Is it really that good?
Better than Mass Effect 3, that's for damn sure.
>>738035735The worst in the series. 3 > 1 > 2
>>738035735No the entire game is a shitty side quest that the universe didn't even notice. Also>wouldn't it be cool if reapers made a human-shaped reaper for no reason
>>7380358311 = 2 >> MEA > 33 destroyed the lore and the franchise, and even the "good" parts of 3 feel like cheesy self-inventions rather than earned conclusions. At least MEA is so far-removed that nothing about it is destructive and you can just enjoy it for the stinky middling game it is. No amount of shooter gameplay improvements to ME3 can change the way it made me feel about the missed potential of the trilogy, and how far it goes out of its way to abandon the Space Mystery tone of ME1/2, which for all their stylistic difference are still spiritually connected in ways 3 just isn't.
>>738035735It's underrated and ME1 is overrated
>>738036036>No amount of shooter gameplay improvements to ME3 can change the way it made me feel about the missed potential of the trilogyThose gameplay improvements made the combat actually fun.
>>738036062Sometimes it's all about vibes. In ME2 you're roleplaying an action hero in a slick Action Sci Fi TV show, and chatting up a babe with a great ass, as you contemplate galactic perils and go on cool missions together.And nothing about ME1 has that vibe. And ME3 is too "Michael Bay" and emo to have the same level of satisfying "cool" that ME2 has.
>>738036215ME3 has better controls and worse encounter designME2 has worse controls (but better than 1) and better encounter design and map layoutsME1 has stinky controls and encounters but there's a whole RPG system that you stay invested in.In the end I like 3 the least. There's 20 other Third Person Shooters with "Competent Controls" I could go and play, which don't do any of the actually cool things the Mass Effect series does, that isn't the combat.
>>738036036>MEA > 3No fucking way. Andromeda completely shat on every single aspect of the lore. 3's plot is contrived as hell and the ending introduces absolute bullshit that doesn't fit the setting at all, but it's not contradictory with the first two games, just retarded in how it implements everything. Andromeda erased all the differences between aliens, shat over how AI is treated in the setting, introduced fucking gender-fluid asari and girlboss krogan, and squandered anything that could possibly be interesting with that dogshit setting.I get that 3 was the bigger disappointment but people who think it's in any way worse than Andromeda are delusional.
3 might be worse than j*p*n*s* games.
>>7380363313 shits on every central plot point that had any potential of becoming anything more than just a plot "point", and ended with a fart that admitted they lost track of what story they were even trying to tell anymore.MEA at least is a standalone narrative that, for as much as it plays loose with physics and lore from the other games, is fine in its own extragalactic depiction of something, and then it has an ending that answers to the premise, and some moments that are actually nice to explore throughout.3 is a much more destructive experience to the brand than MEA will ever be. And not just the ending, and not because "2 left it with nothing." Mac Walters didn't know what he was doing on ME3, only the other writers were able to come up with something that in a token sense addressed it being a conclusive arc, and the rest was just wannabe Sixth Sense, Michael Bay, "Hollywood" crap that didn't fit the series. Unlike the first game, the references to other movies didn't congeal with the integrity of its own narrative. In 3, the narrative disappears and gets replaced with hollow hollywood callbacks and you're left scratching your head about it.
Its a great game. I should replay it desu.
>>738035735It's one your brain has to be shifted on to really enjoy it. If you're a journey not the destination kind of guy where you're more into hanging out with the characters and exploring and interacting with the world you'll probably like it.
Mass Effect 2 is the strongest inclusion to the series. And it being a side-adventure to the Reaper shit was good, actually. It did immeasurable good for the setting's worldbuilding and identity that 1 simply fell short on. It was the funniest, most charming, most intelligent Mass Effect.
>>738036879The things I imagine Samara doing to my femshep...
>>738036036>andromedanigga you gay as fuck
>>738037496I think you're trying too hard to bait 1fags with this post but you are right that ignoring the Reaper plot is a positive cause the Reapers and the promise you're going to fight them at the end of 1 is what doomed everything and Mass Effect should have been just these adventures on the Normandy solving threats to galactic peace.
