What level force user should a playable character be?
>>737997358>visas slut to the empire
>>737997358how the fuck is Nihlus that high?
What are these levels and what do they mean?
>>737997495ragebait numbers
>>737997358Kotorfags don't actually believe any of their edgy OCs would be able to even match, much less surpss Anakin in terms of force power, right?
>>737997583old republic is full of characters with op abilities or that done some hilarous shitmostly because it was written after original trilogy, while original trilogy characters never got any update, so the new "old" republic characters have much more expanded variety of powers and exploits
>>737997452>lands on planet>instinctually devours the force essence of every living thing there>aglubglubglubblargleglub>repeatguy was a walking doomsday weapon with a single hard counter
>>737997452because his power is unique and on the level of almost a deity or something supernatural even for the Star Wars universeregardless, he's not even canon so it doesn't matter
>>737997358star wars power wank makes even less sense than mcu or dragon ball wank
>>737997686kind of this, outside specific scenario that player character uses to get him, it's a menace. To know how he works you actually need to somehow get close enough, survive, inform the others and then have some really long range ship snipe his shipand then you have sith emperor, who's like Nihilus, but without any downsides and amped up 5 times
>>737997583Anakin is only OP relative to the cast of the Prequels and OT. In the KOTOR era, he would be a mid-tier Jedi/Sith. The Jedi and Sith went soft by the time the events of the movies rolled around.
>>737997358I despise this character
>>737997358No idea who 1 or 7 are but wasn't the the emperor canonically stated to be the strongest force user?
>>737998058Anakin was also talked about being the most powerful
>>737997358>Glowing eyes for NihlusYoutube clickbait tier image
>>737998165This. Prequel Anakin is basically the strongest character in the movies. The only reason Palpatine was able to exert authority over him in the OT was because he was handicapped.
Movie purists are the fucking worst.
>>737997358Is this the new jeetslop youtube meta? Ive seen a bunch of thumbnails that look like this
>>737997875who is this granpa? I don't play shitty mmos.
>>737997358Level 10 Force User - Slobulus
>>737998440super powerful near invincible god like powers sith emperor from kotor, the one that Revan was trying to kill
>>737997358I don't know who 7 is but he looks less important than even a jobber.One-time background villain-tier design.
>>737998443Didn't expect Slo to be here, genio
who's the guy on the right. looks like saaros
>>738002180sith emperor from SWTOR
>>737997358Around 10
>>738002603sith... emperor...tragic
>>738002891is that before or after the transition
>>737997358Wait, there are power levels in Star Wars like in Dragon Ball? WTF LMAO
>>738003024afaik not. it rather happens through story elements
>>737997747I can't speak about Marvel (or DC) power wanking, but Star Wars power scaling definitely can function better than Dragon Ball's. In Dragon Ball bigger power > smaller power 99,9% of time, in the Star Wars' EU, a Force user could defeat a stronger opponent if their fighting style was a direct counter or if their senses were heightened by a superior state of mind.For example, Dooku ragdolled Obi-Wan several times, yet he died at the hands of Anakin, who later lost to Obi-Wan. This happened because the finesse of Dooku's fighting style (Makashi) could penetrate the openings of the rock-solid defenses of Obi-Wan's form (Soresu). At the same time, Dooku's fencing-like Makashi wasn't sturdy enough to withstand the sheer kinetic power of Anakin's attacks, as Skywalker struck with the force of a baseball hitter. ROTS Vader was superior to ROTS Obi-Wan in terms of raw power, but he lost because Obi-Wan style worked well against his heavy strikes and Obi-Wan also knew his fighting mindset from inside out.Sidious lost to Windu in a similar fashion. Mace Windu utilized a highly unusual form called Vaapad, in which the practitioner channels their inner darkness into the duel, creating a superconducting loop fueled by the opponent's own darkness. Naturally, no one provided more fuel for that loop than Sidious.This isn't in the movies by the way, I'm talking about the EU.
>>738003703togruta sex
>>737997848Galactic Republic era jedi were often stronger in the forces and were more well trained in various lightsaber forms than the ones from the old republic, the only thing they lacked was actual experience in full scale wars and fighting dark side force users, otherwise on paper they were often superior and stronger than the old republic jedi.
>>737997358Vader is impossible to rank. Across Legends/EU, the OG trilogy and Disney canon he ranges from weak cripple who would lose to any jedi master and sith lord of the old days to a literal walking terminator god who is unbeatable.
>>737997648It's actually balanced when you think about it. Pretty much a play on the Roman Empire. Roman Empire did some incredible feats because it was do or die and people walked everywhere and got constant exercise. Even with all the conditioning MMA fighters have today, a good Roman gladiator would win 9/10 fights.
>>737997358Does Asajj Ventress even count as a sith?
Shouldn't Darth Plagueis be up there? And who tf is 7?
>>738003703>in which the practitioner channels their inner darkness into the duelWait I thought Vaapad uses only the opponent's darkness because if you were to use your own darkness you fall to the darkside? Like Vaapad is actually based on a form that used to draw from the darkside and was banned by the jedi order due to it and Windu modified it to make it legal again by only tapping into the darkness of the opponent?
>>738004713This is why I hate Disney and casualfags. They straight up destroyed continuity. People like to hate on prequel trilogy but it was far superior to what Disney did with the sequel trilogy and all the stupid comic relief shows like Baby Yoda that came afterwards. Star Wars was better when everything was a misery and the blanks were theorized by the community. When Disney started to explain everything, it went to utter shit.
>>738004853I'm not angry about this, I like some of the expanded universe and old republic stuff. Just the powerscale is obviously diffirent when you make movies that suddenly become legendary culture defining hits, and then you have decades to build up story around it, like old republic, or comics with, for example, vader stories. So it worth noting that movie siths are not that weak, just they were presented early with various limitation and before many aspects got expanded>>7380050017th is Sith Emperor. Dunno about SWTOR stuff, but if I remember correctly, he was so OP that he coudln't be fought normal way, with lightsaber. It took like seconds for revan to get turned to dark side just by being exposed to him. It's kinda strange to see SWTOR screenshoots with any thinkign humanoid standing so close to him without being dead or mind-enslaved
>>738005001>and who tf is 7Darth Vitiate aka Tenebrae aka Valkorion. Ancient sith who lead the true sith who fled the galaxy after Naga Sadow's sith empire lost the Great Hyperspace War to the republic. He spend hundreds of years in the unknown regions reassembling the sith empire and he is the one that Revan encountered which made him fall to the dark side. Then one day he came back to the core galaxy with his sith empire, stomped the Republic and they signed a peace treaty splitting the galaxy and having a cold war, then he gets betrayed by one of his sith underlings, but he had an even more secret back up empire with a back up body (Emperor Valkorion) and initiated the Eternal Empire that BTFO both the sith and the republic to the point that they had to work together to stop the Eternal Empire.
Anakin and Luke are the strongest force users in the movies and the franchise as a whole. Fuck off with your gay donut steel gary stus.
