How would you fix this card?
is that a 9sols reference?
delete intangible and rework the card entirely it's a dumbass mechanic that can never be balanced
>>737972193Remove all exhaust from the character
that sword went in, ggs
>>737972193I got that garbage from starting scroll and instantly conceded. Clad and Binder have so many garbage early rares.
>>737972193>Exhaust up to 5 cards.>For every 5 cards exhausted in this method, gain 1 Slippery/Buffer.If you kept that at 2 Energy, would it be broken?
I don't like exhaust in general, not since they changed doorman. Early on you don't have enough card draw to ever get the intangible. Late in the run you either intentionally bloat your deck with defense for door, or shave it down to a few cards that can go infinite during the two phases that you're able to.There just isn't a use case for it anymore. You're either killing your longevity by playing this or exhausting something you need to save to win the fight.
Add draw to it? I don't know. The concept of the card isn't very good to begin with. Better to change it completely.
Eidolon is good and has its purpose in heavy soul decksThe issue is dirge got nerfed so heavy soul decks arent as good anymore.
>>737972193>Put 3 Ethereal cards from your Exhaust pile into your Hand.>They are free this turn.
>>7379732641 Dirge is fine to start the loop. You just need a soul payoff power.
>>737972193It's okay as isPretty niche, but exhaust your hand is a strong effect on a card that doesn't exhaust itself.
when is patch?
>>737973658https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2868840/view/535507353628312243
this boss is too hard for me
>>737973423one dirge really isnt enough to get you started because maybe you draw a full hand with eidolon and then exhaust it if you play all your souls, but then you cant do it again.
https://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/251
>>737972193it should exhaust itself and cost 0, then it would be pretty good but probably still nicheif you have 10 cards in hand and 2 energy you usually have better things to be doing even if you could play this, and burning your deck down to a small combo is much worse than it used to be with most infinites nerfed or removed and doormaker existing
the intangible bit is a trap (or occasional upside) just use it as deck thinner >but it costs 2 energy! on necrobinder, the character that gets free energy on a fucking platter
i miss OG dirge like you wouldn't believe
>>737972619Rares are pretty bad neow bonuses. There's too many potential bricks.
>>737975815burning your deck down to a small combo is a good way to beat the doorman thoughbeit
>>737974756Getting this nigger in the 3rd battle of act 2 feels like such a kick in the dick
>>737975823This, it's basically giga-Second Wind
>>737975202That's pretty cool, seems pretty RNG dependent though.
>>737976001not reallyit doesn't work on phase 1, you run out of cards and loseit doesn't work on phase 2, you can't draw cards so you can't loop your deckphase 3 you can go infinite but only if you have either a full 0 cost loop or make twice as much energy as you normally need
>>737976071giga second wind that costs double gives you no block and has no class synergy so it can burn strikes
>>737975959game's so easy as things stand you're allowed to carry an early brick imo
>>737976369i would rather carry 150 gold or a potion or a remove or...
>4 combats in a row the game offers me the same 3 cards>Sculpting strike, dance macabre, and severanceI uh... died obviously but likeDid the game bug out or what?
choosing 1 of 3 rares for an injury >>>>> one random rare
>>737976781Return to the bottom
>All of my blocks are 2 energy>All of my attacks are 2 energyI have made a mistake.
Just got my ass handed to me by a soul nexus.It alternated between attacking for 21 and 43 with weakness on.No way I can block all that when it is also applying weak and vuln while attacking!Also I think Mr. Struggles ate my lethality buffs. Love relics that are actually just curses you can't remove.
>>737976884Snecko eye it upReal or budget version
>>737976881not yet
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243554855536/76561197997192985which enemy is the most fuckable and why is it those clampy automation things
>>737976951You choose the relics you take
>>737978087not if you're broke and have to take the random one
>>7379779891 slot left.
Why is one of my hangs unupgraded? I copied the second with dolly's mirror.
>>737978672that's a feedback moment.
>>737972193i thought that card art was a musky paw lol. im trans btw
>>737978672did you get the mirror event?
>>737978672is bro allergic to elites?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243556142826/76561197997192985rehostan
>>737978792nope, dolly's mirror relic in the shop.
>>737978860Who needs elites when double hang + a whole deck about drawing and replaying them. Only doormaker was mildly scary cause I had to play around the exhaust phase.
xecnar tierlist for defect from yesterday
>>737979157source
>>737979317Japanese import stream, he pulled it up from the sts content creator discord
Anyone else low kirk feel like they have to change girya? It’s a shit relic from sts1 why isn’t it in the trash heap?Anyone who plays A10 knows it’s basically useless
>>737979404just gotta hope for tent
Alright I've said this before but this might be the best relic lineup I've ever gotten. Also anyone that says heavenly drill is mediocre can suck me.
your statistically mandated free win sir.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243556287569/76561198230044444hooossting
>>737979495Me getting discounted Assassinate in a 4th floor shop
I can host in a few minutes. Anyone wanna help me climb multiplayer ascensions? Only A2 in MP now
>>737979157I always thought consuming shadow was good
Hostansteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243557434659/76561199214357271
>>737979157voltaic nerf was so fucking dumb
>>737979157Would love to hear the reasoning behind his rating.
>>737972976A decent compromise, but still only the kind of card I'd use if I got early act 1.I would change it to:>Exhaust any number of cards>For every 2 cards exhausted, Summon 5(8) and gain 5(8) blockMight be boring, but functions with Necro's gimmicks.
>>7379799702/4 come join
>>7379799702/4
>>737979157This guy definitely knows what he's talking about more than other ecelebs. I keep seeing them rank Consuming Shadow and Shatter low, obviously they don't know how to play with Glass orbs at all. Also ofc Coolant can't be anywhere but S tier it's a Block Power ffs it's not overrated whatsoever.
