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I skipped DT. Is 8.0 looking good?
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>>738062870
no
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>>738062870
yes
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Maybe
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>>738062870
I don't know
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>>738062870
>beach expansion into winter expansion
talk about pulling a 180
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>>738062870
Can't be worse than DT, right?
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>>738062870
can you repeat the question
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>>738064250
Japan Expansion into Isekai Expansion will still be the funniest whiplash to me.
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>>738067091
>SAM getting btfo in the trailer
YAMETEEEEEEE
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>>738067149
Everything pre 5.0 Derplander did. Not sure what point you're making.
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is EW the Jeet expansion or the space expansion
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>>738067950
EW is the "BTFOing the Garleans" expansion
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didn't watch the evolved job showcase, are healers still green DPS or are they making healers more healing oriented?
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>>738068446
Unless they want to make healing much more difficult, healers healing more is never happening.
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Oh this is funny, someone here actually snagged a photo and leaked Evercold hours before doors opened for the keynote:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737546651/#q737553771
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>>738062870
it is looking mighty kino ngl
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>>738068446
they removed a lot of oGCD heals and made GCD heals grant a resource you can spend on a big damage spell, i think they want GCD heals to be dps-neutral and a bigger part of your kit

they only showed off WHM though so i dunno if the other healers will be similar
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>>738068989
Looked fake and gay. Still does
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>>738068446
In the WHM showcase, they literally say "We want the healers main priority to be more healing". They get a big damage move that builds up by healing.
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>>738068989
Half the comments not believing it, the other half being meme lords.
This place truly is a shithole with tiny specs of diamonds shining through

>EVERCOLD
>BORN FROM COLD
>OF OUR CHILLY BROTHERS
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just dug up my screenshot folder, how the hell did it take me 18 days to punch zenos in the face
at this rate i'm not gonna get through 6.5, all of 7.x and then 8.0 before the raid comes out... and i'd love to only buy everwinter instead of both it and dawntrail
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>>738069614
I strongly doubt it will take you 8 months
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>>738069426
they are not remaking more than a decade of old content to require anything other than falling asleep at the wheel for healers, nor are they going to suddenly course correct and piss off all the msq andies

if there are any changes, it's purely going to be in savage and ultimates

>They get a big damage move that builds up by healing
that's literally just the lily system
>i-it requires damaged targets!!
so the lily system except you can get randomly cucked by your cohealer
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>>738068989
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>>738069726
That's how toxikon works too
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Someone post lalas
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>>738069983
toxicon isn't even damage neutral, you are already committing to a loss. and toxicon only gets cucked by a sch if they use their gcd shield. it doesn't happen if you play pure + barrier like se intended and it doesn't happen with ogcd shields
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>>738062870
can you skip DT without having to pay? I can give the game another chance if you could.
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>>738068989
I made 40 posts in that thread. This is how I shall be remembered.
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>>738069983
No? Toxicon doesn't refund you any damage, it has the same potency as Dosis.
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>Evercold releases
>it's 10/10 expansion
>now I have to finish DT to get to it
I hope it's shit
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>>738069683
i can probably clean out EW with a free login but not DT. i have no idea why they don't just let you access older expansions you don't have as soon as you preorder the latest
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>>738070293
Because dawntrail is still not done till september
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>>738070381
isn't the preorder normally up after the previous expansion's done? i definitely don't see it right now
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>>738071234
It was announced, which I thought was strange. Maybe they need something to fill out Berlin, or maybe it just simply isn't done yet
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>>738071313
Wasn't*
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>>738062870
The big concrete change so far is some major job changes, which so far seem pretty good in the actual rotational changes but they also come with 1 button combos which is pretty lame, so far they've shown off paladin, white mage, dragoon and bard, there's gonna be a toggle to use the old versions of the job for uncs who can't adjust.
the other more concrete thing is syncing item level on jobs up to the ilevel of your highest ilevel job, but Materia won't be carried over in this so for high level content you are still gonna need to actually gear multiple jobs

everything else so far is just vague ideals and a we swear the game actually has a budget now promise,

one really concerning thing though is they are totally unlocking skin tones so you can have people running around in unnatural colors, I'm hoping they at least lock it behind a quest at like level 20 so new players know what's actual normal canon colors for each race
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>>738067824
DRK is a 3.0 job thoughbeit
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>>738069519
I'm not believing shit of fuck after the grinch leak
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>>738068446
whm at least is fixing blood lily by making it an ogcd that scales off of how many times you are actually using your gcd heal
Given what they showed for dps vs pld/whm, other healers might be more intensively redesigned
also cure1 should finally be dead
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I was wondering how many of you who post here went to the NA fanfest? Has to be a couple of you?
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>>738070273
If post-endwalker was the warning sign for dawntrail, post dawntrail surely is the warning sign for evercold.
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>>738071313
probably wont do preorders until they have a actual date
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>>738071857
Cure 1 existing is soul and the main downside of evolved WHM is losing it
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>>738070184
I'm fairly confident they are going to make evercold some manner of alternate start point surely. It's getting absurd especially with collabs requiring people to play the rest of the MMO to check them out.
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>>738071635
none of the evolved jobs have any new ideas. paladin is literally reusing an old button they had before which was shield swipe and whm is just lilies with extra steps. drg got diamondback and somehow less positionals than in dt, brd is literally just nu smn with expedience
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I'm interested in what they do with off tanks
>skilled at lowering damage taken by allies and lowering enemy damage
that just seems like it won't matter when people fuck up a mechanic or wander into an aoe
like I'm not super versed in savages or anything but in extremes I don't think damage from autos or unavoidable stuff is ever much of a huge issue
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>>738072495
After introducing the Unending Codex and doing nothing with it I think they're fully committed to the idea of "fuck you, you're playing 10 years of MSQ whether you like it or not, we aren't an endgame MMO"
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>>738073212
I think thats for the best
they must have noticed all the merch sales are from characters in SHB and EW
and merch sales must easily surpass sub revenue
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>>738073334
On top of that regardless of how much they copy WoW's homework they do want to distance themselves from WoW and do their own thing, they've been good at not copying WoW's foibles even if it results in their own unique problems, like stagnant jobs because they refuse to reinvent the wheel every single year
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>>738069954
What if the Shiva from the Dragonsong War was actually Halmarut and/or this girl and she changed her mind about sabotaging things further, which is why the Dragonsong War didn't end so quickly and lasted forever.
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>>738072495
DT should have been alternate starting point. And it probably would have worked out more or less.
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>>738073212
>we aren't an endgame MMO
But then the EVA raids will be endgame content
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>>738073497
What if this Shiva likes bad boys and hitched up with Nidhogg over Midgardsormr?
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>>738072121
I did. Was there for the keynote, localization panel, got to meet Brian Ricardo and we took pictures at the big XIV thing, and relaxed mainly.
The weather was so nice to walk around in, it was in the 60s. My only regret was not making stickers of my chars for the sticker exchange cause the date just snuck up on me (lotsa going on IRL to handle). Maybe the next one.
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>>738073597
It was the spot that makes the most sense as alternate start point but I guess whoever was in charge of making that call saw what a disaster the expansion was and got cold feet.
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>>738073610
Same as the other crossover and plugging raids
>too bad, play 10 years of MSQ
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>>738072320
If you mean Zero and Thirteenth I liked it.
If you mean Wuk Lamat introduction it can go fuck itself. And I don't even care about tranny VA drama.
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Consider: Dark Knight being identified as an off-tank because it will have self-harm mechanics
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>>738073765
its a good thing. if they can't be arsed to do the bare minimum then they shouldn't be allowed to do anything at 'endgame'
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>>738074823
Wording it that way makes it sound less like Dark Knight spending HP and more like they get depressed and have to fight off suicidal tendencies whenever they fuck up their rotation.
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>>738074994
>mild inconvenience
>immediately slit my own throat
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i wanted prishe to stay with us
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ffxiv is evolving
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>>738075335
I just wish there was a child body mod that used the kids from ingame. Instead of Korosuke's weird ass proportion "kitten" shit.
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>>738075386
Those are just scaled down midlander bodies last I recall, the actual child model
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>>738075426
male midlanders specifically. the twins are notable for that
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>>738075467
Weirdly enough the game actually does internally identify and treat Alisaie as a female Elezen despite using a male midlander body, while plumbing around for Estinien's unique-to-him update of the Trueblood armor around Dawntrail's release I saw the max-level summer trust outfits and Alisaie's is listed as being for female Elezen
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>>738075557
excellent