>>738035735It's okay, but a fairly big step down in most aspects compared to 1. Did handle companions better to be fair. God awful gameplay though.
It had a lot of flaws but it had a lot of downsides too>soulless ammo and inventory system more reminiscent of Halo (as usual) than anything trying to be original>universal skills cooldown really sucks>abilities are much cooler though, even if companions and you individually have less>much more cinematic game>greater scenario and setpieces>gore was cooler when there was>Absolute SEX that were the specialist weapons>Suicide mission was cool>companions generally better and more charismatic, confrontations were more dynamic and interesting>no actual lore raping going on yetThe only downsides was it turned into Call of Duty the RPG and with a lot less of a focus on RPG, but oh well. I blame that generation of games and especially EA for that
2 is the best game overall in the series. Its main story definitely isn't as good as 1 but the recruitment and loyalty missions are a lot of fun with many really expanding the lore (especially Grunt, Mordin, Legion and Tali). It also has the best gameplay in the series. ME1 is very clunky and 3 is too light with its leaping around and fast jerky motions nonsense. ME2 makes you feel heavy when you slam into cover. 1 and 2 are extremely replayable and differ perfectly to make the transition from 1 to 2 feel like a progression rather than that you're playing the same game again (see Death Stranding 1 and 2).
>>738035735No. They basically made gears of war mass effect edition, without being as good as gears of war or as story rich as ME1
>>738035735no. 1 has better everything except cover shooting gameplay. every single other element of the gameplay is better in 1. its a narrative driven series, so 3 is the worst by far as the story is irredeemable trash
>738035831Shit bait>>738036036Don't feed the troll, you stupid girl
>>738039027>Don't feed the troll, you stupid girlIn no world is 3 better than 1 or 2. That's all I'm saying. And I'm tired of all these ME3 dipshits on every internet-site claiming it's "actually the best game" when it was a disappointing piece of shit from start to finish.
>>738035735The loyalty missions (well most of them) and the suicide mission are genuinely great, but other than that I dunno. It's in this weird middle ground where they wanted to chase after the run and gun shooter crowd while also trying to keep the rpg audience it had already cultivated, but the lack of commitment to either side puts it in this awkward position where it doesn't really do either really well; 1, despite playing like ass, is a genuine rpg game and 3, despite bastardizing any remaining rpg element the series had, at least plays really well from a gameplay/action shooter perspective. You can argue that 3 is the worst game for completely failing as an rpg and shitting all over the story and lore and shit, and yeah I'd agree, but as a game I think it plays better than 2 which makes it more fun. Regardless, what 2 does well it does really well, but if you want a real rpg game you play 1 and if you want some action shooter you can turn your brain off to you play 3.
>>738035735It has no cute white girls in it except Miranda and Becky Chambers.
>>738035735>Is it really that good?Combat is the best of the 3. Individual missions are great and tell fun stories. The squad your recruit are all pretty interesting.But, the main story is bad, it forces you into decisions you wouldn't want to make, characters from the original game act bizarrely (Liara) and the final boss is silly.Still probably my favorite of the 3. ME1's story is the best by a wide margin; but ME2's gameplay and the large variety of fun side missions egde it to the top.
>>738041469Based
>>738035735No. It's baby's first third person cover shooter, with shitty mechanics that don't do anything that other third person shooters and cover shooters of the time didn't already do better. Levels are small, linear, and boring. Upgrades are uninspired and don't change or alter gameplay. The entire story is basically, "Let's assemble a team while completely forgetting about the first game and the supposed overarching threat until the last minute, and then in the next game we'll just pretend that this game pretty much just didn't even happen, which is fitting because we're pretty much acting as if the first game never happened." The "long term choice and consequence" that people lament being ignored in the 3rd game actually started in ME2.It's trash. People like it because they want to ship the characters, or they are so starved for feelings of friendship and camaraderie that they latch onto the weak, milquetoast companion characters so they can feel that their lives are empty.
>>738035735No, people just liked the daddy issue side quests with all the squad mates.
