>game has split pathsThis is just an excuse to reuse assets
>>738010385I mean, is that necessarily a bad thing?
>>738010385>more content>less dev timewhat's the problem here exactly
>>738010562>>738010945It takes away dev time from each route and makes the game overall less polished as a result.
>make all the assets from scratch for every chapter, yep this is a good thing
>>738010562Interesting hidden split path
>>738010562Zoomers hate having more content to playThey only want to speed through games as fast as possible so they can consoom the next one
>>738011859I've become like this and have 4 games (+3 wishlisted) and 71 books to read until I am happy.
Hector mode was never supposed to be equal, you have to beat the game once to even get it. Just post a 3H screenshot like I know you wanted to since it's much more true there.
>>738012887Okay
There are more differences between Eliwood/Hector Mode than all 4 routes of 3 Houses
>>738013136niggergard's route is sufficiently different from the other 3
>>7380131363 houses didn't need to waste dev time making the routes unique. They just needed players to *feel* like they were getting a unique experience, since the vast majority only plays it once and will simply assume the other routes offer different experiences. Quite sneaky, really. KT even admitted in an interview that they didn't expect people to replay the game lol.
>>738010385FE7 is actively held down by the existence of Lyn mode since it's boring as fuck, caused both of the main modes to be shorter than usual (slightly over 20 main chapters instead of the usual ~24/25), and completely guts all of the Lyndis Legion members' stats for the main campaign if you don't play it.
>>738010385The way you're supposed to play FE7 is playing Lyn first, then Eliwood Normal being surprised it's actually a story about Eliwood, then play FE6, and then play HHM to understand that FE7 was really about Hector all along.You are not expected to play A Glimpse in Time at any point, it's clearly not meant to be stumbled into organically.
>>738014315FE8 is much shorter because it has 1 gaiden chapter.
>>738011062>It takes away dev time from each routeOh, please. FE7's "split paths" are just two chapters.
Selena's butthole tastes good
>>738014664FE8 has a lot of bloat too with all the Valni and Lagdou Ruins maps that nobody actually plays. My point is that having to make a bunch of extra maps does indeed have a proven toll on the quality of the main campaign itself. 3H is even more egregious on this front.
>>738015149then how did conquest turn out so good when it had two other routes to co develop?
>>738015149tower and ruins are just a handful of repeating maps copied from the main campaign, its nothing
>>738015218Conquest was designed from the ground up to be the "gameplay first" entry of the two Fates routes with Birthright being intentionally dumbed down to compensate. The consequences of that are pretty clearly seen in the end products.
https://youtu.be/EdHp3MmoXSI?si=XOWzzGbc8E4-sf1J
>>738015218by putting the interns to the other game
Is birthright as bad as people say?
A new Tellius huffpiece just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Qpzg_lunc
nohrian trust mage build kinda breaks down when you reclass it to a physical class without the rank to use offensive skills or magic weapons. it'll still probably help kill the pegasus.
>>738016236It's alright, it's just easy to become too good at the games to enjoy it for what it is. It was especially fun to play in the relay desu.
>>738015760>>738016271buy an ad
>/v/ anons are making fire emblem youtube videos>they suckSo these are the people getting units killed in the relays
>>738016360no kaze you retard you killed too many enemies you were supposed to learn replicate here and then reclass to malig, now i have to reset and aggro less guysalso it's kinda silly how hard the beast killer fucks this chapter. in my case it fucks it too hard.
Remember when Fire Emblem had dignity?
>>738010385You shut your whore mouth.
>>738016928>Fire Emblem>dignity
>>738014315Lyn mode is a great short story with plenty of room for character moments and CG spam. There is plenty of variety within the missions too. Its full of soul
>>738016901that's more like it
>Floor switches are introduced super early in FE7 in a tutorial>They only come back at super late in FE6 to knowledge check youIs this unfair design?
>>738017724you're out of your mind if you don't think I'm shelter singing so that corrin gets all 3 level 20 kills.
>>738017724How are you planning to get both shurikenfaire and trample?
>>738018028surikenfare? I'm getting replicate and trample. replicate self attack stance with forged blessed lance one shots faceless on the final map as a wyvern lord even on enemy phase, and getting into vantage range is as simple as standing in range of the takumi AOE.
>>738018376my stupid child just made the last group aggressive on the next enemy phase.
>>738018890with a grand total of 20 attack the late game mage squad is online
>>738019364extra gold bars. corrin will never use this but kana will hold onto it. if I'm dragging senno's ass around for bars then i think a single kana ability slot is worth the same.
>>738016928Why is Ilyana thinking about Lyon?
>>738019832I'm probably not going to have room/even have recruited these guys in endgame but more options is never the wrong choice
>>738020106the most useful thing gunter has done with this fire tome is trade it to camilla
>>738018028oh i forgot he also gets strength + 2. not sure if it's required.
HOLYYYYYYY KINOOOOOOO
>>738015530I see the time honored tradition on the internet of just posting things that are obviously untrue is alive and well.
>>738020594takumi killing +10 spendthrift and profiteer for kana gotten, time to go back to a class I'm built to be in.
>>738021667life and death fixes kaze and his noodle arms but it makes his bulk even worse. his speed+vantage should be enough to keep him safe however.
>>738021875>even with 41 magic a heal staff can't fully healthe fates staff formula is unforgiving.
>>738021992unpromoted beruka is dealing more than level 17 niles
>>738014493FE7 is Eliwood's story. Hector Mode just gives some extra insights on some subplots.
>>738016271RD is great when you just look at some individual maps and the gameplay in a vacuum but as a whole package, the split army structure just absolutely kills all the other positives. Literally the only reason I don't wanna play it again despite it having some of my favorite mechanics.
>>738024091I enjoyed running through it the two times I did.Once with a meta team and then once with my Cavalier only team I always do.
>game uses same assets within itselfDid you come up with this stunning revelation all by yourself champ?
>>738016928>fujoshi bait>dignity
>>738010385>split paths>one is actually harder than the other, has different recruitable characters, and only way of seeing one getting married to his pegasus rider virgin waifu
>>738024949That's a tiny water bottle.Seriously, it's less than a regular glass of water I recon.Where did she get a plastic bottle anyway? She lives in the medieval setting.
I just made Marianne bottomless in Tomodachi and she has a nice blue bush
>>738014315Wasn't Lyn mode just the tutorial? It's been so long...
>makes your ironman safeYou are welcomed, tactician
>>738026136Yeah enemy knights are so easy to deal with it's a wonder why they keep spamming them even in modern FE games.
>>738026136nooo think of the turncounts!
Dawww they're on a date :D
>>738011859you have to understand, requiring multiple playthroughs doesn't respect their time, they need to get their platinum trophy in one run so they can check that game off their list!
Boomer Emblem was never good
>>738026120Yes, but later on when Lyn joins the main story she and her followers retain their levels from before, so essentially you are punished for skipping the tutorial.
>>738026136this but with a wybern carrying it
Boomer Emblem was always good
>>738026247Knights are still bad even if you don't care about turn counts since they're bad at killing stuff and inconvenient to get into the engagements you'd want them for in the first place. This meme that knights would be good if not for le LTC boogeyman needs to die.
Knights become better the harder the game is.
>>738010385And it works!
>>738027328>they're bad at killing stuffthat is not a bad thing, more exp spread towards units that get bonus exp from kills means more cannon fodder
>>738027908Literally made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that, anon.
>>738016928>dignity
>>738027708They're bad in all the hardest games though?
