Do visual novels count as videojames in your eyes?
>>738039163Yes.
>>738039163No.
>>738039163Yeah sure whatever
>>738039163If you can get a game over, yes.If you just advance the dialogue with no input or effect, no.Ace Attorney and Dangan qualify, Murder on the Marine Express does not.
>class of '09blud really thinks he's apart of the team
>>738039163why the fuck did they make redditka the main villain of that and not yuri
>>738039163NoRead a book you fucking loser
>>738039163>ace attorney being featured alongside all that other garbage
>>738039163no, comics aren't games
>>738039658*blocks your path*
>>738039646Ace Attorney is the only good VN series that is mainstream so it is what it is
>>738039163>all westoidshit
>>738039163I love most of these but saying they have a good story is ridiculousexcept phoenix wright
>>738039163>redditbob
>>738039163lmfa class of 09where the fuck Clannad nigga. goddamn zooms
>>738039163yes, but ace attorney is the only good game in that image
>>738039163By default, no. However some like Phoenix Wright are games.
>>738039163Phoenix Wright is not a visual novel. It is game because it has real gameplay beyond pressing to advance text.
>>738039782has the patent expired yet? can literally anyone else use this concept?
>>738039163I don't consider detective sims visual novels, and they have a small amount of gameplay anyway.
Question for people who say yes:How do you define "game"? Not "video game", just "game".
>Looks like shit for fags and women>Looks like shit for fags and women>Ace Attorney is cool>Is for fags, furries, and women>DR is okay, fag and women fanbase though>Subversive slop for people that watch video game essays No most VNs are not games
>>738042175A paradigmatic case of what Wittgenstein called a language-game.
>>738039163This meme makes me wish more people were dead.
>>738039163Ace Attorney and Danganronpa is so well above westoid shit it's not even funny
>>738045028They were both outdone and outclassed by a Western vn.
>>738039308it's pretty funny how delusional they are
>>738040024>Capcom>westernuh huh
>>738039163Very fitting image, a mountain full of shit-filled diapers is perfectly how I'd describe DDLC
>>738042550The only games for women on there are Ace Attorney and Danganronpa. Your radar is shit.
Disco Elysium is a VN
>>738039308The inclusion of Snoot game in a very normalfag image makes me think it's bait.
>>738042175Asymptotically, this elusive word has progressed to escape definition. Formally, one might be tempted to use Frege's notation and presuppose a tautological 'winning game' and adverse 'losing game' whereupon win and loss are a mathematical 1 and 0. The kamasutra specialist has famously separated Game from a simulational game.https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1194939/whats-the-point-of-defining-gameThis is useful insofar as Skyrim, as a simulated sandbox, is separated from Checkers. The line blurried ever since The Sims as a game with no goal-at least not definite. There's perhaps an element of 'play'-the 'gameplay', and this connects Tag with Minecraft no-goals. You play a game. This gets us at the conundrum. What compels us to call the VN a non-game-is it perhaps irrational, as VN in the broadest possible sense of the word can have 1 and 0 conditions. Is a CYAO adventure a game? This question strikes into the heart of the matter. You read a book. Can you play a book? You've asked for a personal view on the matter. A person reads the book, and, feeling like there's no element of gameplay, calls it a non-game. It's a passive experience. It gets wordy and closer to a passive experience of reading. The VNs are describing someone who does something and I'm merely witnessing it. Imagine, if you will, that I pick up a CYAO novel and start reading in order, from choice 1 to 2. I've turned the branched paths into a linear path. The story of possible choices is being read. If the experience was more active, maybe, no discussion would be had. Yet some still is. I presume your answer to the CYAO novel hypothetical determines the verdict. If you feel like you're making the choices, or picking all options see what happens in a passive experience. Game or non-game.
