Its time to admit that AC1 is one of the best games of all time
no it isnt. also kys
You retards really need to learn that the dogshit techdemo you played when you were 12 was just that
I played it for a few hours and got bored. I have no desire to give it another try.
>>738027794you didnt play it right
>>738028095That's great, not reinstalling this boring trash.
It's all right
Worthless, degenerate, immoral POS.
it's okclimbing gimmick was new at the timemedieval middle east setting was immersive and mostly new at the timeyou just killed people, it wasn't the bloated monstrosity that AC is todayparts outside the animus were gay and lame
AC2 was just way better
it's hard to value something looking back especially if you aren't aware of how novel the ideas and how it presented them were at the time. For example most modern gamers can't fathom why Bethesda are as popular as they are in the current day because the systems they introduced have been re-hashed a hundred times over but when they were initially presented they were new and immersive.
>>738027434I still remember when my brother's friend just bought an xbox 360 and Assassin's creed 1 on release day and came over to our house to show the game to us and me and my dad were blown the fuck away by the graphics. We never saw a game with graphics this insane. On a CRT tv mind you. My dad was shocked by the clouds' shadows on the ground
>>738027434I've said before, this game is pure cancer, repetitive grind the same 3 mission like 30 times for 16 hours shit..but for some reason, it really has something in it that is hard to explainIt's such a strange experimental game, none of the sequels has the same charm to it.
>>738027434I remember when this came out the graphics were so insane I thought about how intense the experience was for years, the only other time I've been blown away like that was when I first saw Red Dead Redemption 1.
>>738027434The ONLY decent game the series has ever produced was AC2. Everything else is pure utter Ubislop
I am playing Unity right now and it's not nearly as bad as everyone said it was. In fact Arno is just French Ezio, whom everyone loved. What gives?
>>738031952ac2 took away all the interesting stuff about ac1 like the morally ambiguous plotline/antagonists, gathering info to plan your assassination, and actually feeling satisfaction when your plan works. sure some of those concepts could have been executed much better, but the core was there.then in ac2 they just turn you into a mass murder killing machine with a marvel villain as the bad guy. any assassinations are just set pieces and nothing you do matters
>>738031952AC2 is what killed the franchise
>>738031952AC2 was where the franchise became "gamified" for better and for worse.
>>738032337That would be AC3
>>738032503at least ac3 was something new instead of a rerelease of ac2 like brotherhood and revelations
>>738027434I think there's a reasonable argument that AC is among the most well-written games and it's a way better adventure game than any other game in the series, but it's too undercooked. An enhanced version with some bug fixes, better audio, and some changes to the missions would be enough to make it one the best games ever though, in my opinion.
>>738027434Yes, Asheron's Call 1 was a masterpiece
It has a cool aesthetic and setting. Otherwise I don't particularly care for it.
>>738032616AC3 literally killed off any interest into the series anyone playing at the time had. Worse parkour, worse combat, worse story, and one of the most disappointing endings in media history, it was a shitshow. There's a reason why AC4 was a pirate game; it was a soft reboot attempt to steer away from the failings of the last game.
>>738027434Kill yourself, faggot. It was one of the first fully woke games, made years before it became the norm. It even came with a gay disclaimer.
>>738027434most games that start a franchise are
>>738032503WrongAC2 is when they started moving towards the dumb GTA clone style of game.No more investigations, no more focus on the assassinations, Ezio is just an errand boy who sometimes gets to stab someoneThe chases dont even have music anymore, nothingEzio isnt an assassin, he's fucking batman, singlehandedly turning entire cities around by himself
>>738031705game is just renaissance open world hitman x the matrixits pretty cool. but also pretty boring in execution. it exists as a relic of a time where games were spaces to get lost in slowly instead of dopamine dispensing machines. a game like it could not exist today due to the fact virtual worlds lost their sense of space as perceived by the novelty and modern audiences don't really have the mindspace or environment to get lost fucking around like a kid would on super mario sunshine or ac1
>Altair is the only assassin who canonically never gets hitWhat a badass.
>>738027434It's a tech demo more than it is an actual game like a lot of fancy "games" from that period.
>>738033031>AC2 is when they started moving towards the dumb GTA clone style of game.You have no clear what you're talking about>No more investigations, no more focus on the assassinations, Ezio is just an errand boy who sometimes gets to stab someoneTrue but it's hard to argue this was core to AC when the first game barely had any depth into the mission structure. You were still being guardrailed into doing everything while AC2 at least has more variety in what you're doing and the way you do it.>The chases dont even have music anymore, nothingHuh? You played the remasters or something? The original release had chase music>Ezio isnt an assassin, he's fucking batman, singlehandedly turning entire cities around by himselfThe first game has you quite literally take out the entire middle eastern templar order and gain the apple, can't get more capeshit then that
>>738032279>gathering info to plan your assassinationIt was doing the same 3 or 4 boring missions that were ultimately pointless when you weren't really penalized for charging in like a retard and stabbing.
>>738032139Everyone hated the monetization, RPG-ization, changes to the combat.They focused on the wrong things, unironically Syndicate is a better "modern" attempt at refreshing the formula.