>>737979157Compact in S, seemingly as the second best card, is crazy when it's like the most situational card of all time
is everybody getting a fair amount of what are seemingly logic crashes or is it just a linux thing
>>737980753I'm also on Linux and yes
>>737980753Haven't crashed once in 100 hours on gnu+linux.
>>737980958i was wondering if it was related to my steamapps-on-exfat bullshit that i'm about to move off of but >>737980795 makes me think that it's something elseit's usually when i'm mashing through a combat while clicking potions and multiple different parts of the game are trying to grab the screen at oncelike gambling chip popping up while i'm trying to use a potion first thing, for instance
Can't stop playing this even though I keep getting fucking obliterated
no patch today or what
gg's we had some girthy swords floating around
>>737972193Choose a card in your Hand. It gains Ethereal and Replay this combat.
>Transformed/Sold all my Defends because I had Strike Dummy.>Had no block cards for like 3 fights.That could easily have gone to shit lmao. GG.
>>737980753No almost no crashes on my Deck, but the UI is bugged when I try to relog to a rehosted game.I think I had 1(one) crash since I've started playing, but I think it was the Steam client crashing/bugging out that caused it.>i was wondering if it was related to my steamapps-on-exfat bullshitMaybe... Try moving the game to another disk with a different filesystem.>>737981197ggI was the regent that died during the run.I managed by sheer luck to make my build work after that, instakilling those elites with Stardust!
>>737981274I had the event where you remove 5 cards and get them upgraded one by one. I tossed all 3 or 4 of my block important cards.
Act 4 fucking when. Every time something gets rolling its already over.
>>737981468They're working on alternate act 2 and making more ancients. Let them cook.
No good relics, no remove card events, no enchantmentsWhat a lame run
>>737981526I hope we get an alternative to Neow. Maybe one who shows up only if you won the previous run.
>ghost seed>strikes and defends gain etherealdoes getting rid of this relic remove the ethereal, or is the enchant permanent, similar to how some relics will upgrade cards?
release the patch, NOW
>>737981835gotta say my deck felt pretty cash money but the payoff was too slow for that fightsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243560671227/76561198230044444hunting for revenge
>>737981863Not sure. I always thought by taking those kinds of relics, it activates the enchant. So once it's done the relic stops working. I could be wrong on this.
>>737972976>slipperyDidn't even consider giving that buff to the player. It would be a great idea to slap it on for serpent form. >thematically congruent>makes the card actually viable to get into play >doesn't step on Wraith Form's toes>slippery isn't as strong as buffer or intangible, so it wouldn't do too much defensively to dilute the card's identityI think I'm actually going to write a feedback suggestion for once.
>>7379819023/4 A10(or below)Get in here slayer sisters
>>7379819023/4
>>737981863Do your cards have an icon on them when you look through your deck? If not then ghost seed isn't permanent.
>>737972193Redpill me on mass exhaust cards. How do I use them when I deleted almost all strikes and defends already, have no curses and isn't against status heavy opponent. It feels like every card in the is more playable at the moment than just thinning the deck even if my deck is big ass pile of whatever I picked on the way
*yawn* no patch this week. Maybe next week if we feel like it -megacrit.
I didn't even get to play my Supermassive.Also I misclicked and exhausted some useful power instead of Bombardment lol.One more?steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243557434659/76561199214357271
Calamity is very funny with creation Regent.
>>737982175>Explain to me cards when I specifically always am in the scenario where they aren't useful.Imagine if you will that you are in a run where you haven't deleted all strikes and defends, possibly have picked up a curse or two or hell even a Quest and might face off against a status heavy opponent.Then tell me how you'd feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning.
>>737982461>Game no longer existsRefresh your steam profile before copying the link
>>737982473Yeah, I had an unlucky no damage Act 1 once until I rolled Calamity from Spectrum shift and then I suddenly had both damage and block thanks to it and PIllars. Very fun card
>>737979970>be a forge slut>with 3 arsenal gigachads>got 2 sealed thrones>0 ways to use it>transform one of it into minion attack in the boss fightThat was the most dogshit throne deck I've ever had. GG
>>737982574I felt normal, I didn't eat breakfast today.
>>737982585steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243561482954/76561199214357271
>>737972193Exhaust your hand, for every 4 cards exhausted this way, gain 1 copy of Apparition
>>737982635room for one more
>>737979495ez pz
>>737982175There is no non-meme situation where you have a 20 card pile and want each card equally for the rest of the fight
>>737982175Having a deck built on exhaust cards means you never actually have to remove cards from your deck and you can just keep making your deck bigger. You'll exhaust the shit you won't use anyways, especially with status cards.
>>737980645It's alphabetical, you dolt.
>>737979157>frost focus good zero cost midsaved you some reading
regent is just like the watcher in that they're both not fun to play at all and basically just boring shit trash ass
>Opening nightmare with suppress and paper krane against doornigger
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243562504891/76561199214357271rehost for Necros and Silent
>>737982175Do you want single target or aoe in this fight?
>>737982993>anon butthurt because he drew his star cards in the wrong order imagine me posting a smug mesugaki Regent at you
>>737982175most fights dont last longer than 1 redraw
>>737982993Regent board tho
regent is like funny stick ironclad except you can click him at character select
>>737982993regent at least has the potential to be rebalanced unlike double damage localisation woman
>>737983062fuck off pedo weeb this game will never belong to you
regent will be fine once act 4 exists
>>737983225what about act 5 tho?
>>737982175Play Ironclad in 1 and pick Fiend Fire, Corruption and Second Wind whenever they show up(not all at once) and you will eventually figure out that exhausting cards is pretty handy
>>737972193Megacrit made a message on Twitter an hour ago.>Update: in case you’re waiting for a beta patch today, you can expect one to come next week!>We’ve mentioned in the past our patching schedule may be irregular, and we’ve now decided to try shifting to a bi-weekly cadence for beta patches. In the meantime, ty for your feedback!
>>737984425Update: Updates will now be half speed.
