It's actually over for real this time.
>>738030875this isn't a steamchart thread so you will get little to no replies, sorry anon
Marathon had short films, music videos, various character cinematics, self indulgent studio events. They spent a metric shit ton on marketing.
I wish this was a single player FPS RPG instead. I wanted to build my own Shell.
>>738030875It's been over since the free weekend
quiet marketing? they had like 5 trailers and a free weekend all in the month leading to release. it took over the PSN and steam stores the day it came out.
Total bungie death
>>738030875Marathon should've been a multimedia project like Sonic.Being just game is such a waste.
>>738030996me too, but i wish the art team was different too the "shells" are so fucking ugly
Rape Bungie
They should add a f2p mode where you can play as generic enemies. No progression, no loot, and you're not particularly strong. You just drop in and try to kill people.
chudcel grift is running dry
Just like the playercount
>glowing reviews>good gameplay>from famous developers>flopsI don't know how that happened.
idk Jeff likes it so that's good enough for me
>>738031761Multiplayer game in a already multiplayer game saturated market so one wants to leave to go play a different multiplayer game
>>738031991Who is Jeff
>>738031761>niche genre>hostile to casuals and normies>disgusting artstyle>shrouded in controversy since before release>$40 I think the biggest reason it failed though is the expectations from Bungie. People wanted either more Destiny or something of the grandeur of Halo instead they got a tranny game in a meme genre nobody cares about.I find it baffling that Sony greenlit this, I'm all for experimental shit, but this is not the studio or investment for it, Bungie should have stuck to what works and what they're good at.
>>738032172
I had a dream i bought and played this game and i legitimately dont know why. Ive been playing re7 and i really wanna buy pragmata and screamers, so im very confused. The dream was lame too, all i was doing was running around looting shit
>>738032456Sony spent unholy amounts of money, and I heard they were crazed about live-services at the time. This game might be one of the few that they couldn't write off as a business loss, at least not immediately.
>>738030875>little faith in the dying gameyou don't say?
This is your guys fault.
>>738032986I don't own any guys
>>738031761>>I don't know how that happened.>Niche genre that no one but autists really like.>Arc Raiders just came out and succeeded out of nowhere in the space just a few months prior to the people it could have potentially gotten got nabbed up by that.>Arc Raiders also has an objectively more appealing style.>Arc Raiders has a PvE focus with the PvP being optional whereas Marathon is a super sweat PvP focus.>Marathon launched with unbelievably stupid issues like people being able to steal your Battle Pass voucher you paid for.>$40 instead of F2P when games like this mandate F2P, Arc Raiders being a giant exception to the rule.>Marathon is extremely punishing to anyone who wants to play it so it's far less fun and far more stressful compared to the competition.>No singleplayer content at all when this is Bungie releasing this game and the previous games in its namesake were all singleplayer which has to be the stupidest decision they made.>Has had a controversy pretty much its entire release time in development, either from the art theft or the poor gameplay decisions.>Even as far back as their alphas everyone was telling them it wasn't that fun, asking why "Runners" couldn't run for more than two seconds, didn't have voice chat at all because they didn't want things to be "toxic", etc. They clearly begrudgingly addressed this by calling them "Shells" instead of "Runners", added in voice chat, and some other things people told them to change in internal testing.>Sony has no good word of mouth as of late with basically every live service they've done outside of Helldivers being utter garbage or appealing to no one and this is yet another expensive live service game so no one cares.>Bungie has had a horrific reputation thanks to Destiny 2 and it has only gotten worst the longer D2 has existed.It's extremely easy to see how it failed.
>>738032986But I didn't do anything?
>>738033514You committed economic terrorism.
>>738033514BLOODY BITCH BASTARD
>>738033514You won. Stop winning.
>Former Square Enix Exec>Talking about marketingHoly shit, lol. If it isn't Final Fantasy, they don't market a goddamn thing they publish. The last big marketing campaign they had for an IP that wasn't FF was fuckin' Forspoken, and that killed Luminous studios.
>>738030875I am personally responsible for this
Stop making such a big deal out of this nothing burger.Sony is NOT going to kill their golden goose, full stop.
>>738030970"little" is porportional to game budget, and this is a AAAA game. They made that shit but didn't carpetbomb the CCTV at wendys with a toy suprise for the kids mealAbove line marketing was only AAA level. But loads of other shit, like buying all the streamers out twice and giving them a tournamet.>>738031034Think AC shadows, SW outlaws or Concord level marketing.
>>738031761>glowing reviewsDoesn’t matter to casuals >good gameplayCasuals aren’t dropping madden and fortnite for this >from famous developersDoesn’t matter to casualsThe vast majority of PS owners are total casuals that don’t buy many games. Hardcore snoycucks just like easy movie games.A sweaty extraction shooter where you die in two seconds is way too extreme for them. Marathon apparently sold a similar amount on Xbox despite there being many more PlayStations out there. That shows Sony has severely overestimated the amount of diehard fans who will buy anything they shit out.
>>738030875All you had to do was buy the fucking gamebuy the fucking goypassbuy $1500 worth of microtransactions shill the game so hard another 10000 people start playing and do the sameWhy didnt you do it anon!?!? Do you hate video games??
>>738030875nah bro the chart is going up now as more blast havers populate the servers
>>738031761>good gameplayits a cookie cutter "extraction shooter"
>>738034476Jests aside, whose organs are Sony gonna sell to recoup the loss?
>>738030875marketting isn't going to do much with that sorta aesthetics, if sony wanted to make money they're bring back the senran kagura and ecchi game devs and openly have scantly clad non milf/hag girls in every advertisement
Didn't they get some fucking pop artist to make a song with a fully animated music video?
It plays like Apex Legend but more boring
>>738035154between destiny 2 and this, i'm going to be very surprised if Bungie is still around a year from now. not sure anyone's organs will amount to the $4B+ wasted on them
Rise of iron wonSiva won Destiny 2 lostMarathon lost
>>738034386One of the really confusing parts of the Marathon saga is that the game has basically no microtransactions at all. If you wanted to buy everything on the store you'd run out of things to buy really quickly. Like their only strategy to make money was hoping that for some reason there'd be a massive audience for their niche game which was fucking retarded.
>>738036017I imagine they're going to shuffle some of the members to other internal companies while a smaller crew works on D2.
>>738036113Sony has no idea what makes something a hit. They released Concord in August because they thought the characters would become breakout Halloween costumes. The people greenlighting projects couldn’t be further from the average gamer.
>>738035780Oh they did more than that but they didn't buy airtime. THe pop arrtist they bought were son Lux, and they also commissioned oscar winner Alberto Mielgo to make a promo video. Note that "quiet" doesn't meah cheap.
>>738036037I still replay Destiny 1 sometimes, and I always see tons of players online tooSpent like an hour with Destiny 2 and noped out. One look at Marathoon makes me not want to play. D1 still slaps though.
>>738031034That was all preplanned for the launch period. I think the OP's article is talking more about how it's been a marketing ghost town once Sony started seeing the bad numbers.And what was the last official Bungie marketing post about Marathon? Is it still the cringey 'we have 400k Discord users' one?
>>738036334Christ man. I even LIKE the game but the sheer amount of incompetence around it is ridiculous. I'm basically playing it with the understanding that it'll be dead in two seasons and I'm just here until it shuts down.
>>738036113it's been implied that Sony basically forced them to launch back in March to meet fiscal year deadlines, which I'm fine with because these incompetent retards were taking way too long to develop such a barebones shit game, so they might not have had that much store content available to sell.
>>738036356Hell yeah brotha I wish I had my xbox id probably grind some challenge of elders or do the nightfall
>>738031761>glowing reviewsMostly astroturfed. Remember that Bungie asked everyone in the official Marathon Discord to leave a Steam review. Those numbers got pumped up unnaturally. And the journalist clique were always going to suck bungie's dick and gave the game ridiculous 9/10s.>good gameplayIt's Destiny 2 PVP with extraction on the end and a lower TTK. It didn't do anything new, really.>from famous developersBungie apparently wasted all of their good will by shitting on Destiny 2 fans for the last few years. I don't think their name means anything except to people who are old enough to have kids.>flops>I don't know what happenedNiche game that nobody wanted in a genre that scares off casuals with an art style that couldn't be more divisive if it tried.
>>738032986Yeah, you got me. I picked up my telephone and had a big call with everyone on Steam and said 'hey guys, please don't buy Marathon,' and the madlads actually listened.
>>738036407Well, they were arrogant motherfuckers who had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the most basic corrections. Another year with no feedback would not have saved the game.
>>738034476I know it means I'm a retard, but I laugh my ass off at these low effort rotated graph pictures.
>>738032890The reason the PS5 has no games is because in 2020, they ordered all their major studios to make live services. Half of them didn't come out. Half of them flopped. The only major success story has been Helldivers.
The shooting genre is dead because there are no cool new ideas. All the new shooting genres are ass with limited ability to offer diversity in gameplay. Look at old games like boomer shooters, twitch shooters, and halo. You can take their core gameplay are apply it to a plethora of different game modes from right arena modes, to PvE modes, to big team modes, to objective modes, to class based modes, etc… Now look at modern shooting games. They’re all hero shooters or high battle royales where there’s only really one core game mode and anything else that gets added is a gimmick that just doesn’t work very well. But they keep making these type of games because old school shooters have been done to death and hero shooters are easier to monetise.
>>738036613All their DEI projects flopped but the game where you shoot bugs as a faceless soldier sold 20 million copies. Sony will learn nothing from this.
