VSAV GRANDS ON NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-bVnJbuUNUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsAqJyDQT18
BARRETO MUST KACHIDA
fuck bulleta
Will the noble samurai put an end to the psycho loli menace?
>>738065840if only I could
Bishamon player looks like he's on rage mode.
Let's go Bishamon
darkstalkers=boomer strive
>>738065727I think I'll learn vsav after today. Is felicia nice?
>>738066007Unironically but much faster.
>>738066028Anyone is fine to pick except Anakaris
>>738065727she's hilarious to watch
Who do you think will be revealed next for Tokon?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Get fucked, Bulleta.
Rip
It's over, Bulletabros...But we got this the US EVO.
VSAV GRAND FINAL IS LIVE
>>738065727how come i never see bald japanese players
>>738066360we just saw the baldest japanese player
this is making me want to play vsav again and go retard mode on sasquatch
>>738066436i missed that character what does he do
God damn
>>738066462War crimes
VSAV the GOAT
Bishamon vs the loli army.
One more match to win.
It's Flaturday. Lilith has to win this
>>738066462he dashes at you with his retarded dash and then mixes you to death
WINNER
Flat supremacy
LILITH SUPREMACY
Wow
Vsav's speed seems so jarring compared to most of the side and main games so far
LILITHBROS
That's it bros, im buying this fig in celebration
A real hot as fuck waifu wins. Justice
LOLIS WIN
This a pretty good day 2 and good top 8s. Awesome to watch.
Len at long last will save the fgc. Anyway, anyone want to play +R?
>>738066809do you play zappa
>>738066809NA?
i hope next years retro game is project justice (roy banned)
Lilith truly was the Vampire Savior
>>738065727>Tifa's birthday is tomorrowYep, it's happening
That's all for today. Stay tuned for day 3!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFEFbZC298
>>738066880Yes but I'm on Sol for now>>738066887Yeah NA
I was watching Nakanishi push through. There was an intensity in how he reacted to the game that speaks to me more than anything. He didn't look just angry but upset, anxious, desperate. Negative emotions that I can believe are mixed with love for the game. I usually hate myself when I get mad over video games. I wish I could smile like other competitors. It's a bit of projection and I don't know this guy, but even if he didn't win the whole shebang he's inspiring.
>>738067028who's top tier in tekken right now
>>738066809Haven't played in a while but I'll hop in if there's a lobby
>>738067004>assuming they're not revealing it at geoff's shit like they always do
Morriganbros? Our response?
I wish English Commentary would shut the fuck up about tiers.
>>738067030ok I'll play I just don't want to lose to you again because I don't wanna learn how to fight zappa yet
>>738067110Literally who?
>>738067059Lili supposedly top tier and then there's Claudio too.
>>738067110We kneel...
i'm just glad a zabel didn't win. faggot character
>>738067028Kunimitsu and Tifa I BELIEVE.
>>738067028Last top8s better be worth it yezz even Tekken 8.
>>738066809nah, but i'm up for strive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFuTIrvuMnUworld heroes perfect on steam with code mystics doing the port and rollback. /myguy/ MUDMAN is back
what are the differences between morrigan and lilith gameplay wise?
Morriganbros, I'm feeling a bit sad...
>>738067529breast size
>>738066809gonna make the room or what
>>738067110Literally the lowest tier girl in the game.
>>738066809Roster additions will not save MBTLThose gameplay changes will need to be substantial. It's actually a blessing they didn't have a full gameplay trailer for Len for me to see the "updated" combo feel and keep me in the dark for longer.
this might be the snk roster with the most sauce
Will DoA ever make it back?
>>738067529the biggest difference is their dashes. Morrigan's ground dash puts her airborne and goes upward, Lilith has a normal ground dash. This makes Lilith's dash useful for pressure and frametraps whereas Morrigans dash is useful for quick overheads and crossups.
>>738067471SNK better put a team World Heroes in KOFXVI
Morrigan is low tier because she thinks it's more fun to be the underdog and has to hold back her SSS world destroying demon powers.That's my cope.
>>738067743its ok she'll always have umvc3
>>738067670>Hulk Hogan and a football playertop kek
>>738067743That's fair I guess
Notable reveals so far:>DOA6LR Reissue Mai and Kulahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CApBv9e6EuE>World Heroes Perfecthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFuTIrvuMnU>COTW Mr. Karate (Robert Garcia)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJ5xTSWV0g>KOFXV upcoming New balance updatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBidF6YMgoI>GGST new big balance updatehttps://x.com/i/status/2050499593490853944>MB Twi Lumina and Lenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Awm3GVbLU>UNI2 Zohar and upcoming new balance updatehttps://x.com/inbirthPR/status/2050168669859385737Cool Top 8s so far!
Please remember the ancient gospel. Tiers r 4 Queershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYUlXvcDzs
>>738067704DOA 7 will have to be a pretty enormous fuck up to not make it to EVO when even shit like Nen Impact got an EVO spot. Granted, it was EVO France, but DOA7 is still likely to to get a spot.
>theres a modern aki in sf6 top 8 winnersdoes modern aki even do anything better than classic aki? she doesn't seem like she would benefit from it like chun or elena
>>738067896TierWHORING and TierWHORES exists for a reason.
>>738067725that's it? Cool cause i never liked the hoverdash, main reason i can't play i-no. So lilith is a rushdown strike throw?
>>738066887>>738067125>>738067554Code is HHHHHH, sorry I had to do something for a sec
>>738067073>>738068116
>>738067704KT kow-towing to evo after what those pedos did to DoA was already a bad thing in my eyes, but I still had hope for the games. That 3 minute presentation for DOA6LR (when they booked a 30 minute timeslot) just made me lose all hope for the future and it has never been more over. DOA6LR will massively fail and be nothing more than a worse version of vanilla DOA6, which will make people lose interest in DOA7 and in turn make KT pull funding and effort from it.It's over.
>>738067662It's the next best thing from getting an official rollback version for AACC. I'll play it at least.
>>738067986Anti-airing with Heavy Lash is finnicky, sometimes requires you to walk forwards to position yourself correctly and it's easier to do with ModernSA2 is a decent reaction super on fireballs despite the lack of projectile invuln, I think you can just send it against stuff like Ed's Charged Flicker or Alex's stanceSA3 goes really far and is a pretty decent anti-fireball tool in the close rangeSo on both of these, you benefit from ModernThe 2LP>5LP chain buff probably fixes some of her modern routes since she lacks 5LKShe still lacks 2MP, which is the optimal link on DR overhead as it lets you go into OD Lash, which is super efficient in terms of drive gauge management, especially now with the buff she got
Was anyone expecting anything out of DoA6LR after no crossplay and no rollback?You are simply not being serious about your fightan if you launch without these things. Even minor fightans like Invincible VS and Avatar Legends come with crossplay and rollback
>>738068389Crossplay don't really matter but rollback does
Which game do I get KOFXV or CotW?
>>738068469There's gonna be a new balance update for kofxv so kofxv.
>>738068389People were understanding that there is no crossplay because adding it to an existing game can't be an easy thing. No rollback is very bad and we pretty much expected the game to fail when we learned it won't have it. But now we learned that the game will literally have nothing new or interesting at all. I wonder if it will even have a basic balance update.
>>738068445Online without crossplay always dies faster, there's a reason nobody who matters skips it nowadays
>the year of our lord 2020+6>people are still talking about netcode
>>738068469CotW is the better game and it's getting new characters monthly, get that.
>>738068389>Even minor fightans like Invincible VS and Avatar Legends come with crossplay and rollbackNot trying to defend that DoA cashgrab but, rollback for 2d games is way easier than with 3d games
Can I get back into Type Lumina without it being completely dead now? Will this be a revival for the series or still complete shit? Why the fuck did French Bread developers just go completely quiet after launch which killed off the games because people were getting anal with shield (I personally had no problems with it lol but it was a bit scrubby) Have a roadmap or something FUCK
>>738068754tbf japs only recently discovered making fighting games with non-shit netcode in like 2021.And even then, you can still get some debacles like KOFXV matchmaking being busted for a year.
>>738067028>4amdamm niggas
>>738068840I think they were counting on Nasushit releasing the second half of the Remake within the decade
>>738068961I hope the kof balance Patch brings people back, the matchmaking being dogshit killed the game too early
>>738067471>still no NGBC>still no KoFXIare those fucking Chinese/Saudis even trying?
Chances they announce Zappa or Raven tomorrow?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eUAJYpwPSk
>>738069221Sir, Strive top 8 was done a few hours ago.
>>738068754Gomenasai Tanaka-kun, but I don't live in Japan so I need my netcode not to blow dicks
>>738069284Didn't they do Unika or some other announcement last time day three before SF6?