That was my first exhaust Ironclad deck. That shit slapsGG, the beacon of hope carried my block
>>737972193>Powerful>every 9 cards you exhausted, gain 1 intangible Fixed. Can be very broken in the right deck. Not the best but can be used.
>>737984425i'm feeling really chinese right now
>>737984425lol. lmao
>Hard hallway>All attack cards then all defend cards>Hard hallway>All attack cards then all defend cards>Only elite on the path>All attack cards first turn lethal[Kill all]
>>737976951mr struggles damage isn't an attack
>>737984505ggexhaust really is fun once it gets goingthat block was sponsored by throne
>>737981857>shows up only if you won the previous run.That's a really good idea. One of those ideas that feels painfully obvious, in the best way.
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What even killed the Queen?GGI was useless in this team comp
>>737985373still got room 2/4
hand trick being 1 turn just makes it totally useless.at best you are putting retain on it to hopefully get things to line up and at worst you just have a 7 block card that only makes your turn slower.
gg's sad we never got the hang combo off, but I did summon 100 skeleton hands
>>737985534It's all good. If I'm being honest I only took Tag Team because I had Danse and wanted something to use it on, lol.
>>737981857neow herself used to work this way and it was shityou'd have to make the new ancient have the exact same power level to not feel bad which is impossible
A4 tomorrow. Fun games today, I wish I had started climbing earlier. I didn't realize MP and SP ascension progress was separated until very recently
>>737985373Dang, missed my chance. Hosting a new one:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243567593829/76561197985009576
nothing feels better than squeaking out a win with a shitty ass deck that had absolutely no right to get that far
>>737986301did you savescum?
>>7379861122/4Giving it 5 more minutes.
>>737986584no beta no join
>>737986795Oh shit there's a beta?
>>737986584Was a nice try. I bottom decked my Charge! twice and top decked all four of the wounds in my draw pile that last turn.
>>737985495If we're talking skills to put shrymp Imbue on for Silent...>Survivor>Backflip>Piercing Wail>Prepared>Acrobatics>Blur>Leg Sweep>Reflex>Tactician>Up My Sleeve>Adrenaline>Blade of Ink>Bullet Time>Burst>Malaise>Nightmare
>>737987374Oof. Yeah, GG. Realized too late that what I should've been doing is retaining wounds to get them out of the way.
>>737987345Yeah, you opt into it through your steam library.
>>737973264Capture Soul x2 is good enough if you can get itDirge is still alright if you already got Borrowed Time
>>737987498Alright, trying this again, beta branch:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243570107793/76561197985009576
ggironchad carried HARD
>>737987696yeah honestly dont think we could've done it without ironclad
>decide to try Hoarder mode>pick Regent>Hidden Gem>Void Form>Decisions, Decisions>Royal Gamble>Alignment>BombardmentI never realized how insane Replay 3 Bombardment was.
>>737987696>4 clad niggas in a row>it just werks
>only drew damage cards on Lizard's intangible turnsI hate test subject
>>737987615GG.Haet 'pede.
>>737987615rough game. was confused as to why we were making aggressive plays when we weren't doing so hot (or at least i, silent, wasnt).good job to necrobinder to carry on act 1 elite
anons need to play slower, lol. I can't apply vuln quick enough because queueing attacks before the discard shuffle animation can finish.
hostan!steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243572903446/76561199486452220
>>7379892713/4, will start when full or in 5 min
>no patchAaaaaaaa, chinks we’re completely right
>back from a long vacation ready to play some st2s, unaware of any changes>oh boy I got voltaic earl-what the FUCK did they do to my favorite card
>>737979157>white noise bottom tierFuck you
Dammit I should've realized how cursed Souls were against Doormaker/Test Subject.
>>737991110in case you hadn't already noticed from the regent "guide" x*cnar is a massive midwit
>>737989271GGs, good try. Thanks for the plasmas necro.Wasn't bothering to defend because I didn't want to bloat C87's strength and bring you two down with me since we couldn't kill it fast.Unfortunately defends/skills were all that I was drawing Early Dingy Rug was ok, wish I got more funny meme cards (was aiming for Hidden Gem)
>>737989271GGs, was a good run. Test Subject phase 1 has way too much health.
>>737991110He hates fun and plays “optimally”
I still don't know if snakebite is a meme or not and when I lose I think it's snakebite's fault and when I win I think it's because I had snakebite.
>>737991924it's a desperation pick. not particularly good.
>>737979157Did they rollback hotfix in 104 or is this just referring to hotfix?
>>737991924don't get lost in the sauceit's a good damage common
>>737979157>Claw
>>737992121Same, claw at bottom? I'm still taking it and I'll get 10 A10 win streak doing it.
lobby?
>>737992121>>737992142>All For One in B tierthis tier list was not very plus ultra of him
>>737991924it's a B- damage commonit's good at what it does, which is give you guaranteed long term damage with a minimal deckspace costIt's not amazing, but in a lot of runs you should be pretty happy to take it, it can often replace 2 or 3 other cards you would have to take to solve certain matchups, I would generally way rather have 1 snakebite than 2 deadly poison and a poisoned stab
>>737991924Retain is what makes it good. Gives you sly synergies, but on its own its not great
>>737992225ill make one once I get my cawfee
>>737991924the trick to understanding snakebyte is understanding the question>which is stronger, a card that improves a deck's odds of winning from 90% to 95%, or a card that improves it from 40% to 60%
>>737976060Wait what, you can fight him somewhere other than the final boss of act 3?
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I fucking love Ironclad Exhaust decksJust keep GAMBLING and EXHAUSTING
>>737992632This anon stokes
>>737992458this is one of the most insightful posts I've ever read here
>>737992632I don't understand gambling and exhausting decks. It was fun in StS1, but I just can't in StS2.
>>737992720Yeah if I have a chance to get Stokes I go out of my way for it. Add a few Pact's End, even better with a relic that gives you ethereal duplicate of your first attack, some draw engine (Offering or first damage -> draw cards relics) and you can just kinda cycle through free damage cards over and over again.
