>Back in February, reliable insiders reported that Sony was preparing to stop releasing its one-time PlayStation exclusive titles on PC, a move that would push the video games back to being exclusive to PlayStation hardware. The shift in strategy wouldn't preclude live-service titles, but would impact the likes of Saros or Marvel's Wolverine, single-player titles. The shift reportedly resulted in a port for Ghost of Yotei being scrapped. At the time, it was suggested by insiders that it had to do with the upcoming release of the Steam Machine, the fact that Xbox's next console, Project Helix, will have some sort of PC functionality, or because of poor sales.''Piracy is killing PC gaming. Buy your fucking games or the industry will die.
Maybe it's because no one actually cares about ps titles?
Turns out that PS games don't sell as well on a platform that actually has games.
>>738068268>No cores>All those games sold millions on PlaystationExplain that
>>738068172Not like thy sold a notable amount on ps either with day 1 advantage.Spiderman 2 is still the only pis5 game that sold 10 million and that was with insane underpriced bundle push to meet the marvel contract conditions.
>>738068172>WHY WONT PC VEGANS BUY OUR GAME THAT WAS A PS5 EXCLUSIVE FOR 2 YEARS FOR 70€?
Where is bloodborne, sony?
>>738068172Back in the day, PC port was synonymous with awful UI and control schemes
>erm if you don't like us at our worst you don't deserve us at our "best"
>>738068340Bundles
>>738068427The fans already did it.
>>738068340one implies people, gun and ball console owners will buy shit on release and never play it past the first few hours
>>738068172PC users didn't buy these games because they didn't want to be bought and forced into the PSN system. Not piracy.
>>738068268it's more that people that do care have a ps5 already and people aren't spending $70 on a late port on pc. wait until it's on sale for $20 or something, if you lasted 5 years without playing ghost of tsushima then what's 1 more?
>>738068340The games that sell well are the ones that don't have too much transgender garbage, also is dirt cheap to port; they recoup their investment by selling just 100,000 units. They do it to see if they can bring people to their platform and inflate user numbers.
Shoo shoo
>>738068172All of those games are some variations of capeshit. You pay $70, play for 8-12 hours, be hero and never touch it again.On PC, rpg, sandbox and competitive games dominate the whole market, meaning replaybility is the key factor. You can't sell story first games to the such market, unless story is super good.
>>738068595>consoles owners buy shit and never play it passed the first few hourswhat the fuck are you even on about? go into literally any steam sale thread here and look at the multiple screenshots that random anons post in them showing all the games they've bought over the years and never even started. gamers across all platforms buy shit they want but then never play.
>>738068172Sony's single player cinematic slop generally doesn't appeal to PC gamers broadly want games they can play with their friends.Helldivers is a Sony game that's going to do well on PC.WokeMovieSlop43 isn't going to do well on PC.
>>738068172I'll get Ghost of Tsushima on sale. Idgaf about the rest. I got MSM1 and while it was overall fun, it was very soft with forced eco environment and homeless and shit messages. Nothing will peak old SM games. Also I refuse to believe Saros is a success on PS.
>>738068172Imagine telling somebody 10 years ago a massively advertised sequel to a high successful Spiderman game would be a mega flop
>>738068172Yes, because those games are shit?The only good exclusive in my opinion was Returnal
300k for ragnarok is fucking embarassing lmaotry adding even more niggers to the game next time
Ghost of Tsushima is the worst of the 4 yet it has the most sales. Conclusion: make worse games and they will sell better.
>>738068795Spiderman has more mid videogames than good ones
Horizon sales should be much lower. That game is soooo bad.
There are too many games.I can't be expected to play days gone, god of war, assassin's creed, all that filler shit, I have a fucking life.they got their PS4 sales, greedy fucks.
>>738068795Imagine telling somebody 10 years ago that the sequel to a highly successful Spiderman game would have you playing as a deaf black woman.
My bet is despite these low sells, it still covered the cost of porting them to pc, and probably even made a profit.
>>738068340?
>>738068172I didn't buy any of them because they required me to make a PSN account. I'm not giving my identity to Sony. They get hacked every 2 years
>Feed customers slop until they're fill>"Omg why won't u eat more of our shit? >;(("
How did Ratchet Clank Rift Apart do?
>>738068916The question becomes if the profit outweighs the brand damage done by the PC ports. How many potential PS5 sales were lost by porting everything to PC?
>>738068172Pc gamers standard are too high to pay full price or even half price for movie games. An "action game" were the main character has one 3 hit combo, can't jump and his wife tells him how to solve a puzzle room as soon as he enters it does not have a high value to me.
Maybe not release it 10 years later dumbfucks
>>738068979People who are buying the games on pc wouldn't have bought a PS5 regardless, much less people who would've pirated them
>>738068172I still can't believe they didn't put demon souls on PC. That one feels like the most agrunteed to succeed because of how many fromsoft fags are on PC.
I will not buy your game I will not bother pirating your game
>>738068795Didn't that game cost almost $400,000,000 after all the development and advertising or something?
>>738069080>People who are buying the games on pc wouldn't have bought a PS5 regardlessIdorts do exist, people used to have a 360,PS3 and PC. Then Microsoft said you don't need an Xbone if you have a PC. So nobody bought a Xbone. Then Sony said you don't need a PS5 if you have a PC so then people didn't buy a PS5.
>>738068795>series known for shit games has another shit gameWOW
>>738068172Market today is different. Exclusives don't lower sales as much as they did back in the day.This is mostly due to the fact that most gamers were kids who had to beg their parents for a new console back in the day.If you truly want to play a game these days, you most likely already own the platform.
they're choosing to make them flop by delaying them past the point of relevance
>>738068172>launch month salesGames keep selling on PC for a long time.
>>738068172>Multiple PlayStation Titles Reportedly Failed To SellOh no.
>>738069201>spiderman>series known for shit gamessnoyderman 2 is like one of the only genuinely mediocre ones
>>738068172>Marvel's Spider-Man 2: 260,000Welcome to the new normal!
>>738068172I'm not paying $70 to watch a movie on my $2000 PC. Fuck off.
>>738068172Because those games suck.
>>738068172Why would anyone spend $3k on a gaming pc to repurchase 10 year old games that are free on psplus?
