>>737982126
>$800
says who?

>>737982126
it's actually an equivalent of a rig with 5080 and 7800X3D

>$800

lmao its going to be $1200

>>737982126
and it will still be better than playing on console.

>>737982126
>$800
kek, try $1000 at least

>>737982126
PS5 needs PS+ for online stuff so it's actually like 1300$ for a PS5

>>737983919
who cares about online games, faggot

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>>737982126
Valve vaxies will still suck his dick.

>>737983956
Who cares about games, amirite fellow snoy?

>>737982126
I don't put anything past proprietary tools anymore.

PSSR is already better than VRR and FMF.

>>737982126
But sarssss it has linux benchod!

>>737982354
Ok but, why not buy just a pc then?

>>737982126
obviously it's just not built for you elite gaymers who need ultra settings on every game to jack off to.

>>737982126
is there a low-power and cheap x3d chip they could be sticking in these things?
or does that not exist?

>>737984101
small form factor. i essentially want a mini pc with a dedicated graphics card.

>>737984213
mini-ITX exists.
or you could buy a mini-PC and use an external GPU.

>>737984256
>mini-ITX exists.
>or you could buy a mini-PC and use an external GPU.
Confirmed for not having your own home or a wife
You 100% could not build a PC as nice as the Steam Machine in the 6 in cube form factor period. go ahead and try. It doesn't exist

>external GPU
Larger than the entire Steam Machine

>>737984343
yeah but you can buy a mini-PC with the cube's small footprint with a stronger APU that also consumes less power.
they made zen4/5 rdna3 APUs that pull 120W.

>>737984392
>you can't do X
>yeah but you can do Y which is completely different and not the same
You are a retard. The use case for the Steam Machine is exactly what it sounds like. It's not meant to replace your PC in your room lil buddy

>>737984543
I'm just saying that you shouldn't consider it a dedicated gpu. it's not going to deliver that kind of performance and is already outclassed by current APUs.

>NOOOOOO STOP LIKING VALVE AND BUYING THEIR STUFF
>THEYRE GONNA FAIL
>LOOK HOW BAD IT IS
lmao

>>737984543
>It's not meant to replace your PC in your room
>It's meant to please the wifey and her bull
Am I reading this correctly?

>>737982126
think about the rams

>>737982126
Yikes

>>737984973
>reddit user immediately starts talking about cuck shit
Take some time off, fix your brain

>>737982126
$800 is a cheap price for a small PC that dont require you to pay to play online and you can emulate PS2 games with the power.

>>737982126

too bad nobody cares and it will still be a success , no one gives a fuck about specs they just care about the product and the brand

>>737982126
it's about portability, fucks sake. yeah anyone can make a simple rig that plays 1080p60fps but an itx build will cost over $1500

>>737986229
wow

>>737982126
I still play on my 3DS primarily. (((Graphics))) are the biggest meme that has ever been. Art style is the only thing that has any value whatsoever. An Amiga game looks better than CoD Blops VII.

I'll get two. One for my rumpus room and one for my goon cave.

>>737982126
Why wouldn't you have a PC with a 5090 in 2026? They're practically free.

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>>737982126
Dont care, still buying a steam machine

>>737982126
Yeah that thing is extremely DoA

Don't listen to him xisters, the shilling must continue

>>737982354
>15-30% weaker than the RTX 5050
PS5 Pro is RTX 5060 Ti tier and $200 cheaper than the Steam Machine. And it lacks exclusives.

>>737986143
You don't belong here, normie. Go post on Boomerbook, or whatever it is that you do.

>>737986754
AMD's discrete GPUs aren't 5060Ti tier. What makes you think their APUs are?

>>737984892
>nooo i need to defend that fat faggot gayben like the good little goy i am
Lmao @ your life

>>737987290
Name one viable alternative to Steam. You can't.

>>737987085
5070 Ti can't even beat a 7900 XTX let alone the 60 Ti

>>737987383
pirating

>>737987574
>slower downloads
>patches come later
>multiplayer doesn't work or is limited to playing with other pirates
So no real alternative.

>>737986628
>Yeah that thing is extremely DoA
Nope, it's going to sell out every time it comes in stock.

>>737987638
sounds like a skill issue on your part
but hey, if you wanna dickride daddy gayben go for it fag, i am sure they love not only getting your money but also the fact you defend them for free

Isnt the 7600 a great budget cpu?
>inb4 6 cores for games

>>737987758
>FUCKING FUCK SHIT FUCK FAGGOT FUCK SHIT FUCK
You sound so happy to be poor.

>>737987801
yes. techtubers are out of touch and are recommending enthusiast parts because they think all gamers want to play the latest AAA sloppa at 8k with path tracing.

>>737987856
clearly not as happy as you do with gayben’s cock in your mouth

>>737987801
Yes, it's great.

>>737987889
This. You can see the arguments in this very thread, recommending things like just building a larger PC with different parts and things like external GPUs and other stupid ideas since they don't understand why people would buy a steam machine

Basically they are poor I think

>>737987915
I bought him a yacht. I bet that makes you happy since you live in a mud hut.

