Get hype?
Why did it take 6 years for them to do that?
doesn't matter because blizzard going to copyright your mods
>>737947608>offline onlySo why should I buy this instead of pirating?
>>737947608>1.29>not 1.31At least it's something
>>737947608Finally, don't have to download 30+ GB just for the original game.
>>737948423Wait, why?
>>737947608>took them 4 years to give you something back you already ownedscum company
>>737947608Did they patch back in the shadows they removed with the reforged release?
They do the bare minimum and everyone lavishes them with praise it's so fucking psychotic
>>737947608I've been holding onto a shady unpatched installer EXE for ages, about damn time Blizzard does something I want.>>737948271I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even support custom maps in LAN and offline.
>>737948460No clue. They could've at least went for 1.30, since it had only minor balance changes.1.31 was huge and seen as the pinnacle of classic WC3, especially with worldedit improvements with an introduction to Lua (as opposed to Jass) scripting, new APIs to change more shit at runtime, and many more improvements to custom map making.
>>737947608Open source warcraft 3 plz
>>737947608Those stupid faggots fucked up og WC3 so much with Reforged that online won't work.Will custom maps made on Reforged versions even work on 1.29?
>>737948830>Will custom maps made on Reforged versions even work on 1.29?Pretty much guaranteed no.
>>737947608Why is it not 1.31 though?
>>737949000Because fuck you, that's why.
>>737949000There is ALWAYS a catch with blizzard wins
>>737948728I found a CD with the source code for WC3 once but I gave it back to Blizzard they were pretty cool about it and gave me a few games and a big-titty Jaina mousepad :)
>Here's your shit back but not reallyI feel nothing as Blizzard died long ago
>>737947608>blizzard's first good release in 23 years
>>737949196D2R was pretty good tho. Stuck true to the original, unlike Reforged
>>737949189I haven't felt anything since Westwood Studios got raped to death by EA.
>>737949283D2R is woke
>>737947608Does it have 24 player colors?
>>737949283It was almost perfect.Almost.
>>737949165>Blizzard>1 step forward, 3 steps back
>>7379487061.31 bricks a lot of custom map AI hero's (they won't use spells) and also has a bug that prevents you from loading games in progress with custom maps. 1.30 is kind of considered the better version between 1.29-1.31 era but even that one has a lot of issues like if there's a slight network hiccup it'll just crash the game for everyone instead of the (waiting for players) popup
>>737949763What would they even need to do exactly to just break everything like that? It's just so stupid.
>>7379503961.26 or 1.27 are considered the most stable of WC3 versions. 1.27b raised the map size limit from 8mb to 128mb which helped a lot with making some neat custom maps. Honestly the whole history of WC3 patches post 1.26a is wild because it's like 1% feature and 99% fixing a bug from the last patch.1.29 introduced widescreen support, doubled the number of players that can be in a map and raised the limits in world editor a shit ton so custom map makers tend to use 1.29 over 1.27b now. But basically from 1.29 and onward the stability of the game breaks so bad, I think the single player campaign isn't even beatable post 1.29 and the reasoning changes depending on the patch. It's just a whole cluster fuck but it's hard to find a definitive version of WC3 to play custom maps1.26/1.27 for stability1.29-1.31 for newer maps/expanded custom maps1.32+ (reforged) allows for even bigger maps and you get shit like this where everything is custom imported modelshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupgbKkkUzY
>>737949405his inventory is full of trt runes
>>737947608not on my client
>>737952491restart the client
Please tell me that I can download this from they b.net website instead of the god awful launcher, I don't want to spend the 30 min it will take to get it running on linux just so that I can delete it after it has finished downloading WC3
All they had to do was made a new engine and wc3 would have raped dota2/lol/any action rpg with a top down view.
