>One billion ww2 games>None of them let you play as the Chinese (Nationalists) despite making up 50% of the deaths in the war
I think I saw a trailer for a WW2 Chinese FPS a while ago... Obviously Japanese devs would never touch the subject/
>>737999854what, a heroin drug empire game or something?
>>738000235That was the Qing before them.
>>737999854I know it's cheating, but HoI4
I'd actually love that. I've always been weak to chinese shit since i grew up on modern martial art flicks
>>737999854The Chinese went through the same terrible conditions that the Soviets did, like sending men with no uniform or weapons to the front.Also, Kai-Shek doesn't get nearly enough heat for what he did. Blowing the dams along the Yellow River to slow the Japanese advance likely killed more people than the Holocaust. The jewish numbers, not the actual one.>>738000341This, although I will say, playing as China really sucks. You don't get to do any of the cool things like navies, planes or tanks, because all you have is a few factories and endless manpower.And it's also really funny when you look at the map of how far real life Japan got towards occupying China and realize that they did worse than what the Japan AI will ever do against China AI. Japan never got even close to defeating the Chinese in a real capacity, they'd have lost the war to them even if they had another 20 years to get bogged down in continental China.
>>737999854Because you either have to play as the Japanese or the nationalists>Play as Japanese>Chinese seethe and call you evil>Play as nationalists>The CCP hates the nationalists and considers them le nazis (they were the good guys) so they seethe as well>Play as the communists>Do nothing all day in the mountains waiting for the nationalists to get weak so you can back stab them and take over the country and kill everyone
>tfw no chinese jesus game where you zerg rush with millions of chinese
>>737999854only china would make a game about china's perspective and they won't do that because they're trying to scrub away that part of their history since the nationalists were opposed to the communists
>>738000536>The Chinese went through the same terrible conditions that the Soviets did, like sending men with no uniform or weapons to the front.And yet there are many games that let you play as the soviets.
>>737999854It would be pretty unfun>get fucked hard by European powers>succeed in national reunification >the domestic populace starts to strongly resent you>get fucked hard by the Japanese >Western powers that were just raping your country turn around and use you as a meat sponge to soak up Japan's resources with the promise of helping you out in the future >get blown the fuck out by the communists in the civil war despite all your foreign backing>run away to some teeny little island>seethe impotently for decades
>>738000567because russia is proud of that part of their history, china is not
>>738000575>>get blown the fuck out by the communists in the civil war despite all your foreign backingIt's the opposite. The US stopped all trade with the nationalists after WW2 literally preventing any new aid while Russia was sending the CCP billions in aid (The nationalists used up all their men and resources fighting the Japanese). This is why the commies won in the end despite losing the civil war up until the end.
>>737999854If China made some high production value CoD type "fuck yeah China" game set during the war I'd play it, even with the mandatory Mao cocksucking that'd go into it. Sounds like it could be kino.
>One factor in military budget waste included that troop counts were inflated above actual head counts and that officers embezzled the salaries of the non-existent soldiers.I'm going to take Chiang's casualty numbers with a grain of salt.
>>738000650Don't forget Russia had Chiang Kai-shek's kid so he started feeding his armies to Mao piece mill so Stalin would give his son back.
>>738000650What the fuck are you on about? The US strongly supported the KMT with materiel and even sent a marine force to occupy a large swath of land and directly engage with the PLA at points
>>738000575As much as I dislike China and the CCP, the creation mythos surrounding PRC is straight out of a hero's tale.>almost destroyed in battle>The Long March for almost a decade>set up base in a place so remote that not even the Central government cared to do anything about it>unite with Nationalists to fight against a common enemy, win>time to finish the fight with Nationalists>Kai-Shek had every possible conceivable advantage. A proper army, an air-force, a navy, foreign help. The USSR didn't give Mao almost anythng>they promised free lunch to every Chinese person they found until they had more people than the Nationalists>they championed objectively good concepts like The Eight Points of Attention>actually won the civil war and forced the world to acknowledge them as the real China, replacing the Nationalists on the UN security councilIt's probably one of the coolest stories for a modern country's foundation.
>>738000882Until the minute WW2 ended then America stopped all support and trade with the nationalists.At the same time the soviet Unions sent billions of dollars worth of equipment to the communists to attack the weakened nationalists.Everything I am saying is basic well known historical facts.Do they not tell you this in China? I'm sorry to hear Chang.
>>738000918Except the part where the communists waited in the mountains for the nationalists to get weakened then used billions of dollars of soviet equipment to steamroll the nationalists who just saved the country from Japan but wasn't allowed any more equipment.
>>738000950It's actually the reverse, Stalin didn't offer nearly as much support to Mao as Kai-Shek received from the US.
>>738001003You are a lying commie faggot.The moment WW2 ended so did the support from the west while it was the start of the support from the soviet union.
>>738000950>Until the minute WW2 ended then America stopped all supportHow do you explain the occupation of china that lasted until 1949?
>>737999854Easy Red 2
>>738000918Yes, backstabbing the people who used all their men and resources to save the country from the Japanese in order to make the worst famine in history is very historic. Backstabbing and hiding is very historic.
>>738001000>>738001017That's not exactly what happened. Towards the end of WWII, the USSR declared war on Japan and invaded Japanese-occupied Manchuria with their countless armored divisions and steamrolled it.They turned over all the captured guns, factories and land to Mao, but they did very little to help after that.
>>737999854>None of themAnon, I...
Aren’t there like upcoming Chinese COD-esque games that take place during sino-Chinese war
>>737999854No no!THAT'S THE MULTIPLAYER MODE!CHINKS DYING BY THE BILLIONS KILLSTREAK FAGGOT!
>>738001000>>738001069After the war, KMT begins recruit Japanese
>>738001214>>738001069>>738001047>>738001003>>738001000>>738000950>Arms shipments and other supplies (1946–1949): Direct transfers of Soviet-made or additional captured weapons occurred, along with some training and advisers. Historians cite varying monetary values based on Soviet/Chinese archival sources:>One estimate for arms shipments: 886 million rubles (excluding 1945–46 transfers).>Lower figures from other Chinese historians (Shen Zhihua et al.): ~93 million rubles (1947), 151 million (1948), 205 million (1949).>Using rough contemporary exchange rates (often cited around 4 rubles per USD in such contexts), this suggests roughly $100–250 million in arms value from 1947 onward, though exact conversion is imprecise due to controlled economies and varying pricing ($2.5 to $6 billion today)Faggot commies always lie.So the CCP got $6 billion in modern equipment while the KMT was cut off.
>>738001138with alternative history statement of "this is how we totally did not lose rape of nanjing." kek
>>738001243On the otherhand>The United States suspended military aid to the Chinese Nationalists (Kuomintang/KMT) during the Chinese Civil War from July 29, 1946, until May 1947. This embargo was instituted by President Truman to pressure Chiang Kai-shek into negotiating with the Communists.So again, why commies always fucking lie?