>>737984101
Windows 11 is *that* bad

>>737988092
Works on my machine.™
>but what about [shit that isn't true] or [shit only turboautists care about]?
I'm waiting with bated breath for you to tell me how Recall (which isn't on x86-64) is monitoring my system or how I can't make my taskbar circular.

>>737982126
Every game console ever has been a weaker PC?

I'm really surprised people have such strong opinions about this thing. Either it fits your use case and you're interested or you're not. Whats with all the autism? Go argue about something that matters.

>>737988383
Autists gonna aut

>>737988334
The PS5 Pro is as powerful as 100 5090s. It'll take decades for PC vegans to catch up.

>>737988072
>if you aren’t a gayben cocksucker like me you are poor!
you’re a really pathetic faggot lmao, and forgive me but i really doubt your monthly autism check affords you much of anything

>>737982126
ok, i've been using a ryzen 5 3600 and a rtx 2060 for the last like 5 years, i'm still going to buy it

>>737982126
It's gonna be $1000
remember: you voted for this

>>737988035
Because you're buying an outdated overpriced part retard. I wouldn't recommend anybody to buy a PS5 if the PS6 was already released either.

>>737982126
The only reason retards are going to buy this absolute dogshit pc for +1k$ is because It has the steam brand attached to it, same reason those very same subhumans are playing deadlock an absolute dogshit game, cultists are fucking subhumans

If you're worried about the Steam Machine being too weak you're not the target audience for the Steam Machine to begin with. Just invest in a proper PC

>>737989443
Ok

>>737982126
>Valve is a joke.
So you've finally noticed? :)

>>737986754
>And it lacks exclusives.
PC has more exclusives than every console ever combined.

>>737989091
If the PS5 could still play every game you would want to play and the PS6 was a colossal fucking desktop tower that didn't fit in your TV stand, I would still recommend a PS5.

A $800 PC can play the entire library of the PS2. Can a PS5 from 2020 do that? It only costs about $40 to mod a PS2 to do the same. If you buy a PS5 it is for the latest FIFA or some other slop and basically you're a stupid son of a bitch.

>>737982126
You don't understand valvegros, they are worse than snoys

>>737984134
There is no point in an x3D chip when the gpu is so fucking ass

>>737983919
And you can't play anti cheat games on the Steam Machine.

>>737990964
why not? I can play games with anti-cheats on my 'eck.

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>>737982126
>ryzen 5 7600 is $200+ in my country
ever since covid, amd cpu prices have gone up more than usual where I live, and I don't want to buy intel again because I've had a bad experience with them before, and I also don't want to have to upgrade my cpu every 2 or 3 years

>>737988092
this, every month I see an article how the latest windows update fucked up this or that. At this point I'll wait for windows 12 to "upgrade" to 11

>>737989909
Hardly any from this gen.

>>737982126
An R5 7600 and RTX 3060 doesn't sound terrible.

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Valvefags will talk with pride of how getting scammed is a good thing and anyone not getting scammed is broke

>>737988509
Damn you fucking destroyed that retarded shill.

>>737982354
it essentially is a console with all the disadvantages of PC. only a retard would buy it

>>737983919
>1300$
esl

>>737983919
Bought a ps5 for $450 6 years ago and it outpeforms valve's $800+ scam 6 years later

>>737990964
You can, just specific games block Linux out. Usually though not always the AAA games.

>>737982126
I dont know why anyone is surprised. Steam Machines were a failure of a decade ago.

>>737991701
same with the first steam controller, at the end they had to sell it on clearance for like $5 because no one wanted it

>>737991701
something forget history something repeat it

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>>737982126
>>737982198
I think the steam machine is a cute thingy but nah, not even good as a console replacement when you can just have this for around $1000 give or take and install same OS (or some other Linux Distro if you want to make a next-gen (PS6) steambox.

>>737991701
>>737991854
>Valve doesn't call them steam machine 2 or steam controller 2 so people don't realise they've failed in the past
Sneaky.

>>737987431
the 5070 ti beats the 7900x in literally every single category besides vram, and i guess rasterization if you were dumb enough to buy a non-pathtracing card in the pathtracing era.

>>737982126
Swing and a miss from valve!

>>737992210
current Steam Controller however is a great addition and only thing I'm looking forward to from this batch of electronic toys.

>>737982126
Its a handheld why are retards expecting it to even remotely be on the same level of a desktop pc?

>muh stats
Don't care, steam machine has SOVL and I will buy day 1.

>>737993106
>Its a handheld
It's not. It's just a cheapo console (but it's a PC so it actually has games).

>>737986754
>>737987085
>>737987431
>>737992252
do i remember correctly fag foundry said the ps5 is a 2070s?

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>>737993137
>so it actually has games
not for zoomers. only AAA anti cheat games that work are Valve's own
it's good for indies and entry into emulation
but not for that price

>https://areweanticheatyet.com/table/73/?search=&sortOrder=&sortBy=status

>>737993707
yeah when you got a rig like: >>737992006
you basically beat Valve and Snoy offerings for the next gen.