>>737997358Legends/EU Vader is a mid tier sith lord who never even came close to reaching his true potential due to losing most of his limbs and the flawed suit nerfing him.Disney Vader is the strongest baddest most OP motherfucker to have ever existed.
>>738005575>flawed suitqrd?
>>738005612Palpatine made sure that the life support suit of Vader was made as cheaply and poorly constructed as possible causing constant pain and making it hard to move around both as punishment for Anakin/Vader failing on Mustafar and to make sure that Vader would never be strong enough to threaten and overthrow him.
>>738005612the suit acts as both punishment for his failure and prison to make sure he wont upstage sidiousthey could make a much better suit, but they refused to do so, to have vader on the leash. Suit was heavy as fuck and claustrophobic, forced him to readapt and make a new style of fighting to match him being slow hulk
>>737997358Maul is such a weak pathetic fucking dumbfuck jobber during the Clone Wars and Empire era, but if you were to throw him into the Old Republic era he would clear like 99% of all the jedi and sith there (as long as he doesn't go full cocky retard mode).
>>737997358Shouldn't you start at one then hit 7 in the end game?
>>737997583I find it funny that in legends they buffed every OT character but Vader who's barely Maul tier, they really drove the point that he was a crippled cuck
>>738005987they needed to make sure to not have him too OP, because then people would question how the hell Luke beat him even with emotional damage
I only respect Sith who can force drain an entire planet like Nihilus, Vitiate and Exar Kun.
>>737997358Darth Sidious would be level 7.Darth Vader would be level 6 if his suit didn't have a critical weakness to Force Lightning.
>>738005575All those years of building him up ruined by having him struggle against fucking debra wilson
>>738006025Well Disney said fuck that and made Vader a literal deity who arguably actually got even stronger after getting almost burned to death and losing his legs (because the pain makes him more angry and thus he gets more darkside powers and shit) and he is about as strong as Palpatine.
>>738006348ah, disney and nu-wars, I decided to ignore that and personally I do not consider it canon at all just like the majority of fandom
>>738006108Palpatine 100% could drain planets of life. He just didn't do it quickly and recklessly, because it had horrible drawbacks to the user when done in that manner.Palpatine was incredibly patient and cautious. Those were his biggest strengths as a Sith Lord.
>>737997529starwars is such ass now they should just turn it into a DBZ clone
>>738005708>>738005746being forced to chill on mustafar for a decade wasnt enough?whats his punishment for failing to kill kenobi again on that random rock?wasnt he a tinkerer? why didnt he make a new suit for himself
>>738006493>h-he t-t-totally could do that, he j-j-just didn't because...BECAUSE HE JUST DIDN'T OKAY????kek
>>738006668yes, if you lose in fight, it is a failure and you gonna get punished in sith credohe lost the fight and got himself heavily crippled, even more failure to punishalso since darh IForgotHisName, Sith oeprate in duos, master and disciple. And it's extremly common for disciple to upstage his master, just like palpatine did himself to his own masterPalpatine would quickly realise that vader is making way too much upgrades and dispose of him. Vader was alive only as a tool, and he had a leeway only because there was no other sutiable candidate to replace him. But if he went too far, Palpatine ahd no qualms about disposing of him anyway. What palpatine wanted was a perfect obiedient dog, not bastard trying to up him or a broken toy like vader. Thats why he wanted Luke and Leia
>>737997358Shouldn't Krayt be the strongest since he beat Abeloth while not even at his strongest (granted he had Grandmaster Luke's help there)? He always gets disrespected by "fans" though.
>>738006724you can also fall from a plane 30000 feet and survive but you arent doing that
>>737997358Nihilus was basically a bullshit glitch character that took another bullshit glitch character to defeat. His power was broken on a fundamental level but he wasn't tough outside of it.
>>738006975As the only One Sith fan in the world, he does get disrespected. The One Sith were a good addition and a way to mix the Sith up but they get lost in Talon gooning and being in an early 00s edgekino comic no one read.
>>738007151He still solos your favorites
>>737997583Anakin would have been a 5 if he didn't get Vader'd
>>737998440You know how Sheev was the crazy overpowered unstoppable Sith wizard during his era? The old dude in the picture was the Sheev of the old republic era where force users were significantly more powerful as a whole.
>>738007438>where force users were significantly more powerful as a wholeLmao no they weren't.
>>738007438Only powerful because of game mechanics. There was no in universe explanation to suggest otherwise.
>>738005367Wow that sounds fucking retarded, I'm glad I never played it. Whichever studio wrote it deserves to have everyone worth their salt replaced with danger hairs talking about trannies all day while the company releases nothing but steaming pieces of shit so whoever created that MMO story can see their legacy turn into a maggot infested corpse being paraded around.
>>738004853>good Roman gladiator would win 9/10 fightsLol, they were all short
>>737997358A 2 that grows into a 3 and challenges 4s and 5s. An underdog with a chance.6 and 7 should be unbeatable, barring major asspull super special stars align/perfectly antithetical OP artifact.
>>737997747There's a direct power source in the Force, so it makes sense to assume someone great at the manipulating the Force must be great in a fight. It does get bad when DBZ brains start talking about it and declare "Darth Vader has 9001 Force power so a laser cannon could shoot him in the head and he wouldn't even feel it."
>>737997583Like the other anon said, Anakin is only powerful relative to his time. Peak Revan would rape him doggystyle.
>>738007529The republic was a shadow of its former self in OT even pre-Disney. The jedi order was also a shadow of its former self and most teachings of both sith and jedi were lost. The OR jedi were stronger and had more knowledge than OT, that is a fact.
>>737997358on what level does he fit?
>>738008004Since they have Vader at 3 then he would also be at 3, but realistically Vader is way too low here.
>>738007584NTA but as much as it's OC donutsteel fanfiction as fuck, it's pretty cool going through a secret monarchist society of force users. the lightsaber-spears and force-user plate armor is aestheric as fuck too.
>>738008074He assraped Vader many times. A clear 4.
>>738007861No the later sith became generally stronger than most of the old republic sith once the rule of two got established.
>>738007470>>738007529The Sith holocrons Bane found said as much.
>>738008492Why would rule of two make them stronger?
>>738007438>where force users were significantly more powerful as a wholeThats genuine fanfiction. The Sith got stronger and were able to influence the galaxy in more ways than guys like Exar Kun, Revan and Nihilus could only dream of. The Jedi in the waning years of the Republic had guys like Yoda, Obi-Wan, Windu and more.
>>737997358A Star Wars game should make the player competent at the Force without making them an unstoppable living God. Around 2 on that list, though Darth Maul isn't shown doing much cool Force shit in the short time he does anything in the Phantom Menace.
>this entire threadDisgusting.
>>738007861>The OR jedi were stronger and had more knowledge than OT, that is a factOnly if you talk about the average jedi, the jedi master council members of the OT jedi order are actual beasts who are stronger than jedi masters of the old republic. Obi-Wan, Yoda and Windu beat Revan's ass.