>>737991924It's good as an Act 1 bailout (usually some shit like Waterfall Giant or Laguvalin). If you're still relying on it during Act 2, then things are probably going wrong. But it just being strong Act 1 is already valuable since it's the hardest act.
>>737992789It just "feels" good you know? Throw cards into exhaust pile and have them help you scale. Since you get to replace with pretty good cards you can really go far with it with decent rolls.Well I'm only playing on A5 so obviously my opinion isn't worth much here but I pretty much raped my way through the top with this so I still think this was a good deck. Could've been luck on my relic rolls though, the ethereal attack duplicate went far. And I got to transform Bash into Break which is kinda crazy luck.
I did it, Reddit!
literally how are you supposed to use precise cut
>>737991924It fucking retains, that's pretty good. Keep in mind that expensive but high effect cards can be good since you can just pick a few of them in act 1 rather than taking like two deadly poisons in your deck that don't retain and are horrible.
Retained cards are kept on top of the 5 cards you draw from your next turn, right?
>>737993910Yeah, if you have Well-Laid Plans, you can even get up to 4 easily meaning you have a whole hand of 9 every turn.
>>737993910yes, if you have 5 retained cards you'll keep them and draw 5 new cards. If you have more than 5 cards retained you'll draw up to 10 cards and then stop.
This game just feels like this
It's kind of obvious in hindsight but Stardust is such an insane card.With Vigor and stars you can scale it in two different ways and both Vigor and Stars have cards that escalate the damage while also providing Defense.
>>737994009>controller playerkino, also it's only good if you have scaling which isn't consistent
I'm an idiot I could've had swift 3 Anger
>>737994003what's the StS equivalent of this moment?
>>737994081Wouldn't it work only on the first use?
>>737994114it shuffles one with a fresh swift 3 and itself with the swift gone
>>737994094Exhausting my Break+
>>737976803I just reset if my rng sucks. It's free since you can always pick the rewad as opposed to last game
>>737994094>draw all your great cards>no way out>primal force them all
aaar gg anyway
40 floors and not one scaling card in any category. Actual hell
>>737992620gg we shat ourselves
Clad looks like an angry owl
>>737994238>he doesn't know you can win without scaling
I let this happen
GGs.First time duplicating my deck. Shouldn't have experimented, my bad. Not my smartest decision when my drawing was shit and I was the only guy with Break.
>>737994318kek, me too. I didn't even know there could be more than 4.
shrymp cascade on test subject is an oof
>>737994268Not in multiplayer you won't. Other ironchads were doing all the damage. Was still a good game though
>>737994268in multiplayer you're either scaling chad or support bitch
>>737980753Getting random crashes on my deck but I'm not even doing anything weird, just playing shit like strikes or whatever.
>>737992121I feel like most runs the game gives me 1 claw then stops. The card pool is so bloated you can go entire run without seeing one.Granted, you can build a claw deck with a single claw in this game, but it's not that fun.
redemption arcsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243583422240/76561198046595191
>>7379945193/4
>>737994634nice feet
He's right, you know. You're going to need to discard those bricks.
>>737994634why are you faggots incapable of thinking about little anime girls for more than three seconds
Does shop mean easy hallway can still be the third fight you get into?
>>737991924snakebite is good, it just falls off and it's useful even in non-poison decks. I think it just gets shit on because the other silent cards are pretty good but people forget snakebite is a common and acts as a good damage solution early on, especially in higher ascensions where getting big dick cards is harder
>>737993313>Over 80 minutes runDamn, did you go AFK or something?>See itOh, that's why
>>737994726Thank you!
>>737984505Playing an Exhaust deck on Ironclad is a right of passage. Like passing your high school swimming exam at 6am in order to graduate.
>>737995246Is this a balance oversight or is it stupid hard to setup?
>>737995246I thought infinites were lost.
>>737981857>>737985039Canonically Neow is the only reason you can still climb after your first attempt.Wouldn't make sense to have a different person down there.
>>737995295>>737995337It was simply that potion that makes a card free for a combat. Used it on Particle Wall and Doorfag had to face the consequences.
>>737995295Touch of Insanity on particle wall makes it free. there's a lot of infinite you can do with that potion.
>>737981857Or just give Neow even more blessings, especially ones that make strikes & defends less of a brick
ggwhat was that last attack ironclad did for 1000 damage?
ggStoke is the most fun card in the game.
>>737996212Corrupted Gang up with cruelty+
>>737996256>corrupted cruelty+ debilitate vuln gang up
>>737996667only missing flanking for obscene damage
How to activate console commands? I want to test out card interaction, also it won’t fuck up my profile or I need to make new one for years?
>no new patch, game is already maintenance modeokay they actually deserve all the negative review bombing
He had no chance.
>PEDOgent
>>737997840So what happened after you used all 3 stars and only drew spears?
>CUNNYgod
>no new patchWhat would (You) have patched today? Hardmode: No straight up deleting things/reworking them out of existence like with Doormaker's iterations
>>737998072>what if your deck maybe doesn't do something after dealing 650 dmg
>>737998213>213 damage>3 lives with progressively more health>3rd spear wouldn't kill 3rd lifeYou lost didn't you?
>>737997840>Had a deck with Crescent Spear>Was offered the clone relic>Skipped it>Lost the runI'm a fool.
>>737998291NTA but doesn't it just barely pass the threshold>Phase 2 is 212 HP>Phase 3 is 313 HP but with the Vuln Pot it crosses with 320 damage
>>737998294why didn't you just say you picked crescent spear so we could all laugh at someone picking that f tier card
>>737998291nta but they'll see 25-30 cards minimum before dying, chances are they'll see several non crescent spear cards
>>737998430He has 84 cards, so at least 64 spears. It's likely he only saw spears.>>737998376You might be right. Looks like he lucked into a win with the pot
>>737998376Imagine if 2nd form had 214 hp
STAND BACK, NAYSAYERS! No pot necessary...Hidden Cache>>737998294Always opt for fun. We can all make it with 1 Spear and a little bit of luck.