>>737991293
>Hardly any from this gen.

PS5 is even worse when it comes to exclusives this gen

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>>737982126
Steam Deck and Steam Machine is for those who do not wish to build their own PC, mod their own games and to have accessibility into the competitive space of PC Storefronts and the huge library of the last 40 years of Video Games. It's a gateway for former Console players who think "PC is too hard to setup or to use" or essentially those who think it's expensive.

>>737993752
basically. it totally depends what you want out of it
for the old fags on here it will be a cute little toy under their TV or as second NUC-like PC on their desk
but any alpha kid buying this thing to play Fortnite with his friends is in for a rude awakening, presupposing their parents buy them a $1000 box in the first place
imagine the refunds once these kids realize it's not operating Windows and running into god knows what issues under Windows or whatever media features missing they shilled during promo tours (there have been some)
it certainly will be a fun release. hopefully some refund stories will make it on the internet

>>737994021
China-helds like Ayn Thor also fill the same space mostly for emulation use but in a form compact way (unless you play through streaming apps/storefronts through android), people generally wanted an option that was easy to carry around and play around with, but the Deck is too large for that in general if it requires a carrying pack and does not fit in a pocket. Carrying a huge brick is not very comfortable idea even if you travel with a backpack around 24/7.

>>737994053
they can emulate android fortnite on it thoughbeit

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>>737982126
This is not true, but I still don't really see the point in getting a Steam Machine. Just buy a PC from your local shop or build one yourself.

>>737994172
you are retarded howeverthoughbeit
post POC

>>737994021
You can mod your games and genitals on the Steam Deck and Steam Machine, though.

>>737984101
It is a PC.

>>737994191
what's her name on the left

>>737986294
You baka. No one cares about portability enough to pay MORE than the competition. Besides, where are you getting the $1500 figure from? Especially for fukken 1080p60. SFF shit doesn't ask nearly that much.

>>737994772
Jason Thor Hall.

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>>737994772
>her

>>737994830
jason huh. tricky stuff

why not just get a cheaper existing mini PC with better specs?

>>737994191
What video games do they play?

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>>737994191
>>737995054
>What video games do they play?
Cuphead.

>>737995054
Japanese stuff, most likely.

>>737992006
Just saying, but i got that exact build(except i got 32GB RAM), and it can NOT do stable 60fps 4K even with upscaling, meanwhile the Steam Machine can

>>737994982
cause all mini PCs with better specs are NOT cheaper
Most mini PCs around the 1000-1200 dollars mark can do 1080p 60fps WITH upscaling, anything with better specs than that and you go to 1500 dollars and up

>250+140 = 390
>mobo + case + ram + drive left at an average of 100 to 150 each
What's the problem?

>>737982126
>already at $390 out of a supposed $800 budget with two components
And the motherboard, ram, case, storage drives, etc.?

>>737982126
a ps5 is equivalent to a 2050, what is this retarded shit?

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>>737991412
Disadvantages such as being able to upgrade the device whenever.
Being able to play a much bigger catalog of games than your wannabe PC of a console through emulators.
Being able to use every mod available for whatever game you're playing.
Optionally using Reshade to enhance your experience.
Et cetera.
In short, you're a retard.

>>737995164
>the steam machine can
Based on what? Valve has yet to release benchmarks of their own. Not to mention that the hardware will be plain weaker than the PC posted above. A 7600M is much weaker than a desktop class 5060.

>>737995343
why did you post a picture of yourself?

>>737995343
you have only listed advantages of PC, you are the retard

>>737995417
first, is what they claim, 4K 60fps with upscaling
second, more than one person(reviewers, tech youtubers, etc) got a chance to try the machine a few months ago, and they all reported that although it was definitely upscaling, all games they had a chance to try(which included CP2077) definitely ran at 60 or more fps.

>>737991412
>all the disadvantages of PC
such as? i cant even think of one

>>737995164
i mean never mind logic, what the announced specs are, or whatever else. they said it's for running games at 4K with upscaling which means UE5 games will run at 4K/60 with Performance upscaling... is this actually what you believe. Because if so I have an 8K-compatible PS5 to sell you you gullible twat

>>737982198
lol
LAMO even
the only interesting shit valve has is the VR set which looks pretty damn good vs the competitors even with the weaker cameras.

>>737982126
Oh my god, then don't fucking buy it. Shut the fuck up already dude. Let it fail on its own.

>>737982126
Valve is going to take a loss and sell the 512GB Steam Machine without the controller for $700 while selling the 512GB model with the controller bundle for $750. The 2TB models will be $900 and $950. Mike Straw said that Valve wanted to sell it under $800 before the RAM crisis. Before the RAM shortage they weren't willing to take a loss. Post-RAM shortage, they're fine with taking a short-term loss as they'll start selling it at a profit after that. Moore's Law is Dead is a retard that doesn't know pricing. PS6 will be $900, PS6 handheld will be $650, Xbox Helix will be $1200-$1500, Steam Deck 2 will be $600. Switch 2 OLED revision is most likely $500.