>>737948219It's just how Blizzard does things. This isn't an Activision thing; Blizzard has always been this way. They think they know better than the playerbase so they try to force you to have fun how they want you to have fun. When they notice pushback they double down and try to make up bullshit excuses as to why you absolutely need to have fun in the way they want you to have fun and anything else is impossible. Then when everyone is tired of the bullshit and internal numbers start to drop Blizzard is able to miraculously solve a problem they claimed was unsolvable and it's typically by doing the thing everyone asked them to do which they claimed was impossible.
>>737947608Isn't this more or less them just throwing up their hands and abandoning Reforged? I mean, fine by me, but if I had bought the remaster I would be pissed at them leaving the game in such a broken state and permanent DRM
>>737954450Sounds exactly like the devs for FFXIV, I guess that every MMO dev studio is just filled to the brim with inflated egos
>>737954470>remaster so shit they have to release a legacy versionMight as well be them admitting it. No one genuinely likes the remaster in any way besides the quality of life changes/additions. Anything else like the reforged graphics and artstyle is shit.
>>737954697You can't make a remaster wo changing the game engine. They went for the cheap half assed way rather than releasing an actual game like capcom did with resident evil
>>737950971>the single player campaign isn't even beatable post 1.29I recently beat both RoC and TFT campaigns on 1.31 with zero problems.
>>737948219Had no interest in doing it up until the Microsoft management change.Microsoft's the only one of the big 3 publishers left that still go all in on RTS and genres like it.
>>737948219Much less>we just ripped out classic Battle.netShouldn't have been more than a week.
>>737948219Pajeets, please understand
They released a legacy version because there's been a big argument in the Warcraft 3 community between WC3 purists and Reforged modders over the changes in the anniversary edition essentially fucking over modders, the Chronicles of the Second War team have been one of the many mod teams bitching.Now a legacy client lets both be at peace.
>>737954352I just tried to download the "Classic" installer from the webiste, it works but it gives me the 1.27 version which sucks a little bit since newer custom maps rely on 1.29, but hey, at least it runs flawlessly
>>737954110i did...
>>737947608Question, can you manually patch it to 1.31 by using the old patch executables or is it stuck at 1.29?
>>7379560701.27b is the last standalone exe patch that was released.
>>737956070hiveworkshop has threads with download links for standalone clients from patch 1.28-1.31
>>737955028>WoRkS oN mY mAcHiNe!1!
>>737956456>DoNt WoRkS oN mY mAcHiNe!1!
>>737948505>everyoneBlizzcucks, aka not people
>>737947608so I can install it from the launcher now instead of having to find a link through the launcher which links to their support website which downloads a program that loops back into the launcher and then it finally installs the game through the launcher?why the fuck didn't they just treat it like sc1 remaster from the start?
>>737956590You're brown.
Does there exist any Community hosted b.net 1.0 servers so that you can actually find games with WC3 1.27-1.29.2? I know that the 1.30+ patch(es) all ripped out the old networking code to stop players from self hosting but there has to be at least one custom b.net service for the older versions online, right?
Revengeoftheniggerschads, we won
>splitting the playerbase AGAIN>also splitting the map pool AGAIN
fuk u nigga i aint reinstalling BNET
>>737956754You can start it from the launcher. Now you have an option of you want to install the "new and improved" Reforged version of WC3 or the "legacy" one.
>>737947608apparently its only for people who bought reforged.if you owned warcraft 3 already, you're out of luck.
>>737954697>Might as well be them admitting itRemoving the option to play the OG in the first place was them admitting that Reforged was liquid diarrhea that nobody would play if they had a choice.
>>737957221This wouldn't have happened if the devs just FIXED THE FUCKING REMAKE
>he hasn't had his own version which runs without a cd for years
>>737957068you can already host it tho
>>737957409this is what I figured, since I don't have the option and don't have deforged.
>>737954565I wouldn't be surprised if constant subscriber numbers contribute to that, it'd be hard not to get a big head when your MMO has millions of subs for years.
>>737957221They're not splitting it, only the modern version allows online
>>737948706>especially with worldedit improvementsThat's probably exactly why. The better the worldedit is, the more likely they could enable someone else to make another game like DOTA. Blizzard sees that as a failure for them creating their own competition.