Give it a fair shake and you will be blasting
I gave my cock a fair shake and I blasted within one minute
>>738036585we might be retarded but we still didn't spend money on this game. there's also the other people that unironically believe the player pop chart can still move in that direction lol
Destiny 3 would save Bungie
>>738037148Yeah, I definitely got $40 worth of entertainment from all these threads. >the player pop chart can still move in that directionIt's possible that Bungie makes some miracle patch that fixes the game and they have their Ark Raiders moment and people come back, but personally I don't think it'll happen before Sony says fuck this and fires their asses
>>738036267idk man, it's not looking good for D2 either. look at the ridiculously tiny spike the last update got. i think most of the D2 fans are done with it and i kind of doubt the remaining playerbase will be enough to sustain more dev time for future expansions/updates/operations
>>738031761chuds did this
>>738037279>current state of d2Nah nigga
Why does /v/ want Marathon to fail so bad?
I just hope it kills bungie and destiny 3 gets developed by a more competent studio
>>738030875just one more tranny coded character game from sony bro and then we will beback
>>738037418people are sick of Bungie's shit
>>738036759It's not just that, the competitive aspect is completely dead because society is low trust and every online service is full of cheaters, so nobody wants to bother with it anymoreThey can't write singleplayer stories for shitThey've pidgeonholed themselves to boring gameplay mechanicsAnd even the multiplayer is dead because of cheatersThere's no point to playing FPS anymore.
>>738031034>Considers 5 trailers and a free weekend as big marketinglmao?
>>738030875>Says former Square Enix execWhen is their stock price going to stop crashing?
>>738031761>>good gameplayits standard ass fps console shooter gameplay but slowed down
>>738037497I have never played a game made by Bungie in my life. You guys are obsessed.
>>738031761The game literally just wasn't designed for mass appeal, especially considering normies are familiar with Arc Raiders now which is the most casualized extraction shooter to date. Low TTK, no AMM, no safety pocket, highly impactful abilities like being able to go invisible, plus it didn't have a safe generic brown n bloom realistic art style.
>>738033717>The last big marketing campaign they had for an IP that wasn't FF was fuckin' ForspokenExplains the "former">>738034386>shill the game so hard another 10000 people start playing and do the sameGames as a Service, pioneered by Bernie Stolar, scammed whales in so different ways like studying money habits and giving fake overblown prices, casinos with no win state preying on children and the mentally unstable that won't even let them keep their fictional wins one year later, possessive toxic partner habits like preventing people from installing other games or doing other stuff in the day, child labor, dark markets, it was only a matter of time before they dabbled into pyramid schemes too
>>738030875>Little to no marketing or support>An entire 8 minute cut by one of the most acclaimed movie directors out there >Let them delay the game by a year if not longer >Didn't just pull the plug after the plagiarism fiasco>Multiple ads and shorts spamming YouTube before release Let's not count that freaking song they released for the single of the soundtrack. If anything Sony has been too fair with Bungie. The moment the plagiarism shenanigans came out they should have chopped Bungie's management.
>>738037845They also paid a fuckload of streamers and those fags aren't cheap, the big ones can easily cost 6 figures for a single 2 hour stream
>>738037316That's why I think it'll downgrade to a small group at best.
Marathon is a series of groundbreaking Science Fiction First Person Shooters, of which the first three were developed for the Macintosh by Bungie Software. Players take control of a Super-Soldier originally tasked as a security officer onboard a colony ship called the Marathon, hence the title. As the ship is attacked by an alien race called the Pfhor, the player joins forces with several Artificial Intelligences to save the day. At least, that's what nominally happens.Beyond the Ludicrous Gibs and surface level plot, Marathon is famous for its incredibly rich and complex backstory. An entire fan site exists just to weave together the story of the series together, for reference. In-game terminals that contain all of the games' dialogue come close to William Gibson levels of ambiguity: lots of surreal textual scenes (in the middle of convincing runtime errors) will scratch your cortex. When you're not being confounded by layers of symbolism, the game has tons of plausible quotes from technology design documents, history records, and standards guidelines that will make you wish no AIs will ever be put in working order. For such a simple game, the world of Marathon is remarkably fleshed out, which is only par for the course from the people who would go on to make Halo and Destiny. This also doesn't touch on many of the themes, which include transhumanism, A.I. and organic relationships, and the concept of destiny.
>why did Marathon flop
>>738037625yes, some of us were fans of their previous games and would like for them to stop making shitty games. are you new to how hobbies work?
>>738037845>>738031034>>738030970Really reminds you how out of touch some anons are with the industry
>>738038140Don't act like that's a bad thing.
>>738038202I mean it is when you're trying to talk about it.
>>738038007even among all the slop you can easily out its putrid artstyle
>>738030875They're just making shit up. They paid streamers, had lots of ads, and had the kinds of promotional skits that only high budget games get. And they made full use of their control over the game journos.It's just that nobody showed up for the party because people don't want to immerse themselves in such an ugly world. Do people want to relax and get hyped while bathing in the warm glow of quirky anime girls. beautiful gacha regions, and an intense story with a masculine punch? Yes. I actually disagree with Asmon saying that nobody cares about promotional shows or events. The thing that nobody cares about is going on an adventure that feels like it was written by Karens and faggots with repulsively ugly characters.
I dont get how people think this looks good
>>738037418Bungie has spent the last decade taking massive shits down the throats of Destiny cattle. To them Marathon is the final insult, the Destiny IP is on life support and has seemingly been sacrificed at the altar in favor of getting Marathon out the door. Bungie's probably hated by other playstation fanbases too, given that they're basically responsible for the TLOU factions game getting cancelled. There's culture warriors who hate Bungie for being turbo woke on social media (even if Marathon itself has none of that stuff in it, AFAIK). And then there's just general hostility towards live service slop, especially when it comes to IP revivals. Bungie's just getting it from every angle.Me personally I just find it really interesting. Marathon isn't Concord 2 or Anthem 2, it's its own thing. They released Cryo Archive and the numbers were still down week-over-week, they released the mid season patch and the numbers were still down week-over-week, they put the game on sale and the numbers were still down week-over-week. Everyone who bought Marathon praises it to kingdom come, yet they keep leaving in droves. Why?
Sony impulsively bought Bungie as a move against Xbox, both as revenge for them buying Bethesda and Activision and also to prevent Bungie from possibly being hired to work on a future Halo title, but now that Xbox is crippled and Halo is irrelevant it's doubtful that Sony sees much use for keeping Bungie around in the long term. Sony is probably itching to liquidate the studio and send the fractured remains to work on Horizon Zero Dawn spin-offs and TLOU remasters forever.
>Dude marathon had tons of marketing>lists completely basic standards form of advertisement>Ok yes none of my neighbors or co-workers ever heard of the game but as someone who spends 12 hours a day online I heard about it a lot
>>738038735>Ok yes none of my neighbors or co-workers ever heard of the game but as someone who spends 12 hours a day online I heard about it a lotthey spent 3 weeks paying every streamer and the most known peanut in the world to shill their game which trickles down to tik tok and instagrampaying for bill board ads and newspaper ads and tv spots are worthless if you want to get to the gamer audience its all about streamers now
>>738038735The marketing not being successful in your anecdotal situation doesn't mean it didn't exist. Sony laid out big for the marketing. They even had paid shills here on /v/ for a few weeks.
>>738038561There's a mindset in Hollywood of taking all of those voices in your head that say "this is a bad idea" or "you haven't done a good enough job" and quashing them. And it's supported by toxic positivity throughout the workplace.This is self-esteem incarnate and is a prime example of it being evil. You should have self-respect, not self-esteem.
I want to buy it but I'm lucky to get 5 hours a week to game so is there any point?
>>738038920>doesn't mean it didn't existGood thing no one said it didn't exist
>>738038735autism
>>738030875Wait, why someone from SE would know this?
>>738038920>They even had paid shills here on /v/ for a few weeks.anons like to trot this line out whenever other anons on /v/ get excited for a shitty game but at some point you need to look around you and admit that /v/ is filled with people who are excited about shitty games because they actually like them.
>>738039339>but I'm lucky to get 5 hours a week to gameI'm not sure if the thing I'd do in your position is appropriate or legal to spell out so I won't. But in your shoes as they are I wouldn't buy Marathon.
>>738038920>They even had paid shills here on /v/ for a few weeks.Got a single shred of evidence to support this or are you just going "Someone liked a game I dont therefore they must be paid"
>>738030970funny how none of that reached me.first time I heard about the game was when they ripped off art assets from some tranny or some shit.
>>738039398>>738039691I wish I was kidding anons, but they were legit paid shills that worked on very obvious schedules. One even had a melty from how badly we were bullying him and admitted to being paid. It wasn't a Sony employee directly of course, it was a bunch of shitty ESLs hired by a third level company like Babel Media. They had the same scripts, used the same images, and made so many threads the jannies started banning them. The other thing that was really funny about them is they definitely had orders to shit on Arc Raiders, because they'd bring it up even if no one was talking about it (just to shit on it), or if another anon mentioned the game, the shills would dogpile on those posts like crazy.>>738039691I had a pic saved on my laptop but it's in the other room and i don't wanna walk over.
>literal facebook post thread>zero source >even the facebook comments are making fun of OPDead controversy/v/ lost
>>738038140Yeah fuck off Just because it didn't have a happy meal or a vandal pocket pussy as its marketing push doesn't mean the marketing so far has been small or lackluster.
