>the one singular complaint is you need STEAM… to use a STEAM controller k?
reviewers also said the plastic feels cheap
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I've seen some complain about the lack of AA batteries
I just want a PS5 controller that isn't $250 like HEXGAMING or needs an adapter like 8BitDo.
>>737937950NO NINTENDO NO BUY
>>737938027>or needs an adapter like 8BitDoIsn't the adapter only for 2.4GHz? Do any controllers support than on PC without a reciever?
>>737938012>AA batteries>in 2026lol
>>737938012Thank fuck Valve didn't listen to retards.
>>737937950Why would I need a trackpad when I have a mouse and keyboard?
>>737937991all plastic is cheap
>>737938591Because it's designed so that you don't have to pull them up?It's a complete experience
>>737937991They said that about og too, and they aged just fine, so that's probably bs.Plus "feeling" cheap is subjective and unsubstantiated, i can say that about literally everything.>>737938591I mean it good luck using a mouse and keyboard when moving around, on a couch, in weird places, or whatever.Its all the precision and control of a mouse in convenience of a controller.Pad can also have toooons Of bindings
>>737938591They're there so you can play games you'd normally need a mouse and keyboard for on a controller. This shouldn't be a difficult concept to understand.
>>737938951the OG steam controller does feel cheap, it uses a cheaper plastic
>>737937950>DRM is good when steam does it
>>737939001>Cheaper plastic Is there a SINGLE objective quantifier for this? I've dropped, tossed, spilled shit one mine, it never dented, chipped, cracked or stained.Give me literally ANY EVIDENCE this cheapness isn't just shills saying "feels cheap" with no real justification
>>737937991Are these reviewers in the room with us right now?
>>737939895it's what linus says
>>737937950FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>737939684if you're worried about drm you would be using linuxotherwise you're a poser
>>737937950is it locked to steam hardware side, or is it just other software not supporting it?
>>737940582Lmao
>>737941401It works on any program you can ad as a non steam game
>>737941401Software
>>737940830May 4th, Gigachad, May 4th.
>>737938951feeling cheap is a very real thing, it's just that we don't have more defined terms for describing the integrity of plastic when handled by hands.go handle a Chinese knock off controller for wii vs a legit out of the box controller from Xbox or Sony and you'll see what I mean
>>737937950My xbox controller would be infinitely more garbage if I was only allowed to use it on the xboxI'm just sayan
>$99 for a Steam Controller is too muchLMAO just stop being poor
>>737941635Its not even poor. I'm poor but i can save up to get something 30% more expensive that's worth a damnPeople saying its too expensive are shills
>>737938951>>737938961Okay so what I meant is that: I have a mouse+keyboard+DualSense (and some other controllers). Games that don't require a mouse is what regular controllers are for. Everything else is K+M. So Steam Controller is pointless >Inb4 but remote PC players They basically don't exist
>>737941635It is a bit pricey for me (I don't earn in usd) but I always complain that it'd be better to buy something more expensive that will serve for years instead of cheap shit. Repairability is also a huge factor.So maybe I'll put my money where my mouth is for once.
Where the fuck is this "doesn't work without steam" even coming from because I'm not seeing much reason why it wouldn't. I mean it has been supported in sdl3 since last fucking year.
>>737941958Yes, except if you want to play from the couch, you MUST switch to a library that isn't overwhelmed by shitty controller bs. Sims? Probably not. Game with writing? Probably not. Anything heavily mouse Centric? No.You MUST sit at your desk and use keyboard and mouse.If you can't bring a keyboard and mouse there, too bad, controller only games.Sc fixes that.
>>737942139Xinput on windows. That's it. The controller doesn't support xinput, which doesn't support half the features of the controller to begin with
>>737940582Reviewers, not cock sucking cucknadians
>>737942490Still never quantified why he thought it was cheap either. Iirc he said the same on og because it was "light" which is stupid. Better throw metal Inside to make it heavier lol. Heavy = quality right???
>>737941958>So Steam Controller is pointless It's there for the Steam Machine where you can try to play some PC games on the couch w/o mouse and keyboard.For the majority of gamers, the Steam Controller isn't worth it because like you said, for anything that would benefit from the track pads then mouse and keyboard is better. For anything that is better with a controller, a basic controller will work just as well because that game will have been made for one of the basic bitch console controllers in mind.
>>737937950Trackpad typing is still kinda retarded t. steam deckAnd I'm sure it'll be developed/discovered later but using it outside of steam would be great
>>737943043You can use it on desktop.And sure, its not keyboard level, but its MILES better than joystick typing. >>737943023Reminder, its sometimes a pain to lug around a keyboard and mouse, and possibly flat surface for it. I could us SC while upside down on a couch if i want.
>>737942585He said the plastic texture didn't feel as premium compared to other controllers. I think SkillUp's review said something similar when it compared it against his xbox pad
>>737943290This isn't quantifiable. "Feel" is subjective. Is the plastic mushy? Is it easily scratched? What can you point to ?I didn't think sc felt cheap at all
>>737943524>"Feel" is subjectivewell duh
>>737943187>Reminder, its sometimes a pain to lug around a keyboard and mouse, and possibly flat surface for it.If I'm playing a PC game, I'm doing it at my PC. I'm not taking it to a hotel, if I wanted to do that I'd use a laptop or Steam Deck. I have 0 interest in playing PC games on my couch/bed with this controller, I don't want to give up my extra monitors when I'm playing games and if I wanted to lazily game in bed or something then I'd rather use the deck. Even on the couch, I'd probably rather use the Deck if I'm being honest.This controller isn't for me and that's fine. It's probably not for a lot of people.
>>737937950>The one singular complaintThey should've also re-released more polished versions of both the OG Steam controller and the prototype without the stick.>>737943619The Steam Frame will also let you move around without giving up extra monitors and will probably fill the Deck's niche just as well.
>>737943563But that's what I'm saying.In sc one case it was because it was far lighter, and smooth plastic .. this is textured plastic and heavier so what is even the complaint??Kinda pisses me off because I expect linus to be more eloquent and definitive in his speech, but he just gives a generic "feels cheap bro".Reminds me of having a shit boss who said I had to "do a job more better" but couldn't make a single example of what I was doing wrong.
