You'regoing toLOVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Add bloat>No one likes it>Promise to remove it later>>>>>>"WE'RE SO BACK BROS"You're not gonna fall for it are you anon?
No, I'll keep using win 10
>>737995414I've already switched to Linux and never going back
>>737995414>Shit the bed so bad, the nerdy faggot linux takes over gaming>Tries to fix bare minimum so people don't leave, claim you are a heroNo Microsoft, you had your chance.
when W10 LTSC stops security updates in 2032 I guess it's finally time to install Gentoo.
>>737995740Enjoy not playing anything.
>>737995740Same
>>737995838chang doesnt seem to have any issue
>>737995838Linuxfags don't play games they just come here to brag about using linux
>>737995838>Doesn't know what proton is>Doesn't know steam deck plays like 90% of all steam games and getting better daily>Doesn't know linux is what's in the steam machine, and steam os ran windows games better than windows, causing all of this, hence them referencing steamOS
>>737995740SHITnux can't play anything right plus you need to spend DAYS setting everything up and configuring just to get some random game to workStick with Microsoft and Windows retard.
>>737995414yellow socially anxious wouldn't let her friends use windows
>>737995914why do you lie? I used linux I know how bad it is.
>>737995928>Thinks every video showing footage of cyberpunk on steam deck was fake news to shill Linux, a free osLol
>>737995928What the fuck are you on about? He's 100% accurate. Just because you used Ubuntu once doesn't mean you know shit about Linux
>737995928Skill issue
>>737996136Compooter bees racis n shieet, makin a nigger feel dumb n shieet
>>737995917crybaby got filtered
>Boost gaming performance to SteamOS levelsMan what a weird thing to read.Going from the days of being mindblown by STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl actually having a working skybox on wine.
>>737996030I don't give a shit about cyberpunk though, it's a shit game.>>737996126I used linux for over 3 years and a couple of different distros as well. You are peddling your lies to the wrong crowd.
>>737996136Steam os actually makes it pretty painless.Regular Linux is also not bad with flatpak now And if you count proton making exe generally work, windows basically has no appeal now.
>>737995414>Logo is a bleeding pair of orange buttcheeks
>>737996231>>737996238you can't play games on linux lolstop talkign retards
>>737995740same
>>737996337keep crying ubuntu poster, surely someone will believe that you know how to use a pc lmao
>>737996337Dumbfuck pubehead
>>737995649I might if they remove the TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot requirements.
>>737996337>Pretending steam deck doesn't exist >Acting ignorant of the fact its linuxI probably beat more on Linux than windows now ngl
>>737996393not happening, they make money off OEM licensing from new devices. doubt they'd just grandfather a bunch of old hardware unless they made a really shitty way to license it.
>>737995414>abusive husband: the OS
>>737995649AI slop is more soulful than redditfrogs.
>>737995838I'm playing most deadlock and overwatch on cachyos with custom compiled kernel. It was fun setting up and completely painless. Every single metric beats windows. Frametimes, framerate, audio latency, network interpolation, mouse polling rate. It unironically works great out of the box and works perfectly with a few launch commands and tweaking. Can't say the same for windows.
>>737996442>MUH OEMHas nothing to do with secureboot or TPM you fucking retard.
>>737996393Bruh. TPM can be bypassed with rufus. And secure boot can be disabled. Why are you like this?
>>737996337What's this buddy???https://youtu.be/oiuRMM9dlp4?>>737996276Let me guess, you ONLY play epic launcher stuff with highly invasive drm and anti cheat that actively REFUSES to work with Linux??Because thats what you guys always say.
>>737995740Same. It's been a joy now
>>737996469>Get windows>Spend 5 minutes running through the uninstaller menu>Get shartnux>Spend 5 hours learning stupid bullshit and figuring out what commands to runyeah nah
>>737995414win11 ltsc already does this
>>737996580Just download a clean steam os install.Steam deck for example runs games out the box under 5 minutes of you sign in and download fast enough.
>>737996564thank you for admitting Linux can't play all games like Windows can you fucking retardalso that's running like absolute shit
>>737996490it does and you know it, tpm standards are enforced on newer devices via newer hardware. secure boot wont ever leave and with the new ARM devices bootloaders are locked. why would microsoft lift those requirements now when it keeps you in their ecosystem? If anything their next version will probably demand some about of NPU just so you can buy the next licensed product, dummy.
>>737995921Purple bookworm would have already been persuading her friends to switch to Linux
>>737996458seethe
>>737996636Never said it runs LITERALLY every, but the stuff it can't run is minimal, and often NOT because steam didn't try, but because the other side refuses to allow it.Outside that absolutely specific scenario, the examples are few and far between.
>>737996636>Linux can't play all games like WindowsNeither can Windows. Any game 5 years old or older is more likely to run on Linux than on Windows.>also that's running like absolute shitDid you time travel from 2015?
>>737995649It's the most streamline, braindead OS to use.
wayland already drove me back to windows (11 pro retail) THO
>>737995838I have objectively better compatibility. Reminder most DX9 games are broken on Hindus 11 and you've been coping with a crippled, inferior DXVK to run them.
>>737996682azure speedy would never even consider touching a computer or it might turn her into an egghead (secretly spends hours looking up/writing fanfics)pale nimbus would hire someone else to do itorange pear would have no idea what everyone is even talking aboutpink pink would have six windows playing tiktok brainrot constantly and dandy's world on a second monitor
>>737996735Lmao what the fuck are you even talking about retard? I've never heard this cope before. I play old games on windows all the time
>>737996743Ten years ago I'd agree.Now?!Proton been putting in insane work, and improves every day.
