What were they thinking with these stats?
>>737961540first boss pleb pokemonthat is literally just a wall for Charmanfag onlySquirtle chads could never
>>737961540Fuck you and your tackle/scratch spam that brought you so far, use a special move or gtfo.
pvp was an afterthought until gen 4
>>737961540he exists solely to make charmander players' lives mildly more difficult and I love him for that
>>737961679Special type move*Stupid zoomer
>>737961540Gen 1 was an RPG first and a battle simulator a distant second. Onix is designed to be a first boss that counters tackle spam, he's not designed to be actually strong.
>>737961707When did you realize that Fire Type is shit and that Water Type is overpowered and often must be present in every party to beat the game?Grass is mid, Fire is overrated, Water is always useful.Ground type is where it's at, Ground shits on Fire super badly with Earthquake, it shits on like half the types in pokemon in fact...
Anonymous used Bubble!
I had way more trouble with starmie bubble beaming my ass over and over that shit felt unfair
>>737961904
>>737961540At the end of the day, it's a JRPG and Onix is the first boss. It wasn't balanced for PVP.
>>737962197>>737961684Why do trannies keep bringing up PVP? I'm talking about how stupid its stats are for PVE
>>737961679It's funny because the only special moves you can obtain before beating Brock outside of the starters in Red/Blue is confusion (and that takes a small amount of grinding caterpie to butterfree
>>737962242literally just to be a wall for Charmander because Pokemon 1 hates Charmander. And they are right to, fuck off with that faggot pick Squirtle it's way faster, it goes through all the content like its nothing, literally never struggles.
>>737962242because its stats arent stupid for pve at all and they make perfect sense to showcase rock type defenses so I assumed you werent retarded and meant pvp
>its a charmander wall!>has no rock moves and will die to ember faster than anything other than maybe confusionsecondaries...
>>737961540The ultimate tank
>>737961540Fun fact, Onix is one of the only Gen 1 "fully evolved" Pokemon who can't learn Hyper Beam from TM15The only other Gen1s to share that honor is Farfecth'd, Hitmonchan/lee, and Ditto
>>737962346It doesn't matter. Brock's Pokemon in gen 1 have low Special and no rock/ground moves.
>>737962550And if they had any rock moves, they'd probably have 70% accuracy anywayFucking hate that
>>737962550then you get your ass clapped by misty's starmie
>>737962346>wallPokemon is made to be beaten by 1 year olds.
>>737962689Just use Pikachu
>>737961540It's the first boss so it can't be too strong. Honestly they should have just hardcoded it so Onix has reduced stats during the Brock fight instead of making its HP and attack permanently shit.
A pokemon to teach the player that physical attack isn't always the answer.
>>737962732he has a full heal? huh never kknew that
>>737962689Either you're fighting every battle with your starter and outlevel everything or you have other decently leveled pokemon which can deal with a type disadvantage.Either way, it's impossible to lose.
I often would try to get a steelix so I'd use onix a fair bit. He is quite shit, but for being a physical defensive monster he is actually quite fast. I think even among more modern generations of rock types he still isn't a slouch. Gradually I came to find beeg rok snek my favorite pokechu.
>>737962907Yeah, anon reloaded his save until he got the lucky RNG where Brock wasted turns on full heals
>>737961540Brock was a fucking bully. Barely any pokemon capable of bypassing him in the neighbor areas of the city and not every kid has a prof Oak giving out good pokemons
>>737962937>steelixI still think adding steel to mons is the easiest way to make them 10000% cooler
>>737961540Why not catch Onix? Why does no one use Onix?
>>737962954>luckThey are guaranteed to use it on a burn tard muffin.Besides you can just use potions. Onix has shit attack even with screech lowering defense.
>>737963036>They are guaranteed to use it on a burnGEE IT'S ALMOST LIKE I WAS REFERRING TO THE RANDOM BURN CHANCE GEE GOLLY
>>737962851Did the pre-split games even explain the difference between physical and special? I certainly never knew it. It was just vibes. I also didn't understand why Kingler sucked so bad.
>>737962151>>737961904
>>737962732He's the rock boss, he should have said "I took you for granite"They had one job
>>737963034Same reason nobody uses Chansey or Wobbuffet.. There's no point in using a Pokemon that can barely attack. The games are too simple to require anything but pure offense.