>>738028429>fe12 h4essential during the prologue>conquesteffie is very good for most of the early game before you even reclass her
>>738028547Effie is good but not because she's a knight. In fact, her being a knight is the primary cause for players dropping her at their first convenience.
Knights are good as a class, and have good characters in more games than not. Defense is fundamentally a good stat, and the moment that you reach a certain threshold in it, there's very little that enemies can do against you.The real shitters are archers, they get to have bad stats as well as the most restricted range type while barely getting any better weapons for that range.
>>738028429Good enough to carry casuals playing the game for first time. If that doesnt tell they are good when retards get carried by them then i dont know what to tell you
>>738028603Nope her knight bases actually help her out in a few ways, her defense is mediocre otherwise and she wouldn't be able to enemy phase as efficiently
>>738028771She'd have better enemy phase in a class with workable speed because she'd be able to double. Her defense is even too high, causing some enemies to straight up ignore her on ch 10 where you want to be fighting as many at once as possible.
>>738028547You don't need a knight in fe12's prologue, it's just a bit easier and the high defense growth is beneficial for the rest of the game.
>>738028771It also helps activates her personal often since it gives her a lot of str.
>>738028639Even the ""good"" knights aren't consistently useful throughout the games they exist in. Knights are only good if the maps let them, i.e. the chapter layout and/or objectives gives them easy to reach objectives that don't need to be pushed through quickly. It has almost nothing to do with difficulty.
>best girl locked to NG+I will never forgive them
>>738028910Knight kris is objectively the best option in h4, you can do the prologue using an archer or something but you will be drastically less consistent
>>738028649You can't say casuals when /v/ is made entirely of 1337 players who never lose a relay
>>738028895The only enemies that will realistically ignore her on 10 are the pegasus. Her high defense allows her to singlehandedly take on the 5 archers and the spear fighters on the right. She also makes 9 pretty easy with a javelinHer enemy phase would be pretty awful on chapter 10 with worse defense, even if she's doubling it doesn't really matter if she gets 3HKO'd by the oni savages or the archers
>>738029174Except for all the times they did
>>738028895>causing some enemies to straight up ignore her on ch 10 where you want to be fighting as many at once as possibleSkill issue, enemies ignoring you can both be easily circumvented (unequip def+2) or straight up be beneficial (switch the pairup lead to Effie and have her be completely safe in the middle of enemy lines)
>>738029198>Her high defense allows her to singlehandedly take on the 5 archers and the spear fighters on the rightWhy would you not send her south lol.>Her enemy phase would be pretty awful on chapter 10 with worse defenseKnight has worse defense on ch 10 because you get sealed after not one-rounding lmao
>>738029280>why would you send her to the part she handles well instead of the part where gets her defense sealed?Sounds like you answered your own question there
You will never convince me knights are bad and I WILL use them in every game. Deal with it.
>>738029385Insecure knightkek cope
>>738029342>why would you send her to the part she handles wellNigga it's a one-tile chokepoint with archers. Who doesn't handle that well?
>>738029045I like knight kris but cav kris worked fine for me as wellWhat do you think of merc kris?
>>738029280south is where most of your army will be, there is no need to send half of your army to the right when one does the job fine
>>738029280>Getting sealedJust kill him in one round, he's a shitty soldier that you can isolate.
>>738029420you are boiling lmao
>>738029426>Who doesn't handle that well?Anyone with shit defense?>b-b-b-b-but the archers will be stuck there and deal no damageAnd then they'll get to move and become annoying once takumi lowers the water level
>>738029473Insecure knightkek projection
>>738029385This
>>738029420>going against what is commonly agreed upon is a sign of insecurity now
>>738029492>Anyone with shit defense?But Nyx and Odin can both solo that with nosferatu easily. Fucking Selena can take on archerkeks with a beruka pairup. The fact that yu are bragging about Effie fighting the least threatening part of the map by far is comical.
>>738029432Every Kris that isn't a knight has a moderate chance of bricking your run in the prologue if they don't get good level ups. Knight is the closest thing to being rng proof though not entirely
>>738029576>easily>high chance to miss and dielol
>>738029580Me when I plug my ears and tell myself knights are good over and over until the facts and logic go away
>>738029505Though this for the humour
>>738029576It's the least threatening part of the map because Effie makes it irrelevant by soloing it
>>738029630Only one archer can attack at a time and they have weapon triangle advantage plus guard gauges. I have never once had Odin die fighting the entire right side by himself, even when I use a shitty pairup like Elise and no tonics.
Isn't nosferatu just a meme in conquest? Enjoy your 85% hitrates
>>738013136Jesus christ you're right. Wtf were they thinking with 3Hs
>>738029746Heartseeker, retard
>>738029781Heartseeker doesn't work at 2 range lol
>>738029781Meme skill only used by shitters.
>>738029715cool story bro but numbers don't lie. they do face a chance of dying soloing there with nosferatu
>>738029579I think you can tolerate bad levels, the risk is more about getting a 2% crit at the wrong time
>>738029579No Kris build can brick you in the prologue, it just can make it harder later on. Knight is good but there's classes like fighter and cav that can clear it just as well. It's really just the extra def growth that makes it the most useful long term.
>>738029843Nope. If you use tonics, there is a 0% chance of Odin dying with nosferatu on the right.
>>738029856No it can definitely brick you. Of course if you don't care about reliability you can just reset over and over until you get every hit you need, which is what anti-knight LTC fags do anyway.
>>738029878i've known players who used tonics and they were all cowards
>>738029878frfr
>>738029746Out of the four native dark mages in Conquest, only Nyx performs poorly with it. The actual "problem" with the spell is that it falls off badly unless you dump all of your spirit dusts into one super mage. Likely a blessed Odin or Ophelia.
>>738029928If you don't use tonics it's probably like 5% with an average Odin and suboptimal pairup. If you have a wyvern Elise pairup I think it's back down to near 0% even without tonics.
>>738029915It literally can't, what are you talking about? At most it makes some of the prologue maps more difficult if you pick a really shitty class like archer. This is all besides the point anyway, which is that Knight is not mandatory for the prologue at all.
I let Odin and Nyx/Elise handle the left. Silas/Selena fuck up the right and everyone else handles the bottom. Works like a charm every single time.
>>738030008Why would you waste your elise to just be a pairup bot for odin lol
>>738030008>gambling units on 5% when a safe option is availablelmao
I only was able to recently to defeat Takumi in 10 in a recent replay of Conquest. I think what I did was basically use Corrin and Camilla to kill him. What is the most reliable strat? Or is it even that worthwhile to defeat Takumi in that map?
>>738030081The safe option is to use tonics. I also use tonics on Effie so that's a given.>>738030072Elise isn't doing anything too important as a troubador so it's more about building their supports and giving Odin guard stance. Anyone works, really.
>>738030045I love how hard you moved the goalpost from "knight is a bad class" to "knight is actually very good and i can't dispute it, but maybe not strictly necessary if I reset when I get bad rng"
>>738030185>Elise isn't doing anything too important as a troubadorYou said wyvern elise dipshit
>>738030286Normally you fags whine about wyvern Elise and say she's way better as a troubador so I was just assuming that was what you meant. In that case just give him Nyx or something if you were actually planning on using Elise elsewhere.
>>738030185Except healing and boosting people with her personal
>>738030384I'm not going to give him Nyx either because i'm using him as a pairup bot for my magic Corrin
>>738030480Oh so you're just bad at the game. Glad we sorted that out.
>>738030531Cope
>>738030227Oh Knight is still a bad class in FE12, don't get me wrong. It's just useful in the prologue (not mandatory by any means). Terrible once you get into the main story maps and only gets worse.
>>738030531?
