https://www.techpowerup.com/348609/denuvo-responds-to-day-zero-drm-hypervisor-crack-were-already-working-on-updated-security-versions
The damage is already done
>>737943858>players will not be compromised>be without internet for two weeks>game stolenlel
>>737943858it would be funny if they've added kernel level driver
>>737943858>oh no people are pirating our game!>lets punish the people who actually buy our game and in no way affect those who pirateI hope every company who uses this shit loses even more sales over this. Especially sega who refuses to remove this malware from even ten year old games that nobody even liked
>>737943858>FitGirl themselfholy fucking liberal
>>737943858>require online check every 2 weeksah so they're going to be doing what Sony tried to implement but then backtracked and gaslit their audience telling them it was just a one time thing, which makes no sense. Seems like there's a universal push for constant online verification. I wonder if Denuvo will make any headway
>>737944231Making the game DRM-free doesn't reduce piracy either though. The only way to lower piracy is the increase the strength of the copy protection so that shit either isn't available to pirate at all or that the cracked version takes so long to get made that most of the sales have already been made.
>>737944474No, retard. Making a game have any insane draconian copy protection that requires to check in makes me not want to buy the game period and its offensive to the customer. The best way to fight piracy is to make a game worth buying in the first place
It's afraid.The aura of invincibility, of being untouchable they enjoyed during 23~25 is gone.
>>737944609The only thing that matters is protecting the product. Nobody gives a shit what you will or wont buy. If we fuck the pirates and poor kids long enough the Company succeeds. The poor kids will fold and buy the game, the pirate will fuck off or fold and all you are left with are happy customers who have bought our product. You people think you are smarter than a million dollar video game company.
Techpowerup is a shit troon website.
>>737944690they literally don't know how to respond to hypervisor hence the coping.
>>737944474People who can't pirate your game won't buy your game, they'll just wait or not play at allI wait for massive discounts then buy them from a grey market site, I'll never give these companies any money.
>>737944231Corporations above a certain size start to function like mini-countries.You know how there are policies that are clearly harmful to the population, but a country sticks with them for years (sometimes decades), because there's a whole bureaucratic barrier preventing a president, for example, from simply changing whatever he wants? That's basically what happens in mega-corporations too, with things that harm consumers.These giants like Sega, Namco, and Bethesda all have a series of bureaucratic rules, and opportunists behind things like Denuvo simply offer a solution to help their software fit within those rules.Once a certain level of complexity is reached, it becomes more important for management to follow internal policies than simply to side with the consumer.
>>737944747absolutely fucking retarded take, when everything in the western games industry is collapsing onto itself, no ones buying your horrendous dogshit you fucking faggot.
>>737944609The loss of sales from people willing to vote with their wallet against terrible DRM is less than the loss of sales from widespread day one piracy
>the new solution is not gonna operate on ring -1Thanks for confirming that whatever they are trying to do has zero chance of working. Realistically there is not much Denuvo can do now in the first place.They can play a cat-mouse game with the hypervisor guys trying to block it but Hypervisor can just move around that block again and again.
>>737943858I already have access to all all denuvo games
>>737944861Sure kid, whatever you say. Let me know when it all comes tumbling down.
>>737944795...They just said how they will respond?
>>737944806>a grey market siteYou'd rather support gypsies selling keys bought with stolen credit cards than even consider giving a company like EA any money?If you're gonna steal, then steal. Paying for a stolen product is the stupidest possible option.
Of course they say that. What did you expect them to say? "Oh whoops, how embarassing, we're closing up shop now, so long"?
>>737944932no ones buying your garbage, your 201 playercount games with dei protagonists and tranny infested trash is all doa, you aren't fooling anyone.
>>737944954Yeah, I'll give them more money so they can steal more from AAA companies I only buy indies through steam thoughever
>>737944474The point isn't to minimise piracy the point should be to maximise sales since those are the thing that actually makes you money, minimising piracy is only good insofar as it cannibalizes sales, but if the people that get deferred from sales by DRM are more than the people whose potential sale gets cannibalized by piracy then it's a lossI don't know how many legitimate sales piracy actually cannibalizes, though
>>737944954I'd literally set my money on fire before handing any of it to EA.
>>737944954>You'd rather support gypsies selling keys bought with stolen credit cards than even consider giving a company like EA any money?Yes.
>>737944984Games are selling as well as they ever did. Sorry reality isnt the same as whats going on in your stupid head.
>>737945129completely talking out of your ass the games industry is layoff city with more on the way, the sales of your games have never been worse and you have competing regions like china that and korea that have completely overtaken you, your days are numbered and you can cope however you like but you will have to grapple with the fact that learning to code isn't going to get you a job pretty soon, and with ai on the horizon you are simply going to get removed from the equation all together and good riddance i say.
>>737944954I would pay significant portions of my life savings if it had the chance to destroy AAA gaming
>>737944954>You'd rather support gypsies selling keys bought with stolen credit cards than even consider giving a company like EA any money?pretty much, aye
>>737944981you sound afraid
>>737944609>just trust retards on /v/ over corporate chads well versed in statistics bro
>>737945283Why do you care about their games so much then? Why do you pay some brown to steal a game key for a game made by people you wish were destroyed? Just play something you know you’ll enjoy better, retard.
>>737945261Jesus do you just spout whatever you see from reddit? You have nothing to back up anything you are saying. You will understand this when you grow up, you are a dumb child.