>>737996831My sample size is whatever number of games I checked on PCGamingWiki with a wall of text required to run them while on Linux they just worked.
>>737995414Why quoting Yellow Quiet?
>>737995414Plan does not include >Nuke IndiaWorthless
>>737996818Accurate and funny
>>737995838Then why does MS chose it as a benchmark, retard?
>>737996580you can literally just install it and use gamemoderun as launch command in steam and still get as good if not better performance than current windowsI have assburgers and enjoy the tinkering part somewhat, but it's far from mandatory at this point. seems to me like you're scared of messing up your computer, which is leads me to believe you're either female or think like one.
>>737996393no thats not gonna happen which is why we should remain on the path because the sooner Microshit loses control over the pc industry the better for us. You really think Mircosoft is going to relinquish its iron control over your computer like that? its bad enough I found out how onedrive really works and it makes me glad I never fucking enabled it or plan on using it.
>>737996580>I am a clueless retard with old man tier neuroplasticity that thought Linux would be a 1 to 1 copy of bad habits jeetdows taught me
>make bad thing>you complain>fix bad thing>you complainand you guys wonder why you are never happy
>>737996393W11 never did need those if you use the meme LTSC version
>>737998065more like some retards should be left to die in the street they shit in, there's no help you can give them until they help themselves
>>737998065>>fix bad thingMore like deliver a promise that you'll totally fix it in the future, pinky promise, now consume next product.
Is there anything more pathetic than a multigorillion company just going "f-fuck, come back guys! COME BACK!!"
I'd rather just install steamos and be done with it
When are they going to do something about the fucking worst UI ever inflicted on anyone?
The year of the Linux desktop is NOW!
A triumphant return to form for Microsoft. I'm on a K2 beta and I'm having a blast!
>>737998065They only fixed bad thing BECAUSE people left >>737996456 was right, this whole thing was BASICALLY >Windows involves slop and gay shit>NO HONEY NO IT HURTS!!>Windows tries to force tablet and AI Cortana and other crap>I can't do this anymore!!!>Gamers meet nerdy guy from high school, now jacked, chad, better than windows ever was.>Gamers get serious with proton linux>Windows suddenly stops drinking, saying he can change>Windows claiming to work so hard to do bare minimum Yeah no wonder gamers left lol.
>windows is le bad!it werks on my machine>but copilo-it werks on my machine>but the bloa-it werks on my machine>but the spywaIT WERKS ON MY MACHINE
>>737998273There'll be. They will realise they can't have the cake and eat it too and it will be funny to see damage control.
>>737996136Start -> Discover -> search browser name -> install browser of choice
>>737998385Is this literally your standard???I'm sure ransomware that demands pictures of my butthole ALSO "works on my machine".
>>737998423>Start -> Discover -> search browser name -> install browser of choicewhat is this shit, sounds like a tranny os
>>737998474It's called a better and higher trust method of software delivery, winjeet
>>737998474>brings up trannies out of no whereywnbaw, anon
It says steamos isn't supposed to be a desktop replacement, oh well
>>737998505good
I use an ntlited education edition of Win11 and I don't see any AI bloat. Just thought you'd all like to know. Thanks for asking and looking.
>>737996580remember, anyone who shills troonix to you don't have a real job so they have to justify thousands of hours tinkertrannying it so they can brag "work on my machine" and their existence by making troonix their personality
>>737995649such is the power of established brand. See those people shitposting in marathon thread? Let bungie announce destiny remake or 3 or something and they will fill the catalog with "SONY WON" or "BUNGIE IS SAVED"
playing on windows is a litmus test at this point>>737998385you failed the test
>>737995414>You're not calling me Microslop anymore, aren't ya now?Oh look! Marketing!
>>737998574Sar use desi product or you are hijra and earnings no cowdung
>>737998574>remember, anyone who shills pc to you don't have a real job so they have to justify thousands of hours tinkertrannying it so they can brag "work on my machine" and their existence by making pc gaming their personalitythis is just repackaged consolecuck cope
>>737998867If you aren't paying me, I'm not fucking relearning the whole operation system
>>737998952no ones forcing you to move jamboy, keep wallowing in your shit
>>737998952You don't have to. If you aren't doing other shit on computer anyway besides games and web, its hardly noticable switching to steam os
>>737998952>i don't understand the concept of long term thinking and low time preference
>>737995414so what does windows 11 add at all then?
i will use that OS if, and only if, you can turn off compositing. since every nudev has a religious aversion to being able to disable compositing, i will never use that OS.
>>737999016>using buzzwords to try sounding smart both are jeeted you tranny
>>737995414This another vibe-coded, understand barely functional mishmash by AI prompting jeets, version or is this an actual attempt at doing something that isn't retarded?
>>737996580the irony of this post is so fucking funnyit takes 10 minutes AT MOST to set up cachyos, while windows would be "setting things up for you", I was already in steam downloading games lol
>>737998385shut up nigger
>>737998952Are you American? They're the only people I know that take pride in ignorance.
>>737998952Exactly, that's why I'm done with Windows. Pasting commands on powershell for basic settings? Eat my ass.