Romhackers already established that if you want a good armor knight then you're cloning Oswin in overleveled frontliner fielded for the first act or you're making them gimmicky.
>>738030565>It's a bad class even though it's the best class in the hardest part of the gameLTC spergs are strange creatures.
>>738030576What game has based black ginger woman? She any good?
>>738030637>only useful for a couple early maps and garbage everywhere elseSounds like a pretty bad class to me. Fighter and cav beat prologue just as well and arguably better btw, and they don't fall off a cliff immediately once you can actually change to other classes. You armorfags should learn to take whatever small wins you can get instead of trying to turn into some grand cope that they are actually le good. Armor knight is a bad class in FE12.
>>738030576>punished Jill
>>738030972No one said they are garbage
>>738030972>"only" useful for the hard part of the gameYou lost
after observing these threads for 2 months I have become convinced that your average fe player is a midwit that doesn't know how to do anything but enemy phase with built up characters.
>>738030565It's best to reclass out of knight after the prologue but general is useful in several maps.Killer lances in chapter 6? Kris tanks that. Also a bunch of ridersbanes in early chapters.In the midgame you might reclass someone into general during the dragon arc.And Arran should reclass to general if he can.>>738030972Cav is good. Figher sucks.
I want to FUCK Lyn haha
>>738030741Homecoming, she's your second armor who you recruit just right before the midpoint of the game. Usable, has rare support with the dark mage you get at the same chapter, ready to instapromote and will hit enemies hard, but you probably already benched your first one, maps tend to hurry you up, she has 2 base speed (even with meme 90% growth) and the mages here are especially glass cannon-y so they will murder her often. if this is a joke about her race it appears pretty much every time Homecoming is discussed you aren't original
>>738031164>enemy phase with built up charactersGalaxy brain is realizing that that is how skilled players play Fire Emblem, and only noobs insist on timidly player phasing everything, because they know nothing better.
>Fighter >better than knight in h4 prologueThis guy didn't even play the game
>>738010385It did more damage in FE8 than it did in FE7. FE7 was just the right length of an FE, FE8's plot was way too short as a result of them fitting in the split paths and creature campaigns.
>>738031328player phasing is more exciting and requires more thought. enemy phasing is less interactive and lame.
>>738031328No one does that
>>738031468watch the average relay player and say that again
>>738031467Hard FEs will not let you enemy phase everything outside of life and death ophelia or similar bullshit. You still want to maximize EP so you have less to deal with on player phase
>>738031335Maybe he's talking about low turn counts
>>738031467>requires more thoughtNot really. Any dummy can deathball and pick off one enemy unit per turn. Optimizing multiple units to to kill as much as possible each turn is somewhat taxing in comparison.>>738031468I do.
>>738031516You mean the same players dying to enemies during enemy phase every single time?
>>738031516Most deaths were from enemy phasing. When they weren't everyone would call veto
>>738031817This proves enemy phasing takes more skill and shitters die trying to do it. case closed
apparently general sedgar is actually bad. The next player should reclass him.
>>738010385Hector Mode is literally just a bonus NG+ mode
>>738031817This is proof that EP combat is riskier. You have to actually know how to do first grade math to survive an EP.
>>738010385hot take: reusing assets is fine
>>738031594>>738031817>player phase deathballer tries to enemy phase once for a change>dies because he's bad at it and can't do math or risk managewhere's the lie?
>>738031851Weren't you saying noobs don't enemy phase?
>>738031817This isn't even from a relay. I posted this from my current FE6 playthrough which isn't an ironman.
>>738031965>>738031328Here
>>738031975That wasn't me but I agree with the sentiment, the fact that they die trying to do it proves they lack experience
>>738031975The essential character trait of the chronic player phaser is "punished." Rather than learn how to overcome a dastardly enemy phase, they shrink away from all enemy phases based on negative experiences, opting for the safe comfort of the slow, deliberate hoard instead.
>>738032081your pic proved him right though
>>738032091So they do enemy phase or else that wouldn't happen
>>738032148Isn't he enemy phasing in that pic? He said noobs don't enemy phase
I must be a genius because I fight on enemy phase AND on player phase
>>738010385Split paths in the middle of the game is better than the completely separate routes like they did with fates and three houses as we can see that 2/3rds of fates routes were complete garbage and all of three houses had mediocre maps.Branching paths at least doesn't overextend the team and allows them to fine tune the stages
>>738032324I mean, yeah, really this is the answer. I'm always surprised by the number of anons that swear by total avoidance of significant EP combat, though. EP action implies player phase action, but player phase action doesn't imply EP action. It's a weird hill to die on - missing out on a majority of combat opportunities as "the way."
>>738010562It can be, yeah. Like Three Houses. Most of the routes are largely reused, so when you go into other routes to see the story changes and new supports and all that you mostly have to play through what's basically the same game. It's to a point where I'd say it's a detrimental factor for Three Houses, it's hard to say "just don't play the other routes" when you need to play multiple routes to actually see the full story. Three Hopes was better about that since the routes actually felt unique, so hopefully Fortunes Weave is less samey (assuming it has routes).
Try it with player phase. And then if that doesn't work, rewind and try it with enemy phase. And if that doesn't work, do it all again.
>>738032148>noobs timidly player phase>8% chance of deathThat is not timid at all and it is also definitely not a player phase
Now that we agree that enemy phase is overrated we can agree that archers are therefore the best classes in the series for having access to the best weapons against the second best class in the game
>>738032834>posts a gba archer
>>738032834Archers don't have axes though
I don't care about unit classes or stats. I just use the characters I like even of they are shitters. Pic very much related
>>738031547/v/'s favorite game conquest forces you to enemy phase. in fact when the map design does favor player phasing /v/ complains that it's bad.>>738031580player phasing with low def units that can't survive enemy phase is far more tactical than just throwing units that you know can't die at the enemy.
>>738032865Only way is up
>>738032965>conquest forces you to enemy phaseYeah, you have to maximize EP and PP, which is what a good game should make you do
>>738032928What about when my favorite also just happened to be the best unit?
>>738033036any game that encourages ep is encouraging juggernauting. the series encourages it in general, but enemy phase centric games make it mandatory instead of optional.
>we're finally admitting enemy phase is important in Conquestlife is healing
My favorite unit is mid as fuck and I will always force you guys to use her in FE7 relays because it makes one guy seethe with rage.
relay?
>>738033124If enemy phase is "optional" the game is probably garbage
>>738033036I want to max my PP...
>>738033142Nah, you can just turtle and quit the game at chapter 10
>>738033207in player phase friendly games it's like xcom where having to enemy phase is punishment for fucking up your player phase.
>>738033207DSFE inflicted a derangement on the fanbase. People think it's superior and enlightened game design when the density is so low that you never need to kill anything on enemy phase.
ranked runs will force you to maximize player phase and enemy phase but you don't really want to play like that
>>738033212here you go bro
>>738030576>Gilliam better than BorsI will not take this slander.
>>738033263You can play any way you want and then quit after chapter 10, because the game peaked there and it only gets worse.
>>738033321I would say maximizing EP will make your life a lot easier in FE12, thinking the game is exclusively player phase focused is a misconception
>>738033352They also force you to hoard like a retard and arena-abuse.>>738033393Conquest has several chapters that are as good or better after 10. Real fans know this.
>>738033456you don't need to arena abuse
>>738033482You're incentivized to.
>>738032834Enemy phase being really good started with FE7 and ended with FE13. All the games in between are javelin/hand axe fiestas and they all suck.Player phase based games are infinitely superior, which is why FE6 is the best GBA FE.