>denuvo working on a rootkitnice
>>737945434
>>737945420It's not enough that I enjoy the games I play (which I do), I want the industry I despise to be destroyed and the people who operate its lives ruined
>>737945486same
I need them to go out of business.
>>737945471Is that a picture of you?
>Cat announces Mice have not won>Cat and Mouse game will continue
>>737943858>HV working as intended>Companies losing trust in Denuvo>Denuvo shills falseflagging tactic (it failed)>Denuvo starts pushing even more aggressive system (You are here)>Legitimate buyers starts complaining>Companies losing trust in Denuvo even more>HV 2.0 bypassing their newest update>Companies abandoning Denuvo altogether>Total Chvd VictorySo far it's all according to plan.
>>737943858>Denuvo gets bypassed on day one>Denuvo sees sony's internet drm>Denuvo:
>>737943858Let me guess, it involves new and creative ways to torture and rape the paying customers?
>>737945601bros just out here pretending games in the west are making money, sucking off denuvo because he's financially vested in this and his life depends on laundering the reputations of this absolutely moronic and self destructive companies that call themselves games developers, you should join the circus my friend.
what good has denovo done? there's been dozens of layoffs during their DRM protection reign so clearly they don't help sales. they are a racket sucking off money from Devs.
>>737944940And how will they respond how will adding drm checks to ALREADY bypassed games change anything? WHAT WILL THAT RESPONSE CHANGE. Its literally just cope.
>>737945840Btw just to add it seems like they're trying to calm down the shareholders rather than thinking of actual countermeasures.
>>737944954People still parrot this retarded shit with le stolen credit cards? Key sites go through thousands of transactions a day if keys would be from stolen credit cards then we would see publishers cracking down on them and we would see insane amount of revoked keys too. Publishers love selling keys because fun fact they DONT pay 30% to Valve or MS when product is activated with a key. They also can sell upfront to vendors with bulk deals of like -20% and they still make 10% more AND they get guaranteed copy sold upfront they dont care if sellers will sell those keys or not they got their money. Its akin to shipping physical copies to vendors who then have to sell these and why retarded fags order a lot of copies upfront due to hype and then those copies land into bargain bins within weeks while publishers got their money already. Its literally that but digitally.
>>737943858too late kek
>>737945789Cry more you retarded bitch, games are doing as well as they ever have, you dont matter and there is not a single person who is smart enough to truly crack denuvo. Go get a new hobby.
>>737946167>real denuvo cracking has never been triedstop the cap fr fr
>"Fix" is to require an online check-in every 2 weeksAnd just like that, every Denuvo game is now on my permanent "do not buy" list.
>>737943858I think this killed the retards saying that Denuvo wasn't being bankrolled by Snoy.
>>737946274What's funny is that it doesn't even affect pirates because the hypervisor was updated to spoof a constant specific date to the games.
>>737946239>triedYeah hows that going
>>737946360next time im in eastern europe i'll have to thank the boys for all the cheap keys, you're not getting a fucking cent faggot.
>>737946274Yeah I suspect they will make token detoriate a lot faster and thats it lol. Now you can generate HWID token and its almost permanent unless you update something like Windows,drivers or hardware. Thats what they will do, im pretty sure.
>Sir, some retards are COMPLETELY gaping their PC's digital anus wide open using Chinese malware which also defeats Denuvo, wat do?uhhhh declare PC is dead and go all-in on to Playstation even though consoles are WAY more dead?
>>737945619i think its more like denuvo has already contributed to the dwindling performance of AAA games industry. it's just yet 1 more layer of stupidity in an already stupid industry that continues to bleed money due to incompetence. if they dropped denuvo and lowered the price by $5, they would probably make more profit. but they won't do that because they're stupid.afaik to this day there is no proof that layering DRM on a game helps make more money. if anything i've always seen denuvo's addition as more motivated by out of touch boomer execs wanting to prevent the poors from getting the game for free. they just think in the simplest terms of "more sales + more price -> more profit" even though that only applies to physical products, not digital ones. it's the same idea that leads to price hikes, even though hiking the price of a digital product that spreads via word of mouth is generally retarded. the phenomenon of lower prices and easier access giving the most profit is well known by companies like valve (the undisputed industry goat) but ultimately ignored by everyone else due to emotional thinking and retardation
>>737946317It will affect. HV is using driver to spoof HWID token. When they will make token timeout every week you will need to patch token within HV bypass every week too. Now Denuvos token is basically permanent unless some HWID values are changed but they will change it so it will detoriate a lot faster like two weeks probably.
>>737943858>pirates unaffected because they already have the games>they will continue to be unaffected and a new crack will be found>meanwhile people buying Denuvo will have even worse performance than they already do nowIt's funny. This is exactly like those 5-10 minutes of warning/copyright reels and movie ads that play at the beginning of a movie for paying customers... but that are completely absent for people who pirated the movie.
>>737946549anon it's already been fixed. I don't know why you don't realize you can just modify the mechanism they use to check the expiration
>>737943858They're gonna need access below hypervisor level. Maybe partner with Intel and AMD for hardware DRM?
>>737946725No one managed to reverse engineer the token. What the actual fuck are you talking about? Only group that managed partially were CODEPUNKS with their Dishonored 2 release back in the day but thats it. Why do you think no one just creates cracks with keygens that would allow people to simply generate their own unique HWID token? Thats why.
>>737946546They aren't stupid. They are instructed to prep games to be rich club only by 2030. Games will continue rising in price until they are 1k without any dlc.
