what the FUCK is he hiding from us
>>738013797Ralsei knew kris for several years before the game, they were even closer than kris and noelle at one point, and as much as he likes susie his entire relationship with her is predicated on that first initial lie when he first met her (I have no friends and have been alone here my whole life)
>>738013797He doesn't want us to know Suselle will be a thing so that we don't kill ourselves
>>738013797The magnificent 12 inches
>>738013958I believe it. I don't trust that nigga Ralsei
>>738013797I genuinely don't think Ralsei is hiding much from us outside of the entire prophecy after 4. Maybe whatever connection he has with Kris and why he looks like a Dreemurr, and his fire magic.
>>738013958Ralsei tea healing Kris for so little really makes me doubt that. Plus Ralsei lying about his loneliness is pretty hacky.
>>738013797he seems intent on getting Noelle and Susie together yet is against the player and Noelle going to the festival together.
>>738014496>I genuinely don't think Ralsei is hiding much from usit's a quality over quantity situation
>>738013797>what the FUCK is he hiding from usa twelve inch schlong
>>738016762More so he's against Kris and Noelle being alone in general. He possibly knows about our weird routes.
>>738016887Makes it weird that he proposed splitting up when you reach the city in chapter 2. Especially since proposing that is what enabled the weird route. Even if "leave kris on his own" wasn't an intended option the more people with kris, the less means we have to pull to shit.
>>738013797his genderRalsei is actually a nerdy girl and has the hots for Kris but she knows (you)'ll lose your marbles if you find out and go for her route all day every day ruining the game Theory
>>738017063He proposed for Kris to take him or Susie, not for him to be alone. That was all Susie. I'm sure if Susie or him were with us, the weird route wouldn't have happened.
>>738017145>Ralsei is a girl even though the game calls him a boy and he blushes when Queen talks about her royal breasts
>>738017063you also gotta remember that Ralsei knows that (you) are there and we make Kris say what we want for the most part. the weird route is explicitly (you) and Noelle growing stronger together
>>738017170As I said, even if "leave kris on his own" wasn't an intended option, the more people are with kris, the less means we have to pull shit. You don't look at someone who you know mustn't be left alone (especially knowing they're in a dark world which noelle is in) and then suggest they walk around the less people.Fact is if Ralsei hadn't suggested splitting up, Susie wouldn't have derailed the options and the weird route wouldn't have happened.
>>738017145Ralsei being a girl would nuke the community and probably the entire planet
>>738014390What is this ralph bakshitale and where can i get more
>>738016875
>>738016861I mean, outside of us not knowing the entire prophecy I don't think what he hides matters that much.>>738016875>>738017498Very cute and funny girls.
>>738017265>Implying she wouldn't be a dyke like most Toby women.
>>738017660Would you eat Spamton's burgers? (20% real [$#!#])
>>738018868Yes, I trust my funny spam guy.
>>738013797Speaking of hiding shit. I'm surprised we haven't had any real leaks over the course of these long few years. Toby's team must be getting paid top dollar to maintain such good opsec.The only ''leak'' I remember was that one pic of a devs desktop that had icons of ch3, 4 and 5 on the taskbar.Also, Ralsei will go full schizo in ch7
>>738017385Ralsei probably didn't know Noelle would join the party and what was the right path. Honestly Susie is more at fault here, she would've probably want to go to the new path no matter what.
>>738019098>Ralsei when Susie is on her period
>>738013797He KNOWS that Kris KNOWS that he KNOWS that Carol KNOWS that they all KNOW that (YOU) don’t KNOW.
>>738017498susie cunny!!! ToT!!!!
>>738019098Most of the team are Toby's close friends, obviously they wouldn't go ahead and leak his game. And what you said wasn't a leak, it was just someone testing the game changer feature, it was just some icons, there was no game content there.
>>738019098>The only ''leak'' I remember was that one pic of a devs desktop that had icons of ch3, 4 and 5 on the taskbar.pic?
>>738017371Not canon, Dess would've molested him into silence.
i honestly terrified that these threads are STILL somehow daily despite seemingly only being made up of a handful of anons
>>738019098The soundtrack names leaking early might happen again like last time.But a gaming news website fucking up and leaking a character like picrel again would be amazing
>>738020000quads of truth
>>738020079it was nintendo themselves that leaked that
>>738019481I assume the people Toby hangs with are the woke type who are notoriously emotionally volatile. The ones that get set off by one wrong word
I genuinely wish the worst for the Latinx side of the fandom, fucking pricks must have pissed off Toby Fox so much with their entitlement his next public word out will be on the June Nintendo direct
>>738019098>I'm surprised we haven't had any real leaks over the course of these long few years.Toby is too much of a control freak to let that happen.Also I'm like 99% sure all the builds we've seen so far were heavily edited and all past chapters will be loaded with new content when the final chapter releases.
>>738020000/utg/ is icky and stinky and full of women. at this point the most notable difference is that no one has devolved to fat posting YET.
>>738020236That's not what happened. Toby said he'd be silent for a while weeks before the "controversy" popped off.
>>738018529I love cunny!
>>738020000Don't forget, you're here forever >>738020365Based and same fren
>>738020236get fucked gringo huehuehuehuehuehuehuehueheuheuhue
>>738020226This is implying Toby isn't woke himself lmao. His friends are probably as gay as him so they won't burn bridges by leaking stuff.>>738020079Yeah, those two are the only real Deltarune leaks and they happened super close to release. I wonder if we will have a track that is as spoilery as Hammer of Justice.
Hello fellow anons, Mikefag here.I've come to rectify something I have repeated in the past:It turns out the Gerson battle does indeed have some strategies possible to be done because FIGHTing and rude busting him increases the spare meter. The deal is, the spare meter here is completely invisible and the game doesn't overtly indicate those actions result in anything in particular to progress the battle, which is a different kind of bad compared to just waiting him finish the dialogue.
>>738020310>Also I'm like 99% sure all the builds we've seen so far were heavily edited and all past chapters will be loaded with new content when the final chapter releases.Extreme cope when Toby doesn't even bother to update Chapter 1 to have the same mechanics as 2+
>>738020716>Toby doesn't even bother to update Chapter 1 to have the same mechanics as 2+Because that would require him to update it twice. You'll see. You'll ALL see.
>>738020236To be fair Toby was mostly radio silence before that but also it was really funny to see this fanbase forsake it’s proclaimed love of brown people just to defend Toby>”oh you want Toby to translate the game to Spanish, might as well force him to learn every single language while your at it. Spanish is a stupid chud language anyways so Toby couldn’t translate it without hecking defiling Kris’s pronouns.”
>>738020802Yeah, I will see that not happen in 4 years lol.
>>738020310>guys guys!>chapter 1 will totally get it's own weird route once 3+4 releases!>and it will be when ralsei and susie leave kris behind on the gate puzzle and he will backtrack to castle town and enter the heart door there and find the shadow mantle and papyrus will be there and he will remember your genocides and
>>738020715Surprised you didn't know that, but Gerson has a star mechanic. Once you reach 100 stars he is sparable. Fighting gives you some stars, Rude Busters some more and healing the most. You can actually tell how close you are to sparing him by just counting the number of stars that showed up. That's why defending makes him do new attacks, it gives no stars and thus he goes into extra turns where he automatically gets what's missing.
>>738020872You can acknowledge the logistical issues with creating a translation that's authentic to the original work and still be not racist. >it was really funny to see this fanbase forsake it’s proclaimed love of brown people just to defend TobyThis didn't happen. This is what you wanted to happen and that fact is very obvious. Your post is dripping with bad-faith.
>>738021084why not just have the damn spare bar show up like it always does from chaper 2 onwards?oh right, it would make this character moment a numbers game and watching numbers rise is evil, how could I forget
>>738021183Not him but it happened a bit, but what truly happened was the latinx calling Toby a jew which made the woke fanbase attack them.
>>738014570Kris is an asshole, and they clearly stopped associating before the game actually started (noelle doesn't recognize him, ralsei knows old stuff about kris even noelle doesn't know like ancient chocolate and the favorite sandwich, but not modern stuff) so it's likely their friendship fell apart.
