Are (You) having fun?
>>737968526when do we get to fight diablo
>>737968526cue the blast-havers
fun first class to try the base game with?
>>737968802Paladin
>>737968847>>737968802Oh you said base so I assume you may not have the expansions, then Barbarian is pretty fun. Sorcerer too.
Is this easy enough to play couch coop with my gf?
>>737968526I am yeahsometimes a loppa game is what the doctor ordered.
>>737968526Mephisto was a cool spectacle fight, not enjoying the slower progression
>>737968526Didn't buy it. Still butthurt over giving away the first expansion to people who didn't buy it without anything for the people who did. Plus as much as I like clicking on monsters D4's install size is big enough to be a nuisance. Grim Yawn's 10 gigs which is a lot easier to leave installed to click on monsters a few times a week rather than pushing near 200 gigs
>>737968994yes. im 8 hours into my first playthrough on the campaign and i havent died once. i have hardly even used any of the heals and i chose the hardest difficulty available to me. but i suppose the campaign is just preperation for endgame, at least thats what ive been told
>>737968526It's fine. It is still diablo 4
>>737968526Played the original Diablo 4 on release and it was hot garbage. Is it any better now?
I got burned on the first dlc which wasn't that cool. Willing to give it a try but I think I'm entitled to a heavy discount for buying the first dlc and game which they are not offering.Also it is a bit weird you build a character and get attached to it but you essentially lose everything with new seasonal progression which doesn't make much sense to me.
Ran through the game as a Paladin Now I'm on my second play through with necromancer and I'm taking my time exploring everything and trying to do all dungeons
>>737968526>>737970192Another blizzard miss im afraid.maybe after they fix/add more things and discount the game and its DLC's the value will be there but now? nah.
>>737968526newfag here, what the fuck am I meant to do? I made a season character, I'm guessing it's like Diablo 3 where I can just ignore the prevuious expanion and base game and just do the current campaign to get everything I need?
>>737970642Yeah the campaign even has a recap for people who skip but also give enough of a shit about D4s story to know a little about it.
>>737968526Yeah, Warlock is vibing with me, I kinda wish all the monsters you summon weren't hot pink, the story is typical Diablo, Prime Evils are always 10 steps ahead but this one is well acted and the cutscenes are vastly improved.>>737968663He's dead, this game takes place a few years after D3 on an eastern continent.The new expansion contains the member memberberries to previous games and there's a bit of a lore dump to explain what happened between both games
>>737970642There's no season this season, you're playing with a permanent character on the default world setting. You can choose where to start in character creation options.There's still a season pass to unlock items but typical seasons in D4 will add a new gameplay mechanic and endgame loop with unique items only good for that season.
>people liking d4it's over for the vidya world
>>737968526YepU mad trannies?
>>737968663four expansions from now (maybe) (if they follow the same pattern as Mephisto for Baal and Diablo)
>>737970642you can't really ignore the base game's storythe first expansion might as well not have happened
>>737971603>>737971076>>737970721wait no season?I made a seson character tho and just was doping campaign quests
>watch trailer>that retarded girlboss is still therelol
>>737971790there's a "season" in that seasonal characters can progress the season track for stuff, but it doesn't have the extra events/bells and whistles that a normal season would have
>>737971808she literally dies in that cutscene
>>737971865Fucking kekSo basically I can just take one of the high level characters and run threough the expansion on that and get to skip it nex ttime?
>>737968526anal sex with mommy lilith
>>737971932there's some cosmetic stuff in the season track but yeah if you don't care about that you just play on an eternal character and have about the same experience
Daily reminder this game is fundmentally fucked beyond repair and will never be fun. Diablo 3 is unironically miles better than this shit and it fixed itself in 1 expansion.
>>737968526ngl I booted this up and replayed the campaign from the start with JP dubsomehow it magically enhanced the experience, and its like im playing some comfy import translated by NISA or something
>>737972168Diablo 3 is literally spamming rifts and bounties. This idea that Diablo 3 was some perfect game is some serious nostalgia glasses. The game also aged terribly. Even D2R with classic graphics looks better.
>>737972553D4 is spamming pit though
>>737968526I am not going to buy a game plus all its expansions to enjoy a game that should have all these updates since the start. Only a pay pig would buy all this shit for something that should come in the base game.
>Diablo 3 is literally spamming rifts and bounties. This idea that Diablo 3 was some perfect gamelol no, D3 is a 6/10 game which puts it miles above 3/10 D4slop
Is there actually a game mode in d4 that's like the rifts?I unronically liked the normal opnes, not the greater ones
ARPGs are boring
>>737968847>>737968901Paladin is an expansion locked class? I wish I had never played video games, nothing that's old is good anymore, nothing that's new is good
Diablo Immortal has had more content added for free than Diablo 4 has paid. New dungeons, new raids, new zones, new stories, new classes, new items. >but its p2wWho gives a shit in an infinitely scaling content game, just don't buy anything it's not hard.
>>737972797The latest iteration of the pit is much more like rifts, except it's used to level up glyphs which are kinda like gems which makes it like greater riftIt also doesn't drop loot until the end which is like a greater riftD4 has nightmare dungeons and a few wave based horde mode activities and maybe you could even say that Helltides are like joining a public rift, with less visual variety
>>737968526I've only "played" 52 minutes of the game, I'll report when I'm 15 hours in and actually see if it's worth or not, albeit I might have actually spent like 35 minutes of those 52 watching cinematics play and me doing absolutely nothing.
>>737973142the first hour is the only part of the story they put any effort in (because it was in the open beta)
>>737972553spamming instances is every single arpg tho
>>737968526I uninstalled after I realized the new skill tree options were locked behind the expansionGod help whoever falls for that garbage
>>737968526the only reason they force you to play through the campaign is so they can justify their awful acting writing and cgi trailers to the higher ups
>>737968526Story was actually fucking torture and they can fuck off for making me play it, but the game is somewhat better now. Tuning prisms make no fucking sense though just let me edit the fucking item.
wait so if there's no real season until july at the earliest, what the fuck are we meant to do? The story and then... what?
>>737973446the same thing you would do in a season but without a gimmick power up
>>737972973chinkslop
>>737968526Yes playing a different game
>>737973229Pretty sad state of affairs, why not do a longer beta and use feedback to release a better quality product instead of a half assed garbage as per what people said on release?
>>737972725No, it used to be spamming Duriel and Belial, THEN you spammed pitsNow you can do whatever up to very very late endgame
has anyone actually done torment 12 uber mephisto?
>>737968526Is minion necro viable again in the new expansion? The only fun I ever managed to extract from D4 was skele spam and golem fren doing everything while I just collect loot and watch a movie. Then they killed it, killed it dead, because fuck me for having fun in-particular. Why do all these subhuman companies gotta take cookie clicker for men so fucking seriously? Maybe I don't want to click, how about that.
like usual blizzard sucks ass at balancing so paladin can face tank any encounter and melt any boss with no effort main story was so bad I was falling asleep . finished it this morning. doing the first expansions story now with a sorc instead, trying to find a fun build but i think shes gonna suck until late game
>>737974883the sites say its alright for leveling but late game sucks
>>737974883Yeah. 28 skeletons is all people say about necro
>>737974883nobody knows anything cause blizz didnt publish patch notes and fucked over all the build sites. kind of based actually.
>>737971808sadly this bitch stays around for far too long and its this fake af voice she puts on. like who thought we wanted to baby sit some whore the entire story and then have 2 expansions about her
>>737975038So nothing changed reeeeeeeeeeee.
I reinstalled to check new skill trees, no expansions. I have no idea how anything works anymore, just run nightmare dungeons and skeletons go brrr. how do i raise difficulty now?
Did anyone else really like the Mephisto fight? The living water guy was pretty cool too
>>737975178torment is unlocked by completing a specific dungeon on a specific difficulty now
>>737975253it was cool. the stuff leading up to it was dumb.
Reminder Lilith did nothing wrong.
>>737975095>fucked over all the build sitesNah, the build sites are relying on ai and discordStreamers are the retards relying on discord with 'geez guise, I just haha wow, lol, I just wow, had these TEN crazy uniques drop in the past hour when I was uh farming offline lolz'#
>>737975419this expansion was pretty much them telling us that
>>737974949anon it is clearly intentional that they make the expansion classes overpowered
>>737975150>2 expansionsanon...
>>737968526How fun is Warlock?I don't know if I should play paladin, warlock, or spiritborn
>>737976393Its OK. Midwits are getting filtered and demon calling is a pretty strong build. Think witch doctor from 3.
>>737976393It's the love child of Sorc and Necro the only bad thing is you have to give up one of your buttons to demon summon and all the buttons do cool/useful shit and the demon is just a large minion who spits smaller minions
>>737970726but wasn't he resurrected at the end of d3 expansion?
>>737976393kind of a slow caster like necro. i didnt really like it.
>>737976552>>737976393i wouldnt say that, its more like a witch doctor and i dont know why people arent mentioning this. its just disposable summons like witchdoctor>>737976393paladin is faceroll easy for main campaign, was falling asleep. i wanted to play something a lot more engaging like rogue or barb
>>737972973It raped the lore harder than 4. And 4 implied that Lilith impregnated inarius.
>>737976393i made a hybrid caster warlock that throws nukes erasing the whole screen of enemies with a single spell
>>737974883https://helltides.com/pitYeah, doing fine. Ignore the 150s from Spiritborn and Wizard - those bugged builds got hotfixed today
the narrative in d4 is really good. feels like I’m playing a sequel to 90s anime like Berserk and Claymore.
>>737976417>demon calling is a pretty strong build. Think witch doctor from 3.that makes me want to make one. I avoided it because I just don't like overpowered FOTM shit but I guess Blizz avoided the temptation this time since it seems in line with everything else so far
>>737968526yes, its way way better than i was led to believe. although having 2 expansions probably helped
Don't fucking know why they put so much emphasis on the asian chick only to kill her off like that. Jesus Blizzard doesn't know what they want to do in this story.
