/v/ was wrong again, Marathon sold 2 million copies
>>738003058how many does it need to break even?
Surely this thread won't devolve into more flame war and schadenfreude
>>738003058Wow 50-50 between steam and console
>>738003058it needs to sell 11 million before it turns a profit.only 9 million to go!
>Ampere dataso they're overblown estimates
>players
>>738003169It actually has a higher reverse peak than yesterday. I guess people do play Cryo archive.
That's a very curious Ps/Xbox ratio, Halo fags still have a thing for Bungie I guess
>>738003058I forget; how much did they pay to acquire bungie again?
>>738003058>ampere dataso its a guess....they are very often very wrong
>>738003169destiny is a free game
>>738003325it's a paid game frogtard
>>738003058This is true, I believe this.They will announce a 400k discord member milestone but make no mention of surpassing 1 and 2 million copies sold.
>>738003058Stellar blade has sold 6 mil and people call it a flop.
bungie would have said that they broke the 1 million and 2 million mark if they didthey fucking did it for destiny 2
>>738003629Free to try, not to play
>>738003632paid by whom? are those "players" in this room with us right now? also, what do you think bot farms do? they get paid in incentives to play a game through scripts to make it seem more alive and they usually get more than what the games cost to buy them back so they profit and the company doesn't get hurt. typical company afforded swindling tactics.
>>738003169it's getting mogged by uncslop
>guesses how many players by discord members>guesses how many players by randomly multiplying concurrent users>guesses how many players by reading tea leaves>sony STILL hasn't mentioned 1 word about its sales after two months we all know sony loves bragging about their sales
>>738003682So you don't think they passed one million?
>>738003760brutal mogging, no cap.
>>738003760uncGODS stay winning
>>738003761>PicThey are bragging about "fastest selling", which Marathon probably wasn't. I also imagine that announcing 1 million copies sold ~1 week after release wouldn't be that much of a cause for celebration. But this is just me thinking, I don't know what actually happened.
>>738003058So you got 2.2 million copies sold in 2 months(probably a lie)but only 30k across all platforms are playing it at Max any given day? That's very, very pathetic.
>>738003796No, and they won't unless they put the game on sale for 90% off
>>738003058Tassi cooked the books
>>738003796They had to brag about discord users and not playersThis game didn't hit a single milestone they had in mind
>>738003169>40k players peak means it's only ever been purchased by those 40k, which are live every day all day/v/ iq
>>738003058Pretty good
>>738003169lmaooooo
It will at least win the award for best clown game of the year.
>>7380035573.3 billion dollars! money well spent!
>>738003665game journalists and gcj trannies aren't people
>>738003760OMG LETS FUCKING GO
>>738003058The game is huge on console now, im playing with console only matchmaking turned on, and i can find games in seconds. Never the same names too.
>>738003169Goes to show you steam concurrent players doesn't translate to sales.
>>73800308710 times as much
>>738004240>>738004363You lost cucks. Just accept it
>>738003058marathonsisters, we won!
>>738003058I'm literally married to the vandal character! It's cool as fuck.
>OP image says players >OP himself says copies Lol.
>>738004848Is Marathon free on gamepass or something?
>>738004848Marathon is a pay2play game, if you don't buy a copy you can't play it.
>Consoles combined are more than PC This is how you know this is bullshit. In its launch week Marathon wasn't even in the top 20 for PS5 or Xbox, yet was #4 on steam
you can see these numbers are bullshit since it doesn't make sense that the difference between xbox and ps5 is very low.
>>738003651>They will announce a 400k discord member milestone but make no mention of surpassing 1 and 2 million copies sold.exactly
>>738005096Top 20 what? PSN and Live don't track physical. Physical sales usually aren't reported unless they are particularly good.
>>738004986Actually you can steam family share the game plus you can also family share the game on console with other accounts.Also "launch month" does a lot of carrying here. The "launch month" could include for example, the open weekend when the game was free, in which the highest number of players would bounce on and off the game due to the game being free to play and also when no one had paid any money so there was very little reason for them to stick around.Players also don't include those who've refunded. And nor do copies either, but copies are generally better than players, especially in the first launch month. The better metric for players is comparing the launch month with the rest of the month.Look I don't think Marathon didn't sell 1.5mil copies. Bungie (for some reason) has a loyal fanbase of people with more money than sense, but these numbers are muddied. Which is why comparing numbers at this point is a dumb idea. It's fun to laugh, but for any actual usable data its near pointless without it coming from Sony/Bungie's mouth.
>D2fags when even slightly positive news about Marathon are published
>>738003169Christ, Dark and Darker has a higher playercount and the devs constantly piss the playerbase off
>>738005442I don't think that a noteworthy amount of people use Steam's family share.
>>738005445A game selling a 20% of what it needs to break even is positive news?
>>738005503Probably not. Console family share is generally more used than Steam family share. I don't think it meaningfully changes the players, but you CAN play the game without spending money if you really found someone else who did cough up that money.
>>738005665Ps5 doesn't have family share
>>738003058Switch 2 port will save it!
>>738005757yes it does imbecilewhat are you even fucking doing here if you dont even know basic shit?
Do you guys enjoy making the same posts every day?
>>738005757Xbox does, PS5 console sharing is deeper into the system and its an opt-in thing with a primary console. A little more of a bitch to set-up, but its Sony so what do we expect.https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/account/ps5-console-sharing-offline-play/
>>738005830i just come here to laughmaraflop threads are my fsvorite threads
>>738005837Yeah it's different from family sharing accounts
>>738005813It doesn't
>le ledditor doing the achtually thingwe truly have it all lmao
Show me the sexiest marathonian girl
>>738003058Why don't snoys buy games? Doesn't Sony sell three-four times more consoles than Microsoft? Those numbers make no sense.
>>738005968>PS5 family sharing allows multiple users on one console to access shared games and PlayStation Plus benefits via the "Console Sharing and Offline Play" feature. By enabling this in Settings > Users and Accounts > Other, the primary account holder shares their library with other profiles on that specific, designated PS5.>Key Features of PS5 Family SharingGame Sharing: Any user on the same PS5 console can play games purchased by the main account.PS Plus Benefits: Shared PS Plus allows other users on the home console to play online.Two-Console Setup: You can set a family member's PS5 as your "home" console to share games, while still playing on your own, enabling two people to play simultaneously.Child Accounts: Family managers can set parental controls, spending limits, and age-appropriate restrictions for children.
>>738003058color my blast having
>>738003058first it was discord usersnow it's playerswhat's next? search history?
>>738006205think its not that snoys buy no games, its more that snoys didn't buy a ps5 to pay 40 for multiplayer extraction slop with 3 maps, sometimes 4, no single player, with a terrible woke aesthetic, snoys detest live service garbage and do so very vocally.
>>738006301marathon has been the #1 game on steam db searches since launch!
>>738003058>playersIs this assasins creed all over again?
>>738006205snoys don't buy sony game is just how it isjapan studio died cause they refuse to buy anything other than ball and gun (COD) games
>>738003993>>40k players peak means it's only ever been purchased by those 40k, which are live every day all day>/v/ iqthe majority of the sales are in the first week for anticipated games though, so the proportion of players that will be online at least one time all at the same time should be higher than 10%
>>738004624what did we win
>>738006340>snoys detest live service garbage and do so very vocally.they are more the movie game demographic
>>738003169>>738003417>>738003760As brain-dead as the steam chart spammers are, it really does make me sad that more people aren't playing Marathon. Underrated isn't even the right word, it's just artificially hated which is just a bummer.
>>738006558So true my fellow Bungie employee
>>738006189
>>738003910Anon, that's the point. They're not saying anything because there's nothing (good) to say
>>738006558What are a couple things you like about Marathon that aren't looking at pictures of the characters?
>>738006558game is ugly and the genre is stupid, I wouldn't even try it for free and no one else did either on the free prelaunch weekend.
>>738006558>it really does make me sad that more people aren't playing MarathonThere are reasons for that. Extraction shooters are just not a popular genre, even to people who necessarily played the games that the genre takes a ton of influence from.