>>738020625people here run off the assumption(cope) that Toby isn’t some turbo wokie purely because he never beats you over the head with it. Undyne is never actually called gay, mew mew isn’t referred to as trans, and the extent of the humans being gendered is just the they them shit. This isn’t DeltaTraveler, kris doesn’t cope and seethe about being misgendered.
>>738021243I think it's more so to keep the illusion that you don't know when Susie will actually hit him for new players.
>>738020079Man, I remember everyone here saying that there is no way that Tenna would look like that because "it's too obvious"
>>738013797Ralsei is a dog, like an actual pet dog.
>>738020310Any time spent revising old chapters is time that could be spent developing new ones. IF (and that's a VERY large if) we get updated chapters, it won't be until the entire game is out.
>>738020625>I wonder if we will have a track that is as spoilery as Hammer of Justice.On the other hand, I wonder if there will be another that will be as misdirecting as >MIKE, the BOARD, please!
>>738021290Mew Mew isn't trans, though. They're just a ghost in a doll. The humans are whatever you IMAGINE and Undyne is indeed a dyke>>738020236Toby already said he wouldn't say much last update, at best we don't have any new memes because of it.>>738020319We like 2D human women here, that's why.
>>738021285Or Ralsei is born from a child Kris, like being the headband. Better than him lying for the sake of a twist.
>>738021007I never believe in any theories about time traveling to get the Mantle in Chapter 1 because it was always way too much work for Toby. I'm still somewhat surprised we actually had an entire route to get it instead of just being an item you get in a secret area in 3.
>>738021529nigger i’ve SEEN you post on /utg/ don’t act like you’re too good for those slums or that you aren’t openly a gotefag as well
>>738021290>>738021529Mew Mew is an in-universe fictional anime character that has no indication of being a queer in any way, Mad Mew Mew is a ghost possessing a doll of said character, they're not the same.
>>738021726>schizophrenia All I said is that we like 2D women here bro.
>>738021795For some reason fags think that ghosts possessing dolls so they can have a physical body is a trans metaphor... despite most ghosts living in literal genderless dummies.
>>738021285>>738021625If Ralsei is an old object of Kris why doesn’t ANY darkner from chapter 3 recognize him. You telling me Tenna would recognize kris’ beloved headband or that Ramb would make some goofy reference to him
>>738021725>an entire routewhy did faggots started calling this shit a "route" anyway?a route is supposed to mean a path of actions that lead to a certain ending in games like this, that whole thing was just a puzzle that lead to an item that barely changes the game, a more elaborated version of getting the jevil key on chapter 1
>>738021969I think internally (like in the code) it's called the sword route, but yeah it's not really a "route" in the same way the weird route is.
>>738021878Anon, pay fucking attention to the language the game uses.Mettaton's diary uses wording that's 1:1 with how trannies describe their journey, even if it isn't literal gender transition what happened, and shit like him being kind to the tranny lion also supports it.I despise this faggotry but I don't deny it like you retards have done for 10 years.
>>738021963I'm betting hard the real answer will be something lame and faggy like "ralsei is just ralsei"
how much longer?
>>738021878well you see mew mew’s ghost starts out as the mad dummy who uses they/them pronouns and hates every but as mew mew is referring to as female… and still hates everyone. This is a trans allegory because… IT JUST IS OK
>>738022195see picrel
it's really funny that so many people interpret the ghosts as non-binary because that means their character arcs are about them picking a real gender
>>738022195For every thread. Ch5 gets delayed by an hour
>>738022239Toby just has a bunch of "they" character. I really have to doubt that every single human we have ever meet in the story just so happened to be "non binary"
>xitter tards finally picked up on people calling kris a 'she' >as expected they started getting pissy about it these joyless fucks are in for a rude awakening
>>738022423excited for the scene in chapter 6 where kris spreads HER pussy
>>738022339would Toby featuring an explicitly male/female human character make the gender autism better or worse?
>>738022423when doesn’t Xitter get mad over nothing?
>>738019165imagine if Toby gives us a moment to run in all the mistakes of the fun gang on the weird route or if Noelle just lets it all slip out why she's having so much fun with (you)
>>738021963Maybe the headband was so associated with Kris that they saw it as an extension of him. Also Tenna is the only main boss that cares about Ralsei, even making merch of him and the "popularboy" act.
>>738022423>xitterStopped reading. Go back and stay there.
>>738021969Because Toby called it the Sword Route in-game.
>>738022423Kris is treated depending on who they wanna ship him with>Noelle, Susie, any other female characterFemale>Ralsei, Berdly, any other male characterMaleBasically, they just want it to be gay. That's why Kralsei is called yaoi and Kriselle is called yuri.
>>738022423femkris became popular mostly to spite suselle troons and because most faggots can ignore kris blatantly being depicted a female so long as you remember they magic they/them incantation unlike with MaleKris. As for here it’s mainly popular because of a handful of coomers who keep these threads from flatlining and one very autistic theorist
>>738019165Ralsei probably doesn't even really understand what the prophecy means, at various times he gets caught by shit not going exactly to plan
>>738022487I wouldn't really change anything, the people who believe the others are "nonbinary" wouldn't stop and the people who don't wouldn't begin.Ultimately, times just changed from when undertale was released and everyone was just fine with calling frisk or chara male or female. Now they need to virtue signal about how morally superior they are by calling a character nonbinary.
>>738022926there are a couple femkris coomers but i genuinely think that the majority of them believe in the second hero kris theory
>>738022926>femkris became popular mostly to spite suselle troons delusionalfemkris became popular because kriselle and krusie exploded after chapter 3 and 4 and they just had to find a way to make it gay. it's a yurifag theory.
>>738022959Ralsei was born with knowledge from the prophecy but he himself states he doesn't really know why or understands it, he just knows.
Post ralsei's fat ass
>>738014009> suselleNever been a thing, never will. It's just a phase anyway, like all lesbos.
>>738023118This.
>>7380221953 or 4 months. Keep WAITing.
>>738017498So...where does Susie even live? Who are her parents?
>>738023084You know shit's bad when characters in the know have to theoryfag as well.
>>738022239They don't actually interpret them as genderless, they interpret Mettaton as female and Mad Mew Mew as male. They just say they do because they use they/them pronouns as ghosts.
We should waterboard Ralsei until he tells us what he knows.Then shower him with love afterwards.
>>738023274>So...where does Susie even liveAt the apartment east of town>Who are her parents?Dunno, mby she's in Alphys care rn
>>738023118Like this?
>>738023463Yes! moar
>>738023274in ch4 she makes a comment about wanting to go back to kris' place at one of the apartments, iirc the far one, same as snowwy's she doesn't say this when you check the other ones so there's a decent chance she actually lives in that building
>>738023315the whole of chapter 4's beggining was susie acting like a deltarune fanlooking at asriel's computer and thinking of it as a darkner, guessing jackenstein is the pumpkin, and theory fagging about the shelter code with kris
>>738023039I’ve only seen one guy unironically shill the theory here and that’s the person who made it. most of the people who post FemKris here openly don’t care about the theory but still respect the guy
I hope the Weird Route final fight is against Kris and not Susie.
>>738023587the weird route will have no final boss as a fuck you to people who didn't pay attention to what geno meant because of sans hype
>>738023538the bong? he just made the video, back when it was first posted some other believers brought up that he left some stuff out like the princess ribboni don't think any one anon can claim to be the sole origin point for the theory, it felt pretty like a number of us were compiling info for it last year
>>738023118I'd prefer his fat unpeeled virgin monstercock
>>738020000no one wants to use /utg/ mate
Thrash Machine sequence was foreshadowing. The vessel is the machine (you) created to thrash your own ass. That's why the parts you select in the gonermaker get stored in the save file.
>>738023463More ralsei art like this would be great. I just wish more artists didn't draw him with disgusting muzzle Western furry faces
>>738023698You sure you can handle it?