>A Kazuya on Top8 for Tekken8I hope Ikari Wins
>>738068056Lilith is rushdown strike throw, yeah. There are other differences but the dash is the most impactful in terms of how they play. Morrigan has a much more traditional fireball and a better DP, for example. Their combo theory is pretty much the same although Lilith has better combos due to LI being less hits than DI and not hitting certain scaling thresholds before the final big hit.
>>738069362Didn't hope much for the side events on day 3 but I'm only expecting for a new tokon trailer. During top 8 they reveal new balance update release on May 14th and that's it.
I just woke upwhat have i missedwhat is on right now to watch
>>738069719This>>738067845>>738067028
>>738069719nothing honestly
did you want any tips millia bro
>>738069946Sure
Favorite top 8 so far?
>>738070169VsavHnKStrive
>>738070043well when you are doing disc oki, there is a gap for the opponent to escape before the attack goes active. Midscreen I like to backdash or jump out. Make the opponent block low, so use multiple 2K or 2D or something.as for neutral, pin is the obvious game changer but using 5P, 2K, 5S, or 2D tactically is the way to go. Along with movement. Venom has good pokes but they don't lead to much and even though he has options for anti air approaches, it is still a sore spot for him.
>>738070169HnK and Strive
I cant take anyone who says SF6 is ugly serious when fighting games have never had the best graphics except for one generation, 6th Gen, and they were Tekken, DOA, and Virtua Fighter. Thats it. SF4 characters have Shaq size hands and feet, that shit looks terrible compared to SF6. Nothing about SF4 graphics looked good. You losers cant be serious. SF5 looks miles better than SF4 but even it has some character model issues. SF6 hit that sweet spot of being average but thats mainly because we are only looking at the girls. The male models are 10/10. Who doesnt like BuiltLikeAWallRyu?
>>738068840>Can I get back into Type Lumina without it being completely dead now?Depends if people have enough hope that Twi-Lumina will be different enough to come back and get practice in now>Will this be a revival for the series or still complete shit?Depends if they address the game's biggest problems>Why the fuck did French Bread developers just go completely quiet after launchWhat? They released like 2 years of free DLC
Anyone up for some fightcade? I am bad.
>>738070431Only watched VS so far but it was pretty fucking good
>>738070645Is this pasta? But I agree SF6 is overhated specially when 4 and 5 had their fair share of ugly clay humanoids.
>>738068840>Can I get back into Type Lumina without it being completely dead now? >wanting to play one of the shittiest fighting games of the modern eraSo, like all of us, you deemed the game trash and didnt touch it. But now you want to go back to that absolute garbage because you watch a few Japanese play the game? Are you REALLY that easy of an emotional roller-coaster to groom? You may not like it but this is the truth about (You) bro. Or is it sis? LmaoFrfr wait for Twilumina, wait for other people to waste their money on it and confirm if the game is good or still garbage. DONT force yourself to play garbage
>when you are on a server of high level comp players and playing with them is the best way to improve but they are the most spergy, insufferable meme spouting zoomers and hearing their voice physically pains you and you have to be nice otherwise no matchespain, so much pain, i fucking hate them all
hey solguy what am I doin wrong (venom)
>>738071208I empathize with this
>>738070458Thanks. A lot of that is shaking off rust right now but I'll keep it in mind
GGs, that was fun. Great Millia and Venom.>>738071271I've honestly never played Venom outside his arcade mode, keeping the ground covered was good, I'm not sure if you could've done it more than you did since I'm not sure how he works but that and using 2S definitely makes it hard for Sol to get in.
>>738071448yea I guess I gotta use 2S more along with 5K. I just hate that grand viper goes under it for some god forsaken reason
>>738071652So you have never done that in a match huh?
>>738071875nah
>>738071652I gotta learn better sidewinder stuff. Gotten fairly consistent with tk sidewinder for some characters.
>>738069671>During top 8 they reveal new balance update release on May 14th and that's it.This shit better be good, I really think 2.0 is a dud
>>738072032God Chipp is cool in +R
>>738072032That sucks. What sick stuff have you pulled off in a match?
>>738072083Dude its just the fucking Happy nerf because they let him live for EVO Japan. Calm your shit retard.
>>738066809Thanks for the games though I can't really play for too long since I'm just on my lunch break.
>>738072261Hope they give him some compensation buffs for however they nerf him.
>>738066278>US EVOThat's like winning the special Olympics.
>saves TokonYup.
>>738068469They're completely different games. KoF is a 3v3 series (no tag though) with fast paced movement. Fatal Fury is a more grounded 1v1 game and they also copied some of SF6's mechanics.
>>738072469nta but what are your thoughts on MOTW and grant in it
>>738072423new leak? any source for this leak?
>>738072510I never played MOTW but Grant is cool. I just always thought his moveset was a bit bland and boring. Also funny that he's a dude called Abel, and Grant is his disguise. They should have done the opposite, Abel is a way cooler name than Grant.
>>738072603My COPE and HOPE.
>>738072261There are going to be minor balance changes, they had a similar patch 1 month into Season 4 HC's infinite is considered a bug among other issues>>738072336They need to stop with the "compensation buffs", half the time they barely nerf shit and then they give some compensation that makes a character keep their powerlevelFor example Goldlewis did not need "compensation buffs" to his normals for losing a wee bit of damage and retaining HKD all the time
>>738072640>Abel, and Grant is his disguiseHuh, funny. I’ve not done the story for any of them. But yeah he looks cool and I’ve been trying to learn him and the game a bit.
>>738072469I'm a fighting game newbie BTW. I only play smash with my friends. But that game has shit online,so I want to get one of these.
>>738072662yipes was saying the magneto drop will be big so i guess magneto is in the game but not revealed at evo japan
>>738072198I like to SB stuff
>>738072765Again, depends on what you want. Watch high level footage and you'll see how fast KoF is. Some people find it cool, others don't like all the jumping and want something more grounded. I always wanted to try Smash but between the shitty online and hating Nintendo I never could. So I'm trying Rivals 2 which is cool, and looking forward to Combo Devils, since the Nick game didn't go anywhere and Multiversus was Multiversus.
gg thanks for the games
GGs +R lobbyI don't know why I don't play this more. It's really fun
>>738072423capeshit is unsalvageable
>>738073384daily reminder mvc2 was just few blocks off being bigger than third strike on unc era
>>738073003Both games look cool,but I won't want to play kof if it's dying soon.
>>738072423CapeKINO is based.
WHY DIDNT SNK MAKE A FUCKING ARCADE CLASSIC COLLECTION OR SOME SHIT LIKE CAPCOM DIDNOBODY IS PAYING 15 DOLLAR FOR WORLD HEROES PERFECTNOR FOR SVC CHAOSNOR FINAL BOUT 2 YOU ARE CHARGING 15$ FOR ONE ROM YOU NIGGERSJUST GET THEM IN ONE BIG COLLECTION YOU FUCKING INCOMPETENT FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKSI ACTUALY LIKE THE PORTS BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE THE ARCADE LAG BUT IM NOT PAYING 15$ FOR EACH CLASSIC GAME
>>738066184The Thing as the grappler/big dude functionThe other is probably Invisible Woman which I have no idea what she will do. But in any case it's not Torch or Richards because there's already Ghost Rider and Ms. Marvel
>>738074195>The other is probably Invisible Woman which I have no idea what she will do.Arcsys already did invisible characters at least three times (Chipp, Arakune, Lucy)
>>738074195They can literally do anything with her, she creates objects so she can throw cubes at you and shit. Also force fields.
>>738074195>CHAD Grimm>a grapplerNo.
>>738074460He jobbed btw, to the villain of this game.
Saying "GGs" after a lobby is too friendly. Where's your drive, your hunger to become stronger? I don't think there is anything wrong with showing sportsmanship but one thing I learn about 4chan is that the people who show up to lobbies never actually improve because they dont even have the mindset of improvement even as a long term goal. I have fought some people who vg vm and v enough to come to a conclusion that these individuals will never get good and they willingly choose to be shitters. But somehow Im the bad guy for pointing out you have hundreds of hours in a game and you still get hit by my day 1 mix
>>738074505>is revealed>canonically will win in the game's storyYUP. MY HERO!!!
>>738074538You can say GGs and then point out I have hundreds of hours and fall to your day 1 mix. I personally take it because I do have the mindset to improve and appreciate criticism or advice, some are like you described and you would get angry.But generally if you don't know the person, just play a few matches and go "Oh btw you suck at X and Y" it's bad manners. If you play often you can start getting closer, specially if the other part start talking about your or his own performance.
>>738074538GGs that was me :)
>>738074505Wasn't the deal that only the Hulk had enough muscle?And he was too weak to lose, so the champion gave him the win.
