I enjoy shmups and I don't need to go for a 1CC. Also have you played her game yet?
Just got my sengoku ace 2-all, if the thread is still up I'll upload it in a bit. I've only actually ever played original mode in mushi. I don't even know what mode I'd play if I went back to it again.
Why is the switch port of Mushy so good but most other shmups are laggy ass??
>>738043252Based. I showed up for the tiddies in that game and got absolutely rekt by the gameplay.
I can consistently no-miss stage 3, my only problem now is getting through stage 5 without losing my cool. I die once and it ends up cascading.
>>738043136I got a Mushi Maniac 1CC on the Steam port back when that released. I prefer Deathsmiles personally.
I'm going to try Guwange tonight. Normal MAME is fine for shmups, right? I've never noticed any problems with it but I see anons talking about some different program specifically for these games sometimes
>>738043737Depends how autistic you want to be over accurate slowdown in the game compared to the original PCB.
Trannymaibro, I summon you
>>738043737Yeah MAME is fine as long as there's no "Timing Problems" message when you boot up the game
>>738044091Mai?
>>738044187Mommy milkies
>>738043136>I don't need to go for a 1CC.Yoh didn't beat the game
>>738043136which touhou is she from?
>>738043136Yes, I played her game. The bullets are a bit hard to see, so I didn't play it very much. I always ended up booting up Crimzon Clover instead, as that was my go-to Steam shmup for a long time.
>>738044486>The bullets are a bit hard to see, so I didn't play it very muchAre you brain damaged or something?
>>738044316I didn't play on an original arcade cabinet, on an original PCB, and I didn't get a 1CC. I absolutely did not beat the game. But I had fun.
>>738044451This is a shmup thread. 2hu fags don't play games and aren't welcome.
What accessible shmups should I start with, and how should I approach them?Do I dedicate entirely towards it, or just take it casually? I really want to get into shmups but I don't really know how unless it's feeling bad for dying at all or playing on an easier difficulty. Same with shmups having so many modes to choose from, I'm getting choice paralysis on what to load in with.
>>738044554Giga based.
>>738044554>But I had fun.STOP HAVING FUUUUN, YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN, YOU SHOULD BE MEMORIZING THE GAMES BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY SHMUPS AAAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANEEE
>>738044631Elemental Master is a very accessible shoot em up. It's a vertical scroller and at the start you have a choice among four levels. Each level unlocks new magic. It has an awesome setting and it's forgiving for a shoot em up because you have health and can expand your health bars. On the other hand there are no lives so once you run out of health it's a game over.Listen to this an decide: https://youtu.be/lkobFdtzLSA
>>738044451In an alternate universe she is Momoyo from th18
>>738044631Anything from Compile. MUSHA, Blazing Lazers, or Super Aleste are good. They are console shmups and are pretty different from arcade shmups in terms of pacing and level design, but it's a good entry point. After that look at Cave's library.
Sengoku Ace 2-ALLhttps://youtu.be/NG1RmpRvSOsFirst 2-ALL and probably the oldest shmup I will ever play. Pretty much what you'd expect from old shmups, lots of safe spots, quick kills, and pretty severe punishment for going off route or dying. I'd say it was about as hard as a 2nd gen psikyo 1-ALL, maybe a bit harder. This game is very random. The first 3 stages of each loop are selected at random. The train stage gives you random powerups. The safe spot in 2-4 works randomly depending on which direction the samurai helmet ship goes. The stage 4 boss is random and can give you a ton of extra score. The final boss is random and can be a version that gives you less points and requires a bomb. So some pretty interesting choices for a shmup. I also feel there's more sections where you actively dodge versus like an old rigid toaplan style streaming game where tanks snipe you from full screen. Had a pretty devastating death in 2-4 that had some long term consequences i had to route around. Sometimes it's better to die twice and just get 2 power ups at once, fortunately didn't have to resort to that here.I did have fun completing this and it does have a really unique aesthetic. Gave me a lot to think about in regards to shmup design, playing a dadshmup like this.
>>738043593It's gets a lot easier when you find consistent set ups for the spiders. At least 2 of them are basically free. I used to find threading the spiral pattern really intimidating, it's ezpz now.
>>738043136Nothing wrong with your enjoyment of the game, shmups are great when played in a relaxed, casual manner too. It's a testament of good game design when you can have fun at max difficulty when the game asks a lot of the player and and the opposite
>>738044631Try ZeroRanger or the demo of Rainchaser. You don't have to think much.
>>738043737Shmupmame will get you one reduced frame of input lag at the cost of the background layer wobbling from the sprites in some games.
