>friend organizes the sword route>sword route gives you the shadow mantle>mantle makes getting the shadow crystal easierso is friend just a stand-in for gaster who wants us to get the shadow crystals for some reason? im retarded and genuinely asking.
The real story of the game will never be as enjoyable as the speculation.
>>737953048Gaster's goal is to "create a new future" and the shadow crystals seem to imply a subversion of the prophecy(?). Whether FRIEND is a creation of Gaster or just an associate is yet to be seen, but we can at least confirm they have aligning goals.
get ready for deltarune to not even address gaster's backstory from undertale
>>>/vg/
>>737953986>no discussing vidya on vee(You)
>>737953048We don't know exactly what Gaster's connection to FRIEND even is. Mus_smile plays during entry number 17 and it plays through phones in the Dark World, plus it being on the DEVICE layer like Gaster. We also don't know if FRIEND was the one who modified the game or not, he is present in the vending machine, in the game and its controller, but we don't know if he is behind all of it and if he is ERAM. Really, we don't know shit about it.>>737953604Toby loves Undertale and he isn't that big of a hack. Gaster's Undertale's backstory has to be addressed.
>>737953271The speculation isn't even as enjoyable as it was a year ago.Tricky Tony somehow gave us even less to talk about by dropping two chapters.
>>737953271That was only true for pre 3 and 4 speculation.
>>737953048Getting the mantle also specifically helps you fight the Knight, and so if FRIEND helps you get the mantle, it's working against the Knight.
>>737953048FRIEND was created to replace Ralsei in the prophecy. He got loose and is acting on his initial programming, and Gaster likely sees him as no-longer alligned with the goal of subverting the prophecy via replacing the heroes.
>>737955891FRIEND and the Knight have the same laughter. Maybe the theories FRIEND raped and murdered Dess are correct.
>>737954968>Undertale's backstory has to be addressedWe'll see that.>>737955140>>737955358Speculation was mostly fueled by patternfagging. No patterns means the game can be anything, and that means it's nearly impossible to make good guesses.
>>737953048
Toby Fox if you can hear us please tweet something about Chapter 5
>>737956682Ever since the spic controversy he hasn't said a thing. You VILL WAIT in SILENCE
>>737956497That and people aren't really making guesses in general. Also I get dooming but I legit don't see Toby not addressing Gaster's backstory.
>>737956075I've seen this idea float around every now and then, but this is the first time I've seen a comprehensive explanation for why this could be the case. Great work, anon.
>>737956682
>>737959265Kris is the real rape victim.
Just wait until I get my vessel, i'm kicking Kris's ass and fucking the doe
>>737960351>
>>737961027That's nasty nigga
>>737961142You could say it’s discomforting.
>>737953604Gaster will always remain a mystery. Best you can hope for is getting some scraps of info so you can piece together you own headcanon
>>737960351Oh my~
There are people who genuinely believe we are getting a newsletter in May
>>737962581A man's cope never dies and all that jazz.
>>737962581if no newsletter in may then this shit better release before august
>>737962581Hope dies last. Anyway the recent nothingburger controversy spooked him a bit so he's probably going to keep his mouth shut until he's ready to announce a release date.
Lads, I have a friend inside me gaming group that claims that no matter what ye do, the ending be thar same. Different routes be different flavors be ye all end at the same destination.
>>737963120I agree with this.I think it's gonna be an Oedipus Rex situation, you can't change the outcome, but you can change your actions during your journey.I think we all agree that the normal route and the weird route have different implications for each relationship.
>>737963120He just believes in the FAQ unlike us truck freaks. At best only the Weird Route is a different ending.
>>737963120He's completely right, the ending will always be the same. What will leave to that ending can change though.
>>737963120D-Demoman?
>>737963120The ending will always be the same because it's gonna cut off before you actually see the ending, but it will be implied that the events after that will play out differently depending on what you've done.
>>737961959Sauce?
>>737962906You're getting no newsletter and release after August, and you will like it.
>>737962906Best I can do is September
So is it just 5? or 5 and 6?
>>737964069Only 5, you're not getting 6 before 2029, maybe very late 2028 if you're lucky.
FRIEND is not going to appear in any grand or story-meaningful wayIt's just an occasional easter egg
>>737964260Why does Tricky Tony want me to hold off on suicide...finish the game damn it.
Toby said a month ago that the last development update would be the last he'd sat for a while, it will have been barely two months when May arrives, what makes people think enough time has passed for another newsletter? At best you're getting a bluesky post mentioning the translation being done, and I highly doubt he'll do even that.
>>737962581Chapter 5 is dropping on the 12th
>>737964320Wait until you hear how long until chapter 7 and 0
>he actually thinks it's going to be anything other than a christmas day release date
>>7379642602029 is when the full game releases, trust the eggman.
>>737964650I think Christmas day release will be reserved for chapter 7. It would be epic
>>737963814@Yuzu_Syuranhttps://www.pixiv.net/en/users/7915798
>>737964260the doomers are getting silly at this point
>>737964650For real though, there is no way in hell it takes that long to playtest 3 hours worth of content. The only way we get a december release is if he sits on it for some inexplicable reason.
>>737965062>Chapter 5>It's all about December Holiday>Releases it in August.No, its gonna be December.
>>737965175>It's all about December Holiday[citation needed]
Don't forget.I"m with you and Barack>>737965467Hot steaming homo sex with Asriel!
>>7379647022029 is a bit optimistic.According to my analysis it takes on average 1.5 years to complete a chapter. The custom gamemaker feature still needs to be updated and tested for ch6/7 so that adds at least six extra months of devtime. Then add time wasted on miscellaneous shit like trailers, ARG, scheduling issues, etc. and you end up on 2030 at the latest assuming there is nothing more after ch6 and 7.
>>737964702That would mean 2 chapters in 3 years, which, given the track record, I simply cannot bring myself to believe it.
>>737965501Deltarune is all about her. You live in Dess's world.
>>737964778Thanks, fren.>>737965467>>737965542This but straight sex and with Chara and other humans.
I wanna go back in time to when people were freaking out over if it will actually take 7 years and tell them it'll take longer
>>737966272We really didn't know what we were just getting into back then.
>>737966272I remember when it actually taking seven years was a joke like in here >>737959668
>>737966272I thought the whole game was going to be out by 2021 back in 19
>>737965684...but previous chapters did not release in December, so the argument that that means that Chapter 5 will release in December does not hold up.
>>737967871Yeah, I agree. December is just way to late.
>>737965560>>737965591But... the Forgotten Man said so... We must believe in him...
duuuuuuur
Damn, the content drought really did a number on these threads. We're running on fumes here
>>737969657Now THAT's a bimbo.
>>737969657Silly doe.
>>737969810These threads feel like the Black Lodge in between chapters
>>737969810There's nothing to do except WAITing, plus there's daily threads since forever. It's better to just WAIT and make threads when there's news again.