>>738074505>>738074675
>>738074726My hero...
>>738074726BEAST!!
>>738074726CapeSOVL.
>>738074538holy cornball cringy ass
>>738073865I kinda wonder if more people would play an individual port of 3S or A3 over the collections, or if Fightcade just invalidates them
THAT IS BULLSHIT BLAZING
>>738074726Is Tryco's team gonna be the DLC? Even though he is gonig to be the ''game's boss''?
>>738074726KINO.
good morning
Capcom should update their first fighting collection with the Darkstalkers games to include a version of VSAV with all the characters, it would be really nice. They did it with Alpha 3 so I don't see it being too difficult and would give more incentive to play the official ports over fightcade.They should also have a toggle for easier pushblock and let Anarkis pushblock too honestly
>>738074726holy cinema!
>>738055753Alright bros im up, what did I miss. Where's the new darkstalkers game? Why is no one talking sbout it?
>>738076630There is none sorry but it had a good top 8.
>>738076352Morning!
Available to rewatch.https://youtu.be/wKUgwx2MioU?si=i9SgSA0G5pIAB2BWhttps://youtu.be/IdxIql4NbU0?si=1TV-satJie3Xo6FJhttps://youtu.be/vGgBUt4jh-o?si=H3lReXpGLQbJFSzWhttps://youtu.be/BCmgPP7aUxY?si=3fKvb2fS2FpSkHvj
>>738076505I'd like to see balance patches for old fighting games with the option to play the original version during netplay. That would breathe a new life into these games.
>>738076630It doesn't exist, enjoy the new Melty Blood scam
>>738074639>if you don't know the person, just play a few matches and go "Oh btw you suck at X and Y" it's bad manners.So when I tell you why you're bad it's "bad manners" but when it's a pro it's "OH MY GOD!!! PUNK SPOKE TO ME!!! HE EXPLAINED MY PROBLEMS!! I CAN FEEL THE POWER OF IMPROVEMENT FLOWING THROUGH MY BODY, I'M GETTING GOOD! I JUST LEVELED UP!!!"
>>738068469I like XV more, personally. If you don't mind resourceslop games, COTW will probably be less dead going forward and is still actively getting content.
>>738070169Most of the CotW matches were fun as usual. But it was damped a bit by Xiaohai bashing everyone's brains in with Billy.
>>738076987>PUNK SPOKE TO ME!!!kakkoiiiii
>>738068840>Can I get back into Type Lumina without it being completely dead now?If you don't mind looking for games on discord, yeah.>Why the fuck did French Bread developers just go completely quiet after launch which killed off the games because people were getting anal with shield ??
KOFXV is in every way better than COTW other than not having Tizoc.
>>738070169vsav and vf5
>>738077216>Most of the CotW matches were fun as usual.I zoned out during the Gato mirrors. The rest was good indeed.
>>738077286kofxv has king of dinosaurs and antonov who mog tizoc
>>738077286I kind of agree. Not necessarily better but it feels way more distinctive as a fighter than the trend chasing mechanics of CotW. I'll take hop hop game over the half assed drive system.
>>738077356I play both those guys on rotation as my third but I prefer Tiz.Also COTW just looks ugly, the characters look ugly, and their KOF versions are better for all crossovers.
>>738076505>They did it with Alpha 3 so I don't see it being too difficult and would give more incentive to play the official ports over fightcade.They just ported an already existing console port. afaik darkstalkers never had a version with every character, so I'd imagine it'd be pretty difficult to do that sort of thing.
what a shit top 8 sf6
>>738076912I hate that fighting autists are dedicated enough to learn the games inside and out yet are not autistic enough to make romhacks for them.We could have Darkstalkers with all the characters on fightcade or 3S without shitty balance but nobody cares enough to try.>>738077465The PS2 version of VSAV has every character but apparently it has input delay in versus mode. It would be perfect if not for that, fuck.
>>738077465>afaik darkstalkers never had a version with every characterI think the PS1 port? Maybe the PSP one? Honestly I'd rather a rebalance but that's like doodling on a sacred cow at this point. Same reason people complain about SF2 HD Remix.
are +R niggas still playing
>Tryco Slatterus>See refenreces also : She-Hulk, Silver Surferbroooooooooooss......................
>>738076987>>738077232Is he still and gonna cry about the monitors again?
>>738077549>>738077579Neat. Maybe it's not too far-fetched to hope for Capcom to fix it up and release it next time they want to farm some boomers for easy revenue.>Honestly I'd rather a rebalance but that's like doodling on a sacred cow at this point. Same reason people complain about SF2 HD Remix.It's really a shame that retro gaymers are so hostile to the idea of rebalancing old games. Something like an omega SF4 mode for older titles could be really cool as an option to breathe a bit of new life into things. Even if it sucks, there'll always be fightcade, so what's the harm?
>>738077828God I hope so. I hope he brings the already slow ass production to a grinding halt. I hope he gets 4th and immediatley runs to twitter to say >Yea I had a good run n im happy for du gettin second but you know they gotta stop tryin with these wack ass ps5s I kno its a sony event but what the fuck these things overheatin n shit burning like a motherfucker and bringin out like 5 frames of lag its ridiculous
I'm going to beat all the UNIbros and become THE Unibro. They will all kneel to me as I will become their Leader of my squad of uniniggas. And then when Twilumina release we're going to invade and I shall become GOD of Twi
>>738078010Luhmeow.
>>738074675Hulk got too mad so the Champion refused to fight him savage, and Thor got disqualified for using weapons. There were some others there like Colossus and Sasquatch but they jobbed. Only Ben went the full rounds.
>>738077462CotW going for a comic book look and being more stylized is way better than KoFXV doing a weird mix of anime and realism that looks like neither. I don't get people who think KoF looks better
>>738077754His first comic appearance was Thing focused
>>738078672>She-Hulk was also on Fantastic FourTryco, She-Hulk, Thing, Silver Surfer Team?!
the ai in world heroes perfect is fucking bullshit
NUMBAH 1DAHDAHNUMBAH 1
Same dude claim modern fighters aren't good are the same dudes in here hyping up Tokon for that day 1 $99 deluxe edition
>>738073423only in the usa, only in the west coast
>>738079796True Europe was too busy playing Virtua Fighter and Bloody Roar.
I'm surprised no one is talking about Max's chat calling InvincibleVS a trash game. They were having the conversation without him, he then threw himself into the conversation and got mad when his chat agreed that the game isn't good. So, Max crashed out on his own chat because he has sponsors and money to make. He banned like 13 people from his Youtube chat. This was during him shilling InvincibleVS, lol.
>>738079705no we're fucking not lmfao
>>738079869people are calling it the american nen impact on twitter, is it relaly that bad?
>>738079869I don't fucking watch Max
>>738079907Nen Impact had non-functional netcode and beyond terrible balanceInvincible just looks kinda mediocre
>>738066108>traps assWhat capcom by this
FB looking to hire another battle planner a couple months back makes sense with more UNI2 support alongside Twilumina
>>738079869WHY DOESNT MAX CARRY INVINCIBLE???? HE LOVES KILLER INSTINCT IT WAS HES MAIN GAMEHOLY FUCK MAX DO IT
>>738072765Smash borrows a lot of its dna from KOF compared to any other fighting game
>>738080019isn't sakurai a massive snk fanboy
There are too many fighting games released, too many coming out in the near future, and too many new ones being announced. I miss when there was 1 Street Fighter, 1 Tekken, 1 GuiltyGear, 1 MvC. Now there too many and they're all the same watered down trash. Bro Y'know how there's Fruit Loop. But then there's Fruit Rings. And Fruit Wheels. Fruit O's. Fruit Circles. Like nigga I'm good with just the Fruit Loops damn lmao. That's fighting games right now.
>>738080231thats why everyone just plays sf6 or strive
>>738080072It's pretty evident with the treatment Terry got. Also basic mechanics like short hopping, running, rolling/spotdodging etc
>>738080231>there's too manyTokon, Twilumina, Avatar, and what else?
>>738079869tbf chats in general just seem to call everything trash.Every time I took a look over to it during the EVO matches, the chat just looked like a /v/ thread where it was mostly shitting on whatever game was on mixed in with people not knowing what they were looking at.>cotw is a boring saudi blood money game>t8 is mash garbage>lol slime rush 6 is trash bro>when is [insert game]? this looks boring af>what game is this???>i don't play [insert game that's currently on the screen] is it fun?They all just kind of sounded like miserable fucks that don't even like or play fighting games.