bring on the elf hebes
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Alisaie is eager to help you find the clyteum
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>>738075717
alisaie is grugbrained enough she might not even know about it
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>>738075717
Was the 1.0 UI mod finished? I remember it being WIP and posted here.
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>>738075823
The mod wasn't ever finished, I'm still using the beta build of it floating around from that time and had to strip a couple things out to keep the game from crashing, specifically one of the Emotes menu textures
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>>738075757
What WoL sees when Alisaie learns what that funny nub does
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why are Xaelas so based?
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>>738075992
Am I dumb or is it Clyteus in JP?
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>>738075883
Oh nice, mind sharing it to see if it's the latest one i remember?
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>>738076003
Xaela are smelly
Raen are slutty
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>>738075335
it bothers me you can't recreate elins even in games with robust customization like pso2
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>>738076027
it's still Clyteum in JP
i'm surprised it's pronounced Cryteum instead of Cliteum. thanks moonrunes
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>>738064250
Dawntrail was filler slop to introduce the macguffin for the wol to travel to other shards. Evercold will start the real story arc
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>>738075717
>>738075757
Her VA clearly didn't want to say it
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>>738073678
It sounds a lot more relaxed and better organised all round than the Las Vegas fanfest, glad you enjoyed yourself Anon.
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>>738075717
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>>738076482
Helps they actually had shit to show off this time
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>>738068446
They're making it so all your gcds are going to be spent on healing, and doing so earns you a resource to spend on ogcd damage spells.
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>>738075386
The koro mods just put a big head on whatever body you have, and the in game kids use Midlander bodies. So they do exactly what you want.
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>>738076618
>outgoing damage is such that the healer has to heal every gcd now
ummm tank/dpsKEKS? enjoy your {weakness}
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>>738069726
>so the lily system except you can get randomly cucked by your cohealer
I guess you better start learning to play with other people in this MMORPG.
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>>738076080
https://files.catbox.moe/6o6cci.pmp
Includes the fixes and a personal change I made
>Emotes UI has a game crashing texture removed
>login screen has no blue vignette around the screen's border, forced to remove it to also get rid of a 1.X corner border that took up half the screen, again caused crashes if I messed with it and never figured out why
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The clooteum.
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>>738076550
What, you didn't like the lalafell chin comparison last time when showing off the 'grahics update'.
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Is AST fun again? Waiting for that to come back.
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>>738075386
Koro's mods make the faces fucking disgusting
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>>738077732
Yeah that’s what mean, the faces.
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>>738078268
*what I mean.
I had to do some customize tweaks on the face for the midlander young faces to get it better. I hate how too “uwu” he did it. And it’s the only one out there.
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>>738078249
farewell.... tomestones....
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>>738078249
>>738078410
They shall be missed in the same way that belts are missed.
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still the best part of the new patch

what armor set you guys going for in windurst? i'm getting striking
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>>738078742
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>>738062870
If you're asking genuinely, it looks aimless just like the rest of money wasted on Final Fantasy XIV.
Reborn control scheme will make combat more boring, not more exciting, which is the big bulk of "Job design" slated for the expansion release. Nothing about the game's long-term problems is being fixed.

>We won't have better gear, though there allegedly will be more avenues of gearing up.
>Highest Gearscore will be shared for all of your jobs. We have yet to see how this will work while doing roulettes or leveling.
>Content is still going to be largely irrelevant a few weeks into a patch because there are still no RPG elements to create rewards with.
>Not only is reborn lowering the skill floor and ceiling, it's also going to make leveling a massive nightmare. Imagine less skills spread across 110 levels.
>Now players don't need to log in daily, they can stack up daily rewards for up to two weeks, meaning a less active game in general.

I don't know. I just don't think anything announced will help the game.
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>>738078742
All of them eventually because they're all free AF sets
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>>738078923
you lost and you will continue to lose
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>>738078923
I struggle to think of how removing raid buffs is doing much of anything to the skill ceiling or floor
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>>738067091
>Isekai

What is up with Japan's obsession with this genre?

Also, I came back for 7.5 but didn't do the other past extremes? How hard are they and will I find people for them?
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>>738079036
Well it doesn't matter now that they are all on the same cooldown, shouldn't have changed it in the first place.
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I think we should be able to pull on her tail at least once in the MSQ.
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>>738078742
what's her deal?
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>>738079036
>MMO
>You can't buff the party in any meaningful way
>The buffs aren't interesting
>instead of making Square Enix pull out one of the many fun buffs in Final Fantasy players are happy to not have buffs.
>There used to be a time in which Jobs had distinct buff timers, which made them more interesting in all content and not just raids.
>21(?) job rotations are entirely solo in a FINAL FANTASY MMORPG of all things

>>738079008
Eh. I'm used to it, really. Every game I've ever been a part of just goes in flames. I've been slowly transitioning to non MMO/multiplayers titles because of this. But I can't deny I want games to succeed so I can go back again.
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>>738078249
YOU VILL EAT ZE TOMESTONE
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>>738062870
Depending on your preferences: cautiously optimistic. They announced bigger budget, clearer vision, more to do in zones, 2 minute meta dead and pissed on. Jobs are getting two modes: what is today and Evolved, latter looking closer to how PvP plays. Only showed four jobs so far, no idea if the rest will be good.
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>>738075335
How does one achieve this? Is it just customize? Hmmmm
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>>738079408
bodymod of our choice plus customize+
and the face is a separate mod, but the eyes look kind weird to be honest
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>>738079340
She can get any dick she wants.
And nobody can stop her.
That's why she's so cocky.
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>>738079470
actually she can't. thats her only regret
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>>738079351
>MMO
>You can't buff the party in any meaningful way
But there are still buffs. They showed several of them in the showcase. You just think the only meaningful buffs are muh damage muh crit rate because you're a seething balancetroon and you lost. By the way, the removal of your cancerous buff window meta means that AST can get Haste.
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>>738062870
cautiously optimistic, like the other anon said. 120s tranny meta being killed is good but I hope there will be at least one or two jobs with offensive utility still, just for flavor or whatever, and keep that balanced. Not sure how they intend to handle MT/OT without one or the other being bored, they suck at making fights where tanks really do anything differently from DPS to begin with except occasionally mitigating a buster. WAR being cucked into OT is good though, just nerf holmgang a bit too because that shit is busted and reduce the healing WAR has in general
Don't care about the MSQ at the moment because most characters are shit
I'll try it and if it sucks I'll just unsub again
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>>738079351
>MMO
>You can't buff the party in any meaningful way
>The buffs aren't interesting
Yeah, kinda. Nobody has a pissing contest about whether Maplestory is an MMO and every party buff in that game is a flat attack-up, crit-up or defense-up with the only meaningful exceptions of Hyper Body, (HP/MP up) Haste (walking speed/jump height up) and Holy Symbol (EXP gained up), and Haste in particular hasn't been useful in a very long time because those speed-ups and jump-ups got folded into everybody over time.

Like, we saw footage of Cover being tied into Paladin's dash-to-target now, so not only can you Cover really often but it makes the dash-to-target an additional utility since you can also target party members with it. They're clearly looking at this stuff, but we're all totally stunlocked by the current job design and meta composition. Frog that refuses to get out of the boiling pot because he likes the heat.
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>>738079623
>imagine unironically thinking AST are getting their cards back
lmao
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>>738079936
aw dood no every job is getting a full rework but you know like dood it doesn't matter that the reworks are all with the explicit aim of returning job identity and raid design that isn't informed by a two minute meta dood it uhhh it just won't happen because uhhhh it can't dood (eternally gmod flailing against current two minute meta)
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>>738079936
the mitigating factor for it is being removed. so its plausible

though i think people just want a spell that has a clock moving faster because they're not smart enough to understand astrologian is time mage
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>>738079936
Who said anything about the Arrow? I said Haste.
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>>738080046
In fairness they've been trying their hardest to differentiate AST from Time Mage conceptually through changes meant to accommodate raids. Which is also part of the problem they're trying to address, letting raid design dictate job identity and not the other way around. Paladin getting reworked into a bursting job to avoid buffing it and Black Mage getting reworked to drop its timers, probably for the express sake of M5S and M7S, is silly in hindsight
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>>738080119
Also while I'm at it they're fighting every step of the way that AST conceptually is just an Orran Durai reference, and all Durai has going for him is the field-wide Stop spell that makes up AST's LB3 and the job quest plotline with the dick-ass Sharlayan AST using illegal magic

They really should have just done Time Mage, but every Heavensward job is Yoshida beating off in your face about how much he loves Matsuno's iteration of Final Fantasy, and Astrologian is the end result of Yoshida being a one pump chump in that regard
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>>738062870
yeah
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>>738080023
Ah yes, 2 minute meta removal will change everything because raids before EW and DT didn't exist.
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Is it worth playing right now? I played 7.3 haven't touched 7.4 and I still have a few classes at level 90 to level. All my tanks are level 100 already. Are the ques shit? Hard to find info on the que times.
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>>738080239
Silly argument to make, Heavensward is everybody's first point to unique raids. Alexander predates the devs treating Trick Attack as a sacred cow
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>>738080239
>it's going to kill the game but also it's not changing anything
lol
You lost by the way.
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>>738080395
who are you quoting
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>>738068989
>AI, shitty AI at that
Anon irrevocably BTFO
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I feel kinda bad for yshtola this expansion. Every patch she goes on about investigating that key and in the end she just gives it back to you going "Well some things aren't meant to be" meanwhile you're the special snowflake that makes it work by just existing. Like why even keep bringing it up if it's gonna go nowhere.
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>>738080395
this is the face of the immortal lich bringing on the end of the world
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>>738080669
Girl's had a solution drop into her lap and it turns out she literally cannot do anything with it
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>>738080669
No worries, they will pull something out of ass for her so that all scions could travel with you.
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>>738080797
Well yeah that was in the trailer.
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The only thing I really care about is raiding right now. Evolved system seems cool, but what will Square Enix do to make the gameplay outside of raiding actually something fun and not something I'd rather just bot

