This alone killed any interest i had in nintendo as a company
>>737962895you dont have to buy game key cards
>>737963061commendable that you go out of your way to reward physical releases.
>>737963061You are still missing a few like Majogami.
>>737963061Whaaaaat! Wait a minute, Bravely Default got a real game card card?
>>737963061For now
>>737963061>11 gay keycards>no Kirby Air Riders
>>737962895...
>>737962895I hate nintendo too, but this outrage over GKCs makes no sense to me.It's a console. You never owned shit in the first place. If you were okay with every console since the fucking NES having increasingly intrusive DRM, you should have no problem with GKCs either since they're nothing new. Consolecattle have no right to demand rights now when you've been happily owning nothing for decades.If you truly gave a shit about ownership, you'd be on PC and either pirate or buy and crack all your games.
>>737963681Unpopular opinion, but I feel good about detachable disk drives once I snapped it into my PS5, knowing I can just swap it if something unlucky happens to it.
Eric, you lost.
>>737963572This game's existence is beyond baffling. Nobody even cared about the first one outside of “that game you rented for a weekend” or “your cousin happened to have it and you messed around for a few hours”
It'd be nice if you could buy non-keycard versions of those games for a higher price
>>737962895>This alone killed any interest i had in nintendo as a companyall your interest was a profound hate for it and that seems to be intact, snoy moment
>>737963863the only perk of consoles these days is exclusive software and some phyical media you can put on a shelf, gkcs destroy the latter imo
>>737964124Keep giving Kiketendo more ideas>$70 for GKC version>$90 for the actual gameTendies would gladly pay the retard tax
Consoles are for small children you can't trust with a computer. Key cards perfectly align with that.
>>737964250>>$70 for GKC version>>$90 for the actual gameJesus. as it stands now, The Zelda ports, Kirby Riders and Metroid 4 should be $40 realistically.
>>737963863>Go to store >Buy ps2 game>Comes on a disk >Full game>No internet required >Somehow I don't own this because anon says soIt's not 5th grade anymore retard
>>737964119keep saying itit's still the only game for the switch 2 worthwhile
>Introduces 80$ games>Locks content/dlc behind 30 dollar amiibos>Raises price of physical games>Increases price of Switch 1>C button on controller requires a credit card to use>Game Key Cards combine the worst of digital and physical to destroy game ownership
GKCs are a pro consumer response to anti consumer tech prices.It's better than digital. It's better than Steam.
>>737962895The fact code in a box releases still exist is embarrasing. Corpos have these shitty excuse of carts being too expensive, but no even paying for for a KWAB card?, that's turbo jewish
>>737966357code in a box is unironically better than incomplete discs / game keys. just digital without being tethered to a box and having the consoomer plastic subhumans care for
>>737964930that and the other dozen games I own too
>>737966795good luck selling it
>>737964930For me, its Bananza. But I actually just picked up Air Riders physically, and its kind of addicting
>>737966357Wait until you find out Steam and Epic exist where it's just a code with no box.Here's the best part: you support this :)
>>737965445>It's better than Steam.Literal cultist behavior. How is it better than Steam? Imagine if you had to re-type the cd key every time I wanted to launch a game on steam, that's literally what the kike cards are. Digital games but objectively worse because you're still forced to carry the game around instead of just picking the game from your home menu>b-b-bbut I can resell them because I am an underage poorfag I don't care about your brown skin
>>737963863Is it so hard to wrap your head around people not wanting to download a whole ass game when they buy a physical release?
>>737962895The introduction of the Wiimote should have killed any interest anyone had in nintendo as a company.
>>737967126>How is it better than Steam?You own something versus owning nothing. Let me know if my explanation needs further clarification. >Imagine if you had to re-type the cd key every time I wanted to launch a game on steam, that's literally what the kike cards areWait, so you're saying the only drawback to owning my media is that I have it? Sign me up!
>>737962895First party games are on real game cards and that's basically the only thing switch 2 has going for it.