>>737961540>big =/= strongLesson for kids.
>>737961540They were cowards.
>>737961626>imagine not trading the other two starters to complete the pokedex from the start
>>737961540They were thinking of making a wall for the first gym and nothing else. That is the stats they wanted for Onix because it would make it difficult to face with any of the starters if you were lower level and give you a good tutorial for type advantages and weakness.
>>737963091No, it never told you. It also never explained STAB, pokemon games hate telling the player how anything works.
>>737963209>Onix's defining features are massive defence and decent speed>This thing removes both of those to dump everything into HPMaybe this Onix is "better", but it's lost all of its identity. Soulless compfag slop.
>>737963031>steel is coolMy fellow african. Out of curiosity, what is your general opinion on digimon anon?
>>737961684it's still an afterthought
>>737963469Watched a bit but not a lot of it as a kid, my favorite actually was MetalGreyMon or whatever the lil fire dinosaur's evolution was calledI played Rumble Arena a lot
>>737963456>muh identity
>>737962468It wasn't about Charmander not being able to take it. It was just that lower level Pokemon wouldn't have a move that would hurt it enough to take it out and Brock's Onix is at level 13. It just means that impatient people will be facing the Gym with underleveled Pokemon, unless they just use their starter for the entire time through Viridian Forest. Charmander gets Ember at level 9, compared to Squirtle with Bubble at 8. The real kick in the teeth is Bulbasaur getting only Leech Seed at 7, which does get around Bide if Brock wants to spam it, but doesn't really help much compared to Vine Whip at 13.
>>737963621Actually I think my favorite in Rumble Arena was the metal wolf that shoots missiles
>>737961540They need to reinvent him. Like after a 1000 sheds in a specific environment/region, they become a diamond skinned variant with its own 1 stage.
>>737961540doesn't make sense that onix has just awful attack
>>737963091Yes
When did they start making the first gym only have pokemon you can find in that area? Like gen 3?
>>737963794>A and B typeREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>737963794>Only Ghost type move that does direct damage is Night Shade>An attack that only deals a constant 20 damage>Put Ghost in the Physical attack typeWhat? Gamefreak are massive retards.
>>737963091>>737963794Also in Stadium 2>>737963879kek
>>737963965lyl
>>737963965This isn't true, there will be multiple attempts if you use saves.
>>737963917>have to buy an entirely separate game just to learn the basics of the game
>>737963901>An attack that only deals a constant 20 damageThat's sonicboom not night shade, night shade does damage equal to your level
>>737963965They couldn't have used a pic of one of these once in a life time encounters? This is almost as bad as telling people to use Master Ball on Fearow
>>737964032That's aditional (and fun challenges), this >>737963794 is from gen 1
>>737964034>look it up on bulbapedia>Night Shade is not affected by type immunities, so it can hit both Normal-type and Psychic-type Pokémon, both of which have immunities to Ghost-type moves in Generation I. >psychic was immune to ghostFOR FUCKING YEARS I HAVE WONDERED WHY I ALWAYS THINK PSYCHIC IS SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST GHOSTTURNS OUT IT'S ME MISREMEMBERING A COMPLETELY RETARDED IMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING IN THE GEN IT'S FROM
the pokemon that got shat on most by Onix was beedrill there is literally nobody in their right mind who'd choose to use beedrill over butterfree thanks to onix
>>737964171the reason you're thinking that is because the gen 1 ghost types are also poison and thus weak against psychic
>>737964179What a retarded post, just use one of your other pokeymen to beat Onix then?>no one would ever use Pikachu, it sucks against Onix
>>737964171>using bulbapedo
>>737964179>Butterfree gets confusion as soon as it evolved>Beedrill gets Focus Attack to give it more chance to critMan, Beedrill really got the short end of the stick until its Mega and even then that thing is a glass cannon that gets beaten be even mid tier Pokemon.
I always loved onix as a kid but GF will never buff him
>>737961626>muh starters is a difficulty setting Were the american kids really so retarded they trained nothing except their starter?