No I don't consider the story where NPCs emote at each other and 90% waste of time filler riveting gameplay or story mode dungeons/trials/alliance which you can fall asleep to actual content.
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>>738080669
Who gives a shit about that hag? It's all about the BOIS!
ROAD TRIP WITH THE BOIS! APLIE AND ESTINIEN! HERE WE FOOKIN' GO LADS!
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>>738080395
Imagine her looking at you like that while jerking your dick... nnngh...
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>>738080941
I just want new characters.
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>>738080669
We're currently in the overcorrect phase in response to Dawntrail, so the narrative feels the need to remind the player they're God's Special Boy often.
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>>738079875
How is being able to cover people "more often" them looking at "this stuff"?
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>>738081021
I DO NOT! Not after the new characters we got in Dawntrail were all SHIT!
Let's review.
Wuk Lamat, shit
Koana, sister-con shithead
Zoraal ja, dumb fuck lizard who thought he was better than the Garleans while getting fucked by his own adopted sister
The little nigga Mooj, SHIT ON A SHOVEL!
Sphene, ok she's good I like her.
Cowboy retards in the cowboy zone of Dawntrail, absolute retards every single one of them and RUBBER BULLETS!
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>>738081021
then play a different game?
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>>738081171
okay but what about the trolley guys? except this time, they are the railway guys instead
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The Japanese name for Evercold is 白銀の探求者(ワンダラー) or Wanderer of the Silver, the Japanese name for DT is 黄金の遺産 translated as the Gilded Legacy or Golden Legacy. I believe they are following the Vedic cycle for the new "Arc" with DT being the "Golden Age" or Satya Yuga, Evercold being the "Silver Age" or Treta Yuga and 9.0 and 10.0 being respectively Dvapara Yuga and the Kali Yuga (Bronze and Iron Age). If I'm not wrong when it comes to my hypothesis, this seems to indicate that they might be planning either a new "true rebirth" of the game like ARR for 10.0, or just making a new FF MMO (unlikely).
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>>738081171
And scions were not characters at all in DT, only time they were likeable was in HW and ShB. It made my eyes roll seeing twins go through the same exact character back in EW for the 10th time.
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>>738081407
same exact character development*
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>>738078410
>>738078454
Wait, are they ditching the tomestones?
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>>738081729
yeah they're replacing it with some unspecified but different progression system
poetics will probably still remain because they're a fixture of too much old gear and relic weapons
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Wait, how does materia work with the universal ilvl system?
>switch to another job
>good ilvl
>all your melds are fucked
>need to farm multiple gear sets anyway
AIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>738081925
materia won't work with boosted ilvl, you still need the gear
it leaves stats on the table but it doesn't completely preclude your other jobs from play
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>>738081925
It just syncs up your gear I don't understand why people are concerned about this. Melds don't count and you will need to farm specific sets if you want the additional substat which is like 2-3 ilvls at most
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>>738069954
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>>738082105
lmfao
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>>738081925
They said materia would be done separately. It just puts whatever you have equipped to the highest ilvl, substats and melds are all still gear specific.
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>>738082121
Going home to plap Zero
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Do you think the new middle raid difficulty is going to include the (previously) savage-only phases?
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>>738082193
Zero's tentacle and eyeball-lined vagina is exclusive Warrior of Light property much to Julius' chagrin
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>>738082224
I hope not. Heroic should just be savage mechanics but not as punishing. The reward is you get to practice to savage
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>>738078249
what are tomestomes anyway? holodiscs?
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>>738081074
They really are laying it on thick, in the first too where golbez also can't see your magic azem portal right after they make a point to have him say he should be extra sensitive to anything happening in his domain.

I just think it's cooler when things like that are grounded in-universe, if something breaks the rules it should have some kind of worldbuilding implications like advancing our cast's knowledge of aetherology. If it's never explained by the end of this arc and remains a magic azem macguffin that works just because i'm going to be disappointed.
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>>738082224
Probably. Locked phases are just wasted resources now since most players never see them
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>>738062870
it has potential but it's very much a case of needing to see how they execute on it. evolved might be good if they can use the newly freed up hotbar real estate to give jobs more unique actions, but it could also just turn out just to be them further babyifying the game.
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>>738072440

Cure 1 is literally a trap button that is even more useless than shit like Repose. It serves zero actual purpose except to be used when you get sync'd down to a level before you have Cure 2.
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>>738082383
Allagan flash drives and SSDs
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>>738079339
>70% of the game's races have a tail
you're just begging to get yours pulled if you do it
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>>738082224
nah, that would be kinda lame
at the same time i'm mad that i probably won't ever hear the better lindwurm music ingame because p12s will be completely dead by the time i resub
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>>738081925
you basically get the base stats of whatever current gear is equipped scaled up to that ilvl
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>>738081343
they should have been the railgun guys
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>>738082383
They're USB drives.
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>>738082534
>>738082815
between azys lla and the tomestones just how much allagan tech and lore we have for current day Eorzea? I think Eorzea is just being lazy these days with their tech level at this point in the story
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>>738082952
They'll probably make pretty rapid technological advancements when Garlond Ironworks is able to decipher more of it and put it to practical applications but the same organization would probably do its absolute level best to keep stuff like DNA manipulation and cloning out of knowledge

Tomestones don't have any practical value to the average Eorzean past selling them to Rowena or other collectors for an unspecified, but extremely large amount of gil (tomestones themselves are used as bartering currency at traders because the gear they sell is extremely expensive)
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>>738082952
Most tomestones just get bought up by collectors who hoard them, they don't even decipher them. That's how Rowena makes her money.
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>>738082952
All research and advancements are funneled into fashion. This is my headcanon for why Eorzea is Africa tier despite having Sharlyan and Garlemald's finest super geniuses working 24/7 on ancient civilization technology
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>>738081797
I see. Seems like they're really trying to shake things up, huh?
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>>738083265
they keep threatening it as an ARR-tier reboot (but still within the same game, no engine shift or new EXE or anything) and the way they're going about it they might actually be committing to something as drastic as that

yoshida claims patch 7.5X has about as much work put into it as patch 7.0, dawntrail launch, and the devs are singing the praises of all their new staff and juniors on their social media
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>>738082952
>between azys lla and the tomestones just how much allagan tech and lore we have for current day Eorzea? I think Eorzea is just being lazy these days with their tech level at this point in the story