>>737998065>>fix bad thing>falling for it
>>737999079>both are jeeted you trannyi'm going to preemptively debunk that, if you don't mind
>>737999207>Eat my entire ass. The whole thing.Jason Thor Hall has a point for onceWindow's peaked at 7, went downhill with shit absolutely nobody fucking wanted for almost 2 decades.
>>737999402das rite
>>737998574people shill linux because it changes your outlook on software and computerswincucks just hate everything as a whole because their operating system and all the software they install on it is outwardly hostile to them and they need to constantly be on guardfree software is conceptually much cooler
>>737999617sounds like noot noot talk to me
>>737996796>Hindus 11holy kek
>>737995414i refuse to use windows again, not going to leave my entire life in the hands of a bunch of jeets, i've seen firsthand how completely computer illiterate they are
>>737995414Just wait until people realise you can get the performance of SteamOS without the bloat, spyware and adware of Windows by simply NOT USING FUCKING WINDOWS.Jeets are so fucking incompetent they've pushed normies to linux.Just think on that for a minute.
>>737996796>Hindus 11
>>737995414cool, windows is already the only viable os for gaming so anything that makes it better is good news
>>737995890Linux is a great OS to fall back on especially for older PC's and Laptops and also for the more mature person who doesn't play gaymes. To be honest you might as well have dual boot OS's that fit your needs. If anons think Windoze isn't suitable for their 16 hour gayming sessions then use Steam OS. But you are going to be needing that OS for all the times you are not also glued to your phone. So, Linux or Windoze or maybe you have a Chromebook and use that or use something like Bluestacks to run Android on a PC or laptop.
>>737999749Had this happen to my old desktop, couldnt reset cmos so i had to pull out the cpu just the force the mobo into setup mode so i could boot shit again. I dont even know how the fuck it managed to lock my bios like that with a windows update.
>>737999993>who doesn't play games>/v>>>/g
>>737996136Linux is down to getting used to the different way of doing things. I have not used Linux in a long time tho (10 years) so probably easier than it was.
>>738000103Ironically /g/ might have more anons who play games than /v/ does ;)
>>737995914Using Proton reminded me a lot of using a really shitty outdated emulator like Project 64. Yeah it plays a lot of stuff just fine but once you go outside the safe zone it's a shit show and even some games that reportedly work just fine actually have a lot of issues but nobody played far enough or just wasn't knowledgeable a lot to spot them. I'm sure it'll be great some day, maybe, but in the here and now it's not good enough.
>>737995914>Launch Resident Evil 0>Entire game becomes purple.No
>>737995414loonixtroons are really scared about this huh
>>738001558>troonsbut enough about microsoft
Sorry but I am on K1 LTS and not planning to switch until 2032
>>737995740Just be sure not to build anything blindly from GIT.
>>738001921https://www.cve.org/CVERecord/SearchResults?query=windows+10
>>738001921a literal nonissuedon't wincucks cry that you need to sudo installations and updates?
>>738001921>install algif_aead /bin/false>problem goneat least read the article you're trying to fearmonger with
>>737998385>but the spywa>IT WERKS ON MY MACHINEyeah that's the entire issue
>>738000260Considering what it set out to do and how much progress it made, its fantastic.Keep in mind, they wanted a layer to (ideally) make ALL game, never designed for linux, run on Linux. And they got maybe 90% there.I don't know think people understand even how INSANE that idea is, like if I told you this 10 years ago you would of called me an insane pipedream faggot.But now it's like 90% working??? Yeah, I'm not even upset. It essentially did something software equivalent of moving mountains.>>738000361One, it Is running, and 2, i said 90%Serious sam classic first encounter also had issues last I checked, but revolution serious sam was ok? As were the hd encounters.But considering so many of these were LITERALLY NEVER designed for linux, but still work, this to me is like seeing jesus Christ resurrect, but complaining he has holes in his hands still.
>>737995414i have not updated windows 11 since last summer
>>737996393DO you think they will remove any control they have over you? Man... I have a bridge to sell you.
>>737995414You can turn all that stuff of already though? I've never seen ai slop, ads, notifications, or any other bloat.
>>738004082same never seen an ad where are they supposed to be?
>>737995414I'm going to love it... if it's good.Deliver first, then we'll see.
>>738000095 Windows update locking your BIOS is peak 2026 clown world.Had something similar after a “firmware update” got shoved through Windows Update. Suddenly TPM flags changed, Secure Boot flipped, and my board decided I was some kind of intruder on my own machine. Love how the OS now thinks it’s your landlord.Forcing setup by yanking the CPU is absolute caveman tech but honestly respect. At this point we’re one bad cumulative update away from needing to short pins with a screwdriver while chanting Ballmer quotes.“Just works” btw.
>>738000095Shit like this is one of the reasons I made sure my current mobo had a quick-flash option accessible on it, so I can just factory reset everything without opening up my PC. Also good practice in general to have a means out of a fucked up UEFI flash.
>>738004308i ran out of options, the jumper the clear cmos didnt work, removing the battery didnt work neither did draining the caps. it was an x470 with no bios flashback so it was pretty much the only thing i could think to do. in hindsight, maybe removing one of the ram sticks would have accomplished it and i only did all of these steps after removing the hard drives the update was that malicious.
video games?
>>737995414So its just Iot LTSC?
>>738001921Whoopdedoo. I just need to wait for the next update cycle and that problem will be gone.
>>738004764ask your dad
>>738004604Didn't you read? they're trying to boost gaming performance to SteamOS levels, not just remove a bunch of applications and call it quits.Supposedly.