>>738069223The best selling selling games were the ones that took 4+ Years like ghost of tsushima and god of war 2018, they rushed out Spider-Man 2 in under a year and it flopped, that's why they pulled out of pc
>>738068172pc players prefer actual games, not rancid sony moviegame dogshit
>>738068340compared to how much the console sold, first party games numbers are abysmal
>>738069370Spiderman 2018 and Spiderman 2 2004 are like the only good ones
>>738068172Chrono trigger barely sold two million copies across all platforms it was released on but you would never know it because the fanbase wont stop advertising it as some masterpiece
>>738068172Wait, ghost of tsushima selling 700k copies in a MONTH is considered a flop?
>>738068172I doubt most people even bothered to pirate Sony's woke games, their games just suck.
>>738069751Does it hurt being so brown.
>>738068172It's genuinely insulting to believe that the people who have access to the library of a PC would bother with s0iny movieslop
>>738069950I'm probably the whitest person itt. Brown people don't have standards and love capeslop
>>738069679You are a fucking dork if you think being too poor to afford all systems is an identity.
>>738069765I don't believe you.
>>738070026Wait until you learn where everything about these 3/10 games came from, walking turd.
>>738068172>our games didn't make a million sales on pc, this is definitely not because our pricing is vastly too high and the pc market wont accept our dogshit we try to swindle console users with, this is definitely not because our games are dogshit that everyone has already seen 2 years ago released on console and concluded that they are dogshit, no it's definitely because of piracy!!!!retards, you're all retards. imagine your business model being scamming and you freely admit you can't actually do anything other than scam, your games all stop selling instantly after day 1 after people fall for the scam and you move on to making another scam and cry about how everyones so mean to you and doesn't appreciate your work lmfaoi am very sorry you cannot make a single good game, i am very sorry everyone you employ and pay exorbitantly is a waste of space and can do nothing. those seem like not my problem though retard
>>738069857This. If they want my money, they'd better start porting GOOD games, but they've not made any in over 20 years.
I've got a genuine interest in playing Tsushima but it's more expensive on PC than when it launched on PS4 years ago. Get fucked if Sony thinks I'm paying that when their competition is significantly better games at significantly more attractive prices.
>>738068172Tsushima is okay at best, and the other 3 are dog shit, so makes sense they didn't sell well on PC.
>>738068172Damn, pc really is a dead platform just the like rockstar leaks indicated
>>738068172>people wont pay 70$ for 3 years old generic third person cinematic experience by SonyNo shit lmao. Only turbo retards would do that. Sony is high on own farts is they think their games keep value so long after releases.
I have a ps5 and dont have a single snoy game. all of their games are bad.
>>738068172i tried 5 playstation ports and i didn't enjoy any of them. like highest score is probably a 5/10 for sackboy's adventure.
>>738068172>open image>look at the list>it's all faggot tranny nigger goy slopbravo, sony, bravo
>>738068172>launch month sales>retards on /v/ think its total salesliteral cattle
>>738069751>Web of Shadows>Shattered Dimensions
>>738070540Being a paypig for GTA Online isn't something to brag about.
>>738070540PC has a very heavy bias towards multiplayer titles. Sony has realized this which is why they announced there will be no more single player ports, but live service games will continue to come to PC.
>>738070692I enjoyed Death Stranding, nothing else Sony has put out has even piqued my interest enough to try it but DS was easily an 8 or even 9/10 game.
>>738070540>>738070882
>>738070882Then why do Capcom games sell the best on PC? Why did Silksong, Elden Ring and E33 also sell the best on PC? Because they released there day 1.
>>738068172Maybe try not releasing trash. The only good game on that list has sales.
Why are you surprised? PC gamers are the poorest gamers. Steam hardware surveys routinely reveal that most PC gamers have a rig less good than a PS3 and no money to buy new hardware, let alone new games. PC is the piracy platform.
The audience for these games are on Playstation, not PC. Gaming audiences are not ubiquitous in taste. There's not millions upon millions of people outside each ecosystem who wants to play the exclusives on the other consoles. This guy >>738068743 gets it
Yeah because they all pirated them. PC is for people who dont buy games
>>738071384PC gaming has grown 30% since 2020, consoles just 2%.
>>738071457Capcom just sold 19+ million copies on PC in nine months. >>738071467Release day 1 instead of years later and PC is the dominant platform.
>>738068172i've never bought a PS game because i have zero interest in any of themgran turismo 7 would be day 1 for me
>>738071135those games are all very different from what Sony makes though. Silksong sold for 20 bucks, E33 sold for 40 and neither are the Sony first party style. Elden Ring did very well. But Sony for some reason won't port Demons Souls.
>>738071680The difference is one is a good game, and the other is a bad game.
Companies think they can sell games twice releasing later because pc version is going to be better quality. For games that are shitty you are just giving a lengthy preview period for PC users to decide they shouldn't buy it when they otherwise would have been fooled by the paid metacritic and reviews.
>>738068172Sony learning whats its like when the consumer has options and doesnt have to eat their troon slop
>>738068795I have zero interest in interacting with Nigger-Man and Aunt MayJane at allI guess I should have remained content with all those 6/10 jank Spiderman games they released over the years
>>738069857I pirated that one zombie biker game, fuck, I even forgot what it was called. That one was OK. I didn't even bother with their other games. Ragnarok was apparently so fucking awful at what it does that it made a long time Snoy fan friend hate them, lmao.
>>738068172>no numbers for Death StrandingHow does he keep doing it??
>>738068172they should have ported demons souls>but anon it's the demake and we can already paly the original on pcyes the demake sucks, but the bulk of the souls fanbase is on pc
>>738072173>Companies think they can sell games twice releasing later because pc version is going to be better quality.Which isn't even the case half the time, better-man 2 is known to be fucked.
>>738068172You could switch the titles between all of these four games no one would even notice because they are identical 3rd person anti-game cinematic trash.The fact Sony killed so many companies and tried to push live service turds still tells us a story about how much they are huffing their own farts. Who the fuck wants to pay for woke 3rd person walking game #1523? Also, PC players people still have an old PS4 probably if they didn't get PS5, the fatigue is real. Yet another clickbait article. Good riddance
>>738070882> why they announced there will be no more single player portsThey never at any point in time did this, btw
>>738072601I mean people already played these on PS4 if they are fans, why would you be interested in the same game again? They don't understand pc market and the fact they just can't copy the same formula and expect unlimited money.
>>738071467100% of statisticians have told multiple lies throughout their lives and therefore are untrustworthy people. Why would I believe this?
>>738068172PCfags just don't buy games. Everyone hypes up PC but in reality it is just filled with 3rd worlders who play f2p games on their gtx 1060s. Most of the steam userbase can't even run these games, and those that can pretty much just play the same f2p garbage slop that the thirdies play. You ever look at Steam's top played games? It is all garbgage and trash.