>>737982126
Total console death.

>>737982126
PC has games though

>>737995850
>Moore's Law is Dead is a retard
true, no one should take that bobble head seriously, he makes shit up constantly for clicks

>>737982126
unlike the ps5 steam has games

>>737982126
imagine paying 800 dollars for a 4050 rtx tier rebuilt

valvedr00nes are the clowns they have been making fun of for decades, buying overpriced and underpowered prebuilts

>>737986754
>PS5 Pro is RTX 5060 Ti tier
An underclocked 4060ti* because the cooling sucks ass

>>737996886
>PS5 is RTX5060ti tier.
no, not even close not on any set up, anyone saying this is a lying snoyfaggot, at best PS5 of any sort maxes out at 3080ti

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It always ok when valve does it.

>loot boxes
ok when valve does it
>battle pass
ok when valve does it
>shutting down games arbitrarily and removing them from your library
ok when valve does it
>killing PC gaming by turning into a centralized DRM platform
ok when valve does it
>killing PC gaming by making it accessible to retards
ok when valve does it
>selling overpriced junk hardware
ok when valve does it

>>737991173
Trust me when I say this, but CPU's tend to last a long time if you prioritize a mid-range to high-range one overall. CPU's have a long shelf life and with how competitive it has been between AMD and Intel in recent years they are making absolute hardware monsters with CPU's.

>>737997297
>loot boxes
Don't play shitty games.
>battle pass
Don't play shitty games.
>shutting down games arbitrarily and removing them from your library
The Crew was a mistake, and they admitted that. Not their game, though.
>killing PC gaming by turning into a centralized DRM platform
You mean reviving PC games after developers went running to the 360 and PS3, with some games still stuck on those platforms.
>killing PC gaming by making it accessible to retards
It's always been accessible to retards. Why do you think Blizzard did so well?
>selling overpriced junk hardware
Who cares? Don't buy it.
>>737997536
The problem is that poors (especially those playing on the Steam Machine) are running at resolutions that are heavily CPU limited.

Okay, just to be clear with everyone here: the Steam Machine would be something you buy if you didn't have a pc that could run games (or just run them extremely poorly) and you didn't plan to do much else that a pc could also do. That sounds like the market demographic, right?

>>737997904
the market demographic is people who are right around the right time that they were already going to upgrade or get a new pc and they're smart enough to realise there's not going to be a single good game with high hardware requirements again because aaa is complete shit

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>>737982126
PC components age too damn quick for a Steam Machine to be viable. It'll last like 2-3 years tops in this unoptimized, jeeted up hellscape.

>>737997297
>>shutting down games arbitrarily and removing them from your library
name them
>>737997297
>>killing PC gaming by turning into a centralized DRM platform
who's going to tell him

>>737982126
>weaker than 5050
Source besides shitter screencaps?

>>737998114
There's going to be a huge financial incentive to not shit up games and properly scale them down wheren proton officially releases for arm
Plus the ps5 will be relevant until 2030 at least

>>737998224
You're not gonna teach a jeet to scale anything down, it's too complicated. And the poeple who know how are either already laid off or the only white person in the company.

>>737982126
who the fuck cares, when are they going to release the STEAM FRAME

I WANT A STEAM FRAME ALREADY

>>737998114
an upper mid range pc lasts like 6 years you gay retard unless you shit yourself the second you can't run ultra

>>737998254
too bad, they're going to have to do it, you're giving them a chance to bite off a chunk of that 50% mobile revenue pie

>>737998150
>>737997570
like I said it's ok when valve does it

okay if the steam machine is a ripoff
then tell me EXACTLY what to get that is at least as good if not better and the prices for it
I ONLY have a steam deck
that is my ONLY COMPUTER

>>737998625
You can't name one valid competitor for Steam. If what they've done is so unconscionable, why hasn't anyone done it right?

>>737998625
>i've proven i'm a retard
should've led with that and not waste everyone's time with schizo vomit

>>737998787
why are you mad? I already told you it's all ok because valve is the one doing it.

>>737998660
no one knows if it's a ripoff because no one knows the price tag

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Never actually checked the official homepage but damn, I'm sold now.

>>737998660
no one can because all the anti steam machine posts are just tim sweeney desperately shitposting in anger

>>737998660
>tell me EXACTLY
read the thread. see for example >737992006

>>737998824
why even still respond you fucking schizo
>why are you mad
just calling you out on your schizo babble. why are you tho

If you're looking for space efficiency, then if the price is the same, ITX motherboards and SFF PSUs cost more.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XvycTm
This is without the PSU, as I couldn't find one, although one of that size, at least 500W, costs around $100, and the graphics card isn't SFF.

>>737999051
I keep telling you there's no problem because it's valve doing it, what more do you want?

>>737982126
Cool, now let's see Paul Allen's RAM prices.

