>"Papa, what was Smash Bros like before tbe roster faggotry?">"It was...kino my son. Pure, unfiltered, kino...."
Brawl is one of the top five greatest games ever made.
You had to be there
>>738041903>trips
pic unrelated
>chilling at 9pm when your Wii starts glowing>turn it on>message from the homie trash talking for some Brawl and Mario KartTake me the fuck back
>>738042017I forgot the wii did that whenever there was a update or notification of some kind. I'm really growing old.
>>738041817brother brawl engineered roster faggotry in the smash community.
>>738042181Brawl had sensible roster faggotry. Pac Man or Bomber ManUltimate had garbage like "BRO PUT IN SANS AND SHANTAE!!!"
Brawl was THE rosterfagging game. Everyone was hype as fuck for characters because the concept that the gameplay could be bad in a Smash game hadn't appeared yet, and the characters could be ANYTHING now that Snake was in it. And at the end of it all, Brawl's only selling point that turned out well was just the bloated roster.>but you can play extremely barebones Kirby levels with weirdly speed-capped versions of the Smash rosterLet it go
I loved it
>>738041910I remember chatting with my friends through this thing. It was wild.
>>738041817retard faggot too young to not remember japan time
>>738041817>boot up wii>put brawl disc in the wii, being sure to face the silver part toward the light when you put it in, or else there were rumors your wii would brick and start to release smoke>open up the game channel>the loudest sound in human history plays that wakes everyone in the neighborhood up and their dogs>latin opera music starts playing>select online mode>play at sixty seconds per frame, trip and lose>go to subspace emissary, play a sidescroller as kirby for 8 hours in the maze and then watch a HD cutscene of mario and samus fucking in the jungle next to rayquazah>boot up classics mode>play super mario bros 1 the original>boot up custom stage creator>create a stage that is all treadmills and one platform, set items to maximum frequency but turn off all items, sit on a platform and wait for the stickers to randomly spawn and let the treadmills carry them to you and press A repeatedly to pick them up until you collected all the stickers>use the challenge hammer to break the challenges you couldn't complete>play the crazy arcade game for shooting coins at trophies, not because you want trophies but just because the minigame is fun>boot up movies mode>watch the sonic reveal trailer>boot up smash mode>stare at mario's realistic overalls, don't even play the game>formulate theories about what new items will be in the next smash bros game, create your own theories about new characters and their final smashes>create theories about what fighting themed word the next game willbe named after, melee, brawl, rumble, etc.Yup, it's brawlin' timeLol.
looking at the hype for le nintendo cinematic universe and Kirby Air Ridershonestly the best direction for Smash to go is in more of a platformer centric single player direction with lots of fan service given in the campaign like a super sse but focus on making a single-player gameplay actually good hence more platformer centric
>>738041817the most i can remember about this game is hearing rumors about a blue borb being the meta
Unfortunately I'm actually old enough to remember all of this.With Smash 64 I never even expected them to make a second one, I just thought it was a really fun game, I actually remember liking it a lot. And I don't even know if Nintendo realized how many people liked it, they probably also assumed it was just some one time game for the N64 that would never release again until they were surprised when Melee became so popular. There was the famous Melee poll but nobody had heard of that in real life, nobody knew about the melee poll until many years later only like 300 people took the poll and nobody even knew about it for like 5 years. Everyone was surprised by how good Melee looked and it was the subject of a lot of internet rumors due to the various secrets in the game, like the black hole glitch, the 2 second luigi cutscene, the giga bowser fight, the playable master hand, and many other weird secrets. I remember people used to tell me rumors about how to get secret characters that were never even in the game, this was sort of the beginning of rosterfaggotry. But then in the years leading up to brawl, they kinda started to build hype around the roster they had that website smashbrosdojo where they would release info about new characters and stuff. Nobody cared about Smash 4 because the Wii U was a failed console, and Ultimate was certainly a massive rosterfag game that was like THE rosterfag game, so OP kinda has a point, but also not, it was a different kind of rosterfaggotry back then I suppose, it wasn't people faking their reactions, people were like actually happy that sonic and snake were in the game, for smash ultimate the rosterfaggotry was just autists overrreacting and having a meltdown about the character reveal trailers, lol.
>>738041817Do people who grew up with Brawl can even procreate ? I thought low sperm count...
>>738041910>real men use itemsKinda transphobic but ok
>>738041817>no rosterfaggotry>Up until nowThere were countless of threads on smashboards about how he wasn't coming back
>>738044220Congrats on not using reddit spacing bro, that will show them !