>>738033450So then why are we still larping that enemy phase is a bad thing in 2026, when the most PP-centric game in the series still has an enemy phase component?Enemy phase combat is the aspect that most defines FE gameplay, that everyone likes to hate on for some reason.
>>738033516you don't need to
>>738033535>started with FE7
>>738033538I don't know, probably because someone said player phase "takes more skill" once or something and everyone ran with it, even though enemy phase is the one thing that threatens you and forces you to make strategic decisions
>>738033321bitch I player phased every formation in fe4. I didn't even know what people were talking about when they said it was a kill everything with your lord game because why would I let one character steal all the exp from everyone else?
>>738027328>they're bad at killing stuffThey stopped being bad at that from FE7 and onward. Oswin, Gatrie, Effie and Louis are among the best units in their respective games.
>>738033535>Enemy phase being really good started with FE7 and ended with FE13This is extremely naive. The very example you gave of a "player phase based game" is extremely EP heavy. Enemy phase has been of enormous importance since FE1, without exception. No GBA or Kaga game is "player phase based" in any meaningful sense.
>>738033456>Conquest has several chapters that are as good or better after 10.Fucking lmao.
>>738033684So you played the game poorly
>>738033456Only 7 have you hoarding everything. 6 is the better game to rank
>>738021101Damn it’s almost over?>>738029580My eyes look like that and I seethe like that too
>>738033819Ch 12, Ch 16, Ch 17, Ch 23, Ch 26All top-tier along with 10.>>738033875FE4 is the only one worth playing for ranks.
>>738033829no I played in the most fun way. you played the soulless braindead way.
>>738034095I don't find anything fun in making Arden, Ayra, and Alec take potshots, anon
>>738034095Can we agree its bad game design.
>>738033578>cherrypicking the chapter with the most reinforcements in the gameYou can enemy phase the early chapters with Marcus I guess if you're going for 0% growths, but the map you posted is really fucking hard with prepromotes.To get Alan and Lance to the point where they can enemy phase that amount of enemies requires a lot of deliberate XP feeding, and guess what phase that happens on if you don't want a counter attack?>>738033759>using thracia as an exampleLemme just enemy phase these sleep and berserk staves real quick that inflict statuses that never go away :)>>738033715FE1 is genuinely enemy phase heavy, I will give you that, but FE3 Book 2 and FE4 have enemies that hit like fucking trucks, especially early on. Once you get Forseti, just enemy phase the whole game, but a significant portion of the game before that point throws dark mages with Hel and other absolute nword enemies that will chunk your units for like 1/3 if not 1/2 of their HP.
>>738034006Boat boots is a terrible chapter though and you FORGOT the stairs
>>738034140using ayra is super fun. she goes in like a missile and kills shit.>>738034181no any game that forces you to juggernaut is bad design because it's inherently a soulless way to play.
Enemy phase good.Enemy phase Fire Emblem.Enemy phase forever.
>>738034261Ah yes, Lachesis with the light brand and 3 hp, a true juggernaut of our times.
>>738034006I can never take anyone recommending Takumi's Wall seriously. It's a linear slog shaped like a snake. And there's only one snake in Fire Emblem I like.
>>738034224>but the map you posted is really fucking hard with prepromotes.That Alen had Zelot-tier stats and he didn't get hit a single time. Garret can stand on a peak tile and be practically impervious to damage.
Why is it when there's a FE thread some faggot just posts their gameplay? Like every single thread? Why? Play the game? We don't even need to see, you're not even stuck? Why does FE attract the weirdest faggots?
>>738034327What are you even calling juggernaut, is a unit that's able to survive 3 enemy attacks a juggernaut? You might as well say you can only tolerate games that never pressure you and let you turtle so your nino can soak up all the exp in every map
>>738034435>NOOOOO STOP POSTING GAMEPLAY I NEED TO COOMcry lol
>>738029764just spend 5-10 minutes in between chapters running around the school and interacting with all the ! bro whats the problem
>>738034395>muh linearIt's not? You can fly over the ravineNot like a linear map is necessarily bad if the enemy formations are interesting
>>738034478Who said anything about posting coom?
>>738034435That is Sylveonfag. He's mentally ill. I don't mind because it's harmless and it's better than goon posting that would takes its place instead.
>>738034505Yeah, you can skip one bunch of enemies on the left if you either make half your army into fliers or waste several turns.And that's the "good" part of that map. It's boring.
These threads are so much fun for posting hot takes I like 30% believe in to hear how you guys react. I gotta stop arguing for the sake of arguing and go to bed.Good night /v/ FE friends and sorry if I riled anyone up genuinely.
>>738034395The reinforcements can get really overbearing and the enemy formations have cool stuff like lunge counter archers. Also it stonewalls retards who think the game is "player-phase focused".
>>738026249Me on the right
>started with FE7
>>738034574The map is full of threatening enemy formations, I thought player phase was amazing or something, what's the problem here?
>>738034595Most of these arguments are rehearsed at this point. We're going through the motions. Need news on FW. There is literally nothing to talk about.
>>738034665Yeah, I know. That's why I find it boring. There's two ways to play that map.1) Go left.2) Go up, then defend from up and the left.Imagine if Chapter 10 wasn't fought on three sides, but only two, and one was only accessible to fliers. And the enemy doesn't have fliers themselves.That's Chapter 23.
>>738034224>FE3 Book 2what? enemies barely damage you early on, as the game goes on you get ridiculous stats with the starsphere, linde can nosferatank, enemy dragons can't pierce tiki's defense and get hit with super effective damage
>>738034360should've given her elwind and a defense ring
What is the correct way to deal with the left side of conquest ch26?
>>738034717Anons should do something other than relays. Maybe a romhack, if these fucks at something awful could make one, this broad could too.
>>738035228Beat the right side and then open the door from the bottom and kite them around the map to separate the faceless from the stoneborn. Honestly not sure how they intended for you to do it.
>>738034437you are looking at it completely reversed. the number 1 rule for playing fire emblem any way is to not hit end turn when the enemy can kill someone. if you are using an enemy phase strategy that just means only attacking with units that mathematically can't die. it doesn't matter if all of the enemies die or not because you are completely safe, and they will probably kill themselves while attacking into you anyway. if you are player phasing you have to commit to wiping the most of not all of the enemy formation because you have to move vulnerable characters in to attack, and the only way to ensure they survive is by killing everything that threatens them before you hit end turn. this requires far more planning than enemy phasing which only requires simple math.
>>738034574the map is fun because it's one of the most open conquest maps and has no gimmicks aside from ballistas. that's all it takes to be good when the alternatives are ninja hallways and wind bullshit.
>>738035532The only reason you'd be able to avoid enemy phase altogether is if the enemy is never pressuring you in any way, and therefore you can just turtle your way up the map slowly.
>>738035228Looks like they have 45 atk. You could straight up walk by them with a gigatank, 45 is simply not very high. These fags have like 50?
>>738025271shut the fuck up sorenfag you flaming cock-sucking homo faggot
>>738035658Their attack stat is not the main problem. they have poison strike and other nonsense, and lots of rangeThe bottom room is a lot easier to deal with.
>>738035651no, you avoid enemy phasing by killing as many enemies as possible during your player phase, which you can't do when you spend half of your deployment limit on backpacks and benchwarmers that you never allowed to get exp.
>>738035658They also have seal defense and poison strike/savage blow. I think the massive rock stoneborn have like 51 attack so you'd need 57 effective defense to survive.
>>738031371reddit moment
>>738035649Sure, but the person I was replying to said it was on the same tier as chapter 10.No, it's not. It's just not as bad as stairs or caves.