>>738073134False. Companies like Capcom sell the most on PC.
>>738071135Pragmata flopped on PC and was carried by PS5. They bought RE because it was an established series and they buy more units overall but only during steam sales. Consoles dominate the $50 + price point market
>>738068172>Force PSN into most titles>then region-block games in half the world, especially in turd world countries that would happily gobble all this sony slop >wonder why their slop didn't sell that muchAnyone who was responsible for PC market expansion needs to be booted from the place.
>>738073134PS’s biggest titles are F2P garbage like Roblox and Fortnite, ball games or kiddie shit from 2012 like Minecraft. Cope
>>738073317> Pragmata flopped on PC and was carried by PS5. the snoy lies as easily as he breathes
1. make better games2. day and date releaseswasn't so hard now was it
>>738068172Okay but would Bloodborne sell 1 milly?
I'll take DLC expansions over ports any day of the week
>>738068172hey why no ff7 rebirth? I bought that one
>>738073317False. PRAGMATA was in the top 3 best sellers on Steam for over a week and has sold over 50% of the game's sales on PC.
>>738073452bloodborne is already on pc, and it's free
>>738073494That was developed and published by Square Enix, not Sony. All mainline FF games are on PC.
>>738068172How did wothwile games like Stellar blade and Helldivers 2 sell?Perhaps the problem is quality.BTW, even if those sales are considered low, it sill earns more money than the cost of porting them.
>>738068932What a depressing picture. Not a single good game on that list.
>>738073680>Helldivers 2Multiplayer live service slop>Stellar bladepropped up by chinks
>>738068172only americans and euro cares about shit like spiderman, or gow , western garbage , give me bloodborne or even the last guardian , but now is over for sony on pc
>>738073746>multiplayer is now badClassic /v/
>>738073081because numbers don't care about your feelings, and they are showing that PC is the ultimate platform
>>738073775>/v/ isn't one personNo way...
>GoTBoring open world slop>GoW:RSame as the first game. Just with more padding.>Spider Man 2PC port was full of bugs and other problems>HorizonNo one cares about this franchise.
>>738073506It didn't sell 900k on steam the real number is between 200-300k. If it sold 500k in 48 hours it would have larger concurrent users. Analysts often overestimate steam because it provides real time transparent data while underestimating physical PS5 sales especially after the 30 day drm debacle there's a huge resurgence in physical game demand on PlayStation
>>738068172I only use my pc for Vintage story and RTS games. I have no interest in aaa sloppa and if I do i just turn on my xbox
>>738074093> the real number is between 200-300kCitation needed
>>738074093Only 3% of Capcom's sales are physical. 97% is digital.Also, for a couple days Pragmata was ahead of Windrose which sold 1 million in 6 days.Face it, PC saved Pragmata.
>>738068172notice how sackboy isnt on here? KING...
>>738074180Capcom never said 50% of Pragmata's sales were on PC. They said that, across all their games (including older hits like Monster Hunter and Resident Evil), their total sales mix is now roughly 50% PC. Applying that 50% company-wide average to a brand-new, high-fidelity launch like Pragmata is exactly where those analyst "guesses" come from, and why they don't match. The Math Doesn't Add Up, If Steam actually sold over 500,000 copies, a peak of only 68,000 concurrent players would be unusually low for a massive Capcom launch
>>738074262>b-buh if you ignore the company statement and make up numbers on an averageSo you made it up
>>738068172I sincerely hope the part of the industry represented by those titles dies.
>>738068172I would've bought Killzone or Ueda's games, Sony just chose to port games I don't care about. Killzone MIGHT'VE hit a million but I'm not delusional to think The Last Guardian would have fared better on Steam than Horizon but I would've gotten a game I wanted out of it..
>>738074262Pragmata wasn't some ultra hyped game that was going to reach super high concurrent numbers at release. It sells through word of mouth. It was the top selling game on Steam for a week, surpassing Windrose which sold 1 million copies on Steam in 6 days.
Blames knives instead of migrantsBlame Piracy instead of migrantsBlame the market instea dof shit economyBLame gamers instead of woke devs and woke gamesBlame the capital instead of the jews which enable it in the first place and prevent nationalistic and socialist people to protect the world from international bankster predators that strip naked the people across the worldSay we should give total contro lto jews (communism) instead of the people (Nationalism)WE DONT CARE ! STOP MAKING GAMES AND MAKE PLANS TO OVERTHROW JEWS FROM THE WEST INSTEAD !
>>738068340>locked to a close ecosystem>this is all you get>it's slopcan't know what's good if all you ever eat is shit
>>738068172All those games were 4+ years old when they released on PC at $70. Still profitable and thus worth doing. >$0 vs $300million>gee which do we prefer>I GUESS WE'LL TAKE $0 HAHA
>>738074518i m glad they stop porting so indians can seethe. my pleasure from indians seething is greater than my pleasure playing this soulless slop
>>738074518Schrödingers snoy“Sony is doing fine after closing studios and releasing 3 concords, they don’t want free money from ports because….uh….”
>>738074584Biggest userbase in India is on PlayStation
>>738074518Sony doesn't have infinite workers. If the porting teams can be put on a different venture that will make them more money, then it's not worth porting games for a few million in profit.
>>738074663considering they don’t have any other ventures in the pipeline, they’d be wasting money anyway
>>738068172not a single good game appears on that list, deserved.
>>738074718They've got all hands on deck working on Concord 4.
>>738074518300 million is nothing across 15 titles and if they sell just 2 million more consoles by keeping games exclusive they'll b make way more money than selling games on Steam
>>738068172Maybe Sony should have tried releasing shit people would buy like the Nathan Drake Collection. Would be really easy to port too, since its already on PS4. Nobody cares about “muh graphics” or whatever their bullshit excuse was.
>>738068172No bundles to pad the numbers.
>>738074798Their own statistics show exclusives don’t sell PlayStations
>>738068172>sell years old mediocre games for full price>no one buys them>"fucking pirates stealing our heckin work!!!"
>>738074905>literally funded the creation of Denuvo>doesn't use it any of their gamesCurious.
>>738068679>LLM summary screencap thread
their games are selling worse and worse on ps5 too, the pain of gen z and younger not buying singleplayer games is getting noticeablemillenials can't keep the gaming industry going on their own
>>738068172How do you release this much slop and still exist?
>>738074864That can't be true the only reason sony didn't go bankrupt in 2012 was because they made games for PS3
>bloodborne>killzone>infamous>resistance>demons souls>astro bot>original GoW ports>older sony classics ported for pc (sly, jak, twisted metal etc)i wouldve bought all these titles in a fucking heartbeat but noo they have to port goy of war and fucking HORIZON (that nobody fuckign cares about) instead of the actual good shit.