>>737998594You really don't know how odds work if you think 64/84 means he'll only see spears
>>737998594(64 choose 15)/(84 choose 15) ~ 0.01There is a 1% chance he only sees spears in the first 3 turns
>>737998840You have to count folly, block and ascenders bane to spear count because they don’t advance stars/damage
>>737998829He didn't say he'll only see spears. He said it's likely he'll only see spears.
>>737998937it was already an oversimplification since seeing a single non-spear doesn't really matter much if it's a strike or defend, the point was just the probability of only seeing spears / not seeing many non-spear cards is more unlikely than common sense suggests.The important stat is how many star generating cards he has. The more he has the exponentially better the deck is since he has to bottom deck ALL of them to lose
>>737998186>remove mecha knight or make him elite>add actual mechanics to the eye>remove the trannyism of 15 dmg perk turn on coral>remove zap from the game>make hunter killer an elite>remove/rework nightmare>make the statue less transsexual, a card check boss that early in the Game is genuinely retarded
>>737999006Yeah, that's not likely at all. In fact the odds that he would find a good card if he only had 5 in 15 draws is still about 60%
>>737999148Mrcha knight is already elite
>>73799884069 cards that cost stars for 213 damage.Of the 15 remaining cards, at least half are probably strikes/blocks. The deck probably has four star generators at most. Likely only 2 or 3.Without the vuln pot, he would have lost.
>>737999310With 4 star generating cards, if he draws them before turn 4(when it comes out of invulnerable) in an 84 card deck is 67%. Pretty likely.
I love being bad at the game.And I removed a strike, too.
>>737999307Right yesh, well nerf him to be on par with the other forgettable relic vending machines in act3, removing that stupid artifact would go far
>>737999423I swear they buffed this annoying fucker because I don't remember him hitting this hard. I took over 30 damage on the first fight. What the fuck I can't be this bad.
>>737999310Brother, the webm was already posted. >>737998779>>737999384is right. One in five cards was a non-spear every single draw.
>>737999384And the chance with 2 generators? The far likelier number he had?
>>737999423>counting cards is too hard for him
>>737999451don't pull a hammy moving that goalpost chief
>>737999491Goalpost, my original post said he more likely had 2 or 3. You've already tried to move the goalpost back.
>>737999423ain't no way losing 7 health mattersjust like losing 1 or 2 health to do a strike doesn't matter
>>737999541Anon you lose when your hp reaches 0.
>>737999538the only way 2 or 3 is the most likely is if the pilot doesn't realize it's the only thing that matters and doesn't pick every one they see
>>737999586that's wrong though, you lose when you see the death animationif you're quick enough you can reload at zero
>>737999451For him to have picked up only one star generator before the act 3 boss is incredibly unlikely. The odds of that happening are even lower than what you're trying to claim a non spear draw is. But if that happened to be the case it would still be a 42% chance of drawing either of them.
>>737998186Give ironclad all the good cards from 1 back again
>>737998186Demon form gives 3/6 strength on exhaust
>>737999772To clarify, strength gain happens when you exhaust it and not just getting strength on any exhaust
>>737999438Dude the knight only attacks every other turn. He's the easiest act 3 elite
>>737999643He was prioritizing camps over shops and events in acts 2 and 3. If he even went to a shop, he probably bought star spenders over removes and generators.He has his entire starting deck minus an act 1 remove and only 2 generators.
>>737999840>turn 1 30>turn 2 nothing >turn 3 nothing>turn 4 45He hits less than hard hallway fights
Necrobinder is my only A10 left and I still don't like her. Help me with my assumptions.>Soulslop with Haunt is my default path to victory>Big number etheral cards until Pull from Below is usually solid filler>Doom does worse than you'd like nearly every time>Summon doesn't have enough good cards to be a full setup (Reanimate ok, Devour Life bad)>Osty attacks exist
I am coming back with practical test results for something we instinctively knew all along. Toric toughness is shit.2 energy for 5 block now is not enough in act 1, and it's not worth carrying a curse that might do something 30 floors later.
>>737987374classic Charge!! moment
>>737972193idk just have a hand full of token cards and not actual cards? then get an essentially free intangible? seems pretty good to me
>>738000067Soul is literally the worst build on necro now
>You cannot change the past with anger.
>>738000160Why didn't you tell me sooner, bro? I get that Dirge got fucked. What are people winning with?
>>738000074If you're wondering what the practical tests looked like, I took it and then promptly died.
>>738000067Stop being archetypebrained. On necro you can pick and mic most stuff and make it work
>>737987374>>738000108we just can't stop winning can we Begone! bros?
>>738000067You take cards that say block on them. That's it.I don't think the necro has a bad block card.
>>738000206like 7 defys and a sleight of flesh
>>738000297Negative pulse is ass unless you have the 3 good doom cards already, and even then it doesn't block enough.
>>738000354>sleight of fleshOh yeah. I haven't seen this in like 5 runs and forgot it's really good.
Anyone get serious existential dread after playing this game?
>>738000292We simply can't, Begone! is too good
>>738000381Tales from a0
>>738000506Yeah. I play so much that I feel like I don't know what the fuck I'm doing anymore. It's like counting is impossible and safe picks aren't safe.
>>738000609pure projectionnegative pulse is unfiltered dog water
>>738000709>Block 6 deal 11 aoe is badKeep crying about act 1 elites champ
>>738000381Negative pulse is Iron wave but good
>>738000746>assuming upgraded>+1 block btwLMAO'ing at your life
>>738000824Why are you not upgrading a +4 aoe damage +1 block? Why are you complaining your card dealing 44 damages to phrogs and eels also blocks for 6? How are you so bad and retarded while also being so smug?