>>737971808i think you have actual brain damage
>2026>Giving nublizz moneyKek
>>737979518>tavolta-mem.gifit's okay, Ricardo. We know the browns don't have money to give them even if they were inclined to.
>>737979598So you're saying you're all shilling this game for free? I doubt that Pradeep
>>737968526I like the war plans meme because cool shit like this can happen
Is it worth it to make sense to play the first two games or can I just jump into the latest releae
>>737969745Elaborate?
>>737979857>PradeepI don't speak Spanish; what does this mean?
>>737980060>that many goblins>still 400% clearer than the thinnest PoE 1 T1 mapLOL
whats the deal with Altars of Lilith do they not give permanent stats anymore ??
I'm enjoying it. Much better than the base game was.I made a Barbarian lady.
>>737980141>Is it worth it to make sense to playb8 or ESL?
>>737968526I never felt for this scam so yes.
>>737980917>scam
>>737980141if you havent played them at all id say one time and only once, the story is really bad though. i was falling asleep near the end
>>737968663in two expansions, the next one will be the Baal expansion and then the Diablo expansion.
>>737968994>Is this easy enough to play couch coop with my gf?Yeah you control the difficulty level. I play it with my wife because there is fuck all couch coop games to play. Basically all the classes have full AFK builds too so they can just walk around and win.
>>737980615
>>737968526Totally. Haven't played since post launch first event when we swapped to the infinitely superior-if-not-one-of-the-best-games-ever-made Remnant 2. But coming back to 2 campaigns and 3 characters for 40 bucks is not bad. So far it is great. Only level 20. Playing Paladin while my wife is playing Warlock. Loving it so far. Only level 20 tho.
>>737976393Really fucking boring imo. And lacks real class identity that other classes dont do better.
>>737968526blessed mother. save us.
>>737981084so you played for like 5 minutes,
>>737981078they represented me too so it's okay
>>737981078Does female druid still look like this?
>>737981509yeah, female druids are some big bitches
>>737981318Says 5 hours. But yeah not much. Got it before bed yesterday. Hard finding time when we both have a job and a kid. Focusing on story and not leveling. Should be able to finish both stories and hit cap this weekend. >inb4 washed outIt is a snip of the game in HDR. Not gonna bother with converting screenshots to SDR.
>>737981591So they’re American?
>>737981706>>737981591>>737981509>737981509>>737981078Druid female is powerlifter/strongfatthe obese cunt in the twitter screenshot is just obese
>>737981591>>737981782Yuck, shan't play
>>737981078>fat bitch thinks she is strongfatlol
I fucking hate Diablo campaigns. I swear they weren't this bad in 3.
>>737982120they were significantly worse
>>737981078the funniest shit about this post is the comments where she is replying to blizzard employees all their bios are "formerly blizzard"
>>737982220Are you sure? The fucking nahantu shit from the last one was so gay and felt like Marvel Black Panther.
>>737981078Fat bitches need to shut the fuck up
>>737981078Whats funny to me is my wife refuses to play Druid even though she loves nature/animal motifs because the character is ugly and fat. Goes both ways.
I finished the campaign did pit 10 and unlocked torment 1.It so frustrating that I have to read like a dozen how to guides to know what to do next because the game doesnt tell me
>>737981078how does a fat woman have those 11 line abs? The modeler just made the character wider.
>>737982469Its supposed to be the opposite. You pick up the new war plans and run them, back to back until your eyes bleed.
>>737968663you don'tyou play AS diablo(reincarnated)
>>737968526How's this game compared to 3?
>>737982419Your wife must be in shape. Everyone hates fat women.
>>737968526I'm having funwith d2
>>737970192way better. figured it would run the same course as D3.. dogshit start into kino diablo gaming. it holds pretty true, i think its worth a playthrough now. i still think D3 is the best one and only casualcore normie scum disagree. if you aren't pushing hardcore rifts or whatever the fuck they call it nowadays then you are garbage and dont deserve an opinion on the series
>>737982639I still have my physical copy of D2 and I'm thinking about buying it again on steam just to try out the warlock dlc.
>>737975419Yep demons and satan are good actually.
>>737982595With LoH I'd say 4 is a significant improvement over 3.
>>737982778d2r is god tierdefinitely worth it for revisiting d2
>>737982734d3 plays like dogshit and is nothing more than an eternal number go up simulation that could only appeal to a sub 100 iq moron
>>737982734>playing only the second most casual game in the entire series but still going on to call other people 'casualcore normie scum'
>>737968526Warlock is so fucking boring man. It's just a worse version of the Witch Doctor. Does it ever get fun? Level 30 and it's just slow and shitty.
>>737983254nah. ur trash at the game. series too if thats ur take. guaranteed normalcore player kek >>737983296>second most casuallol if there arent rifts/pits its casual. D1 and D2 are out. and ive yet to play LoH so idk if youre completely stupid or not yet.
Does D4 has crafting like PoE? If not, I might as well stick with D2. Or even D3.
>>737968526please tell me neyrelle dies horribly. that bitch was god awful.it should have been you and mommy lilith the whole way. not some tacked on asian bitch that nobody cared about
>>737968526Why did they make her tits so nice?
>>737983994It has crafting but it's not like PoE.
>>737984236She dies before the game even begins, Mephisto breaks her neck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t1WJsFXY-8
>>737983618Nope. I thought going full demon mode night be fun but its literally worse druid.
>>737968526Suprsingly yes
>>737984236Her death was too quick imo, but that also means she doesn't shit up the plot so whatever.
>>737984236truly insufferable come the jaguar expansion. its almost unbelievable how much your character deals with her horse shit
>>737983618I went some meme youtuber build with shadow claws and it melts everything and yet i keep going back to my sorc
>>737984519im playing through that now and its her and some fake african woman talking about their feelings and mommy issueslike jesus christ
>>737984236it's entirely anticlimactic which I suppose is better than trying to get you to care
>play necromancer>its the most boring, spam XYZ when your powers not on cooldown slop imaginable>incremental item upgrades>things are listed as super rare unique whatever the fuck and then the next area a common item has better stats>fucking upgrade grid with incremental boosts on levelYeah, D2 again remains the second beat Diablo game, after D1.
>>737984380Let me guess, >cube
>>737984587the old man too... fuckin retard. i feel like blizz shows you he is 100% smarter than what he does but ahhh just make him do an insanely stupid thing for no reason anyway.the last part fighting around the water is kino af though. i dont mind leveling toons through the campaign just for that bit
>>737984727D4 Necromancer is stronger and more useful than D2 Necromancer who is a fucking useless meme character and obsoleted by the WarlockStill a mid character in D4 but way better than its D3 and D2 version
>>737984727Play rogue. It’ll transform your take on the game.
>>737984727nah d2 is better than d1d2 is peak but still d4 is OK for a slop game to grind out once in a while
>>737984601at leah had a plausible enough reason to be in the plot. this insufferable uggo bitch came out of nowhere and was somehow a know-it-all horadrim expert.
Neat
So what happened in Vessel of the Hatred
>>737986068nothingliterally nothing
>>737986068>>737986086Was a filler episode
>>737986068there was a neyrelle sex scene
Which class ISN'T boring as fuck? I've played Paladin, Warlock, and Barbarian to 50 and all have bored me to tears
>>737986367Sorc
>>737986367sorc is funi want to try rogue next or the new spiritborn classpaladin was so fucking boring i was falling asleep
>>737986367_____paladin_______
>>737968526I have fun when I jerk off to Lilith.I saw a pic of her with her feet up a while back on a goon account and I haven't been able to find that image since. Its bugging the hell out of me.
>>737986367My favourite is Necromancer BECAUSE it is boring. Get all the minions and run around clicking no buttons while everything dies. Second favourite is Aura paladin for the same reason.
>>737968663After we fight Baal. There is a prophecy that indicated that after we take out Mephisto, we will deal with Baal, then Diablo. I also assume that Diablo will bring us back to the areas around Diablo 1.
>>737986068We met Jesus-Buddha, and he got possessed by Mephisto when our plan didn't work.
>>737968663When are they going to reveal that we were Diablo all along?
>>737984789>Meme characterI don't care how weak it is in comparison to other classes, playing strategist with corpse explosion and my other spells while my front line holds off mooks was interesting and fun.
>>737968526I am having fun, I've got a rabies druid in T4 but I got curious about Sorc changes. So I make a new one, skip campaign, start doing warplans and some helltide grinding. Next thing I know my Sorc is lvl 56. You level way too fast doing warplans.
>>737989094I made a sorc and gave it one of the xp scrolls I got on my necro, instantly leveled to 28.
>>737972553D2R's artstyle is vomit and I will never accept it or the shill's trying to meme the game
>Wow, warlock is pretty cool. buff mommy sex demon>replay campaign as necro>do 3 times as much damage without using a single spell???
>>737979465they should have killer her offscreen like Deckard and the circle would be complete
>>737989832The class/spec balance is absolutely hilarious. There is no balance whatsoever. On one hand you can get builds where you go fully afk and screen wipe everything instantly to multi-spell builds that can't even scratch anything. Them taking all skills up to 15 points also is the most idiotic fucking thing ever.
>>737986367Diablo 4 is boring. changing classes wont help
>>737979465They killed her off like that because literally everyone hated her, not just /v/.
>>737982595classes feel more unique to play in D3 than 4slop holdrightclick spam endgame i'll say that much
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>>737981078Did they ever make druid fun?
>>737990125This update did a lot of work on it, but most of that is around you playing as a earth throwing bear or a lightning throwing werewolf. Or rabies werewolf.