>>738075076Gen Z and younger are moving to PC. That's why PS5 games sell less.
>>738075082Sony is too big to fail. Their entire video games division could cost them billions a year in losses and it wouldn't make a drop in the bucket. Their real money is made in music, TV/movies, and consumer electronics.
>>738075124but anon, the ps3 doesn't have any games
>>738075192they arent moving anywhere, they are stuck in fortnite and roblox forever
>>7380734522 million copies at the very least, easily. Probably way more in the long run.
>>738068172>PC gamers bought the only good PS exclusive and let the others rotHoly based
>>738068340that only proves the games suck ass and people only buy them because sony consoles have literally nothing fucking else. if the games fail to sell well in a ecosystem where you have literally infinite choice then its clearly not the fucking ecosystem's fault
>>738075224False.
>>738075286>ubislop is the only good oneno
every single playstation game launched without drm and was pirateable day 1ofcourse they sold like shit, no one with a brain would pay for them
>>738075246Wrong.
>>738075309>niggas unironically asking AI for answersthis site is fucking cooked
>>738075367You seethe because you were wrong.
>>738075367Every day I die a little more inside when I go to work and get "I asked ChatGPT and it said this:" in my emails. Humanity is doomed.
>>738075367>cookedyou're part of the problem zoomer
>>738075360>wrong
>>738074257Sackboy was so damn good, but apparently it sold the worse of the lot. A real shame.
>>738068172The only one I ever cared about that people generally seemed to enjoy was Days Gone, and that's the one that Snoy seems to have the least interest in pursuing further.Never played any of those other "exclusives" and I have absolutely no desire to even pirate them.
>>738068172lol all the DEI games sold like shit.
>>738075309Wow, a retard.
>>738075618Keep seething. I proved you wrong in couple seconds.
>>738068335>PC gamesWhat games? The shitty indies? Your toasters cant run PS games anyway, thats why no one buys it.
>>738075409You'll be among the most intelligent beings alive in 30 years. Whether you feel disillusioned and demoralised or inspired by this is the only remaining mystery. But yes, we are fucked; the infrastructure we rely on will not be sustainable with so many retards.
>>738068172>late>expensive>buggy>poor performanceit's not complicated
>>738075671"You" did? I didn't read it; I don't read AI slop.
>>738069567love seeing woke tentpole titles flop.Last of US 2 and Spiderman 2 only did 30k peak concurrent players on Steam. Maximum shilled games from the industry with big budgets.It didn't help they released late when everyone sobered up about their woke content. Now it's too late to trick people because anti-woke is now mainstream.
>BUY THE POZZED SLOP BIGOTI'm not even pirating them.
>>738068172>or the industry will die.goodstart making games again and stop trying to make everything a fucking movie>ghost wasn't my thing>god of war was ruined (good thing i pirated the first 3 games)>lol marvel>lol horizonplaying this today was more fun that playing anything released in the last 15 years
>port games months or years after the original release>for full price>expect people to buy itfunny jews
>>738075082Sony is the main pusher of DEI garbage in the video game industry so government entities have a vested interest in propping them up and making sure everyone owns a playstation.Epic games was an attempt by these same people to control the PC market the same way but Tim Sweney is such a repulsive retard that even if he gives AAA games away, no one will ever like or trust him.
>>738075785>The shitty indiesIf those are shitty, then Playstation gamea are putrid.
>>738073730bf6 isn't that badshould be 5€ max
>>738075785no such thing as pc titles anymore since 2007 dumb fuckjust like no such thing as playstation titles anymore or xbox titles anymoreexclusives don't mean shit anymore fucking retard
>>738068172Oh no... Games that come out years after its exclusive launch... Failed to sell as much as during its exclusive launch!
>>738077229but please buy nugod of war (now not god of war ,just the same title because otherwise it wouldn't sell shit, also with a little retarded kid to babyshit)!for full price!
>>738068932>4 of them are yearly releases of sports titlesSportscuck are doomed
>>738077028Indie games are 99.9% garbage. The occasional break-out hit doesn't change that. Don't kid yourself.
>>738068172spider-man 2 and dad of boy 2 flopped because their writing sucked compared to the previous games and everyone felt it.but why did horizon 2 also flop? it was gay and retarded from the start and still sold over a million. where did its audience go?it couldn't possibly be....the higher system requirements?
>>738077407just because a game have graphics don't make it betterand i would disagree with you. even the occasional break-out hit you believe is good? i think that one is also shit
>>738077501I don't give a fuck about graphics. 99.9% of indies are derivative trash, which is why nobody gives a flying fuck about them and they never see a console release.
>>738069857oh yeah, that's the other problem with spider-man 2's sales, a development PC build leaked several months before release and brazilians all played that version instead.i wouldn't usually argue for piracy hurting sales but the entire fucking game leaking months early definitely did.
>>738075785I'm playing a Snoy game on my PC right now, but I still wouldn't give a dime or even pirate woke trash like Spiderman, Horizon, or God of War.
>>738068172A Rift Apart has weird camera hitching and looks like ass compared to Enter The Nexus on the PS4. That's the only PS game I've played on PC but I assume the others are the same.
>>738068172Hear me out, could it be...that these games...are not actually good? Might be a crazy thought...
>ragnarok>spiderman 2>forbidden westno secret why these undersold
>>738068172PlayStation has no games, only generic slop. By shutting down Japan Studio and making every single one of their titles target the demographic that posts reaction videos crying tears of joy to the Ant-Man 4 teaser trailer, they sealed their fate.And I say this as a PS5 player. It is a cheap and convenient multiplat machine, they have nothing of their own.
>>738068172>Buying games I can pirate watching YouTube Dunno why Sony refuses to make real games, even Xbox finally figured out that one
>>738068340Because they were launch titles on PS4/5 day one.Most gamers aren't going to buy 3-4 year old ports for full price, $69.99.Even Steam knows this and says only 40% of gamers are buying brand new games.Put those PS4/5 games on Steam day 1 and you'll have better sales.
>>738068172[WHOLESOME NEWS]
Sorry PC Idiots, no more games for you!
>>738068172the bulk of PC gaming sales are from China and they don't like these games. The majority of people in America and Europe still play more games on consoles than PC. Games like E33 and BG3 had more than 50% of its sales from China alone. Same with Crimson Desert, almost all of its sales from China. Wukong? China. If you wan your games to be successful on PC then you need to cater to China.