Please tell me, as a customer, why should I support performance-hogging middleware in my games?
>>737947084it doesn't affect performance
>>737947084Because you dont have a choice? Nobody is begging you to buy shit.
>>737943858There's not much they can do about a hypervisor.
>>737944374Holy fucking one-track brain.
>>737947084You shouldn't, let the slop flop.
>>737947165>it doesn't affect performanceRetard
>>737943858>by update we mean fucking our customers even harderWhen people will realise that Denuvo is malware that punishes paying customer for buying the game. All you have to do is just not buy it, its that simple, and denuvo will go away like fart on the wind.
>>737947193HV bypass isnt a real crack and nobody wants to use it. People want a folder of files and an exe. We know that and dont care about it. If there was a crack that just one click worked then hardware based drm is gonna be required. Your precious “cracker” scene knows this as well and wouldnt dare show they can produce cracks because the real war starts at that point. Always remember, fuck around and find out works both ways.
>>737944954If I "steal" that wouldn't cause any impact or damage to the publisher. If I use my money to actively support gray market resellers, which actually steal, that would have an actual impact and cause damage to them, as it would fuel demand for undercutting them. Which is why I use the gray market over pirating when possible for publishers or games that is anti consumer.
>>737943858>updated security denuvo tanks 45% of your game performance instead of just 30%good job lads, proud of you
>>737943858>Group A buys games and support corporations fucking them in the as>Group B pirates and get them for free >The corporation, to deal with the group B, decides to make changes in a way they will hurt group A even more in the ass to try to stop group B from taking their stuff for free>Group A cheers and take it like good cattleThe absolute state of modern NPCs
>>737943858They tried it and were defeated already.Also voices get off your ass and crack code vein 2 already
>>737944954>You'd rather support gypsies selling keys bought with stolen credit cards than even consider giving a company like EA any money?I'd rather burn my money and snort the ashes than giving it to a company like EA
>>737944110yeah. it will be great advertisement. "yo install your very own rootkits to play this ghaym"
>>737944747>The poor kids will fold and buy the gamelol no
>>737947606You better be ok with a HV bypass because your crackers will be fucking up if they can actually do that >>737947475
>>737947475>then hardware based drm is gonna be requiredRight, this tine for sure. Remember when you retards were doomfagging about Pluton?
>>737947689Notice how denuvo is the center of this conversation and the fags are bleeding out their ass about it?
>>737947665>voices cracked RE requiem alreadySave the fearmongering for twittertards dumbass
>>737943858Why do people think denuvo even helps sales?
>>737943858The shareholders are NOT happy about the day 0 cracks.
I dont buy games, why pay when its free
>>737945006I don't understand what's going on in this image. Where are all the gigachads and basedjaks? How am I supposed to know who to sympathise with?
>>737947763What point are you trying to make here?
Piratefags in shambles
>>737947782>old build of the game thats unoptimized and riddled with bugsyeah i dont want to play garbage just to say i played it. I can watch a 4k playthrough on youtube for free.
>>737947626owait--
>>737944940Not much they can do. They could provide tainted bypasses to deter people from downloading them, though. It would take very little to brick a bunch of PCs.
>>737948050Dude i started buying physical games on xbox seres x just to avoid denuvo. Bought time stranger, RE and crimson desert on console.
>>737945006Nice strawman comic, idiot.
>Gabe sez "piracy is a service problem" >time proves him right again and again>Denuvo keeps making the service worse and worse
>>737948124>Doesnt countCool.
The people who developed securom and denuvo didn't just stop existing/get fired. I bet they have multiple unknown DRM solutions that they've been working on for years that are nearly ready to sell to publishers. DRM is a long term cat and mouse game that will never be solved.
>>737948215>crimson desertThat game requires additional download anyways since most of data isnt on disc and thats on both Xbox and PS5. I always check if thats the case nowadays because its pointless buying game then
>>737947031they very much are stupid. and there isn't a conspiracy to try to price gamers out of the hobby, they're just trying to improve their margins in the easiest way possible. microslop tried to increase the price of outer worlds 2, and then immediately backtracked when they realized it was hurting their profits. other companies will periodically try the same because of retarded leadership demanding it. this is due to old age and lead poisoning.the real way to improve profits would be to systematically reduce bloat, reduce scope, improve decision making and get closer back to "6 guys making vidya in a basement". but AAA management can't do that because they'd have to fire themselves. so instead they have to look for other reasons why the companies suck while coasting and squeezing as long as possible before ultimately the company goes belly up
>>737943858I will still not play your game. Not even for free.
Aren't these "check every 2 weeks doe" security measures easier to bypass than most?
>>737948124It's funny how you completely abandoned the premise of your initial post. Like what the fuck are you even doing? Are you stupid? A bot? Literally paid to do this?
>>737948234
>>737948257Ok, then whhhhhhy can we not get an updated version of that game if its so easy to crack?
>>737946274That is already the case with denuvo games.
>>737948394What are these reaction images? And your filenames are off too. You stick out like crazy you don't normally post here.
>>737946549Anon, the game is spoofed into thinking it's the same day over and over. The token will never expire.
>>737948380Im pretending to be retarded just like you. You do know you are on /v/, a 4chan board known for absurd meta humor and contradictions? Are you having trouble keeping up?
>>737944921>not gonna operate on ring -1It might be Ring-2, nowhere does it say it won't go deeper in the kernel.