>>738001286>While the Embargo ended the US still largely stood back
>>738001259Reminds me of this
>>738001286>This embargo was instituted by President Truman to pressure Chiang Kai-shek into negotiating with the Communists.Hull note was American ultimatum
>>738000918>t.
>>738001387The Hull Note was about Japan.
>>738001386>2 gajillion dead>strategic Chong victoryWhy are the Chinese like this?
>>738001243That was honestly not much, it was a token amount.The amount of hardware that Kai-Shek had in his hands was overwhelmingly superior. He had fucking bombers while Mao had improvised factories for making bad rifles. You made it sound like the communists had armored divisions, when in reality they barely had uniforms.Mao did not win the Chinese civil war with hardware, he did it by converting the civilian population to communism. When he took over land, he immediately proceeded to free the common people(who were still largely living in serfdom) and gave them the land they already worked on. And treated them well, and paid for food and lodging.People heard the news of this across China and moved to their cause in droves. And they knew that if Mao lost, they'd be thrown back into serfdom.Kai-Shek lost the war because nobody wanted to live in Nationalist China, just like how White Russians lost their civil war because not a single person living in the Russian Empire liked it.
>>737999854Due to insane CCP censorship very few Chinese actually know much about ww2 They know Japan invaded China but very little else unless it's about evil things Japan did.
>>738001510>$6 billion in modern equipment during a time when both sides are technically behind isn't muchRetard commie post
>>738001576The average Chinese person probably knows more about that period than the average Western person. They most certainly know about things like the long march.
>>738001510What a long post to spout retarded ccp propaganda after getting prove wrong.Far more people would want to live in nationist china than what china would be like under Mao
>>738001629Their education warps things. For example the CCP make up historical events during WW2 that never happened, change the numbers around or downplay certain events or just don't mention them.The CCP don't tell their people how Russian support was crucial for the CCP victory as an example.
>>738001463tiny penis mindset, not an alpha chad grindset that only accepts As or S grades.
>>738001463It's called winning.I don't expect Europeans to understand considering how 99% of wars are the same ten countries fighting with no actual resolution.
>>738001713>source: just trust me bro
>>738001629More like brainwashing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDRUkswvpoM
>>738001681>Far more people would want to live in nationist china than what china would be like under MaoIt's amazing how somebody can say something that flies against every historical fact so shamelessly.
>>737999854Honestly a WW2 game where you butcher slant-eyed Jap invaders as a based Chinaman would go hard.
>>738001626Every account of the time says that red china was using improvised equipment against a superior adversary.You're the one who's a retard. Do you think 6 billion USD in converted values is a lot of money, in the context of a war? They were using most of that money just to run the piece of the country they already owned.>>738001681You really, really, really underestimate how shitty life was for an average person living in China in the 1940s. Communism is a hell of an upgrade for a populace living in serfdom.>>738001713Before you lambast them too hard, remember that you're not allowed to question the 6 Million jewish deaths in the west, either. Every country lies about what happened in WWII.
>>738001821>Every country lies about what happened in WWII.Reminder that more Germans should have been killed no matter what the number actually is.
>>738001790Chinks are slant-eyed too, where my Korean war games?
Most intresting theaters in world war 2 are ignored in favor of normandy wank in FPS. Pacific sometimes gets a looking. But good luck seeing Poland, France, or like half of the fights in East Europe. Though I can understand why people skip Italy since the allies getting repeatedly clowned on by a opponent that is basically fighting with two hands behind their back is kind of silly.
>>738001867seething slavtroon
>>738001821>Is 200 billion a lot?Yes? Are you fucking retarded?
>>738001987>Noooooo! You have to be able to start a war of extermination without consequences.A single german still being alive is a mercy, and I'm not even a Slav. As a dutch person I can say without issue that half of Germany should have been given to other people, if not more.
>>738001091By games OP meant cawadoody
>>738001463The Tang that were besiedged were loyal until death, and their refual to give up the city led to the subsequent downfall of the rebel forces later since they lost 1/3 of their army trying to take one town. But I mean the whole story is deranged I don't get it either. They ate all the animals first. Horses. Pets. Rats. Insects. Then the old. Then the young. Somewhere in between the women. They held out tho. Quite remarkable. I'd never have such loyalty to a governing body that's for sure. Eat my parents and children? Nah I'm turning over to the whoever lets me and my family live.
>>738001867>ESL hue hand
>>738001243>>738001286If the US ended any and all support how do you explain the US marine occupation of china that lasted until 1949?
>>738002031>ESLYes, you, kraut.
>>738001867People act is Germany was the only country who acted moraly bankrupt. The British entered the war and dragged the entire world with them over Poland, just to leave the poles in Stalin's hands. When everyone at the time already acknowledged that Hitler and Stalin had partitioned Poland. And after polish exiles died fighting to protect the British.It is the British who didn't die in sufficient numbers, not the Germans.>>738001996Read that post again. It's 200 Million at the time, or 6 Billion today. It's not a whole lot of money for a war. A single US navy escort ship carries that much in missiles alone.
>>738002046>Embargo and stop sending equipment>B-BUT THERE WERE A FEW MARINESlol commie cope
>>738001821>Every account of the timeYes from the CCP.On the other hand the reality is that the nationalists weren't getting any supplies while Russia was giving China billions in modern equipment right as the nationalists spent all theirs against the Japanese.CCP shill got caught lying and is now moving the goalpost
>>738002078>6 billion isn't a lot in a war>6 billion in modern equipment when neither side had much modern equipment at allLol commie cope and lies after getting proven wrong.All commies can do is lie.
>>738002012oh so you're one of those retards who thinks events like 'the rape of belgium' actually happened, so still a troon all the same
>>738001821>Communism is a hell of an upgrade for a populace living in serfdom.Communism is death. Specificly for the chinese that "upgraded" they got to starve to death rather than be bossed around by a Lord. You're mental, and retarded.
>>738001821>60 million dead and economic depression is good compared to slow steady economic gains under the nationalistsSo you admit you are just a retarded commie.
>>738002012>seething this hard over something you weren't alive to see 80 years agoCan only be a jew. Stay buttblasted.
Oh wow we have literal communist shills itt
>>737999854No one wants to play as the bugmen
The Chinese still seethe at the nationalists to this day so no we ain't getting a game
I don't really hate any peoples inherently apart from Indians and jews and generally wish good health on the middle class. Will the CCP ever get upended? Is it possible to replace them with something less terrible?