>>737995414No need to we all love Windows already. No one seriously uses Linux on a device that he doesn't use for work / programming
>>737995838bro i'm playing 2077 right now
>>738004954objectively wrong
>>738005038Why do chinks hate Linux?
>>738005456Freedom is antithetical to Chinese.
>>738005038Now how many of those are not Steam Decks?
>>738005724three quarters actually, misread that
>>737995414Still going to be trash. I will say this with 100% seriousness: Windows will never be worth using again unless they straight up delete all the code since 8, go back to Win7, and begin updating it for current hardware and APIs.
>>737998065>fix bad thingLOOOOOOOLAHAHAHAif you think they're going to be fixing anything you are too young to be posting anything about Microsoftthese fuckers have always painted over problems and hoped for consumer hardware to cover their assthey don't fix a god damn thing, and they can't anyway because all the white men have left their company
>>737995740Thats normal. Once you trooning theres no way back.
Imagine how bad things must be behind the scenes for this decision to even be approved at MS.
>>737995414>They actually namedropped SteamOS as their benchmark for good performanceFUCKING LMAO!
so is linux capable of running the adobe software suite yet or is that still too difficult for these monkey coders to implement
>>738006882are you retarded? linux not having native versions is a fault of adobe
>>738006882retard
>>738006945if you can create proton to play windows video games you can create something to make the adobe suite work. It's up to linuxtroons to do this, otherwise there would be no proton and no gaming on linux. Nobody's going to go out their way and provide official linux builds
>>737995740Real questiom how annoying is the whole process? Is a hassle getting shit to run and drivers to work?
>>738006882have the monkeys at adobe learned how to make their software work without total root access?
>>737995838>implying /v/ plays games
>>738007067retard
>>738007067proton is replacing windows APIs, the information about what those do is already out in the openwith adobe shit you have to interface directly and fucking guess what you have to do
>>738007203the open source community has plenty of time and resources to figure it out. Making adobe suite work on linux is the stepping stone to the year and age of widespread linux adoption
Linux users have AMD cards (they're brown/poor)
>>738005456Because the Chinese get windows without US government spyware and have no use for linux
>>737995414>mlp referenceStay in your containment board.
>>738007274Steam deck buyers are poor now???
>>737995414How is this going to improve my gooning?
>>738007346why were you able to recognize this reference?
>>738007254nigger, they're not going to work for adobe for freeadobe needs to put in the fucking work or at least make it easier and open source as much as they can so people arent' connecting wires in total darkness
>>738007449this is exactly why anyone with an actual job can't use linux
>>738007449open source devs already work for free for the private sector, big companies use foss all the time
>>737996393You dumb niggers don't even realize what these two do.
>>738007449I really hope this is just shill logic, because if you legit think nobody does coding for free, this is either the brownest brown mindset ever , or it's complete ignorance. Open source software. Google it.
>>738007430To know your enemy, you have to become your enemy.
>>738000361Holy fucking shit, i can't remember which obscure proton i had to download to make Resident Evil 0 work but it works now flawlessly without any visual glitch but FUCK ME, this was the one game that almost made me reconsider my switch to Steam OS
>>738007531just dual boot windows then, you can minimise its use>>738007538only cuck licenses
If Linus Sebastian says Linux is good, so it is. End of argument.
>>738007654yes, only cucks use licenses where you can just steal code without giving anything back
>>738007713>only cuck licensesthat doesn't affect anything i said>>738007707>Resident Evil 0the higher the weeb level, the harder it is to get to run on average
>>737995414They just released they’re adding AI to the fucking clock app. No lie, search it. Steve Jobs was right, windows users have no taste or culture.
>>738007723When did he finally get over his "Every Linux thing I touch just breaks on me" phase?
>>738007814it doesyou're not working for free when it comes to the gpl license, you give something with the expectation that whoever uses your work to do something else also gives something back with their own contributions
>>738007750>Its stealing to use something given freelyThe izzat focused mind is truly horrifying. This idea of common good is why America, Europe, and not south asia are generally high trust societies btw.
>>738007957goalpost moving of the highest order
>>738007975it's not given freelyit's given with the legal stipulation that you're not going to fucking take it and turn it closed source, any modifications and contributions to it also must be free
>>737995414Windows 11 as it is right now is still better than Linux. People are just sperging out because Windows is going downhill, while Linux is improving and to an idiot trends are easier to identify than it is to quantify the current quality of something. So it would be nice if Microsoft could stop being retarded and stop shitting up everything.
>>737996796Works on my machine.
>>738007084>Real questiom how annoying is the whole process?In current day the beginner friendly distros are extremely slick and easy to set up. Ive used both Cachyos and Fedora KDE and they were both smooth sailing, never really had a single issue on either one. The setup is almost entirely automated now. If you have an AMD card then everything will be good to go right out of the box, if you have Nvidia theres like one extra hoop of adding whatever repo has the proprietary driver. But even then things are getting better on Nvidia, especially as of the 595 driver that released recently. With KDE, HDR just works, VRR just works. Hell, im playing Wo Longs janky ass PC port right now and my linux machine is dealing with it much better than my friends windows machine is.
>>738007826>It is currently 5:45What? No it isn't, it's literally noon.>You're right to be skeptical! It actually is 12:00 right now
>>737998273>is there anything more pathetic than somebody really successful who is selling stuffEverybody less successful?
>>738007975he's talking about taking permissively-licensed code and making your version of it proprietary
>>738008147So does malware, what's your point?