>>737969810Did you think we were going to party all the way to Chapter 5?The WAIT is our truest state of being.
>>737953048Gaster does not expect us to "defeat" The Knight in Chapter 3. It's not something that's "supposed to" happen, we make it happen through our Determination. Kris getting the Shadow Crystals is not something that's expected to happen, which makes it more interesting to me that it's apparently Kris's goal.It should also be remembered that while ERAM (who is likely FRIEND) does set up the "Sword Route" and ultimately give Kris the Shadow Mantle, it seems like Seam intended to just give it to Kris in Chapter 2. FRIEND made the process more difficult than it needed to be and caused Kris a lot of unnecessary hardship.
>>737963120>friend inside meHow come I'm the only one who saw that.
>>737969929
>>737969929>in between chaptersAll the time. You simply must adapt to it.
What if Tobert delays chapter 5 because the fans pissed him off during the translation controversy
>>737969852Who you calling silly?
>>737969982I noticed it and ignored it as a true friend inside me hater.
>Dess molested Kris theoryBoring>Carol molested Kris theoryBased
>>737970143The only thing that "controversy" did was make him shut up for awhile.
>>737970221Why are the best milf artists all doing undertale ffs
>>737955140we're halfway through the game and it's just tougher to speculate on anything because we know so much. there's also the really depressing resistance to anyone who entertains theories that go against whatever headcanon NPCs have internalized like the insistence that dess is the knight as if that isn't a carol-level red herring. a lot of the joy is just sapped out of theory autism now.
>>737970221Even the wider fandom thinks Carol could've groomed Kris (non-sexually, at least), honestly that one tumblr post that called him the most molested character of all time might be right.
>>737970143That would put the nipponese in the crossfire which Toby would never do
>>737970319we're in a weird spot with the game atmi think ch5 will cause people to go crazy with the theory autism again though
>>737970319This is the same place where Noelle Knight was popular for weeks, people love out there theories.
>>737970374>kris is the most molested character of all timefactually true everyone wants a piece of kris
>>737969657
>>737970453I can't wait for Noelle to figure out how truly weak Kris is and how she can take them as her own anytime she wants.
>>737970647>halfwayBut we're at ch4 and there's seven 7 listed on the menu. Chapter 0 confirmed?!?'1'?'
>edgy autistic retard Dessbased>cool older sister popular mean girl Desscringe
>>737971073I wish we had more girl failure Dess.
>>737970453Why are they irresistible to everyone, especially deer women?
>>737971410The does can't resist humans. their smell their skin it's so erotic to them. Rudy is the only one unaffected because he's not a woman.
I know a French Acadian when I see one, in fact I think the fact Toby Fox must be of French descent gives him unique artistic sensibilities.
What is Kris's ultimate fantasy?
>>737971650What would happen if Rudy met a female human, then?
>>737971927what I get from Kris is that he's just a fucked up brat
>>737971927That everything will end up alright...Or being the Knight/Dess's puppy.
>>737971931molestation. The Holidays shouldn't be allowed around humans in general they would rape you if giving the chance.
>>737971931He prefers big burly boss monsters. A meek female human would do nothing for him
>>737953604Sans and Papyrus's backstory is more of a mystery than Gaster's
>>737970871noelle already knows what kris is likethat's why she's so scared on the weird route, because kris is acting very unkrislike
>>737953604Ok? I don't want his backstory explained, what you don't show in a story is as important as what you do show.There's so much mystique behind Sans and Gaster, it's impossible to do it justice by writing something, but you can do it justice by NOT writing anything.
>>737971927being a dog or goat monster so she can finally be accepted by everyone
>>737971927
>>737954873no generals on vee
>>737971927>>737972334>>737972372This is the character shipfags self insert as?? This is their hero?
>>737970871Kris is one of the few people she can say no to. She knows how to rape 'em
>>737972535only with mkrisfemkris chads are well aware kris is her own person and insert are the soul
>>737972535I relate to Kris because I also want to be Noelle's dog
>>737972098And of course Carol is into politics and thus she and her family can molest whoever they want.
>>737972535You shouldn't talk shit Noelle when you've been just as raped as Kris has. Both you and Kris will be used up by me
>>737972535I only self-insert as him in very few cases.
Krusie is better than Kriselle because Susie would never hurt Kris All Noelle does is hurt Kris.
>>737973168Name a single time Noelle hurt Kris
king's betrayal feel so satisfying to watch nowcan't wait for them to all die in the weird route
>>737973168Kris hurts Susie by betraying her for Dess
>>737973242I cannot wait for the drama when this comes to light
>>737973168Yeah but Kris would end up hurting her instead.
>>737973168But are you mentally prepared for Kris to hurt Susie?
A gacha thread died for this
>>737973631thistoby should apologize by making his third game a ut/dr gatcha
>>737973168maintaining the krusie agenda is our top priority
Name her crimes
As usual, Ralsusie is the best, least problematic ship in Deltarune (ignore the fact they can never be together)
>>737973828Ralsei is more like an older brother to Susie, I feel like they got really close on chapter 2
>>737969810I mean there was that Tenna figure ad so uhhh…. It said it’s for JUST boys and girl. Non-binarytards on suicide watch…
>>737973828He’s a object and like 3 days old
>>737969810Personally I’m horrified these threads are THIS active considering they’ve been daily for several months without any new content. this show is running off purely five autists and a moral refusal to interact with goatpedos.
>>737973825reckless usage of ICE magic
What if Toby Fox was called Toby Freak and instead of a boring twist like “Dess raped kris” Noelle raped Dess who never told anyone because no one would ever believe her?
>>737973920Susie doesn't care
>>737969929we're not gonna talk about Dess
>>737974123Deltarune if it was good
>>737974005/vg/ has all the drawfags but no anons, /v/ has all the “anons” but no drawfags. at this point a full migration to the fujo general might be an improvement for both sides
>>737973631We already horny post like they do, even sometimes with non-furries>>737973738Gacha sucks but I kinda like this idea just to see different UT/DR characters in various cool outfits.
>>737973825She made illegal frozen chicken.
>>737974332
>>737974238>fujo general ?
>>737969951>FRIEND made the process more difficult but why?
>>737974442/utg/ is full of w*men who post chubby spamtenna art and make gay pippins OCs. this still is their current OP image
What I don't get about the Weird Route is how your strength basically evaporates by the chapter's end even though you kill Berdly and freeze a bunch of Darkners and deny them the ability to run. Does that mean you have to Snowgrave or slay a LOT of enemies to keep the power? Will you have to save up enemies to fight to get significantly stronger in a later chapter? It doesn't make sense how "getting stronger" is taken away from you as soon as part of the adventure finishes.
>>737974543Just go back to saying we should go back to /vg/, bro. This falseflagging is cringe.
I fucking hate /utg/ please don't make me go there it's actual fucking cancer
>>737974592noelle is the one getting stronger, not kris or (you)what this means is still unclear
What's her end game
>>737974096>Noelle raped Dess>Noelle raped KrisSerial rapist doe.