>>737967239wii sports + resort is one of the best video games ever made, so Im not sure what gotcha you think you made here
>>737967194Literally yes, and you're objectively an underage retarded nigger if you think otherwiseIt's far more efficient to just throw the damn thing to the garbage if you don't want it anymore instead of going through the extra mile just so you can resell it at 10% market value>>737967278>You own something versus owning nothingYou don't own shit regardless. Once WW3 starts and japan gets nuked, your shitty DRM cartridges will be worthless. It's the exact same garbage as steam's service, except you're forced to carry shitty plastic around
>>737967365You already said the only drawback is that I have it and I think that's excellent.
>>737967332That any prior fan of nintendo should have moved on since the Wii as nintendo pandering to gimmick cucks like you ever since, and shouldn't expect better of them.
>>737967465excellent non argument, I accept your concession and seethe
>>737967515Why would I seethe? You people are the ones getting bent over by nintendo lol.
>>737967398Says the turbo faggot that brings his tendie games to fucking gamestop just so he can get some spare change backHell, I threw my Wii to the trash a few weeks ago because I got myself a mayflash dolphin bar which removes the entire need to even have the console anymore. As an adult, I'd have to be beyond fucking autistic to resell that shit and get maybe $40 at best. This will somehow trigger you though because that's probably the allowance that mommy gives you>>737967438>inconvenience is le good thingI mean, I am talking with retards that unironically go resell games, so I'm not surprised that you're like that
>>737967569See >>737965445
>>737967569whos seething? youre the one still mad about a console from 2 generations ago having good games
>>737967607>owning your games is an inconvienence I disagree.
>>737964827according to the EU i bought a game, not a license
>>737967705>mentally ill tendie thinks he owns his gameslollmao evenyou're not even allowed to mod them without having nintendo ninjas slice your neck
>>737967776how would you mod the game in the first place?
>>737967705>needing a physical authenticator for the digital content contained on your console is more convenient than notok
>>737967776>thinkActually I know I own my games because it's factually true. >you're not even allowed to mod them without having nintendo ninjas slice your neckNo I can effortlessly mod anything I want from any publishers with no recourse. Must be a skill issue on your part.
>>737967845Correct. Owning games is more convenient than not owning games. Glad we agree.
>>737967937except in this scenario owning the game requires more effort on the player's part
>>737968084>put game card in switch>play gamewow, that really required a lot of effort on my part
>>737968118as opposed to>play gameyes
>>737968084If that's how you feel then simply dont own your games.
>>737968152but you are playing the game. In fact I even said >play game in my post
>EGS figuring out how to let PC players own digital media in the EU>Nintendo figuring out how to let console players own digital media worldwideHonestly the future is kinda looking good. Kinda surprised.
>>737968346*GoG
>>737962895pokopia being a game key card game has me worried for future nintendo games on switch 2i thought only third parties and indies would use game key cards
>>737968463pokemon isnt first party either, anon is very slow
>>737968429Well you can rest easy because GKCs are pro consumer and pro ownership. A corporation is fighting for your right to own the games you buy even when it isn't financially viable in the current market. There is nothing to be worried about.
>>737968162at least in the past when you buy a physical game you actually have the game on the cart. There's an actual, meaningful advantage over having a digital copy. Sure, I won't be able to quickly launch it from a digital library, but that also means I won't have to waste hard drive space storing it or manage what games I have installed. If I'm inna woods and have a hankering for a game I haven't played in a while, I can just play it right then and there. I don't care whether I legally "own" it or not, I DO care about what having a physical copy offers me over a digital one. Both have (sorry, HAD) their own pros and cons. Now with these game keys, it's all of the cons of digital with none of the advantages of physical.>inb4 you need to install disc games on ps5 and sexbox tooyes and it's just as bad, but at least that doesn't require an internet connection the first time around>>737968195I know you did, now notice how I didn't say ">put game card in switch" in mine>>737968220If my game's already on my console why should I need to have to put in a cart when digital purchasers don't need to do any of that?
>>737968721digital purchasers need to install the game, which is quite literally more tedious then putting the cartridge in. are you retarded??
>>737968774Oh, so I don't need to install the game when I put in a game key? Wow, I sure was misinformed. Disregard everything I said.
>>737968721>Now with these game keys, it's all of the cons of digitalNope! The biggest con of digital is owning nothing. You own GKCs. Nice try though, I almost thought you had a sincere opinion up until you lied.