Why company doesn't sue denuvo when their game get cracked?
>>737948558Because piracy doesn't actually affect sales, they do it to appease their shareholder overlords.
>>737947475voices cracked Requiem with a "real" crack in like two weeks, denuvotranny. HV is just faster than that.
>>737948468I know dude its almost like im someone who knows more than im letting on.
>>737948394Ask the guy who cracked it within a month. He hangs out on reddit too, so Im sure you'll find him easily
>>737943858It's a little scary seeing how popular the HV cracks are.People are really just giving kernel access to their PCs to pirates just because 'they have a rep to protect, they'd never betray you' when that has happened repeatedly in the warez scene a million times.And it's even worse since it'll deterr people from coming up with actual cracks that don't involve running a VM of your OS.
Oh great, another brown-coded thread where the attention-seeking sub-humans take the contrarian role upon themselves to get attention, because outside of their house the neighborhood smells like literal shit. >no, ackchyually getting ass fucked as paying customer is a good thing
>>737948668yeah alot faster for a reason.
>>737948325this anon understandsgames will never go past 100 bucks (minus retarded super duper extra special early dlc extreme editions)
>>737948558They probably settle somehow. If suits sue little timmy for minor copyright issues no way they don't also send a very angry mail to denuvo
>>737948779Just have 2 PCs.
>>737943985>Switch proton versions a couple times>Game stolenIt's not fair tuxbros...
>>737949115At that point just buy all the games
>>737949168Just play supertuxcart until the lock expires
>>737943858The schizo part of my brain thinks this was planned.>"crack" that is so risky as to be undesirable for most people anyway>is used to justify even deeper "always online" drm
Holy shit this thread is a fucking garbage fire. Piratefags need to stop being third world niggers and poors.
>>737949191I don't mean two 6090 + i1390000 pcs. Have a modular gaming PC and a normal cheap PC for general use.
>>737944747>Nobody gives a shit what you will or wont buy.Explains why so many of these studios are closing down and why all these games are flopping.
>>737944474>>737945087>I don't know how many legitimate sales piracy actually cannibalizes, thoughNone. You and companies (yes, the multi million companies too) are RETARDS. Of course a guy that is hired by the company is going to tell them to put DRM everywhere because no one is crazy to get a management job that pays like $300k and then you just tell everyone to remove DRM and let people pirate because it doesn't matter.People pirating is always better than non-buyers, period. The hierarchy goes like this:>whales (people that buy literally everything without thought) >>> buyers > pirates >>> non-buyers (neutral) >>> haters (people that didn't buy and try to get others to not buy)
>>737945087Pal if Manga readers and Nyaa hasn't killed Japanese media, one of the most expensive media hobbies in earth if you are actually paying for all of it btw, it won't affect gayming either.The thing killing gayming is the 9 figure budgets.
Pay game devs what they're worth.
>>737949796a 5 cent piece of paper isnt the same as a 60 dollar game (standard edition)
>>737949420These people cant afford that shit, they are pirating video game for gods sake.
>>737943858The three best selling consoles of all time all had rampant piracy yet still had very good software sales. Piracy is such a non-issue.
>>737945087>I don't know how many legitimate sales piracy actually cannibalizes, thoughAccording to that one EU study, piracy INCREASES vidya sales on average. Piracy is free marketing, it increases word of mouth, and it can convert a pirate to a paying customer if he really likes a game (I did that in the past).
Consumers get fucked again. What else is new?
>>737950294Witcher 3 was explicitly marketed as DRM-free, and it sold like 40 million copies.
>>737949938A single localized tankobon can cost 15 bucks.The average series has well over 10 and noone reads just one series. Anime is also slowly starting to spread to several different services like films and series.And that's the entry level. If you are importing from Japan prepare to get you're ass ripped, and the digital scene is a massive sea of memecoin services to read a third of a chapter at a time, or you have to waddle over several subscriptions to have the different magazines available.Meanwhile a game costs 60ish bucks. That's it.
denuvo deniedstarforce sunksecurom secuGONEgames for windows live....yeah okay that one actually worked
Mandatory viewinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI
>>737950202You can get a shitty laptop that can do everything except heavy gaming for the price of 2 games, or simply build a second PC from the parts you upgrade as I did last time I changed specs.You should naturally have 2 PCs simply by being in the scene for more than 6 years.
I will remind them
What else they should say or do? Ofc they are working in it. Don't know if they are publicly traded or not. But they probably have contract in place of upcoming games. They can't just fold or admit defeat. They would get dragged to court. If they "work on update" and it still gets bypassed in day. That's fine so long contract is rocksolid.
>>737950735Jesus christ retard, the whole point of pirating is to not spend money. If having a throw away PC for Denuvo bypass games is the new normal pirating games is basically dead.
>>737950547Books are a special case, because I pirate them en masse, but only to get a sample, to compare translations, or to have an easy search option. I buy all my actual books physically, so I'll often first pirate a book, and maybe 10 minutes later order a copy online.
>>737944474There is balance of things. Most sales come from first few days. Having drm that blocks piracy for 2 weeks is enough. Anything past that is waste of moneh. Fun fact if you look at most sold video games. Almost all of those were cracked day 1 or first week.
>>737950894>the whole point of pirating is to not spend money on softwareft4u. to my knowledge you cannot pirate a GPU yet.And hey, the 2 pc thing is only if you're paranoid about the bypass being made by very ebil russian hackers who really really want to steal your anime girl reaction folder.