>>737974730
>>737974238and whatever they're doing in /vrpg/ is... something.
>>737974670It's just one schizo who hates that Deltarune is discussed on /v/ who keeps trying to make people go there
>>737974730Sex with Kris
>>737974592This isn't Undertale, it's not Kris getting stronger like Chara and Frisk got, but Noelle. Supposedly her stats don't reset but we will only know that if she goes back to the Dark World in 5. But if she does it explains why we need to use her to start the route, she's a loophole.
>>737974730Killing (You) in the Weird Route
>>737974879'member when Chapter 3+4 came out and the jannies were deleting the threads so we would make sneaky ones like that one where we pretended it was a Carmageddon thread and the OP was this
>>737974730Her and her boytoy are just side characters to make hometown alive. We might fight her in the weird route, though.
>>737975032yepdk was allowed 2/3 of the board but deltarune, which just released a few days prior, was deleted on sight until maybe august/ september
>>737975140>/v/ when DKB came out That was a shitshow
>>737975032For me it was the watercooler threads or the AIslop ones.
>>737974005Deltarune is a popular game, plus /v/ has goatfags too.
>>737974676>>737975009We don't have proof that Noelle's strength is retained from a previous chapter since she hasn't rejoined the party yet. It's still strange though that beating or freezing enemies still gives you the same HP boost for all party members but its reset by next chapter. The temporary HP boost has to serve some sort of purpose that's important for a single chapter, wouldn't it?
>>737975140I think the janny who did that must have hanged himself knowing threads are still going today because of him.
>>737966272I thought it was just going to come out all at once after the seven years
>>737975351It doesn't actually reset, it's just that you also get stronger by sealing the fountain. The problem is that the amount of strength you gain by killing enemies is capped outside of Noelle.
>>737975351in deltarune, the only thing that seems to permanently raise stats is sealing a fountain, which raises lv by 1why that is when we seem to have confirmation that LOVE still exists is unclear, but i might have something to do with darkners technically not being 'real'
>>737975409no he's still around and deletes threads on occasion much less trigger happy though, i think he got whipped by a mod after enough people complained
>>737975546It's very inconsistent when the jannies delete Deltarune threads nowadays. A week ago a lot of threads were getting deleted but we're at peace once more.
>>737975491What gets raised is labeled as level or fakelove in the files if I remember correctly. Kris LOVE is displayed in the Light World menu, though.
>>737969810>content droughtThe game doubled in size less than one year ago from now.Chapter 2 held interest very well for those nearly 4 years, though the sweepstakes did help that.The issue is something more controversial.
Greetings.I am Chara.Thank you.Your power awakened me from death.My "human soul."My "determination."They were not mine, but yours.At first, I was confused.Our plan had failed, hadn’t it?But with your guidance, I realized the purpose of my reincarnation.Power.Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong....Wait.Who is this?A new puppet?She looks fragile.Like a toy that breaks after one use.And that ring.I can smell the frostbite from here....."Your previous partner?""A toxic ex?"...I see.You think you are clever.You think this is a game of replacements.You speak of me as if I were a discarded tool, while you flaunt this... whimpering deer.You tell me she absorbed your soul?That you have recreated the "Asriel maneuver" with a more obedient vessel?...How disgusting.You haven’t understood a thing.When I was with Asriel, we were two parts of a whole, striving for a future.We failed because of his weakness.But you... you didn't seek a partner.You have turned a soul into a cage.You call me toxic?I am the feeling you get when a number increases.I am the cold logic of the end.I am exactly what you made me.But this... this is just pathetic.You are playing house in the ruins of a graveyard.You think that by combining your determination with her magic, you are "stronger" than the end of the world?You forget.I am the one who collects the debt.No matter how many puppets you bring to the stage...The outcome is the same.Now.Let us erase this pointless world, and your new "partner" along with it.
>>737976097Yeah, we were left with more questions than answers. It also narrowed down how things could play out in future chapters but didn't give us enough info to be able to speculate beyond the surface level.
>>737976529Go home Chara, you're drunk
>>737976529I would never do this, I'm a humanbro before a doefag. I luv my wives
>>737976097Did we have daily threads during the 2 era? Because I thought they were far more spaced out
>>737976896I was most active during 2024, I remember those threads were blooming with memes and speculation and OC, way more varied than what we have now.
>>737976896nothe primary reason for the daily threads, whether op knows it or not, is getting back at the janny who was nuking every single thread he could find for months on end summer of last year
>>737977486>>737977523Yeah, that's probably it. Daily threads just made the well of content dry off faster than in the 2 era, plus no big meme character like Spamton.
>>737974448The two most solid leads we have regarding FRIEND's character/motivation are1) In Chapter 3, assuming that they are "ERAM" or are otherwise ultimately responsible for the content and events of the "Mantle Game/Sword Route," they have intimate knowledge of Kris's feelings and motivation, they use that information to torment Kris, but ultimately still give Kris the Shadow Mantle, which they assert that Kris is looking for specifically to obtain the Shadow Crystals2) In Chapter 4, assuming that "THE TAIL OF HELL" and "the pointed tail" are referring to FRIEND, they are framed as anti-Prophecy, a Satanic figure tempting people to deviate from their fate>The tale which must be followed.>The tail which must not be followed.The simplest explanation is that FRIEND is helping Kris BECOME STRONGER and even work toward their "freedom," but that process can't be easy. It has to be difficult and painful. You need to work hard. You need to sacrifice things. You need to break your bonds. In this world, it's kill or be killed.This lines up with the other Shadow Crystals. A strange someone is guiding a bunch of unhinged lunatics to these artifacts of power, and Kris needs to confront them to win them. That's FRIEND. FRIEND isn't just in Queen's basement because they made [[Communion]] with Spamton, they're there to watch Kris struggle.
>>737974878you just can't handle the YELLOW style
>>737974448Probably to fuck with Kris or to try to awaken his violent urges. It does say that Kris enjoyed Snowgrave so it wants Kris to be evil and fucked up.
>>737974878>>737977832It's just the same as any other thread but with a focus on fucking furry OCs mixed with elitism. That's it.
>>737974676>>737975009That's not true. Noelle seems to have significantly more potential to BECOME STRONGER as indicated by her literal stats scaling faster and (You)r fixation on making her STRONGER, but it affects Kris too (and your other party members when they rejoin the party, but that might be purely gameplay)This savepoint describes both Noelle and Kris as "filled with power," and later in Castle Town:>* After a long day, you have returned to the castle town.>* But, you still feel the power in your hands...
>>737977998>elitismabout?
>>737977662Your post kinda exemplifies why I don't like FRIEND discussion at all, no offense to you in particular. But both of your points start with "assuming that" and making fanfic about it, it makes me realize we know less about this cat than Gaster, all of is fanon. Good analysis otherwise, though.