>>737962895Youre not gonna like this but physical is moving towards key cards everywhere
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>>737964119I think that's a bit harsh but also accurate. I rented it from blockbuster a few times with my game freedom pass and it was a lot of fun, but it was enough to get my fill and I don't think I ended up buying it. I don't even feel the urge to get Air Riders for nostalgia's sake. Maybe if I can get it for $20.
>>737968984Sure.
you don't get it, it increases profit margins and therefore shareholder value. The memory card storage is way more expensive than you think
>>737967810You own the game, you own the files, you edit the files. It's that simple. Oh wait, you can't do that because you don't actually own the game nor the files. It's the equivalent of not being able to paint your walls in a rented house.On steam that isn't a problem. I buy the game, I own the game, I can edit the files that I want, the fat fuck can't do a thing.>>737967859You're literally tech illiterate. You can mod them just fine on real hardware, but only after it gets hacked so you can finally state that you own what you've bought.Did it with my switch using layeredFS. Played so many games with 60FPS + overclock while you niggers were forced to wait half a decade just pay the tendie tax for the Switch 2 upgrade
>>737969131>you edit the filesand as my original question actually asked and you didnt answer, how does one edit the files?
>>737968875if there's no game data on the cart, if I need an internet connection just to play the first time around, I do not consider that kind of "ownership" better or more convenient than owning nothingif you want to disagree that's your right but that's just something I'm never going to accept
>>737962895>This alone killed any interest i had in nintendo as a companyI hate game key cards and Nintendo is guilty of a lot of things, but I don't see this is on Nintendo. Almost all of Nintendo's games have a real physical version, it's the 3rd parties that are being jews and don't to pay for a real cartridge. Nintendo just made it an option for them, though you can say they shouldn't have.
>>737969131No I own my games. I just can't mod them. These are different things.
>>737969224If that's how you feel towards this specifc media format then you can simply chose to own nothing though a digital purchase or piracy. I'm not trying to change your opinion on anything.
Thirty days
>>737963863>It's a console. You never owned shit in the first place.Wtf is that supposed to mean? If I have the physical console, and the real physical game, no one can take that away from me. Unless I stupidly mod my console and connect it to the internet.
>>737969180As long as you have the files and they're not blocked by kiketendo encryption, then you're free to do whatever you want. I can't simplify the process of modding any further than that anon.>>737969238>No I own my games. I just can't mod them.So.................... you don't own themI own my pirated switch 1 games and I am allowed to do whatever I want with them, simple as.Nintendo can literally just release a firmware update that blocks your games and there's nothing you can do about that because you. don't. own. shit. In fact, they did it once with the 3DS, OoT3D was straight up unplayable for years due to a system update for no absolutely no reason.
>>737964827And how are they going to take away your physical game retard?
>>737969497>So.................... you don't own themFalse. I own them.>I own my pirated switch 1 games No you don't. Those are unlicensed bootlegs. You have no legal ownership of them.
>>737962895agreed. I'm not someone who resells games that he buys. I typically do not buy digital games for consoles either. Anything digitally purchased i buy for pc if available. This game key card thing benefits me zero. It's just a way for me to not pop a game cart in the console and start playing. If I can't just pop the cartridge or disc into a console and play it, I'm not going to bother.
>>737969497>I own my pirated switch 1 games and I am allowed to do whatever I want with them, simple as.Yes, you can. Just don't connect to their servers retard. You expect them to just not do anything about piracy?
>>737963460No, nor did literally any Crapcom game, that anon's just a nigger.
>>737969497so if you have to mod the console anyway, why would digital or GKC matter in the first place
Reminder that decades of poorfag jews pirating games are the reason we have all these anti-consumer actions from companies normal people have to deal with now. Blame those faggots.
>>737964119>This game's existence is bstopped reading there, pasta niggers need to be gassed
>>737963061Honest question, why would you waste your money on most of this shit? Like hitman? That is AAA boring fucking shit, I doubt you even beat it same with Yakuza 0 and knowing you are playing shit ports when they are cheaper on PC and run better
>>737969563>False. I own them.No you don't. You own plastic and a license >No you don't. Those are unlicensed bootlegs. You have no legal ownership of them.They're the same thing that you're playing, except that I own them. >>737969653Because you don't own your console. Look how this isn't a problem with Steam, and yet retards are somehow still insisting that kike cards are better than steam for (((some))) reasonTruly a domesticated fanbaseI will buy my switch 2 until I can be sure that I can actually own it. Hell, look at early adopters, they're not even allowed to replace their goddamn batteries lmao, the EU had to step in just to give newfags a small bit of ownership.