>>738023660he's already rewarded people with pacifist sans fight, so i don't expect that
>>738023720the thrash machine isn't even subtle you choose from a selection for greyscale parts to make something with themit later shows itself to have a personality and in ch3/4 there's the 'copies are monochrome' and 'you coloured us in with care' maybe people just forgot because it's been so long since the vessel maker sequence
>>738016879he actually has a cute 1 inch micropenis and the most loveable butthole imaginable.
>>738023669It might have started with multiple anons but a this point with how barren this threads are it probably is just the one guy posting his own video as proof and being up his own ass all the way. seriously though you can not convince me that one recent “fem kris” thread wasn’t just two guys yelling at eachother for most of it.
>>738023879Yeah. You get it.
>>738023972will he lick my cock clean after I pound his buns?
>>738024006i'm not the bong and i support femkrisi think a lot of them (if they're still around) took heed of a warning that was going about last year about not spamming it to the point of it being annoying
>>738023879people memory hole the previous chapters as soon as a new one dropsseam is suspicious as hell by now yet no one cares
>>738024196we got very little of him in 3/4, to be fair i know he was a focal point in the ch1 and ch2 days
>>738023818I mean, it'd doubtlessly be a two-hander, but yes. jesus just imagine being able to give this cute shut-in dork his first orgasm, it'd break his brain
>>738013797Ralsei wants to get fucked by Kris HUMAN cock
>>738024340Calm down with the fantasies Susie
>>738024196I think people don't talk about Seam as much because most people are in agreement that he's going to be involved with the pure crystal (probably true, to be fair) and then they stop thinking about him. But yeah I think there's still more to him than that. How does he even know about this shit when none of the other dark worlds had been created yet? Very suspicious guy.
>>738024531Based Seam believer, I think He's gonna be Chapter 5's secret boss
>>738024006most theorist tend to be up their own asses. its just that girlkris happened to be extra contrarian so that fueled the pretensions feel. really i think how much the guy spammed his take and acted like an ass anyone who disagreed and ESPECIALLY to malekrisfags really soured a lot of people's view on it. also i find it funny how femkris got subsumed by the idea of kris being "THE GIRL" despite one of them being far less of a reach than the other.
>>738024612can we please just have another new funny guy one last time?or even better... new funny girl
>>738024531>>738024612Do we think Seam is based on Balthazar?
>>738024531Based Seam is ERAM truther.
what's not to get?>Already knows how the games end (neutral route)>is terrified of what's to come on the weird route>hoping for a miracle on the pacifist route
So what are you going to make Noelle do once you have full control of her? Gloat over Kris that he failed to save her? Threaten Ralsei to get information out of him? Tell Susie EVERYTHING? Finish killing Birdly? The game's not out yet, so the options are limtless.
>>738025007she'll finish the job on her own(you)'re making her strongerstrong enough to do things on her own, without (you)
>>738025007Force her to start a family and have lots of kids.
>>738025007I'll make her wear the snowflake panties out and a short skirt.
>>738025007get my vessel back and murder all those retarded teenagers including herself
>>738022423Is that actually happening? It's rare to see people interpreting Kris as a girl. Usually they hate coomer FemKris art and Kris is only a girl in order for their ships to be gay.>>738022481I remember that scene in Undertale for Frisk and Chara. Bravo, Toby!>>738022487Worse because they will say the they/them are actually non-binary because there's characters that aren't. >>738023538I don't believe it but I like them because they're earnest humanbros. Simple as.
>>738025007Use her up so she can open the evil ass door.
>>738022926That's not true. FemKris is popular outside of here to make Krusie and Kriselle gay, not for hot Kris, and here it's a mixture of coomers and schizo theorists.
>>738025427I'd be significantly more inclined towards FemKris if there were any eligible bachelors I could see her getting with. What are our options though? Her imaginary friend Ralsei? NTR shopkeeper Sans? Fucking Birdly? Kris can only find true love in hometown if he's a boy.
>>738025743Agreed, unlike in Undertale where Frisk and Chara (female) have better ships, FemKris basically only has yuriships.
>>738024531Seam being Eram makes no sense for his character.
>>738023068that what i'm referring to. people got sick of suselletards shitting on krusie and especially suselle for being straight washing(despite kris supposedly being non-binary lmao) so they just slapped the "yuri" on it to avoid getting called chuds
>>738024531>>738024196I'm not certain on Seam being ERAM but they're definitely going to use the ShadowCrystals/PureCrystal for their own gain. The whole "I suppose I owe you an explanation" makes no real sense unless they're taking the crystal at the end of the quest for their own gain.
>>738025743FemKris is the yuritards take. Noelle and Susie are dykes, Kris is a masculine girl who's probably a dyke by default, and Ralsei is so femmine that he might aswell be a lesbo. the only thing it provides in its totality is dykeslop so self insert filament of getting into a gangbang with a bunch of presumed lesbians
>>738025986I'm not really sure he is either, but there's definitely something off about him and that image was convenient for illustrating that point.
>>738025743The Vessel can be a boy.
>>738023315Deltarune is the theoryfag game, and even the author of the story (Gaster) wants his game released already.
>>738023274In the apartments. We see her room in Chapter 3.
>>738026871>Having our vessel lock FemKris in his own basement, and raping her every day until she's ready to be our stepfordHot.
>>738026871Self insertion is le cringe
>>738026302… fair most of the femkris posts her are either post along side female Chara and Frisk with the implication that said anon wants to fuck all of them or that one theorist arguing that Noelle being a “dyke” is PROOF that kris is a woman
>>738026871>>738027000This. Humans are for (you). That's who they're best shipped with.
>>738027214Noelle isn't actually a dyke, she's Krissexual, and her attraction to Susie is entirely based on how much Susie reminds her of Kris.
>>738027214There's also Berdly being straight and liking Kris.
>>738024114it's only polite.
>>738025743there’s a higher likelihood that Noelle is a coping straightoid than that a female kris would be anything but the biggest dyke imaginable. that fucker you being the most stereotypical tumblr lesbian possible right down to dressing like a boy, being surrounded friends with exclusively other presumed lesbians, and even the “non-binary” shit
>>738027086The Vessels have their own mind though.
>>738027824I hope we get to put the Thorn Ring on Kris.
>>738027503>implying Toby won’t make a joke of Berdly wanting to add a “honorary woman” like Ralsei to his “harem” in a later chapterthere is no way toby’s going to let a fully straight character slide
>>738027503>berdly straightlol, femKris evidence is weak as fuck
>Femkrisfags self insert themselves as the vessel fucking kris>Malekrisfag self insert as kris fucking everyone elsedoes anyone here actually like kris for non smut reasons
>>738028023I like Kris because I love how she acts during the Weird Route.
>>738028023That's a paradox. If you like a character, you will like them for smut reasons.
>>738027731god don’t remind me of the Veth shit…
>>738028023Not really
Reminder
>>738028023Kris is a rat bastard little shit and if he won’t fuck his classmates for me I’ll just fuck her myself
Anons...?
>>738028424
Krusie works better as platonic
>>738028520
>>738025007as our fellow angel and new partner it's only fair we help her achieve what she wants. aside from that I hope we'll get to tell Kris to piss off and then tell Susie everything. everything else seems unnecessarily evil.
>>738028520Yeah. Platonicly sniffing your bro's hair.Susie is the type to "platonically" date someone for 2 years before realizing.
so what youre all saying is EVERYONE SHOULD FUCK EVERYONE!!! SEEEEEXXX.....
>>738028117The idea that the vessel has a mind of it's own comes from the game itself, secondary.
>>738028774Throuple are not allowed.
>>738028520See, this is why you guys gotta read Homestuck. They're textbook moirails. Quadrants would hit these threads like crack.
>>738028908What about starwalker and the weather duo?
>>738028829nta anon but if (you) share your name with the vessel narrator-san says you're one in the same. back to your post all I got to say is it can have its own mind (probably for cutscene stuff) but it better so what I tell it to do. no point otherwise
>>738024862Ok, let’s say Eram WAS Seam, how the hell did he even get to Kris’s house? The only darkener Kris carries is Lancer
>>738013797My theory is that he's trying to convince kris to not fuck everything up and kill anyone but he doesn't want anyone else to know that.