>>737943774How would you articulate when one plastic device feels cheaper in the hands than another?
>>737938081The old steam controller had them, and it's a uber feature.
>>737937950you dont even need to do that. you just need to not be retarded if you use windows, because microsoft gimps the usb controller driver for xinput.
>>737937950>I dont need an XBOX... to use an XBOX controller>I dont need a PLAYSTATION... to use a PLAYSTATION controller>but I suddenly need STEAM... to use a STEAM controllerk!
>>737942139>sdl3There are no games that support your shit.
>>737943738>The Steam Frame will also let you move around without giving up extra monitors and will probably fill the Deck's niche just as well.Yeah, I've got my eye on the Frame for that reason. I like that Valve is pushing ARM support for it as well, that's a massive win for the industry.
>>737943864Depends HOW its cheap? Excessive give? Squishy? Gummy? Oily? Soft? Scratch prone? Ductile or brittle? Like ffs he reviews tech for a living, can't phrase it ANY Better???Anything else I could define cheap better, like a cheap knife is loose, wobbly, a cheap usb is flimsy, thin, maybe oily plastic, a cheap food has chemical taste, dull aged flavor, fillers...ect. this isn't hard
>>737944394You've never held something that has a cheap feel (texture) before? I'm not sure how to even describe it myself, but I can feel it
>>737937950you don't need nintendo to use a nintendo controller on pcyou don't need xbox to use an xbox controller on pcyou don't need playstation to use a playstation controller on pc
>>737944576but you do need a ps5 controller to use a ps5. you need an xbox controller to use a xbox. you need a switch controller to use a switch. but if you’re being a dick, you can use your steam controller without steam, you just need scsi to reprogram lizard mode
>you need STEAM… to use a STEAM controller except on linux where it just werkz
>>737937950Its for the steam machine and just happens to work on windows. Do people whine that the dualshock only works on playstation or the switch pro controller is locked to the switch?
>>737945369>Do people whine that the dualshock only works on playstation or the switch pro controller is locked to the switch?dualshock and switch pro controller work on pc without any third-party software, steam controller doesn't work on pc without third-party software.
>>737945369>Do people whine that the dualshock only works on playstation or the switch pro controller is locked to the switch?Its funnier than that. Those all work on steam BECAUSE OF steam. Basically they are mad because steam made everything work on steam, but that other stuff won't make a steam product work for them, and blame steam.Might as well complain about police you encountered in California, to the new york courts rofl.
>>737937950The only game I can think of using this for is Vintage Story, and that's not on steam... Might have to pass on this one bros. I'll get a gamesaars version when they make a clone of it
>>737938591Why would you need gamepad when you have mouse and keyboard though?
>>737945545>dualshock and switch pro controller work on pc without any third-party softwarewhat? the dualshock requires either steam or ds4windows and the switch controllers require betterjoy or steam. Its exactly the fucking same and actually the best solution is steam. You have valve to thank for standardising PC compatibility for these exclusive pads.
It's funny, because people always say that Steam hardware users are experienced PC users, but what kind of clueless retarded normalfag thinks DirectInput is exclusive to Steam? Lol.
>>737938591MKB gaming with 80% of game genres is like driving a car with a flight stick.
>>737946282Flight stick, or steering on meth And crack while sick with tetanus (jerky because wasd) combining joystick with mouse input is so fucking nice.
>>737945998>the dualshock requires either steam or ds4windowsThe DualShock is plug-and-play. I've always used the DualShock 4 on my PC without needing any software, because Windows recognized it as a DirectInput controller. The problem only arises when you start playing games that use the XInput standard, which, for some reason I don't understand and don't want to understand, doesn't support standard DirectInput controllers, which have been around since the industry's inception.It's exactly the same with the Steam Controller.I don't know about Switch controllers, but I have a Hori one made for the Nintendo Switch and it's the same thing. I can use it normally in various games, emulators, etc., without having to install anything and without having to run Steam.Steam helps because it takes whatever input your controller has and makes it work in any game.
>>737941491I've heard of course. I was there on monday at 10 am PT when they announced it. Not going to just let this slip past me after everything.
>>737945750Does vintage story have controller support? I never bothered to look but I was thinking about trying it out with the gyro for knapping and other voxel stuff
>>737941401It's not locked to anything in any way. It's just that there's no other software support yet since it isn't even out.
>>737946383My switch pro controller was unusable on PC till steam handled it and I forget why but I had to install ds4windows to fix problems with my dualshock 4. The chinese pads usually have Xinput support. Until valve solved this issue it was a pain in the ass to get your controllers to play nice with all your games or to even function.The point is, steam created the best solution to this issue and its no different from any official non xbox console pad.
>>737943960>but I suddenly need STEAM... to use a STEAM controllerExcept you don't.
>>737939895no theyre on youtube
>>737945750>>737946786I looked it up, it doesn't have controller support at all
>>737937950I agree it's a retarded complaint, but at the same time it wouldn't hurt them to make Steam Input a separate (ideally open-source) app.
>>737946374Saw the word "nice" and mistook it for "niece" and got a slight chub. Thanks bro.
>>737947814drivers are in the linux kernel, if you're still a wintoddler at this point, you're choosing suffering on purpose
>>737947814just use a real pc (linux)
>>737937991IT'S OVER
>>737937950>A controller being locked behind drm software is good because....IT JUST IS OKAY?!
>>737939764No plasticologist, but you can usually tell by the feel. your mcdonalds toy and a quality mouse dont feel the same.
>meta hardware exclusive = BAD>steam hardware exclusive = GOOD
>>737937950No. The one complaint is the main input, the trackpads are in the most unergonomic position ever. Actually there's a second complaint too, of doesn't have dual stage triggers.
>>737948554You don't even need steam to use it.
>>737938961>They're there so you can play games you'd normally need a mouse and keyboard for on a controllerA trackpad is a shitty substitute for a mouse, and how does a trackpad replace the need for a keyboard?