>>738008492Rule of 2 is legends cope. No, Yoda saying there is always a master and apprentice meant Maul didn't train himself so there was someone else orchestrating this. Not "there are exactly 2 sith in the entire galaxy"
>>737997583old republic is populated with legendary mythological figures who arent meant to be compared to main continuity. it's like asking if gilgamesh could beat muhammad ali.
>>738008746Because it ensures that the current sith lord only gets replaced by his sith apprentice who has managed to actually get stronger than him instead of a bunch of weaker sith apprentices teaming up to take out a stronger sith lord. So this succession line leads to a constant increase in power levels.
>>738008967>Obi-WanJobbed to Count Dookie.>YodaHis biggest achievement is literally saying>nah I'm just tiredand then dying, although he probably was strong.>WinduOne trick pony for taking down darksiders.>Only if you talk about the average jediNah, force healing and becoming a force ghost were techniques lost to the council and some were recently rediscovered like force ghosting. OT era is weak and it will be attacked while it is weak.>>738009070The strongest will rise to the top anyway and they'll only be as strong as their birthright allows them too, rule of two doesn't actively make anyone stronger, merely somewhat prevents getting strongest getting ganked by multiple weaklings.
>>738009168>implying Dooku isn't also a beast>implying it wasn't just because Dooku's lightsaber form is the only form that can perfectly counter Obi-Wan's
>>737997529>force jesus and his son>weaker than some british slag and tantrum boykek i hate disney
>>738009251The problem with so many of these characters is they just do absolutely nothing in the movie other than win fight, run away and die another day. Then you read the EU lore and it's>Dark sith lord force-rapes entire planet and spawns entire generation of evil then battles 200 mandalorians at the same time
>>738009168>Jobbed to Count Dookie.Understandable as Dooku was probably the best lightsaber duelist the Jedi ever had
>>738009004Plus lucas made the inquisitors, so there being more than 2 dark side jedi is canon, and the distinction of not calling them sith is also fucking dumb and nonsensical. The idea that over all the years in the entire galaxy that no sith would try to make an army and cause trouble just doesn't make sense when one of their prime tenants is a thirst for power.
>>737997798The Sith Emperor can do what Nihilus does, but has to warm up to it. Because the Emperor is also able to possess people remotely and just worm his way into peoples minds to take over an entire planet and make an entire planet himself all while still having a primary host body a galaxy away. Even when he dies, he can just latch onto someone who killed him and live as a force being until he can take total control. The Eternal Emperor Vitias is bullshit
>>738009504Forget the inquisitors. Ventress, Maul, Savage, Dooku, the green hijab padwan and Sheev were alive at the same time while Anakin was falling to the dark side too. There is no rule of 2
>>738008832The force goes through all things. Due to the amount of life in the Galaxy in the age of rebellion, the force was weaker, because it was spread thinner over more things. One of the reasons to blow up a shit ton of planets is that you return all that life to the force, thus making the force stronger, a high tide raises all boats and all that.
>>738009660>Savage OppressIt's giving me the Darth Icky
>>738009660Maul was assumed dead and stopped being Palpatine's apprentice.Ventress and Savage were never true sith.Anakin wasn't a sith while Dooku was still alive.
>>738009660I always took it as Jedi arrogance, the rule of 2 is something they think is absolute, the idea it isn't doesn't even render. The Jedi are proud to the point of blindness, that's one of the things about the prequel era that's like a core tenant
>>738009660>There is no rule of 2There is. Sith are like open relationships. There is always one special person, but you always have a backup just in case.
>>738009778>Maul was assumed dead and stopped being Palpatine's apprentice.>Anakin wasn't a sith while Dooku was still alive.Who cares? Wasn't the point of that "rule" to limit the number of dark side users in the galaxy to 2 just to conceal your presence from the jedi?>Ventress and Savage were never true sith.Why? Because Sheev didnt call them sith?
>>738010014>Wasn't the point of that "rule" to limit the number of dark side users in the galaxy to 2 just to conceal your presence from the jedi?Yes but also to concentrate the dark side power and knowledge. Otherwise you get too many idiots trying to do something
>>738010014Yes Sheev being the ruling Sith Master is the authority in deciding who gets be his apprentice and thus become a Sith Lord, while every other dark side force user does not get granted the title of sith lord. That's also why none of the inquisitors are sith.
>>738009004>>738009504>The idea that over all the years in the entire galaxy that no sith would try to make an army and cause trouble just doesn't make sensewell the yews also only sent Epstein and Mawellthe rest and corruption happens in the background naturally, then eventually you swoop in. but the more significant moves happen in pairspulled this outta my ass but it kinda totally makes sense. what say you, hombre
>>737997358I dont even know who 1, 4, or 7 are
>>738008384>A clear 4.so what was Vader the chosen one for? to receive a massive gaped asshole? abysmal lore
>>737997358If everyone fired a cannonball at a jedi, he couldn't stop it. He wouldn't be able to force push cannonballs away in all directions, and if he tried to deflect the cannonball with his lightsaber, only the middle part would get disintegrated, but the two halves of the cannonball would still keep flying at him. The same is true for grapeshot blunderbusses, which I think the bounty hunters could rig up even if gunpowder wasn't so common in the star wars universe. Basically, I think a shotgun or two guys firing shotguns from the front and rear of a jedi at a jedi would kill him because he can't force push all the pellets away and he can't reflect all the pellets either.
>>738010249So there were multiple dark side force users + even more in training running around and no one noticed proving the rule was bullshit cope>>738010287You are talking about titles in a discussion about force users. The inquisitors also came after order 66 didnt they?
>>738010249Sith naturally in fight, it's like the USSR, everyone has to be boastful and constantly trying to fuck over everyone else to impress and later usurp their master.
>>738009486I have no idea how any self-respecting Star Wars fan can watch this digital shit. i fell asleep (of IRL exhaustion) multiple times while trying to watch that fucking Bad Company shit
>>738010386>so what was Vader the chosen one forFor his role in bringing balance to the force, not being an op gigachad. Ignore the sequels which retcon this
>>738010352I understand not recognizing that form of revan but how can you recognize Nihiuls but not Asajj Ventress?
>>7379973581-3, usually.With 5 as an unlockable character in multiplayer.
>>738005125In other words, the should have kept the Darth Zanzibarts
>>738009716That is also fanfiction. The Force needs life to thrive, something Yoda states in a movie thats older than you are.
>>738010437They're called slug throwers, Trandoshin's use them. They're just shotguns firing solid metal slugs, when it passes through a lightsaber, it melts but it doesn't destroy the projectile so it still hits. But it's uneffective against enemies with any level of armor, it's just a trick trandoshins and mando's use against Jedi
>>738010616>>738010437Jedi Academy also had a Flechette gun you could use.
I fucking hate Toydarians
>>738010691But you also don't hate the Muun enough.
>>738010460Titles are important because Sheev still cares about them and honors them, even if he constantly tried to find loopholes in the rule of two, he would never grant any of the other dark side force users that serve him the title of being a sith lord, that title was only reserved for himself and his apprentice.