>>738080231We're just back in a fighting game renaissance.
this was the hardest i've laughed at a fighting game set in years
>>738080231agreed, i play strive and +r casually cause i like jam there. period. I don't want any tagslop, any new anime, any new sf clone, or any indie shit. I'll only make an exception for a new sc and that's it
>>738080308Helltaker, 2XKO, Fatal Fury COTW are less than or just one year old
>>738080402>Unnecessarily drive parry twice>Goes burnout>Raw lvl 2My sides.
>>738080231>I miss when there was 1 Street Fighter, 1 Tekken, 1 GuiltyGear, 1 MvC.Yeah now 3 of those suck and the others dead. Fuck you, I'm glad we have like 10 cakes to enjoy. Only in fighting games will you have faggot complain about more options.
I don't like you guys baiting people into play Trash Lumina. If you must please grab the game at an extreme discount
>>738079869>e-celeb stream>chatfags not hating everythingDouble brainrot.
>>738080621I think we can easily get rid of 2XKO in any discussion.
>>738077610we can scrap if you want
i would play 2xko if they added alistar, singed or malphite
>>738080773Nobody is baiting anyone to play MBTL when most people who are actually going to play it, instead of rosterfagging, are still waiting on any concrete evidence that the gameplay won't be boring and homogeneous as sin to play.
Plus r lobby link again?
>>738080823I don't have any reason to hate 2XKO. I downloaded, played it for 1 hour. Thought it was harmless. I just didn't want to invest into an ever changing environment. Biweekly Balance Patches is something I cannot support. That's the only thing that stopped me from playing 2XKO
>>738080895The rps shield must stay :)
>>738080940As someone who played League for years back in the day, I just wish they picked some better characters and really lean in on some cool gimmicks and unique mechanics.But since they wanted to make a really accessible game I doubt that's going to happen. Nothing else about it interests me at the moment.
>>738080992Shield RPS more or less got addressed in the current build short from completely removing it and replacing it with the AACC shield.
Tokon will be KINO, but here is the THING.
>>738080856this but shaco
>>738080321>>738080806It's the feedback psychological effect, where people are only really going to put something into the chat when they have a strong emotional response to something (or they just want attention by making inflammatory statements). You don't see many chat posts that just say something like>"Oh, this game looks fine."you have something weird, jank, slow, hard to comprehend, etc happen in a game and the chat starts up with calling the fighter on screen trash and things just snowball from there, whether that be a bunch of people agreeing with the loudest chatters or arguing against it and sending everything into a big shitflinging box.Same goes for the opposite, where you can get the chat flooded with "hype". But unless you're playing some really cracked out shit, the usual adhd stream watcher is going to start shitting on any fighting game that showcases any weaker or slower aspects.
>>738080895if Twi doesn't - Revert Shield back to a Hard Read mechanic - Completely remove the RPS- Adjust combo proration so that you don't need Auto Combos and the Option to turn [OFF] Auto Combo becomes practical - Remove the "Slap on the wrist" mechanic and bring back proper Counter Hits for incorrect Shields against Lows/Mids if it doesn't address these issues I am not touching Twi. I will no longer support Kamone's incompetence. He's suppose to be a professional and yet he still makes a lot of indie level mistakes.
>yipes switched his cross for a pentagram necklaceHuh, he became a satanistShame
I don’t understand vampire saviorIm playing bulleta but nothing ever connects, am i supposed to only do 2-3 hit strings???
>>738081569It's just some twee rebellious Luciferean shit, who cares. The real satanists are American protestants
The one thing I hate the most about the current FGC is their ADHD. When a game feels perfect I don't want or need a fucking patch. But for them a patch is drugs. It's dapamine injected straight to the brain that wears off after the hoenymoon phase and then they go back to screaming about when's the next Patch. I fucking hate it so much. There's a reason why UNI players will always praise UNIST at the height of Under Night. It was fucking perfect. And then a patch killed not just the game but the entire community.
>>738081348fighting games are rps but in real time nigga
>>738079907Nah, the game seems functional. It's just your typical tag kusoge with ugly visuals and a very poor value proposition + $10 costumes.>>738080321That's just the state of "discourse" in the current year. Melty top 8 was fun because it was mostly just people in the community having fun watching and dogging on NA Mario and DAN players. I assume cotw was also attracting all the twitter mains.
>>738081772he's talking about the shield nigga
>>738081348More or less what I'm hoping for too. Maybe even a change to meter and HKD so the game isn't ending every single fucking combo with EX enders.
>>738080918no one plays that shit, nigga
>>738081712It has made for an interesting dynamic in modern fighting games though where the second devs stop supporting a game, it's immediately considered dead instead of finished and players start dropping off hard. So games constantly must keep peppering in shit or else the adhd starts kicking in and people start losing their shit that it's been 2 whole months without a patch.Back in my day, you just got a version of a fighting game and maybe in a couple years you'd get a revision (for full price again). Now that model is unfathomable.
>>738081712I also enjoyed UNIST the most but I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say a single patch killed it. People don't seem thrilled with UNI2 right now, but it's felt like it's gone through some gradual ups and downs since UNIST rather than cl-r or 2 being some massive shift that singlehandedly changed everything. As well as that, I can empathize with French Bread wanting to adjust the game to hopefully get more interest in it. Even at it's peak it hasn't done as well as a game like Central Fiction is doing well after its primetime, and while that hasn't changed, it would be even further from being a success if they just decided at UNIST that the game seemed like it was in a good place and it should just be left right there forevermore. The game and community likely would have dwindled down to even less than what it's at right now if that were the case.I still do agree people clamor for patches and updates a bit too often, and it would also be really nice if developer's made more of an effort to make older versions of a game playable instead of patching out old systems and characters for good, but even so, I think it's not hard to see why developers would want to patch even a game that's in a good spot.
>>738081658>rebellious Luciferean shitIsn't he old for that kind of shit? Only dumb teens do that
I bought DBFZ on the Switch 2 and I can't stop playing it
>>738082074look at how people talk about sf6 barely changing since release, when that used to be the norm. its crazy to me.
>>738081908uhhh pretty sure that shit got nerfed and like the best thing after you succesfuly shielded is do nothing because if you do any followup opponent just gonna do the followup that beat your followupidk im not expert at poomina
>>738081712That isn't to say UNIST didn't have its problems with literally untouchable Vatista, Vorpal Stripping, and a sea of Option Selects. UNIST is considered primetime because the jump from UNIEL to UNIST was fucking substantial. Arcade data directly from the biggest arcade scenes, one of the most comprehensive fighting game tutorials, a practical mission mode, story mode for the singleplayerfags, and constantly growing numbers due to EVO inclusion announcements, BBTAG, like 2-3 separate release dates for JP versions, EN versions, and PC release just made its time. CLR died out in huge part to COVID killing the tourney scene both in NA and Japan. UNIST was NOT fucking perfect. It was pretty damn close but it had its own issues. FB and UNI players are completely used to getting a game drop, getting a stabilization patch a month after, and then radio silence for 2 years. What the other anon brought up about the current fighting game climate about the audience basically NEEDING to be dripfed updates and content is just how things fucking are now, and hell, UNI2 actually needs a patch to dial things back.Were you someone who actually played [st] during its heyday? Because I certainly was, did you join any lobbies being hosted near daily here?
We getting season 4 reveal tonight?
>>738082303With how well the Strive 2.0 patch was received. I think you're going to see a lot of expectations that every fighting game should have a fat 2.0 patch of their own at some point post release.
>>738082248you should have been here when the mvcfags had a melty when an anime studio they looked down on made the game that capcom didnt want to make
>>738082303I agree. It's so strange to see people so upset about the game not changing. But that's how people have been groomed. It's not just Fighting Games, it's Games as a service. And fighting games nowadays are GaaS. Season Passes. Character Passes. Battle Passes. Their own in game Currency (Capcom, RIOT, and Namco games) to buy skins, characters, and more. And these same consumers are playing shit like Genshin whenever they're not playing fighting games. FYI the only cattering they do for oldheads is keep the Legacy controls in the game. That's it. Notice how almost ever non-legacy fighter (Avatar, 2XKO, Tokon, Granblue, DNF Duel, Nen Impact, InvincibleVS) all have the baby mode Control Scheme as the default. In fact, some of these games control schemes are problematic to the point they need to dial that shit back because they got you pressing like 9 fucking buttons when old fighting games used to have everything on 4 buttons. Fucking crazy lol.
>>738082507Why does everyone keeps expecting for a season 4 reveal today INGRID HASN'T EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET.
>>738082671i was shocked by how unintuitive the invincble vs controls were for what was ostensibly supposed to be for accessibility purposes. it felt like shit to play
>>738082453>>738082084UNIST = BBCP for Frenchbread fags. We're currently at BBCP2 or Extend. I can't wait for our BBCF equivalent.