>>738041469Nigga you gay.>>738042076>I can't aim: the post
>>738035735yeah
>>7380357351>2>3I don't care if the RPG and combat mechanics were easily broken, it felt a lot better than the more FPS focused cover shooter 2 and 3 turned into. 1 overall did the best job of immersing you in the setting.2 still has a lot of merit. 3 was alright even in consideration of the ending. I don't feel like assigning numbers but they would all be high with 2 a little lower then 1 and 3 maybe a point to a point and a half lower than that.
>>738044667>FPSTPS* but you know what I mean.
>>738035735>that goodIt derailed the entire franchise and effectively killed Mass Effect, so no.>738035787 (You)
>>738044667It's third person real time turn based FPS with 3d sprites and 2d models.
>>738035735Its Ocean's Eleven in space and the best ME entry. 1 tries to be too serious and 3 tries to appeal to normies too much.
>>738035735Yes it's the best ME game.
>>738041678>Combat is the best of the 3That's just objectively not true. There's a reason ME3's MP is still being played almost a decade and a half since it came out and it sure isn't because it gave anons a multiplier to galaxy readiness points.The rest you've wrote I generally agree with.
>>738035735>Is it really that bad?Yep.
Just finished 1, went soldiergonna start 2, should I go soldier again?
>>73803603690% of the reason 3 is so bad is that it needed to progress the reaper narrative and general state of the galaxy and then wrap both of them up because 2 did absolutely fucking nothing but action movie bullshit that was cool and funny and also totally hollow. Nearly every single valid criticism of 3 can be tied back to something that either should have been addressed in 2 or was addressed in an unsatisfying and or nonsensical way.
>>738049279Meh. I enjoyed ME2 Vanguard more than easy peasy nova>charge>nova>charge>nova>charge with 1 second cooldowns.
>>738049675For 2 and 3, Vanguard is the most fun class. And I say this as a long time Infiltrator.
>>7380470572 is when they dumbed everything down and stopped trusting the audience to be attracted to a woman in remotely normal clothing.
>>738035735Yes. But it probably helps if you see it as a standalone game and pretend the third one doesn't exist. One and two are both great in their own ways.
When I finished ME1 I was so struck that it had been something special.I enjoyed 2. It is a bit of a side quest, but it's important what your team does. The Suicide Mission was an interesting dynamic. But a lot of it was more running and gunning.I've just realized I never ever played 3. I was so struck by the first one. Should I or is it better this way.
>>738035831Contrarian brainlet take. ME3 is god awful trash.
>>7380512543 is depressing doom and gloom all the way through. Like a large cloud over everything.The combat is excellent. The story and conclusion is pretty bad.Play it, just so you can put it to rest.
>>738036036>1 = 2 >> MEA > 3ME1 = ME2 >> MEA > horseshit > dogshit diarrhea > HIV > cancer >> ME3 Fixed that for you.
Don’t even bother with Mass Effect 3. Really. It’s more fun to go with whatever you imagined.
>>738036036Why the fuck would you even mention MEA in this thread you fucking degenerate.Have some fucking class....
>>738049279Mass Effect 2 didn’t have online multiplayer so the comparison here doesn’t make sense.
>>738051254Same. I liked 2 more but it was a shooter well 1 was a soulful rpg.3 wasn't that bad, just worse than the rest. DLC is 11/10 though. It was the only thing that lived up to the hype this snoy had heard for a decade.
>>738035735Mass Effect threads always devolve into discussion about how terrible ME3 is. Put in simple terms, ME3 is the biggest disappointment in video game history. Bioware never recovered from the ME3 fiasco and they never will.
>>738036215ME series combat went from 2/10 to 4/10. With mass effect 1 you play it for the story and exploration and find a way to cheese the combat. With mass effect 3 the combat is the best part and it still isnt good.
>>738035735It's good. BUThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7ymcb1Zk8
>>738035735No, 1 is better, but 1 isn't perfect either. This is wasted potential: the series. Don't listen to 3 praises, they are all retarded or lying.