>playerscrine
I'm still not going to play it.
>>738003632it was free during beta
>sold 2 million copies>needed 10 million to break evenyikes
>>738006558Tranny studio, tranny art, shitty genre, shitty gameplay with no interaction + go back to resetera
SHEEEEEEIIIIIIIITT
Dragons dogma 2 sold more copies. Just saying.
>>738006827Even resetera is shitting on this game lmao
>>738006812it didn't sell shitit says players not sales, I'm betting they are including everyone that played during the server slam
>>738006915I assume that "launch month" means "1 month long period of time after the game's release", which wouldn't include the server slam.
>>738006827mental illness
>>738006896The Marathon CCU thread on retardera mindbroke the trannies there so fucking badly that the mods have now made sales/CCU stuff its own subforum so they can all stick their heads in the sand and not be confronted by how badly all their slop is flopping. so fucking funny
>>738007112just covering ground for the inevitable shitstorm once fairgame$ and that tranny horizon coop game launch
>>738006558Why did you copypaste a twitter post?
>>738007209Ragebaiting. Every time you express positive sentiment towards Marathon on /v/, you are guaranteed to get a bunch of (You)s.
>>738003058>NOOO YOU HAVE TO HATE IT BECAUSE... PEPE MAGA SHADILAY BASED ECELEB TRANS WOKEwhatever you say timmyAnyway, remove the Traxus sponsor kit, that gun is unusable
>>738005497Dark and Darker doesn't have a 24/7 hate campaign on the net.
>>738007362Also, do something about vault space. I have nowhere to store my guns.
APOLOGIZE
>>738003058They would have plastered those stats all over the internet for a whole week while denouncing everyone, if it was actually true.
>>738007521who's they
>>738007613Bungie.
>>738007380>Dark and Darker doesn't have a 24/7 hate campaign on the net.It also doesn't have anyone asking you to care about it
>>738007362>Brownoid shilling this slop No one is surprised
>>738007728Marathon is the only thing standing between you and an Aryan virgin girlfriend. I know you can do it, now save the West.
>>738006697nta but I like the mindgames with the noises.
>>738007457it's a feature
>playersThis is including people who played the server slam>a free 3-day beta from Bungie only managed to get ~1 mil playersGRIM
>>738007880>Brown retard immediately has to make everything about race
Presumably once it hits its baseline which is probably around 10-12k it can only go up from there.
>>738008039Where do you put your weapon mods and implants?
I dunno why niggers on here were complaining you had to grind keys and that the game was some massive 80 hour grind because of it, you can just kill people that grinded keys.I just did cryo vault 3 and I've never even got a key in the wild before.
>>738007489s-sowwy daddy
>>738008197because they don't actually play the game and just parrot some grifter e-celeb opinion
>>738008160>Go up Fucking lol
>>738006558I played it for a few weekends and can tell you for a fact this game is way, way too sweaty for the general audience and the hardcore extraction shooter fans who stuck around will drop off soon since they’ve basically done everything there is to do by now. It needs way more maps and meta progression right now to keep what they have.
>>738006449A live service gameThat didnt break even, so dont expect the service to live up to year's end
Member a week ago when maratards tried claiming the game sold better than Crimson Desert and Pokémon because it was higher on a list that didn't include digital sales for those games? They are so desperate to try and prove this game isn't a failure they will push anything
>>738007380destiny 2 had it worse yet it still managed to sell more
>>738003761>hyperbudgeted AssCreed clone for normalfags seems more than pvp shooterwoah
>>738008402>and the hardcore extraction shooter fans who stuck around will drop off soon since they’ve basically done everything there is to do by nowWell, it's a seasonal game, so this will change in June. But Bungie really did shoot themselves in the foot by having so little content on launch.
>>738003910They blew 3.6 billion dollars on it as a long term investment into live service The fact that there's not a single post by Sony celebrating anything about it means it's fucked...bigly...they needed to be one of the biggest hits of the year
>>7380030582 million copies40 bucks eachVATGabeN takes 30%Asha takes 30%Let’s be generous and say Sony gets $30 on average. 2 million x 30 is 60 millionDevelopment was north of 200million marketing not included. They have hundreds of people working on this burning through millions of $ each quarter.Bungie itself cost 3,5 billion.
>>738008548>hyperbudgetedLMAO it had not even 25% of the budget of Maraflop
>>738008402>It needs way more maps and meta progression right now to keep what they have.I was wondering if all the maps should be cryo sized/shaped and what kind of effect that would have on the game.I feel like that map is the "real game" and the other 3 maps are just a fuck around training.Cryo is even more sweaty and would probably turn even more people off, but I think it would be cool if that was the whole game.
>>738008597Marketing is included it's not some separate thing
>>738008597>Bungie itself cost 3,5 billion.Not sure how much of a factor this is since it's completely unfeasible to make that much money from a single game.
>>738008586Extraction shooters are too punishing to have mass appeal. The good players will mercilessly drive the casuals out. Cheaters will accelerate this.If they wanted an extraction shooter to be BIG, they really needed a better PvE only mode - preferably with co-op and SP. Maybe some kind of story progression to work through as well. *Something* other than just going out to provide easy kills to the sweats until you uninstall in disgust.
>>738008698No it isn’t. 200 million is development alone.
>>738003760
>>738008726Point is they‘re not making any money on Marathon or Destiny at this point.
>>738003058Not to me.
>>738008648>Still pretending Paul Tranni has any credibilityNo, the open world AAA game with cutscenes and a full studio on oit for 6 years did not cost more than a PVP multiplayer game
>>738007362>61k vaultWeak
>>738008830To be fair, look at the vault size. That's a new player.
>1million players on steam>peaked at 80k>weekly best is now 20k and dropping every dayWhere are these 1million players.........?
>>738008830It was 100k before last week's trip to the lose everything factory, I'm filling it with garbage now
>>738007489>>738008218who's your daddy?
>>738008881Many stopped playing. But also, it's not like everyone who does still play plays at the same time.
>>738008739>The good players will mercilessly drive the casuals out.I've said this before but almost by design the bottom 10% of shitters leave the game every week because they cant progress.in counter strike or anything else the ELO will always have them winning 50% of games, but marathon they will lose 100% of games and just quit.that being said I just lost 10 games of cryo in a row and enjoyed it the whole time, so I think you just have to be the kind of person that doesnt get mad at losing.
This game's dogshit CPU priority optimization makes the game sub-60fps unplayable for me on Outpost and Cryo. Western devs can't even optimize their own engine, is embarrassing. The game performance barely even scales if you have a high end PC too.
>>738008813>Still pretending Paul Tranni has any credibilityYou've been saying this since Maraflop launched, yet you still can't say a single time he was wrong about anything Bungie related
>>738008941I just use Cryo to free up vault space. Would be nice to extract someday, though.
>>738008939If many stopped playing OP is implying that they are doubling their players each week, or more evenAgain. Where the fuck are those players...?
>>738008881currently playing is the people playing right now, max concurrent is usually 10-20% of daily active users in most games.so at 15k that means ~100k people play every day (on steam)
>>738009054>If many stopped playing OP is implying that they are doubling their players each week, or more evenWhat's your logic for this?
>>738009006I had had a run just now where we did vault 1 and then couldn't find an extract because the maps a fucking labyrinth.
>>738008726Sony thought it was a good investment at the time because they wanted Bungie to be their GaaS experts. Surely they didnt expect just Marathon to make back anywhere near that. We see now how it all turned out, every GaaS game Sony tried to push out was a complete flop, Marathon included. Bungie was a gargantuan waste of money.
>>738008698>Marketing is included it's not some separate thingthis is a mafia of its ownplus it can be written-off >>738008742
>>738003087Around 10
>>738003058>player count not sales numbersThe first sign of a flop.
>>738009140One time, but team extracted without be because I got lost in that one room with laser beams and a circular room around it, and couldn't find my way to my team. Or to the final exfil. All of them where in the south-east part of the map, and I didn't know where to go after the cinema.
> ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶u̶r̶n̶a̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶v̶t̶u̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶n̶s̶o̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶a̶m̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶4̶0̶0̶,̶0̶0̶0̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶c̶o̶r̶d̶ ̶f̶r̶e̶a̶k̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶r̶a̶i̶d̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶"̶c̶r̶y̶o̶ ̶a̶r̶c̶h̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶-̶ ̶c̶a̶l̶l̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶g̶a̶y̶s̶"̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶d̶u̶o̶ ̶q̶u̶e̶u̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶t̶u̶r̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶r̶e̶g̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶c̶h̶m̶a̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶c̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶l̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶> ̶2̶0̶%̶ ̶o̶f̶f̶ ̶s̶t̶e̶a̶m̶ ̶s̶a̶l̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶>season 2 will save the game <----you are here>dedicated PvE will save the game>F2P will save the game
>>738009245>plus it can be written-offduh it's a business expense, anything related to the creation and selling of marathon can be written off.thats how write offs work, you dont pay tax on making businesses make more money.
>>738009270Game is paid and not on a subscriptionNo, the server test isn't counted
>>738009275I think the cinema is 1 of 4 places the final extract spawns, so you got unlucky.
>>738009134Guy claims that 'many' players are quitting. OP says there are 1.1 MILLION players on PC. This can only mean that they are doubling their players every week since 80k (at least) new players start getting into the game, but with the daily peak getting lower and lower and avg players dropping down to 5k it doesnt add up at allOnly 2 conclusions for this:>OP is lying and pulling numbers out of their ass>They are doubling their players every weekWhich one do you think makes more sense here?
now show the refunds
>>738009097>is usuallySo, you just made it up.
>>738006558I agree.
>>738006808betas are separate from release
>>738003169>kill your cash cow franchise>to revive a franchise to then killhow long until Bungie is dismantled?
>>738003058cool, only 10 more millions to go to recoup the development costs
>>738009462Fucking gringos are all mentally ill.
>>738008160they were telling us the base was 40-50k last month
>>738009402>This can only mean that they are doubling their players every week since 80kyou do not understand what the steam charts actually represent and it has marred your whole viewpoint, 80k is "concurrent" players not the amount of people that bought the game.
>>738009350>anything related to the creation no idiot
>>738009462Did twitter really needed a "erm akshually"feature?
>>738009614erm akshually, yes
>>738003058>1.1 Million on PC, for every one person who played the game 11 people bought it, and never played itYeah that's wishful thinking buddy.
>>738009585And so we go full circle and back to the original questionWHERE ARE ALL THE 1MILLION PLAYERS ON PC???
>>738006623elaborate
>>738009402Oh, you are just retarded, got it. That number means total unique players, not unique daily players. It's not a number that can go down.
>>738009642Do you even know what those numbers you love mean?
>>738009453dont take my word for it nigger go look it up.>>73800964890% of them stopped playing, of the remaining ~100k right now most are asleep or at work with like Australia and Asia playing.
>>738009614At this point Twitter is nothing more than propaganda. It's insane. Everything in Twitter is propaganda. Generation vs generation; men vs women; right vs left; etc. It's disgusting.
>>738003058This is such a dumb lie. They would have had way more than 80 K players on PC if they sold that much. Marathon didn't even sell a million copies across all platforms.
>>738009715You're the one claiming 100k, which is hilarious.
The game hasn't even been out for 2 months and has been put on sale twice already lol. There is no universe where this isn't a failure
>>738003058>discord members>wishlists>"""players"""that's all nice but may i see copies sold?
>Mewgenics has more concurrents than MarathonJesus Christ
>>738009715In what universe can there be 100k players if it cant even peak at 20k? With it having 5k players or LESS NOW during most of the day?
>>738009649https://youtu.be/INYMy-po13w
>>738006623Cute
if bungo actually had 2+ million players playing during launch they would have announced that shit yesterday, all they announced is 400,000 marathon homos pounding ass on discord
>>738009487not joking, probably 2 weeks
>>738008769I’m glad that game is doing well
>>738009897Playstation has an upcoming earnings call/report so we may receive actual information there
>>738009706>Guys trust me 11 people bought the game, but never played itI don't trust you. If a game's all time peak players is 77k, the game only had around 80k sales. People don't buy brand new games at full price, then never play them. There are not 11 people that gave Bungie 65 bucks to buy Marathon then never launched the game for every 1 person who played it, that's delusional.
>>738009936sex with marathon worm
I understand why Sony and Bungie are trying to paint this game as a success, that makes perfect sense.But what’s with journos and twitter randoms doing it? They’ve been white knighting this game harder than anything I’ve seen before.
>>738003282>>738009498that's just development cost. no one even talks about the $4 billion sony paid for the studio.
>>738009936so what’s the lore?
Just had the best three runs playing today. Was about to uninstall but people seem to be using mics now and not being retarded murder hobos. Has there been any indication how matchmaking works? I don't know why it's blessed me with crews without sponsored kits.
>>738009760>This is such a dumb liewe'll never know, but common methods for guessing sales put it at about 1 million (total steam reviews * 30), any of those steam revenue estimate sites use those numbers.>>738009836we have a few examples from other games, deep rock galactic released their numbers which showed DAU was 10x the peak concurrent.
>>738010239western AAA's final stand
>>738003169So many people having a blast
>Players
>>738010328Japanese bioteledildonicshttps://marathon.karnemir.com/intercepts/sekiguchi/index
>>738010239overreaction to the perception of negativity around the game. some of it justified, some of it is creating boogeymen to knock down. some people legitimately think that online negativity can actually bring down a game rather than the more obvious reality that the market at large has simply rejected your chosen product.
>>738010426>japanese transhuman corporation>not making anime girlsI’m not immersed!
>>738010208>retarded post>shitler avatarpostingfollow your leader
>2m players in a month>We are now approaching 2 months of release and there has been zero sales announcements Lol. This shit really is Veilguard all over again. Expect mass layoffs within the next month or two
>>738007209>the game has been bad since playtesting but it's steam charties that gave it a bad reputation>but the game is actually goodwhat the fuck is this hole saying?
>>738003058
>>738009245So how does this work, if a project flops, they fudge the books to shift most costs to marketing in order to get the biggest return?
>>738010270>no one even talks about the $4 billion sony paid for the studio.sony bought bungie in 2022, that's over 4 years ago and they didn't buy them because of marathon, they bought them because back then destiny was one of the biggest live services in gaming and they wanted their tricks to use it on other live service sony titles which later got cancelledpeople need to stop equating sony buying bungie with "sony bought bungie because of marathon" the two things have nothing to do with each other
Daily paid shilling thread from Snoywho now steals all your games if you dont verify ID
>>738009973This. 400k discord members being the only official number means that the actual copies sold must be even less. Rape bungie.
I recently got back into destiny 2 and you know what boys its awrite
>>738010445This doesn't apply to a multiplayer game. Pushing a negative narrative causes purchase aversion which causes fewer players which causes purchase aversion. It's a failure of marketing to entrench a better narrative.>>738010508They could, if you paid them enough. They could even make (You) the anime girl. They mass produced clones of one of their employees because they thought she looked hot and would increase their sales.
>>738010513it would be a miracle if bungie escapes layoffs when they are headquartered in one of the most expensive areas (cost of living and salaries) in the united states.
>>738010584that means they were expecting marathon to be a big hit and they could make their money back
>>738009715>most are asleep or at work with like Australia and Asia playing.holy cope
>>738010239Its got an art style which is a breath of fresh air when everything seems to be made with UE marketplace assets. I think the extract shooting feels like a slot machine but it's a shame the rest of the design isn't seen by people. If you want to be cynical becoming the marathon I told you so reviewer is probably worth some internet points akin to No Mans Sky engoodening.
