I'M GONNA ____ PRAXIS
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I have never played these games. Can someone give me a qrd on why this line became a massive meme?
>>738066106it's the first line of dialogue jak speaks in jak 2. in jak 1 he was a happy go lucky silent protagonist.
>>738066106the games are free and the best way to play them right NOW is natively on PC.I'm not spoonfeeding you, lazy fuck.
>>738066106First game is a light-hearted fantasy mascot platformer about stopping dark wizards, with Jak as a silent protagonist. Second game starts out with him and co. getting transported into a sci-fi dystopia, him getting caught by the local authorities, then being experimented and tortured for months or years, I can't recall. His animal friend finally saves him in the intro and the first thing he utters in the series is a death threat, followed by briefly transforming into his new devil trigger mode before regaining his senses. Huge whiplash, but granted, it's kind of played as a joke in the game as well.
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>>738065625Impregnate
Is... i-is that... JAK???!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!HOLY FUCCCKKKKKKKKK JAK YESSSSSSSSSSSS OH MY HOLY FUCKING GOD FUCKING JAK YESSSSSSSSSSI LOOOOOOOOOVE JAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CRAAAVE JAK!!!!!!!! I'M A JAK BEAST!!!!!! I'M A JAK MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!! I'M A JAKBRAIN!!!!!!!!!!! I'M JACKING OFF OH MY FUCKING GOD
>modern Naughty Dog would have you slaughter the entire Krimson Guard only to reach Praxis and forgive him so you don’t continue the cycle of hate and revenge
>>738065625RAPE
>>738067003sounds almost JUST like praxis desuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7crrURKVoI
So did Samos just forget that this guy was the metal head leader?
Doesn't Jak not even kill Praxis? I only played the game once when it came out but I remember a scene where you find him already dying because the metal heads are in the city and Jak is like "damn I guess we're not so different you and I" or something
>>738068850He doesn't kill him because the leader did a fatal blow on Praxis; and it's less of "not so different" and more about a shared enemy kind of thing
>>738068850He didn't turn into purple, so maybe he actually didn't die.
>>738065625>PRAXIS, I'M COMING TO KILL YOU, AT YOUR FORTRESS>>in a game right?>NO IN REAL LIFE
>>738068850Other way around. The Baron does get fucked up by Metal Heads and Jak doesn't get the killing blow, however he doesn't get to comment anything before the guy expires. The Baron instead entrusts Jak with the crystal as he considers him his greatest creation, and it's kind of implied all the evil shit he did was for the purpose of exterminating Metal Heads.
>>738066735>but granted, it's kind of played as a joke in the game as well.is it?
>>738069560Yeah
>>738069560Considering that Daxter just says "Remind me to never piss you off" in an annoyed manner rather than anything else, yeah
That line lives rent free in my head
>>738069560Can't recall the exact wording, but Daxter's line preceding Jak's when he's trying to wake the latter up are roughly something like>Say something, Jak! JUST THIS ONCE.which is Daxter telling Jak to speak despite believing him to be mute.
>>738066106Imagine if Link spoke in the next game and his first line was "FUCK GANON"
>>738070071Daxter makes several jokes throughout the game referencing how Jak used to be a silent protagonist. Immediately after that scene, Jak threatens Kor for information and Daxter says "Sorry, he's new to the whole conversation thing."
The series should’ve stayed like 1 instead of a gta ripoff
>>738070530It would have been quickly forgotten if that happened. Granted, it's still forgotten now by normalfags, but the sequels gave us Ashelin
>>738070690I'm still peeved that they randomly decided to pair Ashelin with Jak in 3 because Keira got shelved due to her VA having some real life stuff and being unavailable. They were obviously planning on Jak-Keira and Torn-Ashelin pairings by the end of 2.
>>738070530We at least got a sequel. The devs were originally planning on making a new IP but the higher ups wanted them to stick with Jak for brand recognition.
>>738070072That would actually be cringekino
>>738065625There is a direct line of influence from this line to The Last of Us Part 2.
>>738070897Akabur is such a hack...
playing Jak 2 is genuine cock and ball torture. Every fucking mission is 'that mission'
>>738067076That's kinda what actually happens in the game though.
>>738070860Jewish staff members wanted Tara Strong instead.
>>738071151I recall the sewer escort mission and that one slum escape being the banes of my existence as a kid, but somehow managed to clear both on first try when replaying the game a year or so ago.