>>738008212Ahh, my bad, I thought he was saying using open source code IS theft at all
>>738006945>>738007124>>738007020>it's okay that it doesn't work because we found an excuse as to why it's not our fault That's one of those open source-isms that's really obnoxious and one of the reasons why nothing gets done until a big company (e.g. Valve) comes in and swings their dicks around. No retards, if something doesn't run on your thing, but runs somewhere else then that means that your thing is worse.
you have to understand that microsoft isn't an OS company anymore. their main products are web hosting and AI.
>>738008282quite. windows is shit because it doesn't support Logic Pro.
>>738008347it's true, from microshaft's pov everything is functioning as intended
modding on linux it's always a pain in the ass with dll and shit
>>738008282you're such a fucking idiotit runs somewhere else because whoever made it made it work theredo you think that buying a computer compels whoever sold it to you to hook your house up to an electrical grid
>>738004210In a part of the start menu, a tab that you can remove right when you first boot the S.O.
>>738008347Pretty much this. Windows is essentially a free OS, they dont make any money from any of the consumer base that uses it. Its the smallest revenue sector at MS these days. Cant imagine that they really give much a fuck about it at this point, hence why its all jeet and AI coded now. They only care about keeping their businesscuck userbase somewhat happy. By their own estimation, they are 2 years behind steamos in performance using the same hardware. Does anyone seriously think that MS is going to invest in YEARS of work just to satisfy a userbase that they dont make any money from? I seriously doubt it.
>>738008282using win 11 in any really technical environment can't happen without heavy it management, in my job i've seen win updates totally fuck the proprietary software widgets you use to run analytical/engineering equipment. linux isn't any better at this, but at least it's easy to rollback
>>738008090>Linux is improvingIt's actually getting way worse by forcing SystemDick and Age verification
it will get worse
>>738007713>just dual boot windows thenwindows will override and fuck up the bootloader every time
>>737995414It's going to take 20 years to undo the damage the jeet CEO and outsourcing to India have done to Microslop. He coasted by on cloud service profits that were set up by previous CEOs. All of his decisions have been massive expensive mistakes that have destroyed the reputation of the company.
>>738008835>Windows and everything related to it makes less money than JUST Linkedin.absolutely grim
>>737996136>open terminal>sudo pacman -S firefox>press enteror use Discovery, most distros come with it, it's absolutely retard proof
>>738009348>firefoxlmfaowhy are linux users such faggots manjust use google chrome like literally 99% of the population does
>>738009419Enjoy your manifest v3.
>>737995838It's not 2013 anymore.
>>737995838zoomers are so broken they think fortnite and lol are the only games.grim.
>>738009419have the fixed the long-standing problem where tabs become unusably small if you have quite a few open?
>>737995414"Hello ChatGPT saar, please take Windows 11 source code and add many performances, saar."
>>737996136>saved the video thumbnail instead of the videoYour IQ is two digits.
>>738009419>sudo pacman -S google-chrome
>>738008689Call me when the Linux kernel somehow becomes unforkable and then every Linux distribution releases and somehow forces people to install an update that makes the system not work until the user provides a picture of a state-issued ID to some external verification service.>but muh slippery slopeNah. Either I have to prove my age to some external entity or I don't. Intrusive age verification can't feasibly be forced on an open-source operating system unless some bullshit is enforced at the hardware level, and that's not even a concern in the age of nobody being able to buy new hardware in the first place.
>>738008916install them on separate drives and make sure windows can't see anything linux related
>>737995414Where's K1?
>>738009419you people are cattle
>>738009419...You've made being a thrall to tech corporations a point of virtue against idpol? You will live out your life feeling like you're right on the cusp of realizing something, and just as you get close, it's already over. Repent and inquire within, culture warrior beyond compare.
>>738010842literally not a problem if you just use workarounds to fix it.
>>738011114Ok but why? You stick with a browser that needs fixing to, what, own the imaginary libs?
>>738011114>Yes they're trying to fuck me in the ass but I can just deal with it okay???
>>738011114>Just jump through a bunch of hoops so you can continue taking it up the ass from google!i hope you understand how you sound, you absolute fucking nigger cattle. ill just use software that actually respects my decisions
>>737995838Most games that are unplayable on linux have Win11-levels of slop and bloat themselves. They won't be missed.
>>737995414bloody luddite benchod chud microsaar betraying ai JUGGERNAUT and INDIA ALLY nvidea unacceptable death upon their family
Microsoft is 80% Indian at this point. Windows has been getting gradually worse for over a decade but it's in freefall now
>>738011114>just close your eyes and you won't notice the smell!
>>737995649fall for it? anon these people aren't even paid!
>every feature this version has is what the basic should have been in the first placeamazing
>>737995838>>737995917youth is too often synonymous with ignorance...
>>737995414The japs are calling it "Windows Ass"K2 = ketsu
>>738006349I've had literally 1 minor issues on patch day for helldivers that was fixed by switching one option in a menu on steam.anyone who tells you that CachyOS is bad for gaming is lying straight up
>>738011279>>738011309>Indian hatred out of nowhereWe have mindbroken you.
>noooo please die so that i can declare victory now that theres no one to compete with me in the x86 os market noooooo dont get better and competitive with meeeeeIt's especially funny to see how people are cheering for a monopoly in the x86 world given how bad the x86 world was the last time there was a monopoly tick-tocking away before their competitor started to get competitive again.Or how currently there is a monopoly on the GPU's where you are unable to get a value offering thanks to there being no real competition as the competitor's CEO is literally blood related to the CEO of the monopoly.But sure, keep cheering for Windows to fail. It's not like it'll ever go away thanks to how strong of a foothold Windows NT have built in the 90's and 2000's.