>>737968526warlock sucks senpaiim heavily disappointed feels so fucking basic
>>737990112Sorry this didn't come through. Looks like you're banned
>>737973413it was too horrible for me, I refunded it. I refuse to play a holy paladin and have my character beg a literal demon for help and have this filthy demon sweet talking me. These SJW california atheist satanic developers in the US have completely lost the plot. I play a demon slaying game so I can slay demons and be a hero. Definitely NOT so I can get cucked and help this evil mass murdering whore.
plus, the fact that the stats systems are still total shit is incredible to me. They still haven't understood that "lucky strike" is a SHIT stat and nobody has ever nor will ever understand what it means. GET RID OF IT YOU IDIOTS. You are getting paid 200k a year for this, do your job for once in your lives.
>>737970192its an entirely different game from release.its light years better now and /v/ can't admit it because they have consumed the good goy games kool aid and are programmed to hate d4 as soon as they it mentioned.
the same goes for overpower. There is nothing gayer than YET ANOTHER SPECIAL CRIT which nobody understands. Wtf is wrong with these people. And also get rid of "close enemies" and "far enemies" and write the actual distances on this shit. holy shit these people are actually making money with this trash game
Cowbell found while fishing
>>737990303>>737990256In desperation of being different they ended up just being convoluted.
>>737990225It is tiresome.
>>737990225Congratulations, you have made the most retarded complaint in the thread. Well done.
>>737991305>wanting to fight evil is retarded
>>737976393The skills that don't summon shit are really fun but there's not enough of those. Rest is retarded minion summon bullshit nobody asked for.
How do you level to 50 without the campaign?
>>737991459No, you would rather let evil win and doom the world than make a choice that goes against your characters morals.You were force fed her blood, she is already part of you, against your will, and only you can get to her and she is the only way to stop Mephisto for good. You don't want to, but by choosing not to, you let the greater evil, Mephisto, win. You are indeed retarded.
>>737982805You wanna tell me the trickster demon that saves children on the first island in LoH is ackshually bad? Because that's more than the angels ever did. Or are you just lore illiterate and thought angels were the good guys so far?
>>737991459>>737991745Additionally if you had kept playing, you would have imprisoned both of them in the void, ridding the world of 2 evils.Full retard.
>>737991745real life doesn't work like this, the second you make ANY deal with a demon you will get raped to death. You are as stupid as those bohemian grove owl demon worshippers to think that you could bargain or deal with demons in any way whatsoever.
>>737976690bump
>>737992125>real life1. This is a video game.2. Demons are make believe.3. You're a retard.
>>737992125You realize there's no such thing as demons in real life, right?
>>737992125You, as the hero, should make any sacrifice required to save millions of innocent lives, even if it means condemning your soul. You are not a hero. You are a coward and a faggot.
>>737992265no, you absolute full retard SJW atheist dummy. Damning your soul is eternal pain forever, you never ever do that even if it means a trillion other people die. Those other trillion people are fine as long as their souls aren't damned, death is not a big deal. Losing your soul is. Go back to California and help some shoplifters steal more stuff, that's more your forte than lore discussions.
Is Zealot Paladin just Zeal spam? What else can you do? What Uniques can you build around?
>>737992125The game literally shows you a character that has the valour to sacrifice his own eternal soul to the tree of whispers to save just a few lives. And you're arguing about playing the hero but you don't wanna feel icky from working together with a demon to literally save all of mankind?Sounds like you're a disgusting egocentric coward - not a hero. And you obviously don't have the morals to larp as one not even in a videogame.
>>737992328Their souls ARE damned, Anon, unless the player stops it, they belong to Mephisto.
>737992417>737992420>how to bait a retard 101
>>737992328You're not even damning your soul you retard. You convince Lillith to assist you by fueling her desire for revenge on Mephisto and saving her creation: mankind - from annihilation and unmaking.
>>737992443>Hurr hurr look how retarded I am>Haha bait haha it was just a jest haha
>>737992395Any zealot skill really, zeal is only one way to play it.
>>737992493>/v/ is one personHow do you not notice that after like 5 replies?Go to bed already.
>>737992395some skills can be converted to zealot. ive never played paladin and im just spamming zeal though
>>737992528It doesn't matter you still chose to be a literal retard.
>>737979465they killed that girl in 3 too. shit she didnt just die her soul was obliterated. nothing good happens in diablo.
>>737992467>Shadrach just bow down to the golden image, cmon what's the big deal>i swear it won't do a thing>it will help you and you'll keep your life>Meshach please, see reason...>Abednego? you at least? why won't you side with the demon for a split second so you can get an advantage??yeah sorry, no deal. As a true believer I will never side with a demon not even for 1 second and I will pity anyone who does because you will suffer punishment from God for having forsaken Him for even one second you traitor.
>>737992673Who
>>737992673As a true believe in what? Not Christianity clearly, since you preach hate. You are literally corrupted by Mephisto. You are already a demon. RIP your soul.
>>737989931Cain was killed in a cutscene in which PC participated by being stunned or some shit - it wasn't off screen at all
>>737968526I hate every time I come back to this game it's like, one good build per class. I'm playing Paladin and everything is fucking hammerdin, I can't even find divine lance builds.I've played since launch and I math'd out a blood necro build and tested shit to make it work and I learned my lesson, if it's not meta publically, it's not ever gonna be meta. So right now it seems Arbiter and hammer spin is far and away the best build for pally and I'm already bored of it.
>>737970326I mean you can play eternal it's just what will you do max level, max paragon level etc? But you can do the campaign on eternal on an old char if you want.
>>737992847Should've played Paladin when it first came out
>>737976393For me so far I don't feel like it's very unique compared to Necro, I get the demons are more turret based but even their spells just feel like random magic abilities. The sigils feel boring already unless I'm missing something and it feels like every build ends up going Rampage because why not, it's clearly the best skill they have even if you aren't focusing on it.Initially I was very excited when I started out, the chains core skill felt like it would be rewarding but for a lot of the builds and especially their strongest, dread claw it just feels like a pretty spammy class overall. I just press buttons.Is it strong? Yes, probably broken. But spiritborne was also strong and felt like a gayer boring version of druid. Warlock feels like a boring gayer version of Necromancer.
>>737990225mental illness
>>737992847What do you mean you can't find it, it's a skill in the skill tree, you just click on it and use it.
>>737978809where is rogue and spiritborne ? No runs?
>>737979465It at least served a purpose that her dumbass plan of being special and holding onto a primeval soul stone will not work. Yes, it's basically a reaction but it's also a way of showing, well yeah, anyone would die or be corrupted from doing that and the dumb bitch was in fact a dumb bitch for thinking it'd work. Idk
>>737992987You know what I mean, builds are math'd the fuck out and like I said, I tried to do it my own way on launch ,go against the grain, spend 100 hours testing and calculating to make blood necro work when nobody believed in it and I realized it isn't meta for a reason, if it isn't strong nothing I do will change that and these people math this shit out for a living. The fact that all i see is hammer builds is lame this class legit has one build rn. Arbiter and hammer (same build).
>>737993124You don't need someone else to tell you how to play the game. I am currently running T7 with dogshit gear with no issue on a build I slapped together myself. When I find good gear I will be slapping T9 easily. Build guides are gay.
>>737993124That's more PoE than diablo desu, especially 2 were most spells are bugged, diablo is just number go up type game.
>>737992896Nah I had over 1k hours pre lord of hatred and I was waiting for the shake up, glad I did, overall I can't believe they added so much shit, I can't tell if the end game is actually fun and better but stuff like Horadric cube, new skill tree is all a clear win. When I stopped playing every season was just infernal horde spam and pit was purely for epenis pushing, did that change? infernal horde is lowkey a dog shit mode you just kill shit in a room in waves and pump loot. The very very end game was always boring as shit but the journey up to it was fun, if my class was clearing t8 infernal hordes I would reroll or quit.
>>737993124Are you retarded? You can literally make any fucking build work in all content but pit pushing. You can literally randomize your skill selection and you will still end up in max torment and able to do literally 99% of content in this game.You're complaining a non meta build can't reach the same floors as a meta build - no shit. That's why some stuff is meta.
>>737993207But some numbers go way up than others. E.g Vessel of hatred launch, my spiritborne hit for trillions while my necro hit for billions. It's a vibe killer for me. Diablo is a game of multiplicative maxxing and whatever build has the most is the best. Spiritborne exposed the fuck out of that since they had some bugged node that gave them like 100x damage and blizz refused to hotfix it for months. Literally as pay to win as possible, every other class just felt pointless to play. Why farm uniques and mythics on my necro when my spiritborne would one shot the boss.
>>737993238War plans make you do all the end game stuff and they're by far the best way to level and grind gear.
>>737993307Maybe because you enjoy necro more? Are we playing different games? Who cares if a node is bugged? Just don't skill it.
>>737993352Before, you could farm shit like upgrade materials, mythic gear (Purple items) on any class and your alts would benefit, so like half the fucking content in the game felt useless to grind on necro when I know my spiritborne would finish it 10x faster.
>>737993405>Don't enjoy sb>Play sb anywayidk you sound retarded
>>737993190I respect your decision truly but that paragon board I am not doing myself it's too min max'y by nature with how the pathing and nodes and shit play out. Skill tree and gearing yes I can handle on my own but paragon is another element of autism I don't want to bother with.
>>737993445Were you even there? the class hit for fucking trillions it was absolutely retarded balancing. Literally 100x stronger than anything else. Who wasn't playing spiritborne.
>>737993445Also I have played every class to end game so expansion launch was my spiritborne playthrough. I fucking hate that class it's so gay. Druid mogs it.
>>737993493Then don't play it or don't use the trillion damage node. Are you dumb?