>>738079515Oh no, 1 (ONE) less game a year!
>>738068172Their western games are bad and they dont want to port the few good japanese exclusives they had so meh
>>738079515Sony really went to shit after Jim Ryan and Hermen Hulst took over. They ruined everything. Jim with obsession chasing after Fortnite equivalent and Hulst pushing woke out of his ass.
>>738079515They'll come crawling back when the $800+ PS6 fails
>>738068268Couldn't pay me to play that blackrock sponsored snoy cuck shit, fuck off my platform
>>738068172every single playstation exclusive i tried made me have 0 interest in the sequel because they all sucked the only one i'm interested in the sequel is stellar blade>HZD GoT GoW 2018 uncharted 4 ff7remake spider manAll were godawful
Their games just feel like shovelware with a high budget. I only played spiderman 1 and god of war from that list, but I remember the combat was just the same shit over and over again. You basically just played it for the story and the gameplay was padding. What kind of games sell on PC? Shit like survival crafting games, elden ring and the occasional capcom title like RE. I feel like shit with a lot of focus on gameplay sells more on PC than narrative centric games.
>>738079515Grim. Even disregarding all the wokeness, why would you put almost all of your eggs in the same soulless, hyperrealistic, unappealing movieslop basket? Isn't diversification a thing in business and making money?
If gay indian cuck comes to the pc, I wont be buying that either.
>>738068172why would you ever expect late ports to sell
>>738068340wow turns out the only environment this cinematic trash sells well in is a console that doesn't have anything else to offer
>>738068172the problem is that nobody wants Sony's shitty fucking games. give us bloodborn or fuck off
even the birds shit on Sony. fuck that California faggot ass company. I don't even want to pirate your games
>>738068172Here is a list of Snoy games people on PC actually want:Bloodborne.
>>738080504those faggots will fuck it up and make you install denuvo
>>738068172How in God’s name did Ragnarok only sell 300k? Holy shit
>>738080582it's a homosexual walking Sim thats made by dei femishits. nobody should buy that game
>>738080582It came out almost 2 years later. By then the whole game was on youtube.
>>738080489it's a sign
>>738068172Maybe make games that people at least care about. Not saying it's good/bad but MH Wilds sold 10 million in like 3 days, half of that was on PC alone. No one gives a shit about your waifu, Hulst. Aloy will never be a vidya icon.
>>738080582bad word of mouth from the game being full of reddit humor
>>738080552To be honest at this point I fully expect it to be a disappointment if they did it. Sonyfaggots hyped up ghosts of tsushima and when that finally hit pc we all saw it was a generic open world straight out of the ubisoft template.
>>738068172they were shit games, sonnygers get them because they have no other option but on PC we have much better things to play
>>738080795Sony's obsession with Horizon will always be hilarious. And what the fuck, how do they see Crapcom selling millions on PC just for Snoy to go "le sigh... PC gamers don't care about games...".
>>738068172All shit games with delayed release, all past it's hypetime.Treat PC herrenvolk with disrespect you'll get what you ask, Sn*y.
>>738075785My toaster can run all the Snoy games just fine, the question is why would I want to play them? As a PC gamer I'm not desperate enough for any scraps for entertainment to play the most bland and mid of games.
>>738080976selling millions with fucking remakes even, sony lacks introspection, they can only think "do we suck...? no! everyone else does!"
>>738068340forced bundles count as sales
>>7380805821.3m by now.
>>738081190i don't recognize this site. i'm guessing it's a vgchartz sort of """analyst""" site that just guesses based on public player stats yeah?
>>738081954Yes, the site that OP has in his pic is also estimates. OPs estimates however are only for one month.
>>738081954Correct. Steam sale numbers are all wild guesswork.
>>738068172How much did it cost to port those games? How much will they sell for the next 10 20 30 50 years?
>>738068340>Explain thatIt turns out that "blockbusters" aren't actually that desirable. What makes them desirable is the $150+ million marketing campaign that gets every normalfag to take notice of the game, start talking about it, and think it's the new thing their social circle is into, and therefore, they should be into it too.These games sold poorly on PC (if these numbers are accurate), because they were released several months, sometimes years, after the marketing campaign, by which time brand recognition had already faded and normalfags didn't realize they needed to buy them to feel like they belonged in their social group.Note: this is also why "chuds" are so heavily attacked by the media (the mouthpiece of corporations). A well-crafted meme is enough to make many normalfags think that consuming product X is actually lame rather than desirable.
capitalism is a jewish cancer
>>738074718>>738074769aren't you guys forgetting someone?
>>738068340snoys are cuckspc chads much pickier
>>738075785Try playing a 4X or RTS on your moviebox, retarded ape
>>738068172>The only successful Sony game on Steam is Marathon which sold 1,2M on PCI'm so fucking proud of my fellow PCGODSFuck cinematic third person capeshit ass creed trash
>>738068340Only a couple Playstation exclusives actually sell. The rest are just fodder that don't even remotely compare to third-party titles. They're already struggling for relevancy on their home turf, not much wonder no one caring for their games with next to zero advertising had them fuck off from PC too.
>>738083156>new cheap game sold more than old expensive gamesnigga dats crazy
>>738083156Source: my ass
>>738083156Death Stranding sold over 5m on PC. People are sick of Snoy slop.
>>738080582hey retards, use all of your 80 IQ and read the OP pic again
>>738070123One of the head devs literally went, "Everyone talks about Chrono Trigger like it was a legendary game, SO WHY DIDN'T YOU BUY IT?" Between shit ports, limited exposure, no modern marketing and so forth, many of the games we take for granted as industry legends are straight up paling in comparison for sales compared to modern titles because the gaming industry boomed that much, yet these titles never got much of a fair shake past that.
>>738082850Evidently not enough to keep doing it. I don't doubt they made or will make money on the ports in isolation, but it may have been a mistake to show their cards to PC gamers, because now everyone knows first-hand they aren't missing anything by ignoring PlayStation. If I'm to be optimistic about the whole thing, then maybe the disappointing sales on PC will make them to take a hard look at their catalog and think about whether doing nothing but ubishit movieslop games is really the right way forward.
>>738083420So PC gamers aren't buying enough games, but they will buy enough overpriced shitboxes?
>>738068172>no one buys garbage slop when brought to PC years later>"hmm this means everyone is pirating!!!"lmao
>>738083492PC gamers don't buy PS5s, no.
>>738083549then the logic in your post doesn't make sense.