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>>738003058wasn’t there a free weekend during launch month
>>738003058>source: random niggers using an algorithmmore and more of these types of grifters pop up every dayfirst it was circana then alynea then 15 other niggersnow ampere
>>738010715>anon doesn't know the world is round and that while half is bathed in sunlight the other half is dark.
>>738010661It starts at the top really, Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst are both morons who thought live service would just print money for them regardless of what it was
>>738010661Marathon back then was a pre-pre-pre-production concept under Chris Barrett who left the company soon afterwards. They sure as fucking hell didn't buy them for that.
>>738010759When I ask people why they didn’t pick up marathon, the art style being off putting is one of the primary reasons.Fine for a more artsy individualist game but detrimental for a live service which requires a constant stream of players.
>>738010619>They mass produced clones of one of their employees because they thought she looked hot and would increase their sales.Not exactly, it was an underground mod.>HISTORY: Only those who were there know the truth, but the story goes that the first THIEF SHELL was an inside job—a specialized SHELL developed in-house at SEKGEN to serve in a raid of a rival corp. Word is, the job got done, but the RUNNER hire never returned the SHELL and the specs dropped on dark markets a few months later. Can't say if it's true, but SEKGEN were subject to a UESC probe in late 2885 just after a TRAX data breach, which is convenient, if nothing else. >COMMON SHELL SERIES: The ICON personality series is 100% aftermarket neural support tech featuring a life-like facial replica and vocalization pattern of SEKGEN's former lead SHELL Science Director, Dr. Yoki Samura. No one knows why the RUNNER or RUNNERS who originated the ICON persona chose Samura as the model for their THIEF SHELLS, but there are theories. Showmanship and anonymity are two opposing traits THIEVES tend to value—a known face and vox patt gives law enforcement limited insight into actual identity and motives. As such, picking a public figure tied to the very tech a RUNNER is utilizing begs questions beyond what may be pertinent to a case. Also, THIEVES tend to be fashion-forward and not above grandstanding, both seemingly inspired by Samura and her work, which tends to aim for elegance and a higher class of appreciation than SHELLS equipped specifically for combat and survival.
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>>738010619marathon was already down when people started kicking it, not even cracking 100,000 active on PC was during the launch window was embarrassing. the market does not care about marathon, period.
>>738010769There was and it only brought in like 2k players.
>>738010769No, they did a "server test" before launch where the game was free. it had even less players, people willingly didnt even play it for free
>>738010769For the first 2 days of the month. And then the game wasn't out for another 3 days. However, see >>738007004
>>738010986I'd argue the server slam did a lot of damage because the normal people required to keep your player base healthy played it for free, didn't like the game loop and split, never to return
>>738010378I don't think the review method works for this game. The maratroon discord decided to spam positive reviews for the game, so its player to review ratio is a bit skewed
>>738010509>Post a game that has 4 times as many players as Marathon 4 years after release People bought the game, and then played it. It has 800,000 players in 2024, and 60k in 2023. Marathon has 8k players playing it a month later. Elden Ring had 900,000 players playing it a month later. People tend not to buy games, and not play them.
>>738011178Good thing we have based metacritic and those impartial mass 0 reviews from true gamers who really played it
>>738010809they bought the studio for the next game, not the current game.
>>738010580that's what I thoughtyou (and all sloptubers) equate writing off a loss (oh oopsie, no biggie) with write-offs (tax deduction). it's not the same
>>738011247Bungie's inability to change the negative temperature around Marathon is a massive failure on their part, that said it was probably an impossible task when you kill a game people actually play to prop up a neon barf-colored poison pill.
>>738010775>>anon doesn't knowbut did you know that my dick could probably fit in your asshole?
fuck Tarkovfuck Dark and Darkerfuck Forever Winterfuck Hyenasfuck Maraudersfuck Cycle: Frontierfuck Disney Extraction Shooterfuck Arena Breakoutfuck The Cube, Save Usfuck Halo Extraction Shooterand especially fuck Marathonwhat a fucking stupid genre, ain't nobody fucking figured out the gameplay loop let alone the endgame for these stupid multiplayer extraction shooters.And don't even think of bringing up Arc Raiders as some sort of success, they've already losing players and i wouldn't be surprised by the end of the year they'll be less than Warframe with 30k or so players.
>>738011484Neither should exist
>>738003058No it didn't.
>>738011741every gameplay video of dark and darker I saw reminded me of those dreams you have where you're trying to run as fast as you can but you move at a molasses like speedI seriously don't know why people like that game
>>738011741The cube from your screenshot and The Cube, Save Us you posted about are two different games
>>738011931lot of friction and deliberative combat. like tarkov.if it was any faster and easier like an action arcade, nobody would play it.well i guess you could make a more deliberative game with friction while NOT moving super slow. but that's a bit harder to do.
western AAA and their shills being so comfortable spreading complete lies to paint their games as successful is something you'd expect from russians or chinks or something. it's totally unbecoming for a once beloved industry by nerds for nerds. they've spent all their good will and are sliding into some kind of despotism. if this isn't a sign the industry is fucked beyond repair by bad actors i don't know what is
>>738011973the difference is i have hope for The Cube.
>>738009332Bless you for continuing this meme.
>>738003760uncChads, I'm not tired of winning yet>fr fr no cap not bussindidn't read zoomie ;)
>>738010580>>738011484fuuuck i forgot the oopsie jpegtake this one instead>>738011865well i disagree. a loss is a loss, a write-off is a "strategic" move (to improve the business (and the value to its community (yes i know)))what shouldn't exist is taxation on capital gains on already taxed income beforehandfucking jewish scamfiesta. animals
>>738010580>>738011484>>738011865>>738012242my guy. this is not my day
I need fairgames to drop already
>>738010980>>738010986>brought in 2k players>had even less playersWhat are you talking about? The 'server slam' free playtest brought in the best numbers Marathon ever saw (143k CCU), but it ended up being just a mirage because half of those people didn't come back the second day.
>>738011058If they didn't do the free playtest, all that would have happened is some amount of those players buying it out of curiosity, playing for 30 mins, then refunding.
>>738011505There's nothing they can do when the game only appeals to a small group of sweaty PVPers. If the foundations of a game aren't good, dressing it up won't work.
>>738012661do you have a single piece of evidence to back that up?
>>738012830>https://steamdb.info/app/4254230/charts/That's the separate SteamDB entry for the Marathon Server Slam.
>>738012830NTA, but that's what the Steam Charts shows. Well, almost. The daily peak was half of the max by day 3.
Bungie are so slow at releasing and creating content for games. Fortnite for example will have half a dozen little events all throughout the season. Here we just have 4 maps for three whole maps as is. Carri>>738012949 is like a social experiment and barely counts.
>>738013376bro they have to take all the servers offline each week to patch this game that can't break 100k players. those rumors about destiny's map editor being shitty and taking hours to move rocks around is probably true
>>738003058I bet the original marathon this stole the name of has sold more copies over the years than new marathon has.
>>738014394Doesn't seem to be the case.
>>738013486They've released patches that didn't require server maintenance.
>>738014754the wth is the weekly maintenance for? Is the server running on a HDD they have to defrag each week or what?
>>738014806No idea.
>>738006558its too fucking sweaty and too expensive and too light on content they marketed a game with an artstyle that the target audience is adverse tothey should have shipped with a singleplayer narrative, they should have delayed iti enjoyed what i played but it needs more things for you to accomplish that arent just scavenge for trash cause the codex lore unlocks are so pathetic i wanted everything to have flavor textmaybe a hub zoneidk about full on create a character but a lot of people seemed to value that it would be cool to find and loot unlocks for characters in-world
>>738006558As much as I love marathon, the game is extremely casual unfriendly with how much it wants you to grind, only for it to go away in 3 monthsAt least with Tarkov wipes are 6-9 months, and even a shitter gun with a single well placed shot can down a geared player, where in marathon you not only have to kill them, but pray they dont self rez + bubble + full heal in time if there's any distanceEverything on the map having a sound cue is cool, but when its nigh impossible to get purple, let alone gold materials, and key rooms (most consistent way to get high end mats) alert the ENTIRE map that you opened up the key room, it gets hard to stay as a casualThat and solo is decently boring as the game is built around trios, there's no duo que, and cryo / endgame is trio only so get fucked if you dont have a squad who no lifes, go to hell if you want to fight the endgame boss as that's 200 + hours of grinding It speaks volumes when the most popular mode is the free kit only dire marsh playlist, people find this game more fun as a BR then as an extraction shooter as the actual extraction mechanics suck and people just want to shoot shit, especially those in a party of casuals
>>738015425>the game is extremely casual unfriendly with how much it wants you to grindThe only "grind" is getting to the Compiler, and that isn't wipedThe faction upgrades are a surplus
>>738014806I think the oldass Tiger engine has massive system and maintenance debt that they have to shut down live services every week. Destiny 1 and 2 had weekly "resets" to cover for this.