>>737969669GKCs are pro consumer actually, and there's nothing wrong with piracy. Neither is there anything wrong with DRM. These are simply just options the consumer and publisher have. If you don't like DRM, then pirate. If you're fine with DRM, then buy. Or any mix of any possibilty. The only people crying are hypocritical babies too childish tonunderstand how the world works.Like this guy >>737969497
>>737969669That's wrong and you're retarded for thinking otherwise.
>>737969669>pirate vidya>buytards get fuckedKINO
>>737969823>GKCs are pro consumer actuallyThey're physical games but objectively worse in every conceivable way. They only exist to make publishers save up some money (they won't make the game cheaper thought btw). How the fuck are they pro consumer you cattle?
>>737969774ok so youre just bitching about nintendo games for not being on steam, thanks for wasting everybody's time
>>737969238Wrong! With the right of first sale, you are allowed to modify goods you own. That is your right in many first world countries.Then how do companies get around this and penalize modification, you ask? This is the loophole that DRM provides. By modyfying or bypassing the protection that stops you from fully accessing the game you just bought, you've just infringed on the company's copyright! Now they can legally take you to court. This practice is known as "parts pairing" and it's used in a variety of industries to slowly claw ownership away from people. When people say "you don't actually own your physical games", this is what they mean! You do own what's on that cart, but the company put a giant wall in between you and what's rightfully yours, and they're legally allowed to shoot you if you try to climb it.
>>737969916Nice reading comprehension you turbonigger
>>737969669>nowzoomer hands typed this post
>>737969774>No you don'tYeah I do.>You own plastic and a licenseNope, I own the media which is licensed. >except that I own them.You can't own unlicensed media. You're not the legal owner. Sorry. I'm just explaining facts to you.Btw, can you make up your mind on whether or not you care about ownership? You're moving the goal post every other post. Do you or do you not care about ownership?
>>737969969>its bad because its not on steam waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah>gkc are bad because you can mod games on steam waaaaaaaaaahnice bitching, mangina
>>737964119>messed around for a few hoursstop trying to pretend your gay interactive media is deeper than anything except a children’s toy. All you had to do was say “played for a few hours”. I’m having trouble understanding why it’s so hard for you to admit you’re playing with toys.
>>737969905>They're physical games but objectively worse in every conceivable wayI agree. But still better than digital. >How the fuck are they pro consumer you cattleI won't have a debate with someone as disrespectful as you are. You need to calm down first champ.
>>737969961>Wrong! With the right of first sale, you are allowed to modify goods you own. That is your right in many first world countries.I'm aware, but I can't yet do that because Switch 2 is locked down tight. Eventually I'll be able to.
>>737969714>That is AAA boring fucking shitspoken like a nogaems /v/irgin
>>737970064>its bad because its not on steam waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahI never said that>gkc are bad because you can mod games on steam waaaaaaaaaahI did say that because you said that kike cards were better than steam's service, which it's objectively false. Again, I OWN my steam games, and I'm able to move the files, backup them up, edit them, shove them into an SD card and sell to some tech illiterate retar. Meanwhile you can't do shit with your game kike cards other than reselling them to another retard. The day nintendo servers die they're all GONE. You were not allowed to do any backup, they're literally gone forever. That's the difference>>737970159>But still better than digital.No they're not, and they're even worse on a console like the Switch.You know what's great about digitial games on a handheld? You have shitloads of games installed and you can just pick any game that you want and jump right in. Kike cards on the other hand still force you to carry every single cartridge around and swap them around all the time. That's just inconvenient for a handheld, imagine having to carry your cartridges around when traveling, what is this, the late 90s? The PSP had already that shit all figured outThey're worse than physical games because you don't own them and are literal timebombsThey're worse than digital games because you can't just pick the games from the main menu without having to insert your DRM stick firstLiterally the worst of both worlds>I won't have a debate with someone as disrespectful as you are.Yeah my bad, you're way below cattle. Even pigs get treated better than you.