>>737998587Obsessed.
>>738011730Go ahead and tell us who exactly is competing with Microsoft in the OS market>inb4 Linux
>>738011661No people just know what your kind does. Just like jews scam with the law, Chinese scam with the economy, Indians scam by just fucking lying about everything all the time and pretending they know things
too late, i'm already buying the steam machine
>>738011797Linux, yes. What, you think listing the two competitors invalidates them? You are braindead.
>>738011896Go ahead and tell me what company owns Linux thenWho is going to be in power if Linux becomes a "monopoly"
>>738011797>inb4 LinuxSee, Linuxfags are delusional and they think they're competing with Windows, which is why they keep circlejerking about Windows collapsing as that would be the only way they could win this competition.Microsoft doesn't care, and the reason they've been readying up for a year for the K2 project is because their real customers, which are enterprise users, have been getting more and more weary of Win11's issues Microsoft was worried about.Gamers are delusional if they think they matter in any way on the market. Steam Hardware surveys only seem impressive in a vacuum, because if you saw the actual numbers behind them you'd realize the amount of Steam gamers that participate in this survey don't even account for 1% of the global Windows user base. And for the last five years of Windows 11 being on the market it was gamers constantly pushing this circlejerk of "Windows is literally over, switch to Linux NOW". No wonder Microsoft doesn't see Linux as a competitor.Microsoft isn't afraid of Linux, or Valve, or SteamOS. Well, the Windows division at least, they know NT is irreplaceable. Xbox is, but Xbox has bigger issues than that.
>>738011896>thinking he has to defend windows marketshare from linux which is only a few % of users and is fucking FREEive met microsofts strongest soldier, i hope theyre paying you saar
windows is perfectly fine, you can literally turn off telemetry, strip the bloat, and go on with your life. all the linuxfags in this thread are pretending like they didn’t boot up their first distro right after watching pewdiepie install it on camera, its embarrassing
>>738011730>Saar pleas don't abandon the OS with 90% market share, do you want to create a monopoly?
>>738011263>reheated sour grapes cope #86423
I'm not even sure when things started REALLY tumbling down. Probably 2022-ish? That's more or less when new Windows features started going from invasive spyware to outright dysfunctional shitware.
>>738012025shut up bloody benchod bitchLinux becoming monopolies is bad okay??? Microsoft number 1
>>738012164If Windows was truly this bad, this 90% would've belonged to Linux long ago.Except no matter how much you astroturf it, anyone with a brain will know that no matter how bad Win11 has gotten, Linux is way, waaaaay worse, to the point where even RHEL isn't considered as an alternative despite it having Red Hat as the entity to sue in case shit goes sideways.Also I'm Polish, so keep thinking that everyone that disagrees with (You) is literally Indian just because anyone giving any benefit of a doubt to anything related in any way to a company ran by jeets apparently has to be a jeet himself. Which, by the way, is the exact type of black-and-white tribe war thinking bullshit one would expect out of these dalits.
>>738012386To po chuja płaczesz że się świat skończy jak windoza się posypie skoro linuks taki zły i nie dorasta mu do pięt? Apage, marketerze
>>738012164how can Linux even become a monopoly when it's completely decentralized and every porch monkey can have their own distro with their own set of autistic gimmicks and rules
whenever youre feeling down bros, just remember - at least you arent a part of the microsoft defense force that thinks they need to protect a trillion dollar company from the linux boogeyman LMAO. absolutely fucking pathetic
>>737999402Almost a pity ferretfucker was so retarded. If he'd said that about Microslop instead of SKG, he wouldn't have imploded as disastrously as he did.He probably still would've fallen into obscurity, only that it would've been a slow collapse rather than a full-blown implosion.
>>738005456They use Android-based OSs, passed off as "China-made", like HarmonyOS. So they DO use linux, passed off as mystery meat.
>>738006882If you're still using ANYTHING from Adobe, and by extension, burning piles of money monthly, you're seriously retarded. Linux has access to alternatives that can do everything their "suites" can do, and better.Not to mention that ADobe could destroy everything you depend on, on a whim (Just ask the people that still used Flash/Animate to make stuff).
>the "just use gimp lmao" retard still existsthe absolute state of linux cucks
>>738013415I know this is a bait post down to the impeccable reddit spacing, but someone might think you're being genuine so let me answer real quick>If you're still using ANYTHING from Adobe, and by extension, burning piles of money monthlynobody other than corpos actually buys adobe suite subscriptions, everyone pirates what they need>Linux has access to alternatives that can do everything their "suites" can do, and better.Thank you for your interest in this position at our company! Unfortunately "GIMP" and "DaVinci Resolve" are not suitable alternatives for our business needs and long established design processes. We wish you well in your pursuit of employment.
>>738013415(You) have never used Darktable.
hold on saar we're fixing the systemupdation will be ready soon saar, pleas wait
It's simple— support two versions of Windows. Windows 11 Complete for de maykeengs of de slop saar, and Windows 11 S(wift) as a consumer version of IoT LTSC (without the LTSC).