>>738002078>People act is Germany was the only country who acted morally bankrupt. All European society has been morally bankrupt for literal centuries. What sets the Germans apart isn't being hypocritical, or violent, or stupid. It's the insane barbarousness they displayed. They acted in every regard like the most stereotypical barbarous horde imaginable. Up to and including reorienting their entire economy around loot and plunder and waging wars of genocide. It's akin to having a group of people playing Poker, each one trying to cheat and screw over the other, only to have one of the people there pull out a gun and rape a toddler while daring everybody else to stop them. >t is the British who didn't die in sufficient numbers, not the Germans.British deserved to lose their empire for their crimes, and they did. Germans deserved to be wiped out as a people for the total lack of character they showed.
>>737999854>there is an alternate universe where the KMT didn't go full retard and you had the equivalent of Taiwan stretched across the mainlandImagine
>>737999854Because the entire world will appease Japan and tiptoe around the issue.
>>738002182>Rape of BelgiumWhy should I care about Belgium?Germans invaded my country. Why should I not see that paid for in blood and land? A single Dutch man is worth a million Germans.
>>737999854A Far Cry style Northern Expedition game where you have to take down one warlord after another would be pretty kino.Also generalissimo cash-my-check had some pretty sweet rides.
>>738002128I don't even like communism or the CCP, I'm stating the truth. Someone posted the numbers here already, it wasn't billions(for the money at the time). It was little more than token help.>>738002158Go look up the real values. Even without further gibs from uncle sam, Kai-Shek had overwhelming material advantage, on top of being in charge of a central government. Calling Nationalist China "centralized" in any manner is a stretch but you get the idea.>>738002210>>738002239They didn't know that at a time. What they knew was life as indentured servants for dozens of generations, and then suddenly owning the land they lived and worked with. Yes, today we knows communism = bad but, for the people at the time, it was an enormous upgrade.I hate China, they are the worst thing in our planet today. But I don't let that blind me to the truth. The PRC exists because they earned their place in history, and because Mao was a genius. Terrible later, but a genius at winning the civil war.>60 million dead and economic depression is goodYou forget that we're talking about rural China. Famine with millions of dead is just something that happened every other decade.>slow steady economic gains under the nationalistsNationalist China came to be after the Qing dynasty fell, it was supposed to be a temporary dictatorship with the goal is stablishing democratic rule in China. They had like 40 years to do that, but the truth is that Kai-Chek had no intention of instating democracy or improving live for the population. Nationalist China was was not going to get better, even in hindsight.
>>738002402>china is a paper tiger>russia is a paper bear>usa is a paper eagleWhy none of the modern nations is capable of waging a real war anymore? Everyone is fucking incompetent and retarded, what a joke
>>737999854Because there's really no way you can either have a game where the nationalists are heroic af and not piss off China, or have them look like complete idiots for trusting western powers again where Mao is laughing his ass off in the sideline and watched his rival send his army off to die which would piss Taiwan and US off.
>>737999854>Press X to not get raped by the JapaneselollmaoAlso>despite making up 50% of the deaths in the warMillions of Chinese are dying at any moment of history, their population is just that big
>>738002665I like the assumption that old nations were "good" at fighting warfare.The most competent nation in European history was probably France under Napoleon, and they lost. Even Rome spend like 90% of the second punic war getting the shit kicked out of them.
>not one mention of Easy Red 2, Shanghai/Nanking DLC.
>>738002632This is such an unhinged post I don't even know where to begin. I don't even understand what you are trying to say actually. I'll admit I might be part of this problem but we will probably never see eye to eye on this so I'm out.
>>738001713H-haha! Yeah, what kind of monster would change the number of deaths to,let's say, around six million, to make themselves look better and justify a bunch of other shitThat would be crazy!
>>738002810>H-haha! Yeah, what kind of monster would change the number of deaths to,let's say, around six million, to make themselves look better and justify a bunch of other shitNeo Nazis are scum, yes.
>>738002665The rules we created for ourselves in order to wage war make it extremely difficult for a country to pursue war. You can't even blow up bridges and petrol infrastructure anymore or else it's a war crime.You forget that WWII was carried out by formations of aluminium clouds that blocked the sun and firebombed cities with the explicit goal of murdering civilians.Look up what a B-17 looks like. Now picture 600+ of them flying in formation, while escorted by 600 fighters. That was just an ordinary Tuesday in 1943.
>>738002780Sorry nobody on this board plays good games.
>>738002593that's just the sort of thing that western euros cry about when seething about germany, or how awful occupation of france was(it was like a golden era compared to allied occupation), lmao you call it a war of extermination but there was no such thing as a dutch genocide. you seem to have no issue with jews turning your country into an international brothel though
>>737999854because ccp won't allow any descriptions of that period where the whole China wasn't under their control as their official history says
>>738000918Retard.
>>73800208950,000 marines is insignificant?
>>738002830>You can't even blow up bridges and petrol infrastructure anymore or else it's a war crime.Aren't they blowing up water plants and oil fields in the camel jockey states right now?
The old will die, and the younger will forget.
>>738002846>(it was like a golden era compared to allied occupatioOpposite world. Literally everybody cheered and partied when the Axis was defeated. Meanwhile, German occupation was founded on mass looting, pillaging, rape, and destruction of property.>call it a war of extermination but there was no such thing as a dutch genocidThere was a attempt at Dutch cultural genocide and several campaigns of mass murder that killed countless Dutch men and women.>you seem to have no issue with jews turning your country into an international brothel thoughI've seen what you claim Jewish occupation looks like, and I've seen what German occupation looks like. German genocide is a gift from god.
>>738002864>Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice Israel is willing to make
>>7380026326 billion in modern equipment isn't token help, especially when the enemy is getting no aid and used up all their resources fighting the japanese
>>738002864They didn't fight for the nationalists and they didn't provide aid to them either. Commie cope
>>738002927>German occupation was founded on mass looting, pillaging, rape, and destruction of property.sad you are so deeply brainwashed and mentally disturbed
>>738001821>>738002810>china criticized>but uhh... JEWS! JEEEEWS!Every fucking time with you bugs. Get a new script already.
>>738003105>longnose playing the victimEvery time
>>738003096I've literally lived here. I grew up with stories from actually people telling actual horror stories about their childhood. Not Jews either, actual Dutch people.If you want a counter story, my Grandmother remembers the war "Well, it happened over there but I was mostly fine in the countryside." Even then it was basically seen as understood that if you went out after dark the Nazis would shoot you to death just to be safe.