>>738044631Define accessible. It entirely depends on what your expectations are. If you're gunna play something fun it's gunna take awhile to get a 1cc and it'll be imposing, and that's fine. A cool part about shmups is when something that previously felt impossible becomes pretty easy. It's a test of your ability to not be discouraged, which makes learning ultimately more enjoyable.
>>738046540that's not skill but rote repetition and not fun
>>738046573skill is refined through repitition. that's how real life works
>>738046573Practicing bosses in CAVE games, for example, is how you get really, really good at actively dodging, which is transferable to other games. I remember PEG saying he plays a wide variety of shmups because he believes it's the best way to grow your skill.
>>738046763valuable skills, not something a monkey could do like 1CCing a shmup>>738046792transferable to other shmups* not other actual games that require dexterity, ingenuity and skill
>>738046573>repetition and not funSpoken like a true casual fag with no skill. >>738046919>valuable skillsHaving no skill does not make you valuable, monkey brain.
>>738043136Shmups are all too derivative, why hasn't anyone tried making a Shmdown yet?
>>738044631ZeroRanger is genuinely a masterpiece
How are you gentlemen?
>>738046792Dodging skills are not transferable at all. It's a meme that shmupfags can't play anything else.
>>738046989I am a karate black beltI know how to play pianoI am currently expanding my recipe catalogue as a cookmeanwhile you practice set patterns that any monkey can do given enough time and call this fun, we are not the same
>>738046792i thought if you were dodging you weren't playing the game right
I can't get over how fucking sick this game isIt feels crazy considering how much I hated it at first
>>738046495Guwange works pretty good in shmupmame
>>738047053downwell
>>738047558>karaterepetitive motions done by monkeys>pianojust memorize the patterns lol lmao even you're just playing the same 12 notes over and over>cookingso you're a fat fuck too with no useful skills.
I miss fake onigger
Best shmups for new players:>Crimzon Clover - Novice Difficulty>Mushihimesama - Novice Difficulty>DoDonPachi Resurrection (DaiFukkatsu) - Novice Difficulty>>738048072
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Devolved into tranny talk 45 posts in. Not bad for this general.
>>738048295How am I a troll? Calling out a casual retard for being what he is is simply telling the truth, and it used to be a fairly standard practice of /v/ before it was invaded by reddit.
Played some Mushihimesama on Maniac for the first time in closer to a decade yesterday and got gaped because 1.0 doesn’t have autobomb like the iOS version and the Switch Pro dpad sucks major dicks. Arrange mode seems doable once I get my stick though.
>>738048562Twittertranny shitflinging = trollOld /v/ would've told you to kill yourself
>>738048468>tranny comes in an accuses others of trannytalkOh the bitter irony
>>738046540I genuinely meant accessible as in what's available but also as in how easy something is to use. For example, as a fighting game player, I love training modes, and one of the best platforms for games is fightcade, which at the start I found I had issues getting setup and it lacked alot of those quality of life options I'd come to use.So for me, I guess an accessible shmup wouldn't be hidden in some obscure collection, possibly has an unproblematic port to modern systems and doesn't require me to waste more mental energy having to look up specific information before having to play. Though as said, I lack knowledge on if shmups even need much outside a rom, controller etc. and if they even need tweaking in the first place.
>>738048913No they wouldn'tThese threads were way better years ago when schizos like you you weren't here
>>738048913you got scoremogged by a diablo player and started acting like a battered housewife, we didn't forget that
Guwange is cool, I really liked shooting those enormous projectiles until I jobbed to the spidercat bossThe tutorial was only in moon runes, you just hold the fire button down to control your little demon guy and that's all there is to it, right? The coins are just for score I assume?
>>738044631Play something free like Hydorah or one of the ABA games shmups.Then maybe if they are on sale, Black Bird, Deathsmiles, or Aleste Collection.
>>738049475my niece in middle school is more mature than you.
Sooooo anyway I played some UFO Lunatic today and died to Superhuman with MarisaB. I hate that shot and whoever recommended that, I hate you.I'll try with SanaeB next, I know that shottype better.
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>>738049769>FFVIIThis is who hates me, lmao. Bottom feeders obsessed with squareslop decades after it stopped being cool (or rather, after it stopped being trendy. It was never cool.) If you even tried to llay a shmup, you would explode.
>>738049810how about you kill yourself first nigger
Thank god.
>>738049081This is a misfire, look at the chain deletion.
kys or talk about Saidaiōjō getting a physical release in the big 27
>>738050420What are you even talking about
how do you respond without sounding mad?
Is there any reason to worry about ranking in batrider outside of not just vacuuming up power ups
>>738049106Bullets canceling is very important. You also take less damage when your demon think is out. You want to leave healing items on screen until you need them, if you can. That's all I remember.