Considering no-one thought to raid the Dalamud shards for tech in the 5 years until the side characters did in EW, I think they're all just retarded
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>>738079126
>What is up with Japan's obsession with this genre?
Literally "your life sucks, imagine if you could go to another world that was cool and filled with waifus".
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>>738083514
They're all swarming with Allagan murderbeasts.
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Chances of them doing a timeskip? All six expansions have canonically taken place in the same year and it's starting to get ridiculous
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>>738083609
Dawntrail is one already. Ketenramm's voyage puts ARR's start at three years ago in-universe
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>>738064250
Im sure that it was marketed both as a "chill take a breather" expansion and the expansion to be ARR 2 and introduce the fundamentals for the next decade long arc. It did neither.
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>>738078249
What the fuck do I even do with poetics, got my ilvl to 714 so far with crafted gear and some mathematics equips but a fair bit of progress to go if I wanna hit 750 to complete all the patch content but these damn poetics are capped.
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>>738080743
She's trying to stop it, akshually. Just in a really dumb way because she doesn't have Azem's golden dildo like we do.
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>>738083514
The one in the shroud locked you into a holodeck prison for even approaching it and the one in La Noscea with those essentially radioactive corrupted aether crystals
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I don't like that golbez get to fuck zero instead of me
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>>738083514
Eorzea as a paralel to Africa got their nations permaraped. In the case of Eorzea it was the ascians who fractured the country to shit. it's no wonder Eorzeans are unga bungas.
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>>738082390
Honestly it seems to me that Azem didn't get involved with Zodiark or Hydaelyn because he saw the Solstice and WoL, so he planned ahead.
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>>738081171
I will hear NO slander about lil nigga mooj.
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>>738067824
DRG got a solid hit in before getting BTFO'd thoughever
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>>738081171
>AND RUBBER BULLETS
Did you know in ye olden days nobles would duel with rubber bullets for laughs and to settle issues that didn't require death?
Woah, kinda like the duel they had in Shaaloani....
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>>738073497
Shiva can be A Halmarut, but not current Halmarut.
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>>738083729
Tomedump relics ie. EW/HW
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>>738083806
>Azem didn't get involved with Zodiark or Hydaelyn
But they are (you) from the future
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>>738083237
garleans werent wrong when they called them savages
eorza is a literal third world country
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>>738083729
Relics, ARR uses them a lot, ShB uses it once and HW/EW relics are literally Poetic dumps
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>>738083902
>nobles
i see some random literal who cowboys on a gold rush of energy, not anyone with proper riches or class.
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>>738082247
Imagine sticking your dick in a woman and her vagina tentacles do all the stroking and rubbing so you and her can just relax in each others' arms while you're milked to completion over and over.
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>>738083902
And these nobles lived in wild west frontier towns?
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>>738083968
>>738084025
The concept is reusable.
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>>738072320
I think that the warnin for Dawntrail was that 6.X DID NOT have anythin Dawntrail for most of it
Say whatever you want about 7.X, But after dealing with the cats, literally everything has been about reflections and how to move between them (Again, there's no reason for this to be post MSQ and not main MSQ, but what's done is done)
Hell, the Zero shit had more to do with Evercold than with Dawntrail, Tural legit was the anime filler arc that the writers try to make somehow lead to the next real part of the manga naturally (They failed and everyone can see where the filler arc starts and ends)
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It amazes me that almost nobody is talking about this past tuesday patch, a patch you can finish in 4 hours.
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>>738083879
you better see. imagine the resources he wastes keeping that shit pristine in the void
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>>738080824
Yep. Trailer shows WoL bringing others through the portal.
If Y’shtola goes through first then she’ll become old and die (that was her in the trailer). Imagine the outrage.
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>>738083968
>>738084025
missing the point on purpose, shame on you
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>>738075335
What body thoughever?
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Despite all the shit dumb things in DT this has to take the cake.
I unironically did not finish 7.1's MSQ until 2 weeks before 7.2 it was that fucking bad, and I started it when the patch dropped.
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>>738083771
Is that why there's a glitchy effect when you walk towards the adds in t6. I guess I must've skipped the cutscene it got explained because coils was long obsolete content by the time i started playing. I only ever went in there unsynced for stickers.
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>>738084129
That's what you're doing. You're trying to transplant a completely different time and culture onto wild west shanty towns as some kind of reddit gotcha.
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>>738064250
They have got to be overcorrecting from their dawntrail abortion. Looks like they are swerving hard into a heavensward/shadowbringers Mashup kino.
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>>738076395
Btw I remeember that there were Trusts portraits for the Scions in beachwear
Did any piece of content ever use them?
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>>738084146
Koana was used fucking terribly. It should have been him to come to Alexandria to discover that technology doesn't solve every problem flawlessly.
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>>738084146
made me tear up
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>>738084208
Get Trusts to level 100 and you can make em wear those swimsuits.
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>>738084194
these backwards cowboys could never have fathomed nonlethal gentleman's duels
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Video game generals belong on vg
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>>738084146
Actually no I realized, this was literally the last thing Koana did as a character, he is literally not a character after this, this is it, the character they played up as some smart guy that just needed some guidance, guy set up to wanting to help his people, made equal to Wuk on the throne, he does literally fucking nothing, his story goes nowhere.
God what an actual terrible character, genuinely pointless you would not miss him if he was removed from the MSQ, in fact it might improve a bit.
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>>738084224
Soul technology is pretty far removed from Koana's applications or even his attempted point on where Tural stands
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>>738084340
Koana's whole thing was
>let me install all this sharlayan tech everywhere, fuck tradition, fuck our culture, more tech = more better
Alexandria would show him directly that reliance on technology to solve all your problems leads to becoming a sterile, boring place where the only thrill people get is the fucking bloodsports.
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>>738072121
I was there for the entirety of both days. It was a good chance for me to hang out with a bunch of friends that were also going and a bunch more that were local.
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>>738084409
Technology is more of a byproduct of Koana wanting to supplant Tural's culture with Sharlayan's, dude is obsessed with putting a square peg into a round hole
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>>738083704
nah it did introduce the foundation for the next story arc, but only halfway through the MSQ and only really in the patches, but it set up concept like world traveling, transportation and so on, or at least reminded people this works after ShB.
As an expansion though it was very much needed, it's clear the dev team got breathing room to actually figure out how to fix a lot of the issues that has plagued FFXIV and also make some of the best raids ever, no doubt training junior team members to push towards new encounters in EC while also giving us very needed QoL changes, its just the the MSQ was ass for a lot of it but we can get over that they've done important good work for the rest of it.
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>>738084452
Exactly the point I am poorly conveying.
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>>738084340
No, actually chasing progress and comfortable lives to the point of absurdity is pretty closely related to what he wanted. You're doing this shit where you just want to nitpick like a redditor to feel smart.
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>>738084303
Welcome to basically everyone in DT besides Sphene and Calyx. You exist to have a backstory, probably help put someone else up on a pedestal or compliment them, and do one dramatic thing if anything, and then you're relegated to background and maybe side quest stuff if you're lucky. Gulool Ja is barely a character, he serves as a platform for Zaraal Ja to show he's not 100% a monster. Koana mostly exists to contrast Wuk and little else. Bakool Ja Ja is the counter to Wuk, and then gets scuttled off once his family issues are finished, he's lucky he got the FFXI event to star in. The list goes on. Sphene got to be an exception by doing a lot more, Calyx basically used the patch cycle as his introductory arc, and arguably Wuk is an exception too but she was culled from most swaths of writing pretty quickly afterwards and barely had anything anyway.
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>>738084452
what a shame that gets dropped completely after they make taco together.
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>>738084553
Well Koana gives up his claim to throne because he realizes his inflexibility and single-mindedness regarding Sharlayan makes him a bad candidate and he's probably never going to truly break past that. Despite his fixation on progress he's got a specific definition of it that keeps him from being a well rounded leader or even really much of a leader at all. So he abdicates
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Is Liliba the sexiest Lalafell in the game?
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>>738084753
That goes to the customs officer that laughs at you for giving "adventurer" as your job title
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>>738084526
human Sphene had her character development end abruptly because plot had to start and they had to write her out of the story. So pretty much it's Calyx who will end up with the most character development probably because he's actually part of the new expansion.
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>>738084753
No, that would be the uuuuuh lala with a gun from the ROG quests.
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>>738084753
The one from the Easter event really looked like a whore, unironically
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uoh.... lalafell in garters and stockings....
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Soon I'll be done with Heavensward crafting quests. at least the stormblood ones are piss easy.
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I wanna play the new stuff but I don't wanna pay but I don't wanna wait for free login but
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>Viking Expansion
>Tank new weapon is a hammer
It can't be that obvious right?
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>>738085235
i'd actually be down for Viking as a choice if they went full thor with it, job normally is a shitty frontliner with high defense and MAYBE the ability to cast thunder
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>>738084753
maybe. but i think being blonde gives a different vibe. i get a lot more strangers talking to me since i swapped from brunette to blonde
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>>738085235
Yoshida had an explicit hint shirt of Rhitatyn or whatever his name was, with GUESS WHO'S BACK over top. Either he's trolling people, or something similar or adjacent to gunshields that Rhit had would be on offer. if we take the shirt extra literally i'll laugh my ass off if he survived his asswhooping
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I would rather get 10 new BLU spells than BST as a whole
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>>738085337
isn't that nigga dead in that EW dungeon
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>>738073597
>New players skips straight to 7.0
>First trial is Worqor Lar Dor, a trial which still gets abandons to this day.
>First dungeon is Ihuykatumu, which is... fine, but the second dungeon is Worqor Zormor which actually requires at least some braincells from tanks and healers.

I'm sure roulette doing ghouls will have patience when getting newbies for those instances lol. 6.1 would be a better place imo, less demanding dungeons and trials overall for new players.
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>>738085337
its a red herring. the clue is dual crossbows and the shirt fits because dual wielding
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>>738085337
no wait he's in the atliascope, guess there's some other bullshit
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>>738085210
then just sub?
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>>738085309
>>738085379
>>738078847
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>>738085379
There's something ironic about calling someone a vagueposter without directly quoting someone
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>>738073597
>>738085402
Honestly I don't think this game can HAVE an alternate starting point the way it's designed, unless some of that mid-tier Savage difficulty stuff also gets put into dungeons and trials for new players. Imagine starting Dawntrail fresh as a new character, only to get thrown into the deep end on these dungeons and bosses? I still see people eat shit on some of these, it would be a catastrophe.
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>>738085337
That nigga's dead in the lifestream
Rhitatyn could mean a whole bunch of things
>shields or greatshields
>gunweapon in general
>Rhitatyn translates to "right judge" in the Roegadyn language, so Judge would be the job's name? Or something related to judging, like Executioner, Marshall or Lawman
>"returning" as a concept
Depends on how vague Yoshida is actually being with the shirt since the TMNT shirt referred to both Viper with Leonardo's dual swords and to Pictomancer with all of the turtles being named after Renaissance artists, or the Spider-Man shirt for "Sam Raimi" to mean Samurai
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>>738085524
that's his schtick. he's mocking the lala while also being coy. this is the actual peak of his potential
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>>738085546
There's also the issue that you're just not gonna know what the fuck is happening with a new starting point, the Unending Codex is the best they can really do without reintroducing every single concept over the past decade and your character selectively being an amnesiac dumbass for each concept
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>>738084087
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>>738081171
Bakool Ja Ja, Lumull and the Arcadion gang were all entertaining. Halmarut seems like a decent antagonist as well.
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The more I think about it the cooler it is. Twin gunshields. What prevents me from resubbing is long ques for dailies though to do dungeons from 90-100. I already maxed my tanks. Might just wait for the cross region matchmaking
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>>738085337
The shirts are always incredibly difficult to go off of because they could be completely on the nose or just a wild leap of logic. We're as likely to see
>the tank dual-wields gunshields like Rhitatyn and that was the hint
as
>actually it was a hint for the ranged DPS being a bomb-based job because Rhitatyn shoots missiles at you in his fight
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>>738085743
Shields, gunshields, either entice me so long as they're big.
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>>738085743
My bet: a dueling shield
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>>738085697
It's not like the story is worth paying attention to. It's all "crystals crystals gods death" followed by a wacky comedic cutscene of the cutesy mascot monsters eating food because the story is getting too heavy
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>>738085737
WAUGH! THE FLATCAR!