>>737963091>TRAINER TIPS>GUARD SPEC. protects POKEMON against SPECIAL attacks such as fire and water! Get your items at CELADON DEPT. STORE!Maybe try talking to the NPC/Signs more often
>>737961897Fire is one of the most powerful offensive typings out there which is literally all that matters for single player
My current Platinum team>Prinplup>Starraptor>Croagunk>Luxray>Ponyta>GabitePlease rateI just beat Iron Island, mite switch one of these out and get Scizor
>>737964373>such asthanks, I didn't need to know the others
>>737961540It was designed as a boss before it was designed as a party member, and that was okay because gen 1 was full of shitmons you were meant to collect instead of actually seriously using.
>>737961626>30 special in gen 1>charmander has 50 special and STAB on emberIt's a level check, making sure you actually use whatever special move your starter learns before evolving >>737964370What else is that uses a special attack before Mt. Moon other than butterfree, which is a relatively rare encounter in Red that needs to be power leveled
>>737964256because generally speaking most people won't bother running 2 early bug types on the same team, so they're going to look for which is most usefuland butterfree is both vastly more useful immediately AND just flat out superior thanks to it's drastically better moveset like, who's going to bother grinding a weedle on wild pokemon to evolve it when the prize you get for it is "just" a beedrill which is useless against brock?>>737964324Don't forget butterfree gets sleep powder super early in the gen where it's busted beyond belief
>>737964417>sinnohfetus
>>737964542No problem little buddy here they are >>737963794
>>737964370>they trained nothing except their starter?If they did, they'd never have a single problem regardless of what starter they picked. That was always the case with mainline Pokemon.
>>737964590>>charmander has 50 special and STAB on emberokay, and onix resists fire but is 4x weak to grass and water
>>737964324>Beedrill gets Focus Attack to give it more chance to crithey wanna know the funny thingin gen 1 using focus energy reduces your chance to crit rather than increase it
>>737964672>implying it matterssee >>737962732
>>737964609If you're a le metagamer who only goes by strongest mons, you won't use Butterfree anywayA fucking bee with hand stinger drills is way cooler
>>737961626>that is literally just a wall for Charmanfag onlywith a low special stat like that? forget it
>>737964686They fixed it on stadium 1 where it works like it should and that's why they ran the tournaments there
>>737964370Nintendo didn’t even want to release Pokemon in America because they thought kids would be too stupid for a text heavy game.
>>737964370The whole logic falls apart if you solely train your starter because it'll get so much EXP that it can overlevel and triumph any could-be roadblocks.Charmeleon has a surprisingly easy time with Misty because she's likely to waste turns using worthless items on Starmie in Gen 1, and in FRLG you'll probably be around Level 30 and have the benefit of being able to slap its shit with a couple of Mega Punches/Kicks thanks to the new move tutors.
>>737962151Imagine being on 4channel and posting an image that censors the word "shit". What kind of mental disorder warrants such inexplicable behavior?
>>737964370>american kidswe don't do that IN GERMANYIN GERMANY we used RATTFRATZ UND SMETTBO UND SCHLURP
>>737964802The mental disorder of "I don't have that comic saved so I googled onix bubble comic and there were no other good results"
>>737964739buttefree has a section of the game where it's legitimately goodbeedrill is just endless disappointment even 6 year old me realized beedrill was arse
>>737964835Well I hope you find the help you need, brother.
>>737964892I don't think I will, google image search nowadays is dogshit for finding shit like that. It used to be 30 different hosts for the same file, but now it's censored shit, some twitter or instagram post I can't access, some facebook image that's just a thumbnail, and a million unrelated results
>>737964775misty is kinda hilariousif you get rotten luck and she does nothing but spam bubblebeam she can tear your team a new assholebut usually she's too retarded to do thatsimilarly, if the AI actually knew what to do, this legit would be one of the hardest fights in the game because unless you've got a geodude on you, everything in your team is getting one or 2 shot by hyper fang including an overleveled starter
>>737964373I like how that's completely wrong.
>>737965046Hyperfang is one of those moves that only exists to fuck over the player
>>737965064How so?
>>737961540They were thinking this would be a good pokemon to teach young kids the importance of type advantage for the first boss. They were not thinking that this game would spawn the most profitable media ip of all time so they weren't concerned with what the competive meta of this pokemon would be in 30 years
>>737965046This same logic is why it's actually possible to tolerate any iterations of Alakazam, despite being THE most deadly Pokemon to anything that isn't a fellow psychic you'll probably just smack it dead before it starts spamming Psychic because it's wasting turns with Reflect, Recover or Psybeam.