>>737938591this
>>737937950>you need STEAM… to use a STEAM controllerwerks on my machine
>>737937950>Buy a controller to use on your PC>Can't actually use it on your PC except on one particular piece of software
>>737937995K
>>737938591they should make a version without that, for weight reduction, and put two of the four extra bumpers by r1/r2
>>737948963you dishonest fuck, the one particular piece of software is the piece of software you'd have open and using to run all of your games at all times if you weren't a mouth breathing, low IQ, gigaretardomg I can't believe how stupid you are
>>737949096>The only way to run a game on PC is through steamRetard.
>>737944670you are missing the point man.
>>737949096There are ways to play games other than Steam. Keep sucking Gabe's cock.
>>737949134>>737949175>The only way to run a game on PC is through steamBecause it fucking is?! How is that hard to understand? PC is and always has been about convenience, having a single place where you can have all your game library with easy access to each and every single title, Steam even encourages this by allowing you to add all your non-steam games to your libraryIf you're not running your PC games on steam then I don't know what to tell you, it legit makes me worried about society knowing that I'm sharing it with low iq retards like you who cannot even comprehend concepts that even a 4 year old toddler can, I literally cannot overstate how dumb you are
>>737949139the point being a controller should work on pc? it does natively work on pc. in linux. as in real computers. on windows? just use scsi. you’re such a smart nerd who only games on pc and doesn’t use steam for some reason. (You) can figure out how to install and use a simple software tool >8bitdo controllers require software to work on pc >dualsense controllers need drivers to work on pc
>>737949391Except it isn't retard. One of the biggest use cases for a PC game controller is to play emulators with.
>>737949460I use my steam controller all the time for emulators?
>>737937950Wait, you can't use this in non-Steam games? Or do you just mean you need Steam installed in general?
>>737949460OK but this isn't marketed as a "PC game controller" is it?
>>737949460You can add your fucking emulator games on Steam YOU DUMB FUCKPlease don't tell me that you don't have the capacity to click "add non-steam game" on your library page? Please don't tell me that YOU'RE THIS DUMBValve encourages you to do this, it's for your convenience, literal kids understand this and yet you're trying to make a problem out of nothing, holy shit mother of all retardation, you're a lost cause and you're a detriment to humanity at large
>>737949502>I use a controller that isn't even available to buy yet all the timeSure thing bullshitter.
>>737949438I use steam and xbox/xbox gaming on pc.. if this won't work for even xbox gaming on PC out of the box I'm out. besides it looks heavy af, and the pads are gay
>>737949582The question was complaints with the controller. It being steam only is a complaint. I can use a fucking PlayStation controller on PC to do these things never mind one that's made for PC to begin with.
>>737949615there is a steam controller out already
>>737949597Or I could just buy a controller that doesn't have this stupid requirement.
>>737949710And this thread is not about that.
>>737941635poor 3rd worlder herethat shit isn't even that expensive eitheryou can totally tell its Timmy seething that no one wants to use his ass of a store
>>737949685>oh no I bought the "STEAM" controller for winblows how could steam do this to meyeah it works on real operating systems bro, sorry you're retarded
>>737949615I’ve owned my steam controller since 2016 though?
>>737949847>Sorry your controller doesn't actually work on the OS where the vast majority of games areOk then I'll buy one that doesn't suck.
>>737938039Good point, it would be a dream for the whole 5 games that use mouse controls on Switch 2
>>737949787I just wish they would sell it here in Brazil, my fault for living in a third world shithole tho
>>737949678then you’re probably better off using an Xbox controller for your Xbox app and Xbox games made to run an os by the guys who make Xbox. the rest of us will use our superior gyro and back buttons on Linux and destroy you in tactical slayer(swat) on halo, mcc or infinite take your pick
>>737937950>drm for a controllergrim
>people here are seriously falling for the EbinStore shills
>>737948786>A trackpad is a shitty substitute for a mouseOn a laptop? Sure. On a controller designed around it? No.>how does a trackpad replace the need for a keyboard?Touch menus.
>>737949910>the OS where the vast majority of games areYou mean Linux? Because it does.
>>737950257Badly or not at all. Linux is an OS for people who like having to fix their broken computer every other day.
>>737949910>Sorry your controller doesn't actually work on the OS where the vast majority of games areThe vast majority of games work on linux, thoughbeit
>>737950296>Badly or not at allSource? Can you back up your claim that linux doesn't support "the vast majority of games"?
>>737950348Source is falling for the "Winblows is shit Linux is so much better" shills a few times and then actually installing and using it until I get tired of its bullshit and go back to Windows.
Steamos is the best part about it, only wincucks/jeets are complaining
My biggest concern are trackpads.Won't I accidently touch them while using sticks with my thumbs? Feel like parts of my hands (not fat btw) would be somewhere around them
>>737950415uh huh
>>737950415works on my machine
>>737950603That's nice for you. Still not falling for your scam again.
>>737950497Better framerates are a minor bonus, winjeet is absolute garbage, it's great that a big corp like valve is making a real pc os
>>737950627no one is scamming youin fact jeet scammers don't even know how to scam linux users, they love boomers on windows though
>>737950497okay now compare a game with kernel level anti cheat
>>737950683>Get told numerous times "Linux is just so much better than windows">Actually try to use it>It sucks donkey dick>uninstall and go back to windows>repeat like 5 times>Here you are once again shilling your shitheap
>>737937950has anyone tried using the trackpads to play a game on the steam deck? it feels terrible compared to a mouse and keyboard, or am i just retarded and need to change some settings?
>>737937950Let's see: touchpads are still and always will be a gimmick>shitty d-pad>shitty analogs>muh ergonomicsNah it's still shitI stick with my wolverine razer pro or whatever the fuck the tournament edition wasI got it on sale for 99 burger dollars
>>737950752Maybe you should get a console instead zoolutto
>still the king of PC controllers
>>737949049They probably can't because some cunt third party company has patented that layout.
>>737950823Or I'll just use Windows since it just works and ignore the Linux hipsters.
>>737950739>i can install spyware directly into my kernel! how do you feel about that, lintard????i feel pitypretty much every coop game with an anticheat allows linux usersyou're a second class citizen in those as a wincuckyou have a monopoly on the timewasting mmr grind genre and you're ignoring the aposematism of requiring kernel level spyware to do it, you think it's a positive
>>737937950yeah this shit is a BUST
>>737940582>linusI laughed.