>>738010767So the rule of 2 is bullshit and there can be any number of dark side users as long as Sheev or whoever's in charge only calls one of them Darth
>>738008967Revan wasn't even that hot of a shit in the OR era in the grand scheme of things. He got BTFO by a strike team of 4 jedi/sith that weren't Jedi master or Sith lord at the time.
>>738010496holy shit. a certified fence shitter? christ lord o mighty >i'm dressing up in all black for All Hallows Eve and scaring all the pregnatas
>>738008384Didn't Starkiller also beat the Emperor?
>>738010872Sith are all about subversion and breaking the rules. Theres nothing more subversive than finding a technical loophole in your own teachings to use a disposable pawn for a brief period of your study and training. Maul was never going to be a true Sith Lord. Dooku was a Sith Lord but was a replacement until Anakin was ready.
>>738011025Revan was essentially a zombie during that. The fight on Yavin 4 would take place after the jedi sith or other were master's/councilors etc. and that was still just his corpse animated by his hate of the emperor, his soul is actively trying to stop him and he was still harder than Malgus
>>738010872Yeah but also only the apprentice with the Darth title gets to learn the more advanced and spicy dark side stuff, the other extra cucks only get the basics taught so that they can never become a threat.
>>737997358Lucas said Palpatine is the strongest sith lord, the last 2 are shitty fanfic characters.
Reminder that Nihilus is a jober that's completly reliant on his one gimmick.
>>737997583Anakin was a dumbass, a midi-chlorian count higher than Yoda's means little without Yoda's wisdom.
>>738011740Well anyone can job when Master Force Speed and Flurry Spam is OP.
>>738010523Who is nihilus? I thought one of them was the dude from kotor?
>>738006668you gotta remember Vader was a self hating loser at that point. he had nothing to live for so he probably welcomed the punishment. Bro could've built a better life support suit in an afternoon if he wanted to, but he'd rather sulk for 20 years.
Star Wars is so weird. Like none of these characters are real or exist or have any kind of reputational bearing on the average person yet everyone on the internet participates in a community LARP to hype them up like they're Napolean Bonaparte or some shit. "Hey bro you won't BELIEVE the power level of Darth Dicksuckius and what he did on Abemogran-IV" and then everyone nods and goes along with it like "omggg tell me about Darth Dicksuckius!". It's the most american thing ever
>>738009070kek didnt Palpatine murder Plagueis in his sleep after he got drunk? So much for increasing power levels.
>>738012126It's a nerd thing. Plus human tribalism or whatever etc etc.
>>738012126Literally all capeshit and shonen anime have this too, stop being autistic
>>738012343also sports if we're being honest.
>>737999023Don't call me genio
>>737997358>Average fans Anakin, Vader, Palpatine and Yoda were the strongest>IdiotsMy Edge Lord super powerful with Sith Lord Revanchist no diffs them all lmaoThis is no better than fan faction
>>738012478it IS fan fiction. Star Wars has exactly 3 movies, (weirdly enough titled episode IV, V, and VI)and everything else is deranged fan fiction at best.
>>738011740Is this suggesting that the ability Nihilus used to wipe out an entire planet just wouldn't work on Vader? Anyway he takes the right approach which is that it would play out however the writer thinks would work best.
>>738012478Star Wars is fiction bro who gives a shit
>>738012561>weirdly enough titled episode IV, V, and VINo, they're titled Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, respectively, retard.
>>738010437They'd just do an AoE Force Push, however, you are correct in saying that physical projectiles have the potential to be more effective than blaster fire against a Jedi.Like another anon said, the Transdoshans (alien species that looks like a reptilian humanoid) made good use of slug throwers since they were known to be excellent hunters. What's funny is that slug throwers were deemed illegal in the Republic, partly due to the fact that they have a spread like a shotgun, but also because they were effective anti-Jedi weapons.Then you've got the weapons made by the Verpine, an insectoid race. Their shatter guns operate on magnetic field tech, similar to something like a rail gun. They came in a variety of types as well, from smaller, handheld weapons all the way to sniper rifles. They were also incredibly silent and fired solid projectiles at hypersonic speeds. If you utilized subsonic ammo, they were completely silent. Unlike traditional slug throwers, these fuckers can, and will, fuck up armored targets. Their only real downside is their fragility. They don't take getting dropped or tossed around very well and EMPs will fuck up the acceleration coils. Another neat feature about them is the fact that you can load shit like rocks into them and still ruin someone's day.
>>737997529>disneyslop>>737997358>Ai YouTube trash
>>738011104>Maul was never going to be a true Sith Lord. Dooku was a Sith Lord but was a replacement until Anakin was ready.Darth Maul was intended to be a true Sith Lord though, Dooku was the only one who was always meant to merely keep the Sith Apprentice seat warm (for Skywalker). Maul being trained to be a simple tool like a mere Sith Assassin is a pre-TCW Maul return concept.Maul had the proper Sith training, was highly educated in the galactic political affairs, knew how to enforce political manipulation and deception (that's how he overthrew the government of Mandalore and later became a powerful crime lord).That's also why before TPM (32 BBY) Dooku (who had already left the Jedi Order by then) was merely Sidious' political ally and Maul remained Sidious apprentice.>between 42-32 BBYPlagueis seems to be still alive and the "ruling" Sith Lord. Sidious is already planning on "overthrowing" him. Maul is Sidious' own apprentice. Jedi Master Dooku leaves the Jedi Order. Dooku and Palpatine become acquaintances and sometime later Palpatine reveals his true identity. Maul remains the Sith Apprentice, Dooku is an ally and does some dirty work for Sidious.>32 BBY (TPM)Maul is defeated by Obi-Wan and presumed dead. Yaddle finds out about Dooku and Sidious. Dooku kills Yaddle and Sidious makes him his new apprentice (since Maul was supposedly killed). Sidious is already aware of Anakin Skywalker and his big midichlorian power level.Maul was groomed to be a proper Sith Lord, Dooku was also a Sith Lord (and trained as such), but merely meant to fill this role until Anakin was deemed ready to replace him. Sidious would probably have replaced Maul with Anakin as well, but that wasn't the original plan when he abducted Maul from Mother Talzin.
>>738010496This is canon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF1zcHyqOhw
>>738013090Dooku more like jedi politician who tip into the dark side, despite sith eye briefly
>>738012606He's taking the piss, annoyed at nerds for asking these questions. Like the invincible writer saying that omni man would kill superman
>>738013090>he was a proton torpedoGod, I hate fanfic writers so much. They will insert specific terms where they're completely unnecessary, just for the memberberries.What's wrong with just saying "torpedo"?
>>738012126imagine being baffled by basic human nature that has existed for thousands of years at this point
>>737997848>Anakin is only OP relative to the cast of the Prequels and OT. In the KOTOR era, he would be a mid-tier Jedi/Sith.Absolute fan fiction. Anakin is the chosen one. His powerlevel is straight up a plot point. Calling him a mid tier Jedi/Sith in any era is dumb as hell
>>737997529Is this their midichlorian count or something? Is this what shows up on a scouter?Also, Disney isn't beating the self-insert fanfiction allegations.>My characters are stronger than the other protagonists, BOTH of them! I'm , I mean they're so strong!>And then they kiss!
