>Guard quotes memorable>Space Marine quotes memorable>Eldar quotes memorable>Chaos quotes memorable>Ork quotes memorable>Sisters, Dark Eldar, and Tau quotes unmemorableWhy?
>Necron quotes: … buzz …SoB and DE are unfinished and should have been improved in the remake
Chaos easily has the best quotes among all the factions.
>cringehammer
>>738020353soulstorm in general was disappointing. it was rushed I think. dark crusade was awesome
>>738020773>tranimehere's your (you). don't spend it all in one place
>>738020848>>tranimeThey're living rent free in your head anon.
Dawn of War was voiced by like 3 male voice actors and 2 female ones.
>>738020603This is true.
>>738020353Oi deys shootin' us.
>>738020353>Tau quotes unmemorable>Setting stabilizers... Ready to fire
>>738020848>>tranime Really swinging wrecking balls inside a glass house here.
>>738020353Ehhh Sisters had a few that managed to stick in my head.>YOU SHALL NOT... *I* SHALL.
>>738022148that retardation is from like 2 years ago. dow games are 2 decades old now
>>738020603>easilyThe great thing about DoW is that any of the main five are contenders because the margins are so slim.Each one has so many standouts and such a high general standard that it just boils down to personal preference.
>>738020353>>Sisters, Dark Eldar, and Tau quotes unmemorableI was kinda done with DoW once Soulstorm came out, so I don't really remember SoB or DE. Tau were lame though. Fuck them.
>>738020353sisters of battle were a very boring and uninspired faction. dark eldar you are wrong, they had very memorable voice lines and sfx because the actors were hamming it up and that faction has a really strong identity (though it overlaps with chaos a bit)
>>738022267We aren't living two decades ago right now are we, tranny?
>>738022710sob reuses too many sm/ig sfx
>>738020353>transhammer
>>738020603Which pear?
>>738023454>a great game is retroactively ruined because a bunch of mentally ill parasites coopted it sincenah
I legitimately can't recall any eldar unit quotes due to the obnoxious filter in every single line
>>738024898>>something is retroactively ruined because a bunch of mentally ill parasites coopted it sinceThe irony of this after whining about "tranime" will of course escape your double digit IQ brain.
>>738025049>YOU ARE INFERIOR>The Falcon has landed>We have mastered the art of destruction>We are shaped by fate just as we shape it
>>738025365>getting baited into revealing your own shameless hypocrisy so easilyI'll just ruin his fun right now to point out that you yourself proved that everything you've said can be reversed and used against you just as easily, and you're too much or a tribalistic faggot to realise it even as you do so.
>>738025049You don't remember the warp spiders having every syllable be a different pitch?
>>738025482>you're too much or a tribalistic faggotgood morning sir
I only played base game Dawn of War as a kid and never finished itDo all the races have campaigns? Don't care about skirmishes
>>738025562>so buck broken he now plays the jeet card in response to a typo >when the letters are next to each otherI see you realise how much of a hypocrite you are, yet rather than bow out you need to secure a win to keep your ego intact.Pathetic
>>738025653DoW has just space marines, the expansion, winter assault, has a branching campaign with space marines, imperial guard, eldar (Order) vs. chaos space marines, orks (Disorder), and dark crusade & soulstorm have a Risk-style campaign with all available races but it's mostly skirmishes with just main bases for each race being scripted, campaign-like missions; still breddy good
>>738025653Vanilla DoW is SM onlyWinter Assault plays interchangeably with each faction before settling on 1 of 2 routes: Order (IG, Eldar) and Disorder (Orks, Chaos), with a choice on which faction to side with for the final missions.Dark Crusade and Soulstorm have a Risk-style map that you take over via skirmishes, but with unique stronghold missions to eliminate a faction and unique missions for territories that grant some macrogame bonus if you hold them.Vanilla DoW2 and the Chaos Rising expansion follows SM only, but Retribution allows you to play the campaign with every faction, but there's no variation beyond NPC IG being allied or not, and some factions unlock their superunit on different side missions.The entry that doesn't exist alternates between factionsDoW4 looks to have individual campaigns for each faction
>>738024129Dis Pear!
>>738022148I heard they did that because some retard went to a tournament in a Nazi uniform and had to cover there asses from the Britbong sjw police
>>738026084Funny part was that the tournament was in Spain, not bongistan
>>738024129DIS PEAR! FOR I HAVE CUM!
>>738020353>>Sisters, Dark Eldar, and Tau quotes unmemorableSoulstrom is shit, that's why, and Tau are plain boring.
>>738025994>>738026029Risk-like is fine, I did like that in Rise of Nations
>>738020353I am hoping we get some character quotes and responses for when total war comes out
>>738025482>n-no u...lollmao
>>738026084What's wrong with cosplaying as a Krieger?
>>738026328No it wasn't even a krieger. It was literally a dumbass who wore a nazi outfit and prob didn't know the difference.
>>738026525Wait, so GW genocided their playerbase because of one autist in a room of hundreds in a single tourney?
>>738026328Dude didn't even pretend it wasn't a nazi uniform, straight up wearing swastikas instead of the AquilaThey couldn't kick him out at the moment, but when not a single person wanted to play against him in the event? they had no choice but to either get the moron out or just let him win by default
>>738026705>you can win tournaments by wearing a nazi uniformInsane tech
>>738026758why do you think they had to nerf it?
>>738026793Oh I don't give a fuck about tabletopniggers, I'm thinking of soccer or F1 or something
>>738026863>Oh I don't give a fuck about tabletopniggerspleb
>>738020353I remember some DE lines but the only lines from the Sisters that I remember is from the Missionary>FROM THE LIGHTNING, AND THE TEMPEST, EMPEROR DELIVER USSSSSSSS
>>738020353Kroot quotes are all greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epPUs6RlPnc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqI-HqYr2p4>You are strong, it will be good to have this strengthSisters are very low effort reskin of Space Marines and IG. Didn't even get a unique builder
>>738026705>not a single person wanted to play against him Because they knew they stood no chance. Why else would these cucks give up the opportunity to humiliate the nazi?
>>738027039Their servitors are more wiry, at least
>>738026640Yes.
>>738022148>Uhh... media literacy much? Didn't you know that there were no good guys in 40k? The Imperium are hecking fascists, chud. >Oh, by the way, the Emperor says trans rights, women's liberation, and racial equity.
>>738020353>Da payshent huntah gets da prey
>>738027256To be fair, things like transgender people (Slaanesh) Women's liberation (Astra militarum) and Racial equity (Again, militarum or the whitest Argentinians in the salamanders) are a thing within the setting
SETTING STABALIZERS. READY TO FIRE
>>738027430I thought Salamanders were all just Samuel L Jackson.>I am tired of all this motherfucking chaos in this motherfucking system
Everyone knows Necron got the best quotes>Kzzztkkz>Bwoom>Bwaaauuumm>Hwwoooorrrr
>>738020773Only good post ITT
STOP FOR NO ONE
>>738027430It's just funny how progressives try to position the Imperium as being this backwards, oppressive, fascist state, while simultaneously having the Imperium agree with their progressive positions.
>>738027536>Salamanders>They all look like stern bald men made from solid dark brown stone red glowing eyes>Their specialty is using fire in battle and base their look around dragon iconography>Are actually one of the nicest space marine chapters and put protecting civilian life above all others and will question the actions of other chapters who disregard it
I CAN FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME, IT IS A GOOD PAIN
>>738026863Based, tabletop secondaries need to fuck off already
>>738027536They're all blackface due to a mutation in their auto-darkening skin switched to max at all times, and they're one of the friendliest chapters that care more about saving civilians than glory, unless spess elves are involved.
>>738020353FROM THE FIRE, AND THE TEMPESTEMPEROR DELIVER US~
>>738027919The Imperium has cool Gothic architecture and everything sounds cooler in Latin. That means I agree with the Imperium's politics.
>>738028005The power consumes me!
>>738028187>gundam>war is badI wish people would stop parroting this retarded secondary opinion
>>738020353
>>738020773Genshin's worldbuilding borrows a lot from the good version of cringehammer
>>738026705How would people not want to play him? If they hate nazis surely that gives them a better reason to win and if they don't care they don't care.
>>738028381It's actually an intelligent primary opinion.
>>738028475I also tend to avoid interacting with people with furfag or tranny avatars in video gamesI lost to a tranny once in a PvP game and uninstalled on the spot, the risk just isn't worth it
>>738028475Too scared that they'll be canceled for interacting with him in the first place, regardless of their intention.
>>738026640>Wait, so GW genocided their playerbaseif being told "don't be a racist retard" is "genociding the playerbase" then the playerbase is retarded and deserve it>>738027919>Imperium as being this backwards, oppressive, fascist stateit is though and that's the appeal, if you can't understand the keyfabe and genuinely internalize pro-theocracy and fascist beliefs IRL because you think space robot supermen are cool, you have brain damage
>>738028553So why aren't fursuits banned from 40k tourneys? How come GW didn't put out a notice about furries not being welcome?
>>738028475To be fair, he was an eldar player
>>738028475>Play him and win>"Hmph, you needed a fictional scenario to win against me, just like your ideology">Play him and lose>"Hmph, seems like I'm just naturally superior to you"
>>738028637Oh, get him out then.