>>737993493>Literally 100x strongerIt was like 100000x stronger literally
>>737993703I've played every class to end game and spiritborne playthrough was VoH, love or hate I wanted to experience the class fully. I mean I don't HATE it, but I don't feel it justifies itself as a class. Warlock has a similar issue. The "Druid but diff" or "necro but diff" is lame
>>737968526all the classes, esp base game, need to be reworked because warlock may as well be playing D5 compared to them. or more accurately, it's more like going back to D3 covering the screen in the most crazy over the top VFX, compare to something like Sorc which may as well be walking around dribbling piss on enemies.
>>737993703NTA but this doesn't fly and you know it, the integrity of the game is fucked if you have bugged abilities, but this isn't really relevant to his first point which is that diablo would require 100 hours of theory crafting which is not true and most builds can probably finish the game.
>>737971603The Vessel of Hatred expansion can quite literally be summed up as "Mephisto took Akarat's body to LARP as him in the Lord of Hatred expansion." That's literally it.
>>737990274>shilling for nublizzard>calling others goysoh im laffin with 2 f's
just a glimpse at the MMO-tier itemization tells me all I needed to know
>>737993785It's the other way aroundthe base classes and paladin feel true to form and spiritborne / warlock feel like retarded out of place DLC classes. Yeah as a warlock you just press a button and some random demon starts sperging out or fireball go boom but sorc would have more combo gameplay, it's one button (warlock) vs piano gameplay (Sorc).
>>737974883minion AI is still garbage so you will be 3 screens ahead of them now instead of 2 because blood rush is back baby
>>737993867you are RAPED
>>737993821That 100 hour meme was probably more like 50 but this was also on initial d4 launch when nightmare 100 was genuinely the hardest content in the game and no matter what I did blood just could not reliably kill shit in time to complete them. It was the only time I theory crafted heavily in an arpg and only because the game was brand new so I thought people may have missed stuff.
>>737968802it's diablo game, sorceress is always op
>>737968526Is it ever explained why Lilith showed up in a notEasternEuro church?
>>737993821The integrity of what? You being too retarded to play the way you want to? I'd agree of content was not possible on other classes but alas even at that time every class could access all content. You ruined your own game.
>>737968526Yeah it's kino. My Rogue got rekted. Currently playing a Sorcerer
>>737986068see>>737993837
>>737993970you mean Inarius? Lilith got summoned from the Void, I think the summoning happened in Hawezar
>>737976393>PaladinVery strong. Very boring. There is very little diversity with builds. You play the same shit as almost everyone else. You do very little and win, it's also hard to die as Paladin until late game.>WarlockWitch Doctor from Diablo 3 under a new name. It only really gets crazy late game. You're kinda slow to begin with.>SpiritbornNever played it. Shit campaign. Shitty aesthetics. Ugly armor.
yescurrently running the laziest character I have ever made its incredibly funPure summon necro they do all the work i just collect
>>737968802I’m halfway through my first time playing whirlwind barbarian. It’s a pretty safe choice, but I might have gone with something a bit more dynamic if I were to start over. Although it is a arpg and you are meant to smash every button continuously. A good tip an anon gave me is to finish the campaign as quickly as possible, as you will be overleveled if you do too much side stuff. Also remember to increase the difficulty as you get better equipment to make it more challenging.
>>737994012Bugged or over-tuned abilities definitively hurt the enjoyment of games even single player games. Like you won't even see boss mechanics as they would die in one hit, imagine a world of warcraft raid boss dying in one hit, you seem dense if this is difficult to understand.
>>737994146No, the early cutscene where she shows up in the village church. It just seemed weird to me that some gigademon would present herself to some peasants in a village out in nowhere, but I will admit that my knowledge of the lore and workings of the world is minimal.
>paid marketer kept this thread up for en entire nightLMAO HHAHAHAHHAHAH
>>737994308The classes you would like are necro, sorc, rogue. Barbarian is awesome but tends to be "Use 3 shouts and 1 damage button" in every build since launch even non whirl wind.
>>737991796You talk like that act isn't riddled with manipulation and happened only to further his strategy
>>737993469It's just path to the glyph and legendary nodes until you have 5 then fill out the rest with rare and magic. It's really not complicated. D4 is made for retards, you can figure it out.
>>737994464maybe because Inarius was in Kyovashad? I can't say either desu
Where the FUCK are the fat boys that explode and leave worms?!I
complete and utter shit gamefaggots said the game would be different but end game is EXACTLY the sameworthless devs and delusional lying player base
>literally every Warlock has Nether Step
>>737994914>complete and utter shit game>faggots said the game would be different but end game is EXACTLY the same>worthless devs and delusional lying player base
>>737994998Every sorc has teleport so.
>>737994683>pretend janny application status: 78th denial
uh oh paki melty!
>when called out, the jeet named his ancient enemy (also a jeet but with a different name)HAHA you can't make this shit up
I've played this shit so you don't need to. Feel free to paste it into every paid marketer thread. The game is shit and at this point beyond repair unless miracle like RoS happens>backgroundbought it on premiere, regretted it. Played s1-5 due to buyers remorse, then never hit a lvl cap in next seasons due to game being just horrible>performanceit stutters a lot, especially when some retard enters your screen. Usually other players skill are shaded to avoid distraction, but not warlock and paladin. Enjoy constantly mistaking monster effects for their skills>skill treeBiggest FRAUD. It's actually WORSE than previous one and people wondered how can you do it. It's literally>pick a main skill>pick one of 2 options, 2 times>pick one of 3 options, actually 2 because 3rd is locked behind having xpacand that's it. Since it's an xpac launch, there's no seasonal thememost of the busywork is removed. You do not enhance your hp pot. Most of other crafting mats got removed and changed into basic normal/magic/rare/legendary materialLegendary drop rates are much lower, yet the system that requires you to farm X times of the same one to upgrade it is still theremore than half of season ranks upgrades are paywalled beyond xpac. To get next tier, you need to complete extremely boring and long dungeon with usual "click X or soak to proceed". Dungeons doesn't have special loot anymore. Sigils are worthless now, they add something like increased gold, loot, obols or whatever. Helltides are also nerfedIntroduction of things PoE player like the most - random oneshots that happen even if you change to lowest difficulty and you never know who and how killed youdifficulty tier are locked beyond not-nephalem rift. It's straight up nephalem rift, but worseparagons and glyphs are mostly unchanged. Maybe leveling glyphs is fasteras usual, paladins and warlocks are OP compared to the rest to market them, just like faggotborn1/2
2/2you do mostly the same shit to progress, but in way more boring style. How they made game even more neutered is beyond me. It's like castrating already castrated guy. Holy shitonly change I liked was bossing - you get keys from doing other activities. Those keys are used to open chest AFTER killing one of several bosses, so you're free to check if you can kill the boss without losing mats. Those chests have chance to give medium tier keys to kill medium tier bosses. And then those give keys for high tier bosses.lilith fight is still a mess none wants to do and it should be removed at this point. The prime example of design fuckery beyond comprehensionIf you check xpac price, and what's locked behind xpac, you realize it's a cheap marketing strategy, and the expansion is simply not worth the price, unless you're a retard bothered with half of your character power being locked behind it. If you buy, you realize you got played like in chink gacha, but this time without cute anime girlI had fun for like 20 minutes, when I got my golems and skellies online. Rest of my power was locked behind uniques and legendaries for summon necro not dropping. I've that sour taste in my mouth, that I wasted time playing this. I gave it a fair go, but the game is dogshit and I wonder if I give it another go ever, since they managed to make things worsethanks for not reading my blogpost. My sincere belief is, that fi you defnd this game, you're either a paid shill, a retard with poor taste, or a retard like me who bought this shit and now tries to cope with buyers remorse
>>737996069lol the game doesn't even work unless ur current expansion. Why would you play this game without it? #1 class rn is sorc btw :P https://helltides.com/pit
>>737996131>>737996069Yet I tried poe 2 and it's the same game except 90% of the end game is trading. You never find shit you need reliably, it's just finding currencies and items for other classes to trade off and buy what you need. The end game is different levels of farming shit to sell for currency as well. Every build is "Juice 1 button and nuke screen". You have to do an equally dog shit and even longer campaign EVERY TIME you roll a char in poe 2.D4 isn't perfect but at least the game is designed around solo self found and it's getting better. Gameplay wise they're practically identical. Poe 2 has a bit better game feel but it doesn't matter due to juice one button autism poe 1 and 2 both encourage
>>737996147>lol the game doesn't even work unless ur current expansionremember their promise now? for sure notalso>check xpac features>it's just unlocks that reverts nerfsyeach lol, imagine buying it. It feels like extortion to get your character power back
>>737980225that's not spanish,negro.
>>737996240why do you reply to me with poe2 shit, none fucking said anythign about poe2 outside oneshots aka domething you DON'T want in your game and happens in first, nto second game as far as I know
>>737994718Cool, will probably stick with the barbarian till max level/endgame, but will def try something new if I get the expansions
>>737996243Absolutely, but what I mean is your argument is like playing d2 without lord of destruction. The sheer amount of expansions d4 is pumping out is scummy but I don't see a reason to play arpg without newest content. Poe 2 is much better for that. Isn't it like you get 10 more levels in d4 expac? I'm assuming the skill tree barely functions if you're not current expansion with shit like that.
>>737968526Now that the dust has settled, I'm having a blast because this game is a return to form. It has beautiful visuals for old and new fans alike. It's fun with friends and very performative.
>>737996481Druid, rogue, necro sorc have satisfying "every button feels important" gameplay usually. Barb is a buff yourself to hell and back and use your damage, Paladin is sort of like barbarian just uses auras instead of shouts. Tbh the classes in d4 feel really good usually, I don't personally like warlock but i also don't hate it, I'd just rather play necro or sorc.