>>738000746>deal 11 aoeDoom is so deceptive as a concept. It's really not that cut and dry.
>>738000932Doom is the least deceptive conceptApply X doom is virtually identical to "deal X damage next turn"
>dude doom block is good, just let it hit you for 30 damage through your starter tier block before it dies
can't cure stupid
>>738000746>what is Bygone Effigy>what is Byrdonis>what is Terror Eel
>>738000932It really is. It's damage going through block and intangibility but killing a turn later in exchange for higher numbers
>>738001102>11 damage for 1 to Byrd or eel is bad
>>738001102>Nooooooo my common card only solves 3 elites fight it should autowin the entire act which means it's badMental retardation
>>737994814Get the fuck off 4chan and find another fucking community instead of turning every fucking website into a worthless fucking mess of unmatched cultures you stupid faggot if you get upset at the sight of an anime girl mod on 4chan then you should probably be on a fucking normie social media instead. Go fucking scroll tiktok you whiny cancerous tumor
How do I play the Silent without getting bored of her incredibly busted in every way kit?
Why do strikes do 1 more damage than defends? Is 6 damage worth more than 5 block?
>>738001135>let Byrdonis slap you for 30 one extra time>doesn't count towards stunning eelit actively gets you killed if you play it in those fights
My friends want me to get this game but I don't like turn based games, I don't like card games, and I don't like roguelikes
>>738000381It's a fucking common card that does AoE while also blocking, in no world is that bad when Act 1 has so many multi-enemy fights
>>738001218You want to time the eel's stun since it's not that hard to block phase 1 and having some doom stacked helps you burst before the phase 2 first attack
>>738001218>doesn't count towards stunning eelbut that's good? You want to burst him in two turns after stun, so 11 upfront damage that you can "deal" without stunning him makes it easier
So Negative Pulse is the Snakebite of Necrobinder
>>738001242don't forget that there are a lot of multi-enemy fights in act 2 too, such as cockroaches and doom goes around their damage cap
>>738001191try playing shivs
>>738001317Apply 1.6X doom is worse than deal X damageApply X poison is better than deal 1.6X damage
>>738001317Not at all, snakebite is mainly a boss solver while pulse is a good all rounder
There should be way more custom card crafting in this game, enchanting once every run for a generic +2 damage is pathetic
>>738001317No, it's worse noxious fumes
>>738001279If you are using doom you need to burst him in 1 turn after stun not 2It's the same except you stun him later and have less control over when it happens
>>738001420>>738001191No, try playing a grand finale deck.
>itt A0 shitters who don't know enemy sequencing and think doom proc = one extra turn of enemy attacks
Hmm, i wonder what i'll find in the 4th question mark room...
Can someone help me with the math here? Does the test subject die if I exhaust my whole hand?
>>738002364it would be extremely exhausting
>>737972193>exhaust your handwell, if you insist...
host?
>>738002364>55 strengthhow, you have no demon form or rupture
>>737972193give it Retaincould be good as an emergency defense
>>738002794molten fist and dominate = gorillion of strength
>>738002794I hacked the game and stacked my Girya 55 times.
My man
>>738003198Would gyra be a decent relic if you could use it unlimited times?
>Watcher can deal double damage at the cost of taking double damage>Silent can deal double damage when the enemy is dealing 25% less damageWhat
>>738003226>this spaceboi's so kingly...
>>738003373>not-skeleton arms>not-skeleton legsWTF
>>738003284I think it's already pretty decent. I'm happy to see it about 75% of the time.
>>738003285it's balanced by the fact that silent doesn't deal damage
I will gladly take an extra 10 damage every fight just to see the enemies sink into the doom portal
>>738003285>when the enemy is dealing 25% less damageor 40% because paper crane, very balanced character, devs understand what they are doing and you should stop questioning it
>>737972193I wouldn't fix it. I would listen to what it had to say. And that's what no one did.
>>738003597>Flechettes>PinpointShe usually deals dishonest damage tbf but you have decent damage options, anon.
>>738003438necro's arms and legs actually look like this
>>738003631>doom a Tunnelling Bug during his block turn>watch him burrow directly into HellIt's got to be the best Doom death animation right?
>>738003631you're not supposed to take damage while playing doom...
>>738003889I like the animation this guy makes when doomedIt looks like he ate a lemon then fell into the shadow realm
>>738003226I never did a Kingly deck. How did it go? What's the rest of your deck?
>>738001317I didn't think so. It's good but I don't think it's quite as good as snake bite
>>738004376Kingly Punch is an Act 1 hero
>>738004434*Kick
C'mon lads lets DOOM some foolssteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243583422240/76561198046595191
>>737979157>hailstorm at SU fuckin wot Ice lance is rather high too, it's A at best. Definitely agree with white noise though, finally there's a streamer that doesn't suck off the card. It's completely useless outside a dedicated power spam build. Half the shit it can give you will have zero benefit depending on your build, people just go gaga over the 1/20 chance of getting a zero cost echo form and forget the rest of the possibilities.
i had no right to win this run even with save scumming but if RNG isnt going to give me a FNP then i will abuse it six ways from sunday
>>738004715>royally approved Stokebased>savescummingaaaand it's gone
>>738004715>save scummingbased
said no one ever
>>738004376Kingly is pretty fun, less complicated than other regent decks like stars. I had a kick/punch + glimmer/cosmic indifference/thinking ahead for deck manipulation. And void form + ice cream was the cherry on top.
I need them to add an animation that plays at the begging of every turn with a blinking "You have pael's eyes" message that only goes away after you click okay
>>738004503no one interested? :/
>>738005127I dislike necro
basic bitch lobby then I supposesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243608488347/76561198046595191
>>738005127working now ):>>738005097cool deck
>>7380054042/4
Black Hole yay/nay?
>>738005643It depends
Is it optimal? No. But it looks like fun.