>Eliphas being freaked the fuck out by the Necron Lord's only spoken (but inaudible) lines>Eliphas trying to taunt O'kais but his psyker projection just registers as comm static and he's ignoredReal fucking shame they changed his VA for DoW 2
>THIS IS THE JUDGEMENT OF THE RIGHTEOUS, SCUM!>WE STRIKE WITH THE WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS!
>>738028685Imagine if Eliphas came back yet again in the CSM expansion/DLC
>>738020353REPORTING FOR DUTY SHR
>>738028543>primary>when the director disagrees
>>738027430To be fair, it’s liberal progressive politics trying to square the circle with a setting that is antithetical to everything they believe and trying to forcibly alter it to fit
>>738026084That's some prime cope right there. WH40K is by and for lgbtq+ community.
>>738029082Why else did they base a first founding chapter around a gay bar and a gay poet?
WITNESS YOUR DOOM!!GLORY FOR THE FIRST MAN TO DIE! CHARGE!!OH NO... NOT THEM!SHATTER THE SKY!!THOUGHT THEY BROKE OUR BACKS?! HA!!FEAR ME BUT FOLLOW!
>>738020848>responding to brainrot with more brainrotI guess its like fighting fire with fire, but shit with shit. Unfortunately it just ends up with shit all over the board
>>738029128>first founding chapter
What's better, a Vindicare or a Ghost?
>>738024898I could make this same argument for every mutt retard like yourself trying to claim 4chan isn't an anime website.
>>738020773
>>738030889Can Vindicares shield themselves from psykers? I'm pretty sure ghosts are mind readers so the vindicare would have a hard time hiding his location.
>>738026039For I am the END OF GAYS
>>738030889A Vindicaire for sniping specifically but a Ghost for pretty much everything else.
>>738030889You get 1 vindicare and he will 100% kill commander and hero units no problem. You need about a dozen or more ghosts to get anything done with them.
>>738020353>Dark Eldar quotes unmemorableHOIST THE FLAG OF COMMORRAGH
>>738020353>Prosper, as Tau shall>Where do you need the elite>You're strong! Well eat you to gain that strength >Missiles locking onAs for Sisters, canonness and the missionary get all the good ones, with the exception of>Behold... the Immolator!
>>738020603Schizo babbling is always pure kino, whether it's real life or 40k>DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?>RARRRRBHAHAHRBGRRLL
>>738026640GW is a britbong company. One UK historical wargaming channel had go cease operations because the police kept knocking on their doors after WW2 games episodes.
>>738028187ftfy
>>738020353>>738030889>>738031735>>738031762Shhh, be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting xenos.
>>738020353>tau quotes unmemorableThere's at least 5 of them that live rent free in my head at any given moment>Banish your fear>SHAS'LA READY FOR ACTION>The Fire Caste serves with pride!>Each Caste does its part for the Greater Good>Where do you need the elite
>>738032929ACK-
>>738020773>anime girl.You did it on purpose. You acted like a hypocritical faggot on purpose because you knew we would point it out.
>>738020603marines and elites are S tier but the cultists and slaves are fucking horrible and makes me want to mute the game
>>738030889What the fuck did they do to the ghost's voice in 2?
>>738033375Heretic would be S tier if they were all womenBLESS US, GREAT ONE
>>738033375they're good, just not a good choice for something you have to listen to constantly
>>738033709exactly
>>738033375The heretic is the best DESU, it's even better when they flatter and praise me as I make them work to death.
>>738020603>Cross me...and die.It's like anime, but not cringe because the voice is pure sex.
Heretics in DOW2 were great, I absolutely loved the Worship mechanic.Plus their voices weren't grating
>>738034153Are the chaos expansion chaos campaigns like the space marine ones, but with chaos marines in your team instead? Having some bantering csms like first claw sounds like a good time.Or are they something completely different like a chaos lord with a bunch of cultists or something?
>>738034517There is no Chaos campaign in Chaos Rising. You just play as the Blood Ravens again and you can potentially fall to chaos. The Chaos campaign in Retribution has you playing a full-on Chaos team, but the voice acting isn't the greatest.
>>738020603Y-yess lord? Whatever you desire
>>738033426They got Liam O'Brien to do the same voice he does in every anime dub he's in
>>738033375>CHAAAaaaarrge!
>>738035213CHAOS IS STROOOONG
>>738035213>AUUGH MY SPLEEN
>>738034746>RetributionYeah meant that one. Are they actually bantering and acting like the bitter boomers they are with unsettled scores with other legions, loyalist and traitor alike, or are they just doing the boring thing of screaming about chaos demons and being true believers? Csm are always best when they're about their own goals where chaos is just a means to an end, and then they do faustian bargain and start getting taken over by it.
>>738035213HOWWW can I help youuu
>>738028685>Dark Crusade Necrons speak through a recently converted Pariah because their lord doesn't speak>Soulstorm Necron lord is a chatterboxKino
>QUICK! Pitch your dream Space Marine 3!
>>738020603The cultists' whiney, stupid ass voice lines gave us Pic related so I'm inclined to agree
>>738035315Retribution's Chaos plot follows Eliphas trying to usurp Kyras so he can ascend into a Daemon Prince himself. The problem with Retribution's Chaos campaign is that they only have 2 voiced characters, (((Steve Blum))) Eliphas and Neroth aka angry Sindri, so most of the banter goes between both of them as the other 2 heroes are generics. Most of the generic CSM enemies and Traitor Guard otherwise have pretty generic motivations, but they have really hammy voice acting.Eliphas does have pretty good bantz with Davian Thule (who is Chaos' prologue boss) and Kyras when they do interact however.
>>738035315It's been forever since I played DoW2 but I'm pretty sure the gist of it is that Eliphas gets ressurected by Abaddon, which changes his entire personality and voice, and in return he has to do whatever the fuck the plot of Retribution was (it's the same for all campaigns) or his soul is le doomed. He fucking hates his sorcerer though but it's not as good as Bale and Sindri. I'm not sure if the other squad leaders even have voice lines in the campaign that's how unmemorable they are
>>738028685>I've got a buzzing in my comms. Switching channels.
>>738035579The beeping will continue until morale improves
>>738035667Abadabadoo revives Eliphas and sends him on the corrupted Blood Ravens Chapter Master, who wants to sacrifice the entire sector, to stop him from killstealing the Blood Ravens. The sorceror Neroth is sent as his snitch and Eliphas' advisor, but he's not really competent outside of shitting out a million doombolts.
>>738028685I always thought that O'kais heard him fine, just decided to ignore him.
>>738028685>>738035693I took this to mean that chad tau commander was calling his monologuing nonsense and being a bit cheeky, not that it actually registered as nothing
>>738035727Why is that Mr culexus despite on a technical level being kind of a shitter at art, so unimaginably good at making good character designs I for one am really fond of cuddlesIt's like a ZUN situation or something
>>738035667Kaptin Bloodflagg's whole gist was about finding a replacement for his lost flagship, Brickfist is main linebreaker was probably one of the few orks in the series that's psychotic as shit compared to the usual bongoid hooligan getups.
>>738035976Saying the plot is the same might've not been the best choice of words, what I meant is that everyone goes after the same objectives because they had to figure out how to repeat the same campaign 6 times with the least amount of effort due to THQ collapsing around them. Everyone has different motivations but they're all going through the same motions
>>738035693Chaos has never truly recovered from this shamefur dispray. Up there with getting their shit kicked in by an autistic firewarrior.
>>738035949Zun's art does have that programmer feel to it, but it is still far better than his games make it out to be. For some reason though his characters instantly look worse as soon as he colors in his line art.
>>738035612>>738035667Shame. Though the whole demon and chaos worship is like the norm it seems, where night lords and iron warriors are the exception, so shouldn't be surprised. Even if that's the case I think they could do more to make chaos plots feel less sunday cartoon villain evil and more interesting, even if they're drank the chaos gods kool-aid word bearers-tier, as that's true in the BL books, say what you want about them but they often make them more compelling. I almost get some second hand embarassment thinking about this being someone's first entry into 40k and they think chaos is this boring.
>>738036353>For some reason though his characters instantly look worse as soon as he colors in his line artColoring is a skill, bad coloring will look worse than no coloring, and Zun shit looks like it's painted with Paint default colors only
>>738036360>Chaos is full of... chaos worship? How could this be?Jokes aside DoW was my first introduction to 40k (and what made me a chaostard to begin with) and I vastly prefer Chaos as power hungry backstabbing retards (to a point, Crull was overkill) to humanizing them since you need far more skill to pull that off and both the librarian in base DoW and DoW2CR failed to make it compelling enoughThey nailed Chaos with Eliphas and we still haven't gotten a better rep in vidya than him (haven't played TW since I'm not interested in fantasy, maybe there's someone better there)
>>738033375WEEE HAVE CAPTHUURED IT, FOR KHAYOSSSS!