>>738052318I like what was built around the combat of 1 more than any aspect of the combat in 2 and 3. 2 and 3 had 'better' actual combat but it was more generic and uninteresting.
>>738035735>look up suicide mission ost on yt>suicide prevention hotline pops uplol
>>738049279>There's a reason ME3's MP is still being played almost a decade and a half since it came out and it sure isn't because it gave anons a multiplier to galaxy readiness points.ME3's multiplayer was fun; but it came at the expense of the single player. The mechanics in ME3 are all built around the multiplayer. My soldier can't carry one of every weapon type any more because of multiplayer which killed the novelty of the class. The enemies are all built around mobility and assaulting, flanking and charging the player because that's what the multiplayer scenarios are like.In ME2 you get unique encounters that are clearly designed around the terrain in that particular spot in the mission while in ME3 the combat encounters all feel like something I'd see in a multiplayer match. In ME2 I could plan out a strategy, move my squad into a flanking position and outmaneuver the enemy. In ME3 the enemies never sit still so you can't develop a strategy, they're always assaulting you all the time and every combat encounter feels vaguely the same.
>>7380357352>1>3
>>738035735Yeah, easily the best in the series. Mass effect 1 is good as well but the story suffered a lot because it was used to build up the sequels but the ending was so bad. 2 has a self contained story and more polished gameplay, but it ends up playing more like an action game than an rpg sometimes.
>>738035831>>738036036they only ever made one Mass Effect game3's got good multiplayer though
>>738035735It's an re4 situation, it was good for its time. Gears cover shooter gameplay is a terribly dated fad.
>>738035735Mass Effect is 19 years old, what does it say about the absolute state of gaming people are still talking about this series?
>>7380357353 > 2 > 1
>>738052238If any of you zooms were too young, you had to be there. New trollface cancer in to tortanic, in to ME3 in to gamergate. Felt like the death of the internet.
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>>738035735ME2 had the best Normandy
>>738035735yea it was pretty goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsD2FjmLsw&rco=1also genociding batarians was funhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6Ev-7-5N5k
>>738035735I think an underrated aspect of ME2 is how much it does flesh out the setting of Mass Effect. ME1 has the much better Citadel, but aside from Port Hanshan it is more about the sparsely populated frontier colonies and outposts due to graphical limitations. ME3 doesn't have them, but now the whole game is focused around the Reaper War so everything is bombed out rubble until the Citadel DLC gives you whiplash. ME2 shows us the inside of a Reaper, a Geth ship, 4 distinct cityscapes, the insect hive Collector ships. You get one DLC where you're doing a James Bond thing and another where you go to a ship suspended in a perpetual storm.
>>738051940t. Tranny that plays games for "le story" and doesnt care about the gamplayAKA one of the worst kinds of gamers ever. That is why we're getting movieslop game these days, because of subhumans like you.
>>738056320But to be fair, RPGs have had shitty gameplay from the beginning. They're literally designed for people who can't play football (real football, not soccer).
Ok, ill bite, whats the most fun me1 class? Havent played it.
>>738035735I used to think so but the suicide mission does all the heavy lifting. From a gameplay perspective, 3 is better, and 1 has the best story and world building.
>>738050652>I enjoyed ME2 Vanguard moreThe one where you don't even get to use your charge for most encounters because enemies are either on spots you're not allowed to reach or the charge just doesn't fucking work? Vanguard is the absolute worst class to take through the trilogy, its only good in 3's gameplay.
>>738057739Any of the biotic classes for physics shenanigans. Shields and barriers don't block biotic power effects in 1 so you can do some goofy shit like using throw on (non-static) containers and shit to crush any poor bastard taking cover behind it and stuff, or just bully the fuck out of any miniboss Krogan encounter. And since throw, lift and singularity can be taken as bonus powers in 1 you can pretty much play as any class you want once you have them unlocked for further saves.