Why is she such queen
>>738005643I like it, but I prefer card gen Regent. If you already have good star engine, it helps in some AoE fights in A1.
>>738005814I didn't notice they're actually bringing her relics in the art
>>738005784My own fault really
rare starter card for an injury, which one
>>738007286Undeath
>>738007372Undeath turns you draw pile into a heap of trash tho
>>738007372never took undeath, what's the point, just alot of free block?
>>738007425just give it retain or ethereal w/ pagestorm or swift 3
>>738007286just to add, I never really fucked with ethereal builds, and misery only makes sense for multiple enemie fights. these seem like the shittiest necro rare cards
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243614068337/76561198091556171Hosting.
>>7380072860 mana deal 7 is pretty fine for Act 1, even without debuffs
>>738005404GG
>>738005404>>738005507gg ironchad legion>Bully doing 600 damage each
ggthe way our team looked made me laugh
>>738007807>pretty fine for Act 1great rare
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>>738007807>0 mana deal 7 is pretty fine for Act 1, even without debuffsI think you have to take damage cards early regardless, anytime I try to setup economy first it fails hard
>>738007724>>738007889are you voice chatting or just playing the game? I'm too shy for voice chat and have an accent
>>738005404>Bad luck dealing more team damage than bosses
>>7380079422/4
>>738007991we're just spamming bird emotes and thumbs up
>>738007991It's no vc.
>>738007889>6 jugglingclown build
>>738001183Why did you reply to the wrong anon? You need to say that to the brainrotted "mesugaki" spammer. Such a blatant newfag term.
>>738007942Still 2/4
>>737992586anon must have meant 2nd battle of act 3
>>738005784It IS optimal
>>738007889it's such a retarded thing that multiple beacons don't stack block application
>>738008442it's already too fucking good as it is
>>738008485delete it and give Tank it's effect
>>738008546Tank really is a fucking joke isn't it
>>738007932Yeah they're all shit. You might as well pick the one that does something. They should make a whole game about managing unideal card choices to beat bosses, we can call it "Slay the Spire".
>>737972193>play 3 player daily>specialist gives me this card>friends full combo quickly and stomp everything while I just exist
>>738008569>you take double damage when enemies can hit for 50 in one turn>because fuck you, RARE effect btw
btw why isn't there an option to search for random multiplayer games with players that aren't on your freind list
>>738008642as long as they aren't naming it "Slay the Spire 2"
>>738008703the same reason why there's not even a chat in multiplayer. Devs haven't thought about it
>>738008767they obviously have thought about it and decided they didn't want to deal with moderating it.
>>738008956>decided they didn't want to deal with moderating it.moderating what, friendly game chats?lmao, you can write NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER on map the same way how you can spam it in chat
Trading a Lucky Tonic for an upgraded Assassinate very early was one of the best decisions I ever made. I was a little worried near the end and picked up some block cards, but I still deleted everything very fast.
>>738009059If someone does that on the map now it's because they are someone you knew and decided to play with. It's fine. There's currently no way to find randoms to play with because they don't want to pay for a full time moderation team. Normalfags are not finding anons to play with on 4chan.
>>738008652>>738008569F2 it to MegaCrit
>>738009174Good thing you saved that potion for the next run
>>738003771>check out how hard i can doom
what's his problem?
>>737991229How many of the STS1 records do you hold? Because Xecnar has the one for Silent, Defect and Ironclad.
>>738009920He prioritizes uncommon cards first
>>738009835>he doesn't practice for act 4
>either 1 elite entire Act 1 or 3 elites with 2 or so hard fight in between with no bonfiresthanks, map
Is bash the worst card in the game? I can't think of a card that I would remove from my deck faster besides status cards.
>>738009835I was waiting to open it it after I triggered fairy in a bottle, but after that I never needed it.
>>738009920>never steals basics>never steals curses
Man, If I'd gotten some vulnerable card on Queen we might have won. GG.
>>738002230A treasure chest with juzu bracelet.
>>738009920>thins your deck for freeHe's a bro.
>>738010271Yeah I wasn't sure whether I should have nuked the minion but I feel like immediately going into Queen Turn 2 without my Void Form would have just folded us in half. Also my Bombardment got completely buried for like 10 turns
>>738010232>he doesn't know about the stealing priority orderHe'll never steal your basics/uncommons/curses unless those are literally the only things in your deck
>>738010057Bash is usually my first upgrade on ironclad.
I wanna play the next multiplayer round but I'm a noob so please be patient
>>738010057I think it's mid
Body Slam is such a weird commonAct 1? Borderline unpickable unless you happened to get a block-heavy deckAct 3 Body Slam+? Sure, I'll take 0 energy deal 30 damage
This one was kind of weird. My deck was not that good but the relic quality was so high it didn't even matter.
Would you guys be up for a game with that "no player limit" mod?See how silly we can go?
>>738009219Have modern game devs completely forgotten that you can just give players the tools to moderate their own shit
>>738007425it shouldn't take you that long to kill
Bitches don't know about my focus
>>738010904what if my internet connection is shit
>>737998779>>737997840fix your cards bro
>>738011037AAAAAA NexusMods do something!!!!
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243621793569/76561198143673966BETA BRANCH ASC 6
>>7380113562/4starting in 5
>>737997840>using the shitty human loli regent mod instead of the one that makes them an oppai loli with the funny star head still
>>738011472What mod?
>>7380113563/4
>>738011037>Shield Generator Relayoh man one of my favorite meme tactics in HD2 was dropping one of those then calling in a 500 on my position and having it stick into the bubble for an airburst (that you survive)
>>738011472> an oppai loli with the funny star head stillWhich mod
update?
>>738011356>>738011531alt tabbed too muchsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243622381264/76561198143673966
>>738011520>>738011545As if I'd share it with people with such inferior taste...