>>737965098Guard spec stops your stats from being lowered by moves like growl. It doesn't provide a defense buff for special moves.
>>737965190The hardest battle ever was a random ace trainer on Kanto route 1 in Heartgold cause my entire team was underlevelled and he just spammed psybeam
>>737964370Silver was my first pokemon game, and this is what I did with Cyndaquil, until I caught Lugia, then I used him now and againI steamrolled everything with zero effort thanks to being ridiculously overleveled compared to everything else
>>737965078it makes rattata pretty decent early game, but yes in this particular case due to this illegally low level raticate it is just breaking your team wide openyou know if the AI was smart enough to realize a raticate will outspeed anything else this level and doesn't need to halve it's damage with quick attack
>>737965204True, they probably mistook it with X Special
>>737964370>>737964773good morning saaaaar
>>737964773Not really, they absolutely wanted to see if the Pokemon cash cow would hit America like it did in Japan. They just correctly recognized that American kids were more enamored with cartoons and trading cards, and thus localization put huge emphasis on hyping up the anime and TCG while going "there's also a videogame!" to the side.
>>737961540>make boss shiton>give it an evolution>give it a mega evolution>still a shitmonsteelix could have done with a third evoltion
>>737962732>filenamethings nobody has ever said ever
>>737965190similarly with victreebell honestly if the AI was smart enough to know to just sleep spam you to death (and it always has sleep powder ) it would be a nightmare, but luckily it doesn't
>>737965190instead sabrina just makes it use psywave for literally 0 damage most of the time
>>737965472isn't steelix kinda good though?
>>737965640steelix was pretty good in the earlier gens, it kinda fell off even with a mega because no reliable recovery
>>737965640in lower smogon tiers or limited selection formats it's okay75HP 65SPDEF doesn't really go well with 30SPD and no good recovery85ATK also isn't enough to threaten things offensively, sure you have EQ but so does half of the dex
Well no shit all mainline games are easy as balls, that's why you play spinoffs like stadium to get a real challenge
>>737965748it's pretty bad in doubles though which is the main competitive format these days
>>737965760Or rom hacks.
It's really hard to go back to the old Pokemon games because 90% of the Pokemon suck donkey dick. You just end up making the same teams every time with minor variation. I get that was part of the design, to make it feel more special when you got a rare powerful Pokemon but it kills replayability because you're like yeah I could technically use Ekans but I would be gimping myself for no reason.
>>737965760the funny thing is there's still a non-zero amount of people who cling to whitney's miltank as this apparent mechanically impossible turbofilter only beatable by mass overlevelling or the traded machop
>>737965831most of the early route 'mons in all games suck dickthe only time the game gave you a legit top-tier pokemon on the first route was gen 4
>>737965830Yeah roomhacks are pretty good too>>737965845Yup, a simple sand-attack making it not it consecutive rollouts its all you need
>>737965831Yeah, only emerald and platinum of the "early" mainline games are replayable nowadays because of the additional contentOtherwise, there's not much choice yet and most pokemon you'd come across you know either are too slow yet can't take a hit, or are too limited in their ability to KO anythingcamerupt is decent offensively but it's going second all of the time and that means you're sitting through it getting hit or debuffed repeatedly
>>737963239Nostalgia hit hard after looking at this image. I miss those little bros like you wouldn't believe.
>>737965473Why would you lie when we have an archive?
>>737965845Just do a thematic run
Onix should get a pre-evo and its stats redistributed along with Steelix for the hell of it, or give it a split evo that keeps the rock typing.
>>737965973early pokemon variety of FRLG honestly is not that badit would be better if you could actually evolve zubat into crobat but oh well
>>737966091Could give it an ability like sand trap like its surrounding the opponent
>>737965845whitney is easy to cheese when you know what she's doing. the people who found her hard were either using a quilava or a bug type
>>737966075i did that a couple timessadly the novelty wore off halfway through the run and i would just restart and do it another waylevelling both beautifly and dustox became a chore when neither of them performed very well and died to the same things
>>737966075scyther in R/B is hilariously terribleit only learns normal type moves, it's a bad persian
>>737961626>he failed the iq test of trying ember
>>737966178pinsir is just as bad. the way scizor was en evo for scyther, heracross should have been an evo for pinsir
>>737966171Talking about gen 3? How about finishing all the battle facilites in emerald?>>737966156Bug is ok
>>737966154Yeah, give it something viable. All Gen I Pokemon should have minimum two split evos or something that lets them stand up to later gens. Gen I shilling isn't going to stop so they may as well go crazy with it.