>>737998257As opposed to disneyfags or kotorfag? We tried to have fun with Jacen solo and Luke having a ginger it but you people never accepted that or us.
>>738008004How do she fit?
>>738003703>but he lost because Obi-Wan style worked well against his heavy strikes and Obi-Wan also knew his fighting mindset from inside out.Also because he made the worst tactical decision in the history of lightsaber duels. I think George said that Anakin would've won if the fight had kept on going
>>738013090>Maul had the proper Sith training, was highly educated in the galactic political affairs>Maul was groomed to be a proper Sith Lord,Maul wast sent to a suicidal mission to stop 2 jedi and doing so revealed his face and connections to the dark side.
>>738007584It sounded kinda cool to me. Warhammeresque in a way. Republic and sith working together could make sense but it would have to be done very delicately imo
>>737998165>Anakin was also talked about being the most powerfulHe would have been, had he realized his maximum potential. Instead, he got his limbs chopped off, which drastically lowered his midichlorian count due to losing so much of his body.
>>738013343Possibly because regular torpedoes aren't a thing in a series known for space battles? I agree with that specific term being unnecessary (hey guiz, remember what destroyed the Death Star?!), though. Going with something like a Thermal Detonator would have been a better way to illustrate that Tyranus was a destructive weapon that was meant to be used once.
>>738003703>>738003903What if Luke married Ahsoka, help him rebuilt Jedi order.
>>738013627How can they not be a thing if the word is there and in use? A proton torpedo is just a specific kind of torpedo.
>>738005806PICK THE FUCKING KYBER
>>738006181They do that shit every time. The same thing happened in the Obi-Wan show, where he lost to Obi-Wan AGAIN. It's so bad that I've seen people convinced that Obi-Wan would've fucked Vader up on the Death Star had Luke not appeared, which is partly a result of Disney saying Vader is strong, but then showing him being weak
>>737997358>kylo grem stronger than darth fucking vaderlol
>>738007174That one sith dude in the back looks cool
>>738013872That's revan
>>737997358What about starkiller
it's exhausting enough being a trek fan with all the shit we've had in recent years, I cannot fucking imagine being a SW fan and enduring a 15+ year humiliation ritualit's made even worse by the fact SW is so much more popular; I can just ignore garbage like Picard, you guys have to constantly hear about this stupid shit
>>738013890Darth Nihl and he has a cool saber too
>>738013726Yes, they exist, but we never see one because all the ship vs ship battles take place in space, not in the water. I meant "not really a thing" in the sense that they aren't used in the events we as the audience see.
>>738006904The thing is, Palpatine in RotS pretty much contradicts this when he proudly tells Yoda that Vader will become stronger than either of them. If the idea is to have a perfectly loyal dog, then why pick Anakin, who as far as Palpatine knew would soon grow to outmatch him?
>>7380139474. He's above Vader. I am a firm believer that Palpatine let himself be beaten by him so I dont consider him a level 5
>>738013971Counterpoint: we still hear "don't go off half-cocked" and "bite the bullet" regularly, despite the military origins of these sayings not being relevant for 100+ years.
>>737997358Reminder that Nihilus is canonically weaker than even Naga Sadow, according to the writer of KOTOR 2 himself.
>>738014030>>738013947He basically Anakin full potential without the lava intense burned.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjO0fn6QXGc
>>738012245I always found that to be interesting as a kid in the 2010s. Out of all the deaths, Plagueis stands out because he was so powerful that he could(supposedly) resurrect anons but got killed in his sleep. Amazing. Made you want to know more.
>>738013957Star Wars still has good media (Andor, Fallen Order). Star Trek has Shartfleet Academy and nothing else.
>>738014013because his masterplan include having a attack dog stronger than him while still having a loyal dog that wont try to out him
>>737998165Was Sidious really accepting he was going to be rule of twoed before anaking got roasted?
>>738011104Wtf did maul do that made palp despise him so? He always gets treated like a cuck in every spinoff and canon
>>738008723You mean the guy who died to a literally who bounty hunter?
>>738014134Be interesting if Plagueis survives and take over Jar Jar body
>>737997848Anakin is Force Jesus. He is a physical incarnation of Force sent to enact its will by killing the Sith in episode 6. You can't outforce him
>>738014239Yes because it means he did his job and found an even stronger Sith. No because he always planned on living forever
>>737997583i fucking hate kotorniggers and filonislop niggers
>>738014116Full potential Anakin is literally a force god that can control the Ones, Starkiller at his peak still barely can defeat Vader with a bunch advantages and his suicide attack did jack shit to Sidius.
>>738014201>Star Wars still has good media
>>738010496>For his role in bringing balance to the force, not being an op gigachad.That's from the prequels, not the sequels. The prequels made him the chosen one destined to destroy the sith
>>738012478Plagueis solos all of them though and is canon anyway you look at it
>>738014201How long is Ahsoka season 2?
>>737997848This is just blatantly false, pretty much ever source that compares the two eras just places the Prequel era Jedi / Sith leagues above Old Republic. Just because they're not in an active war doesn't mean they can't grow overtime, specially when it comes to force user where studying and meditating is consistently a better way to become stronger than just nonstop fighting.
>>738014231But Anakin straight up tells Padme that he can destroy Palpatine. He clearly intended to betray him
>>738012561When the original trilogy came out, wtf did people think of the emperor? Did they see him as some hastily dude written out of nowhere? Did they wonder how he shot lightning? Like before the prequels, what did people have to say about all the unexplained lore???
>>738008004Level 99
>>738013090Would Mauls species ever be accepted in a political party? Like pretty sure he is arguably one of the most frightening looking beings out there and the rest of his people are just evil. I can't see him being a public figure.
>>738014565I wasn’t born but he wasn’t just brought out of nowhere. He appeared in ESB, he’s referenced multiple times in the film and in a series about space wizards I imagine him shooting lightning was cool as fuck. I know Ian Diarmind who plays him was upset that Dooku shot lightning as George said it was a Sheev thing only
>>738014679They don’t all look like Maul
>>737998440MMO power creep Palpatine
>>738013969How come Star wars never has buff characters? Specifically Jedi/sith. In the first image you showed he looked built.
>>738014013That's kind of the whole point of Bane's Rule of Two. You, as the Master, certainly wouldn't want to be killed, however, for the sake of the Sith, you'd rather be killed and replaced by someone better than you. I also think that's why he kept multiple apprentice candidates around, to potentially pit them against one another to see who comes out on top. It's a loophole within the Rule and it suits someone like Palps who worked within the system of the Republic and exploited its own rules to take over. >>738014082That's a fair counterpoint. Those are idioms, though, and not two different, albeit similar, weapons. Maybe if Sidious went a little deeper with that metaphor (Tyranus was a torpedo, sent to fracture the hull of the pitiful Republic), it would have been better to just use torpedo. That's why I suggested the Detonator. It's something intrinsically Star Wars and gets the point across that Tyranus was a disposable weapon meant to cause as much damage as possible without relying on memberberries.