>>7380116393/4
>>738011472Her tits are too small desu, wouldn't really call it oppai
Primal Force should have exhaust synergy. Ironclad gets nothing out of transforming cards and it's even detrimental to running something like perfected strikes. Primal Force should just exhaust all attacks in hand instead and give you a copy of giant rock for each. That way your strikes still exist for perfected and he has another good exhaust synergy trigger. Would changing it like that be too OP?
>>738011889You aren't thinking of the mod I am talking about.
>>737991924If the other two options are fucking garbage its at least something that can sit in your hand and save a bad draw somewhat.
>>738011906Clad needs half his rare pool downgraded to uncommon with how garbage it is.
>>738011208kek that's right nexus mods has trannys that ban anything they don't like or is mean to womyn or some shit
>>738011997He has a lot of good rares too. I don't think making the weaker ones more common will help him. That would just make him worse.
>>738011906Write F2, genuinely good change, Clad doesn’t do creation and Primal Force is very weak outside act 1/speedrunning
How do I into asc9 ?
>>738010921that never works though anon. adding chat without moderation can only end negatively for megacrit because someone will cry loud enough to get them bad PR instead of just muting or leaving.
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>>737998186Add alternate on exhaust effects to Ironclad's dogshit cards Like>Cinder: When Exhausted, gain 3 Strength
bitch ass niggers ruined online gaming
>>737972193nobody plays this game
>>738012354we're literally playing the game right now
>>738012162Sent. I think primal forces itself would maybe need to exhaust itself with this change though since it's 0 cost could allow a bunch of weird infinites
>>738004376The Kingly moves are okay if you have several Photon Cuts/Indifferences alreadyI don't think its really a win condition unless you get a strong enchant on them though just decent damage for the cost
>>738012316if you weren't bitchmade youd join discord instead of bitching on 4chan
>>738012209It literally always worksThe purpose of these things are to give players the ability to play with one another and communicate, not for "PR"If they gave a fuck about any of that they'd be bending the knee for the chinks right now anyway
>>738011738So it doesn’t exist
>>738012628Are you just being purposefully retarded? There's 0 benefit to them adding in game chat. Use discord or something. There's no in game matchmaking anyway.
>>738012354based pragmata hater but you got the wrong thread
I'm sure someone will make a chat mod
>>738012473It wouldn't allow any infinite shit since it replaces what exhausts, eventually it just bricks your handBut with fnp it would be functionally infinite free block via just cycling rocks into rocks
Had a fun exhaust run on A9
>>738012814> There's 0 benefit to them adding in game chat.People can communicate without external programs
>>738012821nobody plays this game. sorry to ruin yall's 5 person public circle jerk thread
>>738012940Yeah that's what I was imagining. Having dark embrace, primal forces, and FNP going and playing it over and over for infinite block. Since that requires 2 rares and doesn't even have a win condition it's probably fine (you'd exhaust bodyslam). I guess if you had the perfect setup with juggernaut too it would work.
Thrash + Ashen Strike is a decent core combo to build around
>>738012940> But with fnp it would be functionally infinite free block via just cycling rocks into rocksEven with with 3 energy stoke can do same 3 times, giving you more block that any enemy can deal and that’s in game already
>>738012961doubt it
>>738012580AHAHAHHAHAHHA
>>738013120I won, and even got to make use of the soot relic ^^
>>738012240I'm just getting endless loading, did you kill the lobby?
>>738013159proud of you, keep up the good work
>>738013039why do you sound jealous?
Low ascension beta versionCome for comfy timessteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243626060703/76561198065375276
>>7380135193/4
Eventually once I get my friend to multiplayer A10 doing duos with him, I'm getting him to these /v/ lobbies to experience the chaos. Speedster draw spam deck cycling meme on Silent is a valid way to play provided you also have Afterimage. If you don't have energy via a relic then you absolutely need at least one Tactician+ or Production+ or even Automation. Once Speedster is up then all you do is spam Acro/Prepared/Backflip, though I will say Expertise and Follow-Through are also great cards to have. Murder is more of a finisher than a win-more card in that case.
I love playing silent
>>738013950Why is there no meme art of the other characters larping/cosplaying as Silent with just Bag of Prep while Silent stands there watching them with her Ring of the Snake?
>>738012962How does that benefit Megacrit
>>737997840>>737998779I kneel, regentgaki
>>738012863Like 5 of these already existAlso to that one guy who was looking for it, someone uploaded a mod that displayed potion/card reward/unknown room oddshttps://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/339
>>738005097Based skipchad
>>738011639gg guys, don't know who nuked the final boss at the start
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243628516063/76561197964728969let's do some MP, beta branch
ayy lmao
that shitty relic from the past event only ever gives me the one that raises max hp for taking curses.fuck that I am only picking the card one from now on.
>>7380147343/4
>>738014862That choice is gambling for maws bank or dream catcher. Otherwise its not worth choosing the relic since any of the removed cards will help you more. Especially if you luckfag entrench or dual wield
>>738014862I always get the one that makes attacks do 5 dmg minimumI never have attacks that do <5 damage when I see that event
>>738014734giving it 5 more minutes before we go as 3
>>738015187Of course you wouldn't, it's an act 1 event.
>Get doornigger four times in a rowFUCK YOU
>>738015515statistically the lowest killcount act 3 boss btw
>>738015553only if you don't count the 410,757,864,530 chink feelings
>>738005814>Serendipity Incarnate>ALWAYS offers instant win choiceswhat did they mean by this?
GG
GG brosDefect sucks in MP, but at least this time I got some support going onThrowing pots at everyone with Belt+Frond
>>738016120>Defect sucks in MPi think he is by far the worst
>>738016120Also got a cool combo with Heavenly Drill + Chem X + tons of energy but never managed to pull it off except on that robot fight that replaces itself when killedKek. Talk about countered
>>738016107>>738016120GG that was fun4 copies of juggernaut+ along with sneaky. Only had block cards and powers
>>738016120Defect can do work as a carry if you've got an ally to block for you. But the standard frost/dark builds are shit MP yeah.