>>738082697I need confirmation that the game isn't dead because I can't be caught playing a dead game
one thing i liked about 2xko was the idea of playing the same game for decades without the fear of having it replaced with something from the same devs killing the old playerbase and everybody moving on. Once i like a game i wanna keep it forever without it becoming a discord fighter. People still play lol and dota 10 years later and theys till have ten of thousands of players. Ideally i would want the same. One sf supported forever, one gg and one tekken for the 3d fags, that's it. That's the future i desire
>>738082863i think its very likely they support sf6 for a really long time
>>738066108>reverse search this picture>original on Pixiv is 27MB>27MB of ASSNice
>>738082529I don't even think Strive 2.0 is that expansive or even that good, but I do think purely from a branding perspective it is good to have an update that's presented as this jumping-on moment. Like if a game like UNI got an update like that, it could potentially be a fairly big moment for the game because right now it's the kind of game where even if it manages to earn the interest of someone who doesn't currently play it, it's hard to make them actually make the jump and give it a go because of the perception around the game that it's only played by a fairly small group of dedicated players. An update that's branded as a chance for people to come in and try it can be a good opportunity for a game like that to bring in some new players. It was a bigger update than Strive 2.0, but GBVSR was also an update to a game that breathed a lot of new life into a game that didn't seem to have much legs in a similar way.With all this said, I don't think UNI would suddenly become some massive hit if it got an update like that, but I think an update like that makes for a good moment to bring in new players all the same, and it's something I think a lot of games that feel a bit like they're treading water could use for a boost. Even if you're talking about much bigger releases Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition felt like a big move to recover that game's reputation even if it was maintaining a playerbase just by virtue of being Street Fighter despite how negative people were about it.
>>738082895yeah but i play strive and i feel threatened by tokon, also i wouldn't be able to move to it cause i hate capeshit too much, can't accept it
>>738082895I agree. I don't see us getting another SF game until like 2030. Strive 2 probably in 2028. Tekken 9 is 2031. We're up for another KOF game, maybe 2028.
>>738082975>feel threatened by tokonwhy not just keep playing even when the game is no longer supported
>jump on to try Strive 2.0>none of my combos work anymore not even basic BnBs>close and uninstallNot like they were getting any more money out of my anyway but damn way to kill any interest I had in the game.
>>738083129i need external validation
>>738083151So you are too lazy to learn a new and refreshing game? Damn bro, maybe fighting games aren't for you, especially modern ones. Try established ones like +R. +R is godlike. Come play with us
>>738083151>none of my combos work anymore not even basic BnBsAlmost every character yeah, some more than othersI don't like the way they did it, they removed too many cool combos like Anji or Baiken's corner jD loops, and then some characters are intact (Nago, Goldlewis)
>>738082579the game is actually fun now instead of the boring ass shit it was on release
Strive 2.0 is all marketing. That shit might be the fakest hype I have ever seen. People ironically talking about the game as if they went from colorless TV to color TV lmao.
>>738083452sorry chuddy but strive 2 is good and the evo run was really fun deal with it
>>738082803Wasn't CP just Kokonoeland?
>>738083452Did you actually play the game before the patch?
>>738077286>KOFXV is in every way better than COTW other than not having Tizoc.It's better than Street Fighter in my book. I can't get into COTW because it plays like Street Fighter. Regardless how popular SF6 is, I will never be able to get into it because it isn't my type of fighting game.
>>738083452i dont give shit bout strive but give them props for deleting their version of drive rush after people complained about it
>>738083547>CP was just the console versionBro you do know that around that time was when the Arcade was on a whole new version. And Kokonoe situation only lasted for like a month. It wasn't the entirety of console CP which only lasted about 6 months before Mori would then announce NA version and a new Arcade version
>>738083547OG CP (arcade) was Valk and Hakumen tearing shit up, but yeah on Consoles they release Kokonoe, and then nerfed her in a patch before Extend where they kneecapped her anyway.
>>738083452It got hyped because the patch content was big and the majority of it is an all out nerfs and power level reset across all roster which is unseen in fighting games nowadays because other fighting games were doing buffs buffs buffs buffs. I don't even think it's going to change every fighting games patch behavior and it's just Strive. Tekken 8? Yeah they just neutered heat and nerfed many heat launchers but the game still has problems. COTW? Dunno about that but apparently they followed Strive's 2.0 footsteps. Will UNI2, Twi Lumina and KOFXV take notes on Strive? Are people gonna fully expect that?
>>738077286>>738083584Why is KOFXV not popular? Like, I never heard anyone complain about the gameplay. I even see a lot of people placing KOFXV with 98 and 2002 as one of the best games in the KOF series. I know there were Ranked Matchmaking issues but the game was fine in Player match lobbies. I played with friends all the time and we never ran into issues. The rollback was good too. Street Fighter was being SHITTED ON when it came out too and yet somehow people still played SF5 with its terrible netcode??!?!?!?
>>738083567nta but I prefered season 4.5 and I think a lot of the system and balance changes are just bad>>738083648they had already nerfed it a lot before removing itit was still a decent combo extender (for red) and pressure starter (for blue) but it was nowhere near as bad as it was at its peak
>>738083668>>738083686I only got in with Blazblue with CPEX so all I heard were legends. Heard Makoto was actually pretty fucking strong during CS2
>>738079869I keep telling everyone that Max is a marketing channel, that advertising money is more important than honest opinions. When the money dries up, that's when he is likely to display some criticism. Nothing wrong with maximizing your potential revenue, but anyone thinking that Max is going to be honest about the quality of something is fooling themselves. At the end of the day, he's Mr Reactionman, the guy you watch getting hype because it hypes you up.
>>738083813UNI2 was promised nerfs months ago, before Strive 2.0.
>>738083937That Kokonoe legend was so shortlived that you can only fine a single Major Tournament where it is being displayed for all to see.
>>738082970That's what uni2 was supposed to be, hence the 2. They just launched it the same week as tekken 8 with shitty netcode.
>>738083837>Why is KOFXV not popular?THREE CHARACTERS THAT PLAY SIMILLARLLY?I can't learn that!
>>738083937She was one of the weakest top tiers relative to the top tiers in other versions like CT Arakune and release Kokonoe. Her claim to fame is being able to reliably two touch you and use her parry restand to threaten that off of one touch. She was also easy which helps.
>>738084058Arcsys made horrible decisions as publisher to release it next to Tekken and then give the PC port to Cyclone Zero.One would almost think they did it on purpose, or they really banked on the games not having any overlap.
>>738083837It is the same reason why Facebook continues to be popular despite its social media features being inferior to newer sites. Familiarity is a linchpin, meaning most people won't move to other pastures unless they have to.
>>738083937makoto is hot
>>738084058>with shitty netcode.Outed yourself as a PC secondary :) Console version had no issues. Also got a Beta Test before release. Every single UNIbro here was on console while the PC issues were being worked on.
>>738084175Her talking sprite weirded me out
Is it true Them's Fightin' Herds is getting an arcade release?
>>738084248>Every single UNIbro here was on consoleNo we weren't.I hosted lobbies on PS for years but I had no reason to keep doing it when PS+ subscriptions stopped getting Black Friday deals. Like 99% of the PS playerbase for the lobby threads moved to PC without a hassle. I can only name one Nanasefag we had who didn't jump on over.
I will main Captain America.
>>738084175Makoto is a time traveler.
I haven't seen any Tokon footage, does Cap's shield actually have any guardpoints or projectile invuln?
>>738084361Mori predicted!?
I didn't play it back in the day but Vampire Savior looks really fun. I really wonder why games with its mechanical sensibilities are so rare when we have so many Marvel or Street Fighter style of games. Like, why does high mobility have to be paired with combo porn?
>>738065883She will slice your dick off
>>738083837It doesn't look that good visually or interesting enough gameplay or visual wise for most. Like for example, I got into mbtl and strive solely because they look cool as a Tekkenfag. And another thing is that if you tell me to play a game where I can pick 3 characters but then tell me I can only play the other 2 characters if I lose with one of the characters I am going to tell you to fuck off. If snk just nailed 3d in a way that arcsys, or 3d fighters were able to 2 decades ago they would unironically get more players than with whatever the fuck other retarded shit they pulled with cotw.
>>738084361AAAAAAAAIEEEEEEE GOOKBROS DON'T LOOK!
>>738076505Why not go even further and give us Alpha 3 Max on Fighting Collection 2.
>>738080231The thing is very few of the current and upcoming ones are worth playing. I’m only interested in uni2 and type twomina when it comes out.
Why do all Baikenfags play like they got a bomb attached to their chests
>>738084661We got pretty close honestly with Ingrid, Eagle, Maki and Yun. The only thing I think is missing that would be cool is the Alpha Anthology extra ism modes.