>>738035767I still don't see what the could even do to a Xander with like 50 def, even he was on 1 hp.>>738035821>so you'd need 57 effective defense to surviveThat is pretty high but doable if you stack super hard
>>738035889>That is pretty high but doable if you stack super hardBut even if you do go all that way, if you open the left door with someone they can't damage, they'll just run past and attack the rest of your army, right? Idk I just go right every time.
>>738035778>make your player phase harder because you're too stupid or stubborn to efficiently kill enemies during EPSeems like a self inflicted problem
>>738036005I've never done it either because I don't see the point, the Sorcerer room is easier. But I don't imagine it would be that hard to bait and crowd control them. They're too monotyped and phys tanking is easy in Fates.
>>738035889>Xander with 57 defenseIs that even possible realistically? I'm pretty sure you would have to plan your entire run around that and even then I don't know what you'd need to do exactly
>>738036073>I've never done itYou could have just said that bro
How many units do you train in conquest?assuming you don't do any paralogues/invasions/etc. and excluding the dedicated pair up bots
>>738036083You wouldn't even be able to give him defense rallies since he's off on his own. Sounds like a tough threshold to meet even with tonics and shit.
>>738036021no you got filtered by the higher difficulty but more rewarding playstyle
>>738035228the second maid i dont remember her name, use her innate
>>738036226Yeah playing like a retard tends to make the game harder
>>738036182everyone without reclass
>>738036083Got a save? Anyone got a relay save of 26? I'll do it right now and share with the thread
>>738036335meant 4u >>738036143
>>738011859why is this a bad thing? we live in a time where there is more media than you can consume in your lifetime easily accessible. replaying the same game over and over is a relic from a time where your parents would buy you a handful of games per year and you had to get the most out of them.
>>738036335>relay save>chapter 26
>>738036771One relay did make it to 26, though it was in considerably worse shape than the one that got red lobstered.
Cutesythea
>>738035274We should make and sell a FE game. Someone pass around srpg studio and we'll all make 5 maps each. Also, they are releasing SRPG Studio 2 in November!
>>738036393How is that replaying the same over and over again when the content is different?I'd argue split paths with identical chapters are a waste until the paths converge though
>>7380361822.5, mommy and me, with xander as the .5
>>738036182>assuming you don't do any paralogues/invasions/etcWhy would you assume I don't play a third of the game?
>>738037065regays warped discussion here. now people think you can only play vanilla ironman no dlc conquest and ignore like 75% of the content. like, no way boss, i'm going to grind astrology shard in echoes until i can combine them and dread loop into level 3 overclasses. Why? because I CAN and because I PAID for it
>/v/ is now defending dlc
>>738037219I don't use DLC, but I don't see why I wouldn't play the child paralogues I worked to unlock.
>>738037065I expect you to be an expert and that involves multiple playthroughs. I've already played with all the extra stuff so I want to get a sense of how the meta changes when you skip optional fights.
>>738037458Train one takumi killer and skip as much of every map as you can
>>738037458nta, but ta: >>738037010skipping maps just makes the top tier units better because they need less
>>738037458>being an expert = skipping maps for no reason
4chan moment
>>738037739>>738035847
>>738010385>This is just an excuse to reuse assetsAnd the problem with that is?If one path is a complete game, what's wrong with adding another?
>>738037798I don't know. Why are you even asking what the problem is?
>>738037582Yes, you should know how strategies change if you don't play lyn mode.
>>738038038According to who?
>>738038038Lyn mode is trivially easy free experience. Conquest paralogues are significantly harder than the average main story chapter.
>>738038117me
>>738038124>Conquest paralogues are significantly harder than the average main story chapter.this is what i meant by the regays warping people's minds. isn't it GOOD that there's a challenge? why don't you learn and grow and try again with better tactics? aren't you excited for your shiny new unit?
>Get to Invasion 2>Spendthrift Merchant spamLame
>>738038183Nigga who are you arguing with? I do play the child paralogues. Hell I even do Siegbert's.
>>738038183I didn't realize the relays banned paralogues. The mozufags must have been disappointed.
>>738037010>>738037581Do you mean you heavily invested in those units? I assume you at least trained Niles for pass/rescue.
>>738038234carry on sir>>738038253you'd get vetoed if you tried to play one that's considered hard
>>738038401We got Ophelia in like every run and that one is pretty hard.
>>738038387I don't like BDSM fags so no Niles, but yes, I gave the resources to Camilla, Corrin, and Xander.
>>738038387>I assume you at least trained Niles for pass/rescueNot necessary, like at all
this looks and feels /so/ wrong
>>738038627I keep forgetting to attach my images
>>738037913Because OP implied there was one
>>738016360Forging +2 bronzes makes it a lot less painful to be stuck in E-rank. Using unforged weapons at that stage of the game is a mistake in general.
>>738038696Where
>>73802974685 is plenty with block gauges + Conquest loves to stack attack ranges so that you're usually nosfertanking at least 1 melee unit at the same time.
>>738038712learn english
>>738038948Ok. Now what?
>>738012887>>7380130093 copes is better than 3 houses
>>738034395The wall is a kino map for micro. I think only the opening turns of the boat is more fiddly with having to plan your order of operations to player phase groups of enemies.
>>738038708Yeah bronzes are overpowered, but resources are limited. You might need to ignore a mineral or two so you can focus on daggers/tomes/axes
>>738038994get better
>>738039250Ok.Now what?
>>738039176>microcease throwing around random terms from other games and fields. there's no "micro" or "macro" in FE
Marriage with Marianne!
>>738039080>3 copes is better than 3 houses
>>738039176>I think only the opening turns of the boat is more fiddly with having to plan your order of operations to player phase groups of enemies.the boat is braindead. you just move xander + charlotte down right beneath the merc/hero/whoever is standing to the right of the pillar on the bow side, then everyone else takes the mages and wyverns
>>738039540That doesn't work on Lunatic
>>738039540>wyverns???
>>738039582yes it does. i do it every time and he's never been close to dying. he can EP aggro that half turn 1 and a few low level cucks like keaton or selena can mop up the trash while the rest of the army goes left. >>738039595i'm pretty sure there are flying wyvern pairs on the left with berserkers and mages
>>738039389Will IS finally give her a seasonal this month?
It's Friday guys, get comfy.https://youtu.be/BNVg9nO2R0o?t=1303
>>738039742>i'm pretty sure there are flying wyvern pairs on the left with berserkers and magesNope. Fighters, zerkers, mages, and sorcs on the left.
>>738039806re >>738035847 tard
>the boat is braindeadWe're just saying random words now, huh?
>>738039742How does he tank the mobile Shining Bow adventurer that's statted specifically to kill him?
>>738039984Not him, but if you have a speed pairup or Azura dance he doesn't get doubled and can just one-shot after tanking a hit.
>>738039806https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0rh0fC2VI
>>738039984the guard guage and >>738040030
They should make Warp and Rescue be able to effect enemy units
>>738040220>Rescue be able to effect enemy unitsEntrap
why does benny just not get classes through friendship. he only has two cq friendship supports and neither of them provide him with a new class. even in rev they gave him diviner through hayato. what the hell?
>>738040290he's an ugly male armor so he's low priority
>>738040290I don't think they actually planned out the friendships in terms of class offerings. Jakob is another example of someone whose only friendship options give the one class change he already has. Some characters got randomly blessed, and some got randomly screwed.
everyone write ONE arc/chapter plot for /feg/'s strategy game. trips gets to name it. NO meta shit.
>>738040773loli kete island
>>738040290yeah, Benoit is an unfortunate case. at least he's already in his best class.