>>737966292pinsir at least can be taught submission and gets guillotine to bail it outand yes I know that's peak faint praise but it's more than what's afforded to scyther
>>737966351i beat factory, pyramid and pike dome and tower didn't really have a gimmick so those were boring to me and after a couple random losses i lost motivation to trypalace was one i had to look up onand apparently the natures i had on my pokemon at the time were directly at odds with what i was trying to do with them
>>737966456just give gen 1 pokemon better abilities or unique moves that aren't terriblehalf the power of later gen pokemon comes from crazy unique abilities or moves
>>737966552So you gave up, ok
>this kills dragonsmake it make sense
>>737966709yeah pretty muchit didn't help that palace enemies would always use the right move and would never skip their turn
>>737966819One mythological creature taking down another mythological creature. I like that someone called the Fairy-type a 'troll' type and actual fairies in folklore are supposed to be like that too.
>>737966824No shit why would a challenge made for pro players be made easy? Its like complaining that stadium games are hard, that's the point
>>737966824in the battle frontier, there was a guy who had a lapras that knew sheer cold, fissure, horn drill, and whatever else. it OHKOed me 3 times in a row
>>737967013there's nothing hard about getting killed by a quick claw sheer cold, you can't account for that and you can't do counterplays to that
>>737967013it wasn't really specified as such, you'd assume that every frontier challenge is overall equal difficulty but with some extra gimmick to itpalace is just>what if tower, but if you didn't have enough badges for your pokemon to obey youwhich falls apart once you realise the enemy does not have the same restrictionit's like if noland had a set team with moves different to the rentals
>>737967085Complaining about luck on a luck based game?Just try again, get something with sturdy, focus band, etc
>>737967264pokemon has random elements to it, but they're not intended to hold center stageash wanted to be the greatest pokemon trainer of all time, not the luckiest pokemon trainer
>>737967264focus band literally does not work against OHKO you retard and putting in luck based oneshots into an endurance challenge is frankly the definition of artificial difficulty
I usually hate fangames that make the game harder but idk why, Blue Kaizo hits all the right spot for me, despite being harder than the base game. Its fun to use all the quirks of Gen 1 and have a game designed around it, like Hyper Beam being able to recharge any time you OHKO some pokemon.Anyone here tried it?
>>737967349Ash probably has more luck than any other trainer, that's a bad example>>737967425Its literal rng, just try again, all moves have rng, damage range, crit chance, miss chance if you use brightpowder, etc
>>737962242Nothing has stupid stats for pve you retard.
>>737967689there's a major difference between those and quick claw sheer cold hitting youyou can account for crits or misses, but you can't account for just an opponent going first and oneshotting you through a 3% chance designing a pokemon that only works 3% of the time is peak fake difficulty, as a player it would be utterly retarded to build your pokemon that wayin any other game a 3% auto win for an opponent would be rightfully considered shit design, why defend it here?
>>737968154Because you're winning 97% of the time, why complain about luck? If anything you could get a run in wich you never, ever encounter the ohko team at all.
>>737967425NTA but I would get a Quick Claw Misdreavus with destiny bond. Might help.
>>737961540it's literally a pile of rocks
>>737963171Chansey is pretty fucking good in Gen 1
>>737968297and that's the definition of fake difficultyno decision you make matters, all that matters is if the game tosses the insta-loss button at you or not
>>737969181Yeah you said that already, that's rng on a rng game
>>737963663The problem is the game punishes you for trying to balance a team before the first gym
>>737964992>>737964802Zoomers and newfags, eat your heart out
>>737964590>What else is that uses a special attack before Mt. MoonPikachu
>>737970261>electric type>against two ground typesI mean youre technically not wrong
>>737961626>first boss pleb pokemonExplain why the final boss has two of them
>>737963091no, i only learned it from an item in mystery dungeon
>>737961540Literally they were thinking>lmao get rekt noobs enjoy your first bossIt was designed to teach kids the difference between physical and special elements but they bungled it.