>>738066801Based hillbilly.
>>738071283Ugly botox 3DPD monstrosity
>>738065625Love playing these games on Opengoal. Shame no Sly/Ratchet native PC.
i always liked just cruising around the city the ambient music was nice>>738071151ptsd
>>738071719I wonder what that green star isand why the HD remasters for the PS3/Vita forgot about it
>>738071151Jak II isn't that bad outside of some driving missions and the mandatory Onin minigame. But, hey at least you can say it's a memorable game.
>>738071795i always thought it was just a really bright star
has anyone found all the precursor orbs? could never unlock the later stuff because i kept missing them
>>738071937People thought this was hard?
>>738072053>play 2 for the first time>only find like 15 or 20 orbs without really looking for them but grabbing them if I see them>find out later there's like fucking 200 of them and a ton of missable onesIt was there that I knew I would never 100% complete that game
>>738071151I'd really love to know what the playtesting for Jak 2 was like and to hear some excuses for why there's no health pickups anywhere and basically no checkpoints in any level
>>738072053>>738072229Didn't they have more orbs than unlocks in 2 and 3? The unlocks in the second game for example cap out at 200, but there's more orbs than that total. If I'm not remembering wrong, some of them were hidden really well, near out of out of bounds areas that you could only access by doing "that kid" level bullshit like killing the submarine that normally instakills you if you try to go out of bounds.
>>738072349I imagine it might have been in response to the first game having checkpoints every 5 feet which made death and the HP system almost completely pointless.
>>738072229A lot of them are also hidden behind getting high scores in the various mini-games.
>>738070530I agree. Imagine where the series could have gone.
>>738071151i just replayed it and the one where you have to destroy 5 hellcats without dying aggravated me the most
>>738072543The health system in 1 was really bad too. Imagine playing Mario 64 and having to pick up 50 coins to heal 1 HP, it's basically how it worked in Pak and Daxter.
>>738072638I like how this guy just got retconned out of being Jak's uncle and completely forgotten. Granted he wasn't important at all in the first game either, but it makes it even more clear how the orphan thing was invented for the sequels.
>>738072513>>738072229Why is this okay in Jak II but the hidden boxes in Crash 4 bad?
>>738070530About a year ago, I'd've agreed, but I just recently finished Jak 2 and it honestly grew on me (my biggest problem wasn't even the tone shift, moreso I didn't find the hub world engaging). That said Jak 3 sucks ass.
>>738072681But also it doesn't matter because you resapwn almost exactly where you died with full health and you lost none of the collectables you got so far and mission progress isn't even reset.
>you aight, jak, you got the n-pass from me any day of the week>keep it out yo mouth, daxter
>>738072774Because if you collect an orb in Jak 2, you've collected it for good. If you miss a single box in Crash 4, you have to replay the entire level, as well as get all the crates you already collected. Also, the programming team was too retarded to not reload the entire level if you restart without hitting a checkpoint.
>>738072681NTA but Precursor Legacy's health system is defiantly better balanced to its games overall (lack of) difficulty compared to Jak II's.
>here's your cut spider colossus, bro
>>738072964Honestly, Jak II's health system is a bit weird. Since almost everything does two pips of damage, you only have the same amount of health as fully healed Jak 1
>>738072805Your enjoyment of Jak II is predicated on how much you can tolerate its hub world. PL and Jak 3 did their hub worlds better.
>>738073020>Well Daxter my old friend>It's finally over>We've answered the mystery of The Precursor Legacy™>and we've defeated the last of our enemies
>>738072178In order to get all the orbs you basically gotta get a score of 1000. Not hard but annoying and tediious. The minigame that truly pissed me off was the Whack-A-Mole one.
Jak II and III's balance sucks balls. You're WAY to OP at all times and anything not a boss poses zero threat. Once you realize how the ammo system works you can just spam peace maker on 90% of all enemies.
>>738066106It's literally the first line of dialogue Jak gets in the series after 2 years of being tortured. The first game was a light-hearted collectathon with Jak as the silent protagonist.
>>738073056So Jak II actually has the same health system as PL, but with a more honest (but misleading) UI. lolSeems on-brand for Jak II
>>738073364If you fuck around too much while fighting the Krimzon Guard they will get lucky shots and kill you. First they start off pursuing and trying to taze you. The longer it goes they shoot first. Kill enough and they bring in the slim hover cars, then the gigantic Hellcat Cruisers. And they have pinpoint accuracy.