>>738009393>implying Palpatine's daughter and Leia and Han's son wouldn't be that powerful
>>738014717Maul is a Dathomirian Zabrak, which is arguably its own race different from regular Zabraks.
>>738014201Shaka, when the walls fell.SW doesn't have writing anywhere as beautiful as that. Just powerwank and politics for children.
>>738012998>slug throwers were deemed illegal in the Republic, partly due to the fact that they have a spread like a shotgun, but also because they were effective anti-Jedi weapons.Murder, bounty hunting, war, rebellion, separatism, slavery, and being a Sith, was deemed illegal in the Republic.Thank the senate they passed those laws.
>>738014767The mando film directors heard your wish
>>738014542and here's the thing, dark side is like a hard drug, you think you're in control, but after taking it you go 180. That's why whole jedi training is all about avoiding tapping into emotions too much, staying calm and avoiding risks or seductions. Windu special style is basically balancing on that line bettween dark and light side, as seen with his seemingly aggresive stanceone you hit a dark side, you're basically an overemotional maniac. Being a a sith amster and mastering dark side results in hiding those emotional vortex behnd cold mask. Or multiple masks.that's why, after joinign the dark side, he had no problem or remorse killing the famous younglings, then killing anyone he was ordered to, and then jumping on Obi while force choking Padme. Taking a side in the force is not just ideological pick. Dark side basically changes how you react and perceive thingshis "Im in controll i'lldeal with palpatine" is the same line said by hundreds upon hundreds of dark force users who beleived they can tap into dark side without getting wet
>>738003703>but he lost because Obi-Wan style worked well against his heavy strikes and Obi-Wan also knew his fighting mindset from inside outDidn't Anakin lose because his heart wasn't fully in it? He was still conflicted about his fall to the Dark Side which is the reason Sidious got so pissed at him. If you lose your willpower in Star Wars you get heavily weakened. Its the same reason he lost to Luke, he didn't want to kill his son whilst Luke was both bloodlusted and also was giving into the dark side during that fight.
>>738014542Yet palpatine also knew Anakin loved Amidala. He could always use her in some capacity just like he did when windu was killing him
>>738014827Just a sub species. Only Maul looks truly scary
>>738014923But Palpatine should know better, because the dark side had Anakin almost choking Padme to death
>>738014679If they can accept a literal spider and a bunch of other ugly freaks, they can accept a guy with horns who brutally face and frame moggs them. But Maul needn't be an open political leader and he wouldn't have. He would control things from the shadows and have a puppet in place as his frontend.
>>738013343I'm trying to think what you'd even put in its place.Calling him a torpedo sounds dumb.Maybe a tool. But with different wording.
>>738014827Are they on the same planet? Seems like a Negro and Caucasian situation to me.
>>738014878>his "Im in controll i'lldeal with palpatine" is the same line said by hundreds upon hundreds of dark force users who beleived they can tap into dark side without getting wetBut that process is built into the sith philosophy. And Anakin was completely right in saying that he could beat Palpatine, if not at the time, then in the near future. Anakin is a huge gamble for Palpatine when it comes down to it
>>738014110>even Naga SadowHe was pretty powerful though, he could make a star go supernova.
>>738014869
It’s good
>>738014201>Andor's goodThe only people I heard praise this were the type to write political manifestos that reddit agree with and played Disco Elysium multiple times.
>>738015053No regular Zabraks are from Iridonia, Dathomirian Zabraks are from, well, Dathomir. They were brought to Dathomir as slaves and then had bred with evil female human witches who enslaved them and created a new race where the males look mostly like Zabraks and the female mosty look human.
>>738015124>not forming your own opinion cattle
>>738013445Her games soon?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpbNGwGXHM
>>738015056as you already noticed, Palpatine is not your typical sith lordhe spend his entire life doing that delicate machinations, piting republic vs federation, playing both sides. He would not tolerate the thing he considered a flaw in rule of two aka his padawan overtaking him. In pure force fight sure, Palpatine would lose to Anakin. But what Palpatine does, is spread a web of various schemes to keep anakin in checkfor example, Padme and kids were one of several plans to keep Anakin in check. As do why Palpatine wanted a pupil stronger than him, then one of the reason is, that if anything beats his pupil, he already gets alerted that there's some danger he need to deal with and plan forwhat's scary about palpatine is not his force powers, but him being a mastermind. Meanwhile, Anakin is jsut a pwoerful, but still, a grunt
>>738015113I have no interest in seeing that because it's another cuck series set after ROTS before ANH. I know that nothing that happens here will ever matter for anything that happens later. Maul can't do anything important. We already know how Maul's story ends.
>>738015027It makes some sense. He's calling him a single use tool that does its job but gets consumed in the process.
>>7380080049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq30vO3K4Lw
>>738015124>I have decided it can't be good because I've seen people I don't like who like itAnonchama, look in the mirror for once. /pol/shit is destroying your soul for no good reason.
>>738015027cannonball
>>738014201>"Star Wars still has good media" >quotes Andor and Fallen Order
play this niggas https://kyber.gg/
>>738009393I can buy Rey being stronger than Luke, but Kylo being stronger than Vader? Fuck right off
>>738015574the US HvV server is like never live anymore that's all i play for. but when it does pop off that shit is so good
>>738015271>Palpatine would lose to Anakin. But what Palpatine does, is spread a web of various schemes to keep anakin in checkThe thing is that Anakin already seems determined to kill him some day. What would Palpatine do, run and hide? The only thing he has over Anakin is Padme, and that's only because Anakin saw her die in childbirth. He's on a pretty short timer before Anakin figures out he doesn't need him>that if anything beats his pupil, he already gets alerted that there's some danger he need to deal with and plan forThe point of Anakin was that no other danger was supposed to be capable of beating him. By all accounts he would've become the strongest force user and most skilled duelist to have ever existed, so why would Palpatine think anything out there could beat him?
>>738014201I like how you mentioned the only two semi-decent pieces of media that exist for modern SWalso Fallen Order is generic as fuck
>>738015574Most of Battlefront 2 mods look like shit. Just look at this Ventress. So bland. Looks like it's unfinished. There is no texture to her. She also looks fat and that face is ghastly.
>>738009778Didn't Ventress call herself a Sith in Genndy Wars? Yeah, yeah, sure Genndy Wars isn't canon, but still.
>>738014565Everyone enjoyed it and had fun.No-one needed lore. It was an instantly classic story with no weaknesses, to the point where George's CGI additions couldn't damage it.Just like how no-one needed to know how Palpatine survived, somehow, just that the story, its presentation, and culture, was why no-one liked that.
>>738015196>the only unique opinions are the ones that agree with mineandor was trash
>>738015196>consoomer calling others cattle>>738015463>point out /pol/shit, get called /pol/
>>738015829it plays fun, if you just want aesthetics go watch some AI slop. in conquest they added a geonosian blaster that is straight up aids its awesome, makes you not want to camp on corners of buildings
>>738015913Dooku say she a wannabe.