>>737950918>N-No! Those games are bad anyway! I'm not missing anything!
>>737950752failed the iq check award
>>737937950>>737949438>>737949678Reddit has you covered, the controller will work with steam not running
>>737950837Lol microjeet coping hard
>>737951031>I use Linux by the way, you've probably never heard of it>It makes me better than you plebsInsufferable hipster faggotry.
>>737950839there are a bunch of gamepads with this layout
>>737949049https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Raiju-Pro-Wireless-Controller-5/dp/B0FNDGHM92basically thistoo bad its stupid pricey loli just use a gamesaar tarantula pro which is a modernized dualshock but the razer slopper gets full steam input support which is a neat idea
>>737950861>>737951106You lost winjeet, the only people who will. be left using your slop are retarded zoomoids and boomers who own nothing and are poor (unhappy)
>>737939001it feels fineits right next to me on my desk alongside the one other gamepad I use
>>737951240Go back to trying to work out why your shit doesn't work unemployed linux hipster.
>>737951024are you seriously so mentally damaged that you consider playing fortnite or apex legends or valorant or any other soulless zoomerslop? name one fucking game you can't play on linux that you think anyone's missing out on and show how shit your taste really is
>>737937950Do you need an xbox to use an xbox controller? A gamesaar to use a gamesir controller? An 8-bit console to use an 8bitdo?No? Oh my, guess your point is moot then.
>>737951106you use an operating system headed by a jeet and who employs 18k jeets and has plans for complete self destruction through the trifecta of jeets using ai to replace everything with rust codeyou are worse than me
>>737951289Saar I am employings with brahman desi friendly company earning cowdungs
>>737951432I use an OS that works without having to spend my evenings staring at a command prompt.
>>737937950Does it need Steam to function at all or just needs Steam for trackpads/whatever because Xinput is a cancer that still hasn't been excised?
>>737951365unironically, yes. you need a ps5 controller to play ps5. an xbox controller to play xbox. a switch controller to play switch. even 8bitdo does not make a universal controller that plays all consoles. the steam controller does work natively on pc; on linux. sounds like you’re using the wrong os for gaming nowadays
>>737951485>i suck cock for a living because it's easier than being employed
>>737937950I for one am glad people think it's shit, it means I can actually order one
>>737951485you’re describing linux in 2008. the rest of us in 2026 are using steamos or bazzite or cachy
>>737951614>Just use an OS that doesn't run any professional software nor games natively because otherwise some hipster will moan at youAbout about no faggot
>>737938591That's the novelty. People keep trying to justify it, but you don't have to justify it. Some people just want a controller capable of performing a wide variety of functions as a PC peripheral. Filling that niche is precisely why it gets so much praise from enthusiasts. It's not for everyone, and that's what makes people so mad.
can it be used as a generic bluetooth gamepad without the puck?with like a pc or switch
>>737951678nigga can't even write four words without fucking it up, no wonder he's a wintoddler
>>737951579I see reading isn't your forte.
>>737937950WaitThat means if I pirate a game or get a non steam game I won't be able to use this controller for that game because it works through steam and not natively through windows?
>>737951884Nor is a word ESL.
>>737951678>if i can't completely free myself then i might as well become goycattle full time instead of minimising it
>>737951908Yes
>>737952045>Moaning faggot still trying to shill his dogshit OS for unemployed hipsters (who are the ones who have the time to sit fixing it all the time)
>>737951908You should be able to by adding it as a non steam game but this step shouldn't be necessary in the first place.
>>737951908no, it means you have to install extra shit because valve doesn't want to taint their controllers with the garbage that is xinput
>>737952046Well now we know
>>737952116>literally the exact same logic that a consolecuck would spit out at youjust admit you're too stupid for linux
>>737951914jesus christ you're dumb
>>737952178>Having to spend more time fixing my shit than doing anything productive makes me smart actually
>>737952226yes, that's in fact the logic midwits use to justify consoles, you don't have to repeat it
>>737952287>He says as he tweaks his nipples and moans like the preening faggot he is
>>737952129Why not use GameInput?
>>737952116nigga is whining that people dont want to cater to his cattle OS which works best with the goypad made by goysoft
>>737952441You mean like how nobody makes anything for Linux?
>>737952334>you're a faggot for caring about your experience more than meyou're goycattle and proud of it lmao
>>737952485Valve made their gamepad for Linux, it works natively out of the box there!
>>737952485except the controller you're seething about, right Rajesh?
>>737952516>Your experience:>Nothing works and fixing it means battling an arcane command prompt or trying your luck asking one of the linux hispters who will just touch themselves at how smart they think they are rather than help
>>737952485and things work better there than "natively" on windows, curious huh? >>737950497
>>737952612alright, what distro did you use and when?you speak extremely authoritatively about linux for a retard that didn't mention his credentials
>>737937950i have a steam deck and the dpad is shitalso the buttons squeak and rattle which is a little annoying
>>737952687Red hat and Ubuntu I think it was.
>>737939895come on anon, be serious
>>737952612>an arcane command promptnigga is a "computers are racist" kind of guy
>>737937950god forbid you use the TOUCHPAD controller to play vita and ds and playstation games. just have 200 peripirchals and own a landfill of ewaste including a $100 controller with DRM
>>737952720>I thinkso what, 10 years ago?and you think you get to talk about your experience and compare yourself to actual users?
>>737937950You don't even need steam, reviewer are just dumdums and didn't activate xinput mode.
>>737952906I've tried it a few times over the years. Last time would probably be around then but as I said before I've heard your "it's so much better now" spiel before and it still sucked so no I'm not going to keep falling for it.
>>737941553The difference is my OG steam controller still works after a decade, while I had two ps5 controllers drift so hard they've gone to brasil
>>737953051stop dropping your controller and covering it with cheetos dust dumdum
>>737937991Did they want fine corinthian leather?
>>737953051If you are trying to use them on PC it might be a software issue rather than hardware causing the drift. Try recalibrating them.
>>737952987yes, please continue telling me about what it's like to use linux when you haven't seen it in 10 yearsthis is like boomers talking about firm handshakes, completely fucking clueless and full of yourself
>>737953273If you like it them ok but I don't want to hear your shilling.