>i-it's because of the lack of marketingI'd say it's because the game had too much marketing, the game probably would've done better if they shadow dropped it all of a sudden nglstill shit, though, but at least not everyone would be aware of how much tranny shit is in there
>>738030875ONE MORE CONCORD REJECTED
>No marketing I was still getting constant marathon YouTube ads 3 weeks after it released
>>738030875If people could post porn of that character in the OP that would be swell, thanks.
LMAO
i was shaking my fist at marathon at first, but i had a copy bought for meso i at least tried it to have a real opinion on itafter playing it, the ui/menus/lore are all dogshit, but the actual shootan n stuff is pretty damn good and i'm actually having a lot of fun doing all of cryoit's extremely unfriendly to new/unskilled players so it's numbers are just going to tank and it'll only be played by a small core group of peoplealso it's ugly
I think it's time for Bungie to pass on over to the afterlife.
>>738041038>ads on YouTube
>>738041208The bottom right part of that cover art is just awful. It takes what should be an intense moment and uses color and posture to suck all of the energy out of it.
>>738041038>adsHello goy slopper
>>738039778>One even had a melty from how badly we were bullying him and admitted to being paid.and then everyone clappedyou offputting goofball
>>738041803>It takes what should be an intense moment and uses color and posture to suck all of the energy out of it.this isn't even phrased in a way that makes sense to anyone with any form of artistic trainingyou sound like a dumb sperg trying to immitate someone who actually knows what they're talking about but failing because you've already posts 58 times in this thread samefagging and have more than likely already been posting nonstop for at least 7 hours
>>738039398I find it much more fun to believe that all /v/irgins are being 100% serious and honest at all times.
I don't know what Bungie were thinking with the grind in this game. No joke it takes you about 260 hours to reach the endgame boss in Cryo.
>>738042280He might be talking out his ass but he’s right that the cover looks kinda shitty and that’s all that really matters
>>738042280eh i got exactly what he meant shill bro, the whole visual design in maraflop is dogshit
>>738030875im too busy having a blast to watch ads
>>738042280Holy ESL shill meltdown
>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA>My game? PERFECTED>Marathon? BROKEN... RAPED>Marathons future? GONE... ERADICATED >No more HOPE>No more HYPE>No more GAMES>Bungie will be RAPED and my FACE will be the last thing they ever see>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>738042484And that’s really only if you’re putting in the extra effort to LFG vault groups on discord or play with a premade
>>738031761The game sucks lmao
>>738037697>generic brown n bloom realistic art style.Unc it's not 2009
>>738042280Malaysian tranny mad that someone's shitting on bungies lack of talent again lmao
>your compiler? WEAK... RECYCLED... a mere hive wizard from MY GAME...>your cyro archive? Nothing more than deepstone crypt>your pvp? RECYCLED... from MY GAME>your weapons? DISGUSTING... a mere RECYCLED vice variant from destiny 2...>your shells? UGLY... TRASH... they JOB to the average guardian from MY GAME>your art style? HIDEOUS... visual VOMIT...>your music? Nothing more than FART punk... Salvitori would laugh...>now KNEEL to your true machine GOD>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>lower peak on friday than thursdaymaratroons what the FUCK is going on?!?!
>>738043359They are tired of being raped all weak on twitter that they needed to go to bed
>>738042189What's your point, you retard?
>>738030970first time I hear about any of those. Maybe instead of blowjobbing third rate ecelebs they should've spent time actually making sure that shit reached my eyeballs even once.
>>738043436>weakweek* fuck maybe I should go to bed
>>738043451You dont use a browser ad blocker on YouTube to block the adsJust get ublock nigga
Are these threads are just one ass blasted Destiny fanboy spamming replies?Destiny isn't even that good man. Not even a good game that 2 hour onboarding tutorial was one of the worst things I've ever played.
Any Sony executive who had more faith in Concord and Marathon than Helldivers and Stellar Blade should be blacklisted from the industry.I'm not being hyperbolic.
>>738030875>some guy said that he thinks this implies poorly for Marathon>this is news and people are celebratingReally just using even the flimsiest of excuses to make any sort of thread, huh.
>>738041803The entire capsule art is atrocious, no art direction or composition went into that shit, it looks like 3 bad screenshots slapped together. The robot girl looks kinda nice, if that took all the space it MIGHT have some appeal. But "generic enemy with puke bright shield blocking low resolution blast" and "fat chest alien with glowing orb among christmas trees in red haze" are terrible.
You never played destinyYou are a paid bungshill
>>738043536sorry, we hate bungie here
>>738043359the weekend for marathon basically starts on thursday because thats when cryo unlocks
bungie? more like DONEgie lmao
>>738034386Modern ones, yes.
Reminder, bungie and snoy still has a moba up for release.
>>738044215Everyone is hyped for gummy bears
>>738039398>>738039691>>738042354>anon talks about shills>totally not shills suddenly come out of the woodworks to deny any shillingWeird how someone can do the exact thing so many times and still think people will fall for it.
>>738030875This game would have been loved if the characters looked cool and it had A SINGLE PLAYER/CO-OP CAMPAIGN.
>>738044240Damn right
>>738030875Could be misreading, but:>no marketingNigga...>Bungie fans, Halo fans and Marathon fans gave the game unlimited advertisement, good and bad as more info came out about the game (Destiny fans were mad, but that was still more noise and more free advertisement, technically)>half the internet's journalists were glazing the hell out of the game for a while>huge server slam free test>got free marketing from being "Concord 999999">free marketing from being yet another extraction shooter>free marketing from the controversy about the artist>free marketing from the revelation that Destiny 2 was half-abandoned solely to make Marathon>got a handful of different trailers, including one that got attention from the coomersThe game got plenty of attention, it's just a shit game and it makes sense for Sony to wind down on it. If a game gets a big update and the CCU doesn't move, the game's fucked, time to bail out unless you get lucky and pull a Cyberpunk by pulling in the weebs.>>738031761>too many popular GaaS are out right now>everyone's already playing a couple other extraction shooters comfortably>came out around the same time as some big-name indie games>doesn't carve its own niche other than "plastic clowns">the "plastic clowns" look unique (in a bad way)>is barely "Marathon", so OG Marathon fans don't care and just slam the game for not being Marathon when they begged for it to come back for decades>$40 for a game that feels like it should be F2P>PVP-focused, meaning new and shit players get squeezed out>first big update catered to the top players instead of pulling new people in>basically no visual customization for a game that really should have fuckloads>>738036356>visiting my parents>D2 just came out>Dad got peer-pressured into playing it>wants me to try it>enemies have color-coded shields>instant hard noHuge pet peeve of mine. IIRC they removed that after a while but I still haven't gone back though. D1 was okay.
>>738030964oof, this post did not age well... Just like Maraflop ;^)
The sub-20k weekend has arrived.
>>738030970And then they suddenly stop. Almost as if they realized the game did not reach the audience that they had hoped for.
>>738031761It has that Sony stank smell. PC owners hates it.
>>738032002That doesn't explain why other extraction shooters like Hunt grew since Marathon launched
Sony spent 4 billion on Bungie. The PS2 made them about 2 billion in profit.
>>738044875OhThats because marathon sucks
>>738032986Is it ever, and I'll do it again!
Destiny 2 has an insane amount of console players....while marathon is full of sweaty pc fags lool
>>738038140Yeah, always a bit annoying when people who sit behind 7 layers of adblock and only watch extreme niche content talk about not seeing any ads for stuff. Also annoying that I probably need to explain to those very same retards that there is nothing wrong with doing that, it's just very stupid that they don't notice that they are doing it.
>>738044315>muh single player and co-oppure autist virtue signalingliteral thousands of them but you whinge over the small dozen or so multiplayer releases for brownie points
>former square execWho?>No marketing pushAbsolute lieAt least you put the headline in the picture instead of at the very top so you have plausible deniability about this being an advertising thread for that news article. You have become smarter, shit eating journo.
>>738030875Wait but the blast?
>>738031761>glowing reviewsThe amount of people who seriously care about what game journalists think about games is almost 0. There are people who brag when a game they like gets good reviews, or get mad when a game they like gets bad ones, but none of those people have their actual tastes influenced by what some paid shill is saying.
>>738030875they dumped all of that money on those nice cinematics but i didn't see any of them until the game had been out a month (and even then only from threads about marathon, not natural exposure). they spent all of that money on making ads and didn't put any effort into getting them in front of people who weren't already following the game
>>738045257Marathon has a near 84% positive review rate on 47k reviews. That is not shills, that is people who purchased the game.The simple fact is it's too hard for modern gamers. And /v/ is the epitome of the modern gamer. They can't even start threads without a post from another website.
>>738045207I am fucking right, esp about the first thing. (No one wants to play as a faggy looking robot).
>>738031761>extraction shooter targeted to streamers and sweatsyou can give the game every ancillary advantage possible but it won't matter if this is the core of it. a multiplayer game needs players to stay alive, and creating your game so that it's completely hostile to your lowest skill players is just a recipe for disaster. the player economy for this game was always going to be doomed
>>738031761>oversaturated market released late to capture normie audience and with a beta and controversies so terrible it killed word of mouth>said market already contained Tarkov players (hooked on the game like heroin), Hunt players (no other game like it), Arc players (babby casuals), and other smaller games>game was meant to appeal to Tarkov autists but streamlined for faster gamesThis game had an effective market of no one in particular, and good gameplay simply isn't enough when there's already games with>great gameplay (Hunt)>great tactical faggotry (Tarkov)>streamlined and play your own way shit (Arc)Bungie's addition of arg and meta narratives isn't enough when those elements barely held destiny together, a cooperative mmo type of game
>>738045404>Get Poppy to do music>And Harmany Corrine to direct>Doesn't even break 1 million views, the artists barely promote it and Bungie put no ad-spend towards itIt's a fantastic cinematic too, really sells the energy of the game.https://youtu.be/vtw5BDpKgJM?si=I3MwJqnEXclbj3Q0
>>738030875>mogged by a single dev
>>738045617metal eden also has a similar and better aesthetic
>>738045621>Hardest extraction shooter ever still holding above 15k peak despite the price tag, negative press, questionable balancing, and genre downturnHonestly impressed. They could do something with this over the next few seasons. A large problem with Marathon is that players feel left behind if they take time off the game. Bungie made huge changes to low-level progression so I'm looking at the first wipe very closely.