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>>737982126
Yeah it's gonna bomb

>800
999 minimum plus tip (no joypad included)

>>737999019
that pc is literally worse than the steam machine you fucking retard

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>>737982126
What's the L3 cache on the Steam Machine CPU? Increasing it is basically free performance for little cost and you get $200 CPUs outperforming $500 CPUs (one of the reasons AMD stopped doing most of their AM4 X3D CPUs).

>>737999231
I'm convinced everyone who says "plus tip" for prices isn't American and therefore supports Al Qaeda.

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>>737986754
>PS5 Pro is RTX 5060 Ti tier

The steam machine will set a new standard, that's a good thing

>>737994191
these boys heads shaped like they're s&box characters

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>>737999019
that's a wrong estimate
compare it to existing chink mini pcs like this one
this one is better on many fronts, more cpu cores, bigger ssd than the base model and double the ram
the only ways it's lacking is not having a gpu and the controller bundled in

>>737999425
Doesn't have valve branding kid, it's a bust

>>737999446
the point was to show that chinks can make a profit on this thing while also selling it on amazon, who also takes a chunk out of those profits
valve is selling it themselves, that'll make it cheaper too

>>737988092
just install troonix on your pc?

>>737998954
Don't forget microjeet they are panicking the most

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>>737999425
>gaming PC
>not having a gpu bundled in

>>737994021
Already built a sff pc last year but if the steam machine is under a grand I might get one, because the ram is upgradable and not soldered, when ram prices return to normal I might upgrade

>>737999591
It's an APU.

>>737984101
That's what I've been telling consolefags this whole time, but hey here comes Lord Gaben handing down the slop to swine like you

>>737999591
it's not an example of a gaming pc, just a mini pc
if you were to turn that into a steam machine all you'd need to do is improve the power supply and make room for a gpu on the motherboard
that's not going to massively increase that $570 price tag considering you're also cutting costs with the ram and the cpu and not giving a cut to amazon

>>737997297
>loot boxes
It's all cosmetic and doesn't affect the gameplay at all. If you happen to have TF2, which you can also get in the game, it has its own balance.
>battle pass
The battle pass is recent and it's garbage, nothing more to say, and I don't play CS2 anyway.
>shutting down games arbitrarily and removing them from your library
Which Steam games have had this issue? It's only third-party games, and the last case I remember was with Crew. How many cases are there? Just asking legitimately.
>killing PC gaming by turning into a centralized DRM platform
All third-party DRM or launchers with Denuvo, whether from Ubisoft or EA, are affected, and current consoles are also affected by the latter two. I have a test SD card on which I installed Steam games via the Steam Deck after several months of not having that SD card connected, and with the console offline, I was able to run those games (Dying Light, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Fable, L4D2, and Hollow Knight).
>killing PC gaming by making it accessible to retards
Consoles have been doing that for a long time, I don't see a problem with that either; rather, I think that's been Nintendo's philosophy from the beginning, for example, so that even your grandpa can play a game of Mario.
>selling overpriced junk hardware
The Steam Deck is well-priced in comparison and has more or less dictated the price of handheld PC. The Steam Controller has TMR, gyro, trackpad, and a replaceable battery; no controller under $130 offers even half of that. What was unbeatable, however, was its Steam Index, which was quite expensive but offered interesting technologies for a truly recent niche: VR.

>>737991412
>it essentially is a console with all the disadvantages of PC
Enjoy having to spend 30 mins browsing and learning control setups for every single game, and fiddling with the trackpads like a shitty laptop with no mouse connected.

>>737988092
Windows 10 IoT LTSC works perfectly and has support until 2032

>>737999721
The Steam Machine uses a regular GPU instead of an APU? Why? Wouldn't someone just buy a regular PC if they wanted to upgrade it later?

>>737999794
>IoT
ermm this won't cause any prooblems will it?

>>737999836
Yes. It doesn't support directstorage and the CPU scheduler is old and shitty.
There are literally people on this board who bitch about stuttering and popin in games where if they had a modern version of Windows, it would be properly streaming from SSD to VRAM.

>>737999836
No. It won't. Not anywhere near as bad as the problems Win11 has caused, anyway.

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https://github.com/ps5-linux/ps5-linux-loader
for everyone who didn't update
free steam machine

>>737999817
It's like the laptops they sell you nowadays with all that soldered on. I don't know if the RAM has a slot (SO-DIMM), I think it does, and of course an M.2 slot (where you could probably connect a GPU for Lols).

>>737982126
what would be the point of making a high end steam box?
at that point, you can just build a high end PC
that thing is for retards who are too mentally stunted to slot a couple lego bricks together

>>737999981
>>737999059

>>737999973
>all that soldered on
The worst aspects of APUs and dedicated GPUs with the benefits of neither.

>>737999940
For me, having to look for a PS5 with firmware lower than version 4.50 (almost everyone tries to sell them for more than a new PS5 costs) and possibly having to deal with liquid metal when doing maintenance is a bit of a hassle.

>>737982126
Can't believe Valve will have the gall to charge 600 bucks for that crap (1 Steam controller included in the package).