>>737953326>linux is bad, source me, 10 years agoyou don't deserve an opinion on this, shut the fuck upno one is making you reply except your retarded contrarian impulse, get a hold of it
>>737953427>Linux faggot interjects into thread with "Use linux or ur dumb" *tweaks nipples* when literally nobody asked episode #28762178623178621
>Need SteamThat's not even accurate. Linux has built in SDL support for it that was mined months ago due to kernel module updates. I imagine after launch there will be Windows drivers one way or another, even if it takes valve or some autist to make some FOSS alternative because MS is too stupid to just make the thing GameInput compatible. Hell, if you can make use of the actual Steam Deck itself as a controller in several ways without having to necessarily go through Steam, then the Controller should be fine>>737942437XInput was a great thing during the fucking Xbox360 era, but its crazy that MS hasn't been going out of their way to release an updated Xbox pad on their new GameInput protocol which was designed a couple years back in order to deal with all the people pointing out how shit XInput was in comparison to the various Nintendo and Sony hardware that also supported gyro, touchpads, and the like. Their lack of update is why no cross platform controller centric games just expect gyro etc availability because all the Xbox (and chinkpads which are emulating it) can't use it properly.
>>737937950>the one singular complaint is you need STEAM… to use a STEAM controllerThat's not a negative, that's a positive
>>737953491those were your replies you fucking idiot, >>737950415>>737950296>>737949910acting like an authority on something you last used 10 YEARS AGOyour opinion matters so little and is so irrelevant to the current state of linux that you should've just said nothingyou don't get to have an opinion, all you have is a kneejerk response to being insultedand in your case the insult definitely hit the mark
>>737943960>I dont need a PLAYSTATION... to use a PLAYSTATION controllerI can see this changing with PS6, kek
>>737953742In reply to typical Linux faggot touching himself over his favourite OS completely unprompted.
>>737953834>why are people insulting me for being casual and low information?maybe if you went to reddit you'd get the circlejerk you desire
>retards seething that a controller that isn't even out yet is only supported by a multi-platform software, and one platform by defaultlolmao
>>737953909>Waaaaah you're not circlejerking over linux you must go to reddit!retard.
>>737953996>WAAAAH WHY ARE YOU CONFRONTING ME ON BEING A RETARD LET ME BE A FOOTSOLDIER FOR MICROJEET IN PEACE
>>737937950>Steam Input makes dozens of third party controllers all "just werk" with full native rebinding, chords, gyro, etc. on Windows, OSX, and Linux>suddenly its bad when the STEAM Controller wants to use STEAMf for these exact same features and wide platform support
>>737953834the thread is about the Steam Controller not working without Steam, which people correctly pointed out is false, since it works natively in Linux
>>737943960>>I dont need a PLAYSTATION... to use a PLAYSTATION controllerniggas forgot they needed ds4windows because Steam does it for them these days lol
>>737954060>He non linux user he not cultist he must go to reddit!
>>737938591Gyro touch shit is the new gimmick. I think they were inspired by dualsense. You can play FPS games loosely like a mouse user with a dualsense because of it. Kinda wished they'd also take the haptic gimmick too but oh well, maybe when Gaben needs a yacht refit
>>737954167>I think they were inspired by dualsense.they had this shit on the original Steam Controller my dude
>>737950823>zooluttoholy fuck dude, go outside.
>>737954235Never looked nor cared desu
>>737954296retard moment
>>737954087>LinuxNobody uses it, brown man.
>>737954095but you are a cultistyou're kneejerk defending microsoft by lashing out at linux despite admitting it's not actually based on reason but some vague memories that you're strawmanning all linux users asthat's an emotional cultist response, you are in fact a footsoldier for microsofteveryone that's shitting on windows has used it in the past yearyou meanwhile are shitting on linux despite your last usage of it predating protonyour opinion is deficient and you don't deserve to talk about linux
>>737954552I'm not the one trying to proselytize you into the cult of Windows faggot.
>>737950837This piece of shit isn't even made for KB&M, glad Xbox is dying.
>>737954632you're desperately trying to fight back against the grassroots linux adoption by citing your faulty memories from 10 years ago like a fucking sleeper agent
>>737954763>Stop pointing out our cultist behaviour! You WILL use Linux or I will call you names!
>>737937950Shan't
>>737937991cheap plastic? they lost my money. should have been made with 2000 BC ancient egyptian ceramic instead.
>>737941635$25 bag of shit.jpegyou can't refute this, and you won't
>>737954831Nobody is asking you to use Linux. Just to stop spreading misinfo. Shit works, simple as.
All the seething jeetoids are coping because microslop is gonna do a mass layoff once steamos takes off lel
>>737954831>stop encouraging everyone to use the wheel you cultist, you're supposed to drag everything across the ground because i once tried to carve a stone into a wheel bare handed and it didn't work
>>737955045>you're desperately trying to fight back against the grassroots linux adoption>Framing it as some sort of "movement" with members>Missionaries like yourself and other linuxfag who go out and call people heathens until they convert to your religion
>>737955160>Framing it as some sort of "movement" with membersthat's in fact what it is now
>>737955160(You) do realize most computers in the world run on Linux, yes? What you’re erroneously discussing is the adoption of Linux as a consumer desktop os and gaming platform
>>737955380So a cult then.
>>737955407Microslop is a jeetoid cult that throws poo around
>>737955407if anyone belongs to a cult here, it's youthe opinion on windows has shifted drastically and yet you're here being a contrarian desperately trying to damage control for microsoftyou're seething about linux completely unprompted when faced with the grassroots movement because of a blurry memory that might as well have been implanted by the cult brainwashing given how old it is
>>737955614>Multiple faggots do exactly what accused of right after pointing it outlmao
>>737955991>Sar reddeming hijra linux or be considered racist for not supporting desi product
>>737956048>You had better convert to my religion of I will call you a Hindu!