>>738040290Obligatory armor humiliation ritual. See: Arden.>>738040469I think they did consider classes as well as characterization. A lot of characters get exactly what they need, like Rinkah getting Diviner and Orochi geting Oni Chieftain from Rinkah - perfect symbiosis.Another example is Charlotte getting Wyvern from Beruka and Cavalier from Peri, which are both things she wants. But in general, with such a heavy focus on retainer dynamics and a lot of classes just not being very good, some characters are bound to draw the short stick.
>>738040824what happens there o-o?
>>738040924:)
>>738040220>warp for enemiesthat's just an instakill with extra steps
>>738040865I think they focused entirely on character writing and completely ignored class-changing because I don't know how you end up with multiple characters who get literally nothing otherwise. Some of the ones just happened to be good since there aren't as many classes to choose from as one might imagine.
>>738040830>Benoit
>>738041036and his son Ignis
Chris Benoit
>>738039283realize you were wrong
>>738041249How could I be wrong?
>>738041006Benny's problem is that Fighter is just a super common talent among physical, non-royal, first-gen males in Conquest.His only other potential A+ support partners are Laslow, Odin, and Niles. Odin gives him a bunch of magic shit and I guess Heartseeker, total meme. Niles would give him...Movement +1? Laslow would give him...Merc skills, cool.There's nothing you can do for him, really. He just has a shit class set and bad stats.
>>738041303Oh, and I guess Jakob and Kaze could have supported him. Eh, knife classes.
>>738041291by not understanding inference and implication in english
>>738041303It's not about whether it'd make him good or not. It clearly wouldn't. It's just that they didn't even bother giving him anything.
>>738040469What’s wrong? I thought /vfeg/ liked unit identity?
the child personals are too conditional in fates, like nina's +2 dmg when 2 male units are adjacent and paired up is not something that's going to be relevant
>>738041303Hero Benny from Laslow would be pretty cool as an A+ option. High DEF + Sol.
>>738041380Anon, what is there to give him though? Maybe Silas would have been the best? Elbow Room...everyone likes that. Again, a lot of overlap with what he already has though.Maybe the issue is his heart seal option. They should have given him Wyvern or something I guess. He'd be terrible at it, but it's a cope option.>>738041442He has Sol already.
>>738041386Getting shit-all for friendship doesn't increase unit identity. A unit like Jakob especially would be a lot cooler if he had actual male friendships to take advantage of due to the quirks of his internal level.
>>738041394yeah they really half-assed the child unit's abilities
>>738041394>Ophelia's personal skill requires that she keeps 3 tomes in her inventory even if she's not in a tome-using class
>>738010562Reussing assets would make a world feel less immersive, and it also means they are padding the playing time instead of making it consistently fun from start to finish. But this is a prequel, so recycling the world makes some sense.
It's Inigo, Severa, and Owain. STOP using their made up names. >>738041465He's tranny Corrin's butler, he's a LVM that most players weren't expected to use. He's BARELY better than Flora and Ignatius.
>>738041504One of the better ones honestly. It's just a trivially worse version of Odin's.
>>738041549What does that have to do with my post?
>>738041374Are you sure I was inferring or implicating anything instead of just making generic thread to definitely not talk about a game that is supposed to be on another board?
>>738041584I think the point is that joker is such a late join there's no reason to think about scrimbloing him. who is going to build supports on someone who doesn't join until chapter 19?
It's Lazward, Luna, and Odin! STOP using their dub names.
>>738041584That Benny, Jakob, etc don't get good identities because the dev team rightly assumed no one would care about them. If they published unit frequencies like 3H did then they'd be at the bottom like Hanneman and Cyril.
>>738041656He is THE earliest joining character in the game if you choose fCorrin.
>>738041659Lazward sounds like something you'd say with a mouthful of ice cubes
>>738041659>he posted, in English
>>738041394some are bad but soleil, percy, siegbert are good
>Jakob doesn't have good unit identityWhat the fuck am I reading?
>>738041701Already explained o algo. you were NOT expected to pick the feMC and marketing material like the smash reveal compared to engage's ring show this. People were less gay back then.
>>738041715ラズワード、ルナ、そしてオーディンだ!彼らの吹き替え名を使うのはやめて。>>738041767彼の本名はジョーカーです
>>738041767>male felicia
>>738041656>joker>>738041659>>738041813>
>>738041830He is arguably better than Felicia. What a weird point to make, when the two are mutually exclusive anyway. It's like saying Pokemon Red lacks an identity because it's "red Blue."
>>738041879It'd be like saying Gallade is better than Gardevoir when clearly Gardevoir was expected to be more popular
>>738041949Gallade didn't even debut in the same game as Gardevoir.
>>738042002irrelevant non-sequitur THOUGHthe fact that felicia and jakob are mutually exclusive is the entire point. felicia is corrin's early game maid. jakob is that other one who you get later and bench.
>>738041465>early inspiration and tomebreaker>corrin pair up>fast friendship with corrin and only needs A rank to friend seal>can marry someone for another classseems fine to me
>>738042145>fast friendship with corrin and only needs A rank to friend sealNot how it works. You do not get shit for friendshipping Corn. Corn is just a class magnet.
if male kamui was expected to be the default choice whey did they make him look like such a zesty faggot without shoes?
>>738042118Anon, you being an incorrigible gooner does not mean Jakob lacks a distinct unit identity. He has the coveted earlygame class Cavalier, a different stat profile from Felicia, and a kid tied to him. Choosing FCorrin is the only way to pass on skills like Replicate to Dwyer.
>>738042243you're supposed to be pick femcorrin
>>738042310>Choosing FCorrinis not something the devs expected anyone to do. Jakob wasn't a high priority in the devs' eyes for that reason. I don't deny that he is a physical unit unlike Felicia though.
>>738041879>He is arguably better than Felicia.And he's also arguably worse.Congrats.
>>738042243He doesn't wear shoes and has long unkempt hair because he was the long desired manakete lord, an ANIMAL
>Choosing FCorrin is not something the devs expected anyone to doAll right, I'm going to back to reading now
>>738042243>kamui
>>738042197my bad, he's worse than I thought.Anyway I feel like he's still worth dragging around so you unlock an easy paralogue.
>>738042458btw the reason why corrin and azura are both barefoot is because they wanted to flex the 3DS's limitations and totally not because of foot fetish reasons mkay?
>>738042535the OG names are better. cope.
>>738042701Yeah. One of the biggest mainstream criticisms of Awakening was that the characters didn't have feet
>>738042779Xander is better than Marx.But the Leo shit will always be funny.
>>738042779ONLY true for Leon/Leo. The If Nip names are awful otherwise. Elfie? Mozume? Marx? All retarded shit.
>the OG names are better. cope.
>kamui
>leo
>>738010385>"I'll change my life starting tomorrow"This is just an excuse to reuse assets
>>738042458Anon, Fates is literally the most gooned-out, weeb fanservicey game IS has ever produced. They had zero expectations of any woman ever playing this game.
>>738042882Yeah, I think the name Beruka sounds bad in English. I can't blame them for adjusting that one
Use JP names for Hoshido characters.Use English names for Nohr characters.Done.
>>738043068Congrats anon! It is amazing to see you as your true gender
>>738042882>guy with a H belt buckle>harold? no his name is arthur
>>738043159Did we ever learn Mikoto's real name?Surely Valla doesn't also use japanese names.
>>738043232What does that have to do with his name being better in English? Arthur being a justice obsessed faggot makes more sense. If they weren't lazy, they'd give him an A on his belt.