>>738029943We literally see a pixel Seam in Asriel’s computer, where Mantle takes place.
>>738030387I must’ve have missed that text, pic?
>>738028520got a suppository for the Suselle redflags like all the lying and shit?
>>738021878>ghosts have no gender and go by they/them all the time>they get a gender and use new pronouns when they get a bodyBro they literally in every sense of the word transition their genders
>>738023068It was specifically to spite Susellefags who claimed those ships were straightwashing, and here it was to be smart about trying to predict a twist involving the prophecy girl.
>>738030578It also works thematically well with MANCOUNTRY
>>738030481
>>738030578it was a collaborative effort a lot of weird things about kris suddenly make sense when you look at it from the femkris angle
>>738030707Non-men are allowed, too.
>>738028520>listen chud, when kris said that susie's smile lit up everything that was platonic>but kris yelling out in despair about you choosing to say you'd take berdly to the festival means they're totally in hecking love :3
>>738030826>this image againnigga shut the fuck up, ralsei can wear it too while susie can't. you are a dmb fucking retard. stop fucking posting this shit in every thread no matter how many times people point out you're a dumb retarded brainless nigger.
>>738030931please pay attention to what noelle says kris is the only one who can wear it properly
>>738030826This is an OJ Simpson reference.
>>738030179I think he's trying to keep YOU in check more than anything. Kris has already decided to sell out his friends for a crumb of Dussy. It's why Gaster wanted to replace Kris with the vessel. He saw our potential in UT, the good and the bad, so that info was forwarded to Ralsei. It's why he pushes so hard for pacifism.Kris fucked up in past attempts (we overwrite his save file on a fresh install) so Gaster was forced to plan b which is the vessel but that also failed so now everyone's playing catch up.
>>738030975>noelle said kris could wear gloves>that means he's actually secretly the girl!!!!!!!!You are a schizophrenic retard who has been repeating this shit ever since the chapter startedYour stupid fucking fetish will never be real, you stupid fucking retard
>>738023660that would be so gaythe final boss of the normal route is guaranteed to be toothless so fandomsloppers can beat it. at least let the hidden route have a decent final challenge
>femkrisfags make fun of malekrisfags as just using kris as a self insert to fuck who every they like while pretending to care about the character>proceed to use the vessel as a self insert to fuck kris pretending to care about the character....
>>738030826nigger its a game staring a tomboy and femboy clothing doesn't mean shit. even then malekris believers could simply argue that kris is a manlet so of course he could wear tiny gloves meanwhile non-binarytard could simply argue that since kris isn't male or female it'd make sense they'd have some femmine traits to go with their masculine ones
>>738027285If Kris is a girl she would be a dyke, also the hot female santas ad.
>>738030879Kris will rape Berdly to feel powerful for once after getting cucked by Suselle
>>738023720>>738023879This means someone will take over the Vessel and use it against us like Roulxs used the Thrash Machine against us.
>listen chud, when kris said that susie's smile lit up everything that was platonicIt literally was though
>thinking there’s going to be a canon gender for a human character>ever
>>738020000checked, and its mostly due to the nolife avatarfags
>>738031532IS THAT A BERDSERK REFERENCE...
>>738031727this wasn't though
>there are gotefags nowam I allowed to call these threads /utg/ lite yet?
>>738031729Yeah, female humans only exist in imagination land and we must cope with it.
>>738031183vesselfags wanting to fuck kris is a relatively new development it wasn't like this a few months ago
>>738031961You're allowed to make your thousandth post about your boogeyman of the day, you will never be a janny and delete these threads
>>738031009>>738031304even a manlet would have man hands too big to wear the gloves
>>738031961You're free to leave any time you know.
>>738031183>>738031995Isn't the Vessel supposed to be our canon self-insert OC? If not, I can fuck femVessels as well. Nothing wrong with it.
>>738030879people don't ship kerdly because they think kris likes berdly they do it for the love of the game and to spite a fictional manlet
>>738027824>>738027886I would say this but Frisk and Chara but they were already loyal enough, I don't need to give them a torture device.>>738028023You can like humans both for sex and as characters. >>738028774This but unironically.
>>738032854And because they want kris to be out of the way for suselle, of course.
>>738013797Ralsei's purpose is to guide the prophecy to completion every time. He represents the original hero of the Light World Prophecy, the one Catty mentions in the sermon to be a male with horns, and she comments she thinks he'd look cute.>Dark Hero - Records and faces the fate.>"Pray we not forget, the tale of DELTA RUNE">"Don't Forget" is the motto of the gameThe prophecy is cyclical, it must happen over and over again. The final prophecy is about the heroes losing the memories of their adventure. Because Ralsei only exists in those adventures, he forgets them, and will forget Susie and Kris too. Ralsei must always remain because he's the only one who keeps the Thread of Prophecy going on forever. He's immortal in that sense and he goes on forever in different incarnations while his friends grow and move on with their lives
>>738028117I like Veth. She's cute.
>>738031961>nowmotherfucker one of the three humanfags here has openly admitted to being a gotefag for months. how have you only just discovered this?
>>738030501i also think suselle works better platonically thoughsusie just doesn't strike me as wanting to be in a romantic relationship
>>738031183>>738031995look man if it works for doefags it can work for kristards
>>738033085Why do tumblr artists insist on giving everyone hobo gloves and black nails?
>>738019098It's a small team, so leaking the game will generally just be a bad idea because it's that much easier to get caught
>>738033349She did say she wanted to get better at flirting, so she must be gunning for someone.
>>738020236This is for the better, his next game will only have heteros and cisgendered characters if twitter gets on his bad side enough
>>738032536kinda sorta gaster seems to give a snarky remark if you name the vessel after (you)rself when creating it, implying that it isn't a straight 1:1 insertion
>>738029484Gaster asks you to shape the vessel's mind as your own, meaning the intention is that the vessel should parallel you, but it also gives you the option of naming your creation something different from your own name, implying a degree of separation.
>>738033398This is a 4chan artist though.
>>738033483well i don't think she's asexual or whatever, just not ready for a romantic relationship yet.she only made real friends like 3 days ago
>>738033952yeah that's something a lot of people forget due to the absurd wait, even toby on occasion
>>738029013homestuck my asswe're Earthbound CHUDS herenow go eat shit, faggot
>>738033561You say that when the Latam side is the one that's the boldest about just usin "Him" for Kris
>>738034172i thought we already deduced that the majority of selfinserters were latinx
>>738031961>gotefagsralsei is an honorary female here
>>738027886And then we're going to have a 1 on 1 fight in a harder version to something we already have seen?There are many more ways to break kris if you think about it a little
>>738034172bitch why you lying?If you took spanish as a kid you should be able to read this
>>738013797hi /v/ i love gay furry porn
>>738034172LATam fans are also the biggest coomers around, too.
>>738034287the latinx are coomers in general>join latam tf2 server>fat teto and miku sprays everywhere
>>738034262I just love the Thorn Ring.
>>738024150I thought that was just because of the schizo posting porn and shitting the thread in general, which didn't work so much because he's still around anyways
>>738034269You just don't interact with the fanbase, You'll be lynched if you actually try to use genderneutral pronouns on Kris because, and let's be honest, both homophobia and misoginy are still quite big heere in the big 26sThat and the basic ass "Mexicans are raised in a culture of corruption so they lack filters for their own satire"
>>738034457why is he green
>>738033398>tumblr
>>738033309I only said humanbros and gotebros are allies, I'm still a humanbro. You're really bad at this, you should post humans with us instead of being so tsundere everytime.