>>737955991you're a fucking sleeper agent triggered by someone praising linuxyou don't get to talk
>>737956187>A wild schizo appears hearing voices in the walls
>>737937950I have many more complaints than having to use steam.No dual stage triggers? Locking triggers? No aux port? Shitty rubber dome buttons? Only symmetrical stick layout? No stand? It's easy to take apart so maybe there will be some sort of modding community to fix the hardware issues. Since I started using my cyclone 2 I stopped using my original steam controller because the plastic and buttons feel so cheap, it seems the new controller has a similar cheap feel. And costs double my cyclone 2.
>>737937950Thumb kissing
>>737956227no one told you to melt down in response to someone shitting on windows but you didyou don't get to have this level of confidence and act like an expert while you're a fucking midwit moron pulling out decade old shit from your dementia riddled brainhumble yourself faggot, everyone who's shitting on you knows windows better than you do linux
>>737956123>>737956227>sar insulting not desi friendly product
>>737956387>REEEE HE INSULTED OUR HOLY OS! GET THAT BALSPHEMING HEATHEN!
>>737954065Third party controllers work mostly because they pretend to be Xbox 360 controllers.
>>737942437The poor and the jeets complaining about xinput has been hilarious to watch. They're literally calling Valve out for encouraging a walled ecosystem because the controller doesn't support Microsofts software for their own walled ecosystem. Xinput has licensing anchors tied to it.
>>737956463>I CAME TO A DISCUSSION BOARD AND I'M GETTING PUSHBACK FOR BEING A LOW INFORMATION OVERCONFIDENT RETARD HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO MEEEEEEEEEE
>>737956736>Say something bad about linux>10 cultists appear from the woodwork to try to burn you at the stake
>>737956778>why do saars persecute me so
>>737956778>say something retarded and outdated while being confident and confrontational>people call me a retard and shit on medo you know what nuance is? you should've put in a disclaimer saying you don't know what modern linux even is to severely downplay the value of your opinion from the get go
gigantic fucking touchpads useful only as worse versions of a mouse or macropad is mine.I know they're quinfuckingtupling down on touchpads as the future but man I just won't buy anything after the deck if they keep shoving them in instead of making it an optional model. It's so shitty and useless in 99% of scenarios to me. I will NEVER be doing ANYTHING involving gaming that requires mouse movements without a mouse at hand except in very extreme scenarios, in which case I probably can just play something else.
>>737956891>NO STOP IT ONLY GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR LINUX!>SHUT UP HEATHEN YOU ARE BROWN AND WRONG OUR HOLY DOCUMENTATION IS THE ONE TRUTH>WE ARE THE FUTURE, THE ONE TRUE WAY, LOONIX OR DEATH!
>>737957016imagine arriving at this meltdown when you could've just admitted you haven't used linux in the last 10 yearsyou're desperate for people to value your opinion despite it having as much of a kernel of truth as my shit after eating corn
>>737957002Touchpads are great for hotkeys, especially for emulation.
>>737957208macropad
>>737957150>OUR CULT IS REFORMED! THE LIAR EXPELLED AND OUR SCRIPTURE REDEEMED!>NOW NOTHING SHALL STAND IN THE WAY OF THE LIGHT OF OUR TRUTH>THE EVIL MICROSOFT'S DAYS ARE NUMBERED FOR OUR RANKS SHELL WITH NEWLY CONVERTED BLOOD!>HAIL LINUS! GLORY TO THE PENGUIN AND THE ONE TRUE WAY!
>>737957208Isn't that what the whole suite of back buttons is for?
>>737950483>Won't I accidently touch them while using sticks with my thumbs?No. This isn't an issue on the 'eck.
>>737956891>modern linuxWhat's particularly modern about Linux apart from Systemd age verification?
What the FUCK is going on ITT?It’s a fucking controller. If you like its layout and features and don’t mind using Steam: buy it. If you don’t: buy something else.
>>737950483it was fine on the steam deck
>>737957331I think of back buttons as something I would actually use in games
>>737957536for... what?no emulated game has placement for them naturally, maybe the n64 I guess. Or like setting pressure sensitive options for ps2 I guess (for all like 6 games that use the pressure sensitivity)
>>737957432you think you're being clever?linux will be the only platform that will be able to dodge age verification at all>>737957290stop projecting, jeets literally pray to get employed at microsofthttps://youtu.be/hdWGS5NGky8
>>737950483It could be they have some sort of palm rejection, which can in theory become unusable if done wrong, like when laptops outright turn off the touchpad for several seconds if you type on keyboard.
>>737957595okay sure, copy fail and your entire linux device is pwned
>>737957584Specific case to case titles. In DMC games you can use them to more ergonomically switch styles instead of clawing on the d-pad
>>737957652idk what level of eslbabble failure this is but you're delusional if other platforms will let you bypass itthe entire reason the conversation centers on linux age verification is because that's the only platform that can have that conversation
>>737957720I've never had an issue with clawing, I just can't fathom all these "cool ways" to use this shit, it really just seems like extra useless hardware (in fact, much like back buttons which I'd only use for emu for like ffw or quicksave/load. Maybe I am the old man, now.
>>737957782>stupid nigger retard doesn't know anything about the 0day that's less than 1kb and owns every single linux distro since 2017yeah okay faggot, catch up with me when your OS can't get owned by a fucking python script. cope harder.
>>737957875oh thatphysical access required lmaoyou really are illiterate if you think physical access exploits matter at all
>>737957928holy shit you're actually retarded
>>737941635
>>737957814Playing emulated games on Deck is comfy, because you can do pretty much anything you want without keyboard, pausing or hotkey combinations, which I always forget on regular pad.
>>737957984>oh no someone can execute some weird code if they get physical access as opposed to literally just taking the fucking device
>>737941635valvefags are the new applefagsnothing but brainless cattle born to be exploited
>>737937950>it's okay for Nintendo to lock Switch 2 controllers to their system>it's okay for them to charge $90-100 for them>but it's not okay for Valve to do the same while offering way more features
>>737937950I just wanted to use this to play SNES or PS1 games. Now I can't do that so I'm not buying this shit
>>737944394>Depends HOW its cheap?it costs $100, meanwhile other pro controllers like the dualsense edge cost $200
>>737957990https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7yj7CVBYfo
>>737957990>loses his diamond teeth when he reopens his mouth
>>737959073Just ignore them, Xbots have been having a bad week.