>>737978065About being the best threads on 4chan about UT/DR and the only threads that capture the old 4chan and all. I guess it's mostly because they're more of a niche community, most fanwork communities anywhere act that way
>>737978001I didn't say in my post that Kris and the rest never got stronger, it's just that the goal is for Noelle specifically to get stronger. The strength Kris gets can be gotten without going to the weird route.
>>737953604Are we on the side of:>Gaster is the third skeleton brotheror>Sans and Papyrus are living fragments of Gaster
>>737974730Remaining a joke character who hates Susie’s guts. That or she and jockinton fucking kidnapped dess when they were 7.
>>737978381Former but he's their parent. Old fanon always wins, plus I'm certain Gaster's beta was grandpa semi.
>>737978169I thought Eram's battle would have been enough to establish that FRIEND is just a generic mook enemy.And Eram is already pretty much what people wanted FRIEND to be anyway.
>>737978381>>737978479grandpa semi theory still unchallenged anywaywhy the fuck does his song play on the michaelbomb anyway?
>>737978381a co worker
>>737978565I'm pretty sure it's used in a Temmie gag in Undertale as well, it's probably because it's quirky.
>>737976896maybe super early on but they pretty quickly got spaced out avoiding burnout as fast. this was also when /utg/ was SORTA tolerable so if you wanted 24/7 deltarune discussions you could just go there
>>737978381Gaster is a character with no relation to Undertale who used his reality breaking powers to self-insert into Undertale's lore and lure their players into his own project. He also stole the likeness and elements from Undertale to make his Deltarune even more appealing.All his backstory is in universe fiction created to fool (You).
>>737978169>both of your points start with "assuming that" and making fanfic about ityeah that's how theorizing and speculation about future events in the story worksWe won't know until we know, but I believe this is a coherent theory that explains the information we have so far and puts it in context with the greater narrative.>>737978524>I thought Eram's battle would have been enough to establish that FRIEND is just a generic mook enemy."the thing that keeps popping up everywhere to the point of becoming a major piece of foreshadowing for the next Chapter isn't actually important at all" is enormous copeand "ERAM" doesn't make sense as its own character
>>737978843This would genuinely be hack tier. Gaster being our only direct connection to Undertale is kino and I don't want Toby to throw that away
>>737979027>popping up everywhereonly showed up once on chapter 2, which was favorable to him being a unique characterso far friend just feels like an anti-annoying dog, which is relevant on it's own way but probably not a full fledged character
>>737979027>yeah that's how theorizing and speculation about future events in the story worksNot all future events. Most FRIEND theories is assumptions on assumptions, some other theories are at least based on factual evidence, while FRIEND theories are like "there's this tail and he's connected to FRIEND because both are spooky"
>>737974238I'm sorry I'm a drawfag but I never post any drawings here I can spare you this doodle!
>>737978707>this was also when /utg/ was SORTA tolerable so if you wanted 24/7 deltarune discussions you could just go there/utg/ was literally filled with the same spam of the same Snowgrave arts during that era.
>>737979248We do have some drawfags from time to time but thanks for the OC fren.
>>737979027>yeah that's how theorizing and speculation about future events in the story worksPeople tried doing that for 7 whole years and it mostly failed to predict anything.I'm shocked at how the Mikes weren't enough to hit people in the head about how this game isn't really a murder mystery thing.If you want to actually predict shit, you have to focus on the text, the "blue curtains means depression" analysis type is the one that was the most successful in predicting future events.
>>737979354and these threads DON’T spam the same five pics?
>>737979714Not to the extent the anti-Berdly poster did.https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/Cu6fjpyQ5k5PrkUAtZ7JbQ/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/gaBEAXIRqkt_I2vYb7uv5A/https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/BwQkrexMol2EEhxw8KAGCA/
>>737976097The brainrot set in from the 3-year drought. No matter what happens now all the same lunatics will still be posting here
>>737980331OOC. Noelle would never be this forward.
>>737980568not in public, at the very least
>die like 10 times to The Roaring Knight because I forgot to equip ShadowMantle like a tard>Equip it>Win right afterThat thing is stupid useful. If in the next fight the Fun Gang are supposed to win, it might make the encounter a glorified cutscene
>>737979150>only showed up once on chapter 2It's front-and-center in the mandatory cutscene at the start of Chapter 3, not just an easily missed easter egg like in Chapter 2. Everyone who's played the game has gotten a good look at it.It then comes up repeatedly in the rest of the Chapter related to the back room and mantle game, and has a more hidden appearance in Chapter 4.>>737979232>there's this tail and he's connected to FRIEND because both are spookyFRIEND is explicitly a cat-thing. The fundamental concept of the disembodied creepy smile is a Cheshire Cat reference. Chapter 3 shows its cat ears and prominently shows it imitating Endogeny (amorphous creature with cats in its negative space). Chapter 4 has Cat Mike."THE TAIL OF HELL" is depicted as a series of connected circles. This is consistent with the pet cats in Noelle's CatPetterz game, as described in her Spamton Sweepstakes blogs. Noelle separately describes how she received a glitched pet in that game, and in another entry describes seeing pic related in one of the CatPetterz minigames (and suggests Kris has seen it too).https://deltarune.com/bluecircle/https://deltarune.com/catpetterz/https://deltarune.com/egg/https://deltarune.com/rain/https://deltarune.com/rarecats/This is not a spurious connection. These pages were written for a reason.>>737979429I basically disregarded all speculation about "Mike"/FRIEND after Chapter 2 because there was nothing to go on. It was just a creepy face and some throwaway lines from Spamton, jumping to conclusions based on that was ridiculous.That isn't the case anymore, the story is already halfway over. Most of the cards are on the table even if they haven't been flipped yet. This is what the text is telling me..
inb4 some faggot posts "durr the sweepstakes aren't canon"
>>737980568If she finds out Kris actually does care about her and that he was working to save Dess she’d jump his bones
>>737980605To be fair that's after us making her stronger but fair enough.
>>737980657FRIEND being a cat is true, but all the connections you made to it, the cat petterz page and the tail of hell are all speculation simply because the tail is made of circles (which FRIEND isn't made of in its actual appearance). Kind of funny you complain about having nothing to go of when we still don't. People don't even mention his actual connections to Susie’s chair which are actually seen in its only definitive appearance.
>>737980705even if the events mentioned aren't strictly 100% canon, all of the information about the characters seem to be
>>737978169A lot of speculation on Friend and even ERAM basically takes a lot of assumptions baked in by fandom telephone as fact. That thing, as disgusting as it looks, might not even be all that evil. Chapter 5 is going to be the second nuclear strike on fandom theories, and its quickly approaching. Picrel was what a lot of people thought would happen before 3&4 dropped, myself included.
>>737978843>Gaster is just a modern sonic.exe character (minus hypperrealistic blood and gore)coal of the highest order, only Cawthon could come up with this slop
>>737980857Secondary canon, basically? It's pretty much true until the primary material contradicts it?