>>738084151Yeah it was a real shame when it happened.>>738084248>bragging about paying for online?
30% DQ rate btw
>>738085093Overall or just 2xko
>>738084594Nah bro. When KOFXV was coming it was one of the best timelines for SNK. People praised Samsho and SamSho did end up exceeded sales expectation. I was actually shocked by that because I thought the casual and hardcore audiences would deem Samsho as a boring game since it's not a combo focus game. And then KOFXV was revealed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpeAmLuXdOcThen the Character Reveals every two weeks, remember the Shermie reveal getting 1million views in an hour after the trailer released? That was insane. Then they announced Rollback netcode, the UI was clean. I remember people even simping for Dolores of all characters. I don't know what timeline you're living in but I remember people genuinely being excited for KOFXV during its promotional comapaign. The only reason I heard as to why no one plays KOFXV was Ranked Matchmaking being broken. That's it. No one ever said the graphics and visual were bad. I think you're thinking about KOF14, not KOF15.
>>738085123I remember that timelineSuch a shame the release was so catastrophic and ruined the launch
>>738083837Matchmaking issues on launch that took forever to get fixed and also some lackluster DLC (Orochi reskins). Also it's KOF. It's definitely gotten more appreciation over time, but then SNK moved on to COTW.
>>738085093riot games century of humiliation
>>738085093explanation? why would these guys no-show after making it this far
>>738082970The worst thing that can happen for a game is to be like strive
>>738085792Getting more nerfs?
>>738085123the kofxv hype died with the shun'ei trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asg-tHYHJOA
>>738085792
blast havers are feasting
It took Sin how many fucking years in this game to actually have eating affect his cancel meter?
>>738085351>>738085376>Launch Matchmaking issuesI just fact checked this;Ranked Match PS4 Day 1: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1298573541?t=2h25m47sRanked Match PC Day 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1300584518?t=5h34m22sI don't see any issues with the launch, what exactly did you mean?
>>738086391you literally couldn't match with people, you would be sitting in queue for like half an hour and get nothing. i bought that shit on release and was so mad
Is he gonna make it bros?
>>738086391https://web.archive.org/web/20231220062926/https://iskofxvsmatchmakingstillbroken.com/
>>738086448But he's matching with people and there is actual video footage???? are you sure you're not talking about later on???
>>738085123There is not a single thing in your post that combats what I said about the fact that the reason the game isn't popular is that most people just don't fuck with it visually or gameplay wise even if the broken matchmaking didn't help. Getting views on youtube doesn't mean shit just look at 2xko or God knows how many arcsys games that get tons of views on youtube before they release. Also people definitely shit talked the way kofxv looked, especially by using samsho as a comparison point and by pointing out the shitty fx it has.
>>738086459Yes. Trust the plan.
>>738085792If every single dev had half a brain to do a patch as nerf heavy as strive 2.0 even if it meant completely dumpstering one or 3 characters and remove atleast one retarded mechanic that has no business being there fighting games as a whole would be better. Fuck you and die bandai namco too little to late.
>>738086560KOFXV exceeded sales expectation. Not sure what you're going on about but the game was the most anticipated fighting game at that time and it did sale well meaning it was popular by SNK standards. Unfortunately for SNK people would drop the game after the honeymoon phase ended. I think this is where the matchmaking issues started
>>738086459If Hulk is out he's gonna be the grappler archi-type.But will Tryco's team be DLC then? Or will he be Teamless?! Does he have duo pairing with Thing then?!He's literally the game's final boss and has to be 120% playable.
just give me my guy dr strange or daredevil holy fuck
>>738084058>>738084151>People unironically think it was the releasse windowUNI never had a playerbase and for good reason with its 20 second gapless uninteractive blockstrings (which 2 did remove), even longer combos (which 2 didn't remove) boring character designs that appeal strictly to early 2000's gay ass VN readers and while not being that bad mechanically, not really having a gameplay nicheWhy the fuck do you think a completely different genre of fighting games that genuinely never had overlap with anime fighters (which we statistically knew for the last 10 or so years with all major entrant statistics) would be the death of it?Don't forget that 2 also released with a broken ass fuck PC port on an era of PC focused fightans and while it did get most of its major problems fixed it still has issues from the first fucking game like the alt tab issue they never bothered to fix
>>738086850For a game as small as UNI, some newblood casual who tries out any fighting game and even the 40 people on Playstation would be a decent boost for playercounts on PC.Any talking head on Youtube, who qualify as one of those generalists, would understandably say it wasn't a smart decision even if there's hardly any overlap.
>>738084058>same weekno, it was the same DAY
>>738087057>>738084058>he thinks 3dfags care about 2d >he thinks his uni2 would have been more popular is there was no tekkenThe real truth is everyone bought GBVS Rising a month earlier, enjoy that game so they didn't feel the need to buy uni2. The icing on the cake was the shitty netcode lmao. Granblue killed UNi2 not Tekken
>>738086730>most anticipated fighting game at that timeCome on now man we both know that was strive. Both games were showing shit off around the same time and people were talking about strive's shit LEAGUES more. Unless you mean anticipated in that particular year of 2022 then yeah sure since the only other game coming out at that time was goddamn dnf duel's garbage.
No one told me Surfer got some merpussy,
>>738087206didn't help that sf6 started getting trailers pretty soon after kof15 came out
>>738087206strive came out a whole year earlier retard. there was nothing competing with kofxv except for shitty ass dnf duel which no one bought lmao
Dnf Duel is the best worse fighting game of all time. I grew up playing Dungeon Fighter Online. You have no idea how excited I was when that game got revealed. The hype... THE FUCKING HYPE! I haven't been that hype for anything since after that abomination. In fact I don't even feel hype for anything anymore. I think my Limbic system is burnt out.
>>738087369>shitty ass dnf duel which no one bought lmaoI think it had lots of cool stuff even if it was retarded
>>738087369Dude kofxv was supposed to release in 2021 and snk were absolutely showing stuff for it off during the exact time period arcsys was showing stuff off for strive which is why I am saying this. Also did you not read part of my post regarding dnf duel being the only shitty competition in 2022 and kofxv being the most anticipated for that year only.
>>738087675Holy shit my brother
I will never forgive them for that bait and switch they did by using Female Mech's outfit on Female Ranger's gameplay. That's not even Female Ranger's outfit. Everyone else in the game is wearing their proper class Outfit, why the fuck is Ranger wearing Female Mech's outfit!?!!??!? Bitch she was my main in DFO!?!? These fucking idiots baited me so hard.
>>738087675I never cared about PVP so while DNF Duel looked great, I didn't really care for it. I just wanted Project BBQ and then they cucked me out of that for a fucking Berserker game.
>>738083214No I just don't give a shit about Strive. I got it because a friend got really into it so I just learned some basic Baiken and Pot to play with him, but he stopped playing.Strive is a shit tier game I don't feel like having to just relearn a bunch of shit for really no reason.>>738083425It's a baffling strategy to just jettison everyone's game knowledge but Strivetroons are a different breed.
>>738088595DFO is mainly PvE content like a MMO. PvP is secondary. It was really huge in China and Korea back in the day. They had their own Esport events that were the biggest Esport event rivaling League.
>>738083837>Why is KOFXV not popular?It's an old game at this point and it had a bad online launch. It's similar to SamSho, SNK just sort of fucked it on launch and now it's a certified beaner game and discord fighter.KOF is not Street Fighter. It's a second tier fighting game outside of the big three. KOFXV is genuinely probably the best fighting game so far of this decade in terms of just overall fun and gameplay, but I can certainly admit SNK just absolutely FUCKS their releases and shoots themselves in the foot time and time and time again. It is really too bad, but hell, if you're gonna play fighting games it's pretty par for the course and you just get used to joining discords to run some games and you meet some nice dudes along the way.
>>738088876People who actually like the game can just... learn a new fucking combo instead of throwing a bitch fit about it, the opinion of a person who didn't like the game to begin with is worthless here.
>>738088876>jettison everyone's game knowledgeGet real, it takes less than an hour to learn your new combos unless it's a character that got reworked
>>738089116people who like strive are subhumans
>>738089116>>738089141seethe strivetrannies, this is crab bucket mentality trying to keep people from escaping your shitass casualized gameXrd is the last GG
>>738089378>can't learn bnbs>whines about the game being casualized
>>738089025>the big three.The fuck is "The big three"? Hold up let me think try to answer that90s was SF2, UMK3 (west), Tekken 3, Virtua Fighter (east) 00s was 3D takeover. Tekken Tag/4/5, DOA2/3, Virtua Fighter 4 EVO09 was Capfag mind control. Street Fighter 4, Marvel vs Capcom 3 and.... the fuck was the 3rd one here? It wasn't no Tekken 6, wasn't DOA4 or DOA5, wasn't Virtua Fighter 5, wasn't anime shit, I think there was no 3rd place during this time. MK9? Injustice(lmao)? 16 was Capfag mind control v2 Street Fighter V, Tekken 7, Dragonball FighterZ20s is the first Troon era Street Fighter 6, Guilty Gear Strive, and uh.... Granblue? Alright slap my dumbass. What games am I forgetting?