>>737959073its not even locked to steam. microsoft is just fucking retarded. works out of the box on mac and linux and even on windows for any game that doesnt use xinput
>>737938081there is literally no excuse not to have an AA battery slot that can also fit rechargeable battery packs
>>737937950you can fuck off, disingenuous faggotsteam deck is open platform and so should this be
>>737937950So like every other controller then?
>>737941635it's about the price to value ratio. why would i deliberately pay for a worse product?
>>737959959Which just makes it even funnier. The "lockdown" is entirely external to Valve and doesn't even apply to you if you've decided to finally stop being a battered wife.
>>737959171you can. you just have to add the emulator to steam and run it through that.
>>737937991According to reviewers all plastic feels cheap, but it's literally the best material for any toy or gadget.
>>737960806>all plastic feels cheapNot true at all.Yes, there is such a thing as premium plastic
>>737937950>>737941401There's no drivers for it yet because it's not released, which is why you'd need Steam as it includes button mapping and everything. Nintendo Switch Pro controllers also didn't work on PCs until drivers were made.
>>737960880I don't think they ever made Windows drivers for the original Steam Controller, did they?
>>737937991That was obvious just by looking at it. It looks like the type of cheap shit people 3D print in their bedrooms.
This better support the helix
>>737946282>MKB gaming with 80% of game genres is like driving a car with a flight stick.Pretty much the only games that are better with a controller are any kind of driving/flying games. Just about everything else is vastly better with KB+M.
>>737960981I assumed they did considering how many of them they've sold when they dropped the price to a few $. I never heard people complain about the lack of drivers despite Windows having a 95% Steam market share back then. But I honestly have no idea. I never bought one and even if I did I haven't used Windows since 2017.
>>737961242Well I definitely complained.I doubt most of the people who bought a Steam Controller used it much. It wasn't a very popular controller, otherwise they would've kept manufacturing them instead of trying to empty their warehouse of unsold stock.
>>737937950if you are gonna buy cheap plastic buy cheap cheap plastic lol
>>737937950After using the deck extensively I feel like any PC controller needs a better default scroll method and middle click, they should steal sakurai's idea and put it on one of the shoulders, if you can make pressing it not feel like shit you can even replace the shoulders with it.
>>737960806I hate that stupid mentality, its why we have retarded glass backed phones which are heavy and so fragile you have to cover them with a shitty 5 dollar Chinese case anyway. Then any time a piece of tech uses something rubberised for grip it disintegrates, raw plastic is always the best option.
>>737961935They should just make a controller with a scroll wheel.
>>737956481if you want to use all of their features well you don't use them in xinput mode lol
>>737961125>Pretty much the only games that are better with a controller are any kind of driving/flying gamesThird person action games (which is now 80% of all AAA) are better with a pad, 3d platformers are better with a pad, 2d platformers / metroidvanias are better if purely for standardisation of controls and not having to fuck with key binding on every new game. Fighting games are better on a pad purely so you don't need to carry a fucking keyboard like a gay nerd any time you want to play locally, which in most cases will block you because consoles probably don't even support keyboards. Most genres are just better or more convenient for a pad which is the input method they were created for.Besides aiming and for dead genres like RTS I cant think of any reason why you would want to use KBM unless you're a boomer who is scared of analog sticks. If you grew up with pads and don't give a shit about multiplayer its actually also more fun to aim with them too.
>>737937950its too big...
>>737957595>linux will be the only platform that will be able to dodge age verification at allhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954
>>737962501If i had autistic control over the steampad i would make the trackpads swappable and i would replace one of them with linear faders for thruster control and a scroll wheel. Then I would split the entire controller down the middle and turn it into a negcon. Fuck nintendos shitty pad design that killed compatibility with racing games, pads should prioritise controlling all kinds of vehicles.
>>737962987Where's the Switch 2 Pro?
>>737962987it looks so retarded it shouldn't even be touching a dualsense
>>737962802Depends. Most third parties' xinput modes are read as a keyboard+mouse+(x360 or Xbox One) gamepad to fully support the controller's features, but the keyboard+mouse bit isn't implemented for other modes. Mostly doesn't matter if you're using something like Steam Input, but a controller with four extra buttons declaring itself as a DS4 or Switch Pro won't have those extra buttons visible to the software, and lacks analog trigger functionality in the latter case.
>>737961125My dude, any game where you don't have to aim separately from your movement (FPS/3PS) or where you don't have to micro-manage things (strategy) is either the same or waaay better with a controller.Platformers, beat-em ups, fighting games, sports games, shoot-em-ups are all MUCH better with a controller. Visual novels are identical on either control scheme. Card games are mostly the same between KB+M and controllers, but they're usually better with a touch screen than anything else.Basically the only game genres where KB+M is better are RTS games, FPS and 3rd person shooter games. And I guess some older turn based strategy games which either don't implement controller support or have way too many interactive elements to the point of navigating through them being annoying on a controller.
>>737962987It really does look like the atari jaguar controller
>>737951024>he thinks its sour grapes when dual booting Windows and Linux is extremely easy if you aren't a retardkwab
>>737963080you don't have to use a distro that enacts ityou don't have to use systemdmeanwhile you won't be able to bypass whatever apple or microsoft comes up with
>Using a controller for PC gamesWhy?
>>737966639to play gaems
>>737966639Because playing games at your desk kind of sucks compared to sitting somewhere comfy.
>>737966639Something I noticed is people who say this just didnt grow up with consoles and never used them, while almost everyone who prefers pads has also used MKB.
>>737966639Some games are better with a keyboard and mouse, others are better with a controller. Thats one of the kain reasons PC gaming is so much better than consoles, you can play with any control method you want. Even bananas or strips of meat if you want.
>>737937950if that's a fact, that's a non-starter for me, and i say this already having steam on my puter
>>737945750You DON'T buy your games on steam?.You can literally add it to steam as non steam game and it will work dude >>737949729It has this "requirement", because 90% of it is software. Tbh if steam controller DIDN'T have steam input shit, it'd be kinda worthless. Its like complaining a gps device needs to connect to gps data. Kinda the whole point.Maybe after you can mod it and separate the gps data to use offline, but it's literally not even out yet to do this.>>737957471Mass majority are excited. Shills are desperately trying to paint it as unusable trash because scared controller sales will plummet for others
>>737937950Aren't the drivers for it already in the Linux kernel?