>>738044875Because Hunt has been around for years now and has a very established community. It also does something different than most shooters with its setting and gameplay loop.Nobody asked for Marathon. Nobody was excited for it.
>>738045621heres your weekend bump bro lmao shit monday is gonna be like 13k
marathon is so fucking garbage that any fucker could see it would failbut the fact that square penix has to stick their oar in? what right do those irrelevant fuckers who havent made a good game in 30 years have to point this shit out?those cunts mistakenly thought turn-based games dont work well with modern graphics for the last 30 years, only be fucking SCHOOLED by a bunch of french part-timersfuck penixfuck bungieif you reply to this, you will die of AIDS
>>738030964loooool
>>738030875im looking for ziegler...
>>738045747>negative pressMy brother in christ, the press could not be trying to hype up and help Marathon more if they tried.>genre downturnTarkov, Arc, and Hunt are all doing fine.
>>738046057im literally watching yongyea talking about how he thinks marathon will die soon in another window
>>738046106YongYea isn't the press, and he was cautiously optimistic until about two weeks ago. I'm talking about all the shitty journo clique sites that gave Marathon 9/10s and broke their backs to keep writing puff pieces until it became too ridiculous to defend. I think PC Gamer wrote a handful of them.
>>738046164>only the old guard transitionary media is the pressyongyea its whats considered new media (guy with a webcam on youtube)
>>738046197>yongyea its whats considered new media (guy with a webcam on youtube)okay and burntpeanut who is a million times more relevant gave the game a glowing review. what negative press? the press is all in on marathon. the people simply rejected it.
>>738046197Even if we accept that definition, he had been neutral/positive until very recently.And if you're calling someone like Yong to be press, then so are the streamers that Bungie paid to play the game.
>>738046229I JUST SHOWED U AN EXAMPLE OF NEGATIVE PRESS
>>738046237but yeah paid shills are also pressif ur making commentary on the game ur pressbtw if you are an american citizen u also benefit from "freedom of the press" because you can be an independent journal
its like anti-CDthe game receives positive press until its failure became too obvious to ignore, and now we receive begrudging "negative press"
>>738046248>one literal who>every single streamer gave it glowing reviews>every magazine outlet gave it glowing reviews>the discord pushing the people who own the game to give it glowing reviews>oh but some retard on twitter and literal who!!!!the press is majority in support in marathon and it still flopped because people at the end of the day have to like the game. they dont like marathon.
>>738046308id actually like to counter this by saying /v/ and the steam forums and various literal who youtubers have been broadly negativeits the same shit with dragon age veilguard, all the reviewers and journos sucked its dick but the negative press outweighed the good press not in terms of viewership but in impact
>delete marathon>extraction shooters are ass>turn on other games>they’re not marathon>start thinking about marathonUh oh
>>738045747>A large problem with Marathon is that players feel left behind if they take time off the gameThey need to make the game easier for solo lobbies. The player count is too low for randoms because 90% of the playerbase is at the endgame so if anyone decides to take a break and come back they're forced to play solo. Just reduce the amount of AI on the map, the current issue is that everyone runs Assassin so if you don't and actually fire your weapon everyone else knows and sits in corners around you.
>>738046371well yeah, the establishment press is pretty irrelevant these days. they have a lot of power when it comes to social connections and capital, but they are so divergent opinion wise from consumers that their opinions hold no weight
>>738046308everyone likes marathon, it’s just that no one wants to play it after time. >what the fuck does that meanWould you sky dive every day? No.
>>738045747HAHAHAHAHAHA the cope is fucking unreal
>>738046057Arc Raiders is currently at 1/4 it's peak players, despite a brand new map update. Tarkov is sub-10k right now, but the peak is hard to find...I think they did a repackage in late 2025? Hint is interesting because it has healthy numbers but no variance, no peaks. It has a core audience and nothing else. In total, Arc was a genre anomaly by even going mainstream at all. Fine is a relative term, if these are the average numbers for extraction then Marathon is doing fine as well.
>>738030875At this point Sony really need to Hyenas Fairgame$
>>738046449>dont buy marathon>laugh at it dying for months with /v/ feels good man
>>738038674The game is brutally punishing ,streamers have move-on and resident evil and slay the spire took off .Marathon could had legs if it was free.But bungie and sony are completletly out of touch with what gamers want.
>>738046587I feel like Arc is fine because the developers don't design forever games. The Finals is dead now too but it had like 8 months of popularity and that was enough for the studio. As always, the real problem is the live service mindset
>>738031761Bungie lost most of their goodwill they got over the years. They have a sizable amount of antishills from burnt destiny players, in addition to that there's so many extraction shooter type games
>>738046645The streamers that stick with it got to Cryo and finished within a month,and the streamers that didn't got left behind. I expect many to hop back on with season 2 since there's not many other games coming out this summer. Next big "streamer" game is Tokon is August.>>738046651The things that made Arc so profitable is also what made many player quit in the end. It's jank to a fault, which is cute until it becomes annoying. Stationary metas, many exploits, and ofc the most egregious sbmm in any game ever. But it sold millions of copies.
>>738046525Jesus your shill posts are getting more embarrassing by the day
>>738039280the zoomer pseudo intellectuals are getting really fucking funny.
It's UGLY as sin. Niche genre i don't give a shit.
>>738046916>extraction shooters are stress free and easy! I’m gonna play this every day!
>>738030996Same. I like Marathon's universe, I just don't give a shit about online sweaty "extraction shooters".
>>738031761>kernel level antishitshaaan't
I find it hilarious they bragged how good their anti cheat was and they chose to use the same one from destiny 2 which the game had massive controversy for the cheating in pvp and yet they somehow got away with it
>>738049270The cheating in this game is terrible, and I can tell who’s cheating immediately by how they’re moving around the map. Most players and teams will be doing double takes. They’re focused on their own audio and visibility. Cheating teams are sprinting around the map and mantling shit like crazy. I’ve never seen anyone banned, the reporting is basically non existent due to how spectating works. It is the worst anti cheat I’ve ever seen.
>>738048615is it?I thought it was bullshit since the game is infested with cheats anyways
>>738049270Relying solely on the software never works because cheaters will always find a way around it, you need a way for players to spot cheaters as well. These games need killcams and match replays it even makes the devs job easier because it reduces the amount of false reports.
>>738041803For me it's the red portion looking like it has image compression noise because of the filters or something, why the fuck use that for the cover?And then the face of the girl looks like a low quality cropped jpg screenshot of a prerendered blender model because part og her shoulder is DOF'd and cut out, all while having to read the fucking title sideways. Fuck off.
They literally hired an award winning director to do a long trailer lmao
>>738030970TF2 had a video where one character was shown banging another character's mom, and it has more players right now than Marathon despite being a game from 2007. Bungie is clearly doing the live service thing wrong if they're being mogged by the oldest hat trading simulators in history.
>>738050208>TF2 tardThe cockroaches of gaming that deserve a good fumigation
>>738031761imagine if Doom 2016 had been an online only battleroyal with a single gamemode and no other features beyond that that's what his game is
>>738050301The Doom reboot was a fun novelty at the time but in retrospect it wasn't good.I guarantee you that if they did the same outdated premise for the Marathon reboot they'd have gotten a lot more positive discussion from "online gamers" but the game would have been far worse and less fun
>>738050385I think the market for a good single player / coop FPS has been missing untapped for a pretty good amount of time, especially a game with decent or unique art direction. It's just that Rage 2 and Dark Ages and the new call of duties have had such a retarded take on new and unnecessary mechanics. Honestly, they could have made a pretty decent halo like but no, we MUST have live service slop and "fontslop"
>>738050385People don’t actually play single player games. They play them for 4 hours and post about them online, just like the majority of reviewers.
>88,337 all-time peak 2 months ago>17,050 24-hour peakIn just over two months, it has already lost more than half of its players on Steamand if you extrapolate those numbers to PlayStation, which sold fewer units than the PC, it means there are even less PS5 players
>>738051086Marathon is exactly the outcome of waning interest in co-op FPS. Halo, Destiny, Remnant, Borderlands, have a lot at the actual player sentiment behind them all now. Doom 2016 is the ONLY standout.
>>738051389Yes that’s very cool. Thanks for sharing a steam chart.
>>738051389according to recent articles, of marathons 2m "players" only like half a million were on ps5. if PC only has 1 million players and its peak is 15k then PS5 likely has like 7k at peak. And thats going by this "players" metric, its probably even more dire than that
>>738030875Its not flopping, its stabilizing. Its been hovering around 17k to 22k for a while now. I doubt it will go much lower than that.
>>738052345Compare this time last week to this time this week:16,100 at 06:00 UTC last week.13,107 at 06:00 UTC this week. Floppin'.
>>738052575No one cares. If the game dies it dies. If it gets new content, cool. What is with this site and these weirdos watching player counts.are you even from here
>>738052679Many people care.
>>738045617what game is this?
>>738030875Total Chud Victory.