>>73808952009 was blazblue as the third
>>738089378>some retard who couldn't be assed to relearn a basic bitch bnb wants me to believe he played Xrd in any capacityKEKStupid faggot LARPer
>>738089560Blazblue was no THAT popular bro. Blazblue didn't get any popularity until BBCP. I would argue that Persona 4 Arena was more popular. Capfags actually played P4A.
>>738089694it wasn't that popular but it was the clear #3, its just everyone played sf4 and mvc3 at the time so they completely dominated the scene
>>738089758But P4A was without a doubt more popular than Blazblue. Again, Capfags played P4A, they didn't play Blazblue.
I think Strive is a fun and good game
>>738089824i just remember my local having blazblue at the time alongside mvc and sf4. it didn't have p4a here, but maybe other regions it was more popular
>>738089850true, people just hate it cause it's not ggxxxx but darkstalkers 4
>>738089892So to be clear when I say "Capfags" it was mostly NYC. For some reason they were all into P4A. I don't really know about other regions of the USA but New York was all over P4A when it came out. That's why ChrisG ended up winning a few P4A tournaments. Even Yipes was playing that shit lol
>>738089478>smashbabby thinks anyone who plays actual fighting games wants to learn anything in strive
>>738089850>anon's first GGIt's okay
>>738090083everyone's first ggless than 100 salary men and greasy neckbeards worldwide don't count
>>738089378>Xrdlmaoing at your life
>>738090006What's ChrisG thinking of Tokon anyways, being one of THE MvC NY niggers
>>738089824Youre out of your mind lmao
>none of my friends like fighting games>playing online is just like playing against advanced AI feels entirely unfun and impersonal
just posting a pic from my dead tranny meme folder
>>738089850So do I!Playing Jaggo is fun
>>738090307>impersonalYes>unfunMore of a (You) problem desuIt doesn't match the fun of playing in the same room with your actual friends, but online matches can be plenty fun unless the opponent is playing like a complete faggot, which depending on the game can be more or less likely to happen.
>>738080231During that time there was also KOF, SC, BB, SFxT, billions of anime fighters, etc. Nothing much has changed, you don't remember those because nobody played them (and you only mentioned GG because it recently got popular), nobody will play any of these new games either and they'll just stick to the ones you mentioned. Next gen you'll be saying the exact same thing.
>when the rollback netcode is good but every time he gets hit the game is "lagging"
how hard is it to pick up yun in 3s
>move is only -4 on block despite having some very good properties>punishing it on block requires IBs and a 4f jab>remove every 4f jabmasterful gambit arcsys, go fuck yourself
.>GGfags laughed when BBtag happened>GG got STRIVE and most of the old guard left and has been replaced with tranniesHeh.
Whats crazy is how from 1991 to today the fgc never stopped revolving around solely whatever the newest sf mk and tekken were at the timeIf you like a niche game its fine but dont pretend your game was ever competitive
>>738090825Evo JP's top 8 is literally all oldheads + 1 new (Xrd era) Pot player
>>738090884Nobody cares about Mk, anon
>>7380906082009 was the year of SRK.com Control. Capfaggots had control over the entire FGC market. You may forget but they made sure everyone hated those billion of anime games you mentioned along with some well established stuff like Dead or Alive 3/4. There were very toxic towards Guilty Gear and especially Arcana heart 3 when everyone was playing that. I remember Yipes even admitting it to Arturo on his "NoFrillzPodcast" a few years ago. Well not admitting it, more like reminding Arturo how toxic he was towards anyone playing Arcana Heart, and yelling disrespectfully at them requesting they drop that shit and come play MvC2. It's not that people didn't want to play those games, it's the fact that Capfags made sure you weren't playing those games.
>>738090825BBTAG is worth laughing at.From all sides, from the P4 crowd and the UNI crowd.
>>738090915>n-no! it DOESN'T count! Strive le bad and that is what I'm going to shit up the thread with today!
If only there were evo entrant numbers, console sales totals, and arcade earnings totals available online to gauge how popular / relevant these games were. Welp
>>738091007Capcom games were full of hypocritical hood weebs back in those days. Shit was infuriating.
>>738091054>>738090825The BB name aside, it would be cool if we got more new games that repurposed assets from other games, even if they're active tag kusoge.
>>738091287I hope they never make any more pixel shit ever.
>MBTL gets a FT3 Top 8>Type Twomina is real>other games got some neat announcementsMaybe our Saudi overlords aren't so bad after all.
>>738091287I would have been okay with the active tag stuff if I didn't lose a heavy button and didn't need autocombo strings.
>>738083151>>738088876So are you just pretending to be this retarded to make strive haters look bad or is this the genuine level of stupid for you?
>>738091482Im pretty sure it has been proven again and again that Sheik Moneybags actually plays games.
>>738091584>>738091287Also they had a chance to really make that wild crossover a solid product but nearly everything about Tag is a cheap cashgrab.
You old losers sit around trashing modern games. But you're so fucking old that you don't have any time for a real fighting game even if they made a new one with 90s fighting game design philosophy. So, what's even the point in all this trashing on modern games? Are you that much of a bitter old man you can't stand it when the youth is having fun? Here's 4 facts about (You)Number 1; You will never win a GGXXAC+R, GGXRDREV2, 3rdStrike, BBCF, and whatever other game you deem "hardcore from muh era", you will never in your fucking life win a Major for any of those games. Number 2: You will never place in Top 8, Top16, Top32 in another of the games listed above because you're old and too fucking embarrassed at yourself to show up to a tournament. A grown ass man still making excuses like some kid on why he can't attend a Local or a Major. This is 10000000000000000000000000000 times worse if your ass lives in the USA. Number 3: You will never place Top 8, Top 16, or Top32 in any Online Tournament. You don't even have to get off your ass and you're still making excuses on why you haven't won a single tournament for your favorite gameNumber 4: You can't stand it when people like myself Blackpill your ass. You'll move the goalpost since you're too afraid to accept the reality You don't play fighting games. You're a shitter. And you're wasting your life trashing on modern fighting game while not even getting paid for it lmao
>>738091606>strivetroon can't alow others to call out strive being shit
Imagine living in the USA, having a good paying job, being able to Rent a weekend car, and your dumbass still doesn't go to Locals or Majors. I bet some of you live an hour or two away from some of these Major tournament and every single year you sit on your ass rather than attending them. What a fucking loser lmao. Dedicating your life to this shit and you will die a 4chan nigger we wont remember LMAO
>>738091287unfortunately 3D kinda prevents thatsprite based crossover games already look odd when you compare certain sprites, but 3D models would make it super jarringeven if you did Strive x Granblue x Tokon it would probably still look a bit odd
>>738092192Yeah, but something like an SFxT is feasible if they wanted to. I know it would get shit on hard for reusing assets, but I do wonder what CvS3 is gonna look like (if it actually exists of course).
i don't understand gio's neutral. This character is so fucking hard. In a game where majority of the cast gameplan consists of enforcing their gimmicky bullshit she has none. She is made to be played around the opponent's gameplan, deny it and abuse the weaknesses. It's the hardest shit to learn cause you need to have a good understanding of everyone else and what they want to do. The opposite of single player setup faggots like millia
>>738089850I've been trying to give it a fair shake this time, it's fine I guess. I can play it and enjoy it, but it sometimes feels as if I'm playing it just to prove something to myself.
>>738083432>>738082248NA PC EC?
Anyone wanna Strive Lobby?
What's with this fucking weird ass schizo waifuposting and saying the most cornball ass shit?
>>738094456no, i played all day instead of working and i feel too guilty GEAR HEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH
>>738093324>her boots have paw printsCute!
>>738091702Post Arcueid's funny vamp tits.
>>738093324You play footsies, there's not a single "trick" about Giovanna's neutral and it's completely straightforwardsThe one thing I find hard is spacing her step dash, I always run into shitAlso she still has jump cancel BRC mix, her BRC air dash is wack because it'll hit super low to the ground, and at 50/100 meter she might as well have a command grab because of how fast her dash isShe's not super gimmicky, but she still has a bunch of tricks
UGOKANAIDE
>>738094785what's the difference between neutral (the triangle) and footsies?
>>738094785>>738093324you gios wanna mirror?
>>738095446Neutral is simply the state where neither player is close enough to interact with one another, "footsies" refers to the idea of poke wars once characters are in range of each other to do so.