>>737996537I've no problem with new powerups being locked behind new xpac. It's completely understandablewhat's not, is actually taking away things you already had, powers and locking it BEHIND xpac. That's holding you hostage to get back what you already hadyes, lvl cap is 70 and at least you're not locked with levels behind xpac. SKill tree works, because their change was literal prune passives and shuffle skilsl around to look like it's more branched. But now it's even more castarted as per options I mentioned. It also nerf +skill affixes on your gear, ebcause now skills have 15 levels instead of 5. So having +5 to skeleton casters is not as huge as before
>>737983994PoE crafting is ass, if you want crafting play Last Epoch
Didn't play the first expansion so I decided to play Spiritporn this time, did I fuck up?
>>737991745So much arrogance from someone who can't read>I don't play a holy character to work for demons >but working for demons is actually the right thing to do in this story
>>737996948>I would rather let the entire world be doomed to hell for all eternity than get help from a demon who has the same goal as meretard
>>737996252No, it sure looks like. It's not English.
>>737997013Learn to read you fucking subhuman. The justification doesn't make people want to engage with the story>what if you could save millions of people but you had to eat babies >can you make it so that I don't have to eat babies >but it would be the right thing to do in the storyHow would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
>>737997191You don't have to engage with it, you're still retarded if that's where you draw the line. In the first 30 minutes of the game you are inexorably linked to a demon, the same demon. If you cared at all, you would have make your character an hero right then and there. But you didn't because you don't. You're moralfagging for some imaginary bullshit in a game about imaginary bullshit. It's retarded.
No. The game poses no challenge so I dropped it. I enjoyed the first boss because it had me dodging and weaving projectiles. Some of the enemies were ok too because they had attacks I had to dodge, but a lot are just mindless enemies that you obliterate with ease. There’s also no consequence for dying because you just get up right where you died, which sucks any semblance of challenge and fun left out of the game. I tried hardcore mode and enjoyed it for a while, but then I got instantly one shotted by a random wizard mini boss while I was strolling along and lost 20 hours worth of progress. So basically you either have no challenge whatsoever, or too much challenge. It just sucks. Too many games three days focus on grinding and not on action.
>>737997560>I played the game on easy mode and it was too easytry hardcore
Give it to me straight, how is warlock? Can I do a dot build?
>>737997560I don't wanna be that guy but that is the genre at this point. Poe2 baited everyone , people called it "Elden ring ARPG" because the campaign feels like that but when you hit level 40+ it's the same shit in that game also. There's no way to keep a good challenge up in these games, everything is just math'ing your way to retarded power levels so it won't ever be balanced.
>>737997658You want to finish reading my post before replying next time?
>>737997537>not wanting to engage with a story because you don't like that type of story is moralfagging
>>737997714No, and I never will
>>737997537>I don't like iseaki story where you have slaves >what are you some kind of moralfag? watch it anyway And people tell you that 4chan doesn't have paid shills
>>737997689Boring as shit and no you can't do DoTs. It's a turret class.
>>737997689It's Witch Doctor with a different skin and theme though heavier into the temporary summon stuff.So no, not really.
>>737997830>>737998013>I was fine with the dogshit story right up until the point where I had to get help from a demon because I am a man of christ and would rather doom the world to eternal damnation at the hands of mephisto than entertain the ideaThe story is ass, but to have that of all places be where you nope out is moralfaggotry and retarded.
>>737998028It's really not witch doctor. Witch doctor was fun. This is basically an Engineer class reskinned.
So picked it up again after how much I hated it on release.>skill tree is somehow even more braindead than before>almost everyone plays the same shit with very little changes>almost all of the things that forced even the tiniest amount of thinking have been removed, it's now even more mobile tier braindead then before>Warlock and Paladin are somehow incredibly boring. There is very little flare to them early on. >Paladin is more like a mobile mid range to semi close range caster with a light theme, very little impact from a lot of his skills, very little input from his two strongest builds>Warlock is a worse version of Witch Doctor and even more boring and slowFor a second I had hope, they immediately killed off that annoying Asian Mary Sue and I heard they were doing a whole reset of the story because of how poorly it was received but I struggled to complete the game with how boring the DLC story is. You get into the game and basically just follow the Horadrim guy and fight small packs for the first couple hours while you constantly wait around for people to say bullshit.How is it so fucking hard to just let me be a dude who wants to kill Demons? I don't want to make deals with Lilith or any of this other gay shit. Just say Demons are evil and doing evil things, go be a hero.Also the female warlock looks like a fucking tranny. Not that I'd want to play a Female, but fuck, couldn't you at least make her not look like a fucking tranny?
>>737998330>he keeps giving them his moneyIt's your own fault, really
>>737996618Gotcha, I admit I did go in blind and didn’t really research any of the classes too much. Went with barbarian cause he’s a brute that can fuck shit up in melee. Think I might go with rogue or druid next then, or paladin if I get the expansion. Btw how does the skip campaign part work when starting a new character in terms of leveling?
>>737998437You have to complete the campaign at least once. Once you have, it auto selects the skip campaign when you make a new character. You can choose to do the story again if you want to, but nobody ever wants to.
>>737968526iz new expansion reaper of souls liek?
>>737998330I disagree with almost everything you wrote, except the trannylock comment. I think you’re just a joyless faggot and the reason the game isn’t fun for you is because you never intended to enjoy it in the first place
>poefags so buttmad they have to shit up diablo threadskek, every time
>>737998781>Projecting again
>>737998781no man, it 100% is different people dropping AI written walls of texts all formatted the same :^)
>>737999040>projectingso he's mad about PoE being bad and not the PoE players? Interesting idea.
I bought original D4, it was kinda shit so i didn't bothered with first DLC, does this one fix the game? Sell me on it faggots.
>>738000137Depends on what you mean by fix?They moved most of the basic build stuff off of legendaries and on to the skill tree, and each ability can be pumped up to 15, there's no useless +3% damage shit in the tree anymore, so you can make a build without having gear for it. Gear enhances it. Uniques no longer have set stats and you can use those to refine specific build powers, but still hunt for better ones. Yellow and white items are now useful. Everything is tradeableHorardric cube is now a part of crafting and transmutation. There's actually quite a lot of crafting to do.Sets have come in the form of charms, so you can have both sets and gear. There's rune-words which give you access to other classes skills.There's 3 new classes. There's plenty of end-game shit and uber bosses.But if you don't like zoomzooming around mindlessly killing shit this DLC won't make you like it.
is there ultra endgame aspirational content that is commensurate with rewards? like the biggest issue i had with previous seasons was that running higher levels in the Pit was pointless since going deeper did not improve drops. everything felt like blizzard did not dare gatekeep godly gear behind anything challenging because it would piss off the casuals
>>737998487Right, but you start over from level 1 right?
When are they going to actually allow us to hide weapons instead of cockteasing us with the option being in the game but not working?
>>738001668Yes, but with all your gold, stash and bonus skill points you collected.
It is so enjoyable this season not seeing the same metashit build from everyone when you do a legion event or a world boss. But where's all the Necro players, I've seen a grand total of one.Also Warlock skills are just pure visual aids, stop spamming the demon hands, it looks like shit.
>>738002201Right here. I'm also the only necro I have seen. Everyone is either Warlock or Paladin, which makes sense.
>>738002570Damn you have the entire bone brigade with youthat's a lot of skelemans
>>738002201Probably because everyone is coping the same build. Im trying to do a summoned build, but i have no clue which items actually support this build and i dont feel like looking up loot tables, kinda ruins the fun
>>737968526Why does raytracing look worse? Left is off, right is on
not planning on buying it ever
is Diablo going to have boobs and wide hips again?
>>738002660Used to have 17 warriors but it was because of a bugged aspect granting +5 warriors and they hotfixed it :(
>>737968994if your girl cant play this shes a retard the game is made for retards
>>738003054They look identical to me. I don't use RT even though I have a 5080. Even if it did look better it's just not the kind of game that can benefit from having it
>>738003405This is true and I love the gamet. I'm a retard. But it's fun
>>7380034510.5 cant come soon enough
Story is mind numbingly boring.I would rather there be no story than what we have. I start on the new expansion (I skipped Spiritborn) and I am bored to tears. I start off in the middle of a desert town hearing about Akarat and talking to the old guy. He then takes me to another place and we talk again. Then we go to another place and talk again only to get attacked by dozens and dozens of monsters with my single skill attack where I do no fucking damage. It takes fucking ages to get past all of this and we get to a new location only to spend ages walking around and talking to NPCs all over again and more and more cutscenes. Then I finally get to go outside the city, but there is nothing out there to do, which would have been fine if the monster packs were bigger and I was a higher level to be able to do the typical ARPG slaughtering, but I'm stuck with these really boring skills that do shit damage until I'm around level 10 where I finally get to do more stuff. The story though, still the same. Go from one location to another, talking to NPCs, playing this shitty story in what is basically a single player MMO at this point, bad skill tree included, and then I kill a handful of monsters that just appear all around me EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, then I go to another place to talk to someone about meaningless bullshit while they yammer on and on and I get forced into more and more cutscenes.This story is so fucking shit and boring and completely ANTI-ARPG that I've barely gotten past the half way point of this new expansion. I keep taking breaks because I'm so fucking bored.>but ARPG's aren't about storiesI know, but the combat is so hilariously shit with this awful Skill TWIG, it's not a skill tree, it's a skill twig, that I have to focus on something.
>>737968526sex with the crazy oracle
The game is way better now, practically what it should have been on release.Now they actually have the foundations to build something truly great, if they even want to make more expansions.
Game is ok after you beat campaign, i enjoy but campaign is full of shit, in the lore god purge all evil from himself and create dragon, dragon then become hell and he become heaven there is no lore reason to demons feel anything good. I hate this satanist propaganda, fucking blizzard shit.
>>738003781Lilith isn't good, that's why she's dead.The Angels aren't good either, the point of Diablo is that no side wants or understand what's best for humanity.