>>738015540>The only "grind" is getting to the Compiler, and that isn't wipedWhile you are true on that part, how many casual players are able to not only get vault 1-6 (especially 6) keys, and not only obtain, but fully clear the lobby so they can loot in peace, or have spares in case shit goes southThis isn't D2 where you can just go on some LFG and do vault of glass after watching a youtube video>The faction upgrades are a surplusYet are the most important upgrades in the game. Compiler """just""" gives a shit ton of mats and money, where as the faction upgrades make your runner objectively better then an unupgraded runner, with access to more and better consumables (cardio kicks, signal jammers, self res, blue meds) as well as having better stats (arachne melee dmg comes to mind, and mida((?)) heat regen)Sure, you can choose NOT to upgrade your factions, but you be an an objective disadvantage when compared to other runners - and those faction upgrades ARE what get wiped
>>738015425>extremely casual unfriendly>demands you grind or get raped>built around trios>endgame boss requrie 200 hours of grindingAnd when you add the weird and offputting art style, this is the worst combination you could come up with for your mass market game. It'd be like if Disney spent a billion making a new tentpole movie franchise and it was some black and white silent film from eastern europe that has subtitles. I just can't believe they went ahead with it like this since this game was supposed to be the next big thing for Bungie.
>>738015425Tarkov doesn't do wipes now.
>>738009332thanks breh
how do you say mass layoffs in bungie-ese?
>>738015945
>>738016506300 employees are being vaulted
>>738003169guess which game cost 250 million to make.
>>738016578heh
Just a reminder for all the 'dead game' folks, the original talking point was that it was 'dead on arrival'then dead in week 1then dead in week 2then dead in week 3then dead in week 4then dead in month 2There's people in this thread now talking about sony investor calls and shit because beleive it or not this was never another concord situation and they are having to rely on speculation about what a hypothetical sony investor might think at this stage.Not to mention, if player numbers get so dire, it will likely go free to play and linger on for ages.Yes, I will repost this until you provide arguments.
explain why western devs are doing the following:>all in on extraction slop>making your designs ugly on purpose, when people naturally like nice things/pretty femalesyou want people to BUY SKINS and you make them CONCORD TIER UGLY. why.
>>738016602kek>>738016623>250mIt's amazing that all $250m gets you is four maps, six characters, and a handful of guns. That's less content than something like Ada's DLC in the RE4 remake.>>738016767Arguments are provided every time you post this cope, which is why you get butthurt, plug your ears, and pretend the bad news doesn't exist.Keep shilling it, retard. I'm sure the numbers will improve someday.
>>738016793It's what happens when you let woke retards try to tell you what 'beauty' is.Literally every other group people making games has beautiful, realistic background NPCs that are more attractive than these main characters. (Wind Rose and Crimson Desert come to mind.)
>>7380030582.2million players isn't the same as 2.2million copies if it's on gamepass or PSN or whatever.Also they were counting Destiny 2 play as Marathon for some reason. Starting up Destiny 2 was showing up as Marathon gametime.
>might and magic success>games with father/daughter dynamics are a success>games with nice designs are a success>troon shit flopseither make stuff for boomers/millennials or go bankrupt.
>>738016793There is no getting around it in western dev studios.>every company has to have an HR department>HR is entirely women and the occasional gay man>women hire other women and particularly ugly women or trans women>entire studios now staffed by fresh out of dev school women now>every college/university has mandatory woke propaganda classes as part of their programsThe result is every single studio now in the west is in a situation where you literally cannot have attractive women in the game because it will make the women on the devteam uncomfortable and thus the women in HR uncomfortable and thus make a problem for the board members. If you are a male designer just trying to make beautiful women, the other women on the team will bring it up tot he boss or HR or in a team meeting saying, "I feel like our designs are centered around the male gaze and it's making me uncomfortable as a dev, and if it makes ME uncomfortable it will definitely make our players uncomfortable".Japanese, Korean, Chinese devs don't have this shit because they don't have university programs designed to shove women into fields they don't care about.
>tranhuman setting>can only choose between like 5 robots, and they’re all ugly
>>738003632You are the tard. They are using the words they are using because they are fucking around with the numbers in some way. Also those numbers are made up to begin with.
>>738017258it's funny how much the west kneecap themselves with shit designs while asia gains all the market share by making girls that people want to see.
>>738009642It's incredible how many retards fail to comprehend what concurrent players are and aren't. It's such a simple stat, yet to the retard it might as well be magic.
>>738007080enough about trannies and fags mate
this is how dead marathon is. asia/europe basically dont care it exists.
>>738017315Doesn't matter. When a western studio collapses because its games are fully of ugly, unappealing characters and SJW concepts, the people responsible just fail upward, like a lot of the Concord lead devs going to Blizzard.At least the field is narrowing where the number of woke, shitty studios gets smaller every year. >>738017408>Marathon being beaten by Cities: Skylines and E33Bleak.
>>738017258I don't work in a game studio but this perfectly describes my work structure at my job.There is a small contingent of men who actually do everything, and then a GIGANTIC apparatus of women who do some sort of management, emails, teams meetings that doesn't really need to exist
>>738008039They only give you limited storage space for weapon skins?
Epstein is alive and well and will give us all little girls to rape if we just keep posting about Marathon! Cmon guys!
>>738017548ah hell yeah bro allahu slopbar!!!
>>738017530No, the only cosmetics that have limits are stickers (which is stupid and I don't get why they did it. You can't even buy more stickers.). Those are separate instances of weapons, with different attachments on them.
>>738017524A phenomenon both identified and explained.
>>738017826Oh nyo! Da west has fwallen! Peter Thiel pwease rapelace us all with AI jewbots!
>>738017909Settle down Moshe
>>738007362skill issueI find myself having no problem using any of the free sponsor kits
>post by litteral who>bungie only celebrated 400k discord members The raping continues
>>738017524I'm an IT guy in a children's hospital and it's pretty much the other way around. I'm the only male employee and I do 30 minutes of work a day tops.
>>738007489this game's font makes me feel like I have dyslexia
>>738017909it's incredible that you think you're the mature one in this conversation
>>738017826Imagine getting conquered by Jews. Whites are so pathetic
>>738017951Jews won and will keep winning, cope
>>738018017Incredible how you keep pretending to be white.
>>738008769>"life sim">it's a VN>with some turn-based combat to make it feel like you're doing something wow anon, that's great, I guess...
>>738009474Beta still existed in its release month lmao but nice try bungie shill
Can we get some (You)'s for maraflop? Press F to pay respects
Okay but seriously why did Marathon flop so hard?
>>738018062Because whites are subhumans who worship a Jew
>>738017826i don't get why ragebaiters and online losers got pissed off about the video of the women dancing.it's like they've never seen a marketing commercial before.
>>7380183471) Divisive art style.2) Scandal over said art style during the alpha test.3) Grindy.4) Low content.5) Very difficult to access the final boss.
>>738018347Shit artShit charactersShit musicRecycled d2 gameplayWatchable contentPVP focus in a already PVP saturated marketBad developersBad reputation No contentNo variety
>>738018387shalom
>>738016793But the Marathon characters aren't ugly though? At least not across the board, you got 2 nice looking characters, 2 meh looking characters, and 2 ugly characters, something for everyone.The design art style is pretty unique.Honestly this feels like forced hatred or something, or part of a bigger battle.