>>738036956well, as you say, it should be a full spectrum of characters. from retards who see themselves as martyrs for the greater good, to egomaniacs who think they're exploiting the gods, to the dangerous charismatic preacher types who don't care about anything other than corruption. they shouldn't ever be pigeonholed
>>738035463Deathwatch with really different squad members from incompatible chapters that are bound to create friction and conflict with each squad member's shameful past that got some of them put in the watch coming to light, but they slowly grow to be bros by the end. Titus has to wrangle these disparate retards and bring them together. Some options like >Black templar autist greatshield tank proclaiming the emperor's divinity while Titus from rationalmarines gets really assblasted about it>Space wolf rune priest insisting his shit isn't psyker stuff and everyone mocks him for it>blood angel mobile jetpack guy who's the refined one always pointing out the art they're passing by and when he inevitably gives into the red thirst the BT sees him as an abomination and they come to blows before becoming brosAlso some Light squad commands to give out like republic commando ( doesn't need to get to swat 4 levels or anything). or just give us alternating missions with a loyalist and a traitor squad respectively like in Gears of war 2 and in the end they fuck each other up and you can choose the last third of the game for who you want to play us for the remainder
>>738028469Hola skinks!
>>738020525Frankly, I don't mind Necrons being space tomb kings if it meant they had personality.
>>738020525MY LOOOORDTHE LIVIIIING- *ack*
>>738020603Hey guys look!
>>738020525>>Necron quotes: … buzz …SOUL
>>738025716Skin-chad, don't bother. Just tell the Kroxigors to eat him, lol.
>>738035463>SM1: Orks n Chaos>SM2: 'Nids n ChaosTherefore SM3, for variety's sake should be focused on Chaos, but there's also some Dark Eldar for variety and you get a partner in a Craftworld Eldar.
>>738037408RINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
>>738037641This but reverse - Dark Eldar buddy while you fuck up regular Eldar
>>738037749THE COWARDSTHE FOOLSWE...*asthma attack*
>>738033231the broadsides are so fucking cool with that deep voice.
>>738035463Either just no chaos shit or go whole hog with Chaos from the get go I don't really care for another 'Actually chaos is behind the events of the game' again.Also Chaos is really one of the few enemy factions where you can have multiple tiers of enemies that make sense.>Cultists and traitor guard for mob enemies>Normal daemons for tougher enemies>Chaos marines & termies for elites and tougher elites>Daemon beasts for other kinds of monsters>Greater daemon for a boss fight
>>738037821METAL....BAWXES......*Hits Inhaler*
>>738025049All who love life...fear the reaper.
>SANITY IS FOR THE WEAKAre chaos just 4chan posters?
KILL, KILL!MUST KILL, MUST KILL!!!WHY AREN'T WE KILLING YET?WAHDBABWDBAWJHDBAWDBAWDUIUAIWDUIAWARRGRGARGRGRGGRAGGRGA
All in on fighting off a giant Chaos Undivided Black Crusade targeting the 500 Worlds. You have some chaos cultist chaff but the main focus is fighting off Chaos Space Marines, both standard ones and specialists belonging to each of the Chaos Gods. If you absolutely had to tie in a xenos too, then Necrons, but overall I think that's going to push the game in being much more shooty and I think the game benefits from more melee oriented factions
>>738038029Literally me according to the chinese personality tests from last thread
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
>>738027536Salamanders literally just have vantablack skin with red eyes, they don't have african features.The actual african SM chapter is the Celestial Lions (who got fucked up by the Inquisition aka glowies, pure coincidence though :^) )
>>738037190this is what I prefer but, I see that on the tabletop and how the units look it's leaning way more towards crazy over the top demon worship with really disgusting and freaky models, and I don't want to ruin it for guys like>>738036956 I'm very aware that what I enjoy is very subjective and probably not what the majority likes in the faction, so it doesn't actually need that range of characters, for many they can all out screaming of chaos from the top of their lungs and that's what they like. tldr I think I want chaos to be something it's not. And that's gay.
>>738033375AAAAAHH MY SPLEEN
>>738038129Damn, I was lied to all those years ago.
My buddies and I have been playing a lot of unification lately and the fact that a bunch of nerds got together to write and record their very best impression of the shogun total war 2 announcer guy is pretty funny.
>>738038339Well it is a funny meme, but as with all funny memes it soon attracts absolute cretins that run them into the ground and think they're canon.
>>738034153Redux mod adds that mechanic to DoW 1. Also adding a Slaanesh worship that gives speed and morale regen
>>738035579Old /tg/ gave us so many wonders.
>>738038408All SM chapters can have black guys, including Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Ultramarines.
>>738035727
>>738037912>Actually chaos is behind the events of the game'This shit really does feel stale. If you assisted imperial guard for a mission, and then have it end with the baneblade tank aiming its sights at you and obliterating one of your squad members and then the next mission is fighting traitor guard, then that would be kino.
>>738038557Well, not Blood Angels. They physically get turned into angelic Aryan ubermensch when they become Space Marines.
>>738038557Considering places like ultramar have like 500 planets wouldn't it be unlikely for them not to have a ton of variety in ethnicities in their chapter? Even if they recruited from a single planet,since all worlds would have colder parts and a hotter equator then there'd be bound to be different ethnicities almost everywhere even if the ice planet is known for its icy parts and not-vikings and not the temperate part with olive skin space meds or whatever, right?
>>738038239>I don't want to ruin it for guys like>>738036956(You)You're free to do so, I don't play tabletop nor have any plans to, the few games of 40k and KT I played with a friend over TTS were the most miserable tabletop experience I've ever had, I genuinely don't understand why anyone plays this. GW had exactly one chance to hook me into at least buying their plastic and they fucking blew it when Lost&Damned lost support so quickly it was less of a release and more of a literal scam. I know Kill Team has traitor guard stuff but I don't see a reason to give GW money after that shitAnd I was talking about vidya where Chaos always ends up as antagonists so the powerhungry archetype works better, I don't have anything against other versions of chaos, but they need far more setup than typical 40k vidya usually allows. Chaos Rising could've had a good corruption arc if it wasn't so half assed to rely entirely on whichever squadmate has the biggest evilness meter
>>738038738Don't look up the new Armageddon box
>>738028583You're brown
>>738038738Anon, you haven't been keeping up with today's release.
>>738039059>>738039290They just can't help themselves.
>>738039290lollmao
>>738038926It's more about vibes. Space vikings feel like they should look norse, space roman legion ultramarines feel like they can have a lot of different looking folks, even if core should probably be italian-looking, space sharks polynesians with white trash with maori tattoos just feels lame, same with people trying to argue that space marines shouldn't have women because of some lore reason of some technicality within the geneseed instead of just being honest and like, there shouldn't be female space marines for the same reason you wouldn't put them in your templar game, they're supposed to be warrior monks, just as sisters are warrior nuns, mixing that up is just fucking with that aesthetic and coolness.
>>738038557this was literally never a thing until like 2 years ago you communist nigger faggot, when you become a space marine you are literally transformed to look like your gene sire, nigger marines dont exist even in the salamanders.
>>738038953 (You)Now that I remember it, Rogue Trader would've been a lot better with chaos options being justified with "greater good", at least at the start, instead of being written with the assumption that this is the "evil playthrough" and your character is just evil from the start. That might work for other settings but in 40k it's far harder to justify picking options that are so blatantly fucking chaotic in nature that even an Ogryn wouldn't fall for them without roleplaying as someone already converted to Chaos before the game starts, which in turn makes it impossible to justify why no one kills you for being such an obvious fucking traitor especially given the fact Argenta already killed the last RT for far less
>>738020353Only thing i remember is some space marine mumbling about unguarded gates
>>738039290>Eradicators (Heavy Bolters)Still kinda confused why this wasn't the first Fireline model they made. Shame about the dumb little gun shield. Not much of a fan of that. I wonder when GW will abandon this crappy little single weapon type squads have had since Primaris and go back to marines using combined arms.
>>738028583I internalise the belief that space robot supermen are cool because I have fascist beliefs IRL, actually. I got into warhammer because it was the only franchise that had the balls to depict fascism as objectively good.
>>738038926Given the extent to which technologically advanced humans can adapt to their environment without physical changes to our bodies it isn't really clear how realistic every planet in the imperium having large physical differences in the population due to environment. But also 40k is a setting where some humans have indeed branched off in to ogryns, ratlings, and more, so whether it is realistic is neither here nor there because it is in fitting with the setting. The main issue is that the imperium is all "I hate mutants" so the only way to have human ethnic variety is by varying skin tones within the currently normal human range. The radiation turning all the salamanders black isn't more realistic than a space time anomaly tuning all the people in a star system in to purple vampires, but fans would have a hard time accepting a canon regiment of purple vampire imperial guard becauae hating aliens and mutants is part of the imperium's bit.
>>738035213>HOW HAVE WE FAILED??????
>>738038926ultramar is literally 500 worlds of space french retard.
>>738020353>Dark EldarSPLINTER MEISTER! STING!SPLINTER MEISTER! STING!a TAYSTE.....of MADNESS....>Sisters"THROUGH THE LIGHTNING and the TEMPEST.... Emperor deliver uuuussss~ I REMAIN PUREBY THE EMPERORS LIGHT I LEEADwitchcraft HERESY and MUTATION! >:O>TauREMEMBER THE LESSONS... OF VIO' LAAASPACE MARINES? they will pay dearly for Damoclese...THEY ARE STRONG it will be good to have that strength, THEY ARE STRONG it will be good to have that strength, HURRY UP! THERES NOT MUCH LEFT!