>>738012730Ja nie płaczę bo to się nigdy nie stanie, tylko ułomki które myślą że są cool bo używają pingwina mają nadzieję że się tak stanie bo potem będą mieli swój świętojebliwy Rok Linuksa™.Oczywiście potem będziecie srać pod siebie że normictwo wypierdalać i że windowsiarze wam świętego Linuksa zasrali, bo jako kolektyw jesteście chorzy psychicznie i nigdy wam się nie dogodzi, sami kurwa nie wiecie czego chcecie xD>>738013006>2015>Linuxfags are so desperate they need to bring out archival material to prove they're winningYou're always so cute to watch when you do this
>>737996743>be linux user, lots of tools that automate every super user action you could possibly imagine, with tools to revert if you somehow manage to get the 3% failure rate>be windows user, get fucked constantly because you dont want to learn anything else
>>738015165>>2015and the telemetry has only increased since then, whats your point retard lmao>inb4 muh debloat, muh LTSC, muh disable telemetry (you cant)yes keep jumping through more and more hoops, im sure M$ fat dick fits snugly in your ass by now faggot polack
>>738015403>be windows user>have everything (You) implied is Linux exclusiveReminder that by blatantly lying to people you'll only make people despise Linux and never touch it. Which would be what you want, depending on which bipolar personality (You) are on now.
>>738015403saar please run sfc /scannow
>>737996393I don't know what these are or why they're bad.
>>738016147They are hardware-level backdoors for mossad and NSA. Backdoors are bad m'kay. Unless you're a faggot and like it up your backdoor without permission
>>737995740People always brag about how great Linux is, but never talk about the pain in the ass that is configuring everything or shit breaking for no reason. The community is always full of assholes gatekeeping or outdated solutions.
>>738007723>Do one month Linux challenge>Mar 7, 2026 >No follow-up video as of today
>>738000106Leagues easier. I got back into using mint when windows 11 released and it was a very smooth transition.
>>738016243That told me fuck all>They are hardware-level backdoors for mossad and NSA.Okay, I can say they're just about anything without elaborating further.
>>738016406>but never talk about the pain in the ass that is configuring everything or shit breaking for no reason.That's because things rarely break on modern distros. The only time you can fuck yourself is if you're running arch, but in other tailored distros like mint or SteamOS things run as intended.
>>738016476>do a Linux challenge>go in blind as an oblivious retard (exactly the type of person that would be the target of Linux groomers)>end up having retarded issues caused by Linux>Linux groomers say that he's purposefully misrepresenting Linux by using the wrong distro and that he doesn't know how to solve every Linux issue by heart>attempts it again>Linux groomers sperg out on the announcement alone because "he's doing it wrong" againAs much I hate that Canuck, his Linux challenge perfectly highlighted how the Linux community will never allow for Linux to go mainstream while shitting up the entire Internet while trying to do so. The only reason Torvalds didn't quit kernel development was because 99% of it's users aren't gayming faggots that feel entitled to everything all the time and throw a hissy fit the moment something isn't as perfect as they imagined it.
>>738016764Except that his problems weren't caused by going in blind.He was LARPing as someone who knew just enough about Linux in order to be dangerous, while also being apparently stupid enough to just skip past warnings without reading them.The infamous "PopOS desktop deinstallation" only happened because he allegedly knew the commands for using apt without actually knowing how to use apt, so he didn't update his package manager before installing a new package and fucked his dependencies (which the package manager warned him not to do, and which he explicitly bypassed).It's such a specific problem affecting a specific iso of a specific distro that he may have just reproduced a bug he found beforehand for clicks.
>>737996393TPM is harmless but secure boot is very gay. Secure boot caused me to have bluescreens because I replaced an SSD
>>738016764>using "groomer" in the context of computer softwareWoman-tier histrionics.
>>737995414As someone who is still a semi-newfag who has dabbled with different Linux distros for a couple years I will choose YOUR Linux distro right now.>I want the best gamer distro and something that goes fast and comes with a bunch of bells and whistles.Cachy OS (and if you have newer high end hardware choose BTRFS as your file format and Limine as your bootloader)>I want to actually have privacy and freedumb and be anti-corporate and anti-WOKE even if I will have to put serious effort into learning and fixing things myself and might miss out on games.Artix Linux (Not Arch, Artix. Devuan might be a decent alternative but try Artix first)>I don't give a shit about the best performance and I don't care about politics or being anti-woke. Windows just keeps fucking up for me and I just want something that just worksMint (Zorin is also good but try Mint first).>Anti-recommendsBazzite. It seems good but it will keep you helpless and will likely screw you over in the long run. One of the creators who did over half the work themselves was also kicked off the project for (rightfully) calling out some tranny who pushed out an update that broke something without testing it first. FYI trannies are just everywhere in tech especially ultra autistic stuff like FOSS. The important thing is if the distro will correct someone if they fuck up (troon or otherwise). It is tech-fraud jeets you have to worry about who are just desperate to do anything for money. Troons at least have a chance of actually being smart and good at whatever they care about.
>>737995414I simply do not trust Indians to be competent in any capacity.
>>737995414Why did they put in all the bloat and have such a poorly performing operating system in the first place? And if it was so poorly performing why did they not only roll it out, but keep it like that for years and force everyone to adapt it?It's almost as if monopolies are bad and competition is good.
>>737995414>Flutterposting
>>737995740Same, the initial idea was 'if Windows becomes good again I'll go back' but It's comfy, I'm staying
Anons, you do realize you can manually debloat, right? Just Google "what does ___ do?" and uninstall it if you're not gonna use it. The business-only apps, as well as alternate language variants of apps, speak for themselves. Windows 11 even categorizes AI apps for easy removal. Microsoft are potentially about to do this for you while expecting you to clap.