>>738002906Iran did it because they don't even pretend to believe in the concept of war crimes. It's not like the rest of the world could possibly sanction them harder, and their situation can't get worse. Not when uncle sam is bombing them.But the US can't retaliate in kind. The truth is that, right now, Iran is undergoing a a hydric crisis of apocalyptic proportions. Unless Tehran can fix the issue, they are looking down at the possibility of having to be forced to evacuate their capital in a few years because there won't be water for everyone.If the US bombed Iran's water infrastructure, they could easily kill 80%+ of the Iranian population in a matter of weeks/months, but they can't. Not even Trump would do it.>>738002927>Opposite world. Literally everybody cheered and partied when the Axis was defeated. Meanwhile, German occupation was founded on mass looting, pillaging, rape, and destruction of property.There are statements going both ways. A lot of people in occupied France were very okay with German occupation. People forget that, in the 1930s and 40s, Fascism was really popular everywhere, not just in Germany and Italy.>>738002960It is. Get educated.>>738003105I'm not a chink or even asian. But the argument is perfectly valid, you can't say it's not. You can't one-sidely criticize the CCP for obscuring facts from WWII when every western nation enshrines the Holocaust as some world-ending event. And unlike the Chinese, the truth isn't held back from you by a Big Red Firewall. People willingly choose to blindly believe in the six gorillions.
>>738003186>>738003105The CCP is the most sensitive yet evil government on earth>Murders 50 million peopleBut also>NOOOOOO DON'T SAY MEAN HURTFUL WORDS
>>738000210wasn't that all Communist in that game?
>>738003227>A lot of people in occupied France were very okay with German occupation.Traitors who were selling out their country, yes. Most of them were unanimously hated by everybody else. You will always have opportunists looking to exploit the rest for money.>Fascism was really popular everywhere, not just in Germany and Italy.Most fascists in France were anti German. The only people that actually supported the German occupation were traitors selling out their countrymen for money and Petain fanboys.
>>738003227>No argumentThe CCP was losing the civil war right up until the Japanese invaded where the KMT had to divert to the Japanese. Then when the KMT was running out of supplies the CCP attacked with billions in new equipment while the KMT was barred from new equipment. This is literally why the CCP won.You are a commie faggot who got caught lying again and again in the thread.
>>738003269>smallhat>calling anyone evil
>>738001821>Being dead is better than not being nationalist
>>738003439Yes, apparently.
>>738003402The jews actively supported the CCP. They were crucial in funding the CCP and the only foreigners in the CCP were jews.The CCP was a jewish project.
Nazism was God's ironic yet divine punishment to the continent who killed, looted and enslaved "lesser" people for their own gain.Europe sowed the wind, and now the whirlwind is coming to reap.
>>738003520Pretty much. Fitting considering the Germans are Huns genetically.
>>738003520If it weren't for europe the rest of the world would still be in huts.
>>738003476>The CCP was a jewish project.Just more proof that Jews are the master race.
>>738003520>Europe sowed the wind, and now the whirlwind is coming to reap.
>>738003520>None whites kill each other by the hundreds of millions >This is ok>Whites do it too>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>738003582>China>Central American>North Africa>Middle EastIf it wasn't for Asia descended Romans conquering Western Europe, they would still be living in caves. The only people they arguably got out of Huts were Africans and Aboriginals in places like New Zealand and Australia. Which... did you ever consider they might have been happier in huts?
>>737999854Jews unironically think it's antisemitic to mention non-Jewish victims of WW2. They recently threw a hissy fit about some museum devoted to Soviets in nazi labor camps. Only Jews are allowed to be remembered
>>738003314Here, I went and asked Gemini for you. Kai-Shek received 1.6 billion USD over WW2. By the way, this is not a converted value, it's 1.6b in 1930s/40s money, compared to the 200 million the CCP received.You make it sound like the Nationalists were devastated by the end, but that wasn't true at all. The chinese army after the Japanese surrendered was considerably stronger than they were before the war. The allies were funneling enough not just to keep Kai-Shek in the fight, but to expand his forces. The army that the CCP "defeated" was not a ragtag, underfunded bunch. They were battle hardened.You're the one who's lying. The CCP did not have close to "billions".>>738003439Again, the people at the time had no way of knowing. What they did know was that being free was a whole lot better than being a serf.
>>737999854play what? getting onesidedly raped and killed in nanjing? lmao
>>738003615>None whites kill each other by the hundreds of millionsOnly in places like China.>>Whites do it tooWhites also killed millions of their own. Sounds like a valid reason to bring down gods judgement if they kill each other and others.
>>738003520Europeans seethe because they're a dying people. Their empires are long gone, they're not the leading force on technology and science anymore, they have been weakened to the bone like the japs. The people they shat on all their history (Muslims, Chinese, etc) are now taking their place, surpassing them and even keeping western culture more alive than Europeans themselvesThis was predicted by Oswald Spengler. There's nothing new or strange about it. He said when the colored races learn how to make the technology themselves, Europeans will be cooked since they'd have nothing else to offer the world, and that's what we're witnessing todayEurope is a terminal patient, a theme park for tourists. Whether this is for good or for bad, that's another question. But Europe is indeed the old worldI suggest every european fantasizing with a revolution™ a new reconquista™, etc to read Don Quixote. Because that's the main point of the work: a senile old man wanting to fight with enemies who are no longer there, for a lost cause, and who ends dead in absolute humiliation and disgrace
>>737999854Easy Red 2 has an entire campaign for the fighting in China. This game wont blow your mind but its worth the asking price. Touches upon a lot more obscure corners of WW2.
>>738003697Pretty much. Europe is finished. It died during world war 1 and everybody has just been deciding if they should bury the corpse, keep pretending it's dead, or shoot it at somebody in the hopes of getting as many people infected. The only thing Europeans arguably had to offer people was it's values (Democracy, enlightenment, equality) and like half of Europe decided things were actually better in 1700 socially. So that isn't going anywhere.
>>7380036731.6 billion of good that got wasted by incompetent generals. They stopped shipping to china when it was obvious the commies got more of it that the chinese.
>>738000550daily reminder the CCP only exists and won its war to conquer china was two literal gay commie double agents spent their entire assignment for the CIA in their hotel room fudgepacking, with short breaks to tell washington lies about how "poorly" kai shek was doing, causing the us to stop supplying them, which caused them to lose.gay faggots are literally to blame for communist china existing.gay communist faggot russian agents pretending to work for the cia.
>>738003673>Here, I went and asked Gemini for you. Kai-Shek received 1.6 billion USD over WW2And they fought the Japanese. All that was used in the war.Chinese got hundreds of millions after WW2 when the KMT used up their supplies.You are a lying yellow commie who first said this didn't happen then when caught lying you started moving the goalpost.
>>738003839>was I'm going to stop you here.Any historical opinion that relies on "X only happened because of Y" is wrong by default.
>>738003816They stopped because they wanted both sides to come to peace.Why do commie shills only lie?
>>738003926You literally got proven lying and got BTFO and now you make cope
>>738003926ok bolshevik.