Anyone else miss 2016 SW battlefront cargo? One of the few multiplayer gamers I was genuinely good at. I used think about making a clan and going pro but their wasn't much popularity compared to overwatch or rainbow six siege
>>738015472you can re-use cannonballs
>>738015804>The thing is that Anakin already seems determined to kill him some day. What would Palpatine do, run and hide? The only thing he has over Anakin is Padme, and that's only because Anakin saw her die in childbirth. He's on a pretty short timer before Anakin figures out he doesn't need himyou're asking how a guy who played both sides for decades, could entangle a guy who thinsk he's hot shit. He thinsk he's determined. His determination broke pretty easily and dark side eroded him. That's why anakin is a grunt in comparision. We don't know how he would leash anakin without padme, because that scenario did not come, when anakin choked her and got himself crippled>The point of Anakin was that no other danger was supposed to be capable of beating him. By all accounts he would've become the strongest force user and most skilled duelist to have ever existed, so why would Palpatine think anything out there could beat him?it only looks that way because palpatine got wrecked or pretended to be wrecked by Windu. Both parties, republic and federation had means to dispose of him, had they discovered strings he's pulling. This is the whole point of a mastermind - you control parties that are fully capable of destroying you or stronger than you in solo combat, and make them do your orders. If you want real world example, think of a king, who has enough political power to command entire armies of a strong or strongest country in the world, despite half of his army being able to behead him in single combatyour knight think he can do it? sure, he can. But can he deal with consequences after? Now, you have anakin who's both stronger and think he can do it. Reality is, consequences would be too dire for him to even attempt
>>738015287It's extremely clunky and has no frame of reference for anyone.>"he was a [proton] torpedo">brain activates>uhhh thing>thing water>kills ships>kaBOOM>he used an exploding thing to get anakin to turn into darth vader?>why didn't he call him a bomb?>wait, why would anakin executing dooku be a bomb? What? That's closer to a poison chalice, or being bloodied, or literally anything else!If you have to explain the metaphor (which the writer did in the comic) it's a bad metaphor.i.e.>I learned from the mistakes of my forebears>I used non-siths>darth maul was a loss>I had a superior candidate in mindnone of these had the writer explaining what the fuck he was going on about. For a reason.
>>738016340I agree, seems cringe and I can somewhat imagine what type of person that specific writer must look like or act like
I don't like how much magic and alchemy was incorporated into the dark side force powers in the legends stuff Like sithspawn and Abeloth are just too much magic.
>>738015271>what's scary about palpatine is not his force powers, but him being a mastermindYou could say the same thing about Darth Plageus, but after many years of being his apprentice, Palpatine saw him vulnerable for a few short minutes due to attacks by non-Jedi political enemies, and stuck and killed him.Over the course of decades, the same thing is likely to happen to the Emperor. Perhaps that's why he was always sending Vader on missions instead of having him around like a bodyguard or student.
>>738016513>AbelothDon’t watch Ahsoka s2 then
>>738012998>silent hypersonicBut you create sound waves that make a sonic boom when you go faster than sound with an object.>>738014829How are you supposed to catch people who skip bail with no bounty hunters?
Maul was fine as a mystry nigga with a cool lightsaber in the prequel and as a way to set up that a Sith Lord was skulking about in the shadows. Every single thing done with him after that is complete and utter shit.
>>737997358Start at 0, train your way to level 3.
>>738016513You don't like the witches?
>>738016536>You could say the same thing about Darth Plageus, but after many years of being his apprentice, Palpatine saw him vulnerable for a few short minutes due to attacks by non-Jedi political enemies, and stuck and killed him.and that's also a point, there's always some unforseen shit or mistake in calcualtions. Look how Palpatine died himself, vader jut thrown him in a monent despite vader being built to get wrecked by lightning if he doesn't obeyPalpatine learned from his previous masters. That improved a lot, but it didn't make him completely invincible. Since anakin turned to be cripple, we don't know how effective his countermeasures against rebellion would be. Just that he was smart enough to preplan for itthat's kinda fun about SW characters. Even the strongest faggot around has a flaw that can be exploited. Entire Luke thing was drilling that small anakin inside vaderAnd forgive me if i misremembered, but palpatine point in trilogy was that he never really left coruscant unless prepared. He amde sure he's behind shitton of defensive measures so no assasin can get trhough despite him being a pretty skilled fighter himself. He only exposed himself to get a new toy and died
>>738015267Potential nemesis system games alongside Claymore, Shaman King, and ASOIAF
>>738016652>How are you supposed to catch people who skip bail with no bounty hunters?I dunno, can't we just send the senate guard after them?My people can't bathe at night or read books because we can't afford electricity and the brown fishmen keep laughing at me.
>>738016328>it only looks that way because palpatine got wrecked or pretended to be wrecked by WinduIt's a central plot point that Anakin was going to become the strongest force user ever. He's the chosen one, so it's not a question of appearance. Both Palpatine and the jedi knew with certainty that Anakin would become an absolute powerhouse.In the span of two years Anakin went from being a padawan that couldn't 2v1 Dooku, to being able to 1v1 Dooku seemingly without a lot of effort. >If you want real world example, think of a king, who has enough political power to command entire armies of a strong or strongest country in the world, despite half of his army being able to behead him in single combatYeah, but I think Anakin would actually be able to get away with it due to how powerful he would be at that point>Reality is, consequences would be too dire for him to even attemptWe're talking about the guy who almost killed the wife he turned to the dark side for in the first place, and he been all smiles and happy to see her just minutes before he started to choke the bitch
>>738014679Ofc. Ever heard of the big nose tribe in the real world?
>>738013616They are stored exclusively in the balls, which palpatine made sure to save.
>>738017119Jewess are kinda hot... have you seen those idf advertisements?
>>738016652Which is why they aren't listed as completely silent unless they're firing subsonic rounds. At the shooter's location, there is no sound even with the hypersonic rounds. At the target's location? All that anyone hears is a faint whistling sound or a very distinctive snap sound, depending on the properties of the projectile. These things are capable of accelerating things like ice, dust, and even fucking water to lethal speeds at close range using their gravity-based tech, so I'm assuming they defy our conventional physics laws that state a projectile will not continue to accelerate forward after leaving the barrel and will instead be subjected to downwards acceleration via gravity.
>>738014239Who knows. The question is whether he cares more about the sith or his own life. But like another anon has been saying ITT, papa Palpatine probably had some plan for how to avoid getting Sindri'd
>>737997358fuck force users
>>738017381Those are slavic prostitutes
>>737997358>What level force userevery single thing that happened to star wars after the first movie is bad
>>738010293>only sent Epstein and Mawellthey had their entire diaspora as an intelligence network thoughbeit
>>738014474>reading comprehension
>>737997875You guys ARE playing during 2XP weekend in TORtanic, right?
>>738018945pls no bully
>>738016309one the ones that don't assplode
>>737997358Level 8
>>737997358Who's the guy on the right?
>>738009716That's bullshit and you know it. If the force was some finite force that stretches itself thin between all life in universe, it would've been completely useless to everyone. It's not like universe is only 30000 years old, going by that logic the Sith lords a million years ago would've been universe busters.