>>737999940
Lol the tard box

>>738000205
>600
No way. The original Steam Machine was $800 in 2015. With today's prices, adjusted for inflation and current market rates, the Steam Machine will start at $1999.95.

>>738000059
The advantage is that each component has its own separate memory and doesn't have to use slower memory with the CPU, and it's cheaper. The only remotely similar thing on the market with only an APU is the Ryzen AI Max+ PRO 395, and any related hardware costs at least $1500. Consoles always sell at a loss because they expect to recoup their investment when you pay for their software and online services for several years.

>>737988998
If only the party of dementia and manipulation would have won, then we would have the Epstein files now and cackling Kamela would have given Israel back to Palestine.

>>737984890
>you shouldn't consider a dedicated gpu a dedicated gpu

>>737999724
CS:GO was shut down and replaced with CS2 in everyone's library, they recently reinstated it though but still, everyone was defending the decision when it happened because it's ok when valve does it.

>>738000321
CS:GO never left, I had it on my Macbook still because Valve refuses to release CS2 for Mac.

>>737999059
>If you're looking for space efficiency
Use-case for it?
Genuinely asking btw

>>738000321
Even Valve fears EU, the refund mechanic was due to EU as well.

>>737982126
it's ok when nintendo does it

>>738000387
Physical space efficiency is wanting to fit your computer/console in the shelf below the TV next to the VCR that isn't used in the last 15 years.

>>737998953
are you 12?

>>738000321
>CS:GO was shut down and replaced with CS2 in everyone's library, they recently reinstated it though but still
>they recently reinstated
There it is, they put it up and it didn't disappear forever(plus it's the same game They only changed the engine for more modern hardware; all that third-world hardware people complained about was the squealing of junk hardware.), and you could still get a pirated copy; it has CS 1.6 and sources, and you can play on unofficial servers.
>it's ok when valve does it.
Yes, because when other companies do it, they're 1000 times worse and they never fix their mess.

>>738000390
Yeah the timing makes me think it's related to SKG too. I also recall blizzard being heavily criticized for doing the same thing with overwatch 2, somehow that wasn't ok but it was ok when valve did it.

Aren't small PCs prone to overheating?
My laptop's infamous i7-9850H would gladly cook itself at 100C in games if I were to not use ThrottleStop and that's is the in mobile workstation class, meaning pretty strong fans and generally better thermal mass.
Are people okay with gaming laptops heating up to the water boiling point?

>>738000493
12 inches deep in yo mom LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

>>738000461
>wanting to fit your computer below the TV
But why? Just use a long HDMI cable if you want couch PC gaming for some reason

>>737999817
APUs are a meme, it's better and cheaper to separate them out
look at the 8060s, it's expensive as shit and still gets destroyed by a $350 8gb 9060xt

>>738000387
These days you're lucky if you can get a room larger than 30m2 and your job requires you to move around. I was forced to buy a laptop because I couldn't always be at home with my desktop computer with an RTX 5080. I had planned to build an ITX system, taking advantage of the fact that my RTX 5080 is SFF, but RAM prices have put that on hold.

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>>737999316
but my retarded fellow white brother. don't be so retarded... it's a festive day. please
>FSR = amd gpu
>rumored 5050 output
please, itzhak

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>>737992006
>295.3mm x 460mm x 210mm
>600w power draw
>156mm x 152mm x 162mm
>250w power draw

Naw, I'm good paying the valve tax

>>737999817
Because discrete GPUs have better thermal efficiency, and they designed the Machine around the cooling solution (literally, they engineered the fan, and case airflow, first before deciding specs)

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I hope Half Life 3 isn't gimped by these shitty specs, that's my only worry.

>>738000732
>he still thinks HL3/HLX is coming out

>>738000558
If they'd really care they could design the thing so it doesn't overheat. Sadly, they choose a ryzen 7xxx based cpu, this particular series of ryzen cpu are for some fucking reason designed to run at their max temp most of the time during heavy load. I love my 7800X3D and I made extra sure my case has the best air cooling but there's nothing you can do with these cpus, they will reach their max temp very easily by default. So unless, they tune it to lower it's max temp (which is very easy, I did it, it will cost some perf though) then at least the cpu on this thing will run hot for sure. And the cooling system of both cpu and gpu are sharing the same fan.

>>738000732
HLA looked pretty good already and it was years ago, I don't see why they would gimp HL3.

>>737999425
>he thinks 5050 is 12 CU
>>737999483
>valve is selling it themselves, that'll make it cheaper too
oh anon

we were looking price equivalent, not performance equivalent

>>738000968
>If they'd really care they could design the thing so it doesn't overheat.
Gotta impress the customers with high specs and benchmarks for relatively cheap, everything else is secondary.

Inane poorfaggotry in this thread. And the poorfaggots are the ones overspending, so they can stay poor. Pretty funny if you'd ask me. Should've bought a PC over a year ago or a PS5 Pro before the price increased. Poorfaggots always miss the boat

>>737999425
why do you keep comparing it to mobile apus when it's all but confirmed to be desktop-derived stripped back and downclocked 7600

>>738001503
because it has a 30w tdp according to valve
all this box lacks is the gpu to match steam machine specs

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>>738001571
????