So the commie argument was>America didn't stop supporting the KMT (they did)>Russia didn't give the CCP billions in equipment (They did)>Well uh it doesn't matter because communism is better (It wasn't)>SHUT UP THE KMT IS EVIL UNLIKE THE CCP WHO ONLY KILLED 50 MILLION PEOPLE EXCEPT THEY DIDN'T THAT IS HECKIN LIES
>>738003930Commie shill? Im pointing out how bad the chinaman is at warfare
>>738003210>Not Jews either, actual Dutch people.I'm well aware of the fact that 100 years ago everyone hated each other passionately but that plays into the lies and blatant dishonesty back and forth. oh those evil Germans I hate them so much, everyone knows they'll shoot you for no reason on sight, well no it didn't happen to me and it didn't happen to anyone I know personally, but... just trust me bro they're fucking evil! because I hate them! pure nonsense
>>738003958>Got proven wrongWhere?
>>738004141>hated each other passionatelyNobody had a issue with Germans in the Netherland until they brutally invaded us and started doing a cultural genocide. This isn't France and Germany, who actually had valid reasons to hate each other. It's not even Belgium and Germany, who at least had world war 1 to create bad blood. There was zero bad blood between Germany and the Netherlands until Germany decided to try and wipe our country off the map out of malice and cruelty.
>>738004162Your pathetic commie cope >>738000882>>738000650>>738001003>>738001047But you were wrong. America stopped supporting the KMT after WW2 while the Russians DID support the Chinese.The commies won due to this.
>>738001069>>738000918Holy smokes, do you look like that?
>>738004231>Mention like a dozen reasons for why this other anon is wrong>None of those change the fact it wasn't just because of one cause.>Russians DID support the Chinese.Stalin actually tried to get the CCP to stop since he wanted a divided China.
>>738000918>the creation mythos surrounding PRC is straight out of a hero's tale.That's because it is a mythos - emphasis on myth - and has been lied about consistently for a century. You're likely a tankie who has fallen for memes.>The Long March for almost a decadeIt wasn't almost a decade.>unite with Nationalists to fight against a common enemy, winThere was no unity. Both sides expected to fight one another and did not unify to any serious degree.>Kai-Shek had every possible conceivable advantage.Wrong. The KMT were a fucking trainwreck.>USSR didn't give Mao almost anythngYou have no idea about this period at all, clearly. Did you forget about Manchuria?>they championed objectively good concepts like The Eight Points of AttentionNot even going to address this one. Embarrassing.>forced the world to acknowledge them as the real China, replacing the Nationalists on the UN security councilForced the world? After failing numerous votes, they got Somalia and a bunch of Soviet puppets to force a vote in the general assembly with U.S support in 1971. It was dumb luck that the Americans were dumb enough to not block the vote.
How do Chinese cope with the fact they would be wealthy today their grandparents wouldn't have died of they stayed with the nationalists?
>>738003697>Evrope is finishedIt's over
>>738004312You literally said lies and got disproven and now trying to move the goalpost AGAIN
>>738004341NTA, but:>It wasn't almost a decade.Hilarious cope.>There was no unity.There was enough unity for the two to largely stop shooting at each other.>Wrong. The KMT were a fucking trainwreck.The KMT can be a trainwreck and also they can have every advantage.>Did you forget about Manchuria?Genuinely pretty empty and largely in ruins.>After failing numerous votes, they got Somalia and a bunch of Soviet puppets to force a vote in the general assembly with U.S support in 1971Very serious Spongebob "Plankton cheated" energy.
>>738004379>You1: Not that anon. 2: You literally posted a lie, pointed out it's a lie, and are now claiming I'm lying. Stop this 1984 bedroom roleplaying session if you want to be taken seriously.
>>738004451>From Manchuria Russia gave China 700,000 riffles, 300 tanks, control of the region on top of also giving them around 6 billion dollars of soviet equipmentWow 300 tanks and almost a million riffles are nothing!Faggot commie
The angry guy is replying to someone else thinking it's me.Anyway, this discussion is rather pointless. Because the CCP did not win the soviet civil war by confronting the Nationalist army.Let me paint a picture for you:Imagine you are a dude somewhere in Northern China in 1946. You are a serf, your wife is a serf, your kids are all bound to the land. Your parents were they same and their parents before them, too. Nobody in your family has ever learned how to read.In your village, the only people with guns are the landowners and their goons. Those guns are often pointed at you and your family, to make sure you work and don't try to leave. Then, one day, men in uniform come to your village. This is never a good thing.But these men claim to be something called "communists", saying that they fight to liberate people. The landowners and their goons are rounded up, quickly trialed and hanged. These men then come to your house and you expect the worse. But instead, they say you own the land now. "It was always yours, these people were just oppressing you."The soldiers stay at your house and eat your food, but they are actually PAYING you for it. They didn't hit you or rape your wife, either.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Rules_of_Discipline_and_Eight_Points_for_AttentionThis has never happened to you before, but it's a good thing, you think.You talk to the soldiers and find out that there was a war with Japan, and that war is over. But now there is another war with the government because they want to make "communism" go away.Now, you were just some guy living in Northern China, the war had nothing to do with you up until now. But these people came and freed you and your family. This means that you now have a vested interest in communism winning, otherwise the "government" is going to force you back into serfdom.And that's how Kai-Shek lost. Not because the CCP fought harder, but because they had infinitely better PR.
>>738004494>Commie get's disproven>Claims he isn't that commie>Claims historical facts are wrong
>>738004341>The KMT were a fucking trainwreck.Now that's an understatement but it all went to shit when Sun Yat-Sen died. They were barely functional when it was just the incompetent warlords and equally moronic Qing dynasty are at the helm.
>>738004513>Wow 300 tanks and almost a million riffles are nothing!Anon, the Japs had a fuck ton more and they lost.
>>738004525Yes the Soviets gave the CCP billions in equipment while the KMT got nothing and that is why the CCP won. Your fan fiction is pathetic.
>>738004563>Doublethink
>>738004584Because the japs had to deal with America as well as China.The CCP got billions in equipment. That is why they won
>>737999854because WW2 in modern perception is what Yankees said it was and what it was for themWW2 had more than Eastern and Western front's>War in China>Atlantic theatre>Indonesia and Philipines>Whole Thailand flipfloping shitshow>smaller Axis powers like Hungary not nessesary liking HitlerAnd Interwar years Were even more interesting. Or fuck even Right afther pre war. Shit did not end afther Hiroshima. >Indonesia Duch conflict>Malay Emergency>Korean War>wars in colonies in Africa>Soviets cleaniang up their new Vassal States>CCP invading TibetThere is a lot of Potential
>>738004525>the soviet civil warThey didn't win that because that conflict never happened outside of Red Alert games.
>>738004563You sound like you are emotionally invested in this argument
>>738003710say I don't want to play multiplayer, does the singleplayer hold up? can I make custom scenarios like with Arma?
>>738004525>blah blah marxist propagandaChina hadn't had serfdom in decades by the late 1940s, retard.
>>738004662>>738004630>States factually wrong statements>Get disproven>Pretend you never said them >Get shown the posts>Doubles downWhy are commies like this?