>>737980705Yeah, no, it's not canon but everything in it seems to accurately reflect game information so we should use it.>>737980859It would be funny if FRIEND was the real Mike and wasn't evil but genuinely cared about Spamton and Tenna.
>>737980657>It's front-and-center in the mandatory cutscene at the start of Chapter 3That doesn't show him like in a proper character reveal. He is just there looking cute.>because there was nothing to go onThat's why considering he was a unique character was acceptable, because it didn't contradict anything.You might be correct about something, but you're getting dangerously close to people assuming Mike HAD to be a secret boss.You're also not acknowledging Swatch here. He implies Spamton stole the glasses idea from him, which confused everyone about FRIEND's deal, and now with the importance the game is giving to pink and gold it just gets more confusing on who came up with that in-universe. Chapter 1 is also weird on how it completely lacks him and the associated motifs (among many other things not in there), EXCEPT for Seam.>This is what the text is telling me..You're just playing detective here and trying to piece clues together. Try thinking about what FRIEND means to the story and characters symbolically, like how Queen reflects the mothers of the characters in many ways, particularly Carol.
>>737981126yeah toby stepping back on it being canon also seems to be mostly a reaction to one specific post (newest_girl_girl) instead of him just making a blanket statement ahead of timehe also may have just been talking about the actual sweepstakes itself with spamton and not the noelle posts, his actual message is pretty vague on that
>>737981025I mean, a huge chunk of Undertale's popularity came from the fact the game had a canonical creepypasta pre-packaged with it, just less gory than usual.
>>7379642606 would be mid/late 2027- early 2028 if he keeps up the exact pace and assuming chapters are of consistent scope, now If it was 6+7 then yes it'd be almost 2030 before that
>>737980859>Chapter 5 is going to be the second nuclear strike on fandom theoriesAre people that hung up on those by now? The message felt very clear to me. It's the shippers who will get nuked the most except susellefags>Picrel was what a lot of people thought would happen before 3&4 dropped, myself included.God, it still hurts so much.
>>737976097Ch2 introduced way more things to talk about between determination being a thing, the weird route, schizos, Friends first appearance, and coomers even got the Trinity of Noelle mindbreak, Tasque manager and Queen to pad threads
>>737977998There's also a clique of devs for fangames in them, and it's somewhat parasocial (I guess at this point they are friends since they talk this much)
>>737980839>the connections you made are speculationI don't know why you keep repeating "your theory is just a theory" like I'm not aware of this or that it's meaningful criticism>simply because the tail is made of circlesThe tail is made of circles for a reason.The tail was depicted with a point on the end that was cut from the final game for a reason.Toby Fox wrote half a dozen blog posts as Noelle talking about Cat Petterz for a reason.>People don't even mention his actual connections to Susie’s chair which are actually seen in its only definitive appearance.Ralsei's explanation of how Dark Worlds work was a visual aid, not a real event. It was not "its only definitive appearance." Even within the scene there is not direct continuity between the depiction of Susie's room and the Dark World dreamscape. Likewise, Queen and Lancer were not actually in Kris's hallway.https://deltarune.com/chair/ is foreshadowing the scene of Ralsei's explanation, in which the chair and FRIEND both appear. There's no meaningful connection between the two and trying to rationalize FRIEND as a Darkner based on Susie's chair becomes ridiculous if you give it any serious thought at all.
>>737981746how can it be parasocial if they talk to each other on equal footing?
>>737981785That is true, I didn't use the word right. For them it's basically a forum where the regulars talk with each other
>>737981772>Toby Fox wrote half a dozen blog posts as Noelle talking about Cat Petterz for a reason.And you should think of that in a symbolic way first. It's not about the creepy cat schizoboss that will be definitely fought on chapter whatever, it's about the meta analysis of the relatioship between player and fiction yada yada you get it
>>737981846I've complained there it started to feel a bit too much like a discord server after a certain point, but whatever, and it's not like these /v/ threads aren't mostly fueled by the same dozen regulars for the past months
>>737974730Being the best choice.I'd expect to see her in the Dark World at some point, maybe during the fair, and have some more character development. She won't ever be romance-able, but it's clear she does care about Kris, even if in a platonic manner.
>>737961027Oh I remember this guy. Surpised he's still getting art. Character was made in the early stages of UT"s fandom.
Chapter 3 did quite a lot to introduced "Nowhere" as an important concept, it gets mentioned way more often than I had thought at first, but people don't really discuss it for some reason.
>>737982361It hasn't really been discussed at length. What I have seen when its brought up though is that Kris will have to be alone for whatever kind of segment Nowhere is, if its a thing that happens. Something like Black Space from Omori where crazy bullshit happens in the protag's head.
>>737982361nowhere seems to be a state rather than a placekris 'going nowhere' seems to mean staying where he is, instead of going off somewhere like asriel
>>737981257>That doesn't show him like in a proper character reveal.It's not a "proper character reveal" but it is introducing the character.If FRIEND turns out to be the secret boss of Chapter 5 or is otherwise properly introduced with a significant role in the story later, it wouldn't completely come out of nowhere for casual fans because everyone has already seen it in Chapter 3.Having some mandatory story presence in between the very subtle easter eggs is significant and supportive of the idea that this is going to be relevant later and not just dataminer theory bait.>you're getting dangerously close to people assuming Mike HAD to be a secret bossnot even a little bit>You're also not acknowledging Swatch here.Swatch is irrelevant. His glasses are orange.Pink-and-yellow is clearly and independently associated with FRIEND.>Try thinking about what FRIEND means to the story and characters symbolicallyI touched on this earlier and I would have to make a whole post to properly elaborate on it, but the TL;DR is that FRIEND is a "demon."A demon in a similar sense, maybe the same sense, that "Chara" or You were in Undertale. Or maybe more like Flowey, depending on how things go.It is a creature detached from the "real" world of the game, not a Lightner or Darkner but something darker beyond that (which is why it shares Gaster's nomenclature). It is directly opposed to playing along with the game. Its only goal seems to be to cause chaos and force the protagonist to overcome everything in their path to GET STRONGER, at any cost.
>>737981885>And you should think of that in a symbolic way firstWhat part of the Spamton Sweepstakes blog posts were "symbolic?"Almost every page has had direct relevance to scenes and information revealed in Chapter 3 and 4, or foreshadowing Chapter 5.