>>738052710No they don’t, that’s just for spastics who don’t have children to laugh at online. What do you think you’re in good company here posting charts and player counts. Congratulations, 30,000 more retard normies play your game. All that matters are the gameplay concepts, design and story. That’s it.
>>738052679>reddit spacing>are you even from herelol
>>738052840I don't think people are going to conform to your preference regarding what should be cared about. You'll have to decide if your lack of ability to control others is going to bother you.
>>738052962>AI imageWhat company is this nigga part of
>>738052997>what is gatekeeping topics on 4chanWhat’s up newfaggot
>>738045747lol when the reset happens, only the most hardcore people will keep playingand if marathon does get a free week to advertise the reset, it will get horrible reviews from the new players that will get pubstomped
>>738053059It appears that you have chosen to allow it to bother you. That makes me gladder than I already was!
>>738045747>hardestTarkov
>>738052997/v/ isn’t fucking /biz/. Faggots online get too comfortable on this board farming yous over twitch numbers and company stocks and steam charts and dilute the conversation around dozens of games because they’re waging an autistic war in their mind against some company. Literally this board of full of faggots like this.
>>738052962good morning bharat sir redeem the AI slop bastard bitch
>>738053274>/v/ isn't fucking /biz/I, for one, am looking forward to the tasty dip.
>>738052679ok bungie
The season 2 progress wipes will save it.
>>738038674Marathon is Xdefiant 2, down to making the same mistake that Xdefiant made. Who knew that if you don't protect the causals they will leave the game and if they do it's inevitable that the sweats will leave when they become the skill floor?
>>738045747>A large problem with Marathon is that players feel left behind if they take time off the game.>Bungie made huge changes to low-level progression so I'm looking at the first wipe very closelyI sent them a feedback form about how everyone should be able to claim a Cryo sponsored kit every week and they did exactly that.I also told them that they shouldn't wipe faction progress, only vaults, and unstable salvage can be used for barters after that, so expect that to be announced next.
>>738045747>negative press
>>738053625bungie should hire you bro
>>738053142>tarkov>hardThe only hard part about Tarkov is starting out late because Nikita moved all of the not shit ammunition to late traders so people stop whining that they die for playing like a retard.You can almost entirely avoid combat and rat around if you're shit unlike Marathon which forces conflict.t. been playing since the first closed alpha.>>738053274It's honestly embarrassing how videogame discourse of the 2020's isn't about a games merits or faults but how many people are playing it at the moment.Utilizing this metric people must think PubG is God's gift to man.
>>738051861But what about 400k discord users!?!?! What about our Daily Active Interest metrics and H.O.M.O analytics numbers? What am I going to put on my engagement deck!?!?!
>3.6 billion big bazongas btw
>>738033501>>$40 instead of F2P when games like this mandate F2P, Arc Raiders being a giant exception to the rule.Literally the opposite. Every single major game in this genre (Hunt: Showdown, Tarkov and Arc Raiders) has a price tag. A F2P model would promote microtransactions turning the already imbalanced pvp of an extraction shooter into pay2win. Tarkov already got a lot of flak for its $250 editions proving major boosts to players and people also complained about the p2w camouflage skins in the Hunt.
I really like the graphics and art style. Shame it's a PvP only game. I ain't paying top dollar for that. I'd be tempted to give it a try on a free weekend or something, but I just don't have the desire to play extraction shooters.
>>738053775imagine how sony is feeling right now buying them for that much and all their multiplayer slopservice games fail and then they shit this game out on top of it my god
>>738053561Not if the maps are exactly the same. All a seasonal wipe means is the established players already know the game, which means an even worse time for new players.
>>738053904>you no likey my 5D business strategies? >sorry, I'm retiring, you deal with it lol
>dads of marathon fw they log in after the wipe and all their loot they gathered after grinding their coffee is gone
They were showing ads for the game on Netflix at least a month after launch. How long were they supposed to advertise it for?
>>738054024The pic is from before launch
>>738054009how long will the queue times be?
>>738053904I think you're overblowing how big of an impact this is. Sony prints hundreds of millions of dollars a day by simply existing.This is like you throwing 200 bucks on a sportsball bet and losing it; you're not happy but it's a learning experience and not like losing life changing money.
>>738053716>It's honestly embarrassing how videogame discourse of the 2020's isn't about a games merits or faults but how many people are playing it at the moment.Major modern games are often multiplayer and that requires an active player base. Player bases often leave. The games are often shut down. Therefore a major question about a modern game is: Will this be playable in the future? There is nothing embarrassing about discussing that. It is a byproduct of corporations pivoting away from rich single player experiences.
>>738054167Concord was most likely the biggest flop in all of media history. I don't think more money was wasted on a single other IP ever.
>>738044642OG Marathon fans are insane. I tried it. It’s bad Doom in the same way that modern Marathon is a worse Apex. I don’t see the hype for the originals, there’s no way Bungie was going to make a modern single player game when they could spin the wheel and go for the infinite upside live service multiplayer game.
>>738054270disney marvel or star wars thoremember the 1 billion dollar star wars hotel that shut down in 18 months
>>738054372the star wars hotel wasn't 1 billion dollars, you could tell it was built on the cheap. also, they mismanaged those IPs strategically, but they still made some amount of money. A Concord equivalent would be like if Episode IX sold about 1000 tickets globally
>>738054215>There is nothing embarrassing about discussing thatBut people bring this shit up about literally every fucking game multiplayer or not.How popular something is has never been an indication of how good something is as outlined by the PubG comparison. At that point it's a race to the bottom of player standards.Discourse that's entirely>less players lolis boring and pathetic and lends 0 insight as to why something supposedly fails, or why something succeeds.>>738054270And yet the company is still trucking on as if nothing happened. Once you get big enough you can waste billions of dollars and still continue on purely through momentum; see Disney, M$, Sony, and co.To continue unlimited growth companies will throw lines in every direction hoping for a snag; this is why whenever you go to the store you see some nasty as fuck shit like>New! Wasabi flavored toilet paper!or>Your favorite app...but now with AI assistance!At the end of the day it's a business and everyone involved but the wagies lol get a golden parachute if they get terminated for their failed gamble.
>>738054561the game is failing because its bad. just like highguard
>>738054646Wow I never thought of it that way.You are quite the orator.
>>738054694thanks, enjoy the shutdown in 8 months lol
>>738031761>Spend a Gorillion Dollars in an attempt to create the new fortnite>on a long-existing, extremely niche Genre instead of something unique.>by resurrecting a dead IP that's in no-way related to your new genre, so you piss off an Existing Fanbase>Using horrible Aesthetics>In a Genre that's inherently self-defeating (requires new players to be killed for the enjoyment of veteran players, which puts off new players)Gee, I wonder how it couldn't.
>>738055047>Using horrible AestheticsTastelet I'm afraid
>>738055113This. Melted crayons are peak aesthetics.
>>738054270Bro, Sony make like 10 billion dollars a month.
>>738055113>Mmm I do enjoy white and lime green, so delicious>I'll have that with my side of Neon Magenta, or Bright Yellow and CyanHere's my favourite aesthetic: Things having more than two colours and actually being okay with them not being Bright, Glowing Neon and in your face.You're praising the audio equivalent of a 90 decibel sine wave, or the flavour equivalent of pure Citric Acid. There's nothing there of substance.
>>738055047>In a Genre that's inherently self-defeating (requires new players to be killed for the enjoyment of veteran players, which puts off new players)Ideally they'd protect new players from the sweats but the player count is so low that their matchmaking takes fucking ages to establish a game, and you'll be facing sweats either way. The failure of this game should be studied.
>>738055384If you actually played it you'd know the biggest visual hurdle the game has is not being saturated ENOUGH.The promo shots and short films with better lighting look way better because of this.
>>738055480They do protect them, there's 3 brackets for the game.under level 10 is queued together, under 50 and then over 50.The problem is even newplayers who aren't mediocre can stomp lobbies of the clueless masses.>matchmaking takes foreverAt no level is this true unless you're living in some shit like Africa.
>>738055113>the dish in question
>>738055384Shut up man you would have put brown and brown in the game Saving Private Ryan ass art style and stood and clapped. It’s cyberpunk without the neon 80s signs. That’s all.
>>738030875He's right, Marathon is already dead
>>738055113the duplo guns are just too much for me
>>738054561I do agree that the nature of the discussion could be more nuanced and detailed, but ultimately it's not the consumer's responsibility to explain why they like or dislike something. It is the company's job to make an appealing product (and, in Bungie's case, be an appealing company to support). And, since we live in the branch of the timeline that had Occupy Wallstreet and the subsequent culture war that was inflicted upon us by the elites, people are super tribal and not very patient or curious the way they were and could be. There's not much point in making effort posts because the assumption is that the person you're disagreeing with is ideologically captured and stupid (often true) or that, on other forums, a moderator will delete or ban you if you speak the truth (often true). And so the pragmatic pivot is toward low effort posts and emotion.
>>738055598>One of the biggest complaints of the game is non-existant Fucking retarded shill. Nothing you say can entice new players to play this game for you. Kys
>>738055619I'd actually have gone for a dark grey aesthetic with some green and oliveFor some reason.
>>738056071Oh so doom 3
>>738055891>One of the biggest complaints of the game is non-existant Which? The lack of MMR or the queues.Because in NA and Oceania I get matches in <30seconds. It's 10k online right now not 400 dude. 70% of the playerbase is in NA with the rest spread around EU and OCE. Sucks if you're a thirdie but a paid videogame isn't getting a population there anyways.>Nothing you say can entice new players to play this game for you.Okay, don't buy it. It's going to be f2p before years end.Try and not whip yourself into a furor and articulate what you mean next time.