>>737943858it is possible to use hiv bypass on linux without the risk of getting your hardware mogged by russniggers if you're desperate enough
>>737950547>can't view youtube links with ublock onWhat did that garbage company do now?
>>737951423Nothing? Your shit is fucked
>>737946552>This is exactly like those 5-10 minutes of warning/copyright reels and movie ads that play at the beginning of a movie for paying customersJust be late, worst case scenario you miss out the first 5 minutes of a movie that are never relevant
>>737952167Dunno nowadays but last time I went to the cinema, well before the kung flu, they wouldn't let anyone enter after the projector turned on.And it was not 10 minutes either.
>>737951423works on my machine
>>737952292Guess it depends on the country, I'm not even sure what the official rules here are because none of the wagies working at the cinema are paid enough to give a shit. As long as you have the decency to stuff your food and drinks in your pockets and not flaunt them while handing over the tickets they'll let you in. Same with walking into a movie that's already playing, just find someone and ask him to open the door for youThat being said I also haven't been to a movie since Covid
>>737952167I was referring to when you buy a movie. That shit is on the DVD too. My parents would always rent movies and I'd always catch them watching ads and shit. I don't think anyone goes to the movies anymore. Back in my day, it was like $6 for a matinee, now I think shit is like $20 no matter what. Fuck that.
>>737944954I don't give my money to Saudi princes, MAGAt jew cuck.
>>737945006Imagine i like your girlfriend and i could fuck her without you knowing. Would you actually lose anything? Not really.But of course it would be wrong of me, since you rightfully own her.That said, i don't care that it's wrong, so i would fuck her regardless.
>>737952912What if its a copy of your GF that you'll never know about?
>>737943858So once again we can't have nice things because of attention seeking faggots.
>>737953041It would still be wrong to create a copy of someone's girlfriend withour his permission.But the main point is that only idiots care about wrong or right, just do whatever you want.
>>737953173Excellent point sir, +500 jugaad.
>>737943858You can't unrape your butthole, sorry.
>>737945619delusional, they will either stick to denuvo or create worse/go after stupider solutions like that russian bullshit some capcom games now have.
>>737944474>Making the game DRM-free doesn't reduce piracy either though.It actually just increases piracy by making it even easier to pirate games.I used to pirate tons of games when I had little money, and I can tell you for a fact that I would have bought half of those games on day one for full price if Denuvo had existed to cock block me. There would have been zero chance that I was passing up Mass Effect 2, Human Revolution or Black Flag.These days, I have so much money that I buy all the games I play, if they have DRM or not. But I do feel better knowing some poor fag third-worlder was forced to pay for a game he would have otherwise pirated. Especially since their constant whining on the Steam forums about Denuvo is so damn annoying.
>>737944954>You'd rather support gypsies selling keys bought with stolen credit cards than even consider giving a company like EA any money?Yep!
>>737944609lol lmao, any benefit to the legit product benefits pirates too.
>SHARTsumers cry again when they'll buy the next game anywayPay up, piggies. Lol
>>737950294because piracy doesn't effect sales, if people can't pirate something they will just play something else
>>737943858>company announces it won't just stop their business that prints them money
>>737952912yeah this is pretty much how boomer execs think. they dont even care about the money. they just dont want favela dwellers to get something for free, even if it actually boosted their profits thanks to word of mouth and so on
>>737943858
>OMG PEOPLE SUCK WHY WOULD THEY LOCK THEIR HOUSES?!?!?!?>I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT THEY HAD INSIDE!! I MIGHT JUST BUY THE THINGS LATER!!!>THEY SHOULD JUST LEAVE THEIR HOUSES UNLOCKED DONT THEY SE THEY HURT THE NEIGHBORHOOD?!?!?!
>>737943985You cannot afford internet then you cannot afford latest AAA vidya either you false flagging faggot
>>737955752more like if you could make a copy of the house without it having any impact on the original and then going inside
>>737943858Are you telling me that company who does thing is doing thing?! Crazy.
>>737955752Were already at a point where buying doesnt mean ownership then the reverse should be true pirating isnt stealing.
>>737943858>even though we did not find this [DRM software is notorious for causing performance regressions] to necessarily be true in our testing in 2019I hate kikes so fucking much
>>737955931Fuck Japs. Corpohomo cock sucking faggots. They unironically believe you should not be allowed access to media if it's not sold in your country.
>It has been proven that piracy boosts music sales>Same studies for vidya have been memory holedHmmm
>>737943858It will bypassed anyways.At this rate the best option against PC piracy is not to make PC ports at all. And Denuvo will be the most fucked of all them by this decision.
>paying customers will receive an even worse experience while pirates will get superior version with the malware removed
>>737956646To be fair, Music hasn't broken yet into a gorillion different services. From what I understand there is a 99% overlap between them, so it makes sense to pay for it even if you can (and should) download all with 2 keystrokes.Something something service problem.
>>737955931They are right. The average shitskin does not have any purchase power and if you offer them a way to adquire your product they will pirate anyway.
>>737955752>don't put out demos>buy out reviews to the point that they're hardly trustworthy>prices always increase>even purchasing the games = still not owning it>omg people just steal our game now???!?!!??? @FBI @UN @Israel @realdonaldtrump
>>737956870>with the malware removedis this what you think is happening, anon? hypervisor only makes denuvo think you have a license, it doesnt remove nor deactivates denuvo
>>737943858>FitGirl themselfKEK
>>737956952>conveniently forgetting how several game demos recently got used to pirate full gamesEven when they try to be nice, pirates can't resist ruining things.