>>737964443>should be $40 realisticallyimagine being poor and not being able to tell the difference in quality between Nintendo and lesser third party
>>737970048>You're moving the goal post every other post. It's because you're having a discussion with more than one person. This is a big board, anon.Anyway I'd argue that you can't own media licensed to you. Otherwise it wouldn't require a license in the first place. You own the license, nothing more.
>>737970583>edit them, shove them into an SD card and sell to some tech illiterate retar.youre not actually allowed to do that
>>737970662I can do it>bb-b-butI can do it
>>737970583Still not debating you
>>737970787yah you can but youre not actually allowed to do that. So your point about being superior to anyone is moot
>>737970651>you're having a discussion with more than one personI don't believe you.>Anyway I'd argue that you can't own media licensed to you. Otherwise it wouldn't require a license in the first place. You own the license, nothing more.Well you're wrong. I own the media, which is licensed. This is a fact btw, you can't argue it.
>>737970838Here's (You).>>737970878>yah you canGlad that you agree with me. I will now go actually play some vidya because unlike you guys, I'm not experiencing any vidya drought.
GKC are retarded because it’s just an excuse for Nintendo to sell digital titles at full price, you get all the downsides of a physical game without the one big upside of switch games, offline play and no install.>but Sony-Funny enough people say the ps5 discs are just a download key but of the games I have on ps5 all but two can be fully installed and played offline. I tested this out with dragons dogma 2, it installed and played without a WiFi connection with zero issues, same with bloodborne. The only games that require downloads are slop shooters which you shouldn’t be buying in the first place. Now also consider ps5 games frequently go on sale, whereas Nintendo is currently charging $70 for a game they released 8 years ago with none of the DLC. And Nintendo fans will defend this because they will defend anything Nintendo does. Does this mean I think you should get a ps5? No, save your money and get a ayn Thor or a cheap mini pc and load it up with emulators. There is no reason to buy a current gen console, least of all a $450 tablet computer with middling specs and outrageously overpriced games.
>>737971026This is me actually
>>737971026>, I'm not experiencing any vidya drought.neither am I
>>737969714hitman is the only game worth a damn in that picture you uncultured nigger
>>737971074>it’s just an excuse for Nintendo to sell digital titles at full priceperplexing post
>>737971074I already know why GKCs exist and your explanation is wrong.
>>737971156So what are they charging for the physical games and what are they charging for the digital games?
>>737971198$70 for physical and 60 for digital
>>737971172Which is?
>>737970935>I don't believe you.sure man whatever>I own the media, which is licensed.you don't>This is a fact btw, you can't argue it.I mean the law's pretty clear that access isn't ownership, and I can prove it just by pointing out that the card you bought doesn't even have any media on it
>>737971225Well that’s better than charging $80 for bing bing wahoo kart and a hell of a lot better than charging $80 for a fucking switch 1 game.
>>737971287correct, and its even better than bitching about $80 switch 2 games you can buy for like $40 on S1
>>737971237It’s literally, unironically, DRM plastic. The only thing the GKC gives you is the right to download the game, but if you read the fine print on what GKC acutally are they more or less have the same rights as a digital title, which means you aren’t entitled to shit. They’re inferior to a physical title in every possible way.
>>737971226Tech prices are skyrocketing. The cart medium is too expensive to publishers to afford. These publishers were only willing publish digital media and not physical due to theses prices. Nintendo created a middle ground in GKCs where prices remained cheap to the publishers, while consumers were able to keep ownership of their media.
>>737963061>Sonic X Shadow GenerationsGame Key Card garbage. That one I know off the top of my head, but it establishes that you are a lying double nigger who is trying to fool /v/ into thinking the quantity of physical releases isn't as piteously small as we know it to be, and indicates that likely half or more of the entire stack of games on display is, in fact, comprised of digital downloads rather than physical releases.
>>737971237>you don'tI do.>the card you bought doesn't even have any media on itSo? EU allows ownership of digital media and there is no tangible medium at all. >>737971373>They’re inferior to a physical title in every possible way.Yup, just less inferior to digital in every way.