>>738043090Why lie like this? There are women (biowomen) who play the game. Plus not everyone is a self-insertfag. To me the choice between Fcorrin and Mcorrin is a choice between which girl I want to start with, Felicia or Corrin. And also a gameplay choice.
>>738043453The point is that the 60 year old nips making the game did not expect YOUR kind of gooner faggotry and thought people would want the male MC and pick (your) wife and child. Nowadays, they do.
>>738043490>canon names
>>738043303Not everything needs to screaming in your face lacking subtlety. Arthur + variants has been used too many times, too, and Harold not once.
>>738043520You are so retarded, man, shut up
>>738043597you're retarded for thinking IS gave a shit about the female audience 12 years ago while making fates
>>738043541!!!
relay
regay
>>738043678Zoomer
>>738043789Go ahead
>>738043678this. femcorrin appeals only to gays who like femboys, not women.
>>738043852m!corrin***I'm too used to typing femcorrin...
Regay never ever
funy piture
>>738043901we've replayed the regays too many times
>I can only judge characters by how much I want to fuck them but I would never ever be addicted to porn I promise
>>738043789Sedgar is already invincible, we basically beat it already
Last Promise relay
>>738044002We already did that
>>738010562Fates happened so yeah
>>738043901I'm playing Troubleshooters right now
masturbation relay
>*ruins your plot*
>>738044049Based, that's a much better use of your time. I need more people to play that game so Dandylion doesn't go out of business.
https://poal.me/mu7mc7
>>738044049I'm playing mahjong
>>738044196kys
>>738044182yet roaming FE threads like a ghoul is a good use of your time? kek
>>738044196i dont get it
>>738044049I'm playing SMT4
>>738044245>go to /v/>FE thread at the top>click on itWow, that was hard.
>>738044291Suuuuure not even you believe that bull
>>738044031the franchise peaked at Conquest
>>738044253The red button is sex with dragons and the blue button is sex with dragons but you have to wait in line
>>738044319That's actually how I got into this thread. Was the first thread on the board.
>>738044319>too afraid to say "bullshit"
>>738044407Need more bimbo frog.Or just FE bimbos in general. Hilda. Corrin. Seidr. Whoever.
I believe this bull
GAWDS
>>738044339weird way to say 3H
>>738044546bimbo implies she's dumb. frogleth is just hyper-autistic.
>>738044339weird way to say Thracia
>>738044646Fair, I guess. She has an airheadedness about her, but I should use Shez instead.
>>738044657literally no one thinks thracia is the peak
>>738044751I do
>>738030576I'm kinda surprised there isn't any of the Sword of Heaven and Earth armor knights on here.
>>738044751damned close honestly
>>738044751'peak' is arguable, but it's my favorite
>>738044781you're brown so it doesn't count
>>738044823Thracia is a white man's game doe
>>738044727rather than bimbos, FE needs more titty monsters
>>738044860Thracia is a yellow man's game howeverbeit.
>>738041879>when the two are mutually exclusive anywayno they aren't
>>738044884Which is why Vanaheim needs a game.Every single woman from there was like a K-cup. Even as kids, Eitr and Kvasir were like E-cup.
>>738044905nobody played Thracia when it came out
>>738044997You know what I mean
>>738045128Kaga played it
>>738045128The SNES games were actually very popular in Japan, more so Genealogy.
>>738044031What's wrong with fates? I only played through the first campaign so far and it had cool maps
>>738045206>he doesn't knowThracia wasn't. It was a digital SNES game sold in 1999. You couldn't only even get a physical copy if you bought the limited edition.It was a financial disaster, and not popular like 3 and 4 were.
>>738045206fe3 (1994) and fe4 (1996) were fairly popular. fe5 (1999) not as much
>>738045225fates is 3 completely different games but in general is hated on by the fanbase more than it should be
More nips have played 776 than whites and you are deeply retarded if you think otherwise.
>>738045318it's hated because it's 3 different games
>>738045359only raging homos hate conquest so you can freely trash their dogshit opinions
>>738045476>conquestbab cope
>>738045225Fates was too ambitious for its own good. It's similar to Three Houses, though the reuse in that game is significantly more egregious. Revelations in particular reuses a ton of maps from Conquest and Birthright, and it has terrible balancing too. I actually don't hate Birthright, it's just inferior to Conquest.
>>738045225The previous game had a mixed reception: popular among casuals, unpopular among old FE fans. To avoid losing either audience they split Fates into multiple routes with different design philosophies. Birthright is a better version of Awakening while Conquest is the game that old FE fans dreamed of.The third route is ok.
I've never played Revelations. What about the balancing is bad? Too hard or too easy?
>>738045569It's hard to describe without experiencing it for yourself.
>>738044407/fesg/'s poster girl <3someone generate an image of her doing the peace sign
>>738045569>What about the balancing is bad?The units are given seemingly at random. So like you're doing a map where all enemies are level 15, but you get Nyx as her base class at like level 4. And they didn't boost her stats. And in some cases, they lower them.Also, the maps that aren't recycled are all awful gimmick maps. Like waiting on elevators or shoveling snow.
>>738044884bimbos are titty monsters
>>738045569Shit is just jank, clearly rushed and unfinished, the extensive asset reuse does not help that feeling.
>>738045569It's the gameplay equivalent of being bored while stabbing someone
>>738045650There can be smart tittymonsters. Breast size doesn't make a bimbo, it's the attitude. The carefreeness, slight stupidity or ignorance, and willing to do lewd things.So like Corrin, Eirika, Byleth, etc.
As a lurker I like how in these threads there are always two entirely separate conversations going on.>anons discussing the games somewhat civillyand>melanin enriched gentlemen spamming their coombaitand rarely do the two intersect.
>>738045738>tfw I'm doing both, but not crossing the reply chainsI'll shittalk Revelation any day of the week.
>>738036393Then play it once.
Another thing about Fates is that it has the first 6 chapters as shared between all routes. Excluding Paralogues that means each route has like 23 of its own chapters, shorter than a lot of other FE games, so reusing chapters in what is already a short game is even more unfortunate. You just can't help but think about what if Fates only had two routes with the third route's development time dedicated to them. We could have had like 5 more CQ chapters.
>>738045669damn lol
rev is fine for eugenics players. it's DLC, so use boo camp if you MUST use kana or nyx
>>738045875You can just Skirmish endlessly too, it's gold positive. I guess Boo Camp is probably faster though.
>>738045875Rev is just a 100% Completion game. That's the only thing it has going for it.
>>738045875I like eugenics but not in rev. It's too grindfaggy.
>>738045692anyone who willingly turns themselves into a titty monster is automatically a bimbo. Sorry, that's just how it is. Not every bimbo is a titty monster but every titty monster is a bimbo.
>>738045962>anyone who willingly turns themselves into a titty monster is automatically a bimboOnly if it incurs an Int/Mag penalty.Also, a girl can be flat and be a bimbo. But she needs massive Res stats to have a giant ass.
>>738045738As a gameplay fag, I do waifupost occasionally.
>>738045738You can't blame this on browns when one of the most prolific goonniggers is always going on about how white and blonde he and his babies with blonde FE women are
>>738045875DLC shouldn't be required or even encouraged in a golden route. just stop giving the player under-leveled shitters and let people enjoy their pay-to-play experience.
>>738034261>game where enemies avoid characters they can't hitHe was correct. 4 ai is too smart to make enemy phase good.
>>738046045the alear spammer is literally an ESL seamonkey
>>738046061Rev is DLC so complaining about DLC in DLC is nonsensical. I agree with >>738045942
>>738045738dumb frogposter
>>738046061I'm 100% positive the DLC campaign was designed from the ground floor with the assumption that the vast majority of players who shelled for a third version of the game were already balls deep in the other DLC.