>>737967385Shills are desperately trying to prove that steam drm is good.
>>737967917if it's steam drm then why does it have kernel level support on linux?
>>737967917This drm argument will evaporate in 3 months tops, when someone makes a non steam software layer. It already exists for old controller, and updating it is as simple as adding a few extra binds and shit.3 months is Also extremely generous.
>>737967906Yeah
Sounds like this thing is only good if you exclusively use Steam. If it could be used as a generic d-input/mouse hybrid controller, then I'd pick one up in a heartbeat.
>>737969629Many such cases
Facts: true anons wait for pic related instead.
>>737969629I'll never understand why it's so hard for you guys to add non steam games to stream.
>>737970003they want to maintain the illusion that they're big boys, most of this is consolecucks that don't understand how good steam input is
>>737937950How the fuck do you hold it?
>>737970003Why the fuck would I willingly use steam if I don't have to? Steam client is pure shit. I wish heroic would just work with my steam slop. Heroic launches instantly and doesn't have weird bugs where the screen goes solid black or bizarre focus stealing bullshit caused by steam overlay or input.
>>737941958Touchpads have the potential to replace joysticks. They offer greater precision for both movement and looking/aiming. People just need to give them a chance. Maybe not all pc games but any console fps, tps, even platformer can work with touchpads.
>>737970387Like any controller, between your palms???You can literally watch videos of people using it.
>>737960089Literally why?
>>737970532>Steam client is pure shit.Compared to LITERALLY WHAT???Ffs I can buy the "I dont want to connect to servers or rely on steam", but don't act like there's literally any game client in the same fucking LEAGUE as steam.
>>737971039Compared to heroic games launcher?
>>737938591it's not as good as a mouse, but better than a stick.Takes a bit of tuning per-game and general time to get used to
>>737937950I'll buy one in the hopes that it pushes the standard for controllers to have back buttons because that would genuinely be a huge paradigm shift in how action games can be made.
>>737971446Looks like that thing is basically aping steam? Who knows they might include a steam input lile, do they already have something like that?If they do, just fucking wait.
>>737938591I dislike wasd movement, but mouse aiming is better. Games with too many buttons could be remapped with more buttons, e.g. Crimson Desert
>>737972854This is why I love steam input and pads. Joystick movement, pad aiming, best of both worlds.
I ordered this 8bitdo yesterday, I hope it's decent.
>>737969917Thoses are going to be huge, I wonder how heavy they are.
>>737942139there is a handful of retarded pajeets who don't understand drivers or how plug n play works.they will bitch and whine about it, whine about xinput, all with no idea of how controllers these days work and how they are GONNA work in the future regardless of steam>>737942437sorry retard but its time for your favorite chart again!THIS is how your "xinput" actually works :)
>>737972537its working to ape multiple launchers at once and hook into their libraries and online stuff.imagine a guy with a bunch of badges knocking on the door of your games and the online websites and just pretending to be whatever they expect to see, and doing all the regular stuff that needs to be done.
>>737938626no
>>737944394Material density you big retard
>>737970532also, retard.heroic launcher is perfectly capable of getting what it needs to work with a steam controller.you don't need to use the client.you don't need to use steaminput.the basic drivers to connect to the controller are opensource so people can make their own shit.
>>737970991why do the steam frame controllers use batteries then?
>>737974842>touch can determine "material density"nigga its almost certainly fucking ABS plastic.every fucking controller you ever touched is made out of ABS plastic, with a few sections made out of HDPE, which is the high density stuff you are bitching about.
>>737974842Except this wasn't stated . plus from what I'm seeing steam controller 2 is infact heavier so MORE dense...And Don't give me shit about "the plastic is less dense because it flexes", because nobody has said that afaik.
>>737975086probably because housing a cylindrical battery in a long shape to be gripped works better.kind of like how putting a flat battery in a flat shape works better for headphones and stuff like a controller.lots of good models for flat rechargeable batteries.AA battery slot can do rechargable OR disposable, though getting the nicer AA rechargables is a pain because you need to hunt down what brands are currently making their batteries at specific factories with the quality control needed.
>>737974079Also planning on getting one of those. Currently got a cheap Gioteck that utterly sucks.
>>737975334you don't think they can shape a lithium battery how they want? explain the index or vive controllers? go on make some more shit up off the tyop of your head please.
>>737975523>dude just reshape the battery bro!>that like, doesn't cost money, right?valve isn't a battery factory, retard.battery factories are a pain in the ass because some don't do quality control so their rechargable stuff just breaks and falls apart randomly.Its all about the stacking of the internal parts and making sure that the white parts you see are a fixed distance above the darker grey parts.if you fuck that shit up, the battery is gonna break eventually.The supply of NON-dogshit factories that make decent batteries is a LIMITED supply, and its already bought up.the batteries in the VIVE are NO LONGER BEING MADEwhat you can get are 3rd party mystery meat chinese manufacturers.
>>737975523and to make things a bit more clear.ONE battery factory, regardless of quality, might supply PART of a brand, or multiple brands.and that stuff changes around.So you can have a brand you trust and suddenly one of the factories supplying them changes to or changes internally, and now you are getting shit ass quality control supply polluting your batteries across the planet.
>>737937950Enough of this nigger shit. Where is the steam machine?
I'm only sad that I will have to retire my OG steam controller. We've been through some rough times together.
>>737975523to go even further.there is an entire fucking rabbit-hole of battery autism and microdefects in lithium batteries my autism led me to the edge of and neither of us wants to dive down.There is a lot of bullshit out there.there are entire autism COMMUNITIES that just obsess over fucking batteries and getting good worth out of them.
>>737937950you sir are a brand worshiping corpo bootlicking cultist kill yourself fucking retard
>>737938591It's there to look cool, you can't use two trackpads at once.
>>737976964You LITERALLY can use 2 trackpads at once, what are you even saying???>>737976154Og was a fucking trooper
>>737954089You don't and have never needed it.