>>738056147>Okay, don't buy it. My guy, I already bought and played it. It's a piece of shit and the least I can do is warn anons against the lies your ilk is telling.The game doesn't prioritise pings because these games never do anymore so you're still getting rubberbanded if you get matched with a third worlder even if you live in an internet hub center.It checks for level, it checks for gear, it checks for the quests that you're playing, it attempts to make a diverse group of shells, it checks for many things but if the player count isn't there you're still getting matched with 3 vandals after 5 minutes of waiting - them on a free kit while you've wasted minutes to "buildcraft" your own - soon to be wasted by sweats who also occupy the map because it couldn't find any alternative. As I said, you can suck a dick in your dead game.
>>738038561And I don't get how people think this looks bad.
>>738053625>I also told them that they shouldn't wipe faction progressBad idea. Faction progress makes you inherently stronger than someone with no faction progress. This defeats the point of a reset. What should actually be done is making the progression easier, to the point where it's feasible for someone with a job and other games to play to reach VIP with at least 2 factions that aren't CyAc.
>>738056427>It checks for level, it checks for gear, it checks for the quests that you're playingIt checks for level alone, nothing else you said is true.>but if the player count isn't there you're still getting matched with 3 vandals after 5 minutes of waitingI have never waited longer than a minute and that's on a shit and useless map like perimeter in the level 50+ queue. Taking a wild guess that you're playing solo with crew fill enabled if you have a complaint like>them on a free kit while you've wasted minutes to "buildcraft" your ownor you live in middle of a jungle. I have no experience with that since I have 5 friends who own it and there's always a full group available without needing to crewfill.>you're still getting rubberbanded if you get matched with a third worlder even if you live in an internet hub center.No, marathon just has high tickrate servers that are unstable so sometimes you get a shit one that can't keep up. This is why their weekly maintenance lasts hours.>soon to be wasted by sweats who also occupy the map because it couldn't find any alternativeOnce again there's no matchmaking system beyond character levels in certain brackets. Also self reporting that you're bad at videogames if you're complaining about sweats in a competitive game.Anyways, thanks for your patronage. Free to play by years end, look forward to it.>>738056756>What should actually be done is making the progression easier, to the point where it's feasible for someone with a job and other games to play to reach VIP with at least 2 factions that aren't CyAc.Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous how much shit you need and how much those upgrades impact shell tier lists. Destroyer is pretty terrible until you max out your heat capacity, agility, and heatsink.
>>738055614What's wrong with IKEA? I'm writing this from an IKEA table as we speak. I miss IKEA.
>>738056860>
Maranigger
>>738056860well I guess all the people complaining about queues on social media are just wrong. thanks anon!
>>738031761>looks like shit>evacuation shooterWow, no, what a mystery.
Maratroon is marketed every day on /v/. The devs even intentionally stole art and props from random artists in hopes it will lead to engagement and marketing for their slop. I wonder what next woke slop will be marketed as hard as this was attempted.
>>738056860>It checks for level alone, nothing else you said is true.You know nothing, retard
>>738057024Sick retort, man.>>738057071Wrong? Probably not. Living in Gabon? Most likely. Like I said maybe solo players are suffering but in trios, which I may add the game was designed around (massive fuckup bungie side designing a game around having 2 other people for a niche title) it's not a problem in my experience playing on US and OCE with my Nip & Burger bros.
>>738044875Because Hunt is fun unlike Maratroon.
>>738057000for a game supposedly all about aesthetics and design, which has multiple mega corps vying for power with their own brand gear and kit, everything looks like it came from the same store, ie some high school designer cribbing of tdr & deviantart ca 2004 + IKEA >2012
>>738057232Yes, it definitely doesn't check for levels alone. I was once put on the same team with someone at level 110 while being level 40.
>>738057291It just gives up because pic related
>>738057232>posts an image that doesn't deny what I saidWow you sure showed me.It was putting level 50+ players into lower level brackets, anon. I was there killing compiler and me and my friends wondered why suddenly every lobby was so easy instead of a brawl to the death, no one knew the map or had bubble shields.>>738057291When you have massive level disparities in groups it does that.If I crew fill with a level 8 as a level 100 it can put sub level 50's into the party. What I'm uncertain of is if it means enemy players will be in a lower level bracket, if it was a competent companybungie is not oneit wouldn't do that, but as far as I know there wasn't a means to check in game besides adding people and I wasn't going to do that.
>>738057541>When you have massive level disparities in groups it does that.But that was crew fill. I don't have anyone to play with.
>>738057642You don't.The other guys were grouped, hence why you got put into the mix with a 100+ player.If you're speaking of that week of duo queue they were open that they were fucking with things to collect data.
Game should have been more like Halo in presentation. Large single player campaign that is fun to replay. Multiplayer modes. Other features to play; like you can keep the extraction mode, but also there could/should be a roguelite solo mode. Going all in on the extraction was dumb as fuck, and also, the game doesn't even really offer that much to do in terms of maps, etc. Game small as fuck and they purposefully set themselves up for failure.
>>738030875>former square cucklordDon't need a fucking Mongol Lord to tell me what i've known since Halo 2.
>>738057541>>doesn't deny what I said>writes an anecdote that directly contradicts itYou truly are the brightest rusty dildo in the dilator shed
>>738030964your post aged like milk
>>738048615based
>>738050385The more I play Marathon the more I wish it was Bungie's next Halo. The shooting does feel good and the world is cool but it's stuck in this shitty hero shooter extraction game with characters that I don't like. A 12 hour campaign and an arena shooter multiplayer with a handful of maps and they could've had something great without needing to spend +250 million on it.
>>738030875>$200M down the shitter just like thatshould've hired more faggots and trannies retards LOL
>>738030875The game was dead since the fucking unveil/gameplay trailers. All the normie YouTube comments are like 90% scathing/dejected. Game released to half the free weekend numbers. Going free to play isn't going to save anything people already rejected the product
>>738059421I'm sincerely sorry that your mother used your infant skull as an ashtray, however that image doesn't prove me wrong.High level players were being put into new player lobbies unintentionally and they fixed it a few hours later.
>>738059758Yeah. Lore is interesting and there are several great hooks>what happened to the colonists?>what are the anomaly and the contagion>several rogue AI and several AI that have been taken over by the planet's influence>>what are shells and what are the corps manipulating youEtc. Extremely based carrots on sticks being put on a big pile of diarrhea
>>738059827Wrong. The original trailers were from 2023 and were very positively received, so was their short film.You're likely confusing it with the plagiarism scandal last year, which made the game a very easy target for ecelebs to farm rage content from, so the reputation stuck.
>>738059926>what are shells and what are the corps manipulating youTechnically this isn't a mystery, all the shell patterns were originally made by Sekiguchi and modified by different groups.The real question is a meta one, what will they do with the actual Runner characters they established before Ziegler turned them into shooter classes? Are they still canon? They use them in new trailers so probably yes, will they get actual stories in the game?
>>738059953>which made the game a very easy targetshouldn't have stolen textures 1:1 from a literal who tranny. regardless, it's "easy pickings" because it's tasteless tripe in a sweat genre that's filled with cheaters
>>738031761yep, it's a complete mystery... absolutely no one saw it coming, everyone kept saying it was a blast in a bottle and everyone was having a lighting, but i guess we will never know how or why it happened... yep, never ever
>>738060046>Technically this isn't a mystery, all the shell patterns were originally made by Sekiguchi and modified by different groups.I think that is a bait and switch. Implications could be that the shells are made out of sleeping colonists from the Marathon
>>738059953No one gives a shit/hears about "the scandal" except terminally onlines. Look at the gameplay trailer from one calendar year ago. Read the comments. It's an all around rejection of...it.
if a sale and new content updates didn't save the game, what makes you think f2p will? especially when the monetization schemes are quite lackluster compared to other f2p live services
>>738037418Because the game should have been destiny 3
>>73804543780% of the people who play games never give a review, and when they do is usually hardcore fans or people who don't want to be mean and just leave a hollow positive review, the only exceptions are when a game is the target of a joke(concord, woke, etc) or when devs fuck things up really bad multiple times(a recent example is hd2)
>>738037418Because it's shit and their maintenance/balancing of the game is shit
>>738045437>They can't even start threads without a post from another website.My xitter screencap... I can't know my opinion without my xitter screencap...
>>738045437So fxin true xister you tell that chud
>>738045621She's dead Jim
>>738045747>marathon won actually right...
>>738045747This reads like what the Bungie CEO has to say to Sony CEO and is pacing around reciting his little shpiel in his head before getting defenestrated
>>7380605512.2M sales are a flop now?
>>738060960>2.2MLOL >>738060537
>>738060047>SwatsUh oh, shitter melty
>>7380609602.2M? where?
>>738031761you gonna be ok sis?
>>738059953nah hes right, i know you are a shill but i wish to say this anyway, people were so hyped when marathon was unveiled thinking it would be playstations halo. Then all the hype dissipated into dread when they said it was a live service extraction with microtransactions turd. The mood changed instantly. Everyone cept for a few tranny retards and shills has hated this worthless piece of shit since. even fucking tassi.people tried it but its the epitome of a minikuk viable product, 3 maps, sometimes 4, for 40 dollars? microtransactions on top? quirky ugly heroes? nah, eat shit. the writing was on the wall ever since they unveiled the genre. nobody bought a 800 usd ps5 to play live service garbage, and thus this greedy worthless piece of shit came out stillborn.