>>738019581SWTOR Sith Emperor
>>738019651Thanks
>>738013571If Maul had won there'd be no witnesses and no one would know he had revealed himself to the Jedi.
>>738016832>And forgive me if i misremembered, but palpatine point in trilogy was that he never really left coruscant unless prepared. He amde sure he's behind shitton of defensive measures so no assasin can get trhough despite him being a pretty skilled fighter himself. He only exposed himself to get a new toy and diedI don't remember that ever being explicitly stated, but it's a reasonable assumption.
>>738014272Wasn't he killed by his apprentice, as he planned?
>>738013417Basically its like>if you beat the previous top dog then you are stronger by defaultVader is weaker than obi wan kenobi for example since he beat vader, same goes with the whore
whats kreyas level? would put her at 4 or 5
How would you rank Sidious, Vitiate, Exar Kun, Caedus, Krayt, Plagueis, Revan, Nihilus, Marka Ragnos, Tenebrous, Freedon Nadd, Qel-Droma, Tyrannus, Karness Muur, Naga Sadow, Ludo Kressh, Maul, Malgus, Desolous, Bane, Zannah, Malak, Ruin, Rivan, Skere Kaan, Belia Darzu, Dark Underlord, Shira Brie, Traya, Millennial, Sion, Talon, Ajunta Pall, Nihl, Bandon, Ruyn, Wyyrlok, Maladi, Cognus, Gravid, Marr, Vowrawn, Jadus, Nox, Thanaton, Baras, Scourge, Acharon, Decimus, Vengean, Shaar, Arkous, Ravage, Mortis, Hadra, Azard, Havok, Vectivus, Stryfe, Cognus, Xalek and Andeddu?
>>738022059Kreia can't be above Maul. So 2, although I would rather put Maul at 4 and her at 3.
>>738022059Her skills were in manipulation and misdirection, not in the force
What’s his power level?
>>738022120I recognize all these names
>>738022120Darth Maladi sex
>>737997358>hard counters force powersYour response, forcecucks?
>>738022120Darth Talon sex
>>737997495same number theory autists employ as when they say Supablasta is an Omega level mutant
>last movie i saw in theaters with my dad was last jediunrelated to this thread but got reminded of it.
>>738014565>empire has an emperorNot big surprise. And he was mentioned in the first movie in the meeting where Tarkin says the senate has been dissolved.
>>738017058>before he started to choke the bitchThat has more to do with women than Anakin tho, famalamadingdong
Anybody remember Ferus Olin?
>>737997875Knights of the daddy issues was the worst thing to happen to tortanic. Completely killed the story and now youre forced into the faggy alliance commander route that literally no one likes
Sith should have used blades. Jedi and fallen jedi can use lightsabers. The sith should revel in the blood and carnage
>>738014816han has no relation to the force, he's nothing, and leia only became a space flying machine in the new movies you faggot, she's also a fucking nobody because she couldn't even figure out how to use the force until she was fucking 70 or however old she's supposed to be thennot that star wars was worth much in the first place, but it went from a 6/10 to a 3, at most
>>737997358Weird ranking. Most consistent EU scaling here would be more likePalpatineVaderVentressMaulVitiateRevanNihilusTheres more than a few statements that directly tell us the Rule of Two worked and that every single Sith from Darth Bane (stated to be one of the strongest Sith ever up to his time) onward was stronger than the last, culminating in Palpatine being the most powerful Sith in history. Theres other statements like Qui-Gon is said to be one of the ordest greatest Jedi in history and got killed by Maul. Old Republic era simply cannot stack up to the movie eras. Saying this as someone who hates Maul and loves Revan btw
>>738012126Americans live in disneyland
>>738025173I like the pike that Disney Darth Bane has. It’s a good in between
>>738011079No. The emperor killed him with a force explosion that didn’t even singe a single strand on the emperor’s robe>>738011176He was referring the Foundry flashpoint where Revan was killed by a group of like two to four level 30 imperials.
>>738025656Going from a big guy 4 you in parasitic bug armor and a dooku style curved lightsaber to this mook tier looking reject is such a sadness
>>738025392>Darth Bane (stated to be one of the strongest Sith ever up to his time)Kek cucky Bane gets RAPED and GAPED by like 10 sith lords that came before him.
>>738025309Decades of material set a bit after ROTJ involves Leia understanding that her bloodline is strong with the Force and she should learn to use it better. Disney threw out most of that so they can say less than nothing happened over more than 30 years.
>>737997875>stoic white god emperor rules over the galaxy with a stern but fair handwhats the problem
Really the top 3 sith are>eu vitiate the sith emperor at 1>nihilus the void at 2>sheev big pp Palpatine at 3
>>738025771I like it. It feels like an ancient version of Vaders armor and as Vaders armor is supposed to be a Sith design it’s got a nice callback to it.
>Timestops>Casts instant death that bypasses all defenses and immunities
>>738025901It looks like what you'd expect the siths guards to look like. Its so uber generic it actually hurts to look at. You can find that same mask as a gear reward from a low level tortanic mission.
>>738025436Disneyland is like the "Temple" of American hedonism. Like the cube of mecca or the Vatican. Each one located on the different coasts
>>738025861Isn't Plagueis stronger than sheev? >b-b-but muh naptimeI mean in a one on one can palpatine really win?
>>737997529>Kids that trained for a month, struggle to do 1/50 of what Yoda does>Stronger than sith lord, because they just are okay?Give me autistic fan Wookiepedia shit, it's better than Disney's nonsense they pull out of their ass.
>>738025996no
>>737997358>tfw you are level 4 but defeat lvl 6do levels even matter? just have friends
>>738025996Who?
>>738027394When did Revan ever beat Nihilus?
>>738026605i feel like at some point around 12ish years ago in internet culture, it became faux pas to argue over power level wankery, but then it became fashoinable again to argue about power scale. occuring sometime after covid or around thenmaybe isekai getting uber popular had something to do with it, or zoomies going full unashamed weeb and rediscovering millenial anime staples
Revan, Bane and Plagueis are the holy trinity of overrated and overwanked sith lords. These frauds are not that strong.
>>73799735811/10, better than what's possibly in the setting.
>>737997358Did an Indian make this?
>>738025656Why does he look like a samurai?
>>737997358>>737997529>Naruto fans have taken an eternal vow to never acknowledge Boruto as canon, and they don't buy anything with Boruto's name>Star Wars fags are cucked enough to let Disney dictate canonEveryday I'm thankful to not have grown up on Sonic, Disney and Star Wars.
>>738033854Wut? If anything Star Wars fans are way more vocal about to not accepting Disney canon.
>>738006904What was vaders punishment going to be for losing to Luke?
>>738033854I took the opportunity to throw out anything retarded I didn’t like that Leland Chee did.
>>737997716>regardless, he's not even canon so it doesn't mattermore canon than yidsney wars.
>>737997358Start at 1 get up to 4 maybe 5.
>>738036463replacement. And palpatine could pick from luke AND Leia