>>738004642>Because the japs had to deal with America as well as China.Anon, they didn't have to deal with America until about six years into the war.>That is why they wonNo, they won because they got billions of equipment AND the KMT was a complete hot mess AND the Japanese invasion heavily damaged the KMT AND genuine competence on the part of Mao and other communist generals. It's never just one thing, idiot.
>>738004662>>738004642Commies gave up even trying to argue and are now making shitposts like this
>>738004642>>738004603Gentlemen, we are arguing with a literal bot here. He keeps repeating the "billions" despite the fact we already posted several times proof that it didn't reach anywhere near that amount.>>738004661I misstyped it, I meant chinese.
>>738004723>America isn't why Japan lostHoly fucking COPEGod damn you ARE a CCP shill
>>738004701>Stats arguments he didn't state>Had the arguments I didn't state get disproven>Claimed I never did them>But also uses that as a justification for why I did state them1984.
>>738004603>>738004642KMT was a Corrupt shitshow and Chiang Kai Shek wnting to micronmanage everything did not help. Remember how one US general called him "General Cash My Checks"And Chinese communists Bassicaly got a huge boost afther USSR gave them Manchuria.
>>738004739>>738004758>Commie lies>Get's disproven>Now claims everyone else is a bot
>>738001463they do be like that https://youtu.be/W7ksx6D3dlE?si=Eyy3Q2HXXRoobQ5p
>>738004770>Corrupt shitshowUnlike the CCP who killed 50 million people in incompetence and corruption
>>738004739I'm aware, I just thought it was funny.Frankly the main thing everybody forgets about the Chinese civil war is that the Reds and the KMT were just one of the many factions and warlords involved. They won in teh end and the conflict is largely framed as the communists vs everybody else, but it really isn't. Calling it a civil war helps in that regard because it instantly makes braindead Americans think of a straightforward south vs north divide. And not, say, Game of Thrones (Which is probably what it actually was).
>>738004525You're also forgetting the roving warlords and equally opportunistic bandit warbands roaming the countryside while the KMT are held up in the south along the coasts. The main governing body under the Beiyang administration is too busy playing pocket billiards while Mao and co are running through the country like guerilla fighters. You also have the clique autism that was rampant during this time where entire sections of the country were carved up like the modern take on the Three Kingdoms era with shitty guns.
>>738004758>>738004739>>738004662>>738004630Commies got objectively proven wrong then they act like faggots and try to throw random insults.
>>737999854Chinese deaths were mostly just starving civilians. There actual combat losses were a fraction of the soviets, in fact i think they were even significantly less than Germany’s
>>738004756America IS why Japan lost but if Japan could have bulldozed China they would have done so. The fact they were forced into a insanely extended and costly war is part of the reason why America got involved. >>738004774"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancel out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink."
>>738004821CCP shill, why do you act like this when proven that you lied?
>>738004795never said they were not. Both sides can be corrupt shitshows. But one just won. Corruption is something that's Very engrained in China. even before the Qing dynasty. Shure Sun Yat Sen tried to fight it but he bassicaly had the worst luck in every situation.
>>738004891"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancel out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink."
>>738004864>>738004821>>738004758Chinese shills got caught saying historical lies here>>738000882>>738000650>>738001003>>738001047Then come and cope
Objective facts that the CCP shills says isn't true>The soviet union supported the CCP massively including billions in aid>The US embargoed China after WW2 Yet the communists lie in the thread about these objective facts
>>738001510Mao was unironically one of the worst leaders of China, however, it would have been far more preferable than being yet another US dog under the Nationalist's rule. China would have been stripped of any identity and become super westernized like Japan.
>>737999854>want's to have a neat WW2 but somewhere else that's not western front>thread is instantly hijacked by Russian/ Ukrainian shills>or /pol/ tards>or Wumaos This is wy we can't have nice things anymore.
>>738004367Yep. China would be the number 1 super power on earth today but instead the commies fucked everything up.Ironically it is a good thing for America that China became communist because it kept it weak.
>>738005046>China would have been stripped of any identityYou retard. The CCP literally banned Chinese culture, religion, holidays and burned down thousands of temples because Mao hated Chinese culture.
>>738005046China wouldn't have been under the US. Without the communists it would have gained far more economic might and wouldn't need the US. On the otherhand the CCP literally tried destroying Chinese culture and partly succeeded.
>>738005046>Japan>No identityIt has far more than China. What a retarded post
>>738005072>Didn’t call out weebshits tooYou are part of the problem.
>>738005046>China would have been stripped of any identity and become super westernized like Japan.M8 Mao instigated Cultural Revolution aka "destroy everything connected to Old China" Deng stoped that but never really gave a shit abaut culture (more abaut economy) and he Opened up China to the west. Reall only now President Xixing Ping is going hard into a Han dominated state and pretty much wants to erase any other ethnicities.
>>738005119Forgot. Mao also tried banning Chinese characters but didn't because Stalin told him not to. Think about that.
>>738005119Hence the 'the worst leader in China'. He did a lot of harm to remove China's history but at least his shit will go away when he dies and people can fix it afterwards. The nationalist would have continued to be US's dogs all the way until now. You have a fully westernized China that wouldn't dare to act out against the US
>>738004864While I agree with the statement "America IS why Japan lost", I think they would have lost regardless, just differently.The Japanese could not have won against China even if they fought for 30 years. They'd have grown weaker and weaker while the Chinese became more and more battle hardened. The Japanese way of doing things could never have come up the elaborate and subversive ways that the British used to control India, for example. There simply wasn't enough resources and manpower in Japan to occupty China in the way they wanted to do it. The Nationalists were never going to surrender even if they got pushed back all the way to central Asia.And it's easy to forget that Japan itself was also not a very organized or centralized organization at the time. The constant infighting between Army and Navy while neither one had any regard for the civilian government or the Emperor meant that things were going to blow up at home at one point or another.>>738005046See >>738005119The great leap forward and he cultural revolution were, basically, attempts to erase chinese culture from China. Nutjob commies like Stalin and Mao both tried this. Basically, in a communist country, there is only space for communism culture. Anything that existed before was "subversive" and needs to be erased.
>>738005046>Doesn't know about the cultural revolution>Tibet: Over 97% of monasteries and nunneries were destroyed by 1962. Out of approximately 6,200 monasteries, fewer than 10 remained by the end of the 1970s.>Beijing: Approximately 72% of officially designated "places of cultural or historical interest" were destroyed. Of 6,843 registered sites, 4,922 were razed or severely damaged.>National Level: Virtually 100% of religious sites were either destroyed, shuttered, or converted for secular use (factories, granaries, or barracks) by the peak of the "Four Olds" campaign in 1966.>Chinese holidays such as Chinese New Year were banned and punishable by death if practiced
>>738005286Japan has far more of its culture today than China does.Also China wasn't occupied like Japan was. A richer more important China would have kept far more of its identity instead of being a culturaless dildo factory like today
>>738003650>romans were actually heckin asian you chud
>>738000882during the war. after about 1946 the US abandoned the Nationalists.