>>737944474>Making the game DRM-free doesn't reduce piracy either though."SHAW"
>>737957912Ruin what? Your imaginary potential sales? How about thanking them for doing free marketing for you?
Why should anyone give a shit about what pirates think or feel, or if they are inconvenienced? It's utter nonsense. Imagine being told that you're a bad person for fucking shooting someone who is robbing you.
Reminder that just a few gens ago there was even a reluctance to release single player games on PC due to piracy. That's part of the reason why a lot of single player games launched with forced multiplayer modes.
>>737959329OMEGA BASED!!!!!!!!!!!2!!!!!!
>>737959329
>>737959329Literally a child's mindset, so it makes perfect sense as to why you'd throw a tantrum just like one in text form.
>>737959329Based Derpychad.
>>737959329Wonder if they are gonna nuke this one because of GR15 or Porn in blue board...
>we are working on fucking over paying customersgoot keep up the good job slaves
>>737943936can't wait for the next one when all hiv users see their money or cc being stolen lol
>>737944954Yes, fuck EA.
I can't think of anything I wanted to play that had denuvo
>>737959329holy fucking based>>737960296They cancel each other out
>>737945619you forgot the >publishers stop releasing their games for PC at day one because of hv>pc players have to buy a vidya or wait 2-3 years before playing it>total hv/steam death and publisher Victory
>>737960679Based No-Dachi poster.Draconis a shit thoubeit.
>>737960530money?what money?you think i qualify for a cc?
>>737960985anyone can get a credit card nigga
>>737944374that's perfectly correct and normal English you fucking peabrained idiot
If you want me to buy your 70 eurodollar game without any demo to try it out first then i'm going to pirate it first and try it out you jewish pieces of shit!.
>>737961223>plural pronoun used for an """"individual"""""">correct
>>737944474>The only way to lower piracy is the increase the strength of the copy protectionthe only way to lower piracy is to increase the value of having a legitimate copy of the game
>>737944954where do you bootlickers come from?
>>737961692Wow, you might have just posted 1488 while you're at it.
>>737955752>does buying the things guarantee us access to them?>actually, we can take them back at any time, no refunds. Also, we will arrest you if you think of painting them or customizing them, or using them without our permission
>>737961782i mean, it's no different than purchasing bootleg products like purses, shoes or coatsif the only value is the functional product, people will prefer the bootleg, but if there is more value in the legitimate product, that will be the one more desired
>>737961782Sorry anon, the moral high ground on this tibetan underwater knitting imageboard is not worth 80 dollars.
Most likely they are working on a release that will exploit systems using hypervisor.
>>737943858That's an empty air PR statement. The 2 weeks change does nothing to combat hypervisor, only key selling discords. There's always going to be back and forth in this scene but Denuvo is losing on two fronts right now.
>>737962213And why would I install an update to denuvo to begin with?
>>737961991>people will prefer the bootleg,Handbags have intrinsic quality (type of leather, stitching, the metallic fittings etc), they'd have to release physical copies with manuals and posters and figurines like some of the old games had.I dont see publishers doing this, it would eat a lot of money from their beloved marketing budget.
>>737959329based furry
>>737943858I legitfully dont know how Denuvo gonna patch the Hypervisor method. The ONLY way is the make the DRM always online. As long as offline mode exists DenuvOwO gonna able to abuse hypervisor method.
>>737947475>nobody wants to use it.3 out of 5 people already used it
>>737944806The first denuvo game I almost buy was this last week. It had a big discount, I went for it until I saw it had that malware. Never support any company that injects this shit into their games.
>>737962786Nobody wants to use that method other than third worldys. They gotta find someway to gain the trust of the masses on these bypass methods. At this point people actually want to buy the game than install one of these games.
>>737955931Nobody cares about Anime/Manga if Subs/Scanlation didnt exists
>>737962875>source : my ass
>>737963057- The number of Offline activators has down by 70%- Thousands of download on Repacks- Thousands of download of DenuvOwO cracks at rin ru- Hundreds of thousands of view at cs.rin.ru hypervisor crack topic
>>737962926Heh. Hopefully your job sticks. I know how bad the economy nowadays
>>737963043And that's a bad thing. Gatekeeping needs to be upheld or you get uppity foreigners demanding things and bullying creators.
>>737962926Whatever you say Rajeet from MumbaiThe 4chan pass denuvo gave you to shill here is worth more than your yearly income btw ;^)
>>737944474>The only way to lower piracy is the increase the strength of the copy protectionProve it.DRM companies are literally just snake oil salesmen selling publishers placebos.
>>737963210Ive downloaded BMWK before i knew it was just a bypass and deleted it after it finished downloading. Downloads/views dont mean installed
>>737963403>me so dumb i download things without knowing what they werenot helping your argument palalso you better not have posted this from your work pc, or your boss will get angry at (You)
>>737963403Most of the case people who downloaded it are trying it
>>737963535>mostnot helping your case
>>737963783Concession accepted.
>>737963873>no rebutalli accept your concession
>>737956921>They are right because (contradicts their argument)
>>737963873>>737963960I don't accept either, continue fighting.
>>737963783>not helping your caselolwut? He's simply stating the obvious. When people download programs it's typically to use those programs, most people aren't fucking retarded like you.The case you put forward for "downloads don't mean installed" was fucking retarded, you're annocdotal retardion is an absolute fringe case that is statistically irrelevant to the discussion.