HOW MANY TIMES IS IT GOING TO DO THAT?!
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>>738084087
We're all stanning Chort thoughbeit.
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>it'll be dual gunshields! Cause that's what Rhitahtyn uses!
>PCT shirt was the fucking ninja turtles
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>>738085839
>ARMS???
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>>738085867
The TMNT shirt works for both since Leo has 2 swords
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>>738085839
Lumull's VA did really well for the lines in that trial. Like he has hope you can win, but you can still hear in his voice he is VERY worried.
>>738085851
Chort me up, dawg.
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>>738085867
>other anon is correct and they just mean to give us a Judge job
>this is how you get your Garlean-themed AF gear after people requested it for so long
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>>738062870
Yeah now is a good time to jump back in. You can just skip the cutscenes if you want, Dawntrail is mostly filler. Make sure to play the raid series and get your relic weapon.
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>>738084807
God I fucking hate the ff14 writing team.
>Oh should we keep the one single charater everyone loves from the expansion with us?
>Oh no we should actually keep the retarded fucking villian who is less interesting than fucking wuk lamat.
Thank you dawntrail writing team, go fuck yourselves.
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>>738085867
Yeah but on the other hand the shirt for Red Mage was just Scarlet Witch, the shirt for Dark Knight was Batman (the Dark Knight), and the shirt for Reaper was a fucking Grim Reaper. There's no consistency on how obscure or obvious the hints are.
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>>738085931
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>>738085990
Speen didn't even have a goodbye scene and the EC trailer has WoL flying into storm clouds. She's not gone. Lightning and ice are the closest elements to pure dark and pure light, so they'll be linked up to balance each other.
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I don't think the new tank isn't going to be viking themed because warrior is very similar and even beastmaster too.
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>>738085872
they've really upped the quality of the trials. All the dawntrail trials are excellent quality even on normal difficulty. well, necron is a touch boring but the summoning scene and the fight afterwards is great
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>>738086035
Watch out, Garlemald.
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>>738086069
I've had zero problems with any DT trials, love 'em to pieces. Valigarmanda EX is probably my favorite EX trial in the whole game, Mountain Fire was AMAZING as a tank
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>>738068989
Evercold is still a stupid fucking name.
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>>738085546
>>738085697
The real compromise is to have sort of a condensed story mode where you go through the story but most plot points are condensed into a slideshow but you are still forced to play through the most relevant solo instances, dungeons, trials and CT alliance raids. So a several hundreds of hours of story could be condensed into a more manageable experience that really focuses on the gameplay aspect.
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Prime sama
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>>738086264
they give a review of the last patch at the start of every patch. and we will likely get one at the start of 8.0 as well.

just need to explain:
>what Ethos is
>how it works
>who Calyx and Halmarut are
>why any particular scion isn't present (i'm assuming a few will be benched at the start)
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Is forked tower worth bothering with?
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These frontline battle high changes are a clown fiesta in general, but i feel like they're a strong net buff if you're an above average player.
You can now make the occasional mistake and not lose your ability to swing the outcome of battles which is way more valuable than a few more points on the scoreboard.
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>>738085931
>>738086035
>>738086094
>bunch of voidsent massacre a bunch of garleniggers savages with consequence
>garlenigger npc reduced to kucklolry
>the state of globalmalders
Excellent patch. They really thought they were getting an islabard garlean slop expansion. What a bunch of tranny obsessed retards.
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>>738086185
is her face unique? it looks like a face 2 femra but the eyes are different
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>>738086406
8.0 is going to retcon anything from .5 and .55 like it always does in a new expansion
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>>738086441
i'm going to say no, not because its difficult or because of how it was released, but its now solely within the domain of discords (and those never fill up outside of weekends)
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When was the last time you queued for or got The Temple of The First in your roulettes?
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>have a dream about going DRK + MNK as some retarded dual class thing for some reason
>stunning players like it's an action game and then baseball whacking them off an arena to their deaths
this is what i get for eating country fried steaks before bed
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>>738085337
You can buy the shirt now

https://eu.store.square-enix-games.com/final-fantasy-xiv-t-shirt---guess-who_s-back_

I think that makes it even weirder, why the fuck are they making it NOW?
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>>738086194
Every expansion has sounded weird to me at first and then it grows on me for some reason. Maybe playing through the story makes you think about it differently. Like wtf even is 'stormblood', I remember people memeing that it looked like a heavy metal album title or something and that 'bloodstorm' sounded more like a real word. Now I don't think anyone thinks twice about that name anymore.

Heavensward is probably still the coolest overall if only because it's also an incredible quadruple pun.
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>>738086553
Dungeon so forgotten can't even spell it right.
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>>738086493
Yeah so are her horn/textures
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So... I'm still confused by the FFXI raid? So Shantotto actually exist and she came to Ethiyrs because of Saraal Ja and she took the copy Prishe and the game character from XI to XI because it is their home even though they're just copies? I don't get? Also, I still don't get who Alxaal is suppose to be?
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>>738086494
not a lot has happened that can be retconned, or wouldn't be worth it

>scions meet up in garlemald
>pretty standard monster of the week plot with clyteum and enuo
>zero and golbez doing great
>another powerful voidsent joins their cause
>halmarut tells us we're just like zenos
>calyx hints he may be a mole into the winterers as he doesn't approve of the methods of his counterpart on the 4th, but this might be a trap as there's no way Halmarut isn't holding him on a leash
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>>738086553
i believe the last time i did that dungeon i soloed it on blue mage to learn rose of destruction. and yes you can solo it as Gobskin gives you enough of a buffer from his 1 hp attack
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>>738086654
>Also, I still don't get who Alxaal is suppose to be?
He's basically a stand-in for player characters from XI by being a composite of the heroes of Vana'diel. So while there's an explicit protag over there, Axlaal is essentially representing your non-Trust buddies you'd team up with that was there for the big shit with you.
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>>738086654
>So Shantotto actually exist and she came to Ethiyrs
Shantotto was already doing interdimensional travel in FFXI. The one that shows up is a doll she's remote controlling.
>and she took the copy Prishe and the game character from XI to XI because it is their home even though they're just copies?
Yes because they still think they belong there.
>Also, I still don't get who Alxaal is suppose to be?
An amalgamation of various adventurers from countless parallel Vana'diels.
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>>738086446
My theory before the Evercold reveal was that the Voidsent incursion into Garlemald was going to be the starting point of a full-scale multi-shard incursion that would have cleared the clouds off Garlemald on the map, and beneath would be different elemental/shard incursions as the shards tried to force their way into the Source.
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>>738075335
>>738079461
A kind anon needs to enlighten us with a modpack to recreate this.
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>>738086806
It's just a kuro kitten head with customize+ on your body mod of choice.
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I'm begging Yoshi-P that the improved character customization means that there won't be subrace exclusive features anymore and that I can have a cat with suncat eyes and mooncat teeth... Would also enjoy choosing the horns I want on aura and them not being locked into a certain face.
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>>738086771
NEVER EVER.

globalmeld is so boring. glad they sped through that boring ass shit and jullus was just pathetic like the rest of his race. I'm so glad Nero isnt part of that slop.
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>>738086831
Interesting.
Can I use these on Au'ra?
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>>738086863
Well in my theory, it wouldn't just be "garleniggers but fire-aspected" or whatever, the shard incursions would have literally replaced entire sections of the map, erasing whatever garleniggers used to exist in that place.
Would have been a big kick in the dick for garleboos. Oh, you want an expansion? TOO BAD, THE COUNTRY IS LITERALLY GONE.
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>>738086945
Yeah
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>>738079126
>What is up with Japan's obsession with this genre?
imagine if you would, your entire culture of thousands of years being completely crushed by the foreign weight of a country whose ideals are not in the least compatible with your own as a result of wartime occupation that you weren't even alive to defend from
being japanese in current year fucking sucks
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>>738086945
>>738087064
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>>738087064
what's this on? i lost my modding site list when i had to get a new pc
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Julius feeder fetish accusations still not exonerated
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>MSQ forces you to forgive and give aid to Garleans even when they kidnap your friends
:(
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One thing that annoys me about new extremes is when the people who have been grinding it since maintenance end up complaining that people who probably just cleared when they had the free time are still sketchy on mechanics. You should not expect consistency until frankly 3 weeks in.
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>>738087156
kittenmods
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>>738087185
>6.0 heres a younger garlenigger japs like to related to instead of an old wisened man because gaius voice actor is busy and we dont want to use junia or maxima.