>>738005479Worst strategic mistake US ever made. Directly resulted in the Korean and Vietnamese wars.
>>738003650>Asia descended Romans
>>738005413Bullshit. Japan is not allowed to have a proper military because of the US. Their entire modern constitution was written by the US. The whole mosaic censorship was forced upon them by the US. Even now, the whole woke shit is being forced upon them, and even payment processors are fucking them in the ass. Hell, when Trump made that horrible pearl harbor joke to Sanae, she just smiled and took it all. Japan has no identity than what the US wants it to be.
>>738005439It's the magic dirt theory in action>retards see reddit post about how romans are from anatolia because troy>anatolia is classified as part asia>"wow, le romans are le heckin asian!!!!"It's no different than people who believe the romans were black because of a guy who was given the title Africanus for obliterating carthage.
>>738005601>Japan is not allowed to have a proper military because of the US.False. Trump is literally telling them to have one. It is the Japanese people who don't want one.Also none of this would apply to a nationalist China because the US didn't occupy them.You are a commie
>>738005601And yet Japan has far more Identity than China who destroyed its culture thanks to the CCP while the entire world LOVES Japanese culture.
>>738005601>Japan isn't allowed to have a militaryThis hasn't been true since the 80s. The US is actually telling Japan to have a stronger military right now.
>>738005676And the excuse that they can't send military to the Middle East is that they don't have a proper military because of their self-defense clause. They are now realizing that the moment they get a proper military, it will simply be used by the US instead of for themselves
>>738005325>Basically, in a communist country, there is only space for communism culture. Anything that existed before was "subversive" and needs to be erasedNot in every single one. Shure Stalin ditched Korenizatsiion so he could have tighter grip on USSR. But countries like Poland or Romania really leaned into almoust Nationalistic rethorics. Like Historical battles or Some historical figures. Or like romania really pushed the ideas of national homogenity. Even smaller states liked to evoke historical rethoric like Pic related. It want to say "See we are continuation from OG Bulgarian Empire" Or DDR with it's specific brand of Nationalism.
>>738005718Sure bro. I'm sure everyone on /v/ have been saying how amazing Japan has been resisting the US from introducing censorship and wokeness in their video games.
>>738005820Retard. The CCP has more censorship than Japan. What a retarded ass post
>>738005572we call them ROMANIans
>>738002621>Nationalists exiled to Taiwan in 1950>1955 Cadillac
>>738005745maybe it would be more accurate to say they aren't allowed to have their own military
>>738005820>>738005762>>738005601None of this commie cope works when we can see Taiwan today has far more culture than China because they didn't undergo the cultural revolution. Also none of what you said would apply to China who was never occupied by America.Faggot retard
>>738005872They clearly are.
>>738005847CCP censorship is because of the CCP, what's Japan's excuse?
>>738005910Wow so the CCP censorship is because the same commies that destroyed Chinese culture also censor themselves!
>>738005601>Japan is not allowed to have a proper military because of the USThat was a convenient piece of legal fiction that was useful in the 1950s but it's bothersome now. Japan has a proper army, they just can't call it that.>Even now, the whole woke shit is being forced upon them, and even payment processors are fucking them in the assThere are several examples of Japan refusing to go along with those policies. It's not as bad as you suggest, not even close.>>738005770Interesting, I didn't know about that.
>>738005874Taiwan has no culture. Their current government is stuck in a deadlock because they can't decided between China or US. Hell, the current president even to remove all the pro-China politicians from the government and it backfired when the people voted them to stay.
>>738005910>The cultural revolution which destroyed Chinese culture is good because the CCP did it!
>>738005971It has a fuck ton of culture. What a retarded ass post. Faggot commie cuck.
>>738005938China is getting censored because they want family friendly shit. Japan is getting censored because US companies and payment processors are forcing them to. Huge difference here
>>738005971>Bubble tea>Thunderbolt fantasy>Didn't destroy their relgion>NOOOOOO THAT ISN'T CULTURE
>>738006001They have zero. They are literally known as the island that makes semi-conductors for the west. They have zero identity beyond that. Look at how disposable they are once they were forced to build a new factory in the US.
>>738001821>Communism is a hell of an upgrade for a populace living in serfdom.Around 70 million people died due to bad policy.
>>738006020>China is getting censored because they want family friendly shitNo because the CCP hates Chinese culture and hates Chinese expression. Commie postTaiwan doesn't censor porn or gacha.
>>738006076>In 1990 60% of all music sales in China were from Taiwanese artistsLol sure thing Commie faggot
>>738006076Bubble tea is literally the most famous modern drink. You are a coping mainland CCP shill
>>738006041Bubble tea is now Chinese just like how pasta is now Italian. Taiwan might have created it but no one really thinks of it as Taiwanese anymore especially given how many Chinese tea shops muscled out any other competition.
>>738006076No...US (and not only them) imports from Taiwan stillalso there is something in Taiwan of it's ownThat's a nice vid abaut that (plus it had a cool flag)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzt2j54waPU
>>738006192>Bubble tea is now ChineseWhat a retarded ass cope post
>>738005871He got another in 1972
>>738006192In Chinese they literally refer to Bubble tea as "Taiwanese Tea"You are coping so hard now. No one thinks of Bubble tea as Chinese.
>>738005539Korean war was caused by the allies pulling an East/West Germany stunt on the Korean peninsula, and the Soviets then paying the North Koreans to try and conquer the whole peninsula for themselves as a dry run for a future attempt to do the same with East Germany. Vietnam war was caused by the French being even more incompetent than the British at managing their asian colonies and paying the Communists to fight the Japanese for them in their Asian colonies, leading to communism taking deep roots in French Indochina.
>>738006092>No because the CCP hates Chinese culture and hates Chinese expression.This couldn't be farther from the truth. Now that China's boom is over with most citizens getting wealthy enough to live like their East Asian peers within a decade, the CCP can no longer use "we're controlling sure but we're also pulling you all out of poverty" as the reason of their legitimacy, so now they rely on nationalism to stay in power
>>738006192>Chink claims Taiwanese shit as their own to cope with how no one likes Chinese cultureWhy are they always like this? THey do the same for Hong Kong too.
>>738006119>1990Bruh..., that's over 30 years ago.
>>738006262>Now that China's boom is over with most citizens getting wealthy enough to live like their East Asian peers within a decade,HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>738006262within a generation* not a decade
The asians fighting each other to be white man's favorite pet will never not be funny to me.
>>738006270Wow amazing cope.