>>737963960>Trying too hardI accept your double concession
>>737955931>Japanese companies start cracking down on free translations and western piracy>still don't offer any way to actually purchase their stuff if you're not JapaneseIf you don't offer a product in a market, them taking it for free doesn't hurt you at all.I would gladly pay for a lot of Japanese media if only they would actually let me.
>>7379605302 more weeks
>>737962926Anon, let me get this through your head. Hypervisor sucks because of the vulnerabilities, but ANYTHING is better than denuvo. DRM is objectively bad for everyone but the idiot corporates who profit off of FUD.
>>737943858>noooo, poor people are rising up, shut it downAin't so smug anymore.
>>737948779It's the modern post-covid era, a decade into the newest wave of psyop technology. People undergo mass psychosis and develop schizophrenia. All they feel they need to do is cry "shill/fed/troll/jew/jeet" at anything they personally disagree with, even indisputable facts, and suddenly they're in the right and nothing can ever go wrong. They install malware to their systems so they can pirate games they can't afford, then dismiss any statement describing the dangers they've put themselves into. It makes you wonder how much worse it can get. In your lifetime, you may see a literal representation of a herd of braindead cattlepeople running off a cliff, calling you a glowie shill denuvo agent if you yell out that they're running to their deaths.
>>737948779Pin is 033425Find my bank. Good luck
>>737964994Because for every new piracy method the usual kikes cry wolf and say that it will poz your computer with viruses and backdoors.
>>737944110They have. That can't stop hypervisor. They have to get people to give Denuvo access even deeper, which storefronts can't distribute as that's considered dangerous malware globally.
>>737964994Ironic post.
>>737965109>installing ring-1 malware isn't risky bro
>>737965164Yes, denuvo is bad.Glad we agree.
>>737965164>Crying wolf again
>>737965164RING RING RING RING RING- 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 MAL MAL MAL WARE WARE WARE
>>737965187Theres no way to verify that denuvo bypass is not malicious but to open your computer by disabling all security for a video game is insane to anyone not a tech illiterate child
>>737965164>installing ring-1 malware isn't risky broRunning windows or a riot game is riskier.
>>737965424I been disabling all security 10 years before Hypervisor exists. Do you even know Windows Defender mark cracks as virus ?? Security on windows is just fucking bullshit. Are you unironically enabling UAC ??
>>737944374English is the tranny language
>>737943858>dont worry goy even though our current version makes your game run worse our next version wont >trust us :^)
You people are so weak. So fucking weak
>>737944474It's a silly way to think of it. From my perspective if i don't want a game I'm not going to buy it and if I'm not going to buy it i might pirate it. At the end of the day it doesn't affect their sales at all because if i dont outright buy it then i was never going to and i never will.
>>737959329I never could have expected a ponyfaggot ever being this based.
>>737944747>no one gives a shit what you will or won't buyIsn't that the whole point? If you don't give a shit then i won't buy your game :)
>>737944374You can go fitgirl yourself!
>>737965616>Do you even know Windows Defender mark cracks as virus ?? Security on windows is just fucking bullshit. Are you unironically enabling UAC ??Dev here, it flags tons of shit as viruses, not just cracks, but just regular legitimate game files. Basically anything the useless jeet fucks haven't added to their microshit database is just autoflagged as a virus and nuked. Even when you submit files it can sometimes take months for them to add it, if at all, the you push an update for your game and have to go through the whole process again.It's an endless cycle of bullshit.Not to say there aren't bad cracks and shit out there, but always pirate from a community where there is discussion about a release.
>>737965616>just turn off all securityThis is how i know you are unapologetically ignorant to everything. An adult with actual responsibilities and life would know better.
>>737944806Incredibly based and same. If a company ever put denuvo on their product even if it's been gone for years i will never ever buy it ever. The most you'll get out of me is watching me pay someone else who probably stole from you. Get cucked faggots
>>737965832SIRPLEASE BE RENABLING THE TELEMETRYSIRSIRI BEG OF YOU SIRTHE INFORMATION WE TAKE FROM SCANNING YOUR FILES IS ANONYMIZED SIRHONEST SIRPLEASE BE RENABLING SIR
>>737944954I would sooner throw my money away than give it to ea or blizzard.
>>737944921It's already egregious they are not allowed near my kernel and this just cements that i will never buy any game with this product attached i don't care if it's the 100/10 perfect game i will simply not play it and i don't care. Fomo is for nigs
>>737965987>Pls enable security goy. Its To protect our """""""""""""""KIDS"""""""""""""""""""
Denuvo employees going full force today
>>737944806And then you somehow think you have any right to cry and bitch when nobody caters to your tastes. And moan when your favorite type of game never gets made.
>>737943858It's not going to unfuck the cracked games.
>>737966206>just b-buy every game that comes out so they can make the game you want! There's a high likelyhood that you are both retarded and have a large nose
>>737944609I actually hate how dumb you fucking faggots are. Do you genuinely believe that a game being available for free day one will not impact sales numbers?
>>737965126always online it is, it's a matter of time.
>>737966279I think you're too retarded to understand that it's not our problem nor do we care. If you can't make money off your game without putting completely garbage retardation to 'protect' it then it deserves to flop and i will not buy anything you put out afterwards either
>>737966345I will gladly support DRM as it acts as a gatekeeper against third worlders entering the fanbase
>>737966395Obviously it doesn't considering hv cracks exist
>>737966252If you don't even like the games why are you wasting your time downloading and playing them?