>>738049717Well here's a shit run. I had to edit my route and skip some graze tricks to play more defensively because I clearly don't remember how to play anymore.All in all... eh. I don't enjoy these games anymore, even less the arcade stuff. I won't miss you, thread.
>>738052415Sorry I recommended MarisaB :) congrats
Why does every raizing game feel like I'm moving through honey? I never feel this way with cave and psikyo stuff.
>>738052415>803mclearly not your first rodeo, a regular 1cc is like 200-300m
>>738044917>Anything from CompileMan I wouldn't recommend compile to anyone
>>738052613It's not. I used to play UFO Lunatic casually for score like... 14-15 years ago at this point. I half remembered my UFO route but I let 3 significant score UFOs away, losing like 400m, never mind losing about 150m from failing spells. There was some stupid shit on Ichirin, Murasa, and stage 5 I kept dying to and it was pissing me off.Regardless this experience reminded me of 2 things:>I never truly enjoyed shmups>the community was/ is horseshit
>>738053105>>the community was/ is horseshitTwo things1. Don't base your opinion of the overall shmup community around the couple retarded schizos here2. Touhou's tryhard community has gotten significantly better since the kusoplay days, maybe a couple are still around but they only mind themselves>>I never truly enjoyed shmupsCan't help you there, go play something you like
>>738043136I actually never played the original mushi much but I'm playing the shit out of futari. God Mode is absolute fucking cocaine
>>738053284Man why are you even in here shitting up the thread and shilling touhou
>>738053316Max mode in 1.5 is pretty fire if you like Futari.
>>738053284It's fine. I'll leave you all to continue shitposting.>kusoplayEh, whatever. I can't even access MotK anymore lol.
2hu secondaries are infinitely more despicable than the "tryhards", if those even exist anymore
>>738053460blame moralfaggotry being on the rise. "you will not participate in >>degeneracy/sexualization<<" dogma means retards like that screenshot
uh oh tranny melty timelet's go ask for scores and post cp on /jp/ this time
>>738053340Your tranny tears are delicious
Why is the thread normal when it's arcade shmups and then when it's touhou it's screeching about culture war nonsense
>>738053597cause of niggas like >>738053340 and >>738053460
>>738053643No it's very clear your fault, get out of here you disgusting faggot
>>738053678i'm good bro, keep dilating tho it's funny
touhou niggas get an entire board to themselves but need to insert their shallow gameplay (usually impossible for a shmup) talk in the shmup thread
>>738052415I tried this game and it's really hard. Even Normal has so much going on with the UFO collecting
>>738053767He cleared it in a day on lunatic after not playing for 15 years man
>>738053839meanwhile you can never do a lunatic 1cc lol
>>738053890Sure thing retard
>>738053920post it
>>738053938You already got 1 lunatic clear and a dissapointed player today. No one else should waste time on you. I'm not playing slop.
>>738053523it's absurd how many young retards just straight up censor the word sex even when speaking negatively about it. xyz character is """"s-worded"""". they actually managed to castrate an entire generation
>>738053993Why are you replying to yourself, no sane adult cares what 13 year old touhou fans are doing on twitter. Go make a goober gate thread or something.
What is this fake feud between 'shmup players' and 'touhou players' lol
>>738053767My Lunatic PB was about 1.7b. It took over a year of on and off grinding to get to that point. Nowadays with thprac it's probably much easier to practice stage portions and nons, back then we had to mess around with SpoilerAL.Most Touhou players will hate this but UFO is a route heavy game. If you have a good survival route, you can get comparable resources to DDC and LoLK.
>>738054074it's the same schizo having a hissy fit about touhou lol
she got banned again?
>>738054401The real avatarschizo should be permabannedAntischizo was cringe but fine
>>738054471At least they're doing their job for once.
Shmup thread over I guess, thanks touhou niggers
hell yeah let's go
>>738054635A monumental achievement.https://x.com/hiro_hiro_ns/status/2049890469136785440
>>738054635I feel like he was stuck at 9.97b for years now
>>7380550309.9 was 2024 but he's been pushing the record for years
>yeah what if we took mushi maniac and gave it original bullet speed hahasdoj expert is fantastic
>>738054130Should I go for red or green UFOs?
>>738055728Greens give more resources but you have to use the bombs before you die. If you're new you should go for reds.
>>738056289ThanksWhat do the flashing color UFOs do?
>>738056464For survival, they spawn another flashing UFO token and flip point items to red power items. It can help with gathering more resources if you incorporate them into your route. For simplicity's sake, I'd stick to collecting reds for flashing tokens and greens.
>>738053974Don't dish it if you can't take it.