>>738046086Only matters if you have Forseti. It's really not a big deal.
>>738046116No, it was designed to make completionists want to buy more DLC. They started that with Awakening.
>>738046061The golden route was dlc, bro.
>>738045807>Excluding ParaloguesWhy? Conquest is a huge, cognitively demanding game, it doesn't need more chapters.
>>738046107>no capitalization or punctuationThe eternal signifier of the brown zoomer.
>>738046107>dumbfrog poster
>>738046086They fucked up implementing this. One of the reasons I like Arthur with Forseti more is because his lower speed means his avoid is actually low enough for enemies to still attack him. You can just put Seliph in leadership range and it will bring their hit rates to below zero, yet they'll still attack.
>>738046107Eh?
>>738046090So what's the Hortensia spammer? Brown too?
>>738046160>it doesn't need more chapters.it does though. your top units hit 20/20 like a map or two before endgame, but if there were 5 more chapters you could get eternal seals and have more fun with reclassing, child units, and the non-royals
>>738046212Absolutely.
>>738046184Yeah even Forseti Arthur is pretty borderline on matching enemy hit with his avoid so he still gets targetted a lot. It's literally just Forseti Lewyn/Ced that struggle with not getting targetted.
>>738046184Doesn't make much of a difference unless you're doing ranked runs, I'll kill these 30 Wyverns in 30 turns. Just send Sety in and let them surround him.
>>738046220>help I can't scrimblochrist
>>738046265not what I said. and conquest is neither long nor cognitively demanding. conquest takes like 12 hours to clear tops.
>>738046265That is actually one of the issues of Revelation, yeah.Its selling point is that you get everyone (but Scarlet), but you basically can't use anyone but the royals due to the balancing.
>>738046086This is why they gave FE5 a hit rate minimum of 1
>>738046284It's a huge, intense game, like objectively. Stop being a faggot and enjoy it.
>>738046116more like Rev was rushed and that's why units like Nyx appear at their default level (or just woefully under-leveled in general) despite it being chapter fucking 15
>>738046231You people are so deep in your delusion it's crazy
>>738046368everyone I don't like is brown
>>738046220There's like 45 chapters in conquest if you do all the optional stuff. If you do the main story only, it's 28. That's more than enough 'bonus' maps.
>>738046323it's by no means huge. other games in the genre have way, way longer campaigns. i do enjoy conquest but i'd enjoy it more if i had a little more time to engage with reclassing because the way it works is that you want to get the last skill from 3 different classes, you need to reclass at 11, get skills at 12/13/14/15, reclass, get skills at 16/17/18/19, then reclass and get a final skill at 20. it's extremely tight to make a default/friendship/partner build work.
there's no age cutoff for bimbos right? asking for a friend
>>738046478>you want to get the last skill from 3 different classesMaybe you weren't intended to get the last skill from 3 different classes?
>>738046478Conquest is a solid 20+ hour game on replays if you do even a few child paralogues and interesting builds. Where does this asinine notion come from that longer games = better? One of the problems with Engage and 3H is that they're TOO FUCKING LONG. Just completely padded out with total bullshit.
>>738046483Nope. This one is officially like hundreds of thousands of years old, and she counts. And a milf, too.
>>738046538maybe I WANT to? for fun?>>738046545if it's quality then more quantity is better
>>738045807I don't think the length is a problem, especially since most Conquest paralogues are pretty much full chapters by themselves. By the time you finish the game you're ready to be done. It's not like FE8 where you finish the game with unpromoted healers and half your party at level 4.
>>738046615>maybe I WANT to?Then go through the steps you mentioned and work for it ffs.
engayfags are brown
>>738046664i do? it would still be better with 5 more maps and an eternal seal
>>738046691These people probably skip Endgame, fuck em.
>>738046478why not use an extra seal to get the lvl5 skill early?
>>738046772no warpskipper is a friend of mine>>738046797you're only saving 1 le
>>738046772Nope. I like that levels are a limiting factor in skill acquisition though.
>>738046884>level at the cost of an extra seal, it's not economically viable imo*
>>738046545>Where does this asinine notion come from that longer games = better?retarded zoomers unironically think like this
>>738046928If you're going to end in the class that you started in then you can Seal at level 5 promoted, stay in that class until level 15, go to another class for 4 levels, and then end in your final class at 20 and it doesn't cost you any extra Seals to do so.
>>738043232>can't see the belt in game unless tou scroll down to the guy's crotch during the not-facetouching partsIt's a non issue. The localizers likely never did that for that one random guy
>>738011859>zoomers hate more content>>738046959>actually zoomers want all the contentwill this board make up their mind on what the narrative is?
>>738046994isn't that the same number of skills though? you need to use an extra seal if you want to pick up an extra skill although resealing earlier does make the timeframe less restrictive until the final 5. i would reseal at 11 because generally the original class is better for units like camilla
>>738047023Longer game = better game is definitely a newer paradigm, but it doesn't map perfectly on to zoomers exclusively. I've gotten to the point where the prospect of an extremely long game gives me douche chills. They're always padded to fuck with useless fetch quests, cinematic focus, and side content, rather than having a strong core gameplay loop.Unironically roguelikes and roguelites have the right idea here.
>>738046928You'll get lvl15 skills at 15, 16, and 17.If the lvl1/10/5 skills of the class are beneficial it's probably worth reclassing for early benefits.
>>738047184The usual FE length of ~23-25 chapters hits the perfect spot for me. All the games that are longer/shorter than that just feel off.
>>738047010you can see it on his 3d model
>>738047023Very long(short) games that have good content good.Very long(short) games padded by shit are bad.
>>738047152It gets you three level 15 skills without an Eternal Seal. If you need to Heart Seal from and back into your base class then it does not cost you an extra Heart Seal. You would have done all that anyway if you wanted skills from another two classes. Either way you spend 3 Seals. 1 into 1st new class, 1 into 2nd new class, 1 into old class. And sure, you can do it at 11 too.
>>738047314Once again, very small detail on one specific character. And in battle the camera is swinging around above and behind the characters so you'll never get a good frontal view unless you specifically look for it.It *shouldn't* have been changed from Harold, but it was. And it's not a problem.
>>738047216>>738047336I see...
>>738045128to be fair that was more of a distribution and end of console lifespan problem than a quality problem
boobtensia
>>738047675SEXOOOOOO
Mae thread next
>>738047023>excessive padding>contentlol
a complete fire emblem team has 3 units. no, i shan't elaborate.
>>738047808speaking of excessive padding... >>738047769
why does my somniel look like a brothel?
>>738047834those are REAL chud
>>738047960hottest girl in fates
>>738047972ok furry
>>738047568>end of console lifespanMore like the end of the NEXT generation console's lifespan. The gamecube was the following year
>>738047914The artist they hired for her winter alt was based as hell giving her jugs.
>>738047960>breeds an underage dragon boy>gets away with itMicaiah seethes in the chair
>>738047769What is Hortensia Chan going to be gentle with...?
>>738047960Give Zelestia Slop!
threads fall off the catalog at armor knight speeds now
>>738047769she can do it
>>738048174dogshit fetish
>>738048489Is it a fetish or a canon event if she's the only person to agree to be the lover of Kana?
Last for Marianne's messy blue pubes scissoring Hilda's clean shaven pink girl part
>>738048587do bigtensia next
ngage/boobtensia OP?
>>738048763Yeah a new boobtensia dropped on danbooru today kek