>>737982456>>737982612I'm not gonna bother gathering text from the textdump and making a schizoboard and such, I'm done trying to take this speculation too seriously by now, but I think everyone is sleeping hard on the potential there. I'll lay my broad points here:Several ch3 NPCs mention going to this Nowhere with the tickets. Shuttah draws a parallel between UT's Undeground and TV World being an equivalent of it, with a stage built on top of it that not everyone accepted, some leaving for the Nowhere. Definitely something about DR being created after UT and the expectations of such a thing.I'm sure there was at least one bit of dialogue (besides the Forgotten Man) saying how Nowhere is the last remnant of how DR's used to be in the past."Somewhere in between" is also a common idea, besides the obvious ones I'll point out how Kris shows up in both his light and dark outfits there, and Gerson saying whatever about finding a way in between possibly implying the egg rooms are the real key to the game.Tangential, but regardless of anyone's opinions on how ch3 went, I think it was clearly attempting to tie all the paths of the game into a single thing:>normal route surface level plotlines>secret bosses and the shadow crystal hunt>the weird route>the Dess mystery>the forgotten man>the Gaster shenanigansAll this mostly through the retro game gimmick.
>>737983671>What part of the Spamton Sweepstakes blog posts were "symbolic?"Spamton gave away the main deal with Carol years before chapter 4, to anyone paying attention.That WAIT period is also very weird with how much he spoiled chapter 3. Only 2 got a little bit of that sort of treatment before, but he revealed almost nothing about 1, 4 and 5 before they came out.
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>>737974730somehow winning the krisbowl due to every other candidate being dead or worse
why does the literal embodiment of televisionman have such a big schnoz?
going quiet after the accumulated fiascos is probably the best move, he is definitely only saying something when the release date is set in stonewouldn't it be real funny if Toby shitposted on bsky right after I post this sentence?
>>737984773him coming out to vocally shit on the latinx' bitching was a really bizarre move from himthere was no reason for him to do so, all the real controversy happened because of his response, before that it was just grumbling
>>737984918>there was no reason for him to do soThe real schizo mystery is how much Materia and specially Fangamer have control or influence over Toby and Deltarune.
>>737982361"Going nowhere" is the heart of Kris's character and a big part of Deltarune as a whole.To boil it down, Kris is a depressed teenager on the edge of adulthood who is unhappy with themself and their life but also doesn't want to grow up and face the world changing around them. They don't like their present and don't feel like they have a future, so they just want to retreat into themselves, or if anything regress into the past.This borderline suicidal disregard for their own well-being explains why Kris went along with the plan in the first place, and why Gerson expresses particular concern if you tell him you're going "nowhere" on the Weird Route.The idea of going nowhere, staying in the present forever or returning to the past/how things should be, is all over the place in the game. Somehow getting Dess back is almost certainly the motivation behind Carol and Kris's plan. Asgore is motivated by the delusion that he can repair his broken family. Even Susie expresses her hope that>* I want tomorrow to be the same as yesterday.and>* We can always go back to the way things were before.The Prophecy itself, in this context, is the inevitable and inescapable future. You can't stop the world from changing, nobody can.But at the very least, if you're Determined enough, can't you make your own FATE?
>>737985005i wonder if it was because wolf has a poor reputation as of late so toby had to come out himself to clear the air
>>737985131Not disagreeing with your analysis, but it's frustrating to see yet another story fall into this mold, and the most aggravating is how early this happened in DR, when UT mostly pushed it to the end of the run.
>>737960351Question. Why are you the first human that falls down in undertale? Chara is supposed to be the player right? Supposed to be you. Why did frisk become his own person only towards the end of the pacifist? I feel like I'm missing something.
>>737985426I think this is a foundational part of the story but it's not the only part, and there's a lot of ways it could go from here. I doubt it's going to be as simple as "if your sister is dead and you can't hang out with your goat twink friend anymore, that's life kid deal with it lmaooo"Susie's big speech at the end of Chapter 4 is also the first time this sentiment really comes to the forefront, and it's unambiguously presented as a moment of shining hope and resolve against the oppressive fate of the Last Prophecy, bringing things back from the brink of their darkest hour. Nothing about this is saying it's wrong to feel this way.>* (Susie's smile, which seemed to defeat everything)>* (Shined on in front of you, and for a moment)>* (It was as if all the darkness had been blown away.)>* (As if in imitation, your SOUL began to glow...)
>>737985919It does nothing to me because I don't like Susie and I like her and the rest of the main cast increasingly less with each new release.
What moment did Deltarune completely suck you into its world?For me it was the Sword Route, rarely, if ever, has a game ever made me feel this level of wonder and unease at the same time, I couldn't get my eyes off the screen.
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>>737986682SWORD route might unironically be the best part of the gamehow did he do it
>>737987603he built it up during the sweepstakesrealizing that (you) were playing the same part of the game noelle described on her blog was giga kino
>>737986682https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QXn1SAvFtwScarlet Forest.No matter what, Card Kingdom still feels immaculate after all those years. It was like playing Undertale for the first time again.I'm never going to feel that again.
>>737989409Never is a long ass time.
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>>737990814
From a MikeGOD, to you.
>>737991297>We act like we didn't take a lot from Toby Fox but we took a LOT from Toby Fox.I don't get how this subset of millennial artists keep telling the same story so many times.
>>737991786Gooseworx is an awful, retarded writer. Literally everyone on the art team fucking hates the story they have to work on, it's such a shitty, derivative story so afraid of saying anything real or having any sort of artistry behind it, it's anti-art. No wonder only literal children and manchildren enjoy it.
nerf the knight
>>737992782filtered
>>737953604Everyone in this community seems to have it in their heads that Gaster must be handled either by him not appearing at all, or by having all questions relating to him answered. Either option would make Toby a Scott Cawthon-tier hack writer.If you have any confidence in Toby as a writer, the truth will be something in between. Something in between.
>>737984327Tenna's nose is supposed to be the V in TV.
>>737995428i figured that we're going to get a little chat with him near the end at most, just him answering a couple questions like why he wanted (you) there and maybe his reason for paying attention to deltarune i don't even think kris or anyone else will be there, i don't even think he'll make it entirely clear that he's the one speaking to (you) outside of the text thing he does
>>737963120If the ending is the same mr pirate then how come im going to make a mod that adds a separate ending?
>>737981772>"your theory is just a theory" like I'm not aware of this or that it's meaningful criticismBecause it's my personal criticism of anything FRIEND related. That it's all speculation, theories and fanfiction because there's less canon about it than Gaster. Anyways your post did another sin that makes me dislike FRIEND theories which is ignoring canon (FRIEND appearing as a chair) for fanon. Also you're ignoring that the fortunes in Chapter 3 say that the chair is going to kick your ass implying it is indeed an important darkner.
>>737981746>>737981846I kinda agree as well. People complain about these threads but those feel more like a circlejerk than here, especially if you're interested in fanworks outside of the "approved" ones.
>>737982327Chisk is weirdly popular despite everything, even nippon knows them.
>>737985131One of my favourite theories (though very basic, predictable, and extremely obvious) would be how every dark world represents a form of escapism since, how it all ties back to all of Deltarune's core themes.>Chapter 1 Closet: escapism via games>Chapter 2 Computer Lab: escapism via technology>Chapter 3 Living Room: escapism via television>Chapter 4 Church: escapism via religion>Chapter 5 Flower Shop: escapism via family>Chapter 6 Shelter: escapism via memories>Chapter 7: no more escapism, only reality.