what a shitty ass culture. the shittiet part of ew.
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>>738087289
do i have to use one of the body mods with the head? i'm assuming yes
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>>738087456
All it does is replace the head with a larger one so you appear to have child proportions. You can use your vanilla body, you can use any body mod you want, it doesn't matter.
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>want to get the sage set from island sanctuary
>but i'm only halfway through its overall progression and don't want to ever deal with that shit again
Motherfuckers
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>>738087539
remember that when someone tells you runescape is fun
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>>738087495
thank you anons, very helpful. may you all be blessed
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>>738087578
go forth and become what you must. become the lowlander of light
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>>738087539
Sounds like hell. I thought Island Sanctuary was a chore back when there was a dedicated discord and you just copied someone's homework to max out the island in two weeks
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>>738087136
I mean, it sucks to live in any first world country at the moment. Not just Japan.
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>>738087539
Takes about a month of hardcore cheating and getting things into a full automated state. And months to get blue scrips to buy everything.
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>>738087539
I would tell you to just use the navigation mods and the island mod so you can import or manually create gathering paths and just AFK to get every material

and then there is a discord you can join that provides optimal weekly workshop creation things you can import so you can no brain that too

but honestly the effort to even bother setting up all that shit and still just going to the island every day/week is too much

the island is so fucking shit, it's honestly impressive how they managed to fuck it up so bad and make it so un-comfy
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>>738083902
Wax bullets actually
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>>738087790
That's every piece of content they add to the game
>hey what if we added animal crossing content
Sure, but lets ruin it with no animals to talk to, spreadsheet management and time gated gathering!
>what if we had mech fights in the gamr!
Sure but the characters will move slower than molasses and only have three unsatisfying moves to use!
And on and on and on
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>>738087741
there are degrees of 'suck' that you are simply not acquainted with
find two buildings and even one cliffside in your own state/province that features multi-tiered suicide prevention nets, i would be willing to wager that you cannot
japan is hell
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>>738084146
Thinking about the last patch and then comparing it to this, lol
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>>738081021
People said this we got Dawntrail.
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>>738088104
i want sphene
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Dawntrail as a dirty word makes me lol and go squee
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>>738088270
It actually makes you visibly angry considering you make posts like this in every single thread.
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Why do people keep trying to defend Dawntrail by claiming it has "good content", the content is the exact same thing and is so stale they are completely changing it for 8.0
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>>738088249
she was great but they already benched her. absolutely baffled why boring calyx is still around.
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>>738088403
>why do they like getting more of something they already like
Mystery for the ages
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>>738088419
They didn't bench her though. >>738086052
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>>738088419
technically they didnt bench her tho
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>>738086052
>>738088503
>>738088529
very well some patch guys said she was already i the codex or something
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>>738088403
Arcadion, 11 raids, trials are fun.
>>738088419
To be Halmarut's buddy
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Can't wait to make my first pf where I lock out rebornfags
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>>738088575
proof?
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>>738088575
So is every Scion.
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im tired boss... why can't I do all this shit in occult crescent? I hate dungeons.
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>>738088575
thats not really an indicator
a non-scion character getting a minion is the indicator that they're 100% done with that character
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>>738088606
>>738088650
That was probably me talking about and linking the end mention of her Codex.
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>>738070248
toxicon is a gain on 2
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>>738088650
Shit, is there a Wuk Lamat minion?
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>>738088734
there will be soon, he's the only character to be giving a "bye im fucking off" scene
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>>738088810
Wuk Lamat has a bagina bro
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>>738088403
They don't want you saying this out loud.
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>>738088734
no.......... but that minion talk is BS. Dress Yshtola might not do anything impactful but she has a minion
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>Yfw Hoary Bolder is a main character now and the new job rep and the first scion roe rep to be treated as a main character in all these years
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>>738088918
The Age of Hoary Boulder is Ishikawa's revenge for Maehiro killing Moenbryda in under a fucking patch
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>>738088886
its almost like she's a scion
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>>738088918
>Hoary spliting aenor anal cockbrune in a cutscene on one end while his brother is on the other side while clemence seethes.

kino

based.
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>>738088918
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>>738089001
Aenor literally going through roe threesome cock-withdrawal is the funniest thing in the whole game
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>>738088918
>In the coming battle, you will fight as Hoary Boulder.
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>>738088918
Please god let Hoary come with us. We need a roebro.
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>>738088734
going by patterns itll probably be with the next soundtrack or artbook release
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How cool would it be if the fight boss for Evercold is a 24 man like with Chaotic? Since, now that region dc pf and df has been introduce making it canon to the story just like how in Shadowbringers df and pf became canon with the fight with Emet?
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>the winterwolves are going to kill Coultenet
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>>738088918
What if the "Guess Who's Back" is literal quote, he's saying guess which character is back?
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>>738089075
One of the best bits of 7.5 was Aenor's sister calling her out for not being over her yaoi incest cocklust.
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>>738089175
i honestly hope they experiment with new msq content rather than the template they use
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>>738089212
HOARY BOULDER BECOMES A VIKING
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>>738089157
There's no way they'll have it be part of paid merch lol. They pussyfooting around Wuk/Smile stuff in Fanfest.
Koji was talking about the hardest song to write lyrics for was for all these reasons, and etc, and didn't even say the name directly, only with a pun, and moved on.
The encore for the Piano concert was Smile, they didn't announce it beforehand, so a few people were leaving (Probably a few dozen). It was a great cover desu. Amanda Achen's voice got a bit deeper so it's not a shrilly, it's really nice.
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>>738089212
Brother it goes deeper
>They finally update Grand Companys
>New highest rank added
>Marshal
>Marshal Mathers
>Guess whos back, back again

Hoary boulders gonna be our five star general.
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>>738087518
Just gotta grind Necron, Doomtrain, and Enuo
Necron and Doomtrain have the highest drop rate they are going to get, right?
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>>738088918
would be a good fit. we're lacking a tank main who's not thancred. could then bench g'raha
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>>738089421
Doomtrain should get another increase when they add his wings to the vendor.
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I AM MAKING A PREDICTION AND POINTING AT THE STANDS LIKE BABE RUTH BEFORE I TAKE MY SHOT, SCREENCAP AND CALL ME A FAGGOT FOR BEING WRONG LATER:

>Evercold will appear to be direct translocation, but thats only true in places where the barriers are thin.
>There was no major difference in 7.5 because we were right next to a planar fissure and went to the exact same point on the moon on the 13th next to the exact fissure on the other side
>So we assume the fourth will work the same way
>Halfway through the expansion the twist is we are in fact centuries in the past
>The people we think are the winterers end up being that shards warriors of light
>The young girl we have been helping the whole time is a sacrifice to the shards "gods" the ascians and her shrine maiden bullshit is just us unknowingly taking part in the black mask selection process
>We are the ones that make Halmarut into an ascian
>Shes a villain we created
>We go to the fourths future to stop her rejoining the shard
>With an elderly group of scions waiting
>We will have to make the choice to go back and save them from a miserable life on a frozen rock or stop the rejoining.
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>>738089368
>hello High grand marshal squid guardian tree desert nigga. Go pick up those turds on the sidewalk .

t. first class private quest giver.


why do you niggas want this
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>>738089615
You're a captain right now (assuming you play the game), so what's the difference?
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>>738089602
the only reason youre wrong is they dont do time dilation well and ignore it. its like gacha slop having a charcter go through millions of years of experience than dropping it next patch never mentioning it again.
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>>738089368
I like the idea of a Shield based job, like BD2's Shieldmaster.
They said it was "XIV Original", so not sure if they mean original to franchise of FF only or otherwise.
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>>738089615
>He never ranked up
>Doesn't have his character addressed as "Flame Seargant [insert surname here]" or whatever whenever he interacts with his grand company on quests.
I pity you, i do.
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>>738089648
captain picking up turds is better than a high flame marshal ghost face killer rza gza method man slayer of alphinauds bussy title
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>Only one crafted extreme weapon set this entire expansion
It's truly over for crafted extreme weapons, isn't it? I know they don't have a set schedule for them and the releases tend to be irregular, but they've never gone this long without adding one.
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>>738089748
I'm still impressed they went back and added Diamond weapons to Sigmascape 4.0 just for the Ultimate this time around instead of telling us to go fuck ourselves like with Alexander
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>shatter day
i will forever bitch about how they took a fucking dogshit frontline map and MADE IT WORSE
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>>738078249
this is blowing my mind now the item choices make sense for moogle events
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>>738089808
>i will forever bitch about how they took a fucking dogshit frontline map and MADE IT WORSE
Are you talking about Secure?
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>>738086052
Was Halmarut referring to the world being destroyed in general in 7.4 for the Solstice, or still referring to the Ninth, too?
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>>738089959
It's all the same event. The Ninth will be destroyed because it's collapsing back into the Source in the Solstice.
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How easy is it to get the judge armors nowadays?
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>rewatching the slow walk up to Metion at the end of Endwalker
>TALES OF LOSS AND FIRE AND FAITH
>lower head and close eyes
>multiple voices overlapping in the background, all your adventures and meetings leading to this moment

This is the kind of shit that keeps me away from just switching over to JP even though apparently it makes Wuk Lamat less annoying.