>>738003579True, thank fuck you only have to beat it once then all characters for the rest of the expansion can start in endgameI never actually even beat the vessel campaign so i've never got to use runes until now
>>738000562>They moved most of the basic buithey gutted most of the shit and visually changed to resemble a tree branches while having all the same shit and indirectly nerfin +skill affixes on items>Yellow and white items are now useful. not useful at all if they doesn't drop as ancestral>Horardric cube is now a part of craftindont have xpac so dunno>Sets have come in the form of charms, so you can have both sets and gear. i would say ok, but then I can see them being lazy fucks trying to avoid making another 3d set. Also there's no custom sets usable by all classes>There's 3 new classes. lies, there's 2, faggotborn is not new>There's plenty of end-game shit and uber bosses.ubers are locked behind farming low tier bosses lairs using keys you need to farm and pray for upper tier key to drop>But if you don't like zoomzooming around mindlessly killing shit this DLC won't make you like it.it IS zoom zoom until you zoom fast enough to do a rift and unlock new difficulty tierif you lie, at least pay attention>>737998609I can relate, since I gave the game a solid try. I wonder how they managed to screw this hard when you get more fun and dopamine rush from moving down disney d3 monsters than d4>>737999805yeach, good forbid people having opinion and calling you out, paid faggot marketer>>738002706lack of ready builds from maxroll just exposes how braindead leftovers community have.Hover over skill. It has keywords like minion, summon, macabre etc. Now Open your codes and in filter check those. Now you can see which legendary have which effect so you can aim to get that effect on items, like minion deal 90% increased damage, skeletons attack faster etc. Focus on collecting theseThen, you sometimes pick up scrolls for smith. Rightclick them, then go to smith, reforge items to have + 40-80% icnreased summon damage. Glvos, jewelry and weapon can roll these. Roll moving speed on boots, and then some defensives you liek on the rest. Just just need to read
>Are (You) having fun?Not really.I haven't played since release. I didn't play the expansion with the ugly brown people. I thought I'd check this out since I wasn't playing anything and I wanted to play as a Paladin. But I'm honestly thinking of quitting already.>Paladin has been okay so far but I don't feel particularly strong. I've been upgrading my gear but I feel like the scaling shit is slowly making me feel weaker and weaker. I even decided to finally follow a top ranked leveling build, but my build was just better. If someone has a suggestion, I am open.>Second issue is like others have said; the campaign and story is very boring. I'm several hours in and I keep getting mixed messages. Lillith is a good guy now or something? I don't really get it. The only positive so far is that they killed that annoying Asian woman. Honestly, they need a completely clean slate going forward. Kill off everyone. Change the story to, "Demons appeared yet again, go kill them". No quest for a magical item that we only found out about til now. No mystery fags appearing to tell us shit. No. Just let me go on a heroes journey to kill the bad guys. That's it.Oh and the skill tree is supposed to be amazing now? I don't really get it. It just twists and turns but in the end, it looks the same. Builder Spender slop...?
>>738003971She literally sacrifice herself for you, it should not be possible for being like demon, and they shit on lore which i provide if demons are not evil and angels are not good
>>738004159Im talking about literally not knowing which aspects exist to improve my build, not how to use them effectively anon, but thanks anyway
>>738004348Lilith thought humanity was weak, she thought we needed a "stronger" guidance.You show her that you can kill her and face Mephisto, she has no purpose being here, she was only here in the first place because a cult called her.In the first campaign you can clearly see how a demon can't lead humanity because they're simply too brutal, same way I arius is too lawful.
>>737968526Dunno why people dont like Diablos story, it's awesome imo. I swear like 90% of the criticism of Diablo is from gambling autists who just rush to end game to farm
It's a dam shame console niggers nig'd this game with the 6 skills on your bar hard limit. With this new tree you have so many points you COULD spend on more than 6 skills but you literally cannot fucking use them so GG. People's complaints about you just max skills and put 3 points buffing it is because of that gay ass limit. Minion necro is still pure afk build because you need to waste your entire bar on the actual minions instead of having them default and taking utility shit like bone prison , tendrils etc. The fantasy would be fucking perfect too your minions do 99% of damage while you augment them and control the battlefield with CC etc. Instead you just fucking stand there lmao. All because controller niggers can't handle more than 6 buttons. Fucking RAPED this game because of that
>>738004348it's only possible because writters are colossal retards fixated on irl culture warsit's like diablo suddenly calling you "my fren" if you travel with him enough. Demons do not change, because they're living representation of aspects, like hate, terror etc. Some demons broke away from eternal conflcit not because if change, bt because some aspects can't stomach war for fucking eternity without resolutionlilith was literal "oh so my halfbreeds are superpowered? I'll use them to end eternal conflict... by beating both sides to pulp and enslaving them". Books with Rathma represent it perfectly, with him acting as a literal balance between his demon mother and angelic father. Lilith point in d4 was literal mass culling to leave only humans with potential while using rest as a feeding grounds for demonsbut that would require shizard writters to first read, and then not be a raging faggots about anything not written by them, because their fanfic MUST be better than original>>738004574it's called being invested, A fan straight up eats every bit of info he's provided. Research lore and look at it from every angle possible. That's how fandom act. Normalfags doesn't buy bonus diablo books, fans do. Someone who just plays without paying attention wont spot problems and mistakes d4 makes. Like that subtle thing like Inarius killing off Rathma. Someone who doesn't know about lore will think how horrible a father killed his son. Meanwhile, Inarius was split bewteen hating his son due to him being half demon, and seeying a perfection since half of him was HIS son, and Rathma exploited Inarius inability to kill him multiple times. Like at the most boiling point, Inarius banished him tot he void instead of killing him, because killing ratham means that he wasn't perfect and by extension Inarius creation is not perfect, and he cannot have that. So the first thing fan did when seeying ratham dead was READ THE BOOKS BLIZZTRANNY
>>738004981Lilith has the whole gay demon is good shit going on but it's been there since the base game and is explained as her being the mother of sanctuary1) she fugged a literal angel2) muh mother of humansIt's only a problem if there are more than just Lilith for good demons, as it stands now she is an exception but it sorta makes sense ig
>>737991796i think tyrael did more good for humanity than every demon combined>b-but he isnt an angelhe was an angel when he helped humanity and continued doing the same thing after he lost his wings
>>738005242tyrael was the exception, frequently acting on his own volition and against the high heavens to help humanity
>>737968526>no 4 player local coop>always onlineI will not buy(rent) your game
>>738005308>the angel that helped humanity more than every demon combined is an exception so he doesnt countniggerbabble, the post said the random imp did more than angels ever did and clearly based on my example thats a retarded statementnow go ahead and move that goal post faggot
>>738005130>1) she fugged a literal angelshe did not. The made a clay idol and poured their essences into it creating Rathma. Other demons and angels copied them. Inarius was half ITS PERFECT ITS MINE and FUCKING ABONOMINATION. Lilith wanted to hold him like a true mom but got instantly disgusted when kid reached out to her with tiny hands>2) muh mother of humansthat mother was literal demon who responded with berserk mode when rathma told her that demons and angels are concerned that their kid(nephalems) grow in power extremly fast and that would cause hell and heavens to notice sanctuary. Lilith killed them all jsut for that concern alone. After that, she was doing everything to have nephalems on her side to beat hell and heavens into submission. the "mother of humanity" is literal mother of a single nephalem, that caused so much grief to every other nephalem, edyrems and Uldyssian on topthe entire point of books is to show that there's no good demons and no evil angels. Both act in extremes, and Rathma, later entire priesthood of rathma(necromancer) and the tranqhul or whatever dragon is to be scions of balance. That balance means tellign heavens and hell to fuck off and leaving humanity for themselves. At the end of sin wars, you have literal mephisto comign to heavens to make a pact about leaving sanctuary alone
>>738005406nothing i said was wrong
>>738005308no, tyreal act exactly within his authority. Both hell and heavens work in extremes. People feared that sanctuary gonna get burned down because of tyrael alone, becaus ehe was extreme in his aspect, just like others are extremes in theirsyou think tyrael is good because his authority fits the narration that befits player. There's multiple isntances, when his authority would be a colossal menace. It's like a extreme rain that's a blessign durning forest fire, but otherwise will cause a floodnow hus authority is wisom, so his extremism in that is less lethal
>>737968526Diablo is goated nowPath of Excrement btfo
how tf do u level an alt? getting raped level 8 on penitent.
>>738004574Shitbrowns are invested in pooe because they make their living RMTing divine orbs. So they attack Diablo by default
is warlock the best class by far (in endgame) like it was on D2R RotW release?or its on par with other top classes? (what are those btw?)
>>738006780mr tourist, for years diablo threads could't last 10 posts in and was only discussed when it lached into other arpg threads like poe, last epoch or grim dawnyou have thread now because for example, there was a paid shill bumping the thread entire night. Week, even day before xpac launch, even witht railer up, thread was dying under 20 posts. Same with generals. VM general is extremly slowit was the same with VoH launch, and it's the same with wow. WoW last longer because people often go there to shit on blizzard so 90% of posts is pure shitstormyou would know it if you werent paid to bump
I dunno I just like the game. I dunno. I don’t really have time to argue about stuff online anymore about Boizzard and wokeshit and poe2 endgame and
>>738006053Turn the difficulty down?
What do I do with gold?I have so much but it's completely useless
>>738008820resoeccing warplans costs like 57 million for one node and crafting is expensive as fuck
welp i just refunded the expansion , i don't support devs that strip content from skill tree, then paywall 1/3rd of itall the fanboys just like defending that shit on forums when looking this up is pure cancercan't trust the devs to not do this in the future and fuck you if you dont buy the latest expansion
reddit spacing lol
>>738009473thats fine its whatever my extension makes itbut fuck that shit, they took existing skills and put it behind a paywall
corpse explosion not being a spender seems weird. i literally am not using a resource spender atm on necro.