>>737961739You're being more specific but that anon wasn't even wrong you asswhole
>>737966819Just because Normal types can learn Ice Beam doesn't mean they shouldI stopped after XY so fairy to me is basically noncanon
>>737966819Moon tech, ain't gonna explain shit
>>737970725because that team is retardedPOLIWRATH AND PRIMEAPE ARE RIGHT THERE YOU HACKS
>>737964417>>PonytaBased
>>737962732>level 12>he overleveled
>>737964370>Were the american kids really so retarded they trained nothing except their starter?yes. They trained what looked cool, nothing looked cool in the 1st area before Brock.
>>737966819how come no one noticed clefairy was immune to dragon types until gen 6? was everyone just dumb?
>>737971978Hell clefairy didnt even realize it was actually immune to dragon. Its one of those instances where it doesnt have any effect until observed
>>737971978Retcon. Clefairy has "always" been a Fairy Type, there was never a sudden shift where it went from Normal to Fairy in-universe.It's the same kind of retcon as "there are no longer real world animals in the Pokemon World" or "Mew was no longer discovered in the jungle of South America", they'd just rather pretend X has always been X instead of ever being Y at a given point.
>>737966075Team of Jews. All Hypnos, Team Israelname them: Schlomo, Goldberg, Silverstein, Wichowitz, Goodman, Netanyahu
>>737961540gen 1 pokemon was a simpler world where balance issues weren't important and every pokemon felt distinct
>>737972309>and every pokemon felt distinctLike Pidgeot, Fearow and Farfetch'd all being worse versions of Dodrio?
>>737972309Pidgey and Spearow?Jigglypuff and Clefairy?
>>737972406>noooooo you can only have one pokemon of each typing or it's not distinct
The AI sucks so much in these games that it doesn't even matter
>>737963901Also the only Dragon move in Gen 1 was Dragon Rage, which always deals 40 damage.
>>737963901You forgot Lick. Lick is also a Ghost move, which is why the type is physical to begin with.
>>737962763>It's the first boss so it can't be too strong.But why does Geodude get base 80 attack then?
>>737973883Because it's the one you're actually meant to use as a party member later, and its best move on Brock's team is Non-STAB Tackle.
>>737966819Should've made Steel strong against Dragon instead and skipped adding Fairy entirely.
>>737961540>Make cool pokemon design>It gets dog shit stats EVERY SINGLE TIME
>>737965927>most of the early route 'mons in all games suck dickI'm not talking about only early route mons. Red and Blue have so many fucking nonviable Pokemon. It's because in the old games Pokemon had very few move options so there's a very good chance your Pokemon simply learned no good moves and was utterly useless.
Nintendo Power's strategy for people stuck with Charmander: Raise Pikachu to Level 16, where it learns Quick Attack, and use that instead of any other pokemon.
>>737975903or just use charmander anyway because lol STAB
>>737975617>nonviableYou can beat the game with just about any team if you actually somewhat try. You're not entering a fucking tournament.>there's a very good chance your Pokemon simply learned no good moves and was utterly uselessThis is what the TMs are for.
>>737975903Why not Nidoran?
>>737975617Lets see for viable mons R/B, routes up to Misty>R1- Rattata learns hyper fang incredibly early carries it until around surge>R2- Caterpie into Butterfree has confusion and sleep powder to carry it quite far, probably won't bench it until your starter fully evolves- Nidoran male, horn attack is plenty strong and you can get it up to Nidoking as early as mt moon, learns every TM under the sun and can abuse the horn drill trick, favorite of speedrunners everywhere for a reason>R22- Spearow evolves early enough into his final form he's debatable, you'll bench him once you get dodrio which is much later, but learns drill peck way too late, a tossup>VF- Pikachu: your only source of electric type moves for a long while, fast decently strong, not half bad>R3- Magikarp: yes it's worth grinding him to lv 20>Mt Moon- Clefairy: does everything jigglypuff wants to do but better, can be safely evolved immediately into clefable when it learns sing, good recipient of the water gun TM- Geodude: gets rock throw early, resisting normal is incredibly good given how arse gen 1 movesets are >R4- Sandshrew debatably, sand attack + slash and early evolution help it out>R24- Oddish/Bellsprout: grass moves, sleep powder, decently strong, leaf stone is easily available in this gen- Abra: you grind it to lv 16 and you have one of the strongest pokemon in the game, can be immediately evolved again if you have a buddyNot too bad a selection honestly
>>737978992Neither Nidoran gets any moves that do real damage to Geodude or Onix in RGB, it's only in Yellow where they get Double Kick in time for it to matter.Either way for RGB it's all a nonissue. Charmander is unfathomably safe to use because they don't know rock moves in RGBY, and as long as you're not a retard you can avoid getting annihilated by Bide.