>enter marathon thread>immediately see a jew having a melty
>>738018578Cope
>>738018526>Shit musicObjectively wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ak35qC1Xis&list=PLVvCbbOohbCALvu7Q9KfRFjpzemZNMsaQ
>>738018634Why’d they give everyone lips? Aren’t they supposed to be robots? Couldn’t we have gotten a classic droid look?
>>738003058doubt
>>7380183471) very competitive pvp instead of an expanded pve with some pvp2) rigid class system instead of free customization3) retarded mmo-lite extraction shooter instead of something like Hunt or pve mission like Forever Winter or Paydaythat's it
>>738018642>20 seconds in>BRRRRAAAAAPPPPPP>DOO DOO >DOO DOOthanks for proving my point Here's some actual good music BTWhttps://youtu.be/fNxYAoxu9Hc?si=S-lLcObsjlQWJ3dg
>>738003058>playersHERE WE GO AGAIN
>>738018634>Black womanI think this is a troll post.>>738018694>Aren’t they supposed to be robots?They are biomechanical. There is a regular robot character, which is this game's scavenger.
>>738018634are you deliberately riling people up?did you not listen to what i just said?
>>738018526>Watchable content the fuck is that even supposed to mean
>>738018498>>738018526>>738018764Now let's watch the shills pretend these posts don't exist and keep posting their usual 'But it's a good game though?' talking points.>>738018694Because how else are you supposed to tell which one is the black guy? Bungie was going to get their DEI shit in the game somewhere.
>>738018840They are ugly across the board. There are no good looking character designs in NUmarathon
>>738018347it's a saturated market and people are tried of the model. they can change everything about the game but people still wouldn't care because they already have other things to play.
>>738018556Why didn't Jesus save them? lol
>>738018786That's a nice ambience track. But I listened a bit to the other tracks from that game, and most of it seems to be orchestral garbage, other than this one, which I liked: https://youtu.be/byhTEsSA70c
>>738018909or perhaps your standards are just way too damn high
>>738018002How do I get into this line of work and what's the pay?
>>738018906>Because how else are you supposed to tell which one is the black guy? which ones are?
>>738018634Wait…is that random Asian lady supposed to be the super hot waifu in the lore they were posting earlier?lol, and she’s still built like a fridge. What a joke.
>>738018694>Why’d they give everyone lips? Aren’t they supposed to be robots?No.
>>738018891Oh you poor little anonBasically back in shadowkeep bungie wanted to push "watchable" content which is where content will be designed for epic twitch clips, triumphs, and moments in destiny 2 so people can basedgasm over it. This philosophy was copy and pasted into marathon which is why all of the playtesters were journos and content creatorsIn reality though watchable content is very VERY boring combat where you fight against healthbloated enemies until they finally died and moved on to the next set. It really ruined the fun gameplay of D2 and started the death spiral that we have today
>>738019083Look at that image again.
Lil tahnit is still trying KEK
>>738018957>Country A invades Country B despite a truce>Country A kills tens of millions of people, both soldier and civilian>With help from other nations, Country B manages to push back Country A's invasion, all the way to their capital>Country B's soldiers take out their anger on the citizens of Country AMakes sense. In you think this "rape of Berlin" is bad, wait until you hear about the Siege of Leningrad.
Too many destinybros in this thread
>>738010760>i-it's russian bots fault!!!!Maybe people genuinely hate the game thougheverbeit.If the game was the third coming of christ it wouldn't have had a declining playerbase since launch, the word of mouth would have spread and people would have bought it a week after, yet they didn't.
>>738018994Most of the orchestral themes are ambience but you got some tracks like last array, eyes up which is very orchestral heavy meanwhile some lighter tracks like shadow of the walker, the warmind, fallen saber are a little more calm but I understand the orchestra music being a little bit too much
>>738019303We want to rape the marasissys afterall
>>738019134>she’s still built like a fridgeI don't think you know what that phrase means. Thief is probably the slimmest shell, she just wears a puffy coat.
>>738019279i don't see anything
>>738019068>How do I get into this line of workGo to the employment center, get this offered to you as the only option for someone with no experience and no disabilities, get rejected, and come back a few days later to get them to sign off on the rejection, only for them to have changed their mind.>what's the pay?Look up minimum wage in Russia.
>>738019462American character design everyone
Titanfall robot people look better than the maratroons
>>738003058>players
>>738019303Good, we gotta remember these shithead how bad D2 was raped and warn other anons about bungie jewish tactic
>>738019841>remember*remind
>>738010270or operating costs. they still have a full studio on this shit (somehow)
man, it's a good thing you guys don't act like this in real life, otherwise your lives would be a nightmare.
>>738019690>an IPC looks better than the exact same thing sans covered in pockets and wearing shemaghs
>>738019690You can't keep calling everything you don't like a tranny, words have meaning.Otherwise then practically everything is a tranny.Do you call everyone you don't like a jeet as well?
>>738019841what's up ESLnig, I'm guessing Polish on this one
Thanks for letting us know you are from twitter
>>738003058so why arent they playing the game
>>738019301Germans were Christian while the Soviets were Atheist. Your Jesus just watched as his "children" got raped to death lmao
>>738020021They're stuck in traffic and there is a war in Iran, chud!
>>738019960I call people i don't like stuff I dont like you fucking sneakerhead
>>738020063>Soviets were AtheistOnly on paper, lmao.
>>738019941Yes because she has a better overall design compared to what bungie made
>>738018027who isn't below the jewish tumb?
>>738020235The Sentinelese.
>>738020063ALL Europeans are fucking cucks for abandoning their native indigenous religions for a cucked up foreign kike religion.
Surprised that PC was the main platform
>>738003169damn even old ass ARMA3 has more players rn (12k)
>>738018634Remember the Marathon short film that focused on Glitch, Locus, Assassin and Blackbird? Blackbird/Recon actually seemed curious about what happened to the people of the colony while the Assassin guy was being all stoic and wanting to get the job done. Blackbird/Recon could have been like the stealth protagonist trying to solve what happened to the colony or at least actively looking for clues while everyone else are just doing the bidding of the various corporations and factions.
End Bungie
>>738020220>she has a better overall design>literally the same fucking thing but with a mans face as a maskWhat exactly goes through someones mind to say my robots with tits is better than your robot with tits.
>>738018906>Now let's watch the shills pretend these posts don't existI'm an unpaid shill and I made one of those posts.
LOL
>>738020470>>738020351>m.jpg
Add a separate PvE mode or get dissolved by Sony. Those are the choices for Bungie no matter how much the remaining 5000 PvP psychopaths screech and stomp their feet. Multiplayer games all inherently die without casuals, this the undeniable truth that PvP subhumans can't ever seem to be able to accept, that they are a tiny minority without any value.
>marathon shills are jewsi don't think anything shocks me anymore
>>738020607>evil redman fucked my wifelol
>>738020470there's the choice to NOT pick that character you know.
>>738020351why didnt they go with the left one
>according to ai companies that make "estimates" based on how many times a game gets searched for on google, marathon was a hit!
thank you for confirming once again this had under 2m saleswhen it needs quadruple that just to break even
>>738020359Fine retard ill put more effort in my post>marathon>overall body shapes closely resemble more humanlike shape>round body's curve thighs etc with the exception of the think having retarded leg joints>they look more human than robot>titanfall>more robot oriented with visible joint sections>almost feels like scavengers quickly assembled the body without putting finer details on it>military grade markings>face is looks like a plastic mask instead of being an actual face with the capability of expressing emotionTitanfall did it better
>>738020778I'm glad they didn't. It's so generic.
>>738018151>it's a cinematic game with nonstop cutscenes and slow walking segments>'gameplay' that plays itself for accessibility Wow so it's just like my $80 AAA games.
>>738020470Your artistic masterpiece, sire.