>>738034493For an amazing reason
>>738034509>he knows
>>738033952Still an odd thing to say, no? Why would she say that if she's perfectly happy making friends and not going beyond that rn. Someone must have caught her eye for her to express interest on improving her flirting
>>738034172I don't particularly care about the topic of Kris's gender identity but a lot of spanish speaking folks use he/him pronouns because spanish itself doesn't have neutral pronouns in the normal sense. The default is to imply maleness when the gender is unknown.Though, some people have been trying to enforce "le/elle" to refer to Kris, which only really works for non-binary people, which Kris has never been explicitly said to be one.
>>738034493battat is at it again
>>738034427Is a good item for a dark wedding ring and something made to work perfectly with noelle's backgroundFor kris it could work if we actually finish the ceremony in a way, tobby wants to "use up" everyone, so i would recommend not clinging to the idea too much
>>738034509>>738033924I actually don't know. I saw the art tumblr first so I just assumed.Anyway, still gives off that vibe
>>738033349>susie just doesn't strike me as wanting to be in a romantic relationshipcareful you'll piss off the entirety of deltarune's shipping community
>>738034269>Sans is onions
>>738020236>Latinx>another dipshit who doesn't know what the word entitlement means
>>738034262I mean, the twisted sword is made from the thorn ring, so we are going to put it in Kris technically.
>>738028520Unironically true. I don't want anyone to fuck
>>738029013The day that /v/ learns about vacillation is the day this board burns
If Chapter 5 wasn't coming out this year to bring in fresh inspiration I'd say this is the best Deltarune fantrack of the yearhttps://youtu.be/ChyKnVw5klA?si=34ILT-NbzcDU5h0H
>>738035676that's wrong. the correct way to organize the cast for shipping is by having them all give a very long chained rimjob in the following positions: https://files.catbox.moe/xadlvh.png
>>738035676for the love of god, stop trying to make homestuck a thing here
>>738035545what i wonder is if we'll even need the shadow crystals or are we simply going to use the glow shard instead the crystals being required to fight seam
>>738035920fortunately HS is way to infamous and long for most people to even consider in dealing with that nonsense
>>738036230I think it's very, very likely that the pure crystal is our reward for getting all crystals based on its description (shadow purified by the cat) so it's probably required to get all crystals for the sword. The glowshard is probably irrelevant.
>>738025007I'll make her finally READ THOSE FUCKING BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY, STOP GATEKEEPING THE LORE YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT BIRD
>>738035453why the latinx mad lol
>>738035676I love this image
>>738036293every time I get curious and try to understand it I get a strokelike, the wiki page on quadrants reads like a made up language at some points
>>738035920homestuck is already a thing here
>>738028023I like Kris as a torture magnet and a scapegoat. Weird Route's too fun.
>>738035676Secret Kris x Ralsei Kismesitude when?
>>738031961>gotefagsdare I ask?
>>738036428Tricky tonny is tricky and he gave himself A LOT of years to think for obscure things to do, so i'll keep an open mind on weird stuff
>>738036652faggots who want to fuck asriel and asriel-likes>>738036635die
>>738036780I see. Not as terrible as I thought but still painfully obnoxious if the intentional misspelling means anything
>>738036550the largest "franchises" if HW can be called that, have their own made up words, so yeah, literally it is, worsened by the meta narrative one is supposed to know that should be buried under comment sections that i don't know if they even exists at this point.
can that one noelle drawfren draw some doe real quick
>>738036659I think it's more likely the dog dollar does anything than the glowshard desu. Since it's related to the annoying dog. Outside of that we still don't know what the twisted sword does so there's plenty of room for epic subversions.
>>738036885Dude, I'm pretty sure if I got to, let's say, the harry potter wiki or the elder scrolls wiki I'll be able to follow the text more or less even if I have never interacted with those before.But Homestuck looks like pure babble to me.
>>738029484This is a Toby Fox game, always be prepared for a subversion.>>738033601Yeah, I expect the Vessel won't be the perfect self-insert people want. That and its going to be controlled by someone else before we get to it.
This is what true happiness looks like btw
>>738030826I don't believe in FemKris but this always mindbreaks people.
>>738037396what about the fleas
>>738035920It's already here.
>>738037396Right up until Kris' treachery gets revealed.Imagine trusting a friend with your own life, just for them to turn around and betray you over some dead whore.
>>738030826I really think this whole FemKris MaleKris thing are people reading too much into something that the story isn't setting up at all. If anything, the they/them pronouns might end up corroborated if it turns out Kris is a vessel that was colored in with Hometowns care.
>>738032941Nowadays people make Kris a girl to push Krusielle lesbian poly.
>>738035783This is pretty good, thanks for sharing
>>738034493He's green and in-between.
>>738035920To deny Homestuck's influence and relevance to Deltarune is like trying to separate hydrogen from water.
>>738037715the big point that it's more than just random coincidences is how kris fits into the whole second hero thingkris fits into the role better than arguably susie, and possibly noellethe only tangible point against it is that nobody knows if kris is actually female or notit's questionable writing on toby's end, adding a third candidate to what seems to be a two person mystery
>>738036635Honestly I'd believe in an unrequited pitch/pale pairing between the two
>>738037827Deltarune is going to have the most disappointing ending in video game history.
Ralsei wins the Susiebowl by doing absolutely nothing
>>738037106You have to understand that Hussie makes a lot of things needlessly complex (partially) as a joke, so when you just read a wiki page you lose that element of humor. You also see multiple examples of each quadrant play out throughout the comic, with both functional and dysfunctional examples, which makes them a lot easier to understand.
>>738029013I want to be Noelle's kismesis.
>>738037929Here's Why That's a Good Thing
>>738035816I prefer a boob line.
>>738037929>>738038054I think Susie should get the harem ending.
>>738036635I see the vision.
>>738037904Not because it's bad but because it can't live to 11 years of hype.
>>738037838who else would be the cage? you can't double dip on heroes either, the prophecy specifically asks for 3 individuals to save the world. and you're telling me that the entire theory hinges on nobody, not even Kris's mother who's raised them since early childhood, knowing if Kris is a girl? when there's two confirmed girls who have already joined the party? when at most the prophecy implies at there being two different girls? and in making Femkris a thing, shoving either Susie or Noelle out of the narrative? it just seems like insane hackery to me.
>>738037997It was a good joke. Never actually explaining what a bone bulge is was Hussie's best move.
>>738038321The Vessel was originally supposed to be the cage.
>>738038321Vessel is obviously the cage even ignoring the FemKris theory.
>>738038321the vessel fits the cage description far better than kris does
>>738038227it will be bad
>>738013797black or white or something else
>>738038524Not really. If the vessel is aligned with your will then it's not much of a cage.
KRIS I LOVE ISRAEL
>>738038746the nip translation is closer to basket afaikblame toby for making things more clear for them that for non nips
I'm like the first guy to suggest it and even I hate the femkris theory now that just takes over every single thread and turns them all into brutal 500 post fist fights. The only redeeming quality it has is that it would piss off about four tumblr users i have a posting grudge against if it happened.
>>738038409>>738038502>>738038524The cage is the human soul and parts. We're already caged in the human soul so the parts can be any human that's missing a soul.
So, Giga Chad Kris or Ultra Stacy Kris?
Have you hugged Ralsei today, anons?
>>738039153giga chad kris wearing dresses and looking better in them than the girls in his class do
genuinely how will Asgore recover from this
>>738037929He's actually the only one that makes a solid attempt at winning her over.
>>738039180No, I'm tired of pretending not to notice something poking me in the leg whenever I hug him.
>>738039182Chapter 5 trust. He's gonna win Toriel back and the respect of the entire town and Sans will be so owned he gas to escape to undertale
>>738039242Then suck him off, retard.
It pisses me off that Toby has been building up some sort of insane backstory between Kris and Catti and he still hasn't developed it past vague text
>>738039153>sub 5 foot 5>Itty bitty dainty handsI don't think he can qualify as a chad
>>738039182by humiliating himself harder for 3 hours straight
There's a theory guy who convinced himself that Gaster is actually a young guy like Asriel and Dess age and ships Gaster/Drss how do you guys feel about this information..