Lets finish this
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>>738089917
if secure is the one where you go slap robots in the middle, i've done that once since they remade it so my opinion is it is slightly better but still ass
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>>738078742
>he unironically plays as a female lala
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>>738084807
>>738085990
>>738086052
I want to believe.
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>>738089917
Original secure was great. Slaughter was some of the worst shit they've added to the game. Even the original diadem was better. Slaughter was just a complete design failure because it was a pvp mode that encouraged everyone to avoid pvp. Sitting around waiting was better than engaging in pvp. It was a shitty pve map where only black mages were viable.
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>>738062870
>I skipped DT. Is 8.0 looking good?
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They've been playing a lot of Kingdom Hearts, with some of the cinematography and VFX in 7.5
This is a really good thing, Kingdom Hearts has never been a slouch in special effects
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>>738090532
>Yoshi P was surprised people instantly saw all the norse references and thought it would be a surprise as japan has little knowledge of norse and celtic imagery.
really nigga?
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>>738086052
imagine the crowd reaction when they show the evercold trailer at jap fanfest and sphene appears alongside the WoL.
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Fuck xivvie gon do?
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>>738090693
Shareholders are you seeing this?
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>>738090738
WoW's idea of Fatalis armor
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So what function will the tree have? There's a tree on grandma's wall with frozen branches and then later in the trailer they show a big frozen thing that looks like it might be a tree. Do we use it to connect shards or something?
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>>738090738
>3d, non-painted on armor
is this a first for wow?
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>>738087938
I would easily take tokyo over some shithole like los angeles or toronto
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>>738090125
It's the worst example, it's just a mindless zergs trading capturing points back and forth
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>>738090738
Holy shit, even their joke mascot outfits are lower-quality than ours.
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>>738090831
Every shard, and the Source, have a World Tree. Ours is in Meracydia.
They'll be what we use to tie the world together again.
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FFXIV: Combat Devolved
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>>738075335
Could you at least post the c+ code you made and the body you used? I spent a decent amount of time trying to make it look pear shaped myself beforehand but I could never pull off what you posted. Best I got was at best some hebe with some slight ass.

>>738077732
>>738078384
That's not true, kittenmods has a decent amount of faces with the chunni ones being the higher quality ones I think (especially because there was an effort to fix the emotes where the lips don't look ridiculous like on koro's)
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>>738091047
Promising. Now make the Extremes easier too. As a casual there is literally nothing for me to do besides the Alliance raids
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>>738091139
Be glad, they're adding a middle difficulty to 8-man raids just for you.
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>>738090598
Makes sense when japs never leave their culture bubble.
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>>738090693
wtf
none of these areas look that cold
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>>738068989
This post was mine:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737546651/#q737553868

The anon who replied to me was right.
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>>738091221
Because they're on floating islands like the old lady says in the trailer.
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>>738091221
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>>738088630
>Getting 10 on alliance before High level dungeon.
Lucky.
I hate Crystal Tower so much it's unreal.
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>instead of simple zone lines, when you leave a zone by flying you'll be put onto a world map and fly between islands on an airship
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>>738091221
they're saving those
those areas might be like just 2-3 of the actual regions we go to
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We're finally getting the FF7 expansion
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>>738091221
They are all midgar style plates flying in the sky. The frozen surface will be dungeons and probably the next eureka like.
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>>738091373
Imagine if they broke away from the six large zones and made 9 smaller zones. Back to ARR zone design kino
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>>738091460
Oh boy, whats that second zone in eureka called that everyone hated? Hurray!
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>>738091460
>the rotting pizza is freezer burned
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>>738091505
i heard its a good place to grind light
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>>738091221
Granblue Fantasy logic. Floating islands are all beautiful but if you were to go to the actual ground level of the planet it's miserable. Although in GBF's case there's weird bird people and it's like a red desert.
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>>738089101
Fucked up how there isn't even a pure warrior class in ESO.
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>>738091505
Pagos was misunderstood. Fate farming was a mistake.
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>>738091505
Pagos? Some anons in here have yet to try it, sadly. If you're grinding a relic make sure to help pop Cassie!
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>>738091505
You mean the filter for idiots who didnt know how to walk past the dragons.
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>>738091221
>>738090693
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>>738091505
pagos was sovl
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>>738090532
>>738090693
>>738091578
>>738091661
>>738091661
>exploration world buildling kino immersion
>broken by red alphinauds bong smoking voice going OY ALFINO CONT SWIM. AYE HOOK YOU IN THE GABBA. WHERES MY MOPPET AT?

i hope shes benched hard.
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>After Zanarkand's defeat at the hands of Bevelle in a war that would become known as the Machina War, Yu Yevon, the ruler of Zanarkand and the most powerful summoner in the world, converted those of his people still alive into fayth and placed them on a wall on Mt. Gagazet. He used these new fayth to summon a dream world modeled after Zanarkand. With the power of the fayth's dream, he summoned all of the buildings and all of the people who had lived there to "preserve" Zanarkand for all time. Afterward Yu Yevon summoned an armor around himself to ensure nothing would interfere with his summoning, Sin.

Calling it now, this will be one of the Winterer's plan.
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MALE OR FEMALE
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>>738091792
(fe)male
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>>738091742
Is this going to be a FFX themed expansion?
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>>738091742
callint it now. youre wrong.

theyll just reuse the ff 16 assets.
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>>738091792
I'm a male with a male character
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>>738091624
There was a bunch of things it did that put people off. Might be remembering wrong or forgetting the biggest offenders.
>To curb the NM trains, only one NM can spawn at a time. They undid this afterwards.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yngabiBfAy9sO9WzbCjq08msOyFv565igP3MpZJVc5k/edit?usp=sharing
>The teleports in the north were very high level to unlock
>Very little crystals from the NMs, and I don't think NMs gave light in the beginning?
>No mount until completing the story (was true for all of Eureka until they changed it an expansion later
>The map design with the vertical drops to Louhi and other NMs were very offputting, even if you sneak past dragons, was still a shitton of high level mobs that would one-shot you (way before BA gear was a thing).
It's had the most amount of nerfs across Eureka, buffing light gain and other stuff. I did catch up in all of Eureka relics at end of EW, that was super fun to do. I focused on getting Warrior to full +2 first, so I could solo everything in Pagos/Pyros, especially massive light farms.
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>>738091492
It will be 6 large zones. And then they will add the last 3 in the 8.x patches as field operation zones
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>>738091624
To be honest I do agree that the map itself was shit. The idea of grouping up and grinding mobs was fine, what was not fine was designing whole map on purpose to be annoying to navigate.
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>ITS THE BREAK THE GLASS FF7 EXPANSION
>ITS THE ILSABARD GARLEAN EXPANSION
>ITS THE FF 10 EXPANSION