>>738043849It was kino
>>738044343Reddit spacing is a myth, newfag.It's made up.There's no such thing.Lol.
>>738044416to be fair those oldfag also did some reddit shit like I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER and YOU WINZ TEH INTERNETthat being said I don't really care about "reddit spacing" I never did and thought it was the most autistic shit to complain about so I'm on your side anyways
>>738044812Shut up kid
>>738041910wow that just unlocked a memorynow i'm sad
>>738044812Shut up
>>738044812>reddit shit like I CAN HAZ CHEEZEBURGER and YOU WINZ TEH INTERNET
>>738042140The Wii and the DS were the apex of Nintendo simply because they had the ability to run Gamecube and Advanced games, respectively. What made them go above and beyond was their communication. The Wii had weather, news, mail, and more, while the DS had Pictochat, IMing, and more. It was great, and retards and revisionists will kick and scream that it wasn't.
can't believe online capability was one of the prime motives to create this game and then it worked like THATfinding matches was such an unreasonable hassle. and somehow even today it's still challenging for games to have online play be just like local play. always gotta have some bullshit like forced random stages or no character select or no rematches or some other stilted rules.
>>738043754>japan timeTruly the greatest thing Sakurai ever did.
>>738045758Brawl might be the single worst online experience any game ever had.
>>738041817well son, the tryhards used fox, the gays used pikachu, the chads used kirby and jigglypuff, the desperate for attention used link, and the NPCs used mario and luigi. oh there was samus too
Snake
>>738046062Japan time with me and the boys on gamefaqs...
>>738046117Should've lived in japan
It's cool that there's an entire community of people that loved the "extra" features the Wii had that they maintain updated versions of the weather and news channels to this day
>>738041817>before tbe roster faggotry>posts the game that invented roster faggotry.....
>>738041817Smash was always dogshit.
>>738045720Those features were great. Checking the weather channel was so comfy. Fucking hate Switch's minimalistic approach, we're never ever escaping the minimalistic hell are we?
>>738044812This anon is right, and other faggotry like rage comics, fuuuuggggg :DDDDDD, and pepe were also highly cringe. It was more insufferable than 67 or whatever crap that kids say nowadays.
>>738041910Bill Trinen and Natr Bihldorff
>>738047202>disliking spürdoYou don't belong here :DDDD
>>738041910This netcode was horrible but it was still pretty fun. Mario Kart Wii came out a month later and ran “very well” in comparison.
>>738045720Switchfags hate features and will jump through hoops to act like having no features is a good thing
>>738047741Spurdo is literally the unfunniest thing I've ever seen. It's way below Reddit humor.
>>738044812Someone has not told you aren't funny in real life and it shows.
>>738042441>roster faggotry:|>roster faggotry, 2000:O
>>738048178Tell me something you find funny
>>738048804Nta but people have told me that on numerous occassionsYou're not funny either btw
>>738048915Vsauce
>>738042441In the Brawl days you had people saying they wanted Goku to be in. They also wanted Ridley just for the sake of having a second Metroid character, and now that he's in nobody gives a fuck.
I fucking resent the fact I only had fucking Wii SPORTS and WII SPORTS RESORT on the Wii.Why didn't I have any of the cool ass games like Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, Brawl? This world is fucking gay.
>>738048993>ecelebLike clockwork
>made and entire movie >stopped making movies for 20 years because everyone uploaded it to youtube i really cant tell who's the bad guy here. sure we ruin everything with social media, but should they have replaced a feature length film with fucking stickers and minigames? i want to see the smash movie. hopefully the next mario movie makes enough money so they can do it
>>738041910I was there, Brawl netcode was almost unplayable and I will not engage in nostalgiafagging over it
>>738049070Ridley is actually fun to play as. Unlike those Belmont jobbers
>during the smash 6 pre-release cycle we're going to be subject to yet another wave of geno dickridersI can't fucking wait
>>738049269My point is that Brawl was the very inception of rosterfaggotry. Geno? His rosterfaggotry dates back to Brawl's development. Now you only have people clammoring for the likes of Shrek or some Shonen character because we're scraping the bottom of the barrel of video game reps.
>>738045720Hooked up with my wife via Pictochatting with our DS’s and playing Mario kart across the building at this office we use to work at way back then
Anyone else play that 007goldeneye game on wii? Had a stupidly good and active online scene
>>738049490Ah, gotcha. You're right. I was guilty myself but I convinced myself Brawl was the final Smash game (and MGS4 was the last game in that series). Naivete then ramped up by Snake showing up. We fucked it all up.