>>738039153boyish Kris
>>738039682i like the theory that gaster was the town psychologist/ therapist better, and that kris and noelle were some of his patients and that he's also the man in hometown keeping an eye on kris if you collect the eggs
>>738039682I feel its a chicken and the egg scenario
>>738013797>mfw the folder i've been keeping all my deltarune memes in has been named "delatrune" this entire time
>>738039682Does he know Gaster was the Royal Scientist before the 20-something Alphys? Like does he think Gaster became the Royal Scientist at like 12 years old?Does he even know about Undertale at all?I feel like you can only come to this conclusion if you've looked at some very liberty taking Gaster fanart.
hi deltarune thread i might be retarded. made a separate thread for something i wanted to ask channer rune fans not realizing this thread existed:hey /v/, im writing a Deltarune webcomic with my roommate based on MSPA, Homestuck, and some of the early Deltarune concepts, with several characters like spamton and the knight having design changes. the comics essentially like "what if andrew hussie made Deltarune in 2009 instead of making Homestuck" so its written like earlier internet shitwe want to make queen more like her beta design, kind of evil, but one thing i thought would be cool to make her a channer with her main text quirk aside from the First Capital Letter thing being every line starts with > and she sometimes does greentextgetting to the point. im no expert on 4chan, just lurk occasionally. what are some thing channer Queen should say thatd be in line with the concept? one of her lines about berdly is already being changed from "Okay There's Nothing Wrong With Him He's Just Kind Of Annoying" to "> Okay There's Nothing Wrong With Him He's Just Kind Of Retarded" but id love to know what else we could dotldr just write some stupid or funny shit queen would/should say
Okay, but what do we really think about the weird Kris X Vessel ship hints?
>>738040115>He's just kind of a niggerfaggot from the depths of niggerhellthere you gobe bold bwai
>>738040169
>>738017145The only reason I haven't gooned myself to death thinking of him, and also that Noelle is cute.>>738017498The idea that this kid spent her childhood without any real friends tears me apart, like a lion killing the cubs from a rival.
trvth nvkes that deltaheads don't want to hear:Airwaves proves that the 'freedom' motif is fanon bullshit. It's just another chapter 1 & 2 'pattern' that Deltarune fans are weirdly reluctant to let go of. Freedom is vague enough that you could relate it to the Mikes somehow I'm sure, but it would just be confirmation bias. It clearly isn't an important aspect of their characters. You could say it's because Friend appears, but we don't have any reason to associate him with freedom either. At least not yet. The freedom motif is really more of a secret boss motif than anything else.mus_smile being used in the Holiday's basement makes it more likely to be a dark world related noise than a Gaster specific noise since there's nothing relating to Gaster in the basement at all. This removes Gaster's one and only solid connection to the bunker.
>>738017145Careful, there's already a whole section of the fandom that are hardcore transgirl Ralsei truthers who refer to him exclusively with she/her.
>>738040115Everything she says needs to be about how someone is jewish, gay, black, trans, or a furry, being as harsh as possible, while not actually meaning anything by it.
>>738040169It's Charisk 2.0 Yaoi edition (or self-insert edition) so it's not super weird Toby is shilling for it.
>>738040368>guys this thing that Toby has been using as a leitmotif since Chapter 1 is actually le red herringshut up
>>738040401>truthersMore like trooners.
>>738040442You have the reading comprehension I'd expect from someone unwilling to let go of chapter 1+2 fanon.
>>738040507>you're le attached to le fanon
>>738040368I never liked the idea of that leitmotif being anything other than Jevil's theme, but I guess Gerson messes this up.Noelle's basement is the deepest part of hometown we've been able to explore so far, so take this into the theory shit for roots/the depths/whatever else
>>738040169I'm up for it as long as it makes Kris miserable
>>738040368freedom motif is in airwaves because theyre stuck in the game theory writers basement gooning to shota ralsei
>>738040602shota ralsei is redundant
>>738037838>it's questionable writing on toby's end, adding a third candidate to what seems to be a two person mysteryanon thats just you working backwards and reaching for evidence to justify your crackpot theory. the main video that helped start this mess argued for it because "kris sorta looks like the girl's mural, and also it'd be le subversive". if by your own logic its a stupid theory that would be dogshit as an actual big reveal why the hell do you keep pushing it?
>>7380401154chan as a sterotype is a bit more inflammatory, and if you especially want to lean into her being the shitposting type, she'd be more like>Its Not His Fault He's A Fucking Retard/Faggot
i have femkris fatigue
if you think the same guy that removed the rose scene would reveal that the character that's widely considered to be nonbinary is actually just a girl you are drooling from the mouth retarded
>>738040791it's like 2 dudes who spam it
>>738040779the comics meant to be in-universe written by hussie so it being a little inflammatory should be a given, but noted
Susie is cute...!
>>738040791Epstein site chuddy
>>738040856He or she would still be nonbinary though, it's just confirming which biologically gender they are trying to escape from.
>>738040791What are you? Gay?
kris isn't a girl because jaru is a femkrisfag. sorry everyone
Kris is a MAN and he wants to make out with Susie
>>738041035Fuck I didn't know that. Selling every femkris stock I have now.
>>738041013which would also be a very controversial decision which toby has shown multiple times that he does not want deltarune to be a controversial piece of art. It's retarded to think otherwise
>>738041013>wanting deltarune to be a fucking troon allegoryanon i swear to god.
>>738040856I don't know how to place Toby on the Coward-Bold scale. Like, there's stuff like the rose that's clear coward behavior, but he also does bold stuff like refusing to classify Ralsei as a tranny.
>>738040742>the main video that started this messwas created months after all the evidence had been compiled hereand the reveal would be more focused on 'susie wasn't picked for something yet again' to go along with kris not telling her the whole deal instead of 'zomg kris is le girl and we'll suddenly treat kris completely differently despite it changing effectively nothing for all the other characters in game who probably already knew this'
Trump should pass a law banning they/thems in media so Toby has to pick one so we can stop arguing.
>>738041035look on the "bright" side he's also a trans noelle truther. so if femkris goes down that dumpster fire goes with it
>>738041035femkrisbros...it's over...
>>738039153Personally i would keep him as female failure to keep having fun with the all utdr humans are female Shota is a good second optionThe third his semi canon failure twink self works as intended
>>738041015Kris WISHES he was that fucking thicc>>738041035who tf is jaru?
>>738041120It's not what I want. I just have a compulsion to clarify and correct things when I scroll past discussions.
>>738016762What’s the name of that piece of clothing covering part of her fingers?
>>738041271>who tf is jaruisraels favorite deltarune theorist
>>738035619Gayest post in this thread
>>738041142the whole "susie wasn't picked for something yet again' already works with noelle considering she has ACTUAL evidence for being the girl. the fucks even the point of the WR then, what is kris(the girl) forcing Noelle to be the new girl despite already manipulating things to be la chick? wouldn't it make more sense for the weird route to be about forcing kris go back to being the girl instead? literally the holy thing you're theory has is aura and ragebait
>>738041035But wasn't Jaru the only person who got Alvin and Gerson right? The only thing he messed up was Gerson's name.
>>738041446why are you making assumptions about the weird route's conclusion when we actively know fuck all about what it's actually about as is
>>738041463he got gerson right by technicality because he was vomiting so much shit he was bound to get something right accidentally, but iirc the only thing about his theory that was correct was gerson appearing, nothing else about it happened
>>738041271>who tf is jaru?gasters strongest crackhead. unironically believes that ralsei is a darkner based off asriel's dust, that kris is femcel who wants asriel to herself, that kris KILLED both dess and asriel, that asriel is ALSO the knight and lost in the code because fuck you, that the SOUL is actually dess, and that noelle is trans because fuck you.
>>738041463No, lots of people guessed Gerson Dustner and Alvin digging him up. He just thought he would be the knight and named Oberon Smaug.
>>738041463While I am not denying that he got that correct, it also was heavily foreshadowed by Alvin. Its barely a theory
>>738041561that last ones especially funny cause from what ive seen not even troons like jaru
>>738041561something to note about jaru and femkris is that for him it's entirely based on vibes and has admitted he doesn't have a theory or reason beyond that
>>738041446Noelle is already and entirely different prophecy person. The girl who snows.