>>738083202"expensive" games for everyone lab-made for mass appeal for goycattle, the fact that the only successful first party sony game is the hardcore and niche one is a badge of honor, honestlyBoi of War should stay in that shitty brick>>738083241retard that's third party
>>738083492Not in any great numbers, but with a decade or two of accumulated exclusives, maybe some would eventually think about whether it would be worth it after all to get a PS5 or PS6. It was completely delusional to begin with, but trying to convert PC players to the PlayStation ecosystem was one of their goals with this porting push (and the PSN account thing with Helldivers that backfired), i.e. get them hooked on the snoyslop, then cut them off by making the future games exclusive for PS6.
>>738080582PChads want real games not moviegame slop
>>738083156God of War 2018 sold 5 millionHorizon Zero Dawn sold 4 millionSpider-Man 2018 sold 3 millionDays Gone sold 4 million
>>738084020then all sequels flopped>fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice
>>738068172>It's more complex than you thinkPlease don't think. Thank you kindly, Sony.
>>738083241And the sequel didn't sell at all. Kojima fags are the most annoying bunch
>>738068172the sequels for sony's games are all downgrades
I tried sonybros, i bought Returnal and loved every second of it
>>738084725Over 600k in less than 2 months at 80 bucks
>>738085020And it will sell for years, as it's a typical title you'd buy at a sale.
>>738068172bloodborne could easily sell 1M on PC. maybe GT as well. not much else. modern sony is shit.
>>738080847yup I didn't even finish the game because I got board. I made it to the second island and said fuck it and uninstalled it.
>>738085020I don't understand this game
>>738085101modern Sony is ran by woke Californian retards. of course they don't know what they're doing
>>738071467>lead gaming platform>hardware becomes more and more unaffordableI don't know about that one chief.
>>73807740720000 games release on steam each yeareven if we take your 99.9% literally, .1% of 20000 is 20that's more good games per year than most fags here play in a decade
>>738068172They released movie games year(s) after their release, and are genuinely wondering why people who might have had interest in them chose to watch it for free on youtube instead of buying them at full price.They are stupid motherfuckers that failed business class.
>>738085282I don't either, I think Kojima has undiagnosed autism just from what i've played so far.Every single story beat has the team going COME BACK TO THE MAGELLAN FOR A REST SAMAt least in DS1 the early game without roads felt like a trek
Sonyfornia, Jim Ryan, Hermen Hulst... It was all a massive mistake. There was no reason to have two Xboxes, and I hope they can move back decision-making to Japan. It's the same stupid line of thought as seeing Japanese anime being really popular in the West and thinking if they Westernize it and appeal more to mainstream Western values they'll like it even more.
>>738075082It's nearly the middle of 2026 and there are STILL people thinking that Sony makes most of its money from their own games. They literally make billions a year in profit just from being the main centralized platform of choice for gachaslop, F2P trash, sportsball, codslop, and gta. Their first-party games are just extra.
Maybe if they ported Demon's Souls they would sell copies. I bet even that dogshit remake would sell 1-2mil copies easy and thats because the modding scene would heavily latch onto it and likely fix a lot of flaws. Even though that game has a lot of hatred for it, there are far more souls fans then there are any of those garbage ports of games nobody asked for.
>>738086501Third parties and residuals from MTX have been the way for a long time, but console wartards are obsessed with exclusives and will always be until they stop existing.
>>738068172Maybe it's because snoy games are shit? I've tried god of war, spiderman, and ghost of tsushima and only bothered to finish tsushima. Was a slog though. Didn't pay for any of them thankfully.
What they sell>Horizon Zero Dawn, Horizon Forbidden West>God of War, God of War: Ragnarok>Spider-Man, Spider Man 2What I want>Killzone, Killzone 2, Killzone 3>Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2, Resistance 3>Infamous, Infamous 2, Infamous: Festival of BloodAnd then there's Uncharted. They sell parts 4 and 5, but not 1, 2 and 3
>>738085020Lol sure it did. They would have posted sales numbers/milestones if so
>>738087079>>>Infamous, Infamous 2, Infamous: Festival of Bloodwhat about second son?
>>738068172i buyed boughted stellar blade
>>738068172Tsushima is the only decent game here. Maybe snoy should learn to make games.
>>738085020Sorry kojima fag. Even high conservative estimates put it at around 250-300k
>>738087646Tsushima is shit
>>738074613it's not free money. they have to pay to port the games
>>738087079Yeah that's kinda how I feel too! There's no Sly, parapa, Shadow of The Colossus, Gravity Rush, the original Little Big Planet series, but there's all this other bullshit.
>>738087079They don't even sell the bottom ones on PS4/5.
>>738087079nobody is buying Killzone or Resistance on PC If Spider-man is flopping, Killzone doesn't stand a ghost of a chance.
>>738068172I don't pay for hollywoodslop. And it's not like they're bundling garbage like black spider man 2 and horizon uglified west with PC peripherals so they aren't faking those numbers like they are the PS5 sales.
>>738088316Sure poojeet
>>738068679>1.2 millionlmao utter bullshit unless they're paying San Fran wages.
>>738088334you're delusional if you think Killzone would sell
>>738068172The only title worth a shit isn't on PC
>>738068172>no SAARos, Wolverine starring Debra Wilson or GoYPCbros, how can we carry on living...
I don't play design-by-committee garbage.If they want to sell me Playstation games then get some real nerds in the game dev studios again.
>>738068172You know what single player Sony title didn't sell poorly on PC? Stellar Blade.
>>738068172I thought that PC gamers were graphicsfags! Why don't they want to look at Aloy's hairy face in 4k with ray tracing?!
>>738068335*console ports
>>738088972Sony was different from the others in that Sony only had the exclusivity because they paid for it, whereas they paid for the development of the other games they published.
>>738075309>seething so hard he has to get an AI to help himlol.No bigger signal that you've lost than using AI.
>>738089284that's just a small niche of steam users with 5090 cards. most PC gamers have shitty GPUs, according to steam survey.
>>738068172I don't believe itso you're telling me something like Spider-man 2 sold 260k copies while new Heroes - Olden Era did the same in 1 day?
>>738068172Damn, spiderman 2 bombed.
>>738068172>>738068268That and to go a step further these are games that if you wanted to play them you would have invested in the PS ecosystem.
>>738068172Man, look at this list, no wonder this trash isn't selling. Imagine the average Snoy's reaction if back in like 2013 when they were saying their cinematic AAA stuff was true art and the future of gaming that in a decade they would be defending MCU tier trash.
No AAA game has interested me for the last decade.All good games are now indies.
>>738090154Spidey is going the way of Star Wars... and Star Trek... and Dr.Who... and Marvel... and DC...