>>737963061Most of the games that interest me are key card only. Kunitsu-Gami, Elden Ring, etc.ER gave me whiplash from the excitement to losing all interest a day later. There is maybe 1 that isn't.>>737969669Companies have never needed any more reasons to cheap out on customers.
>>737971414The problem being you don’t actually own the media, the GKC is legally indistinguishable from a CD key which means your access to the game can be revoked at any time for any reason. This doesn’t mean I think Nintendo is going to randomly shut off servers or whatever but in the case of a game that’s on a GKC being discovered to have an exploit that would allow you to exploit the switch 2 à la cubic ninja? They absolutely could just disable the ability to download the game, it’s in the TOS.
>>737963061>actually bought KN-GYour sins are absolved.
>>737971586Well no, they’re worse than digital media because you still need the key card to play it, which means you have the minor inconvience of having to haul your ass over to the shelf and swap the game.
>>737971449game key cards are released at retailers, you buy them in person
>>737971656>Most of the games that interest me....Elden Ringacquire taste
>>737971668>you don’t actually own the media, the GKC......is the media. Do you know what media is anon? GKCs are the media, and I own the GKCs. I own the media. >your access to the game can be revoked at any time for any reasonNope. It had better be a long fucking time away and for good reason or else I'm filing a class action lawsuit and getting my money back.>They absolutely could just disable the ability to download the game, it’s in the TOS.I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about my steam account that has the same restrictions. Same as my PSN digital games, and my Xbox digital games. I appreciate your concern for me however.
>>737963869I'm with you. My series x drive failed while in warranty and they sent me another one and the drive again only lasted until the warranty ended. Basically stuck with an all digital series x and it's gay as fuck.
>>737971859Not owning the media you bought is more inconvienent than owning it. Media being tangible isn't a drawback for me. I own books. I own vinyls. I own manga volumes. I own magazines. I own GNs. All physical, not an issue for me in the slightest.
>>737971586>So? EU allows ownership of digital media and there is no tangible medium at all. so if buying digital means owning and you have the right to resell em can you explain what makes game key cards better over digital or proper physical carts?
>>737963061The S2 boxes are so ugly, wtf is wrong with Nintendo.
>>737972089I think the other anon forgot about Stop Killing Games which recently passed in Europeeing parliament
>>737972212I will never live in the EU.
>>737972224they look like Gamecube though, it's SOUL
>>737972248It hasn't passed yet>>737972278Then your access isn't ownership
>>737972207Please go read the TOS for these things, you DO NOT own the media. You own the right to download it, and that download can be revoked.
>>737972375>Then your access isn't ownershipI don't know what that means. I have no access to EU laws and regulations. So I can't answer "if you lived in the EU" scenarios.
>>737972357Those were ugly too
>>737972393>Please go read the TOS for these thingsDone and done.>you DO NOT own the media, you own the right to download itSame thing.
>>737972089You’re gonna sue Nintendo for something in their TOS you agreed to when you purchased the console? Also good luck trying to file a class action when you also waived your right to do that, also in the TOS you agreed to when you purchased the console.
>>737972609>You’re gonna sue Nintendo for something in their TOS you agreed to when you purchased the consoleCorrect.>you also waived your right to do that, also in the TOS you agreed to when you purchased the console.Complete bullshit. There are ongoing class action lawsuits for every console brand's controllers. Why the fuck would you lie about this?
>>737972607Downloading is not ownership.
>>737972526I'm not giving you a scenario, either you live in the EU where a license grants ownership, or you don't, which means it doesn't. That's what your key card is. A license. It grants you access to a game. Nintendo is legally allowed to revoke that license at any time and turn that key card into a worthless piece of plastic. You own the license, not the game.
>>737972726Seems to be the case. See GKCs, and EU GoG games.
>>737972716That lawsuit is from before the updated TOS. The new TOS, updated last year, says you agree to arbitration and you waive the right to a class action suit.
>>737972571THERE'S NO GOOD LOOKING SIDE COVERS, TRANNY
>>737972740I own the GKC which is licensed media of a video game. The fact that it still needs to be downloaded is irrelevant to ownership. See GoG in the EU, and GKCs.