>>738061047Ampere
>>738061498Who? Where's sony/bungie official announcement?
>>738030875People still pretending they bungie name has any clout after years of watching them go giga-jew with destiny 1 and 2 is so funny to me. The only people who still hace respect for bungie are goddamn battered housewives
>>738061548Right here brother >>738060537, the one and only official number.
>>738055254>no data or proofdelusional snoy copium, SIE makes less than 300 millions per month and currently they make ps5 at loss, they need gta 6 to release this year if they want to please their greedy investors
>>738061558*trannies from gcjeven lessetera hates them lmfao
>>738030875>Marathon doomers so fucking assblastes by the 2.2m launch sales news they need to rehash a year old news from some Final Fantasy dude talking about dead IPs (lol the fucking irony)
>>738061737Every reddit with "circle jerk" in the name IS just a bunch of battered housewives. Gcj are just battered housewives for the games industry as a whole
>>738061745>2.1 millionnow that is simply unbelievable. especially with 5 minute+ wait times.
>>738060220Yeah Marathon probably can't survive f2p. There's zero fucking power to go m monetize.
>>738061745>(lol the fucking irony)the current final fantasy live service props up an entire company. don't be a retard.
>>738059953Reputation well deserved, bungie had SEVEN (known) separate incidents of art theft, from one concept image to fucking art station full portfolio copypastas by multiple artists on dev team, this shit is systematic within the studio and they reap what the sow
>>738061745Watchable
>>738063036impossible how would they achieve that without bungies expertise
>>738063202wow hes having a blast
>>738030875Trailer model for that chick looks cute. Wasted on generic Gaas garbo.
>>738063036And it's dying, your point?
>>738063492Evercold reignited the hypeMarathon couldn't save bungie lol
>>7380628395 minute wait times weren't a thing for the first month. They are still not a thing for me right now, even.
>>738038561The sky box looks nice.
>>738063781YeahBut you aren't look at that majority of the time doofus
>>738052753voidbreaker
>>738063842colorblind people shouldnt do game color schemes wtf
>>738031761Are there unironically any normalfags who still listen to """journalist""" reviews?
>>738041208jesas D2... i heard it was bad but i didn't know it was actually officially certified Over™.
>marathon thread>no vandal or thief bouncing on it...
>>738063630>Evercold reignited the hype You are fucking delusional>Marathon couldn't save bungie lolBungie doesn't need saving. Marathon has already sold millions and has a strong following, and they already decided to dump D2 to free developers for the next project and Marathon later season, that are 4, already factored in budget and free for at least a year. Ff14 is a dying project and Evercold hype will be met with a resounding meh and players leaving just like Dawntrail.Marathon has all the cards to grow, but how many will shell out extra money for Evercold which is 5 months away?
>>738062839>especially with 5 minute+ wait times.Never played the game award
>>738039398>Nobody is advertising products on the internetIt's called viral marketing retard.
>2 months of release >No sales announcement >But they did announce discord membersLol. Oh and don't forget that the game has been on sale multiple times already
>>738031761Nobody who played Marathon wanted an extraction shooter, and nobody who wanted an extraction shooter cared that it was Marathon-themed. They could've made more Marathon-themed not-Halo games instead and it still would've been better than this GaaS pigshit.
>>738064314Marathon had a constant daily peak of 20k players for a whole entire month. There's no sign of it dropping further even though we are 30 days from season 2You lost
>>738064350The old Marathon fanbase is less than the current player count to be desu
>>738063630People used to say the same about Dawntrail lol
>>738064383wow...20k...so many players......
>>738064235>marathon has already sold millionsMarathon already has 400k discord memebers* FTFYEvercold won't be like yawntrail because they are fixing alot of problems that came from dawn trail and they fired the story nigga aswell so we are gonna get a kinobringers level of expansion
>>738064383? The player count hasn't hit 20k in over a week
>>738064587That's just the certified steam numbers, and half the sales are split consoles, also according to AsperaThe game has queue times of 20 seconds to 40 seconds. The notion that it's a dying game is only shared by spergs that don't have the game at all
>>738064589did they get rid of the tranny catgirl? dawntrauls story was so bad, the whole story dept should be embarassed, dont fucking out trannies in things retards, nobody plays final fantasy for fucking maam bullshit.
>>738064383>No signs of it dropping further It hasn't hit 20k since last Sunday.
>>738064587>wow...20k...so many players......Literally than all f2p ff14 playerbase lole
It feels like the shill is using Chatgtp for his posts
Siva won
it's dead, Jim, i ain't waiting 12 hours for NA peak to have < 8 minute queue just to be matched with kangaroo and brazilian
>>738064716SIVA NO DONT RAPE BUNGIE...
>>738030875Goodness gracious, how could this've happened?!
>>738064731Doesn't have the game award
>>738064753We get it Tahnit, you're mindbroken
>>738038674Hmm gonna listen me some Chickenfoot™>Inb4 didn't read, either kys, get help or congratulations
>>738061737I've seen a legit awakening from trannyset era. Everything surrounding Marathon was so abysmal there were legit dozens of chud converts denouncing the forums as fucking lunatics (before being banned of course)
>>738064812>tahnit is the same guy who praises marathon for having porn
>>738030875>"This has raised concerns among fans">Fans>BungieWhen did they last make a game that wasn't esl-tier dogshit
>>738064716/dg/ rapeposted so much that the jannies killed the thread
>>7380648622026
>>738064753i don't anymore, uninstalled today
>>738064878You can't stop what was already set in motionGenerating rapementum
>>738064862Halo 3
>>738064939You never had it, that error message pops up for invalid searches like trying to use rook for sponsored queueNigger
Why does Bungie attract such cult like fans?
>>738064846of course
>>738064601>Uhhhh akthually it's 19.894 not 20k
>>738064862>esl-tierThat's most of the planet. What are you trying to say by this?
>>738065049The people who play derive from content creatorsThe content creator hiveminds love what they play no matter what aslong as the content creator they like plays it. Bungie adores their content creators and will do anything to satisfy their needs
>>738064961Honestly. /dg/sperg... All this talk about rape sounds like projection
>>738030970Perhaps they should have funneled the resources spent on pointless hype generation into making a better game.Just make something fun and people will come.No need to burn millions on marketing.
>>738065181What is "fun"?
>>738065093>Um actually you're right T-thanks?
>>738065171Well to be fair bungshill we were raped by bungieNow we will rape (You) by doing nothing
>>738064686could you repeat that in english?
>>738065242Doing nothing in your f2p capeshit as Marathon gets 4 season of content? Sounds about right
>>738030970wasn't Concord like this too? holy shit.
>>738065230extraction slop isn't so lets start from there
>>738065303But I'm having fun.
>>738065283>xe thinks we play destiny 2Delusional bungshill>4 seasonsYou'd be lucky to get a season 3 at this point kek
>>738065303Sounds like skill issue, have you tried getting gud?
>>738064383Forsaken has had more daily concurrent players on its lowest
>>738065342Screenshotting this post for my future amysement, /dg/kekI hope there's a mid Destiny 3 in 10 years to laugh at (You) if you didn't kys in the meantime
>>738031761>>glowing reviewspaid reviews>>good gameplayextraction shooter #596553>>from famous developersfrom bungie lol
>>738065430>>>glowing reviews >paid reviews In the sense that they actually paid the game and played it?
>>738065283lol"content" imagine calling a single night time map and character "content"lmao, even
>>738065230mewgenics is more fun than marathon for fuck's sake
>>738031761Reviewing a game with less than 50-100 played should be illegal. In the same way food is regulated, gameplay impressions below that length should have to be called just that - impressions. Devs hunting positive journo first impressions and front loading games is hurting gaming and even gaming critique as a whole. There would be no need for access media if """reviewers""" were required to actually play the game.
>>738065327we are all having fun really but its more due to the whole everythings fun with friends effect, i mean i come check these breads to laugh at the memes and player numbers, and the poir retards that spent 40 on this ugly detergent coded flopim going to miss it when its finally shut down.oh man i cant wait for the layoffs>>738065363ehhhhh i dont play them to begin with >>738065342if s2 wasn't about to happen id think even 2 seasons would be a lot lmao. i want to see the reset
>>738065491no, in the sense that there isn't a single big name review company who is honest about AAA games because negative reviews mean getting blacklisted from receiving early copies and other such special treatment, which hurts their business as "journalists"
>>738065093It fucking dropped below 16k on Wednesday
>>738065427There's no saving you bungshill but I imagine soon enough your eyes will open and you will realize you were raped by bungie
>>738065602>it stabilized at 20k>15k 24 hour peak
>>738063695>>738064284I touched a nerve, eh? 7k active players but 2.2 million copies sold? thats a refund rate of nearly 90%.
>>738065719That 2.2 million was made up by delusional shills btw
>>738065283>4 seasons of contentBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!The Marakek thinks he is getting anything after Season 2!
>>738065716remember when youd say it was holding at 60k? then 40k? then 30k? are you gonna still act like this at 10k then eos?
>>738065753I know. its just fun to make fun of retards.
>>738065716This is the third time the player count "stabilized". The articles were written around 40k and now we're here
Are they expecting CoD tier sales or something
>>738059843>My dad works at MaratronNoone cares, nerd
>>738030964maratranny shills BTFO'd
>>738065551>Sony decides they're going to try and create a game imitating MewgenicsHow do they fuck it up?
>>738065835You just dont get it, the game is too good and hardcore for people to keep playing it. They need to take frequent year long breaks for the dopamine receptors in their heads to reset
Why is sony so awful at making games for their console?