>>737956827>make retarded claim not supported by anything>spergs out when given evidence his claim is retarded
>>737958276the wc3 engine isn't going to birth serious competition in the current year. This isn't 2003 anymore
>>737958276Nah they would just take something like Unity, which is easier to use nowadays to make something unique in than worldedit
>>737958276What other anons said, the train is long gone. Those who don't want to make standalone games in Unity/Godot/whatever will use fucking Roblox that is free and runs on every phone no, no one will use s&box shit, not some dead boomer game in some dead boomer genre. Should've hired Icefrog when had chance.
>>737956901I use lanemu to play with friends on patch 1.301.32 is when LAN was removed.I'm sure there's some community ones on like gameranger or other services but idk what patch they'd play on
>tfw never was into wc>always a sc kid>scbw remaster was actually goodI am grateful for never getting into it, sc2 was enough a disapointment for a lifetime.
>>737959264>gamerangerNobody seems to know who still runs those servers. The creator died years ago and the website hasn't been updated. I would stay the fuck away from Gameranger for security reasons.
>>737958175So you are implying>feeding the garena/game ranger rats again
>>737959561Spooky.
>>737948219Cool it with the antisemitism.
Installed it just now to test a custom game vs ai and there are no maps in the list lol
I don't have this on my non-reforged only-RoC-and-TFT account, fuck blizzard.
Why did they bother doing this when everyone was more or less happy with the classic graphics version of Reforged? Is it seriously not even on the latest patch? Can you even play it online? What the fuck is this shit?
>offline and LAN onlywow it's nothing
>remove original WC3 key from my account>never bother to buy the demakeso I guess they want me to pay full price for this shit either way
>>737963580I guess it’s just if you want to play the game with the old balancing since they’ve rebalanced the game many times in Reforged, or you have nostalgia for the old client.
>>737963884Seems more likely they've done it for legal reasons.
What's the point? I'm pretty sure main audience who still play WC3 online doesn't care and>please please release offline/lan version of TFT 1.29!!!! """audience""" is just one guy in his late 30s
Shame WC3 died with reforged, but it's still fun to LAN with friends occasionally.
Why don't they make this ancient ass game free? Why don't they fix their game? Why don't they revert ""balance"" changes? This is a 20+ year old fucking game...
>>737965307True. The game needs to be free if they think of ever having more than 5 boomers playing this dead game
>>737954110>>737952491>>737955746>>737954352You can only download this if you've bought ReforgedIf you linked your original CD-key you can only play Reforged with the new graphics locked. The legacy version is not available if you own only the original.Which means the forum post was a lie or they just don't test anything.
>>737963170??
>>737963580I think some maps and custom campaigns are broken except on older versions of the game.
>>737949283>Stuck truelolnoIt was (((updated))) for the Modern Audience™.
>>737967001>have game pass>get warcraft 3 legacy for freethis is why everyone should have game pass.
>>737948706I'm fine with 1.29 because for some retarded reason everything after it caused the 2nd to last Alliance mission to be broken (because someone had the bright idea to ruin Muradin's/Mountain King's hammer throw ability to not target organic units.).>>737949283Fuck no. And the graphics and models are only the tip of the iceberg.
>>737954450>SC2 Vietnam flashbacks
>>737967405and just for clarity here's the extra proof that it comes with game pass
>>737954697All they had to do was simply take the old models and high-res them. Maybe even making the graphics a tad more like a graphic novel brought to life considering WCIII already looked like that with its art-style.But no. They had to fuck it up so that it would not only be in-line with WoW (Stratholme is a fucking joke in Reforged), but the graphics were a visible downgrade in every way.At least now I can go and reinstall WCIII again without using shady installers.
>>737947608>not 1.26Keep it, I already have what I need, no thanks to blizzjeets.
>>737949283>Stuck true to the original>by pandering to the chink marketfuck you and fuck your handler