>>737963061Everyone knows it's a false flagger spamming this image by now, right?
>>737972851Source?
>>737972985 https://www.nintendo.com/us/eula-update/
>>737972948stay mad, brokie
>>737973015You're literally proving my point.
>>737972924It is relevant. You can't say the argument of digital ownership being better than a game key card doesn't apply to you because you live outside the EU and then point at EU law as to why you own your game.
>>737973010Guess I'll leave it up to the judge then. Thankfully SKG is making good ground on this regard.
The real redpill is that Steam and GOG are the best way to preserve your purchases. Your discs are subject to erosion, and your consoles will stop working long before that, but I will probably still have access to all of my Steam library in the year 2080.
>>737973085I didn't do that. You said downloads can't be owned. Downloads can be owned, factually. See GKCs (worldwide) or GoG (EU).This isn't debatable. It's just a fact that the downloads can now be owned. Isn't that good news for you? Why are you angry at this?
>>737973152>steammeh>gogthe only real answer
>>737972885The ones that have just the logo of the game or the name of it are nice, that extension of the front cover just looks like a smudge
>>737973152Piracy is better than steam. You can't own steam games so save your money a pirate them. They preserve the same regardless.
>>737973265I mean if we both agree that buying digital means owning then yes, that's great news
>>737973330>steel coversthey cost extra
>>737973448Just GKCs and GoG (EU). Digital is almost always non ownership.
>>737973554So GoG downloads are ownership in the EU...but not other kinds of EU downloads. Besides GKCs.
>>737973910Yup. This is because Gabe Newell doesn't want you to own your games. Unlike Nintendo who invents a media type to let their consumers own their games.
Digital games = don't buy them on consolesGame Key cards = buy them if you only want the game for a short time (i.e., to resell it after playing)Standard cards = buy them if you plan to keep them long-term (keep in mind that the lifespan of this type of flash memory is 10 to 20 years).
>>737974057But that's just Steam. What about other digital game distributers? Did Nintendo appeal? Sony?
How do I share and resell my game key-cards?
>>737974295Use this website to research things:www.google.com
>>737974297You can actually just resell game key cards like proper game carts, they aren't tied to an account>>737974351Then don't say "Just GKCs and GoG" if you don't actually know
>>737974440Why? What the fuck are you going to do? Due diligence, research, and tell the truth for once? It's highly unlikely. You're just an internet troll after all.
>>737974440>You can actually just resell game key cards like proper game carts, they aren't tied to an accountYeah but how? It's on my switch, so does it wirelessly transfer between hardware? I know I could google it but I'm not gonna since I'm not that invested.
>>737965445GKCs, like pretty much all physical games, are basically denuvo in physical form. No mods, no making backups, no tinkering with the files. Hell, you're not even allowed to play the game without using the company's special hardware. Like it's beyond retarded that an SNES game can't be played on an N64 or a gamecube or a Wii or a Switch.Meanwhile,I have PC games going back to 1999 that still work on every PC I've ever owned. And yes, this includes games I've bought digitally, and games I bought physical. How do consolegroids put up with such anti-consumer behavior? Imagine buying a game on steam, and then the company says that you have to rebuy it because you changed your motherboard or some stupid shit like that. >um, but what about le heckin discontinued windows 7 supportAn OS you can freely download, or emulate in a virtual machine or Wine? And assuming you're too much of a techlet to do that, you can just directly tinker with the files to make them work. Deus Ex has a few bugs being played on modern systems, but because of the modding scene, you can play it in 3 different flavors, all with customization options.Meanwhile, if you're some poor schmuck who bought Front Mission 3 or Dino Crisis on PSN (back on the PS3) sony doesn't even acknowledge it. Your purchases stop existing on the Ps4 and Ps5, and sony's only response is "WELL JUST KEEP YOUR PS3". And retards will unironically defend this.
>>737974618I sure wish you did some due diligence>>737974937No you just...give the key card to someone else. That's it. Like a real game card. If you try to launch the game on your switch 2 it just won't run because it needs the key card to verify.
>>737975024I already know all the pros and cons of all the media formats. Did you have a question or something?
>>737975302How is GKC pro-consumer when it doesn't even let you own it?>b-but you can resell itIf I sold it, then I don't own it anymore. Wtf kind of argument is this?