>>738039732It doesn't portray fascism positively. The entire Imperium is clearly a parody of a Catholic space Nazi civilization where all culture degenerates so everyone is insane.
>>738039757>Given the extent to which technologically advanced humans can adapt to their environmentYou can count the amount of imperial worlds that would do large scale genetic projects like that one one hand, most don't give a shit if the entire world is slowly dying of ass cancer from the toxic fumes because for every 1 person who dies from it and could've lived longer with treatment there's 10 billion that die long before that from all the other shit imperium subjects them to
>>738040339>imperium>naziWonder if this meme will ever die out.
>>738040428retarded leftoid niggers only know how to call things they dont like or are any kind of authoritarian nazi even though the nazis were extremely liberal by nature of being socalists.
>>738035579has mossa drawn lovey-dovey emps + cultist-chan nakadashi yet?
>>738039757>>738039757It is realistic. Living on an alien planet even if its earth like would cause changes in both your genome and how your genes express pretty much the moment you start breathing its air. It could produce visible physical changes in only one generation manifesting as birth defects. You wouldn't even need ten thousand years to make ogrin or ratlings really assuming everyone doesn't die horrifically in a year because of alien prions or something. If anything 40k was overly conservative with how divergent abhumans would be.
>>738040428>>738040509The Imperium:>Controls all facets of life in its people, including thought, culture, and information>Brutally suppresses any dissention>Indoctrinates all citizens with unceasing propaganda>Is permanently at war with all of its neighbors>Prizes military strength above all things>Is horrifically racist against all non-humans and abhumans (minorities)>Treats war as a defining national purpose>Considers all absolute authority to be from its leader rather than its people>Treats its citizens' lives as a disposable resource>Likes floppy fancy hatsYeah, many of these things apply to other ideologies, but you're being stupid on purpose if you choose to ignore how obvious the parallels are.
>>738020353>Eldar quotes memorableOh yeah? Let's hear one
>>738039530>>738038953>but they need far more setup than typical 40k vidyathat's a good point, there usually isn't much time to much at all in the rts at least, dow2 did have more dialogue than 1 though and I think you could throw in differnet people on the chaos spectrum as previously mentioned itt and still get something out of it pretty quick, even if it's super on the nose. "My lord, take heed not to let the demons get the better hand of you" "Fear not chaos marinius, all is under control" type thing, like a warcraft 3 plotline. The chapter background and their specific beef with specific chaptersa nd all this is hard to get to though. Blood ravens hardly get time to talk about anything like it. >instead of being written with the assumption that this is the "evil playthrough"
>>738031841(1 hp attack move into squiggoth)>I see what your plan is...
>>738026029>unique missions for territories that grant some macrogame bonus if you hold them.Taking the starport first is strongly recommended because it lets you attack any sector, not just adjacent ones
>>738040698does he even draw anymore? dont remember any updates in a while
>>738039892guilliman's napoleon now?
>>738039530>chaos options being justified with "greater good"Yeah it should have been a game-long secret quest line that only you know about. Like you're getting more and more involved with that whisper in your head
>>738040808>Controls all facets of life in its people, including thought, culture, and informationNot reallyIt's not anywhere near that totalitarianThat requires far more organization than the Imperium is capable ofOn most planets you never interact with the Imperial government more than once a decade when it's time for the tithe
>>738040883>Rush, the enemy, position>Looks how it changes as I play!>FuLly MaTerIaLizeD AnD PreParEd FoR WaR>Just as the Falcon brought Anaris to Eldanesh, we bring warriors to the front
>>738041102Well, obviously that's the ideal, but the Imperium has to compromise often with reality.
>>738040883>I COME TO DANCE>THE DANCE OF DEATH
Are there any worlds in the Warhammer 40K universe which are calm and peaceful?
>>738040883>My music is a pillar upon which whole worlds have been built.>Command me to build>Look, it changes as I play>You cannot imagine what we have seen with our eyes>We are Kurnous' hounds, sent to the hunt>All who love life, fear the reaper>Just as Falcon brought Anaris to Eldanesh, we bring warriors to the front. >This battle calls for massive firepower>The random hand of fate delivers me to you>The mist of space and time retreat from my mind>What do you know of war?>We are shadowy death>Waiting here is but a pHAAaaaase of our existence>This world moves so slowly
>>738040808>4th grade holocaust class jewish fairytaleshow many bugs do you have from sucking down shitholes faggot?
>>738041190Aeldari Exodite worldsImperial Agri-worlds
>>738041190the vast majority are peaceful, very few planets in reality ever see chaos, aliens or heretics.
>>738040808getting boss baby vibes from this
>>738041216Nothing I said was incorrect about the Imperium, and all of those apply to the Nazis except MAYBE all authority extending from the leader.
>>738041190Yes, heaps. Most worlds are ag-worlds, or just civilized worlds. Their outputs are food, or just various goodsEg Janus in Rogue Trader is a pretty sleepy planet, exporting grain. Yes there is a small problem with a chaos cult, but once you sort that out it's back to being a nice place.The vast population of hive worlds means that, at random, you're more likely to live on one of them, but such planets are rare and most planets are just peaceful pleasant places.
>>738041326Nazi hats were not floppy.
>>738041250>>738041273>>738041373Thanks guys.I admit I hardly know anything about 40K but from what little I'd seen it appeared as if every corner of the galaxy was just nonstop warfare. Glad that isn't the case.
>>738041416Oh come on.
>>738041190It depends on your definition of peaceful. The population of a world may attribute it's ultimate loyalty to the Imperium, but many civilized worlds host multiple warlords or noble families who share influence and compete to be the main hegemon that serves the Imperium most directly. Hive cities often go to war with each other over Resource and Trade rights, Agriworlds might have rival Overseers trying to lay claim to a fertile part of a continent, Shrineworld Cardinals might fight small scale holy wars over possession of a Relic. As long as the world fulfills it's tithe, the Imperium doesn't actually care much. Likewise the leaders of those worlds don't care about their population much as long as social cohesion is strong enough to fulfill their obligations. Which means the lower tiers of society are often dominated by crime lords.These are conflicts that would occur on these worlds on their own, ignoring the fact that these worlds are also often beset by countless Xenos races and the forces of Chaos. On average you might get to live most of your life relatively peacefully but there is probably going to be a period of violence at some point for the majority of people.
>>738041568Do you know what "Floppy" means?
>>738041190Not by our standards. Even the less "shitty" worlds are still dystopian and ran in tyrannical ways, mostly just due to the way the imperial governance works. Essentially planetary governors don't really have any checks or limits to how they treat their subjects outside of keeping the tithes to the Imperium going, shipping the psykers from their worlds to the black ships whenever they come around, and not consorting with Xenos.Because of this, the average citizens of the imperium have basically zero rights and no real ways of fighting the abuses their rulers inflict on them outside of outright rebelling against them. There is a reason why most of the fighting Imperial Guard does is against rebelling Imperial worlds.
>>738041568The inspiration was clearly the soviet hatsHitler's just wearing normal officer's hat no different than US or UK hats
>>738041102Where you live in the Imperium gives a completely different view of it. A farm world is kept in a agrarian level of technology and see anyone coming from the Imperium as literal angels working about behalf of the God Emperor. You could be living a awful existence on a hive-world totally ignorant of what lies beyond the towering spires above you as you toil keeping the machines running at the cost of your life expectancy. You could be someone living in a section in the heart of the Imperium far away from any war living a basic life taking in the propaganda about how great the Empire is as you go to work in some basic office job. The Imperium is a very diverse place all due to the events during the Dark Age of Technology that fractured and separated the human worlds. Some stayed the same and advanced, some stagnated and others collapsed either becoming technologically regressed worlds or just died off. There's planets still within the borders that have no idea about anything going on for a multitude of reasons thinking it's just them in the universe and then one day some Imperium ship comes in and tells them they're subjects of the Imperium of man and it's time to start contributing to the effort to keep the enemies at bay.
>>738040808Damn near all of those are justifiable in the setting as it is, and not whatever theoretical paradise leftists always use to compare things with. Even the "controls all facets of life of its people" is more a leftist thing to do, when practically all variants of socialism are very interested in the private interests of individuals than any feudalistic system would ever be. Which is more what the Imperium actually is in practice, space feudalism mixed with a theocracy as the Emperor is the final word on everything, and the High Lords claim that they speak for the Emperor. Recent lore changes means Guilliman quite literally enacts the will of the Emperor since he personally spoke with him, as much as it disheartened him to do.
>>738042165>space feudalism mixed with a theocracyYeah I mean it's the holy roman empire in spaceComplete clusterfuck of competing powersJust like the warhammer fantasy empire is the holy roman empire in a fantasy world
Guess what, assholes? I learned I was a psyker last week, and the Emperor already asked to meet with me, they're sending a ship for me right now.Go fuck yourselves, losers, I'm outta here to Terra.
>>738042659The Empire in Fantasy was unironically more united most of the time than the Imperium is even at the best of times.