>>737966395idiot anyone that watched it on youtube can enter the fanbase KEK
>>737966279Piracy is good for sales, it's free advertising. Unless your game is shit, of course.
>>737966484Where did i ever even say that i was i dont play or pirate 99.9% of the garbage that comes out
>>737966306>always online it is, it's a matter of time.One of the easiest copy protections to crack. Literally all you have to do is run the legit game, monitor the traffic and then emulate it.It's been tried and cracked a dozen times in the last 20 years which is when they first tried it, if you look up any of the early ubisoft games that had always online DRM you'll find server emulators with them.
>>737966554that easy but for some reason there's still no crack for nfs '15
>>737966554>server emulatorsThats the problem. Those thing cost money and constant maintenance
>>737966438Cope, say bye bye to your precious HV cracks soon>>737966468>WAHHHHHHH MUH POOR DESTITUE SHITSKINS WAHHHHHHHLol. Get a job paco. Btw all these people crying about DRM are ‘tards, all you gotta do is download the game on Steam and play, DRM never interferes with anything unless you believe in schizo conspiracies about performance >>737966502Says who? Women? Trannies? Not real gamers>>737966504>being able to steal something for free is good for salesLol retard
>>737966765Neither are you South American poop skins. We can see right through the charade, might as well just spam “GIBS ME DAT FO FREE” over and over, at least it’s honest
>>737966643The emulators run on your own PC and grab the traffic meant for the game and supply the correct responses. No-one is doing remote hosting of those.
>>737966765Company has been staffed with retards ever since the securom days.
>if I just label everything as something you dislike ie brown, tranny, schizo etc that means you have to support my position or you're x!How low IQ do you have to be to think this actually works to support your position?
>>737967110Your “position” is “give me games without any DRM, I promise it’s not because I want to steal it” like fuck off
>>737966701I don't like "always online" DRM for games I paid for you fucking retarded faggot, if I spent money I want to actually OWN the product, not a license to use it. If that means potentially some turd worlder can pirate a game he can't afford anyway, so be it.
>>737967290No, it's this: >>737967290 you dumb faggot, anyone who supports "buy to rent" is fucking cattle.
>>737943858just adding more garbage for paying customers into games they don't even own kekpirates always win in the end
could "stop killing games" force the EU to stop this?
>>737967409Pirates will have this shit running on their computer too. Or do you think HV bypass actually removes denuvo?
>>737967591Who cares ? Its Free and Offline
>>737943858>acknowledged by FitGirl *themself*lol
>>737967591pirates don't care about that shit tho and they own a copy of the game that doesn't revoke their license after inactivity and doesn't require internet
>>737944474The best way to prevent piracy is to not release the game.Releasing the game inherently brings the risk of piracy. The best way to minimize piracy is to deliver good value for the price, you'll always have Russian and South american piracy unless it's free (And even then they'll try to pirate it) so you can't write them off as "Lost sales", they're never the market that'll buy.
>>737966395>he says, defending DRM made by third worlders
>>737967663>>737967732He called it garbage, so I assume that he cares. But yeah, if the only thing you care about is the price, then it doesn't matter.
>>737943858When will someone use Claude AI to fuck with Denuvo completely out of the water?
DRM will never go away, it exists to protect the early sales which always matter the most.
>>737944474Denuvo is the sole reason I stopped buying games.Meanwhile i've been buying up all sorts of easily piratable indie trash because its just a better value and doesn't give my PC aids and they're just more fun in the long run instead of cinematic slop
>>737943858>yeah let's just force always online DRMlol, lmao even
imagine being a 3rdie piratenigger right now>let miners assrape your pc as you download and install fatfag's repacks>let unknown code assrape your pc further as you unlock your pc's hypervisor to play the game
>>737969320I unironically trust piratefags more than jeet coded windows or corporations using kernel level anti-cheat.
>>737969320You post the exact thing on the last thread
>>737969320>spare ssd>no internet connection>play all hypervisor gameswhat now faggot?
>>737967986>but I spend all my money on rubber monsters I didn't know del toro was THAT much of a freak.
>>737969320How come I've yet to see a single case of someone who got their computer raped with the hypervisor thing then
>>737970034Have you had a look at one of his houses?
>>737944474>The only way to lower piracy is the increase the strength of the copy protectionnice try Irdeto
>>737943858>We're going to make life increasingly miserable for our video game customers instead of offering better products and servicesThey're going to fuck themselves over in the future, and I'm talking specifically about Capcom and Sega, which are the clearest examples of this
>>737944474hello irdetard
>>737965091that's a long pin mines 3578
>>737949849of course I will ! I'll even double my usual payment for the next game to make it a round 0,00€!
>>737955898that's very antisemitic anon
>>737943858Denuvo means victory.
>>737949394>t. Denuvo shill
>>737955898>without it having any impact on the originalBut it does have an impact. Because there are now two houses the original has been devalued. Plus the devaluation from people seeing you can just copy houses for free instead of buying them. That said since games are no longer products you can own (except for GOG) it doesn't make any sense anyway.
>>737943858>browns figure a way bypass something to get an item for free>instead of being convert they boast from the mountain tops>method gets patchedJust like the nigs and the "free money atm" glitch. Peas in a pod
>>737943858they're a company that sells DRM, what else do you expect them to say? "we lost"? of course they're gonna say that they're working on it