>>738090215From 2016 to now? What are you defining as AAA?
>>738090292Anything made with a lot of money by one of the big developers, which are generally described as AAA.
Okay?What do you want? Subsidies for shit games no one wants?
>>738090631I want all suffering to be put to an end, for death to die, for all bellies to be full and for no animal to need to harm another.
It took a dumpster office PC and a $150 video card to take a hot shit on the PS4 Pro, which is why PC was so big for a while.
>>738090237I fucking wish. It's coasting by from Raimi's work.
>>738088217As someone who loves platformers, I didn't even bother finishing LBP. Even with a scrimblo game with no real story, it has to be a living, breathing world where you can imagine these scrimblos going about their lives in their own scrimblo way.It's one thing to have this as a level where you get to the end, find some asshole operating the controls, and kick his ass so that you can move on. It's not a great premise for an actual full setting.
>>738089562*PC releases
>>738068340>>738068172https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_PlayStation_5_video_gamesPS exclusives dont sell on PS5 eitherThis is what snoys never bring up Aside from Spiderman 2 and GT7 they're bottom of the barrel, compare it to Nintendo switch exclusive sales
>>738091705Ghost of Yotei sold like 6 million copies I think that's what seals the deal to change Sony's mind
>>738091865>Ghost of Yotei sold like 6 million copiesthe last update we got is 4 million and that's utterly pathetic for an exclusive
Big surprise. snoy movies are shit and only a snoy would pay to suffer them
>don't release game on PC at launch>try to double dip a year or two later>pc players don't play ball because they either already played it on their console, or know everything about the game already so they won't make a reckless decision>blame low sales on piracyGames that launch on PC on day one mysteriously don't have this issue.
>everyone wants bloodborne>port shit nobody wants instead
>>738068172Sold at full priceSold years after being on consolePorting games is cheap
>>738091640I wonder what the plan is if the chinese just stop buying one day.
>>738091865I really doubt that. Don't forget it was packed in as well
I pirated Tsushima on the ps4.Never played the others.
There arent millions more people looking for movie slop games that arent already on Playstation. They cant widen their audience, they are at maximum width already.
>>738093391bloodborne is too late, we've already emulated it.
>>738095085>bloodborne is too late, we've already emulated it.Only turd worlders emulated it. Check social media, the port begging never stopped, in fact it even intensified.
Snoy players are forced to eat shit, it's the only way they knowPC players are merely forced to wait and they're willing to wait and even skip if its trashSnoy cannot fathom and understand all of this while the other Jap studios know this and respect the PC gaymer
>>738095625No poojeet, your x farming accounts aren't people
>>738095695Quick correction, jap studios want the chinese. If they weren't buying these games they wouldn't bother. All of them are going all in on the switch 2 for this reasonT.half nip
>>738071680E33 was actually $50 and the reason it sold so well when Sony games don't is because it was designed by White people for White people
>>738068172Might've helped if Sony still made good games.
>>738095085retard. it would sell 2 million in 24 hours at minimum and 5 within a weekand yes i did emulate it and yes i would still buy it
>>738095862Fr*nch "people" aren't white
>>738068172Bad games sell poorly.
I think the last time I purchased a first party sony game outside of Spider-man 1 was the PS4 Infamous game. Sony games aren't fun.
What I'm seeing is that all the sequels sold like shit. By the time they came to PC, people were already seeing all the stupid shit in Ragnarok, the BLM shit in Spider-Man 2, and that one tranny's nipple in Forbidden West for years. Tsushima should have sold more than 700k though.
>>738096413Every one of those titles surpassed 10m copies sold on the console. Sounds like PC fatties don't buy games.
>>738096660isn't tsushima just another open world ubislop type game?
>>738096686They do, just not bad ones.
>>738068172steam fags only play dota and counter strike
>>738096738How can a bad game sell 10m?
>>738068172Full priced games never sell well on steam.
>>738068172this is why theyre backing off of pc
>>738068340They add PS+ downloads and bundles to that number.
>>738068172If Nintendo games were on Steam they would flop as well, tendie. Steamfags are poor than only play cheap shit
>>738068340Console games don't do well on PC and PC games don't do well on console.
>mediocre Souls-ish + tacked-on co-op>Erastest-Eramenos AAA gayslop>capeshit AAA slop>Horizon: Forbidden Make-upI tried the nip game for a few hours, and haven't touched it since. Had I paid for it, I'd have sought a refund.
>>738069310that site just guesses sales
>>738085392don't buy new hardware. no new game is worth it.
>>738068832>>738068674Ghost of Tsushima was designed similarly to PC titles like Skyrim, plenty of people on there will eat up open world slop if theres a progression system involving a pale guy with a sword
>>738091640why do they sell better on pc?
are there any mods that make alloy attractive in horizon?
>>738097695Tons, those still won't fix soi-dripping quests, dialogues or NPCs
returnal is legitimately good and if it did sell more than a million then it's deserved. the other games look like ass.there's also something to be said about releasing a game on platform X first and spending years saying "IT WILL NEVER EVER COME TO PLAYFORM Y SO DON'T EVEN BOTHER ASKING THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL EVER PLAY THIS IS TO PLAY IT ON PLATFORM X!" then years later VERY quietly release it on platform Y. many people who were interested played it on platform x
How about they try releasing their games on PC at launch? Crazy idea, I know.
>>738097186>pale guyhow brown are you
>>738098235sony's first port was a disaster too so that didn't help
>>738068172>>738068268>>738068340Almost as if pc players have a ps5 already and dont double dip
>>738098567why would i purchase a piss5? do i look retarded to you or something?
>>738098635because your pc sucks ass
>>738077145>laughs in Nintendo
>>738098732you sure about that senpai?
Where stellar blade?
>>738098923>cant even play thisyeah, that pc its bottom of the barrel
>>738068172Piracy is nothing but a bogeyman, an excuse for Snoy's terrible support of their PC ports. The fact they tried to use PSN as an extra layer of worthless DRM was a fatal mistake. That GOW Ragnarok got exposed as woke propaganda shortly before its PC port release didn't help either.You snoys are gonna shit themselves once the last consoles made by them and Microslop fail and die out.
>>738098982picrel is from game journos, if they included Stellar Blade it would've showed how hard it bent over and gaped the rest of snoy's pozzed garbage
>>738099032I have a ps5 pro and demon souls remake sucks. Feel bad browno
>>738099032i kekd, nice one
>>738099102so it takes a ps5 pro to run that game, and not even a high end PC can. self own
>>738099102It does suck but you have a 3k box that has no reason to exist. Go do some 3D modeling or AI quantum computations nigga
>>738068172Are those all $70 games?