>>738033529No I replayed the entire series recently. Thats the first thing I've noticed in 2. even during the ''big'' assassinations, you dont have chase music and its over in like 10 seconds.The Asssassination in 1 felt like an entire event. The entire town shuts up as you travel to the destination, the music changes, after you kill the target, the chase triggers, the music hits, the entire town is on alert even if you do escape the guards initialy. The bells ringingAC2 and onward this was all thrown out. >The first game has you quite literally take out the entire middle eastern templar order and gain the apple, can't get more capeshit then thatYou dont fucking renovate the entirety of Rome for example. Ah yes, Assassins Creed brotherhood, where you renovate more sewer exist and aqueducts than you actually do assassinations
>>738033031Fucking this.>AC1: eavesdrop on a conversation to hear about a secret route in the area where your target will be, then pickpocket the map that shows where all enemies will be along the path, now let the player use their tools to navigate through to the target and if you do it right you can kill him before anyone knows you're there>AC2: oh you're having trouble getting to the target? here let's just make a flying machine for you, let's make a wristgun for you, let's have all the prostitutes in the city distract all the guards and make a linear path for Ezio to walk up and stab the guy but OH NO he pulls out a sword so you have to slowly duel him for ten health bars and then he wins in a cutscene
>>738027434It was a lot more Hitman and less GTA sandbox than AC2. AC1 was a pretty interesting and novel idea for it's time, sadly the series has turned into complete slop over time. Still have a soft spot for Brotherhood though that's slopkino.
>>738033856This is what bothered me with Ezio. It seems like everyone in the city is out to help him. Its not even a secret order anymoreThe whores help youThe mercenaries help youAn entire guild of thieves help youthey all have the knowledge of the templar assassin war too, but its somehow secret to everyone anyways.
>>738033390>AC1>Renaissance
>>738033923Every time I want to replay the first few games I remember the modern slow as shit sections, and the feeling fades.
>>738027434Asscreed isn't even a good game period.
>>738033702>Everyone hated the monetization, RPG-ization, changes to the combat.I am halfway through the game and haven't bought anything. I didn't even notice any of it really.>RPG-izationI'd say Origins started that. Unity is just a fleshed out AC2.>changes to the combatI don't see how this is a bad thing either. Enemies are more aggressive and there's more flow to it rather than you being Batman on steroids like Ezio was.I'll probably pick up Syndicate soon though to see how it is, but I don't like the setting as much.
>>738033974Not necessarily knowingly, just the top brass is made out of assassins, doubt every single whore in Firenze is a fully fledged assassin.
>betrays the templars, just to betray the assassins againwhat was her problem
>>738034132I hated Syndicate when I first played it because I was burned out on the series. Going back a few years late I enjoyed it more than I did originally and feels like a better version of what Unity was going for if a bit Bamham. IMO the best games are the ones that take place largely in one city like Brotherhood, Revelations, Syndicate and even Unity to an extent. When they try and open things up or add a bunch of cities it gets bogged down. I fucking hate Venice in AC2 so much. Not fun to travel around and the padding is ridiculous.
>>738033031AC2 might've been the start of the decline, but AC3 was indeed the death knell that killed off anything good the franchise had going for it. I remember at the time all my normie friends cursing the game like it fucked their own mothers, that's how bad it was.
>>738034308She finally realized Anarchism is retarded and Authoritarianism is the only realistic way for world peace to happen. That's another thing AC1 did differently, the Assassins and Templars have the same ultimate goal (commie utopia) but they had philosophical differences over the path to achieving it. The newer games turned the conflict into "muh freedom vs le evil nazis"
>>738034720The genius idea to take away one of the most appealing aspects of the series, I still have no idea what were they thinking.
Dudebrogamer slop. Smt nocturne was a better stealth n slash game.
>>738027434Probably not of all time, but it's easily the best out of all the other AC games.That said the game is still one of my own personal favorites. Actually if you'd held me at gunpoint and asked what my favorite game of all time was I'd probably say the first Assassin's Creed.
>>738032139The hate largely stems from the abhorrent launch which wss riddled with jank and bugs/glitches.
>>738027434It's the best AC game but compared to most other games out there it's just ok
>>738032279This.Also AC2 is where the games started to pander to the wide audiences and the game immediately treats you like a retard and handholds your ass 24/7 with constant objective text/hints/waypoints, shit's railroaded as fuck and you'll notice it immediately if you play both games back to back.
AC1 was the game that needed a remake.
>>738034308Wasn't this some unplanned thing because the voice actress demanded more money and then they killed her off in brotherhood? At least that's how I heard it back in the day.
>>738032279AC2 is the marvelslop of the franchise. It makes you a superhero who fights super villains and a one man army and everyone loves you and helps you. I enjoyed my time with it, but it hasn't aged well at all and Ezio gets overglazed.
>>738035416(You) were the anon that needed a bullet through his skull.
>>738035507Why waste a bullet shooting an empty skull?
>>738035756Hmmm fair point.
>>738027794>Jan 7, 2013I wasn't even 6 years old by then
>>738035971Get the fuck off of this website what are you, 12?
>>738035971Henlo youngfren.
>>738036084>what are you, 12?18 actually>>738036509Hi fren, whatchu playing?
I remember when Assassins Creed came out, there was a lot of hype and a big ad campaign. I would have been mid-teens.I got to play it on my cousin's 360, at the moment I knew gaming was about to become shit because I wasn't enjoying it at all, it seemed like a huge technical downgrade for action-RPGs. My cousins, who weren't very into games other than sportslop ate it up though, they thought it was the greatest of all time. I also wasn't big on Prince of Persia games on the PS2/XB and their clones which preceded AC, it was all flash and marketing but the games were as deep as puddles. Kind of vindicated, games have been shit since around then, despite being a teenage boy that played videogames I was clearly no longer the target audience
>>738034818I feel like AC1 had the best villains. Everyone was shown to be a corrupt bastard in one way or another and the Assassins weren't directly tied to any nation, Altair was killing Saracens and Europeans. I've never felt like any of the Templars after AC1 were as bad. The writing nosedived after the first game.