>>738039682I think that people should stop making dumb excuses for themselves and just ship whatever insane shit they want to.
>>738041708I ship Clover with Dess because they're the same person.
>>738041665that this point jaru not having a theory for it is probably for the best. not like the theory pushed here is much better than pure vibes posting
>>738040957she keeps looking at the camera
If the chapters arnt good I just hope they piss off the fans I don't like more than they piss me off.
>>738041748>selfcestGodspeed and have fun, anon.
God please just release the new chapters I don't know how many more threads I can take.
>>738041561>ralsei is a darkner based off asriel's dustmeh. probably my least favorite theory but it could be worse.>that kris is femcel who wants asriel to herselfunironically based.>that kris KILLED both dess and asrielstill based.>that asriel is ALSO the knight and lost in the code because fuck youpretty neat actually.>that the SOUL is actually dessif that takes into consideration the romance connotations of the Weird Route, 10/10>and that noelle is trans because fuck youabsolutely disgusting.png
The game would be so much better if you cut out Susie entirely as a character.
I've always thought a fun way for a Gaster encounter to be handled would be if it were entirely missable, but finding it somehow requires you to have knowledge of him and the secret content around him. I don't really know how you'd do that specifically, but it it would feel like finally putting the pieces together for a decade long mystery and be really cool I think
>>738042120>DONT WORRY LITTLE DELTACHAD>WE HAVE ENOUGH SHIPSLOP TO LAST YOU A LIFETIME>/v/ BRING OVER THE DESS FANART ASAP BABY'S HUNGRY!
>>738042237>t. catti
>>738041446Noelle IS the angel, Susie IS the dragon, did we play the same game?
>>738042264We're expecting too much for a game that will be rushed despite being delayed
We may all hate each other and disagree on almost every aspect of Deltarune, but we are at least completely in agreement that we hate Suselle, right?
>>738042237that's pretty rude of you to say, buster!
>>738042517naturally
>>738040169if this turns out to be true it means even in the weird route we can make Kris not hate us for absconding and proceeding with Noelle all over hometown and using their body to do it the first few times. maybe Kris isn't a total loser after all
>>738042517suselle sucks because at this current moment in time it reduces two good characters into dolls just kissing each other. susie seems like she just wants to be friends and is actively angry with Noelle dissing Kris while Noelle is well Noelle and gushing in her Christmas themed panties. again which is said because separately they're great characters I'm hoping toby is gonna do something interesting and not make them muh boring lesbians
>>738042619Actually, if you are on the weird route or even have just fought enough dudes you get the hate wins option automatically where gold knocks silver out. With the message "you made your choice a long a long time ago."The implication being that on the normal route you get to choose between love and hate, but violence always ends in hate, and also, Kris beats the Vessel in every hate timeline.
Castle Town itself in ch1 looks like a Titan
>>738017448>Deltarune cutscenes with Ralph Bakshi styleYou son of a bitch, i'm in
>>738042237UT is the world without Susie.
>>738042772anon I played chapter 3 with weird route and you can still have love win. and no way Kris wins if we have control of the vessel. they're trash without (you)
>>738034269Tomboy with extra steps, still gonna pound into until >he turns back cis.
>>738042305
>>738042772weird route this doesnt apply, its just violence. which the weird route doesnt require outside of the chapter 2 noelle segment
>>738035453latinx is damn near the spic equivalent of nigger, way more impactful than actually saying spic or beaner or wetback or any other accepted slur
>>738017371Asriel? Why, he’s literally me of course!
Why couldn't the lantinx community do something useful instead? Like bully Toby until he adds fully animated Kris and Susie sex scenes to chapter 5? Instead of making the world better they choose to make it worse.
>>738043078How many krisellefags are Latinos like me?I would guess we also got our fair share of himedanshi and shill Susie going for Noelle.
>>738019893Dess x Asriels gay. Dess x Kris is based /ss/ like Naota x Haruko.
Why does the deltarune community have so many goddamn posers? Is it because I've gotten better at noticing secondaries or is Deltarune just a turd magnet?
>>738043195Because it's trendy on Twitter and Tumblr.
>>738043195It's always be filled with posers. Every single fan. Hell even the NPCs are just shallow posers of their Undertale counterparts. There's only one genuine person in this whole fandom, the original.
>>738043195Its because of the stupid meta bullshit in the game which means youtube is flooded with theory crafting youtubers talking about creepy pasta shit like gaster. These videos attract secondaries who just consume these kinds of videos.
>>738013797EVERYTHING. Ralsei knows everything of importance, except what the player is going to do, because he is Kris's anthropomorphisation of Asriel's diary.
>>738043195"Fandom" centric things attract that, artists that want their stuff to get more popular, influencers that want to ride the coattails of something in hopes of growing, preteens that watched a playthrough that want to participate etc
There is genuinely nothing wrong with Suselle except that it doesn't have enough screentimeSusie is in-character when it happensNoelle is in-character when it happensYou all dislike it and cope your way around it because it's a lesbian ship and not the loli anime girl kind so it appeals to 0,0001% of people in 4chan
>>738043509Bait
>>738043509Nah. Even as a yurifag, suselle just feels... empty. Tasteless, for a lack of a better word. Even alphyne has a stronger foundation.
>>738043509Noelle is in character when she tries to make it happen.Susie is in character when she doesn't realize Noelle is trying to make it happen.As soon as Susie realizes what's up, it isn't going to happen.
Suselle wouldn't even be noticeably bad if it wasn't standing next to two of the best written relationships in video game history. If Toby would just make Kris and Susie and Kris and Noelle less compelling a lot of people would stop bitching about Suselle.
>>738043591I didn't think much about it, but I guess you're right.You work as the wingchild in that date.
>>738038054>carries him like he's a dainty girl>gets completely fucked silly by his monstercock every nightfair trade honestly
>>738043591And people constantly try to express it's bad by making up shit like it forces Susie to be OoC or reduces Noelle's character which is insanely myopic. I simply think it's not the type of ship that appeals to people here considering there's fans (usually tumblr people and teenage lesbians) who do actually like it
>>738043675tony should just make kris a harem leader or make it a polycule. dont know why this shit isnt obvious to anyone else. susie doms kris doms noelle doms susie, or noelle doms kris doms susie doms noelle.with dess sitting in the cuck chair lost in the code schlicking to her sister getting fucked
>>738043747Darknercock.They exist to please lightners.Why can monsters bleed again?, I thought they were made of magic, or something.
>>738043876Susie's obviously the harem leader, and she's going to win Ralsei's heart too.
>>738043889monsters work differently in deltarune they can't use magic (unless they're energy based to keep their form i guess) and most of them seem to have bloodgerson's dust muddies things a bit, but given that nobody actually says anything about how the process works, just the burial rites, it is possible that monsters are just cremated instead of naturally dusting would be in line with toby being a giga weeb as well
ZEUS! GIVE ME CHAPTER 5 AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
>>738028239reminder that her, undyne, and noelle are some of the only characters with visible tits
>>738021963they do recognize him retard, you just didn't read the text. shuttah doesn't just recognize him immediately, but has a whole bit about him.>Ooo la la. The Ralsei! I would recognize that silhouette...>Ooo la la. Kris, don't you recognize The Ralsei, your dear companion, your friendship, little flossy boy, the bimbito.and later in the chapter, rouxls calls ralsei "my dearest bimbitoe" implying ROUXLS RECOGNIZED HIM THE ENTIRE TIME.for the record, "flossy" as a term means someone dresses RICH AS SHIT.