you guys are mongoloid secondaries.
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>>738091728
Alisaie is the worst scion right now bar none. Alphinaud isn't much better but at least we have our history together while Alisaie just kind of barged in and the game pretends like we have the same type of relationship with Alisaie as we have with Alphinaud.
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Anon in a previous thread that was asking about specs so I could swap from PS5 to ultrawide high if not max settings
Upgraded my ram from 16 to 32 because of a mispricing at walmart making it $160 cheaper. What piece to replace next?
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>>738091913
To specify about first point. "They undid this afterwards" is in regards to Pyros/Hydatos. Pagos still only allows 1 NM at a time (aside from Snow Queen)
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>>738091913
That was mostly to break up the fate trains, devs wanted for playerbase to level up by grinding mobs.
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>>738092058
Aye, and here's the nerfs they did to Pagos back in 4.5.
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>>738091985
this. and nanamo. i never felt she was a friend of the wol. its weird.
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>>738091578
This post reads like a mentally ill tripfag doing a dog whistle for some completely unrelated thing
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>>738091985
Doesn't she have a history of the wol with the coils of Bahamut? I've never done it but she mentions it when shes barging in.
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>>738092381
Couldn't help but reply, could you? What did you do in Final Fantasy today?
Oh, nothing? Again?
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>>738092441
Yeah you help solve her grandpa issues with Binding Coils, it's about the only time she shows up in ARR
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>>738092207
I enjoyed the mob grind, most of my leveling up was with that and eureka was the best place to make money.
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>>738092621
I got the funds for my large house via grinding out rabbits in Eureka
Love that place
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>>738091578
>>738092445
chort
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Are plugins back?
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>>738093171
yes
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>>738093165
GET DA FUCK OUDDA HEAR CHORT YOU FUGGIN MALOOK!
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>>738093165
fucker ate all 9 cans of ravioli
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>>738093165
We love him
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>>738093165
I want a Chort mount and you logroll run on top of him while he spin dashes
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>>738093165
Hes a big guy
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WE WANT CHORT! WE WANT CHORT! WE WANT CHORT!
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>>738093165
This is the guy that hates lalas
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Still a bit odd to me that DT ended up being the V/IX/XI expansion.
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>>738093165
Finally. A ffxiv character i can actually cosplay as.
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>>738091728
>OY ALFINO CONT SWIM. AYE HOOK YOU IN THE GABBA. WHERES MY MOPPET AT?
dubtard
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>looking at ult recruitment because static disbanded after out 8 weeks of M12S
>look at their logs
>90% of them were not even playing in SB, let alone cleared O8S during 4.2/4.3
Like, you can MINE or swap out for weaker gear to get a feel for mechs but I'm not going to trust someone who wasn't there because the mechs aren't ingrained. It's been 8 years and I can still do all roles F2 in my head.
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>>738094028
experience means jack shit in this game with how low the skill ceiling is. Anything the game can throw at you, you can learn in a couple of attempts if you're not retarded.
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>>738094028
>>90% of them were not even playing in SB
maybe it's time to take the hint unc
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>>738094028
Like 90% of my friend list are raiders from SB and majority of them don't log in at all or just log in to do the story.
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Sphene has to be coming with for Evercold since Calyx is also going to the Fourth and that one message you see in that director's diary in 7.5 mention how Calyx was against making Sphene an endless is left unresolved.
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>>738094569
Calyx is against the idea of memory backups because he can't reconcile the two ideas that memories and personhood are inextricable with the fact that memories can also be backed up and the Lifestream treats them as garbage data
He's careful to call his own specific immortality as a consciousness transfer but as far as we know it's just a memory backup same as the Endless and anybody else that ever manually backed up their memories
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>>738094569
Speen copers are the new Krilecucks lmaoooo she is not joining.
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>>738094675
I done chorted myself
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Looking forward to evolved mode desu. Will be nice to play the game without having to press 40 different buttons that all do the same thing or just cheat.
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>>738094809
My left hand is shaped to be doing Shift + 1/2/3 so much that it hurts to put a glove on that hand.
I actually stopped doing serious raiding as Monk in this expansion cause I could feel the wear/tear at a mid-30s boomer.
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>>738094569
Speen is the new Rdps.
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>>738093165
big nigga chort
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>>738094867
Just get an mmo mouse, unc.
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>>738094809
Muscle memory is too built-up. Even for PVP hotbars I put the buttons where they go in PVE, or at least as much as I can between similar ones.
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>>738094867
>shift+1234
>not ctrl
>he didnt disable his windows key to palm ctrl
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>>738094867
Not being funny but they should have done this a long, long time ago. More buttons most definitely does not equal more fun, especially when it's just DMG+10 -> DMG+12 -> DMG+15 -> Repeat. Guild wars 2 figured that shit out back in 2012 or whenever the fuck it released.
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>>738091034
>Ours is in Meracydia.
But we already have a tree tied to the Lifestream
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The aesthetic for Evercold is literally top tier.
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>>738062870
talk me out of making an alt
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>>738095034
In Meracydia, yeah. Sephirot is embodiment of it.
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>>738094867
>>738094809
>>738094974
CONTROLLER MASTERRACE
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>>738095125
WHM?
Shtola burrito?
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>>738062870
>so yeah, the empire killed all your friends and kidnapped your team
>do a mash rush to get where theya re and get them back??
>hell no, you are going to do a 2h maimquest about some airship and a priest with some crystal shit on coerthas
So, this is why people say ARR is ass, I understand that is a background for heavesword, but by god it is awful to do this at this moment.
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>>738095186
That's just a baby bitch tree used to hold a really angry elemental.
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>>738095094
That tea gonna be so cold by the time she's drank 1/10th of it.
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>>738094867
i ended up buying foot pedals for xiv and muscle trained myself to use those as shift/ctrl
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>>738094809
i just started playing and the amount of skill you need to use with dragoon is ridiculous, so yeah I’m looking forwards to evolve.
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>>738095218
>you suddenly get blindsided by game of thrones political backstabbing while spending the entire story power fantasying as a god slaying champion
>your friends are scattered, possibly dead, and you find yourself as a refugee in an isolated xenophobic kingdom only because one of the guys you helped on your journey owed you a favor
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>>738095023
hopefully this means bosses will be more active and the game will tranform into a more action oriented design going forward
FUCK DPS ROTATIONS
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Been learning the game on controller through the free trial. Might just resub to relearn the game at higher level on controller. This is literally so comfy.
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>>738095249
You think
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>>738095567
>You think
Not really
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>>738095493
Hopefully this means that people can't be carried by ACT and plugins anymore to play future unscripted fights.
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>>738095474
my problem with the whole premise is that I’m a level 54 already and alredy wearing a full dragoon set, so its kinda breaks my immersion when they treat me as some low level knight when I’m literally wearing a dragon slayer set earned by beaten the other dragoon, I known that is mmo storytelling, but yeah is kinda ass.
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>>738095656
That's because they fucked up ARR exp gain to cater to newfags who screech when they have to play a dungeon.
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>>738062870
From what we can see so far? Yea.
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>>738095474
he's talking about dzmael stronghold, not the banquet
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>>738095718
You're still a nobody in Ishgard regardless of that, regardless of two Azure Dragoons vouching for you. Estinien recognizing you doesn't have a lot of bearing on events. No real getting around it since jobs that aren't Dragoon exist (unfortunately)
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>>738073765
It's not running away.
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>>738079351
I have no idea why I, as Dragoon, need to stick a fat dick in the rest of my party's ass and give them a buff.
Or wait for them to do the same to me.
It's boring.
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What's more fun, dragoon, dark knight, or samurai?
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>>738096089
SAM
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You now manually remember the DT harvest festival boat and craftsman goblin village MSQs
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>>738096170
He is NOT gonna like this post...
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>>738081021
yeah man i want the scion b team
with... uh
roegadyn
and other roegadyn
and their traits are that they're roegadyn
and that one chick whose entire defining trait is that she wants to be dicked by roegadyn, and her sister, whose only defining trait is that she's embarrassed by her sister
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Wow there's a lot of people at Sol 9. More than I am used to seeing
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>>738094974
I did. Found an image to show how I did all of it.
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>>738096213
As a roegadyn player I would love this
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>>738083326
>the devs are singing the praises of all their new staff and juniors on their social media
the new staff and juniors that came about as a result of more funding by kiryu or wha?
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>>738095182
Steam input will take care of most things but I hope SE implements official support for the steam controller like with the dualsense
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>>738083879
>doesn't join because he doesn't want to scare the other voidsent, so he just stands there like a lost autist
Durante-kun is moe. MOE!
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>>738093165
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>>738095186
>Shtola burrito?
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>>738096249
i may not have the level of autism needed for this.
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>>738073597
>DT should have been alternate starting point.
not only is a new start fucking gay go back to your lobby games, but DT is also an awful start considering you've all been crowing that it's the worst thing ever put out into this world
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>>738088630
>Keep doing OC
>Keep getting the gems
>Add an NPC that buys the gems and gives you Aetherwell
Seems like an obvious idea
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>>738096463
You keep saying XIV being a lobby game is great though.
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>>738096521
Who is "you"
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>>738088270
>>738088403
hmm
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>>738096585
Not related to him
I take great pleasure in posters that pretend Dawntrail infected them with HIV
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>>738091047
It was expected, now control players get to have their entire rotation + sprint and LB in a single button set
Kinda weird there's not a third sub menu tied to LT+RT
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>>738091139
Try variant advanced and Pilgrim's Traverse
And when EC is out, try the new middle raid tier
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>>738093165
aaaaa we do love our man chort
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>>738096256
hoary is actually one of the least offensive b-team scions.
it's the one that's a cocklust joke that I would never want around me 24/7.
yeah we get it haha you want roe dick we've been hearing it since ARR literally you dumb cunt we're talking about the world endign and all you can do is lust after roe dick.
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See you in the next thread. I love you guys!
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i hope i can kill Guillaime on heavensword
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>>738096936
The fuck did he do to you?
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I know I'm gonna be called Xeno or Xeno fanboy, but I do find it weird that WAR is OT. GNB I can easily get and maybe DRK too, but WAR has always been so MT coded in my brain I'm gonna have to get used to it.
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>>738096963
make me wasted my time
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>>738096980
Look at answers video and tell me Warrior wasn't an off-tank.
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>>738096935
FORESHADOWING
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>>738096905
What headpiece is that avatar lala?
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WAR is still cooler than PLD.
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>>738097264
Frontier ribbon
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>>738097264
That one skinwalks as an avatarfag, doubt he knows
Piece is Frontier Ribb--
>>738097369
FUCK
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the warrior seethe is great, but imo dark knight could have visually worked as an mt too since they're aesthetically full plate and actually go for a full helmet
my hope is the ot label lets them do something really flavorful in exchange
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>>738097497
Their new kits are taking inspiration from the PvP kits, I'm betting Evolved DRK will have actual HP sacrifice moves
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>>738062870
Lalafells won
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>>738097497
DRK and GNB feel like borderline blue DPS in theme, so OT fits them just fine imho.
>>738097574
Sounds neat.
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>>738097692
Based!
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>>738097369
>>738097451
>Frontier Ribbon

Thanks anons.
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>>738097736
Evil Vizzers big funni
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>>738096935
With the skill acquisition level changes in mind, I'm guessing they wanted the absolute new players to have access to an OT and MT before getting into HW
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>>738098123
That actually makes some sense.
Though other than CT, there isn't really a situation where I can see that it might be relevant?
Dungeons are 4man, and COB can't be done in DF. Trials and CT?
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>>738098228
They already said it isn't going to matter in anything but savage and ultimate.
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>>738098282
That's also true, but I was just considering it from anon's perspective.



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