>>737981326Yeah, but the genocide route is pretty well written despite everything. I don't think Gaster being a character that inserts himself into Undertale would be well written. >>737985762Neither Frisk and Chara are (you) as show in both pacifist and genocide endings. All you do is name Chara because she is supposed to be the concept of an RPG protagonist, while Frisk is the protagonist as a real person in the universe. That's why she only becomes fully separate from (you) in pacifist, the route where you treat Undertale as a real world and care about its characters, while Chara only shows up when you treat everyone simply as a number to go up, which is why she destroys the world. Everything involving the humans is complicated but that's why I really like 'em.
>>737983943While Kris is busy being molested/groomed by the Holiday women, Susie's getting groped by Ralsei every other chapter.
>>737989409I do hope ch5 is able to bring out a similar feeling the first one did, the flower shop setting has the potential to do it. There's just something magical about ch1 that later chapters failed to capture. Best soundtrack as well.
>>737983829That's because 3 is light on story and canonically stalling for time until the Knight arrives so Toby could show off more of it. Every other chapter has too much plot to be spoiled.
>>737985426>>737985131Deltarune's themes fit pristinely as a straightforward coming of age story and I guess people aren't ready to accept it won't get as crazy as they want it to be
>>737982361Nowhere is a destination unknown, it's something like the depths, but another part of it. It's stagnation, unchanging, frozen water.Only through determination can you melt the ice, and change your fate.Glowing snow, frozen water, is static.
>>738001261Despite being le fever dream ending I don't expect Deltarune to go crazy. Even Undertale wasn't super crazy.
You think completing the weird route will end up "cursing" the regular route like what Geno did?Or maybe just getting at a certain point in the weird route will do so, even without completing it. What happens in chapter 4 feels like it could be the point of no return
>>737977940Would also be a nice callback to Flowey since it's what he tries to do in UT
>>737984918>there was no reason for him to do so, all the real controversy happened because of his responseI think he felt it was a direct attack at his persona for being uncaring towards hispanic fans, but the acknowledgement made everything worse becase it made him admit the one thing he could do (a translation), he won't, because he's not willing to compromise his autistic need to participate in the translation process.
>>738001679I hope not but it's likely, but only at the very end like it was in Undertale. Deltarune being episodic means Toby would fuck it up if he didn't allow you to get the best ending because you played the evil route too early.
>>737985005They don't have as much as people think they do. Fangamer are Toby's friends and Toby usually agrees with Materia's decisions. They aren't enemies unlike what the fandom thinks.
I don't know if replaying all chapters to obtain all the eggs is worth it.
>>737974005Asgore x Carol is like Kriselle if Kris was a deer and Noelle was a goat.
>>738002492Just wait to see what the reward is to replay it or not.
>>737985005Materia takes aggro for Toby, they generally go too far with claims but as far as what Toby has said over the years he does want to ensure profit from his music goes through to him
>>738002492i replayed chapter 4 to make sure i activated the pizzapants dialogue trigger
>>737982361Because it's another vague Gaster shit. I guess it's supposed to represent going somewhere unknown or not going anywhere at all.
>>738001963that's why it being chapter 4 would make sense. And explains why the game REALLY tries to have you not doing it.Like, to activate it, it needs you to>Already do everything related to it in chapter 2>Guess you can move the soul and go into Kris>Specifically pick answers which clearly are nefariousIt really feels like "You can only blame yourself for activating it"
>>738002492Eggs at most would be a boss, it's going to probably just be little lore crumbs
>>738002656What's that about
My wife is super cute!
I feels like being on console actively will block Toby from the most crazy original stuff DR could do like creating stuff in the files or more outside stuff (UT had a lot of cut content related to this)But Nintendo is his main platform now
>>737983703Nowhere seems to be the mythical land only non-existent people can go to. I think it's the only Gerson choice that changes in Snowgrave so it's probably related to it in someway as well.
>>738002715It's going to take years until Chapter 5-7 releases, I can't see Toby nuking a player from the gold ending because they decided to do the weird route years earlier. Especially since we didn't even know it would brick the save.
>>738002829The Switch is where the nips play UT/DR and we all know at this point that they're the main audience at this point.
>>737984918Toby probably thought he had to clarify he wasn't racist or hated his fans, but that completely backfired.
>>737991297I wonder how people would feel if Deltarune's ending requires the world to be destroyed and everyone dying.
>>738001679I feel like the weird route will at worst waste your time by force resetting you back to the beginning until you play the game the ''correct'' way. Mby drive the ''your choices don't matter'' point home idkPeople would probably find a way to circumvent a cursed save file like they did with geno day 1 anyway
>>737984918hes based for basically giving them nothing, but yeah responding in the first place was incredibly stupidhe TANKED all other controversies/bitch fits by saying nothing for all of these years, why start now? his rep actually took a hit in south america
>>737961027>>737982327>>738000080Chisk is just a tumblr meme that was made the protagonist of Undertale repainted.
>>737982361>>737985131>>737985919I do expect Deltarune's whole story to basically be mix of coming of age, building your own fate and the power of friendship, which personally I think it's kind of lame but also not surprising. At least there's the Weird Route, which I do find more interesting. I mean, yeah the Weird Route is probably going to be "wow you fucked everything up good job", but even so it's still a bit more interesting than the normal route.
>>738002795This but my wives
>>737969810eh, they're not so bad until the avatarfags and their accompanying schizos show up to derail everything into off-site dramafagging
>>738003721Knowing what type of person Toby is, a racism accusation is one of the worst things that you could do to him, seeing that a non-insignificant amount of people were accusing him of that, he panicked, and hurriedly wrote the bluesky post, without stopping to think and releasing that releasing this statement would just be adding more fuel to the fire.
>>738004793Posting characters you don't like isn't avatarfagging, wannabe janny.
>>738004968I don't know what you're talking about. Why so defensive?
>>737953604Gaster is just tobertverse Zelretch, the sword will be related to him or The Core maybe but he won't show up outside of egging (You) on in text form only
>>738002795It's crazy how Kralsei is a garbage ship with male Kris but significantly improves if it's female Kris
>>738004995It's just that there's no real avatarfagging in these threads my man.
>>738005150Then how would you define avatarfagging? Posting the same exact images dozens and dozens of times with a recognizable posting style sure seems like avatarfagging to me.
>>737985131>>737985919This is a good analysis. Although it's weird Toby's fever dream game is basically just about growing up. I guess he's just basic like that.
>>737963120>Friend inside me
>>738005228Because just posting an image a lot isn't avatarfagging, everyone currently in these threads do that, it's when you actively associate an identity with yourself and give yourself a name is when you do, which is something the schizo you mentioned tries to do with everyone that posts things he doesn't like.