>>738065929I accept your concession, fag.My dad would easily rape yours as well.
>Stabilizing >Still losing a minimum of 3k players a week when its peak is now 17k Lmaooo
>>738066070Sony died when they relocated to Trannyfornia
>>738065968>mutations are sold as bundles>later acts are locked behind season passes>they make the pride flags and the sexuality/genders of the cats the main focus, somehow>the story is poorly written, incoherent, and insufferable like a millennial from tumblr instead of a millennial from newgrounds>generic modern box UI, and somehow turn the house management from tedious to terrible
>>738066090Can't hear you with all that bungie dick in your mouth boy, speak up
I LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE MARATHON AND STAAARRR WWWAAAAARRRRRSSSS
>>738065996bro. the blasts are so good, the people cant handle them. it just ruins other games, and by extention itself, with the jaw dropping experience it gives players. theres literally no other possible scenario.
Why did it flop?
>still obsessing over marathon in may 2026
What the industry will learn from the failure of ugly woke slop: Stop taking risks on art directionWhat the industry needs to learn from the failure of ugly woke slop: Stop taking risks on candidates who's ideas of interesting include gay bars, feminist rallies, and talking about their feelings
>>738067610You mean it further reinforces making videogames that are enjoyed by as large of a demographic as possible because anything else loses money.10 more years of slop.
>>738067992No, I mean that everything being shit is a direct product of the fags and women (and their beta enablers) who have been placed into positions of authority all over the industry and that there's no fixing things until they're gone. They're not up to the job even if they try, and they won't, because the standards and practices of the modern industry are literally what they want the industry to be.Unless you're an extreme outlier case, normal heterosexual guys will make up the bulk of the customer base for your videogame. Even for those outliers, in most cases, it's still male customers who actually launch the franchise. You need people who are able and willing to make things that excite, intrigue, and relax a male audience. You definitely don't need people who see male customers as a problem to be contained and controlled.
>>738065996>>738066474bot tier upvotes
>>738069508they're literally sarcastic in the most obvious way possible.
>>738030970Well they didn't reach me or anyone I know. Only reason I knew about this game was because anons on here couldn't shut the fuck up about it.
>>738069508>>738069727oh no im dead serious. the game is just so mind blowingly fun that the majority of audiences are doing themselves a favor by not playing. it will absolutely ruin any enjoyment in any game possible, which includes itself. you would be doing yourself a disservice by ruining all further gaming experiences by playing marathon. youll be took taken in to remember how to play anything. bungie just made the perfect level like in my favorite show, rick and morty. (after rapists Roland left, of course)
>>738070127Like anon said, they spend a lot on marketing. Shills made threads here too
>>738070127>post #34534 of anon thinking game marketing doesn't exist because he spends all day on 4chan and has 10 different ad blocker extensions
I just took a big fat wet shitIt felt like a waterfall coming from my ass
>>738070337>point out marketing was inneffective>random seethe about you using an adblocker instead of 4chan premiumShalom
>>738070412You just said in your post you learned about marathon here, the marketing worked
>>738070729That's not my post, and the only thing I learned about marathon from here is that they stole art assets, that the playercount is abyssmal and keeps dropping and that all their previous games were mismanaged and scammed the playerbase in one way or another. All of those gave me good reason to never play the game, so if that's the marketing then it failed
chuds wonwestern AAA lost
How mindraped do you have to be to still support Bungie in current year
>>738065230a buzzword for when you can't actually think of any real reasons as to why a game is good.
>>738067564>still obsessing over people obsessed with marathonlol
>>738070337>10 different ad blocker extensionsskill issue on their part if they fail to market to me. sonys marketing is so bad that im sure there a people that own a playstation and dont even know that slop like saros even exists. they just send games out to die now, no wonder all their studios are getting closed
>>738054167>Sony prints hundreds of millions of dollars a day by simply existing.the company that had to raise prices on consoles is somehow ok with never getting a return on a 3.6 billion investment lol, lmao even
Why didn't they just make a game like Halo
>>738074626Halo doesnt inspire trans people so bungie doesnt want anything to do with it
>>738065558It’s madness how people were actually bringing up the overwhelming positive rating as some kind of valid talking point when the grand majority of reviews were from 30 minutes of playtime accounts calling it the best shit ever
>>738072935we just saw the concord tax i dont want to see the maratax
>>738031034
>>738074626they did, but culture warrior shut incels have way too much time on their hands and got autistically fixated and became anti-shills (the exact same thing as shills but inverse)the best part? they literally do it for free!
>>738075139Average user score is one of the most useless metrics ever invented, might as well just look at journalists shilling itI like reading negative reviews to see all the downsides
The short film from Love Death Robots and the Ozymandias poem trailer (which was supposed to be the voice of Durandal, I think?) showed some potential. Potential for a somber/contemplative Dark-Souls-but-FPS game.Unfortunately that's not what we recieved.
>>738076216>Dark-Souls-but-FPSnigga are you for real
>>738076314>>738076216I have no clue what you guys are talking about but I'll just mention Remnant 2It's third person but I will take any opportunity to shill it
>>738076314Niggerjeet yes.
>>738076367One of the worst soulslikes I played, same with first game
>>738076216That also had PVE as half the threat.>>738075139An overwhelmingly negative user score is actually useful, as it's pretty much guaranteed crap, OR some angry chinese fuckers. Overwhelmingly positive is too easy to bot or buy. The fact that people gave it a positive review and then abandoned it is a death sign for the game.
>>738072935I saw saaros first with that photoshopped train shitpost and though it was just some garbage pol made up. >>738074626They don't have the people who CAN make halo anymore.
>>738074626Eh, best they can do is remove some more destiny 2 content.
>>738075369Whether it's games, movies, or restaurants - positive reviews are almost always completely useless. I sort by negative and then read up about the problems with the product or service and then decide if im willing to live with those. Some fag saying I LOVED IT has never helped me with anything even once in my life because it's already printed on the back of the box or boasted about in the trailers by the producers of the product/service themselves. I wish feedback of this nature would just disappear so at least they'd have to mention actual problems in the bot reviews.
>day old thread on /v/ about an AIslop facebook account/v/ is dead and you killed it
>>738034016>and this is a AAAA gameLOL says fucking who?
After having played Marathon for 10 hours today, I'm no longer worried about its future. I think that everything is going to be alright.
>>738075139What people are quietly ignoring about Marathon's high review scores is that the server slam pre-emptively filtered out everyone who hated the game. Before Sony deleted it, the PS5's server slam ratings were 40% 1 star. Obviously, those people chose not to buy the full release.
>>738037279Destiny is basically over lore-wise unless they do a massive time skip.
>>738044875Hunt is actually unique, it's technically an extraction shooter but it plays very differently from Tarkov and its clones. If you want to play something like Hunt that is not Hunt you literally can't.Marathon is a lot closer to Tarkov in comparison.
>>738076939even an indian clock is right twice a day
>>738071950kurppahosk employees.
>>738037279>another ten years of turbo cringe millenial yap writing with queer robots wearing dress gownsdestiny fags need to get a life
>>738070729>all publicity is good publicityhow'd that work for epstein
>>738030964so how bout that?
>>738033501>namefag opinion
>>738076939Pic is low quality, but it's not as if he's directly advertising the account. Here's the originating articles. I think you're just simping for the game personally, but no big deal in any dirction. The ex marketing director thinks they should have spent more on above the line marketing..https://www.thegamer.com/marathon-lack-of-marketing-square-enix-former-exec-cites/https://www.gamesradar.com/games/fps/sonys-lack-of-marketing-push-on-marathon-speaks-to-the-lack-of-faith-from-the-platform-holder-says-former-square-enix-exec/
>>738077545Nobody gives a shit, jeet, cope however you need
>>738077684This thread's going to bump limit, and would have even if you had hidden and ignored. If I actually gave a fuck, I'd make another thread, with more direct, accurate unjeeted sourcing, just to piss you off.
>>738077889Will it take a literal entire day to get to the bump limit like this one? Will you similarly have to self-bump your thread every 15 minutes? Good thing you aren't paid for engagement, Sardeep, cuz idk if you'd be able to feed any mouths with the job you're doing
>>738078197You made a dumb wrong claim trying to write off the original post. When faced with a direct contradiction, you tried to deflect to irrelevance. And now you're trying to say the thread is just samefagged. I don't think you're even a real pol class racist. I would bet more that you're kurppahosk who is willing to do or say anything to try to minimize or move bad news about marathon. A quick check of other threads in the catalog that have far more of the shit you say you have, and what a surprise, it's only this one.Regardless, you've stamped your own forehead with a "please troll my roody poo ass" on it.
>>738077889you're a literal anti-shill who does it for freepathetic
>>738078641Lmao nobody gives a shit, jeet. Wanna know how I know you're a jeet? You care this fucking much about the "engagement" of your AIslop bait thread.
>>738077394I bumped the thread at the time and saved it.
>>738078764>>738078806You glow like the terrible marketer you are. No understanding of the neighborhood to even insult people correctly. See you next thread.
SAAR DO NOT INSULT THE MARATHONS BLOODY BITCH BASTARDS
>>738030875>$3 500 000 000 + retention bonus + marathon
>>738038735Who is this girl?
>>738031761Extraction shooters fuckin suck, and this is coming from an autist who played 500 hours of tarkov.It's a really niche genre with an insanely tiny market that is already captured by tarkov, arc and huntThis game would be massive if they released it the same way as destinyOnline, sp with raids The extraction shooter mode should be just a mode in the game not the whole thing.It sucks because it's a really well made game that got wasted in a shitty genre