>>738049683Never played it online but the local multiplayer was quite fun
>>738050512For me it was Isaac, but now I've played way more RPGs and Golden Sun is mid. Phoenix Wright has been my choice for a while.
>>738041910Were the people that played as Zelda that stood in one spot and only used din's fire bots?
>>738041910anyone else had to deal with taunt parties? if you tried to play the game and fight it suddenly becomes a 3v1. I do not miss brawl online
>>738045720Streetpass and Miiverse were also great. That stuff pretty much died with the Switch.
>>738050686No, but I did have to deal with people ruining my taunt party.
Realistically, what's next for Smash?The next game is not going to be Ultimate + even more characters because that's not happening.So, what's next? A reboot?I really don't care to keep playing Peach or Bowser with the same 2001 gameplay, but I know a horde of autists will screech if they dare to do anything new or overhaul their "mains"
>>738041817Brawl's netcode made it umplayable.
>>738050929I'd only accept a reboot if it focuses on a retro appeal with characters from 2001 at the latest.
>>738050686yes it was annoying as fuck
>>738050929Just bring back custom moves and add a story mode
>>738051041Like honestly we need a reset because it feels like characters are shoved in to advertise things instead of it being a hall of fame nowadays. Give me something fun like Cranky Kong.
>>738050929I don't think they necessarily need to do a full reboot, but a lot of 64/Melee characters badly need an overhaul. I think they could leave more recently introduced characters alone and just focus on revamping the old characters as a selling point. But you're right, it would piss off autists, so I'm not sure it will happen, even if it should. Another big story mode like SSE feels like a safe crowd pleaser. More customization in the form of alt costumes and echo fighters too, and I wouldn't mind if they brought back custom moves. Alt costumes in particular are a huge untapped well of fan service, there's no reason characters like Mario should still be stuck with only 8 colours. I think echo fighters are a good move too to introduce more characters without having to make a bunch of new movesets, but it also has the potential of pissing people off. If they bring back custom moves it should be like Mega Man's where it actually gives characters different abilities from their games, it could be a way of modernizing old character's movesets somewhat without committing to full overhauls if they're not willing to do that.
>>738051501>Selling point of a new Smash game is to change the movesets of your mains>That's itI don't think I'd ever hear a smash idea that is worse than putting a FNAF or Undertale character in.
i've been replaying this trying to master it on retro achievements and i forgot how brutal boss battles mode is on hard with no continues offered. amazing game though with an amazing cast, pokemon trainer was extremely inspired. sex with zero suit samus
>>738051548See but that's exactly the attitude that's holding the series back. I'm sorry, but the old 64 movesets are just outdated. Both gameplay-wise, and in terms of representing their characters. And we want a NEW Smash Bros game, something that moves the series forward; but people are so resistant to change, they just want another iteration of the same thing. It's stale to anybody who isn't autistically committed. FWIW, I don't think they will have the balls to overhaul the classic characters, so I think you're safe. But I don't think it's healthy for the series.
>>738051697I could never beat Tabuu on intense, he would always kick my ass with that dumb AoE move that took the whole screen
>>738051751i'm trying to get that down, it's all in the timing of dodge rolling but i hardly ever nail it. the worst boss is that twin one you fight on the halberd, he's a run ender
>>738051728The N64/Melee characters are fine, it's actually the newer characters that tend to be too gimmicky and could benefit from being simplified. Smash is too fast paced of a game for me to ever use Hero's menu for example. It sounds like the type of argument other people make when they say games like Mario 64 aged poorly when it's actually still one of the best platformers out there, and modern platformers still strive to have the type of smooth and fluid gameplay that it has.
>>738041817knowing there are posters here who grew it with brawl instead of melee is pretty grimeven without being a tourney-fag, most people I knew thought melee was way more fun. Brawls is so floaty and everyone lives forever.
smash would be better if every character had a dragdown + jablock combo
>>738050686I was part of a taunt party in smash 4 and some faggot targeted only me.
>>738041817When are getting the Brawl PC port?
>>738049107Wii Sports Resort was kino thougheverbeit and was certainly better than 2 out of the 4 games you listed.
>>738041817Love that trailerhttps://youtu.be/PbetJKOQB7k?si=jaQrvXkRVmmOoesW
>>738052130How did you not get booted? I would always get kicked from a match after only 10 seconds of goofing around.