>>738020353>Tau quotes unmemorableSO SAYS THE SLAVE TO THE FREE MAN
>>738040883LONG AGO LILEATH FORTOLD THIS DAYwe are KURONOS HOUNDS sent to the huntlook! it CHAAAAnges as I play!We shape it as it shapes us.waiting here is but a PHAaaAAase of our existence.faster! to battle!DRINK from the BITTER CUP of defeat.we LIVE..to MOVE.
Yes
>Aah, a challenge worthy of my skills!
>>738020353SoB were kind of phoned in as a whole, but the Canoness and Missionary are somewhat memorable. DEldar are understandably an acquired taste, anyone who likes playing them will probably have the slave and Reaver Jetbike lines burned into their mind.>>738039290What's with the Scions on the side?
>So you need me now....>They will pay.... for their arrogance!>Witness your DOOOOMI like how he seems to have a major chip on his shoulder
>>738020353Because they were DLC factions.
Why did Elpihas go from a Word Bearer to Black Legion?
>>738049430>Soulstorm>Dark Crusade>DLC
>>738020353The only Dark Eldar quotes I can think off that stick out are the builders.>NAAAOOOOH, NAHT THA WHIPS!
>>738049721Spin offs selling dlc tier content.
>>738020525>remake
>>738039224You wish.
>>738050471they're called standalone expacs (expansion packs)
>>738049581Abaddon swiped his soul and turned him into his personal bitch
>BREAK THEIR BUUUUUUUUUCKSWhat did the berserkers mean by this
>>738040339>doesn't portray fascism positivelyLiterally everything they do which leftosts consider "bad" is not merely justified by the lore but straight up depicted as a moral obligation.
>>738052523>justified by the loreOnly because it's written that way.
>>738048953Are you talking about the Veteran Guardsmen in the bottom-right?
>>738052464They didn't know Inquisitor Toth was only in the first game
>>738052587The Stormtroopers. I'm wondering what the story is there since I haven't caught up with all the news for 11th and they're not part of the big box.
>>738052523lol no
>>738052574Yes retard. That was literally the initial argument. WH40k is written as a fascist power fantasy and that's why it's based. What sort of statement is this anyway? "only because" it's fucking fiction. The only reason anthing is the way it is is because it's written that way.
>>738052574Congratulations, anon, you've discovered how fiction works.
>>738052757How's the copium, tranny? No matter how many retarded statements GW shits out 40k will always be a setting in which the imperium being totalitarian and committing genocides is the only correct choice for humanity's survival. Cope, seethe and dilate.
I hope DoW 4 or TW40k get votann as a playable faction.>>738041972Hey I have that exact same hat! I bought it during a trip to Greece as a father's day gift
>>738020525>should have been improved in the remakelmao, it was an ai upscale did you want more? too bad you'll pay for less
>>738052762>>738052796They didn't have to write it that way, but they chose to They're deliberately tricking people into admiring fascism.
>>738053212You didn't have to write that, you chose to be a retard. Do you admire being retarded?
>>738053212>trickingBut fascism is based and morally superior to liberal democracies. It's why the jews hated it.
>>738053212How should they have written it then fuckface? Are you seriously pulling the wrongthink card? Is there an approved list of world governments you can include in science fiction now?
>>738037408Why do I feel like there are cowards and fools hiding in them?
>>738042090>A farm world is kept in a agrarian level of technology and see anyone coming from the Imperium as literal angels working about behalf of the God Emperor.Man, 'farm world' specifically is an incredibly unfortunate choice of words, making it unclear if you're lumping feudal worlds together with actual agri-worlds. The former being a primitive pre-industrial world that the imperium has decided not to expend the resources to technologically develop and which can be a relatively okay place to live, and the latter being fully industrialized for maximum output with no regard for environmental damage and living/working conditions. Expect to be exposed to hyper-toxic pesticides 24/7.
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>>738020353>My reaver jetbike is made of pure pain... and pure SNEED>They told me I could build things and not get beaten all the time!!11!!!1!
>>738054265Yeah there was a medieval planet in the latest Rogue Trader DLC, and aside from a chaos cult among the elite, it seemed a pretty relaxed place to live
>>738054265Plenty of worlds are even exempt from the tithe because their population and tech level are too low. Maybe someday the Imperium will develop them but for now they just have smallish populations living their lives.
>>738053212I don't know man, fascism is kinda epic. desu...
>>738057847This but unironically. World would be paradise if every country on earth was an ethnonationalist fascist state minus the jingoism. Respect the existence of foreign people and races as long as they're outside your borders. Eradicate them with about as much empathy as you'd have for a parasitic tic otherwise.
>World would be paradise if every country on earth was an ethnonationalist fascist stateAre you 13 years old?
>>738058216No, but I don't frequent GCJ if that helps.
>>738020525The lower-ranking Necrons making ominous generator noises was one of the coolest things about them to me.
>>738058315Fascism relies on irredentism, militarism, rallying up people into fanaticism based on the perceived threat of an enemy, either external or internal. You cannot have "peaceful fascism". And the nonsense about unity of the classes won't fly when economic inequality has reached comical levels.
>>738058613>You cannot have "peaceful fascism"Yeah you can (China)
MAKE A STANDHEREEANDDDNOWWWWWWWif i ever get drafted into a war, i want those chaplain lines belted the fuck out on a loudspeaker
>>738058713>if
>>738058613>based on the perceived threat of an [internal] enemy>perceivedThere ARE enemies in just about every country on earth. Internationalists and squatters of foreign origin. I cannot think of a single country that isn't in desperate need of violently cleaning house.
>>738025049Look! It changes as i play! Shall I play the music here then?
>>738058751brb buying loudspeakers
>>738058754What does internationalist mean to you?
I'm sad that the only dark eldar representation in DOW we'll ever get is the old designs.Watch 1-3 contrarians say old deldar design was superior/soulful whatever
>>738054265I mean there are thousands of agri-worlds, surely not all of them forces their subjects to work under toxic pesticide clouds until they become fertilizer themselves.
>>738059742The ones controlled by the Admech most definitely do, given their stance on the superiority of steel over flesh.
>>738059742That's the point of a setting like this though, before everyone started fellating BL's garbage novels, you could just use it as scaffolding for your own lore.Run an Imperial Guard army and say they came from an agriworld that's literally just Stardew Valley, it's all idyllic and beautiful and the tithe is just one ton of radishes per year, and it's fine.
>>738059882That would require people to actually do that kind of thing than just latch onto whatever the named characters were doing like their fucking super heroes or some shit. Given the current state of GW, that's highly unlikely.
>>738020603Nah, "SHATTER THEIR SKIES" is already the best line in RTS games, but every time I co-op with a friend in any RTS and use them as a meatshield I make sure to tell them that if they will not serve in combat then they will serve on the firing line.
>>738022148>Hey don't be a tard and scream "nigger" or "hail hitler" okay?>Somehow this is a controversial optionI don't see how you guys DON'T deserve to have everything you love taken away if you can't behave like a normal person
Here are the WH games I personally played>Spehss Mahreen 1 and 2>Dawn of War 1 and 2>Space Hulk Ascension>Space Hulk Deathwing>Necromunda Hired Gun>Total Warhammer>Inquisitor Martyr>MechanicusAm I missing any bangers? Already got Mark of Chaos on my wishlist now that it was added to SteamOh and I'll get around to playing RT sometime after I get around to playing Pathfinder first
>>738026039Always sucked that he loses his campaign upgrades when he becomes a demon prince. Most notably stealth detection. Very inconvenient.I always leave the ascension till the final stronghold siege.
>>738059936Did you just say more primarchslop? I just ordered twenty more Hours Heresy novels to be published this year alone.
>>738060065who are you quoting, pseud?
>>738060085Darktide fixed its crafting system, go play it, there's no other PvE shooter like it that mixes fast paced melee and gunslinging
>>738060065Neither of your retarded examples happened. GW threw a bitchfit when some Spanish autist came to a tournament in Fascist party regalia and nobody wanted to play against him. So reddit, as it often does, harassed the fuck out of the companies social media accounts and they made that response....when they literally didn't need to do anything, even acknowledge that it happened. That's what happens when actual politically obsessed retards bully a company to make a stand on a topic that has nothing to do with the product they sell.
>>738060191Oh right I did pick up Vermintide 2 when it was free. Is that a reasonable approximation so I can check whether I like the gameplay?
>>738060219Vermintide has better characters, maps, and vibesDarktide has better shooting
>>738060196>Company says that you shouldn't be a tard because one showed up dressed like a nazi>Anon finds it controversial that they decided to take the safest, most cookie cutter stand because ???
>>738060196>cant even beat some autist in a childrens gamewhy are leftists so gay and pretentious
>>738060294Because they didn't need to say anything at all, are you retarded on purpose or by birth?
>>738060294>moving the goalpost alreadylurk 10 more years before posting mouthbreather
>>738060357>Because they didn't need to say anything at allYou don't know anything about public relations, do you?
>>738060410Remind me how well Ex Voto sold when it said it was going to be extra gay just to spite the chuds went. Did it go well when they posted that on social media?