>>737975168>I sure wish you did some due diligenceWhy? Because you're incapable of it?
>>737974937You just sell the card and it works on their machine you dumb fuck
>>737975168>>737975653I was asking about virtual game key cards...
>>737975362>How is GKC pro-consumer when it doesn't even let you own it?It's simple, GKCs are pro consumer because the alternative that publishers were threatening was a non ownable digital only release, versus GKC which you can own. Good question. >If I sold it, then I don't own it anymoreI wouldn't sell it then.
>>737975705Too bad. You said game key cards
>>737975721>It's simple, GKCs are pro consumer because the alternative that publishers were threatening was a non ownable digital only releaseBut I own all of my steam games. What's this about them being non-ownable?
>>737975989You can't own Steam games. Because of this fact you don't own your steam games. Also, because this is a fact it can't be debated.
>>737971967Point me at better fantasy action rpgs with character customization then. I want one to play.
>>737976190>you can't own steam gamesCitation needed.
Modern Gaming is for cucks paying for online is garbage and Steam Games are not really yours this generation of Gamers are truly cucked
>>737976263Copied to clipboard and ready to paste. But first before I prove this, I'll need a citation for this claim. >I own all of my steam games.Once you post your proof I'll post mine. Here's a hint, you won't find proof for your claim, so I won't be posting mine. There, I saved us both a bunch of wasted time. See how simple and easy life is when you're truthful and don't lie to make yourself feel better?
>>737976421>I'll need a citation for this claim: I own all of my steam games.Sure thing famalam. >can modify them>can make infinite backup copies>can crack any of the flimsy DRM (never bought a single denuvo game)>can get them to work on any PC I own>can get them to work without even needing steam installed>not a single one has an arbitrary kill timer (like consoles do, when your game stops working with future consoles)>can put them on usb drives and sell them to my friends, if I really wanted to Seems like I own them. Is there something I'm missing?
>>737976546>Is there something I'm missing?The citations for your claim. Due diligence. And honesty.
>>737976710Are any of those bullet points erroneous? I'd be happy to link you to an easy to follow tutorial that shows you how each of these things is accomplished.
>>737977038No thanks, just a citation is all you need before I post mine.
>>737977224https://github.com/atom0s/Steamlesshere you go, f@m. Would you like a link to the goldberg emu, as an alternative?
>>737974057How is this different from GoG tho? They don't let you resell your games either
>>737977412No thanks, just a citation for your claim is all that's needed.
>>737977701I keep offering them, but you keep declining, so I offer you this: if I don't own my steam games, then take them away from me. Or better yet, outline how they can be taken away.You are certain of your position, so it stands to reason that this task should be easy for you.
>still crying over key cards>still making the purchase of videogames, in either physical or digital format, some kind of ideological matter you need to virtue-signal instead of simply enjoying said gameslollmao even
>>737977874Don't bother man this guy genuinely thinks he's been talking to the same person for an hour, let him wallow in his delusions
>>737978068Fair enough. He seems to be arguing in circles anyway.
>>737977874>>737977701
>>737963061>posts key cards
>>737963863Half the point of a console is that I can buy a hard copy of a game and just keep it. I have games I've owned for over 20 years.
>>737975024>gamecube or a Wii or a Switch.You could probably emulate gamecube on hacked switch
>>737978547*until the hardware dies, then you're screwed.Ask 3DS fans how they feel about their carts dying.
>>737962895>>737963061>Get Star Award Outlaws on Key Card just cus it was on clearance>Month later decide to play it>Thought "oh fuck, I didn't even check my SD card space>Plug in card>Game has to download>Keep thinking "if I want to make space I'll have to delete this later. If I want to play this again I have to redownload it again. It's a massive game and not like a 1GB made for digital title"Absolute meme shit. I won't be buying any other key cards.
>>737963863Smart nintendo fans stopped posting after the Switch released and now we have retards, assuming he isn't shitposting, like this defending not having consumer rights because one made-up autist made them mad
>>737978726>Star Award
>>737978723Yeah, modern flash cards are hot shit. I've got a 43 year old copy of Popeye for the famicom and it still works great.
>>737978780:)