>>738010071>but fuck that shit, they took existing skills and put it behind a paywallproofs?
I refuse to play any ARPG that has that "all items are colorful squares of the same size" inventory. It was literally perfect in Diablo 2, and all they needed to do was simply copy it, as other ARPGs do, but no, we ended up with that MMO trash. A two-handed sword should take up a third of the inventory, while a rune or gem should occupy just one slot, and boots and gloves should each take up four.
>>738011861>Yes, I do want inventory management to be shit
>>738011861this isn't resident evil. inventory management has no meaningful impact on gameplay decisions or pacing
Love Apoc warlock, currently in T8, satisfying to have a big "fuck you" nuke that you can cast every few seconds
>>738012219It looks like shit and triggers me
>>738012406I only played when the game first game out so most classes are new to me so I went rogue, but I am looking forward to warlock next season
I am actually enjoying myself so much more than I thought I would but the movement in POE2 has ruined me, it feels sluggish here now even though I don't remember thinking that at all when I played at launch. Suffering through VoH now, kind of wish i'd skipped it but whatever, I'll go through it the one time.
>>738008126I guess, just did campaign no issues penitent so thought it'd be fine for an alt too.
>>738012820VoH goes really quickly, at least
>>737968526By far the best ARPG on the market
>>738004909truly one of the worst changes from D2 onwards it is just a shame that you are so limited in your builds
>>738011861only gripe i have is that big items should vendor for more than they currently do.
D4 bad
>do nothing>win
>Game so dead, Blizzjeet has to spam /v/ with it to remind people it still exists.G r i mrim
What is a good ARPG with good graphics? Not interested in shit with a cash shopbonus points if I can play a summoner with a fuck huge army
>>738016179>What is a good ARPG with good graphics?Poe 2>Not interested in shit with a cash shopThere is literally no such game thenbonus points if I can play a summoner with a fuck huge armyPoe 2
>>738016179Nioh 2
>>738016179poe1, dunno hwo poe2 minion workslast epoch lets you have pretty huge, diverse army
>>738016179An arpg with all your criteria does not exist.
Who the FUCK thought the horadrim dungeon was a good idea I'm gonna break their fuckin legs.
I never finished the spiritborn campaign, was that even worth the effort?
>>738018119No. Literally (literally) nothing happens.
>>738018164Alright then, full speed ahead.
>>737968526>bloatware>built like a f2p mobile title>level scaling>horrible writingit would be questionable to spend time on this even if it was for free
>>738018324yes but this is a Diablo thread enough about Poo 2 and it's 2 melee weapons (1 is for monk)
>>738018865poe is a cynical piece of shit too, and an early access one at that, but let's not pretend that makes d4 any better
How much fun is this compared to PoE2? I'm more interested in the artstyle and setting of Diablo, but like the build variety of POE
>>738019821ex poe 1 player here and it's fun. It feels like this expansion should've been how the game released. You'll probably only get a week of hard play out of it if no life. Full disclosure so you know where I am coming from: I despise PoE 2 with all of my heart and laugh at how it has less builds than D3, much less D4. It's literally just a shitty version of PoE 1 now
>>738019821Diablo 4 plays more like MMO than ARPG. As for build diversity, just have a look at Mobalytics, if you like what you see, good luck lol.
>>738019821https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/endgame-tier-listHere are the 'established' builds. I think all of them are T10+ capable. Compare it to PoE Ninja and if you're not lying to yourself you noootice something.
>>738020596>https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/endgame-tier-listI made it to Torment 10 with a HoTA/Mighty Throw Barb I just made up myself (The lair bosses are kicking my ass but that's probably from a lack of actually good gear more then anything, honestly)I actually do think the number of "viable" builds in this game is going to be very, very high.
>>738020596>>738020807Because Diablo 4 is made for retards.
>>738020862>Diablo 4 has way WAY more viable builds than Poo 2 because it's for retardsthen who is Poo 2 made for? People in fucking comas?
>>738021116He's a Jonathantard. He didn't understand you were saying Diablo has more builds. You have to understand that Jonathantards only understand supporter packs, welfare, and jacking off to Quin and Mathil.
>>738021116Builds in Diablo 4 are viable because the game is ridiculously easy.Poe 2 has plenty of viable builds, you just suck. People have literally beaten endgame bosses without any gear.
>>738021408>Builds in Diablo 4 are viable because the game is ridiculously easy.>Poe 2 has plenty of viable builds, you just suck.the sheer cope HAHAhey which weapon should my melee equip? Should I use a mace... or maybe a mace? Which of 4 skills? LOL
>>738021408you should get to maps one day and you'll realize Poo 2 is easy as fuck too and you one button blast just like PoE 1 You have to beat the long boring campaign first though, Jonathantard
>>738021587What are you even talking about? There are three melee weapons in poe 2
>>738021737thats funny, my Barbarian is currently carrying 4 different melee weapons lol
>>738021837And they all use the same six skills.
I'm taking no damage, then I get nuked. Dose this mean I have to get resistances?
>>738021737and the skills are not locked to those weapons making the distinction pointless, right?RIGHT?lmao
>>738021837AXES, DAGGERS, SWORDS AND FLAILS ARE ADDED IN 0.5 PLEASE TRUST THE PLAN
>>738021896more than Poo 2, sounds good to me 1 button spam ADHD game
holy shit, i just finished replaying the original campaign, as i havent played VoH and wanted to do a full run and the immediate transition from le epic neyrelles quest ending cutscene to the opening of VoH was hilarious. After 5 minutes of her talking about her grand plans we immediately see her having a full breakdown and crying for her mommy.
>>738021896certain skills often only work with one weapon type for example, HoTA can only be cast with your Two Handed Mace, but Whirlwind works with anything. Frenzy 1H Weapons only, but something like Flay or Rend only works with Bladed weapons, which means you can't use them 1 handed if its a mace/flail.
>DoT burst necro now locked behind paywalllmao
>>738021837While the arsenal thing is a good concept gameplay wise, it makes the barbarian look fucking ridiculous, lugging around all those weapons. They can't fix the hide feature soon enough.
heh. You can make some decent custom titles
>>738022037this character is like the one from ffxiv . truly insufferable even though she died I bet she will be dragged back up as some angel or demon girl boss
I never finished the base game (or the expansion I keep getting bored halfway through lmao), but why is Lilith alive? I thought we killed her already.
>>738022202Nah the fact that she is killed off before the start of the new expansion and barely anyone mourns her it's clear Blizzard realized she was a mistake and decided to just get rid of her.
>>738022278she's not really alive, more like talking to (You) because of her blood infecting yours at the start.
>>737968526it's better than it was, but the fundamental design of diablo 4 is flawed, there are so many nonsense systems to make you run on a treadmill to get decent gear at endgame, aspects, codex of power, forcing players to speedrun while swarming them with annoying mobs, ridiculous stat bloat, endgame builds are just covering the screen in one shot kill explosions hoping you don't get caught in a one shot kill mechanic of whatever you're fighting, it's just a complete mess
>>738022278demons don't die, they just respawn in hell after a while.Part of her was dormant in your character because of her blood, and even when she dies for real near the end of LoH she isn't truly dead.
>>738022540>endgame builds are just covering the screen in one shot kill explosions hoping you don't get caught in a one shot kill mechanic of whatever you're fightingSo like D2 and PoE1/2?
>>738022826and Grim Yawn too even though they try to pretend that is not the case
>>738022826yeah, like a 30 year old game, having fun yet?
>>738022165IMAGINE THE SMELL
>>737968526After quitting at season 4, I'm starting from the beginning of the story and doing every quest. It's really comfy so far. I really like the skill tree, it could use tweaking, but they nailed it. At this point, I will just milk it since I got no desire to reach end game. The whole genre needs to be re-invented.
>>738016110It will have a new post-1.0 high ccu tomorrow, so it looks like the Blizzjeet has bested you again! Uh oh, incoming tranny melty.
>diablo IV>look inside>no diablo
so assuming I am a newfag who bought the game with both dlc, do I just skip to the current expansion dlc when making anew character and do everything?
>>737968526D4 good
>>737968526>Are (You) having fun?I tried to like it but the warlock is boring to me
>>738024208I mean if you want to skip the story sure? But you won't understand anything.
>having some fun playing endgame Warlock now >hit the gotta farm runes to craft uniques wall >stop having fun guess I should try a new class, never really played Barb before
>>738011861Oh shit, a new most retarded complaint post. Well done. Can't believe you managed to top the other retard.
>>738020596>maxroll>see minion necro build>look inside>it's a shadow necroEvery fucking time. These retards don't know how to make a minion build.
>>738024181Just a dead dogshit game with 1 post per 10mins by dedicated blizzjeet.
>>738023387End game activities are pretty fun, there's more story content after the main story if that's all you're interested in, to.
>>738026207yeah it was moreso about the list, I wouldn't use their guides nor should anyone need to
>>738023387youll have maxed out paragon before even leaving scosglenyoure right though
>>738026218JonatroonJonatroonyour game's leagues die after FridayJonatroonJonatroonNeon can't fix your game or PoE 1
>>738023387Pffttahahahahaha yeah sure dude im gonna ask your advice on the skill tree instead of blizzard haahahahahaha lol lol lol holy shit dude you’re so fucking delusional
>>738026641I know you really wish you had friends to talk with buddy, but im not your friend. Not yet anyways, whats your discord deets? We can level together.
god i hate arpgs
>>738026880Leveling is often the most fun in the genre, and then it just becomes a musou where you clear screens with a single skill in search for a piece of loot that gives you a single percentage bonus to your stats.
Poo of Excrement's new patch is next week, it will be like this game never even existed.