>>738060410>ignore it - it goes away because it's a non issue>address it - pander to people wo wouldn't buy anyway, alienate people who do (what does "we will continue to diversify characters" have to do with the spanish guy anyway)HUGE winEDIT: thank you for the gold kind stranger
>Prosper... as Tau shall>XV22 battlesuit, ready>None can stand before the Greater Good>Shas'O, ready to take command>The Cadre will crush them>We act as one, lest we perish alone>Fire ALL GUNS>Harbinger ready for action>The technology of Tau, makes us strong>Where do you need firepower?>Where do you need the Elite?>Mark a target, and we will wipe it out>All missiles, AWAY>The fist of Mont'ka is hereTau has plenty memorable quotes. Honestly can't remember anything from Soulstorm, it felt like a cheap knockoff, I don't even acknowledge it existing.
>>738060495They're saying they will diversify because it leads to a grim and dark future
>>738059962For me, it's >Let's see them fight ALL of us!
>>738059793Admech worlds are a whole separate can of tomatoesThose guys are weird
>>738060065>>Hey don't be a tard and scream "nigger" or "hail hitler" okay?Where did this happen?
>>738060085You might like battlefleet gothic armada 1 or 2 if you like spaceship RTS
>>738060528As IG, I always defeat the Tau stronghold by turtling and sending two assassins to sneak up and blow the Ethereal's brains out
>>738042090>A farm world can be* keptThere are plenty of agri worlds that use tractors, garden worlds where the native fishing villages use hoverboards and are well aware of the space port they ship their produce to.The entire point of the imperium's HRE style of "empire" is that its feudal and every planet actually just follows its own rules so long as they pay their tithes and pay at least lip service to the imperial creed.Agri-worlds especially can range from bronze age farming practice to hyper industrialized stacks of environmental nightmare. Any world that is kept primitive is usually done so for the sake of creating stronger warriors to recruit for guard regiments or astartes chapters and sometimes done so for the sake of control when just a bit out of the way from main imperial influence.
>>738062273It's almost how a real life sublight interestellar empire would be, with slow travel between stars. Obviously the imperium has FTL but a much smaller empire of a few dozen close stars would work in a similar way
>>738062640The problem is that the Imperium's FTL travel is unreliable and dangerous, which affects its power projection and influence.
>tau have no memorable quotes>ctrl+F 0 results>the patient hunter gets the prey?????????
Relic had a falling out with the studio that made those voices sadly.
>>738042165Chaos are the existential good guys who pursue immortality (hylics die in-setting just like IRL)The Imperium does not treat any single individual inside it as anything more than a tool purely for survival, no different than cockroaches (the False Emperor is not an individual, he is a cohort of Greeks pretending to be one that wanted to enslave humanity's collective psyche - ergo the "Atheism")
>>738027430Chaos are the bad guys, the imperial guard needs more bodies for the meat grinder, and the salamanders are wearing involuntary blackface
>>738063265https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=List_of_Daemon_Princes&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobileHere is a list of known, self identified noble Space Marines who went from being expendable peasants in the Imperium, to becoming landed Nobility, with a good health plan (Immortality), freedom of religion and their own untaxed homes. Just from anonymous Warp-surveys, we can identify that over 2% of Chaos Space Marines have achieved princedom. Not to mentioned the increasing access to high quality education facilities for future generations!
>>738035463Leandros becomes a custodes and Titus becomes a primarchChaos is the surprise enemy againTzeentch QTE final battle
>>738062936They got Steve Blum back for Cyrus, surely they can contract Scott McNeil or the Dobson brothers again.
>>738020353>AUN RO YR>NOBLE ETHEREAL >OH WE HAVE LOST YOU, WE HAVE LOST ALL
>>738020525Pariahs had quotes in campaign
>>738063517>that over 2% of Chaos Space Marines have achieved princedomhow many total chaos followers have "achieved" spawndom?
>>738035463Titus falls to chaos after some mindfuckery a couple hours in and we finally get a chaos sm game.You do obscure missions for tzeentch that only start to make sense during the final mission
>>738062273My statement was basically saying how things are extremely varied in the human empire vs other alien groups which have a more homogenous living stanbard among their worlds. Two Tau worlds are going to be similar in how they are run versus two human worlds.
>>738020603I WILL SHATTER THEIR SOULSTHE TRUE POWER HAS ARRIVED
>>738032929LOVE CAN BLOOM
What killed 40k? The fandom just kinda fizzled out. I can understand old fans moving on, being busy or dying, but the steady influx of new fans should ensure continuous activity, right?
>>738064479Shut up, Sindri.
>>738064090While the educational benefits provided to our Chaos Space Marines have led to an increase in upper and middle class wealth and quality of life, our health care plans still provide opportunities to those who do not follow our plan but are still interested. Chaos Spawndom is our top of the line health-care-and-euthanasia plan rolled into one, for people who are afraid of death yet still don't comprehend the paradox of justifying mortal life, we simply mutate them to help them move to a better environment!We have had many callers from the Imperium praying for help, who in turn realized how silly it is to be afraid of death in the 40k setting when all human souls eventually end up in the warp anyway! Upon realizing that dying for the Emperor has less benefits than dying for Chaos, most people are quick to phone us!In fact, we have so many people from the Imperium that by some estimates the amount of Chaos Worshippers in the Imperium may outnumber those following the Imperial truth! You know what they say, when on your death bed, your second to last words praise the Emperor, but your last ones are a prayer to Slaanesh!
>>738064289Honestly they should do a split campaign at this point, one side following Titus (or a new guy since Titus is busy defending the entire Ultramar system) and another following an aspiring Chaos Marine who plots to usurp his Chaos Lord, then becoming Titus' main rival. You can then choose which character to play in the final boss fight against the other, which will affect the ending.
>>738064559DEI-ficitation and greed
>>738062936Did that studio work for anyone else (besides the RTS fantasy Chaos game?)Its very funny to hear Dawn of War voice actors for Chaos/Imperium often times on the opposite faction (the DoW2 Chaos Sorcerer is an Empire Hero)https://youtu.be/IyPEoNoFvSE?t=325
>>738064564> LOOK. RHIIIINOES. RHINOES!?!?OUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAL BAWKSES, THE COWARDS, THE FOOLS.> WE....... WE SHALL TAKE AWAY THEIR METAL BAWKSES.
>>738062017based I tried that recently after being high on reading assassinorum kingmaker
>>738064479>>738064564>>738064764Scott McNeil was always so great, though for some reason made his Chaos commander a silly SATAM cartoon villain like Shredder from the OG TMNT cartoon. This is especially true when you defeat their stronghold and he constantly gets whiny and starts making sad puppy noises as you destroy it.
>>738020603I AM THE END OF GAYS
>>738064548assassin temples really are very metal gear pilled when I think about it
>>738064559it's more popular than ever? what?
>>738020525Unification Necron units had lines and it's like what they should've been right from the beginning.
>>738064930I hate this shit. This "N-no, What are you doing?! I'll be back next tiiime!" fucking stop doing this, it's like they have one track of how to write which is pompous villain has to be become humiliated and become a floundering retard when you defeat them for it to be satisfying. No, have them keep their dignity and make no proclamations of returning and it feels even more like you defeated a worthy foe.
>>738065146>UnificationStop playing garbage mods
>>738060085Warhammer: Gladius:Relics of War was about the closest you could get if you wanted a 40k strategy game with the sheer amount of playable races like DoW1 had. It's a wargame using a lot of basic 4X mechanics but because the goal is to be the last faction standing or complete your racial questline first, you do a lot of fighting. Frankly the whole game is geared towards fighting, researching new units to fight with, upgrades to make them more effective at fighting, etc. etc. I like it, but the loyalty spiral can happen very quickly if you try to build more than 3 cities on the base difficulty. Increasing difficulty just gives the AI more loyalty, which means they'll pump out more cities and those cities will be more productive, but their general AI is still the same. Playable factions for it include:Space MarinesImperial GuardOrksNecronsChaos Space MarinesTauEldarDark EldarAdeptus MechanicusSisters of BattleTyranids
>>738065094Try playing a round of 40k somewhere, it's fucking dead.
>>738065334I can't quite imagine what you mean by it being a wargame but also 4X mechanics. I know games like Shadow Empire but this one just looks like a Civ to me. Could you elaborate on that?To be clear, I put it on my wishlist but would still like some further explanation
>>738064741>Good taste in music>Idea of music is LOUD NOISES>Is offended by silence>Is offended by the concept of silence
>>738065334>GladiusDevs new game is better. Hope they'll make Gladius 2 in the future.
>>738058696With random, but expected bouts of violence. And vanning dissidents into blacksites before their train of thought beehives popular.
>>738065094It's popular as a setting but not as an army man game
>>738065463I mean in that usually 4X games have the possibility of other win conditions besides the "destroy all other civs" one. In Gladius, it's the primary way you will win any match at all, because there is no diplomacy mechanic in the game, the whole game is built around the eXterminate of the 4 X's.
>>738065489ZEPHON?All I heard it's Gladius with tacked on, but not needed diplomacy system. But since it's not 40k with all those expansions it simply has less content and samey boring factions.
>>738065653>>738065428shame, I have this cope that since people are currently getting more and more adverse to social media and digital existence in general and are trying to recreate create third spaces, it will eventually trickle down to include a gaming store resurgence
>>738066050Its got more going on strategically
>>738065334Remember to creamapi or otherwise pirate the DLC, because there's so much of it
>>738035463>Space Marine 3Make fighting chaos marines an actual challenge. These are your peers. A squad of them dropping down and going tactical on your ass should be an oh shit moment where you're diving to cover as one of them brings your hp down 30% with each bolter shot and the melee one is forcing you to parry hard sequences as you're trying to maneuver him behind a pillar to avoid the ranged fire from his friend.