>>738020607imagine the sweaty freaks who played Trials of Osiris, now imagine you can only play against them in a shooter for the rest of time and there are no alternative modes other than Trials. that's marathon in its current form basically
>>738003291Isn't it illegal to lie about sales? Or at least lying to investors.
>>738020852>they look more human than robotBecause they are? They aren't robots, that's the first thing you see in the first cutscene when you boot the game.
>>738020968I wouldn't know i dont play it but it makes sense now why they are so ugly lol
>>738018906Do you see this and think "black person"? Completely sincere question.
>>738020954Ampere data is not official. Bungie and Sony have not announced sales numbers for a Marathon. Sony has a earnings call next week where shareholders may receive genuine data.
>>738021073>I wouldn't know i dont play itI can tell
>>738020852>overall body shapes closely resemble more humanlike shapeBecause they're biological entities you dipshit. They're biomechanical with organs and vascular systems hosting a (once) human consciousness.>more robot oriented with visible joint sectionsThis is in Marathon too, you're looking at humanity+ and getting angry they're not as basic as the mooks you're mass slaughtering.>face is looks like a plastic mask instead of being an actual face with the capability of expressing emotionBecause it is a mask. The character is in Apex, dipshit, go read their expanded lore and look at their now humanoid skin after their event.>>738021073>I wouldn't know i dont play itClearly.
>>738020728>You can play as George Droid instead!
>>738018634and the chinese woman is a worse Apex's Wraith
>>738020303TRVTHNVKE
>>738021229>go play apexKill yourself i don't play slop
>>738020728He looks fine in-game, anyway.
>>738021282
>>738021237>Body customization>You can't actually customize your body
>>738021229Wow those robots look like shitBungie had better robot designs with the vex and tower BotsWhat happened?
>>738003058>finally get a game that LOOKS unique (even if it doesn't look good)>the game itself is a shit money sink nobody likes because it's more awful GaaS garbage and not a good game>if (when) it finally gets shut down, game devs will take the wrong lesson from this and double down on boring, basic art stylesFeels bad man.
>>738021534I think if they scaled back the neon barf artstyle by 3-4 degrees and actually made a PvE game with optional PvP zones as an endgame activity Marathon would probably be doing Witch Queen numbers right now. But Bungie hired a moron like Joe Ziegler so you get what you get.
Erm...... why did Bungie kill destiny 2 for a game that has the same amount of players 2 months after launch?
even arc raiders is dead and it was touted as a gigantic unexpected successwhat made bungle put all their eggs in an extraction shooter basket?sony aint gettings those billions back
>>738018526>"Shit art">Posts on of the most beautiful screenshots of the game I've ever seen
>>738021308I hope you don't play an mmo, teamfortress, or gacha in the big 26 with a statement like that.>>738021459>wow those robots look like shitIt's a shell entirely comprised of scavenged materials off of mass manufactured security and construction bots; I'd be surprised if it looked good.
>>738020890yeah i'm glad they went with something ugly that people actively avoid
>>738021204>>738021229Sorry guys I just buyed boughted it and well after having a blast I all of a sudden changed my mind and now the characters dont look ugly wowie zowie
>>738021979>Lego vomit architecture set against a PS4 skybox is the most beautiful thing anon has seenembarrassing
>>738020914Good analogy tbqhAt least in arc raiders, for better or worse you could escape the sweats by simply being friendly
>>738021979Oh you mightve not seen the bottom part anon hope it helps
>>738021979You shills cannot be real
>>738022040Hey champ, glad you finally gave in and played something that wasn't comprised entirely of underaged girls for once.
>>738022015>gachaNah>team fortressUh oh jealous aren't we?>mmoHaven't played one for a bit
>>738021793>made a PvE game with optional PvP zonesThe game's entire appeal is that it's a fast paced, movement heavy PvP shooter. UESC bots work right now because they're an obstacle, a PvE focused game would need way more enemy variety than what Marathon has right now. If new modes are needed to appeal to a wider audience, Bungie should lean in on the PvP aspect and add an arena mode with deathmatch and CTF, and/or a forge mode for custom maps. Tie currency and rewards to it, encourage extraction players to take a break and wind down with arena modes while giving arena players some currency and salvage they can use in the extraction mode.
>>738022227Im not a /v/ bot who plays gacha slop niggaIm a destiny GOD now KNEEL to siva
>>738020728Yes, I control the games I play.And Marathon won't be one of them.
>>738021137When I see the first face in the character roster that's very obviously a black man based on the composition of the eyes, nose, and mouth? Of course I think 'that's a black guy' when I see a black guy. Are you stupid?
>it really is Destiny ex girlfriends throwing a tantrum that causes all the forced hate onlineFigures
this isnt the bungie that made halo 3.just like veilguard isn't actually bioware.
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>>738022472But why did the game flop and lose 85% of its players in less than 2 months?
>forcedJustifiable* FTFY
>>738022265>Uh oh jealous aren't we?Yeah, figured.Anytime someone is overly antagonistic and has dogshit opinions they admit they still play it.It's like knowing someone plays Roblox when they look and act like a groomer.
>>738022476Halo was always trash and I'm sorry your parents wouldn't get you a real computer
>>738020954>use 3rd party sources for press>quietly disclose real numbers for boring investor meetingsvery few will listen to the quietly disclosed part if a youtuber doesn't shout it
>>738022543I mean the same thing can be said about people with dogshit tastes that play marathon so its not like your any better lol
>>738022350anon i'm sorry but appealing to maybe an average of 15,000 or less PvP freaks is not going to cut it in the long term, leaning into more PvP playlists that will further splinter their dwindling playerbase sounds like an amazingly bad idea that bungie would actually come up with.
>>738022525it's a niche slowburn hardcore return to form experience o algo
>>738022543Remember all the melties over Deadlock last year that exclusively originated from tf2roons? Meanwhile dotards, from the game that actually "competes" with Deadlock, were the first pioneers and settlers.There's something wrong in the head of anyone that plays TF2 in current year, they always have a huge insecurity and anger against every other game.
>>738022525Because uhhhh, people already finished the battlepass and seasonal stuff so they're waiting for the next season to come back.>why don't they play just for fun then?Why are you such a chud? Let people play the game however they want
God I cannot wait for the melties online when all their progress is wiped. This shit will actually die for good
>>738022472hm was it the destiny 2 bogeyman or did the market at large reject your shitty sweats only meat grinder. that's a tough one to figure out
>>738022747When does that happen?
>>738021979nigga
>>738022684>Season 2 will save the game!>We'll be blasting again in Season 2!
>>738003058To put this into perspective, Halo 2 sold almost that in day one. I forget the exact number but it was over 1.5 mil copies.
Your reminder that the only content coming in season 2 is a night version of an already existing map. I am not joking
>>738022937and probably a fuck ton of cash shop items that they will attempt to quickly shoot off to actually make money from this burn pit of a game
>>738022995>>738022937That sounds like my classic bungie seasonal slop experience
>>738022472>forced hatethey had a free playtest and half the people dropped itone fucking day laterthe game is mid and has no staying power not even the shill streamers are playing it
>>738022937there's also 3 new weaponsbut yeah, i think that's about it
>>738022909Put it into even more perspective: when Halo 3 launched, every alternative media industry (television, music, books, movies), plummeted in sales. Halo 3 grossed $170 million on its first day of release, rising to $300 million in its first week; meaning it sold 5 million copies in its first week; while being exclusive to 1 system.
>>738023085it's crazy that bungie fumbled this gen x nerd dad pandering garbage so hard they actually lost players lmao
>>738022681>There's something wrong in the head of anyone that plays TF2 in current year, they always have a huge insecurity and anger against every other game.It's actually insane, I've had a number of youtube videos pop into my feed with interesting premises on politics and after a few minutes they devolve into incoherent rage fueled ranting and baseless statements about people they perceive as the problem while tf2 is playing in the background.It's comical how how mentally and emotionally stunted they are to the extent you can pinpoint them.
>>738003058And it still needs another 11 million copies to break even!They will NEVER recoup the budget spent on this turd.