>>738095761then i never played footsies. With my gio i mostly bait with movement, whiff punish and prehemptive with 2D with the occasional deep dash 5K cS if they are afraid. Where i could learn about strive footsies?
>>738095602sorry buddy it's late and i don't have the energy and i'm eu so i suppose the ping would be bad
>>738095446Neutral is whenever no one is at advantageFootsies refers to the subset of neutral where you play around with range to try to get something to punish from your opponent, or to get inGiovana is extremely good at this, most of her buttons are barely minus, and she has the best backwards walk speed in the game by farSo an extremely easy way to bait things with people as her is to just do something like fS/5H, walk backwards, and see what they do, a lot of people will whiff a normal trying to take their turn, or IAD, and you can react and punishThe only risk with this is if you're against a character with good, long ranged lows like Ky or Johnny, and people who are onto you will try to dash block at you, so you have to rotate your options and frametrap as well>>738095602Not a Gio main + it's late, sorry
muh dick
>>738096337what the fuck is this motionblur
>>738096257oh this is interesting, i struggle a lot at forcing commitments cause all i do is frametraps or fuzzies. This seems what i was missing>and people who are onto you will try to dash block at youhow is that counterplay? Don't they just run into my pressure again?
why fighting games are so remedial
So when the fuck is it starting?
>>738096458>i struggle a lot at forcing commitments cause all i do is frametraps or fuzziesYou can also sneak in crackhead fake shit to make them bite into your frametraps, stuff like fS>No Cancel>Dash up throw, and then rotate back into fS>5H>how is that counterplay? Don't they just run into my pressure again?They're going to slowly close the distance and push you towards the cornerIf you don't press, they can start pressureIf you leave too much gap in your staggers, they can win with dash into a normalIf you automatically press a button, you might whiff and then they can whiff punishThere's no sure 100% counterplay but dash blocking is extremely safe and harder to react than jumps/IADGiovanna is a mids machine, it's not very scary to run into her buttons and block because she's not going to do real mixups off of itOf course this also depends on the matchup and player, Chipp for example is so fast he might get an IB and back throw you in the corner for doing this, whereas ABA has no meaningful way of dash blocking at you
I need a sugardaddy to teach me fighting games. I heard there were a few here
>>738086850Kinda weird people say uni doesn’t have a playerbase but I fight other people on ranked in it. It’s like the only good game that’s still getting updated.
>>738097141Fuck off to the /fgg/ discord.
>>738097539sorry but what's that?
>>738089850I've enjoyed it since they added Asuka but they decided he shouldn't be fun anymore so now I've lost a lot of motivation to play it.
>>738097643thats the /vg/ fighting games general
>>738079869Max is just a turbo shill. I'm not sure why anyone would trust his opinions on a fighting game, especially a new one. He just sucks off everything he's told to advertise until the advertising budget goes away and then he can give more genuine opinions of it. Everything on youtube that is positive on Avatar, 2XKO, and Invincible is 99% paid for. Those games suck dick.
>>738097926Dumb frogposter
>no ed in top 32did the nerfs actually kill him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhKOSdYn0nEBrothers. Men of culture. It's time.
>>738097980Jurisisters....
>>738097926Avatar looks alright actually
>>738099612you got groomed by ecelebs or 4chan niggers? which one?
>>738099719I just like the games I think look good. Looks better than most modern games.
>>738099760Why exactly do you like it unc. You uncs don't like shit unless it's got that old school tech. Explain yourself nigga. What tech does Avatar got?
Japanese KI is live, 32 man tournament is gonna start soon apparentlyhttps://www.twitch.tv/orumen
tekken 8 top 8 soon?
>>738097980As someone who has primarily played SNK (and GG) games, it's wild to me that Mai is apparently that fucking strong in SF6. How do you even manage that with her usual kit?Even at her best across KOF and FF (which I think is 98') she's on the higher end of mid-tier.
>>738099836Just think it looks fun I dunno, other ones look kinda lame
>>738099903her ex fans bounce on hit and she can follow it up with drive rush into throw loops
>>738097980Were there new nerfs or something? Can I see them somewhere? I thought Akuma and Bison were bad and Ryu was busted?
>>738099945frfr no cap
Soon
>>738100005Bison is an inconsistent scam artist character, not even reliable enough to make it into top 8 despite how much damage he can do.Capcom, buff this man.
>>738100005nothing since the alex patch, but it was mostly minor stuff. they nerfed ed, mai, blanka and ryu the most https://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/en/battle_change
>>738100059soon what?
grub still da best
>>738100119threesome with the chick on the right
>>738100078I’d like if they gave him a reversal other than super
Cute weeabette
>>738100209he might be too degenerate if he had a reversal
Buck broken
>>738099903SF6's fucked up universal mechanics and structure is perfect for Mai's moveset. Especially the EX fan bounce like the other anon mentioned.
hulkChad won
>>738100318>one dude dies of cancer>black panther can never be used again why
>>738100283Good!
>No She-Hulk>She-Black PantherHOLY FUUUUCK LETS GOOOO
>>738099960>Having an Anji butterfly makes you insta god-tier in Street Fighter 6kek
>>738100318>spear chucker
>>738100318You know full well they only chose to use Shuri because they want to put as many girls in the roster as possible.
Sexo
>>738100209They just gotta nut up and give Akuma and Bison some of their secret Shin moves.
>>738100402GUROUNDA VIPAH
>>738100416>they want to put as many girls in the roster as possible.Holy basedI will now buy your game
You guys are actually hype for this game?
>hulk and black pantherthis likely means most of the picks left aren't gonna be deep cuts. my hopes for dr. strange are higher now
>>738100446Make Bison’s warp and Akuma’s KKZ real
Invincible has taught everyone that the true key to capeshit success, is to just turn your male heroes into girls.
GayThem niggas put Black Panther's sister in Tokonlol
>>738099903>with her usual kit?That's the trick, she doesn't have her usual kit. They made her into Anji from GG, she's not about run away and zoning with good aerial movement, she's a skip neutral setplay character with an install. Why didn't they just make up a new character if they didn't want Mai to be Mai is what I don't get.
>>738100424Nice thicc thighs
Why is the voice acting so phoned in for the Marlel shit? All the lines in the trailer sounds like they were bored and just took a fistful of Ambien.
I feel nothing from tokon. is it over for me?
>>738100582different people will like different things, theres nothing wrong with liking or disliking a game
>>738100582no you're just waiting for MvC5 like the rest of us
People suddenly pretend they cared about and liked Shuri.
>>738100416No I didn't I thought that was only copium by Mehvel because the guy died of buttsex cancer
>>738100612But I feel so much from Marvel vs Capcom. Tokon feels like it's missing something
SO DOES TRYCO HAS TEAM OR WHUT?!?!?
>>738100582I mean isn't the game still like 3+ months away? You're just an adult and don't get excited for shit months away. Like edging on hype for months on end is just setting yourself up for disappointment
>>738100402I imagine if you put any strive character in sf6 they would be top tier. Even bottom 1 testament.
>Promoter>ChampionWhich other elder of the universe do you think they'll use in the game? Besides the Collector.
>>738100582It's safe tagfighter like how safe horny does nothing for me
>>738100628no one cares about shuri, however people do care about sexy ass black women in skintight spandex
>>738100582The weird thing for me is that I feel nothing for Tokon, but I've already bought and have been enjoying Invincible VS a lot so far.I think it's the Killer Instinct DNA in this thing while Tokon just looks like really slow Mahvel to me.
Max got the phone call in from Arc System Work right before they went on Stage. The wire was complete. Money in the bank.
>>738100582The gameplay for TOKON looks like shit. I assume they are relying heavily on:>arcsys nameand>marvel license
Seems like Carnage was hinted at in the trailer.
>>738100642You just don't like arcsys style or how anime and detached from the usual capeshit it is. Which sucks for you but is GREAT for everyone else. Glad sony told them to do things their way and make shit as far away from the western comic style they originally had as possible.
>>738100783how? i sure hope so, hes my most wanted
>>738100839
It's so weird seeing real women in anything fighting game related
>>738100826A split second frame in the new trailer shows hints. Upper right shows #5, the FF issue where Doom debuted. Lower right shows #361, Carnage's debut in the Spider-Man comics.Carnage will be in Doom's team.
>shitten 8Oh fuck, is there a side tournament going on?
Is it acceptable to 1&done+block people with bad connections?
>>738100615those shoes on her look awful
>>738101215Yeah
>>738101215Yes, been a staple since SF4.
>>738101215If the connection is really bad I feel completely fine walking away after one game. No need to do a FT3 if it's so awful neither player would realistically want to play in it.
No Thor no buy.