>>738069560Despite taking an edgier shift in the next couple games, the humor remains consistent.
>>738072178Dumb baby kid me did.
>>738065625AUDIT
>>738071056>He's trying to trick us into playing his lesbo gameNice try, Neil.
I think it's funny that PL is the only game in the trilogy where you can shoot in the first person view. A game with one (1) power up that lets you shoot a heavily aim-assisted projectile lets you aim and shoot in first person, but the two sequels that are built around gunplay do not let you do this.Jak was a weird series.
>>738073089It helped that the main theme of the hubworld was really good.
>>738073862Always hated the accompanying music during this section and when you're in the Lost City and the Dark Eco in the chamber starts to rise. Its like they wanted to give you crippling anxiety. Playing this and Gauntlet back to back gave me some kind of early childhood nervousness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llIS8helFzU&list=RDllIS8helFzU&start_radio=1
>>738071245Jak doesn’t really forgive him. He understands that there’s a bigger evil pulling the strings of everything that went wrong in the world and agrees with the Baron that it needs to be stopped, but you can tell that Jak was disappointed he didn’t get to kill Praxis himself.
>>738073089Kinda wild how much of the map was gutted by metal head invasions in Jak 3
>>738073621I'M GONNA KILL ABBY*doesn't kill Abby* I've never watched or played TLoU games or series, so I don't know what happens in them.
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>>738065625>>738071719I played this game long ago and the only thing I really remember about it is running around the city and this slum area and hijacking cars kek
>>738073862Both Jak 2 and 3 have some minigames where you're controlling a turret in 1st person
>Jak can get shot at with energy beams, fall over a hundred feet, get slapped around by giant monsters and robots the size of buildings and get hit by large incoming, flaming boulders and still get back up as a teenager>also gets knocked out by one krimzon guard that pistolwhips him How strong was that guard?
>>738074345Extreme jet lag from time travel, please understand
>>738074305Yeah, but in PL you can shoot in 1st person turret mode, at will.
>>738065625I fucking love these gamesevery single one of them except the PSP game, fuck that
>tfw just closed OpenGOAL after having finished the second one3rd one downloading as we type
>>738075402I just finished it actually. A bit more bugs then 2 but nothing terrible.It made me realized my god I hat the desert. The driving physics suck ass and its just not fun dealing with those endlessly spawning bandit vehicles.
>>738074232I always put on the Jak trilogy OST when I do chores and it makes the time go faster every time.
>>738075538You know, Jak was probably 3 or 4 when he went back in time with Samos. Assuming Keira is Samos' biological daughter, that means he must have banged a local woman immediately to make her. Either way, Jak is at least 4 years older than Keira.
>>738075158Hey, it wasn't that bad yeah I know what you're actually referring to lol
>>738075834Or Keira's his adopted daughter.
>>738065625Circumcise
Look at how they massacred my boy
>>738076021what the fuck is that shit
>>738075837Daxter is awesome right up until you get to the final level and it's just nothing but SHOCKINGLY bad stealth.
>>738076021We do NOT speak of "that which shall not be named."
how did dark eco not turn jak into an ocelot
>>738076045Shitty psp game that gutted most of Jak's moveset, gave some bullshit reason for why he couldn't turn Dark Jak anymore, made a bunch of enemies that are essentially the same thing, then even gave Daxter a dark eco monster form. The game is so wholly divorced from the rest of the series that most just pretend it never existed.
>>738076127Daxter was a miracle, pretty much everyone else just got fucked up by it.
>>738066106The first game was generic Scrimblo Jimbo slop so ND decided to be original with their sequel, to mixed reception
>>738076207Game honestly would have been so much better if it was purely plane stuff with no ground mechanics at all. Its like imagine Jak X with a gutted version of Jak 2/3 gameplay inside it.
>>738068850Am I retarded or isn’t Praxis literally Jak’s father?
>>738076127The Baron's experiments were probably more sophisticated than just dunking Jak right into a vat of dark eco like happened with Daxter. Other than that dark eco in general seems to have random mutating effects, with Daxter getting very lucky.
>>738076127Jak is an eco conduit and was basically put through a grueling super soldier program of concentrated, small doses of dark eco over a period of two years. Daxter had less than a 1% chance of survival and got extremely lucky. Jak can jump back into the stuff as can Daxter and both die if you do.
>>738076360What? Jak 3 makes it VERY clear that Damas
>>738076360No. You're misremembering and mixing up Praxis for the desert tribe leader dude in Jak 3.