>>737996469Damn, on Nvidia card?
>>737995414>Pushes away ingame ads from the globohomo elites>BTFOs Tim's forced exclusivity bandwagon and all the devs eventually return to Steam with their tail between their legs>Forces Microshit to optimize their trash operating system>Takes away the power from scumbag devs and publishers to lie about system requirements for their unoptimized slops.G-GABEN SAMA... I-I KNEEL
>>738007346>>738020948i miss lee
>>738021126dont you have better things to do with your time, shill-kun? go damage control somewhere else
>>738021417I believe the last sentence in my post is proof I'm not a shill. All I'm saying is that you can do this right now on your own.
>>738021542i shant ever be returning to winslop unless its proven that all ai and jeetcode is removed, all telemetry is removed (no im not jumping through 5 hoops to debloat), the OS is free without needing a ms account, and it runs games better on the same hardware. the ball is in their court
>>737999617I just want shit to work. I have no interest in spending hours tweaking shit and looking up commands to run.
>>738021764>the OS is free without needing a ms accountThis I agree with. The same goes for Xbox, which is even more egregious as at least a PC needs to be online 95% of the time. Both mandates are retarded, though.
>>737995765Windows is total dogshit, but linuxfags are STILL delusional.
Where is he?
>>738011661So the shill drops, and its pure india posting now. Lol
>>737995414>Tim Sweeney sabotages Linux as much as he can.>Says we need to focus on improving Windows and going over to Linux is like moving to Canada because you don't like US politics.>Valve improves Linux significantly.>Windows is now forced to improve.Wow, it's like competition is good or something.
>>737996337>talkignSAAAAR YOU GRAMMER SAAAR
>>738022816
>>737995414I'm confused. Didn't they say they would have Windows 12 by 2028 or something?
What are the actual issues from Windows users about what they don't like about Linux?How can they be solved for in Linux?Is it a convinience issue or compatibility issue?Because both those things can be solved for.
>>738023452half of them are schizophrenia based on stereotypes, the other half are nvidia and chink networking card issues
>>738015165>archival materialmy brother in windows it is worse now
>>738018829>It's such a specific problem affecting a specific iso of a specific distro that he may have just reproduced a bug he found beforehand for clicks.I honestly don't doubt that this is what happened.Guy's a winjeet shill anyway.
>>738023452Making a shortcut for a game on my steam deck made my brain feel small. True story. I could hear Terry Davis calling me a nigger from beyond the grave
>>737995414I'm already on Linux, stupid faggots
>>738007084I used AI to guide meAnd I'm a huge giga retard If I can do itx everyone can do it, and I use local AI, etc, so more steps. For just gaming it's much more simpler
>>738016406>pain in the ass that is configuring everythingOkay so the main issue is configuring things, i.e., knowing what to configure and how to configure it properly.
>>737995928>I used Linux 10 years ago it's still bad trust me bros
>>737995890They're like the vegans of computing.
Proton 11 already plays shit natively on arm pcs too. Windows and the ibm pc is doomed eventually.
>>738006882Someone has made a patch for WINE that enables legitimate Adobe installers to actually work instead of just the pirated 'portable' versions of the Adobe Suite, but it hasn't been merged into the main WINE code yet.
>>738006882No.
>>737995836Security updates for LTSC builds of Windows are vibe coded. You should be switching over to Linux right now.
>>738000361>"WhO cArEs? ThAt GaMe SuXx HuRrRrR"
>>738011730there is literally no advantage to windows or macos existingthe world would be objectively better if everything was just variations of linux where no one really loses anything
>>737998065>man craps on your chest>you complain>he tries to apologize and befriend you>he still crapped on your chest>wtf why are you mad that he crapped on your chest?
>>737995917My steam deck just plays whatever I download. Maybe you are just retarded?
>people actually think linux is for gameslmaohttps://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/search/?q=protonhttps://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted
>>738026501>Games that are EOS'd>Mobile game portsWhat a shit site
I have windows 11 and the only thing iv noticed is that my computer starts up much slower than windows 10. Annoyingly slower. Id press the power button and before I could get in my chair it would be there waiting for me.Now it takes a few seconds. Is this the bloat they are talking about?
>>738026501it's all games that require installing malware to play them on Windows
>>738018973I'm a Linux user, but Secure boot didn't give you blue screens. Secure boot only cares about your bootloader files being signed correctly, so you either copied them wrong to the new drive (if it was your boot drive) or Windows was retarded and put your bootloader not on the SSD with the C: drive on it (would not be shocked, the installer is retarded even compared to archinstall).
>>737995414But I already do love you Fluttershy... and your bloat....
>>738023003This is probably Windows 12. Windows versions use mountain codenames and K2 is a mountain peak. Vista was Longhorn for example.
>>738026814It was definitely on the right drive, I would bluescreen within a week after replacing another SSD, my boot drive would disappear due to it after said bluescreen only to appear as normal after a restart.I turned secure boot off and suddenly no more blue screens.I checked the event viewer and there was errors regarding secureboot during the week. I was gonna update to Win11 that very week and this immediately made me not bother.
>>738027331That really odd as it shouldn't have let you into Windows booting, let alone login with the Secure Boot being broken. That is a Windows specific bug then as Secure Boot was simple to setup and get working on Linux and literally does nothing after boot.
>>738027139>banthro