>>738041817>before the roster faggotry>brawllmao, surly you jest right anon?
>>738052304Zoomers have such a morphed sense of reality. They get nostalgic for the 360/PS3/Wii era when everything wrong with the industry started there.
>>738052354Millennials have such a morphed sense of reality. They get nostalgic for the xbox/ps2/gamecube era when everything wrong with the industry started there.
this game upscaled in dolphin is so fucking amazing. godlike texture work
>>738041817>before tbe roster faggotrybrawl was the start of roster faggotry
>>738052458Anon, those are zoomer consoles.
>>738041817Fool, Brawl is exactly where the rosterfaggotry started.
>>738042017Lowkey one of the best features of the Wii.
>>738052458GenX have such a morphed sense of reality. They get nostalgic for the Atari 2600, Intellivision, ColecoVision, and Odyssey 2 era when everything wrong with the industry started there.
>>738052672Boomers have such a morphed sense of reality. They get nostalgic for the Pong era when everything wrong with the industry started there.
>>738052672Anon, those are boomer consoles
>>738050929A sequel that cuts characters. Tendies should accept that characters get cut from fighting games and that Ultimate was a one-time thing.
I miss playing Project M with the boys.
>>738052936Rivals of Aether 2 is good enough
>>738052842I'd like to see the Splatoon characters get cut but I know it ain't happening. Such an eyesore.
>>738053078fuck you and die
>>738053386Seethe
>before the roster faggotry>Japan Time was literally on the front page 24/7 for months and months before Brawl came outI don't know why zoomer faggots or Ledditors come here and LARP about shit that happened before they were born, but they need to fuck off.
>>738041817>oh, sorry son. the real games were 64 and melee. brawl sucked. even though snake is my favorite character to use. tragic but what can you do.
The old days where there millions of mods of trying to put Shadow into Smash. At first you just recolored Sonic to Shadow's colors. You later got creatiive where Shadow basically had his Sonic Battle moveset where he was being ported over Donkey Kong.
>>738053445What causes this? I didn't act like I knew what went on in the SNES era because I wasn't alive back then, but zoomer faggots have tried to lecture me about the N64 days.
>>738053445>>738053507Same fag foreign troll.
>>738053715Historical revisionist.
>>738053715Ah, the classic ebin zoomer maymay "ur a jeet", very cool. Not only am I smarter and older than you, I'm also whiter than you, guaranteed.
>>738041910playing this shit online suckedHOWEVER playing cod WAW with a wii remote was fun as balls especially with the flamethrower you walk in a room and spaz out back and forth and fucking rape everybody I never prestiged because I wanted to use the flamethrower forever
>>738052842How do I unlock Mewtwo or Young Link in Brawl?
>>738042017>Best friend IRL gets a Wii and we add each other>Starts glowing the next day>Turn it on, see something like "faget lol">Call him, he doesn't answer>Leave a voicemail calling him a dipshitWe never did play anything online, it was 100% him talking shit. That was most of our friendship. He's dead now. I honestly don't care that much.
>>738052269Around that time I was still punished for abusing the internet in my house so I downloaded all the videos about the Revolution and subsequently the wii, while I was in my room I kept watching those on repeat, the Snake trailer was specially cool, then a few weeks later the punishment was lifted just in time to follow the dojo, great times.
>>738041817this game is literally responsible for rosterfaggotrythey dripfed characters and other info about the game for months
>>738047092It's unlikely we ever will, phones are too ubiquitous for minimalism to die.
>>738052936Never really stopped for me. REX and P+Ex just got new updates, so I'm planning on booting those up with a friend tomorrow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlL7ygTBhlwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHPJO46pQeU>>738053004While I love Rivals 2 and still play it frequently, I do wish there were more games like it so that I'm not dealing with the same characters and matchups all of the time. My dream platform fighter would have the fluid movement and general mechanics from Rivals 2 mixed with the larger character roster and simpler movesets of Project M, with a couple of crazy bullshit moves tacked on to the characters for added flair.
>>738050929Make a singleplayer mode that isn't shit
>>738041817Fighting over the roster was always a thing. Melee’s popularity only made discussion over Brawl much worse and it hasn’t been the same since.
>>738050642There were a few outliers that actually went up close with the lightning kicks, but yeah most of the Zeldas I came across spammed side B.
>>738052557magnificent
>>738052557Brawl samus best samus
Ali BabàGG noobYoshi's side Bthe monkey wants to hug him