>>738001571
so you think it's a semi-custom 7840HS?
>>738001674
bruh we're talking about the CPU not GPU

>>738001674
7600 the cpu
apu is a term that refers to the cpu first and foremost, it's obviously going to be using a dgpu and all that chink mini pc would need is space on the motherboard to accommodate it and a better power supply

>>738000608
APUs are a space/heat/power usage advantage.

>>738002232
and an extreme price/performance disadvantage that makes them worthless
the ai max 395+ with the 8060s costs $2200 at minimum
at that price point you're getting a 9070xt pc and still have plenty of money left over and that shit stomps it by more than a 2x margin

>>738002232
APUs are a memory bandwidth/performance disadvantage

>>738002606
>>738002717
The idea is miniaturization, not price/performance. You jam an APU in something like a NUC.

>>737982126
we don't even know how much it will cost
the point that xitter nigger is making is that the 1000 dollaroos that df and ltt said based purely on vibes in incredibly out of touch

>>738002775
okay?
the steam machine isn't a NUC though, it's a "console-like" SFF PC

>>738002775
there's no point to using an apu instead of a much cheaper cpu and gpu combination if you're making hardware which focuses on the gpu
apus only make sense at the budget level where you don't actually want to fight dgpus and just need ok performance video output

>>738002910
It doesn't say it has an APU, though.

>>738003121
exactly?

>>738003208
So why are you arguing with me? I just stated where APUs are at an advantage. If you want to have a small set top box, you want an APU because of heat and size.

>>738003119
this
APUs make sense if you were building a NUC but that isn't the goal of the Steam machine

>>738003307
>I just stated where APUs are at an advantage.
They aren't for this use-case, CPU + dGPU is better for gaming, that's why they are not using an APU

>>737984343
if you have a wife you shouldn’t be here.

>>738003342
And we're in agreement on that. But you're still arguing with me.
>this car is nice
>FUCK YOU, I LIKE THIS CAR

>>737982126
weak hardware's a good thing, though
>retard consumerist goycattle gobble it up
>they start complaining that the latest AAA slop won't run on their steamcubes
>AAA slop makers stop cramming garbage like memetracing and TMAA into their games
>suddenly you don't need a 5090 RTX for the "luxury" of achieving 30 FPS anymore
>finally games start running at a solid 60 FPS (or more) on mid-range cards
it's a win-win

>>738003436
All I've been talking about is why they would choose CPU+GPU over an APU, not sure what your interpretation was for this argument

>>737998114
can still play any game released this year with my 3060 in mid-high settings.
>b-b-b-but YOU DON'T GET IT. that unnoticeable piece of texture on the grass will look blurry!! ! i need to spend 1200$ just to see that in 4k HD
LMAO @ consoomers.

>>738003450
But then we wouldn't have our GOTY, Pragmata.

>>737982126
When the hardware has all uniform parts, much like consoles, you can get a lot more juice out of the system. The main issue is having to deal with different drivers and millions of possible hardware combinations. Eliminate that and this box should be as good as a PS5.

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>>737999425
I did some digging and the closest equivalent I can find to the Steam machine's spec is the minisforum HX100, but its GPU is weaker
https://minisforumpc.eu/products/minisforum-neptune-series-hx90g
(note: pic is barebone option with no RAM or storage selected)

I think this should give you some clues of how much it'll cost, as we know the Steam machine has a better GPU than this, plus it includes a controller, and a 2tb SKU...$900+ is looking very likely to me

>>738004046
Wow

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>>737982126
>tfw stuck on laptop with a ryzen 4 and 1660 ti
>tfw steam machine would be an upgrade even at 1000 bucks

>>737982126
Valve has said it will be a good deal, so this doesn’t make sense.

>>737988092
SteamOS is available or you can just run basically any modern distro and launch into big picture mode, that's the bulk of what steamos even does on a high level.
If you are too retarded to install linux yourself you probably should just stick to windows tho

>>738005052
that was before RAM got fucked

>>738005052
$800 would be a crazy good deal for the 2tb model. See >>738004664

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!ALERT ALERT!
Tranny hardware
Tranny hardware

We on /v/ do NOT support the wokebox!

Build your own PC! Or buy a SFF PC from a non-white-genocidal retailer!

I REPEAT: WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE WOKEBOX!

>>737982126
Valve is not competing with consoles
They're competing with prebuilts

>>738005361
lol you're desperate, you've been reposting this over and over like you think you're swooning anyone with it when you're undoubtedly using windows

>>738005194
That is universal to the industry. The term “good deal” is relative to other deals.