Rudy Knight believers anyone?The thing that seals the deal for me is when the Knight laughs at Susie when she says she could kick their ass in the light world. The Knight finding this funny is DEFINITELY supposed to be some kind of hint toward their identity. And it 100% feels like this is a Tricky Tony misdirect he thought he could sneak by us.You're SUPPOSED to think the Knight is laughing because they're cocky and they think Susie could never beat them in the light world. That the Knight is already a powerful person, in the light world.... But doesn't this just FEEL like a misdirect? It totally feels like when the Knight's identity is revealed, we will be made to realize that that wasn't the reason they were laughing, and that the Knight was actually laughing because Susie was more correct than she realizes, or because there's some kind of amusing irony in her statement that we're not aware of.It absolutely seems like the Knight is laughing either cuz>A)they have already defeated Susie in the light world, and she doesn't know it>B)Susie has already defeated THEM in the light world, and doesn't know it>C)they're someone who is incredibly weak in the light world and are laughing because Susie doesn't know how right she is Of those options, it definitely feels like it's C, and if it IS C then holy shit the Knight is definitely Rudy
>>738043675I think that's slightly intendedNoelle was significantly closer to Kris in the past, but whatever happened that caused the split between the Dreemurs and Holidays pushed them apartAnd as for Kris and Susie, I imagine there's going to be some conflict between Kris and her whenever she finds out about what he's been doing in secret with the knight/carol/etc
>>738044396I'm just not a fan of pretending to believe nonsense theories just to be contrarian.
>>738044289>someone who dresses rich as shitso ralsei is something of dess or noelle's then?that could explain ralsei's hesitation with noelle
>>738036491>>738043031By which you mean they get pissed off at the political correctness.
>>738044281She's long.
why is toby so scared of giving his female characters boobs
>>738044447Do you have anything to backup your claim that Rudy Knight is nonsense
>>738044396The laugh could simply just be an aura farmI do think Dess being the knight would be too on the nose, findher.ogg and other foreshadows/teases wouldn't really live up to much of anything if she was just simply the knightThis also could be what causes Rudy's current weakness, maybe being the knight puts a strain on his body or some shit
Monsters must still be made of magic, cuz they turn to dust when they die... But they can't USE magic despite being made of it? ...AND they can bleed?? What, could they bleed this whole time even in Undertale and we just assumed they couldn't...?
>>738045484it's never made clear in ch4 if dusting is something monsters naturally do or if it's another word for cremation both the book in the library and susie dance around it, focusing more on the object buried with them than the actual mechanics of it
I miss when everyone thought ralsei was black and female
>>738045567>femalethey still do lol
I hope we get some world breaking shit with ralsei being brought into the real world somehow
>>738043785But it DOES make them OOC. They become generic stereotypes with no personality of their own. You can't look at shit like the joke that is their "date" and tell me that's the same Susie from chapter 4, or the same Noelle from her time hanging out with Kris. The fact that you people still need to make up cope for the new girl text log is enough to tell about how hollow and soulless the ship is
>>738044079You moron, it was Ares who he asked for help in that battle.
>>738044448no, ralsei is/was a lightner from a rich family who lost it all. he likes dressing up but also thinks he deserves nothing, because he went through a crisis that destroyed his self-worth.
>>738044545>This also could be what causes Rudy's current weakness, maybe being the knight puts a strain on his body or some shit>you need a lot of Determination to open dark fountains >we already know from Undertale that monsters who are exposed to too much Determination get sick and/or dieIt's Rudy. At first he was Determined enough to try and save Dess by himself, but he became sicker and sicker the more fountains he opened. Now that he's weak, he has to rely on a Shadow Crystal (which are made of pure Determination [and his crystal is probably a black knife in the light world]) in order to have enough Determination to open fountains. But of course, it's slowly killing him. This is why he's in league with Kris. Kris can open fountains without getting hurt by it.Also, the baseball bat.... Who do you think was the one who got Dess interested in that sport in the first place? It was Rudy's hobby first and he got Dess into it cuz she's a tomboy.
>>738028520t. suselletroon
>xitterfags are pointing out the super weird shit with noelle>cannot come up with an explanation for itThey're so close.
>>738046081I haven't heard any arguments about Noelle Knight, is there any actual evidence besides the left-handed mouse?
>>738046157he's a schizo with a victim complex, don't engage
>>738046157start here
>>738021885would be kino, but why then ralsei follows the prophecy so much?
wait why are dess knighters getting btfo'd on twitter now
>>738046242>schizo with a victim complexBut enough about DessKniggers.
>>738044396i saw this and then it clicked
https://youtu.be/cnjW0kXuQiQ?si=FAflwcdb-uZTA79g&t=1075
>>738046157Noelle Knight is just the conclusion you would arrive at if December didn't existand also if we didn't have a completely separate and incompatible Evil Noelle plotline going on
>>738046157https://youtu.be/l-pOlvieT-0
Toby... cute
>>738013797The heaps and heaps of Queen erotica.
Nobody will expect that Ice Wolf will be a main character in chapter 5
>>738046263>1280x300
>>738024340>jacking off together with Ralsei in Susie's room
>>738017498when Susie's abusive family is revealed it's going to literally kill me
>>738044507Something something, lolicon Toby is canon
fluffy boys.....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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>>738013797Kind of pisses me off how Toby Fox is incapable of making the game at a decent speed. Really shouldn’t take him 10+ years to make a basic pixel game, imo.
>>738048535Honestly I think the wait is part of his design, people come to anticipate and yearn for something when it tests their patience
>>738048535i wouldn't call it a 'basic pixel 'game'.. but yes it is taking a bit too long. and as the other anon said.. i don't think it is *intentionally* apart of the design, but whats going to happen is that it is going to be *unintentionally* apart of his design. i have a feeling that loads of people will be insecure and anxious if they play this game years after it was finished because they'd missed out on a *perceived* 'big moment' when the game was still being made.
>>738048535i think the 7+ year wait was unintentional and a result of his own arrogance at undertale being hailed as a masterpiece and overestimating his abilities i think he only planned on spending 4-5 years tops on deltarune, but him exploding his wrists and the project stalling out to the point where he had to hire a manager to make sure the game actually gets made, any hope of that vanished somewhere after the sweepstakesi think he genuinely meant it at the time when he said that 7 years was the most he'd spend on making a game, but now he's devoted too much time and effort into deltarune to cancel it, especially now that it's a paid product
>>738048748>tfw played SURVEY_PROGRAM back when I was in 8th grade>tfw I'm in my third year of college now
>>738048535I think that most things that could have went wrong have, hes had health problems, team problems, engine problems, design problems he had to scrap etcHe probably won't be able to make another game after this, granted this game supposedly was his goal all along, so it probably doesn't matter unless he can finish this one
>>738050158>team problemsAll things considered, that could've gone a lot worse.
you lot a bunch of queersa few of you alright, I suppose...
>>738042237>Ey Jimmy, gimme a Deltarune wit nothin'
>>7380414634ching predicted gerson
>>738050681kekked
any of the old muffetfags still around?the ones who stand her being a buttslut in particular
>>738024612seam will be the 6th secret boss, once you give him all the shards
>>738051401Haaru posted some fresh spider donut just a few days agohttps://e621.net/posts/6366961
>>738051401I love Muffet, but I wouldn't call her a buttslut.
>>738048860Reminds me of someone I saw putting the perspective of how long it's been since the last new 3D Mario game (Odyssey in October 2017) in perspective.>if you were in 1st grade back then, you're now almost done with your first year of high school>if you were in 8th grade back then, you're now about to graduate from college sometime in the next few weeks
>>738048860>>738051996>in middle school when undertale released>distinctly remember that there was this group of kids gathered around someone's laptop as flowey was doing his introductiongod imagine if the environment were the same today, how much of an impact gerson would've had.or hell, even when ch2 released and we got the spamton + snowgraveimagine going to school the day after playing ch2, there's this massive crowd, you look over right as the berdly fight starts, and you see snowgrave in the spell list.these little shits will never get that feeling because they're too busy playing scam simulator on roblox.
the image wouldn't need to change if the knight was just taking their helmet off
>>738052532also, the knight does not wear a helmet
>>738051996i was 20 when ch1 dropped i'll be 28 when ch5 drops at times it only feels like 5 years, others it feels like 10
>>738043195They're good people. They refuse to control Kris.