>>7380272431% increase for every item is literally like 15% more damage and health. Youre such a noob. I bet you don’t have anything good.
>>738026880what the fuck is this it looks like a dying gpu
>paid secondary event battle passguess i'm dropping at the end of the season, shit just went full cod
dropped it after the new campaign cuz warlock just isnt interesting to play
>>738027971>shit just went full cod
>>737968526can i get a qrd on aspects and affixes, and the dos and don'ts
>>738028376You don’t seem to know what day it is. You should go to the park dude, staying inside and playing diablo isn’t good for you.
>>738027483nobody plays Poo 2-1000000 people play Poo 2 after Saturday, 2 days into the "league" (0.5)
I skimmed some of the lore discussion in this thread and I'm glad my knowledge of Diablo lore stops at D1/D2. It's better as a black/white story of good vs. evil.
>>738028376it's not that complicated, just try to pick aspects that are synergistic. if you salvage a legendary with an aspect, it goes to your codex so you can imprint it on any rare/legendary piece of gear later on for a cost. if you find the same aspect with a better roll, salvaging will upgrade the codex to the new rollthere are now a lot of multipliers in the affix pools, so try to pick multipliers that match your damage dealing skills. don't over invest in any one multiplier, because they stack additively. the skill tree will tell you what "tags" your skill has e.g. physical damage, earth skill, nature skill might all simultaneously apply and it would be better to have 3 separate multipliers than to have the same one in 3 affixes that work additively
>>738028723Everything after LOD is non-canon. Kinda like the disney star wars stuff.
>>737968526Just finished the forced campaign. If the base game was a 5 this was a 6 and vessel of hatred was a 1. It all felt really...pointless. Everything from us being saved in the frozen cave in the base game lead up to this but you can summarize the entire game with "Lilith and Inarius made Sanctuary and humanity to fight the Prime Evils or some shit and humanity really sucked ass." Did we really need 1 game and 2 expansions to say that? Also what happened to Lilith? We killed her in the base game and severed the link in this expansion but she's a lesser(?) evil so she can't actually die right?Also Lilith was the good guy all along which 90% of people realized a few hours into the base game.
>>738029318Of course the satanic demon woman was the good guy. The shiny religion man was the bad guy (Whoa! Did I just do a heckin' expectation subversion??); and also, you the player are the bad guy unless you castrate yourself, march against ICE & support trans rights.
>>738029318>Also Lilith was the good guy all along which 90% of people realized a few hours into the base game.no you extreme retard, people that 'realize" that are just as extremly retarded as you, and by extension, shitzard writterswhat part of "I want to cull 90% of humanity so the very best will breed into nephalems so I can end eternal conflict by conquering heaven and hell as a sole eternal ruler>she's a lesser evilnope, prime 3 and lesser 4 come from carcass of 7 headed beast that rotten body created demons and hell. Only this 7 reform just like beast headslilith had brother named lucion. He got killed and Mephisto got extremly pissed about this. So lilith is perma dead unless shitzard will do another "lets break estabilsihed lore for our ORCHESTRAL EPIC MOMENT"
>>738029997ianrius was just as retarded as lilith but in another sense. His deal with making world stone to hide sanctuary and nerf nephalems was a god idea to avoid heaven and hell eyes. But he also wanted to enrf them to rule over them easilyboth lilith and inarius are 2 extremes not compatibile with human nature
>>738030168as opposed to mephisto almost doing the same thing or any other evilbesides humanity is weak and gullible just as she said, it makes perfect sense to take a survival of the fittest approach because it's not like humanity is going to do any better under any of the other evils>So lilith is perma dead unless shitzard will do another "lets break estabilsihed lore for our ORCHESTRAL EPIC MOMENT"anon...you know they will
>>738030294>as opposed to mephisto almost doing the same thing or any other evilmephisto and ell thign overall is to make sanctuary hell v2 to expand their domain, breeding humans for infinite torture. A less merciful outcome than lilith one. See: Triune>besides humanity is weak and gullible just as she said, it makes perfect sense to take a survival of the fittest approach because it's not like humanity is going to do any better under any of the other evilsnope again, she's a villian jsut on par like any other. She doesn't give a fuck about humanity and what humans think, because demon nature prevents her from realizing this and she was only "ok" when between her and inarius was Rathma, balancing his parents retardet natureit's literaly "wow she's a saviour because she wanted to genocide 90% instead of 100%". MC straight up smiles to a figure of a demon that caused literal apocalypse avoided only because Uldyssian sacrificed himself to change Tyrael's voteit's like MC is proud of killing mega hitler and then he smiles to mega stalin for his noble "sacrifice". It wasn't noble nor sacrifice. It was final "fuck you" to mephisto, using enemy of my enemy is my temporal allythe whole point is that a flood of normalfags who never touched diablo lore simply cannot comprehend that demons and angels operate in extremes, making whole "lilith was a hero" theme extremly hilarous for anyone who isn't a retard
>>738030713diablo lore changes with each game
>>738030863it was changed a little with d3, with expanding on soulstones and making heaven and hell more greyish and retarded, but it was in lined4 is your typical nu-blizzard retardation from hair-colored trannoids who hate source material, thinkign their fanfic is better. Having demons and angels oeprating on completely diffirent schemes and emotions is way more fun and entertaining that another "conflcited gumans but with horns/wings"angels were le good, hell was always evil. You play the game to mvoe down legions of demons, not to uestion 'not all devils". The morally grey bullshit already overstayed it's welcome in writing
>>738020596the fuck theres a minion barb now? alright maybe i will try this since i played paladin launch and it doesnt seem like the most busted thing there changed much (the auradin arbiter form build). long as either of those two classes are good i'll be happy since im a giant fag and like the way those two look the most of all the classes (well necro was fun too for full summon lazyness, tried that once)
They added T2 sets to the cash shopBlizzard is going to make so much fucking money from this, aren't they
>>738033364it's pretty funny, you do the warcries and the ancients pop out and shit on everything
>>738033453Why does a full priced game+expansions still have microtransactions? Horse armor really was the start of the slippery slope.
>>738033453is that 28 fucking dollars?
>>738033453what is a T2 set? just cosmetics?
>>738033846don't be ridiculousIt's $24.99 plus tax plus tip plus convenience fee
>>738031440you say this as Diablo 3 literally has you going to heaven and killing angels
>>738033843>uhm ackshually there is no such thing as a slipper slope that's a fallacy>uhm ackshually it's only a few bucks you spend more on coffee!>uhm ackshually it's not gamling it's surprise mechanics>uhm ackshually it's the industry standard grandpa!>just let people enjoy things!!!!!!
>>738033453Honestly, I am surprised it took them this long. Seems like a no-brainer.>>738033843Because number must go up. If nobody bought this shit then we wouldn't see it. Unfortunately the world is full of retards with more dollars than sense. >>738033846Yes. You don't have to buy it though
>full cinematic cutscene making Liliith look like she's doing an heroic sacrificeDo i just have to forget that the entire base game happened to give a shit?
>>738033968As a filthy unc I always expected to grow out of some things but it seems more like gaming has grown out of me. I made the mistake of buying diablo 3 but that was the last time they got money from me
>>738033968>uhm ackshually if you show AAA companies that you can fund a free to play live service game completely with microtransactions they are obviously going to do the same shit with a box priceyou are part of the problem nigger but you're too much a faggot to admit it
>>737968526Diablo 4 is better than PoE 1 & 2
>>738034090i've never bought a microtransaction in my entire life faggot
>>738034098I like D4 and that is simply not true
>>738033453i don't think i ever saw someone with the cash shop drip roaming around or in parties, the worst i saw was deluxe edition armor and wings, it's not CoD where every lobby is a clown showcase.
>>738034246I like PoE 1 (PoE 2 sucks cocks) and it is true now. They shouldn't have dustbinned their money maker for a shittier version of it.
>>738034363Really? I see them all the time. Particularly the Doom one which is like $100
>>738034612>>738034363Speak of the devil.
>>738034185fuck off lying nigger
how long is the lord of hatred campaign?
>>737974883This shit is really fun. I 0 button pressed myself to Torment 6 so far.I don't think BMB works with Unholy Frenzy but shit dies too fast for me to tell.
>>738035042Missing one piece.
>>737994235give the suicide skeles a try. They a forced to leap every 0.5 sec and then AoE pop. Very agressive. Get NaguCeh too they freeze everything.>>738035239Nice, I'm running blind no idea what uniques are out there.
>>738033964and? they're on the same power scale as demons. You have malthael deciding that he knows better and assaults sanctuary with his army, because in his opinion he's way better in dealing with soulstones on top of humanity being a nuisancethey're not alleis, just better of the two options. Both hell and heavens interfere in ways they seem fit. They knew tyrael secret work with horadrims. They didn't intervene because hell was doing the same shit with triune. It was literal cold war with sanctuary used as a grey zoneagain, reminder that tyrael didn't vote to nuek sanctuary only and only because of uldyssian sacrifice. Tyrael was such a horryfying option that edyrems and rathma were considering that Imperius of all archangels should be easier to convicne than tyrael, who simpyl didn't even consider humanity a sentient being worth of thinkign about twice before nuking
>>738028517don't tell me what to do
>>738035239is this xpac only ring? im farming lesser bosses blind sicne none did a loottable for necro
did they fix female druid? is diablo in the game?
>>738035042>unholy frenzy locked behind xpacLMAOOO
Poe won
>>738036203CoC loop?can you finally do loops again in poe?
>>738035621I don't think so. It replaces Mendeln. It's rare though, this is the only one I have found, which is why it's not 850 or 900 ilvl
>>738036252No, it's just a very fast trigger for cast on elemental ailment
>>738036203Is it any good co-op? I heard it kinda sucks co-op.
Start a general already