>>738065463He means that he doesn't know what 4X means and that it's just Civ V but without 90% of the game and constantly in war without making it any more engaging than it was in Civ (retarded AI included)
>>738064559As the other anon said, the fandom is bigger than ever for better or for worseIf you mean what killed tabletop, then simply the fact that they moved from casual appeal of your dudes into hard competitive without making the rules work first, so every edition becomes more and more painful to play with the ever growing powercreep and releases that are clearly made for the sheer purpose of P2W rather than any notion of balancing. /tg/cucks will cope that tabletop is le primary medium but truth is if you could count the actual tabletop players separately from people that just buy minis it would be completely mogged by vidya and books
>>738066524>without 90% of the gameif you think picking culture/civics and microing rock bands is 90% of the game then youre playing civ wrong
>>738020353>SistersBecause adding a Missionary to every SoB squad was absolutely mandatory to make them somehwat less dogshit, and the turbocringe singing of said Missionary was something everyone is trying to forget.Samuel L. Jackson's voice echoing behind the Living Saint's was somewhat memorable tho.
>4XBoredom the genre
>>738066982>research massively dumbed down into just new units or unit upgrades>no diplomacy>no trading>no gold or faith>no city states>no culture>no great people>no navalLITERALLY the only thing you do in the game is shit out your swordsmen/archer equivalent and watch as the enemy city healthbar slowly depletes. This was already boring as fuck in Civ games and making an entire game around it without improving or expanding the war mechancis in any way is mindbogglingly retardedBeyond Earth was a more ambitious Civ V clone than Gladius is and that was a glorified conversion mod, a bad one at that
>>738021617Oh yes.>Broadside artillery, ready to serve!>Where do you need firepower?>I am ready to join the Cadre, commander!
>>738065250It's really the first time they did that with a Chaos lord in the DoW games. First two acted like violent psychos and Eliphas was a cold and calculated warrior bringing the word of Chaos. Soul Storm in general was a mess. Same game that gave us "SPESS MEHRENS!"
This reminds me that I still have my DVDs for DoW 1, Winter Assault and Dark Crusade and recently even played two Dark Crusade campaigns (SM and Tau - somehow Tau feel really weak in comparison, especially in vehicles department - unless I go Montka with Hammerheads, I literally have no use for vehicles, compared to what other factions can field, but it also means no range/damage/hp upgrade for Fire Warriors, in game where large groups always tend to spread out absurdly).Im really starving for good RTS experience.
>>738066736This. I don't play tabletop anymore because GW is in a constant struggle of trying to murder yourdudes because it's easier for the company, and trying to promote them because that's why a huge fucking chunk of their consumers collect plastic army men. Even in the new Armageddon box, all the Boyz get the same loadout, so your customization means nothing. At the same time, they fixed the Combi-weapons, because everyone yelled at them about how retarded that was. I just want customization to matter on TT, but as long as they sideline that shit to alternative rulesets, it's a nightmare to play pickup games, and you need to find a dedicated group of players instead.
>>738067086Emperoor deliver UusS
>>738067438>Eliphas was a cold and calculated warrior bringing the word of ChaosUntil he loses and goes>nooo I don't want to go back to murderfuck containment of evil torment, noooooooohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxl1q7Lb3g8
>>738021617him holding the gun looks really cool in this art but looks ridiculous in tabletop, they should have stuck with the shoulder-mounted, wrist-mounted aesthetic, made them unique too. At least don't make the gun this fucking stupidly huge.
>>738035463Tau for the xenos enemies, kroot as their fodder melee. Iron Warriors for chaos enemies, named warsmith becomes Titus' rival and managed to survival. Said warsmith shits on Honsou for daemonculaba like daddy Peter Turbo.
>>738020848anon...I
Was 3 really THAT bad?And why?
>>738063621DoW4 is not handled by Relic.
>>738067923I mean the left hand isn't even holding the gun there, that was poorly magnetized
>>738067921>used to hold up basilika spice container when my cooking while quoting the basilica of torment line to my lil brothen he became absorbed by his gf and now visits the family twice a year and treats everyone as a collective to be ignored instead of treating me like an individual..he was a good friend.
>>738068170Appealed to none of the strengths of the old games. Tried to be something literally no one asked for. Didn't even do that thing well.
>>738068203fair, this still looks really dumb though kek
>>738067278>don't meaningfully interact with half of those on a given game>a quarter are one and done stat increases with objective correct picks>the remainder are just outright time wasters that do nothing for a victory and just make late game a slog of useless non-decisions90% of civ is building a city and sending units out to stomp out enemy cities so you can take the resources, not picking +1 culture and +1 production in a menu
>>738035463Instead of making another loyalist game, make one in style of old God of War and play a Chaos Aspiring Champion.Imagine the mutations tree.
>>738068304>I don't interact with these so no one does>needing to metafag in fucking civ>time waste that does nothing and make the game a slog of non-decisionsThat just describes 1UPT combat where you have to move 40 units per turn individually, which is what you do all the fucking time in Gladiusbuilding a city and sending units to stomp out other cities is maybe 25% of civ because I tend to avoid it as much as I can due to how shit it is
>>738068301That looks great though. I like big dudes with big guns. My main gripe with Prinaris is that Marines apparently aren't allowed to have heavy guns. At least not until we got heavy bolters back with the Armageddon releases
>>738068301>>738067923the dow-looking ones look dumb as well. Learning of Tau through DoW and thinking it's the coolest thing you've ever seen and then finding out their tabletop counterparts look like short-legged squats with ridiculously oversized weapons on them was one of the reasons I didn't get into tabletop, though I did buy a shas'o commander and painted it as a kid and that guy looked pretty cool iirc.
>>738035828>>73803584110,000 year-old reply, but when Dark Crusade released, the Tau had next door to no presence in the Warp and had no concept of Chaos. When Eliphas is using telepathy, the Tau don't understand that it's not telecommunication. They're unintentionally disrespecting him, which is what makes the encounter so cool.Anecdotally, Eliphas freaking out once he realizes that Necrons honest-to-Tzeentch do NOT have souls reflects just how ignorant each faction can be to each other, and highlights how phenomenal the game's writing is. Extending this line of thought is Taldeer calling the Tau "naive children" because the Tau are the youngest race and have no idea just how badly the galaxy has been fucked up at least three times.
>>738029082Only if you believe that Chaos are the good guys.
>>738068450I think the size of that gun and how short he is just doesn't work for me and makes it feel very mecha anime in a bad way. If he had some stature and they shortened the gun a bit it'd look perfect, like the way the art's camera angle tricks you into thinking it's shortened>no primaris heavy gunsStrange. I just want them to scale up all models and then I might be tempted to buy some again. Unfortunately they shot themselves in the foot by making primaris true scale, means everyone has to become primaris for that to happen (which I honestly would like, just get it over with, realize it was a dumb lore thing to do and just make them irrelevant by giving everyone the upgrade through Kal finding out a harmless way to do it or something)
>>738068721That's a cool lore reason, but tau commander not getting to be sassy is too great a loss so I will remain believing that was no psychic message.
>>738068902>mecha anime in a bad wayNo such thing, it's mecha anime which is why it's good
>>738067921Compare this to Soulstorm guy and it's like watching and adult and child dealing with failure.
>>738069007You are entitled to your feelings and emotions, but on the outside looking in, you are severely emotionally stunted if you don't understand how Eliphas "the Showboat and" the Inheritor being totally ignored while the Tau push Chaos off the planet is the ultimate backhand.
>>738069028tau when done right just straddles the line between anime and western aesthetic sensibiltiies in a way that I can't explain and that I am sad to see cross fully into full weeb any time on the occasions that it does
>>738068570New tau kits are gorgeous if you haven't seen them. Farsight is a work of art
>>738069007I love the banter between the Tau General and Space Marine Commander>Tau "Do the lives of your men mean nothing to you? Are you that mad?">SM "Do the lives of your men mean that much to you? Are you that weak?"
>>738069174Soulstorm was shit but to play the devil's advocate Carron is the only chaos lord that gets the opportunity to be a bitch about losing.Bale dies 5 seconds after being backstabbed so he only has time to say SINDRI one last time, Sindri won, Crull gets killed offscreen 1v1'ing Gorgutz (I don't remember what happens to him in the imperial campaign) and Eliphas gets killed by Daemon Prince right as he starts to cry before it can become more patheticWhat I'm saying is that Chaos needs to adopt Bushido honor code so that you have a buddy ready to decapitate you before you embarrass yourself with a temper tantrum
>Tau battlesuits>With exception of Riptide, a literal paper mache suits that yo average bolter can piercelol maybe Fire Caste should hit the fucking gym if they want to carry better/more guns.
>>738069274The Blood Ravens eliminated the Word Bearers off Kronus thoughbeit
>>738069028>mecha anime>goodThe whole genre is for manchildren just like the Tau are. You should watch better anime than Gundam.