>>738005385
Is this the cope we're now running with

>>738005194
>steam machines 1.0: fucked by incompetent 3rd parties
>steam machines 2.0: fucked by jeets
Cursed product.
I was pretty interested in the controller, not really the box, but at their current price points both products seem pretty unattractive now.
(But I'm also a cheap fuck that uses their HW until it breaks or fully outdated, so maybe it's just a me problem)

>>738005385
they're obviously competing with consoles, the features that define the 'ube are what consoles have but without the console baggage
thing is, they want to spawn a market of hardware manufacturers competing with consoles, they're just laying down the blueprints

>>738005542
Steam Machine will launch with support for literally 45,000 more games than PS5. What is the point of comparing them?

>>738005434
I'm on endeavour actually but you know you can install valve's meme os on whatever you want right? You really need to slip $1k to a fat leftist to install an operating system for you?

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>>737982126

>>738005637
yes, the target audience will specifically want the form factor and the preinstalled os

>>738005468
I mean, in spite of what OP claims it is more powerful than a PS5 and should be roughly equal to the PS5 pro (but will likely cost more than the pro), so the question boils down to whether consumers will care for a product that is analogous to a PS5 pro as an open platform.

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>>738003932
That's serious cope. 4k Ultra at 100+ fps is amazing.

>>738005704
Agreed

>>738005637
My tech-illiterate mother floats the idea of getting a new iphone the moment it doesn't behave. The sentiment of throwing absurd money at a problem is very real among normals.

>>738005976
Apple encouraged that in the iMac days.
>computer is running slow?
>throw it out and get a new one in Grape, Cherry, or Orange flavor!

>>738005630
>Steam Machine will launch with support for literally 45,000 more games than PS5
So, support for 45,000 games?

>>738005772
you could've at least posted a good game in support of your point

>>738006327
Sorry you don't like manly things. Should I post a female character from FFXIV to placate you?

>>738006371
>football
>manly
it's the gayest sport there is

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>>738006448
Sorry you're not manly.

>>738006595
Sorry you got AIDs

>>738005180
>SteamOS is available
but it's not
even earlier in the thread i wondered what were to happen if someone pozzed Windows on the Steam Machine, therefor formatting the drive, therefor probably losing the recovery partition >737994053

>>738007057
>but it's not
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/65B4-2AA3-5F37-4227

>>738007579
NTA but you should not install that as your desktop OS, wait for Machine's steamOS image

Console games always perform above a PC with the same specs
If the Gabecube cant even match a old console its not worth the money

>>738005671
>why are my biggest crushes these jewish russian looking women

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>Valve does something
>Everyone bashes Valve online
>Time passes, everyone forgets
>Shills start shilling Valve
>Everyone loves Valve online
>Valve does something
We have come full circle once more

>>738007715
Yeah I'm not a retarded valvecuck if I wanted a gaming OS I'd just use bazzite but most of the tech illiterate retards will only use something with valve's logo on it

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>>737982126
Nine Hundred and Ninety Nine US Dollars

>>738007809
Even bazzite you shouldn't bother with unless you're on AMD/AMD

>>738007739
>low rent Takaojeet
>hates Valve
SHOCKING

>>738006595
You could've posted Tom Brady instead of that twink.

>>738007848
i hope the next moneys i will spend will go straight to yacht #8. no detours just straight there. cause i'm straight and a straight shooter too, no BS ergo no BS detour delivery

>>737999141
He knows deep down it's not ok, that's why the valvedroᥒe gets defensive instinctively
His pride as a fanboy is on the line here, being a man and admitting that he was silly for falling for gaben memes 15 years ago would be too hard on his fragile ego

>>738008095
I don't truck with no cheaters.

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>>738008060
>kills undead
>kills demon scum
>kills dracula
>kills kikes
>kills valve drones
>kills pedo neets
Aqua keeps delivering after all these years

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>>738008225
She's a sad knockoff of best girl Takao.

>>738008225
>kills pedo neets
Kazuma is still alive tho?!

I hope this shit isn't over a grand, my expectations are tempered I'll still play modded Skyrim on my desktop but It would be nice to have something for 3D indie games and AAA games from 2018 and older on the go.

>>738008554
Steam Machine (2TB) + Steam Controller - $999

>>738008225
your derangement is so bad that it's having the opposite effect actually

>>738008537
Cuz he keeps getting revived by Aqua

>>737982126
>$800 for a PC weaker than a PS5 from 2020.
BAHAHAHOOEY
1k MINIMUM nigga, it was only 800 minimum before the delay

>>738008596
lol delusional, 1k for the lowest version and no controller included for any of them

>>738009038
nah, they will keep waiting if they have to but they will not go above $1000 on it

>wanted to put a new pc together when zen 4 dropped
>board prices seemed too insane at the time
>2026
>ram prices are now far above anything else
>board prices still suck
AM4 my beloved hopefully you can cope with my 5070ti

this discourse is so funny when you can go pick up a used sandy bridge system for next to nothing and it'll run all the worthwhile PC games

>$800 for a miniPC that plays 90% of Steam games right out of the box
Sounds like a good deal to me
>NOOO BUT IT DOESN'T DO ULTRA HIGH MAX BLAST PENIS PROCESSING WITH 9000 FPS AND OVERCLOCKED BLIMBO BLAMBLES!!
Normalfags don't care about any of that you gay retards.