Dax lucked out bigtime
Jak 2 is kino and I’m tired of pretending otherwise
>>738076570holy cow they had rtx reflections on a ps2 woah mama
>>738076570games will never be this based again
>>738072229100% in Hero Mode should be considered a form of punishment. I could never fucking gold rank anything in this game. The sound the target cutouts make when you shoot them is tattooed to my brain
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>>738065625FORGIVE
>>738076570He should've gone with Taryn
Dark makers were dumb. They should've either kept the Metal Heads as the primary enemy or if using Dark makers, have Gol and Maia be their leaders. Errol got done dirty.
>>738076908>visible thongThis is a peak 90's to 2000's girl trait that ND would never even entertain the idea of revisiting now.
>>738077002>the last sexy ND girl>turn her into a lesbian with a nigress in a spin off
>>738071151Jak 2 was actually terrible gameplay wise and it is even worse with age. The sudden tone shift was more then fine and could have made it caught on but the gameplay probably killed the series. I have siblings and we all loved Jak 1 and liked Jak 2 until we played it. None of us have ever played a Jak game after Jak 2.
>>738077215Isn't Jak 2 exactly the same as Jak 1 movement wise, just with an addition of guns that you can use while meleeing shit? Aside from a bigger focus on vehicles due to the open world city, but the areas outside that are your usual Jak levels with platforming focus.
Jesus christ what do they do to her?
>heartbeat sound effect
>>738065625fuck ashelin. atleast she wouldnt have cucked jak with a pirate (thanks neil)>>738077002>whale tailsworst part is women show 10 times more skin these days and yet they are burka-wearin frisgebodies in vidya (gacha doesnt count)
>>738077401See the anon I was quoting>playing Jak 2 is genuine cock and ball torture. Every fucking mission is 'that mission'You are right about how the character controls were the same but now you had guns. The issue were the levels were awful. I have not played the game since we were kids but I just remembered we all fucking hated the game. And we really wanted to love it like we loved Jak 1.
>use mass inverter to upskirt spargus women>nothing modeled
>>738077421She went from 'How to draw anime' to 'just FUCK my shit up at Calarts' I got the impression someone in the writing or whatever just hatred Keira since jak 1 and wanted to ruin her, the VA thing not helping
>>738072858>>738072638
>>738076570It was a better time.
I've been replaying the games on my vita tv, just cause I heard the ports were really bad and I wanted to see how bad they are.Jak and Daxter isn't really any glitchy, but it lags and there's a bad input lag you can use touch input to play some of the minigames, which got me curious to try some of them on my actual vita and I swear to god the fishing minigame is actually EASY with touch input.I think I remember people said 2 was the really bad one in the port I can't wait to see it.
>>738070530People say shit like this without remembering how much of a direct improvement 2 was over 1. And then shockingly 3 was also really fun with the vehicles.
How come Jak never told Keira that Erol was one of the douches who helped Praxis torture Jak for 2 years? She would've quit defending him if he told her that.
>>738081247>3 was also really fun with the vehiclesDriving around in an empty desert between every mission in a shitty dune buggy that randomly drifts every five seconds is absolutely not fun
>>738081325It is absolutely fun you fucking dumbass. I loved the feeling of driving across a desolate ruined planet only occasionally finding hostile life.
>>738081306>why didn't Jak tell the girl he liked about how the famous badboy racing star dominated and emasculated him for years?Because Jak is dark-ecopilled and understands that telling her that would have just made her lose respect for him and become more attracted to Erol.
>>738081373Boy, do I have the game for you
>>738081247>direct improvement 2 was over 12 has quite possibly the worst hub area in platformer history.
>>738065625SNEED
jak & daxter was pure soul in its original iteration and everything since has been straight downgrade
Choose
>>738067080That's your answer to everything
>>738081814>in platformer historyWoah there, I'm not a huge fan of Haven City myself, but let's not get hyperbolic
>>738081975
>>738081975maia all the way
>>738081247>a direct improvement 2 was over 1They are too different structurally and mechanically to compare like this, but saying 2 is a direct improvement is too much.