Post your gym team.
>>737979450>legendary on a gym teaminstant Z score
>>737963239Nostalgia aside I always see myself as having the three starters as a trainer >Charmander Found as an egg after parents were chased off by hunters>SquirtleBecame friends during Squirtle line migration and chose to be with us >Bulbasaur Abandoned by trainer after a gym loss, then befriended and beat that gym leader with him
>>737961540>>737966091
>>737976514>>737978992>>737979194Or just use Butterfree with Confusion.
>>737979730Heatran isn't even that rare.
>>737961540wrap prevents the opponent from attacking and does % damage
>>737979778very trans-coded backstory.
>>737965046>if you get rotten luck and she does nothing but spam bubblebeam she can tear your team a new assholeshe did that literally every time i played the game. I've never seen her not just spam bubblebeam.
>>737961707I remember being mildly annoyed as a kid that they gave Charmander Metal Claw in FRLG because it defeated the point of Onix forcing Charmander players to catch a 2nd pokemon.
>>737965473Gens 1-5 with the exception of 2 are notably harder than the rest of the series. They're still easy, but they aren't pissbaby easy like 6 onwards.
>>737975903>>737978992This guide is infamous for having terrible advice and anime logic in it.
>manchildren complaining about tiny design details of a 30 year old kids game, the first in its series that they had no idea would be popular I hope somebody got fired for that blunder!
Okay, Anons, GF can finally free themselves from the shackles of Nintendo, but only if their new Pokémon Colosseum game is a multi-billion-dollar hit. You are the head director of the project, and you have a $ 100,000 budget. What do?Hard mode: You can only use 150 PokémonEvil mode: Nintendo has three uses of veto powers Impossible mode: It must be universally fun.
>>737979939At least it's different from Ash's every starter he's ever had has a story, and is this just because of my trainer? I did what I could with the limited male options
>>737979985>Lvl 13 0 SpA 10 IVs Charmander Ember vs. Lvl 14 0 HP 10 IVs / 0 SpD 10 IVs Onix: 5-6 (14.2 - 17.1%) -- possible 6HKO>Lvl 13 0 Atk 10 IVs Charmander Metal Claw vs. Lvl 14 0 HP 10 IVs / 0 Def 10 IVs Onix: 6-8 (17.1 - 22.8%) -- possible 5HKOIt's really funny that metal claw isn't even that much better and with Onix actually having a rock type move in gen 3 it's genuinely harder to use Charmander in the remakes despite the metal claw
>>737970725goddamn hitmonchan is so worthless pre-split
>>737975903Why not catch Fearow with a Master Ball?
>>737980179*$100,000,00Meant that. lol Don't think any modern game can make it on that small budget.
>>737964370uh yeah, kids want to play with their favorite toys and make it work, not win at all costs
>>737963917looking at this reminded me I wanted to try all the stuff I can do with my post game pokemon team in Stadium 1 and 2, but I rather play Pokemon Fire Red than just Red (because I am tired of playing just regular Red). And I'm a lil sad I can't transfer backwards to use a Fire Red team in Stadium 1 or 2
>>737980179You mean Nintendo is freed from dragging the ball and chain that is GF right?Regardless, multi-billion is just too hard considering a 70 dollar tag would still need 30million copies sold, but here is my shot>you can catch and transfer pokemon from this>the are multiple new pokemon, regular shinnies and exclusive new shinny forms to it>some of them dont breedThis drags a good portion of the fanbase>re-use models from the poke character gatcha>date-mechanics with them>there is dlc for the girls outfitsThats the waifu+dlc>next championship will be played with this gameGot the vgc crowd>tons of easy to make content with the recycled stuff we have, like unlockable characters to play as online, many gauntlets inspired by the older games, both mainline and spin-offs, etc...For the good word of mouthI thinks thats as far as i can push, dont know if its enough for 30mil.