IT IS AS THOUGH A THOUSAND MOUTHS CRY OUT IN PAINbut said by the Possessed Marine Squad
>>738069398>them legsyes, now we're fucking talking
>>738069815>reddit gate faggot talking about "better anime"lmao
WE NEED A NEW DRIVERTHIS ONE IS D E A D
>>738069815You're in a 40k thread
>>738069752It's why I like ~crisis suit size, it's only a bit taller than a dude, so it feels appropriate to have running around being mobile and roughly being the same size of a target, even if they're kind of fragile despite the armor. When you get to riptide levels it's like, sure cool to have a big mech in a way, but not quite my tempo. If bigger mech means bigger better ion shields though then you can excuse it that way, like imperium does with titans.
>>738069847Does SG have its entire justification for its existence revolve around muh robot? No it's an actual story with a plot and characters that exist for more than just servicing some uncslop 70s machine aesthetic.
>>738069984SG has no justification for it's existance, it's pure slop
>>738069984sir you're in a warhammer thread, it's all about cool models fighting each other
>>738070215That's different from specifically glorifying the mechashit models which are manchildren attractors, and especially different from being a Gundumb fag.
>>738069737Eliphas doesn't cry as much when he jobs again in Chaos Rising and Retribution
>>738069969The fact that the Riptide is only about 5.5m (18ft) tall in lore still tickles my pickle. If it's not at LEAST 18.5m (~60ft) tall, what's the fucking point??
>>738070306How was he alive? Dude gets splattered into the ground by the daemon prince.
>>738069663so fucking good, this game is like the perfect example that you can do so much with so little writing if it's good and you understand your source material
>>738070361Tau suits are made for mobility and carrying big, fuck off ordnance. No reason for them to be massive.
>>738021139What's that a list of?
>>738070382Chaos gods tend to revive the shitter they enjoy shitting on.
>>738070382Warpfuckery and soul bartering, Davian Thule even mentions seeing Eliphas "torn to shreds" on Kronus when they encounter him again as Araghast's lackey in Chaos Rising. In Retribution, it's revealed he bartered with Abaddon in the Chaos scenario, but in the canon Blood Ravens scenario, Diomedes kills him in the prologue mission.
>>738070469The bigger you are the more mount space for big, fuck off ordnance you get
>>738070469>No reason for them to be massive.
>no ganic,full warp
>>738069815>steins;gay poster>shit opinionEvery time.
>>738070469The Tau eventually conceded that the Imperium had a point with oversized compensator weapons.
>>738069893If a 40k tertiary nigger had any ability to self reflect, he wouldnt be a tertiary wikinigger who doesnt even know what a fucking codex is.
>>738070823It ain't that big.
>>738071006That's why they went bigger
>>738070992We already estabilished tabletop fags are quaternaries in this thread and all previous ones
>>738020773If it's not cringe it doesn't work
>>738071109Stage 5
Actually, why Tau have such limited access to battlesuits in Dark Crusade and Soulstorm? Broadside are one unit, Crisis suits are one unit and limited to 3 and that's it. Plus, outside of Hammerhead (limited to 2 and one upgrade path), they only have surprisingly weak Devilfish, Drone squad (that makes little use), Drone Carrier (that require manually pressing "create drone" button each time unless I'm missing something) and Skyray that somehow cannot hit anything (I watched their rockets fly by targets all the time, failing to hit anything at all) and blocks itself on every other unit or terrain piece. They simply lack good units and feel very weak.What I'm missing here?
>>738038537i want to fuck a stinky cultist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a61diqy_v-o
>>738071379That Tau's roster wasn't much at that point.
>>738071280That's your problem faggot, not mineMaybe if your game wasn't complete dogshit people wouldn't stick to the "secondary" media
>>738071461>loses to some dudes in t-shirts with grenade launchers
>Good campaigns:Chaos RisingDawn of WarWinter Assault>Mid campaignsDawn of War 2Dark Crusade>Bad campaignsRetributionSoulstormDawn of War 3
>>738069819these are literally chicken legs tho lmao
>>738071692Isn't Soulstorm the same as Dark Crusade?
>>738071716it's his black rectangle face looking like a duck beak that make the legs feel so very...chicken
>>738071745The new factions suck, the new units suck, the new stronghold missions suck, the new map sucks and the banter is worse
>>738071745The campaign format change to multiple planets and warp points wasn't well handled and the AI can't cope, Also people resent the lack of persistent base building, but hey, that's what Garrisons are for.
>>738020353Sisters and Delves are unmemorable in general because SS sucks so everyone kept playing DC instead. Tau quotes are unmemorable because they're too serious and all they go on about is the greater good.
>>738068570DoW XV-88 is a kitbash
>>738071745Similar mechanically, but the board is disjointed between several planets and webway gates so you won't ever see any of your opponents do anything funky other than the occasional run where they do actually eliminate their nearest rival. The map in any given region also resets entirely, so outside of inventing into garrisons you'll have to rebuild almost from scratch every time you play on it, which can slow the game down considerably.The strongholds are all over the place in overall quality and there's no banter, with very few commanders actually acknowledging the army you chosen in dialogue. Plus the bulk of SS maps are 6-8 player ones that are a bit oversized for the job.
>>738031562why do chinamen version of games all have shitty fonts? is it really their small eyes?
>>738071978very interesting, never knew, the forge world one does look so much cooler though so not surprised they combined the two, the helmet and the hunch with a broad stance makes it really feel like a heavier unit
>>738072169Forge World in general was very in touch with making great 40k designs, much more than GW is
>>738072017>Plus the bulk of SS maps are 6-8 player ones that are a bit oversized for the jobEach of the regular map objectives are also set to Annihilate which means you have to search the entire map for that one goddamn LP hiding in the corner
>>738072017>>738073908They really should have done something to make playing on the maps more interesting. A friendly AI building their own base would have been an obvious choice, the enemy often has multiple bases of their won already.
>>738073908Eldar are the reason I play Destroy HQ and not Annihilate.
replaying winter assault right nowit's not as good as I remembered
>>738074808Winter Assault is only good because of Sternn and good mods (like Redux) make sure to use him as a replacer.
>>738074485Elaborate. Also what mod is that?
>>738075132https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Dawn_of_Eldarhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/eranthis-project
>>738075256>lore links and screencap and mod linkwhy thank youAh. Only a problem for multiplayer then. Even if annihilate gets annoying sp too, but the ai at least won't delierately hide gates in a corner or something
>>738075256is there a single piece of 40k media of any type where eldar (and eldar fans) aren't the most infuriating obnoxious assholes?
>>738075479Might as well ask if there's a single piece of media where elves and their fans aren't obnoxious faggotsThe answer is yes, porn games. Outside of that no, zero redeeming qualities
>>738020603100% true.>BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!>I HAVE TOME TO LEAD YOU!>SANITY IS FOR THE WEAK!>WE WILL DELIVER PURE EVIL INTO THE HEART OF BATTLE!>AFTER 1000 BATTLES, ONE ONLY SEES DEATH!They were fun as fuck. Somehow the most evil faction is also the most self-aware one in the game, probably why they always seem to be having so much fun.
>>738075472For my skirmishes it will always be Destroy HQ, Control Area, Strategic, and Economic. If you lose to a rush, you deserve it. If you misplay your tactics and get outmaneuvered by a CP/SP loss, you deserve it. If you can't apply enough pressure to stop the enemy from amassing resources and lose to them, then you deserve it.Simple ass.
>>738075256It even happens in singleplayer. Dark Crusade is downright miserable if you let the Eldar pick up any kind of steam because knocking out their main base doesn't mean they don't have production elsewhere. You blitz them or you're in for hours of securing an entire fucking map, all the while they'll spam aspect warriors and wraithlords at your base.
>>738075795For me, it's when those faggot space elves rush me with a horde of banshees and a clown when I'm still capping up near my base. Basically impossible on some factions without a decked out commander and some good honor guard.
>>738075991Demes Northlands...
>I COME TO DANCE>THE>DANCE>OF>DEATH
>>738070471Number of games played in 2025 of each faction that logged it in the official GW app. In other words, actual tabletop popularity.
>>738077008AND I DANCEDAND I PRANCEDAND I SANG WITH THEMALL HAD DEATH IN THEIR EYES
>>738028583>it is though and that's the appeal, if you can't u-hey retard cocksucking faggot, why did you ignore the rest of his message?>while simultaneously having the Imperium agree with their progressive positions.trannies are mentally ill pedophiles and they deserve to be treated like the pathetic freaks they are in public
>>738071692Retribution deserves to go up a tier solely because of the Ork campaign.
>>738078014...I like ya hat by the way.
>>738058613>You cannot have "peaceful fascism".Yes you can, your definition is just inadequate and retarded. Fascism is ideological hegemony between the public, private and religious sectors. Elements of society that should always be adversarial and competing, not working together in concert to exploit you. In reality you've been living under fascism for longer than you've even been alive if you're in any five eyes nation, so its expected you wouldn't know what the fuck it is even when its right in front of you.
>>738077175>most popular faction has less games played in an entire year than a single video game has in one afternoon>/tg/fags will claim their medium is the primary onelmao
>>738078014Gitfinda ta panzee!
>>738020848>>>/reddit/