>>738056019That's a great post, anon. Whenever I shitposted about ME 1 vs 2 over the years, I exclusively talked about story and combat. Have never thought about this aspect of it. All the well-known ME locations and sidequests are from 2.Feels like ME1 is another KotOR location-wise whereas ME2 is its own thing finally
>>738035735It's not. I remember playing it right after 1, where you played through the epic struggle of saving the universe against the reapers.Guess, what? Now there's a brand new saturday morning cartoon villain in town, the Collectors, who are some sort of bug people.I remember immediately being disappointed that they didn't continue the story but essentially built a new sidequest villain, but okay, lets see what happens. The bad guys are just as threatening this time around, turning people not into robots but brown goo, and the universe is on the brink of extinction I guess.So what do we do? We ignore the threat and spend our time fucking about doing sidequests recruiting NPCs to our team. I mean, cool, when does the main story begin?Finally after doing enough sidequests, the bad guys are back, and we can fight them, the game can begin.. Then the you fly immediately to the enemy HQ, blow shit up, and the game is over.. That was it?Also the whole premise of the story is fucking stupid. Shepherd gets reincarnated by the Illusive Man (who is indoctrinated by the Reapers), to fight the Collectors(who are indoctrinated by the Reapers).But Shepherd is somehow not only not indoctrinated despite being rebuilt from the cells up, but ends up actually killing his boss and defeating them.
>>738059816>Illusive Man (who is indoctrinated by the Reapers),Wrong. Good job getting filtered, midwit
>>738057964>Vanguard is the absolute worst class to take through the trilogyWhat a crock of a complete fucking bullshit, all biotic classes in ME1 are easy mode
>>738060057In 3 too. In 2 Vanguard is kinda "hard" in that it's easy to charge into a group of enemies and die like a retard, but it's definitely the only fun classAlways assuming you play on insanity of course, otherwise it's all easy
>>738035735>>738035787no it's the worst one BY FAR
>>7380357351>3>2 for me, but they are all great
>>738035735no 1 is miles better
>>738056019>how much it does flesh out the setting of Mass Effect.What it adds other than visuals is completely retarded though.
>>738059925what do you mean? It was clearly the in-setting copout for writers, for why the 'humanity first' faction is actually bad, not good, that they're actually being controlled by the Big Bad
>>738035735>ME1Interesting but repetitive, mid and bare bones as an RPG.>ME2Overrated trashy generic corridor cover shooter with an side mission as it's whole story, that people claimed for years, to be in the "top 10 best RPG's of all time" despite having no RPG system.>ME3Trashy generic cover shooter with an mid story and a shit ending.
>>738052401ME3 is a very good game."muh story" fags ruin gaming.These are video games, not movies, shows, or books.
>>738060625the textures on this thing look ugly as fuck
>>738035735It's the best game in the franchise and it isn't even close.
>>738036036I agree. While Andromeda was really bad I would rather replay that than 3.
>>738036295>but there's a whole RPG system that you stay invested in.Absolute crap. ME2 is more of a RPG than 1 would ever be. In 1 virtually all classes are identical with no distinguishable abilities (except adept) and the combat system is entirely based on weapon mods of which there is practically 1 relevant one. Wide as the ocean, deep as a puddle
>>738060625You seem hard of enjoying things. To me your comparisons are true but 1 and 2 are enjoyable for being what they are and not "mid" because of it. They both feel mid at times but their respective finales elevate them and key moments makes you more invested in the entire endeavour.3 delivers on high stakes but can feel a little overwrought and phony at times. I didn't enjoy it when the corridor shooter aspect didn't retain enough of the other elements from 2, so yeah 3 did not live up to the established success of the series and the ending is only symptomatic of other failings in the same game imo. They lost sight of what made it good.
>>738035735I thought it was slightly disappointing after 1 but it's miles better than 3.
>>738062884no!
>>738063045>You seem hard of enjoying things.>look inside>Stop asking questions, just consome products and get excited to the next product.
>>738035735Absolutely terrible game>forgettable story that has zero impact. you can remove 2 and 3 would happen like normal>every mechanic got simplified from combat to inventory to exploration
>>738062884It isn't, but 2 retains a lot of the RPG qualties 1 started. 3 also retains the "gist" of it, but the downgrade in the conversation system is too limiting so only 1 and 2 really feel like RPGs to me.