>>738023264the ESL shills and chosen marketers will be saying it sold 5 million by next week probably
>>738003760Doing better than I thought.
>>738023264which budget? the one to buy bungie or the one they spent making the game?
>>738022823Start of June, I think.
>>738023356my nigga tahnit will keep himself safe when the game is sunset before season2
whens the wipe again? I cannot wait to see the already low amount of players plummet on that specific day
>>738022937>>738023149>all the content in season 2, that lasts three months, is one map and three gunsNo way. I refuse to believe it's that little.
>>738023351The budget spent on developing and marketing the game.The $3.7b to buy Bungie is something separate entirely.
>>738022869The game will flop in two more weeks kekbroDon't be a panican
>>738023456bungie loves to underdeliver while pretending they're doing you a favor, a classic even from the destiny 1 days
poor shazamfags, they're really starving for attention
>>738023456There is also a new class and something called the Cradle system. Here is the official roadmap.
>>738023356Tahnit has now arrived at the 'don't question product. just buy and get excited for more product' phase of coping.
>>738003169>this is the studio that made Halo 3
>>738023356>marathon dads are actively dissuading players LOL
>>738023351Rumors are that the game budget alone was $200mil. This alone puts sony deep in the red. The cost of getting the studio is a cherry on top.
>>738023561>"and more"those words are doing some heavy lifting
>>738023561>cradle systemappropriate for this babby game
>>738023561Why isn't the player wipe mentioned here
>>738023561That REDACTED is giving me huge highguard roadmap vibes
when the reddit chunguses and bungie dads are doing the doomposting you know the game is approaching the rope with great haste
>>738023741>babby game
>>738023823>what Arachne gives you for being a homicidal maniacSome garbage, a WSTR which you get early anyway>what CyberAcme gives you for being a good boy and teaming up with randosEverything
You think it's possible that they forego a reset as to not upset the dwindling player base of this game?
>>738023817>when the reddit chunguses and bungie dads are doing the doomposting you know the game is approaching the rope with great hastelmao pics?
>>738023693it's just gonna be bugfixes or cosmetic shit
>>738024028Reset is somewhat needed to purge the game of resources and have a ramp in point for newplayersheh...They might do away with it in the future, but not before the panic addition of a pve mode at some point in S2
>>738023817t. reddit chungus bungie daddyReddit Chungus Bungie DaddyREDDIT CHUNGUS BUNGIE DADDYHEROES IN A HALF SHELLTURTLE POWER
>>738023770Don't want to scare the few players they have left.>>738023795Highguard bros, we'll go to our graves without knowing what the Xmas Surprise was going to be.
[Sad News] Paul has completely given up on Marathon
>>738023679real people can tell the whole "dads of marathon" thing reeks of psyop. they're just gaming journos with a new relatable wholesome chungus branding.
>>738016767All the made up strawmen in the world don't change the fact that the numbers aren't anywhere near where they need to be.
>>738024028Resetting vaults is good and intended to remove the full Compiler squads from the game.Resetting quest and faction progress is retarded and I guarantee they won't do it.
>>738024357it's less complicated than that, it's just carryover branding from the dads of destiny clan which is itself carryover branding from world of warcraft clans for parent chunguses
so the game is making no money and bungie has thousands of employees.mass layoffs when?
>>738024579if marathon does not get mentioned in the upcoming playstation earnings call you can bet that the layoffs are being prepped in the background
>>738024405>and I guarantee they won't do it.LOLExcuse me but we are talking about BUNGIE here. The people who double down on sunsetting and in general other horrible changes throughout destinyThere's no way in hell that they won't double down for quest resetingIf they want it they are doing it. Not unless the surviving content creator community rally against it because there were times stuff like that happened but it will most likely only happen for season 3 and not 2
>>738010580warner bros was getting 30 million dollars back for canceling coyote vs acme after spending 70 million on it. tax shit is retarded.
>>738024660Sony not mentioned Marathon doesn't mean an investor couldn't straight up ask about it during the Q&A, like what happened with Ubisoft and ACS where the Ubisoft execs were really butthurt and defensive and refused to talk about numbers.
>>738024579I feel like Sony might be reluctant to fire them because of how much money they spent on Bungie. Sunk cost fallacy and all that.
>>738005631>20%kekif this game sold 2.2 million copies, which it didn't, and I rounded it up to a profit of 90 million dollars, which it didn't make, that would be less than 2.5% of the ~3.8 billion it needs to make to appease the money Sony wasted on this studio.
>>738024754Sony gutted its own internal game divisions in Japan with great abandon and already took a project away from Bungie, I would say they are not reluctant to do anything.
>>738008151Is this post intentionally stupid as bait, or genuinely retarded? I can't tell.
>>738006558I'm trans btw
>>738024579no, they're just charge more for PS+ and maybe another price hike for PS5
>>738003058Didn't the server slam happen in the month it was launched?
>>738024818Even if it made $90m in revenue (which is probably 3m units sold), it's still less than a third of the way toward the break even point ($250m estimated). And every month that Bungie has 300 people on Marathon, that's another $4-5m of salaries that make the hole even bigger.
>>738024948at this point just build a PC even if RAM is expensive, prices will stabilize eventually. or, just use your existing PC for like 10 years (no one can build a cheap PC now)
>>738003058Do people buy PS5s and not use them? How is Xbox basically even?
>>738025068I would imagineLook at all of the snoys that come to /v/ instead of blasting
>>738024684I'm just saying that it always made no sense. Nobody wants to do more naked Rook garbage collection runs just to have a decent vault size and stamina bar again. There is an entire system of the game (bartering) that is unusable for most players because barely anyone maxes out their factions.Will Bungie make the logical choice? No idea.
>>738009462>Latin a e i o uwhats Latine? thoughbeit
>>738025229>I'm just saying that it always made no sense. Nobody wants to do more naked Rook garbage collection runs just to have a decent vault size and stamina bar again.And I agree with you. Im just saying that bungie doesnt really care what you think unless your a content creator with 10k people who agree with your opinion. I didnt want star wars or shitty microtranctions or my gear I spent so much time farming for just to be useless and forgotten in favor for recycled slop but I never got what I wanted because I dont have a influence. I can guarantee you that there's probably like 8k people and half of which that dont even play the game agree with a content creator of some kind that thinks quest progress reset is a good thing and should be kept to encourage more gameplay or some stupid bullshit around the lines of that and bungie will get that feedback over the other thousands of players going against that. Its just how it is with these developers
>>738003058so why hasnt bungie said anything?
>>738025780Teams to busy jamming chud
>>738006558The game does nothing other games don't already do. Its just br hero sloop but you bring guns in. Its shitty apex
>>738024983It was two weeks before in late feb, i wanna say
>>738025068xbox owners dont even buy games outside of military shooters and sportsball. indie games don't even reach triple digit sales. they do better on epic games, they did better on the wii u. i enjoy xbox games but they are horrible at marketing anything.
>>738025229It’s fucked up because the bartering system is actually good, once you’ve finished all your upgrades at least. Then every purple salvage translates to a purple shield or 2 for a purple gun. Between purple m77s for turbines and purple shields for a replicator I haven’t bought anything from the armory in a long time, ammo and meds aside. Feels terrible bartering for anything and risking losing it when there’s still upgrades you want though, and at least half of the player base will maybe get a couple weeks to enjoy bartering for good equipment
>>738009332YOOO I WAS HERE AT THE START
>>738022681tf2 was heavily invaded by troons, furfags and other scum so is no surprise that the "community" spergs and seethe about everything :(
>>738018440>foid doesn't understand menmany such cases
>>738019342its really easy to see whether something is good or not.Crimson Desert, Wukong, Stellar Blade? not even the whole media apparatus could do anything to themMarathon, Veilguard, Concird?Not even the whole media apparatus could save them. Its funny but you really can tell what is good or bad by how hard the media shills for it/hates it
>>738024734They will deflect heavily if any questions come up about the state of Bungie.