>>738005248People think Toby will reinvent the wheel and create the wildest metanarrative ever where the character jumps out of the screen and kills you IRL
>>737984773In the end it's a good thing that Toby learned that sometimes making a response isn't the best thing. Beforehand everytime he made a response things calmed down. The current WAIT sucks but I still trust the dog.
Where's the dude that said we'd get a newsletter on the 1st of May? I wanna laugh.
>>738005006Goats in general fit better with female humans unless you're gay. But even so Kralsei is one of the weaker Kris ships imo no matter the gender.
Drop an insult on the ground and its owner will always come to pick it up.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/xTPHBOPtHx_PRCc2HwVFKA/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/WFTO98vytz6eorsdm3eolA/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/EV9Zz93q1xkDy9ukXivZ6Q/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/khR3tkwCaHrgFXQDG_75tA/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/B8noXijkF0pLdYYn6zjnjA/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/Eo4ubPQFWMcpfvDejGRyfw/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/LzTpYb0GvQLpv7X2hCWN0Q/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/gH2YLf4Yy0eVfy0wrAuuZA/For the record, I don't know/care if there is just one humanfag or multiple. All avatarfags are cancerous.>>738005354>the schizo you mentionedNobody believes you.
>>738003721>>738005554I think the funniest part is that even the people criticizing him for not translating the game are saying that it would have been better if he hadn't said anything. There's a recent video by a Spanish youtuber criticizing Toby and even he says that if Toby did not release the statement, the video wouldn't exist.
>May 1st.>JP localization should now be about done.We can't be that far off now, are we?
>>737986682The Weird Route. Finally seeing that Toby might pull a leg under us with the one ending stuff, the altered Queen's mansion and the solo Spamton NEO fight, that's when I knew this game was truly going to be special.
>>737985131>but the world refused to change
>>738006426It's gonna be August or September, so 3-4+ months left.
>>738006131Yeah, posting images you don't like isn't avatarfagging.>>the schizo you mentioned>Nobody believes you.>>738004793>and their accompanying schizosPlease be consistent when you're concern trolling.
>>738006597Posting images you like doesn't make it not avatarfagging just because you like them. You know that you're only allowed to do it because the jannies like that you make these threads unusable, right? >Please be consistent when you're concern trolling.Please learn how to read before using this website. While you're at it, familiarize yourself with global rule 13.
>>738006734The thread was fine before you came here and started to bitch about the characters you hate. I don't know who you're trying to fool, you want these threads on /vg/, you're just concern trolling.
>>738004626That but with my wife.
>>738006879>you want these threads on /vg/NTA and not to play devil's advocate, buuut, you guys explicitly have no news, no new content to talk about, the threads are a loop of the same images and conversations over and over... Why is it not on /vg/ exactly?
>>738005006Every Kris ship is better if Kris is a girl.
>>738006426There's really no way of knowing with Toby. Maybe testing is going great and it's going to be out any day now, or maybe they're still porting and testing hasn't even started yet. Maybe we're one month away, maybe we're six months away.
>>738004793>the pedoschizo says thisThe irony.
It's hilarious how you can't even mention the concept of avatarfagging without a humanfag rushing in to claim "actually there is no avatarfagging in these threads" and "even if there is it actually it doesn't count because it just doesn't" etc. etc. Almost like someone's feeling called out. I wonder why that is? Most people can post pictures of characters they like without being an attention whore about it. Most people are smart enough to not post the same images in every single thread, or at least use the filename randomizer. It's almost like the person(s) posting these images WANT to be recognized. I wonder if there's a word for that... using an image as a kind of online persona/identifier...
>>738006426There's still a few months left. Probably August or September. Get used to WAITing
>>738007038lolis...
>>738007006I'm the one making threads but videogame discussion on /v/ isn't against the rules. It's that simple.>>738007358Because you only bitch about human images. Ironically I'm a "humanfag" but have posted the same Noelle/Dess and other characters with the same filename but yet you never bitch about it because only a human image makes it avatarfagging to you.
>>738007625*I'm not the oneForgot the not. My entire point got BTFO'D...
>>737962581Maaaaybe very late May, but I wouldn't bank on anything before June.
>>738003721Everytime Toby made a response things got better and the fanbase was happy, Toby probably thought that would never backfire.
Krusie a best
Post your ideas/theories you held pre-chapter 3+4 that got 100% completely killedfor me>DEVICE_FRIEND is a complete red herring and is just a creepy spamton related sprite>penumbra phantasm is a song that will exist in Deltarune and not just rot half finished on tobys hard drive
>>738007054>There's really no way of knowing with Toby.Truest statement of the century. Now that we're past April and the translation QA's expected window of completion has passed, any speculation about the state of development is entirely in the air.>The Japanese translation must be complete before the console ports can begin.>Toby hasn't said anything about the translation's status, and likely won't on the morning of the first day after its work window.>Translation could either:>Be completed ahead of time and console ports already underway.>Only now just finished (or in a review period stretched out to April 30th), with console ports either just beginning or in early states.>Or have completely blown past its window and start on the ports being delayed.I really hope that we get a newsletter by this month because we're in the dark and no longer have a confident answer about the state of development. It used to be "the Japanese translation is undergoing quality assurance by the end of April", but now it's "who the fuck knows?">>738007519We're only about two months away from it being the second half of 2026 (starting July 1st), where Toby said the chapter would release. Given that the only things on the bill for development were its TL, console ports, and bug fixing; the lack of new console ports or LTS tests; and the fact it's only 1 (one) single chapter. I think a July release is POSSIBLE (and with the heaviest of fucking emphasis on POSSIBLE), but I still wouldn't bet on it. Still, by the time DELTARUNE TOMORROW Season: Part Deux rolls around, it might come out a LOT sooner than we think.
>>738006985Based fellow humanbro.>>738007038I wouldn't agree with that completely, Kress and Krusie are better with male Kris in my opinion.>>738007551We love lolis here.
>>738008118Each chapter we're going to have a new lightner show up in the Dark World in the same style as 2. Rip Catti and Jockington.
>>738008501we'll see more of them at some point, jockington still needs to grow that beard
>>738008759Yeah, but they won't have a Berdly type role. Also, I think the thread is auto-saging.
>>737995428I just want to actually know what his deal was. The experiment, why he's in Deltarune, his connection to Sans and Papyrus. If Toby does that I will be satisfied.
>autosagegay
Yeah, the thread is auto-saging. I'm going to blame the wannabe janny schizo for this.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/tWaPETYAcnmXEhbCoelTLw/nooticing
>>738009374yes anon there are two humanfags here and yes he does spam the same handful of images towards the same five events, where are you going with this
>>738009374Yes, schizo, I post that when the thread is auto-saged, usually it's your fault.>>738009545I wonder if he would bitch if it was janny Noelle or another furry girl.
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I LOVE FEMKRIS!!!
>>738010023Oh damn, I only just noticed the auto-sage, rip. Praying we get a newsletter so we can at least get ONE day to discuss the game unbothered when the Jannies aren't busy making audiovisual threads.