>>738081403This. Jak is the story of 2 young boys, one with hyper ADHD, the other so autismo he doesn't even talk They reach adolescense, Jak embraces the dark pill thrust on him becoming a brooding sigma thugmaxxer while Daxter somewhat light eco pilled never lets go of his jester persona and practices daygame as hard as he can thinking pickup artistry is the ticket to finally scoring hitting on any chick he sees Jax never has the heart to tell his bro to tone down the goofy shit, it's fun among them but he's often scaring the hoes and in the face of a legit psycho daytrader nepobaby like Erol he knows he's not the badboy Keira wants the dark ego thing was forced upon him, he's got the heart of a good country kid not a monster so he holds his frame throughout even if she won't acknowledge his realness at last Torn and Sig do he has his boys, even having to ignore a bad bitch like Ashlyn but I suppose it all works out in the end
>>738081975Kiera because she gave me my first boner when she walked in during the intro of J&D 1
>>738077448
>>738069687He also makes another comment some time later saying something along the lines of: "This whole conversation/talking thing is new for him"
>>738082685Based. My first childhood crushes were Roll from Megaman Legends 2 and Keira in Jak 1 and 2.
>>7380812473 was fun, but way too damn short>>738081325The dune buggy driving was so fun that they made an entire game with just racing.
>>738082678>he's often scaring the hoesDaxter scores two hoes over the series with his antics. Chicks love funny guys more than assertive guys.
>>738082935The driving controls and level design in Jak X is far superior to that in Jak 3.
>>738065625This thing's design was so awful. I'm glad this IP died
>>738068481It's been years since I played it but I guess the excuse is he needed the events to play out properly to ensure they get back to the past etc. If he tried to out Kor early then they might not be able to get the precursor stone etc.
Reminder that it's not a gas mask and you can see his mouth.
>>738083253>british comedy
>>738077421I'm still mad, she was probably my only videogame crush as a kid and as early as 2 they were fucking her up.
>>738081142I remember there's a mission in 3 (maurader stronghold I think) where it went to single digit fps on my Vita.
we were fucking robbed of short-haired ashelin
>>738070072>I’m gonna fuck Ganon!
woah a decently sized Jak thread, that happens once in a blue moon.i wish naughty dog was still able to create games ike these
>>738085254the games are nothing like the fanart that floods this threads tho
>>738085772You're right. They're better.
>>738085772hmm ive not seen too much if any jak art that focuses on the actual enviroments from the games.
>>738069293kek
>>738065625>I'M GONNA LYNCH THAT FUCKING NIGGER PRAXIS Jesus Christ no wonder Jak was a mute for so long
would you play a Jak 4?
>>738083869don't remind me
>>738086681I have scottish bulldyke fatigue>>738086583as long as it's more like Jak 3 than 1 or "the cuck frontier"? absolutely
>>738086913If they do make one it should be more like jak 2, just with better checkpoints and toned down difficulty spikes. Jak 3 goes to far in making the game easy
They should have been the final boss of Jak 3
>>738066106Tonal whiplash.Jak 1 is a kid-friendly light-hearted game and Jak is a silent kid who just wants to breakdance with his best friend. Jak 2 is the opposite of that and a GTA-like. This is the first thing Jak ever says. It's like Mario saying he's gonna murder Bowser but actually follow through.
>>738068850He TECHNICALLY does or was about to until the metalhead old man reveals himself as the big bad
>>738087110nah, but anything would have been better than errol
>>738087110They were originally supposed to be if you would believe it. J&D 3 had a fucked dev cycle but the original plot was to have them be the world ending threat that shows up at the end instead of the dark makers. J&D 3 was also supposed to be about a race war to decide the planet with the precursors being evil and instigating it (hence why the prince guy would come back as a cyborg). It was also supposed to involve a sort of farcry type area control system where missions were all about reclaiming parts of the city for the human faction.
>>738069687>YEEESH WAT WAS THAAAT!?
>>738086681that just makes her look like a dyke
>>738081975easiest choice of my life, keira
>>738076021look at how they kino'd my boy
>>738087303Errol would be like if Boba Fett suddenly became the main villain out of nowhere
>>738087501meds
>>738066106Jak series swallowed the 2000’s edge pill HARD after 1. The tone shift from Jak 1 to 2 is massive.
>>738088367It really isn't, the beginning of 2 is just a big meme
>>738081975Ashelin and it's not even close. Pretty sure she was my sexual awakening. Big titty slutty bossy redhead elf women owe me sex.
>>738088441This, there are people on both extremes who call Jak 1 a "babby game" or Jak 2 "ultra edgy". In reality, it's a jump from TV-G to TV-PG.
>>738089429based