>>738006307>Within a generationAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHA
Chinese itt are now seething at Taiwan. How predictable
>>738006307>>738006262lol
>>738006245>the Communists to fight the Japanese for them in their Asian colonies, leading to communism taking deep roots in French Indochina.Yea totaly that and not because French were pretty shit. And USA rejecting Ho Chi Minh despite him offering his cause to US 3 TIMES even quoting Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence. HE WANTED TO GO TO US and bassicaly decided "Fine, lte's try USSR" and they absolutely did want him in.
>>738006295Lol how do you define standard of living? Because almost everyone has a very low standard of happiness. Money doesn’t buy happiness bro. Theres probably equally as many changs as there are chads, and everyone else is shitting themselves in terror and agony.
>>737999854Rising storm 2 Vietnam
Chin shills are annoying
>>738006390Oh wow new cope.Amazing. Commie Chang is seething at Taiwan's superiority.
>>738006235Bullshit. No they don't. Even a quick AI search shows most doesn't use the word Taiwan from the tea and only a few shops call it Taiwanese-style. Taiwanese created it but China popularized it and even added more shit and became part of the new-style tea model now.
>>738006421>China will be just like Japan and Taiwan soon!>*Prove its a third world shithole>UH THAT DOESN'T HECKIN MATTER EVEN THOUGH I JUST SAID IT DID
>>738006506meant for >>738006421
>>738006323No, that's call using outdated info. Like, really outdated info.
>>738006539Posting your /pol/ ms paint slop with no sources isn't proof
>>738006390You can easily live decently off of $163 per month anywhere in the world. You have no idea what you’re even saying. Money can’t buy you a chang tier face. Chang has been plapping his way through shanghai on less than I make per day for free from my mom.
>>738006532I literally just in China. It is called Taiwanese tea.Fuck you faggot
>>738006392>French were shitI said that. they basically handed the territory over to Japan because they lacked the most basic capability of defending it, and Japan thoroughly raped them for five years straight as a result. >US reject Ho Chi Minhby the time the US got involved the war had already been going for nearly a decade.>but he quoted Jeffersonso did Karl Marx at one point. retard Leyley poster
>>738006580>>738006583>>738006582You got btfw after coping hard. Here >>738006506
>>738006619Bullshit. It's new style tea now. Stop lying.
>>738006580>>738006582>>738006583>CHINA IS FIRST WORLD>Uh that doesn't count money doesn't count standard of living doesn't count only happiness counts>Taiwanese are far happier than Chinese>UH HAPPINESS DOESN'T COUNT EITHERCommies everyone
>>738006463I like how this article leads tohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people#CriticismAperentaly it's really easy to hurt fellings of 1 billion people.
Why does it trigger Indians so much that Chinas developed?
>>738006771Let me know when it becomes developed. Right now it is less developed than most south american countries
>>738006705Taiwanese girls are very pretty, chads go to Taiwan to plap a lot of them.
>be CCP>wait until nationalists were done saving the nation from the Japanese and back stab them>go to war in Korea and get BTFO the minute you stop fighting Europeans and start fighting Americans>go to war in Vietnam after helping Vietnam drive out the Americans, and then get BTFO by Vietnamese>get stalemate by India to the point where you are still fighting over a bunch of rocks>still unable to actually win your civil war and just demand other countries to say there is a state called China>become a kingdom of boomers and screw out the young so much that 40% cant find a job that isnt food delivery>food delivery so competitive that it crashes emerging food industry
>>738006652Commies are pathetic sub humans
>>738006771Both are heavily uneven in their "growth", however India has too much of a caste system issue along with their uneven growth that it fucks it over. While it takes a long time for the rest of China to catch up with itself, there is many parts in India that haven't even caught up with colonial era India all because they are just suppose to take it.
Fuck the CCP shills in this thread. Holy fuck. Kill them all
>>738006829The Asian boomers are so rich that they order their food delivery by motorcycle. They sold out the younger Chinese population with their real estate investments. Boomers did the same in America.
So Taiwan richer than China, more developed than China and more happy than China by a large amount.What will the next CCP cope be against the better country?
>>738006705The world happiness index is literally a survey asking you from 1 to 10, how happy are you. It's only as accurate as where the sampling is taken from and how much people value personal happiness. Like, not defending for or against it, but the report is as scientific as an internet survey.
>>738007010Also has more and better culture.
>>738007017>Makes another copeSo China isn't developed.It is poor, underdeveloped and unhappy.Taiwan is rich, developed and happy.You can cope all you want but China is a third world shithole thanks to the commies while Taiwan is rich and paradise.
Taiwan made bubble teaChina made Live Leak videosWhich one is more important culturally?
>>738006931Damn they should put up a stop sign, what the fuck? Thats so scary, car crashes are like my top 85 fears
>>738007017Amazing fucking cope.
>>738006995True, but American youth can look forward to getting something after boomers die out. Chinese youth have fucking nothing since their boomers gave it all to the government who have already shown to fuck things up badly.
>CHINA IS DEVELOPED>Just not in any way that can be measured
>>738007135you can avoid almost every instance of a car crash by just opening your fucking eyes and paying attention, if you are half asleep in a trance and looking at your phone then you are going to get in a wreck eventually
>>738007228>you can avoid almost every instance of a car crash by just opening your fucking eyes and paying attention,Impossible if Chinese
>>738007323Are they ok
>>738007210They have more pregnant women than other similar sized places. They just eat ass all day for fun because it’s too expensive to buy a house.
>>738007185Who needs safety when you have heavy machinery?
>"Kek, CCP shills are coping">posts webms to copeNo wonder why people won't take Japan and its glazers seriously
>>738007583Nigga shot the red barrel, those things always explode
>>738007718holy shit what's the backstory on this
>>738007943Never seen a factory explode? It happens in the Midwest at least once every 4 months
>>738007943Shit that was me. I was playing a game there and overclocked my pc too hard.
>>738007943Chemical factory exploded
>chinks trying to take credit for bubble teaThey really are the niggers of Asia
>goys having a meltylole
>>738007721Do chink. You said china was developed. How exactly?
>>738000918It's only partly true, and even then you have to end the story immediately after the communist takeover. Mao's rulership exposed what a fraud he and his cause always was.
>>738008362Chinky are you ok?You were claiming China is developed and has culture but then got btfo.
I'm from Israel and I also hate China
Taiwanese here. Fun thread What should I get from the night market?
>>738008483I'm NetinyahuI love china
>>738007323like that scene in Titanic when the ship and sinking and people are hanging onto the guard rails and then falling into the water
>>738008535kung pow chicken and flied lice
>>738008535stinky tofu slathered in sugar & oil
>>738009252That sounds really good actually
Since this is a Asian vs Asian thread, can you guys start posting your hot women while claiming that other Asian countries women are ugly?
>>738010043Japs and chinks are hotKoreans need a bunch of plastic surgery to look attractive