>>738099163you cost $0 and have no reason to exist. Go reproduce or something nigga
>>738068172i wouldnt play any of those even if you gifted me a copy
>>738099052Well according to gamalytic's estimates it should have sold at least 3m on steam alonehttps://gamalytic.com/game/3489700
>>738099410i did my part the moment it appeared on steam. elder god tier game and if it's even timed exclusive i'll be buying a piss5 pro and returning it it amazon after beating the game
>>738099498>and if it's even timed exclusive i'll be buying a piss5 pro and returning it it amazon after beating the gamei obviously meant the sequel
>>738068172>piracyI don't think anyone was pirating those games either.
>>738068172A pretty great game does the best and nobody bothers with the 3 sequels that were a big let down. Wowie.
>>738096809By having a closed audience.
>>738096908[citation needed]
>>738099410Why should I care about this titty game?
>>738099752>acting like this wouldn't apply to nintendo's lineup>as if PC people would put up with their low budget baby games at 70 dollars either
>>738099926It's common sense. Why would they keep porting games that sell almost nothing on PC? It's not worth the hardware sales loss. Jason Schreier:NEW: Sony no longer plans to release PlayStation games on PC, sources tell Bloomberg News, a major shift in strategy that sees the console maker returning to exclusivity after six years of flirting with multiplatform. Games like Ghost of Yotei and Saros are not coming to PC.Why? There are a few factors. For one, some of their PC ports haven't sold all that well. Their PC strategy has always been muddled and inconsistent. There's also a faction within Sony Interactive Entertainment that believes PC sales can hurt the PlayStation brand and potentially impact console sales.
>>738080582Everyone interested had already watched it.
>>738099936you shouldn't because you're a faggot. good talk.
>>738097553Playstation is for watching movies, PC is for playing games.
>>738075173ThisIdgaf about most of their newer shit, but I’d be interested in stuff like Sly Cooper, Legend of Dragoon, Jak and Daxter, Infamous, and Wipeout.
>>738099936Because it's also a sony exclusive game that got ported to pc but they aren't mentioning it anywhere for some reason.
>>738099032You have been posting the same thing for at least 2 months nowhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/desremakes.jpg
>>738100065it's funny because if sony gave a shit about their brand they would have never released so many of those ports in such a shit state, the TLOU port was particularly disastrous
>>738099032Pollards btfo
>>738101323so?
>>738068424>70€Actually it's 80€ in europistan, all games that are releasing at inflated price don't do the 10€ cut and straight up release at full 80€
>>738101992That’s pretty fucked. US is $70 max for standard editions
>>738100065>its common senseGreat. So show any proof of sony saying that
>>738102145Here when they made the change into 70$ increased the number by 10€, the problem is that if you did the conversion at the time and added 21% tax it was around 61€, now with devaluation it's still around 72€.But it's been well know for decades that foreign corporations take huge advantage of the European market to get extra cash on every sale, especially when there's barely any tariffs on anything ever, literally this past christmas bought a 600€ watch from Singapore and barely paid 35€ in import fees.
>$60 on consoleFeels fine, feels normal>$60 on pcFeels outrageously expensiveDoes anyone know why this happens?
>>738069167And then Valve said you don't need a PC if you have a Steam Machine
>>738068172Xbox xissies!!!! This can't be happening!!!!!!!!
>>738075547>I have absolutely no desire to even pirate them.same. a lot of games aren't even worth trying now. trend chasing and cookie cutter gameplay was always an issue, but it's gotten a lot worse.
I really wanted to check out the new ratchet and clank, but they somehow managed to shoehorn gender politics into it and then release it late at full price.
>>738068172The more woke it is the less it sells lol, legit pattern
>>738071384I would upgrade from my 1060 3GB if there was a single good game that needed it. But there's none, last game that made me upgrade was GTA V and that released over a decade ago
>>738068172>a million gazillion consoles sold every generation>most exclusives can't even crack double digits on their home consoleMaybe the average exclusive game just fucking sucks.
>>738068172Wonder why absolute garbage didn't sell and the one reasonably alright game did. So very strange.Perhaps snoy should take note of what tsushima did right...Naaaaaaaah.
People forget, Gow 2018 succeeded on PC, it's Ragnarok that failed.But Ragnarok was trash, so word of mouth for it was bad, so by the time it released on PC, no one gave a fuck.
>>738104465>People forget, Gow 2018 succeeded on PC, it's Ragnarok that failed.>But Ragnarok was trash, so word of mouth for it was bad, so by the time it released on PC, no one gave a fuck.I mean comparing GoW 2018 to it's older iterations it's also trash, it's just slightly less trash than ragnarok. Let me know when Kratos can actually jump again instead of being glued to the damn ground like he's made of lead.
>>738104227This is real.I was interested in god of war until what they did to 2.I was interested in thr spider man games until what they did to 2 Go woke ho broke isnt a joke
Tsushima is the only good game in that list, no wonders
>>738104591No, Gow2018 is just a different games than older GOWs, completely different gameplay.Ragnarok is the same kind, it's just the game as a game sucked ass, absolutely atrocious narrative that you cannot ignore since it forces itself on you, and the gameplay had just quality of life updates. Bosses were much worse. Valkyries were so much better than the berserkers it's not funny. And given these side bosses were the highlight of 2018's gameplay, ultimately Ragnarök's gameplay is worse, because of worse bosses, doesn't matter that Kratos's side of the equation improved in a reactive gameplay design, which is the gameplay design of both games, if the bosses aren't nearly as fun.
>>738068172Oh gee let me guess:>TLoU1>TLoU2>Returnal>some Final Fantasy game>Spider-Man: Miles MoralesLiterally how could this happen I don't get it.
>>738068172gee I wonder why I could buy 2-4 other games for that price
>>738104790>No, Gow2018 is just a different games than older GOWs, completely different gameplay.Yeah it's different in that it's fucking trash.
>>738104840No, that's just your opinion. If you prefer the proactive gameplay of old GOWs, which are more like DMC, to reactive gameplay of nuGOW, which is more like Dark Souls/Sekiro. Then that's just your preference. That most people don't share btw.People see DMC-like gameplay as such mashy braindead trash. Not me. But generally there is more respect towards reactive gameplay design.
>>738104717>get a PS4 at the end of the gen.>catch up on some exclusives people said were amazing.>play GoW4, TLoU, Uncharted series.>they're all mediocre as fuck, and their sequels start doubling down on all the retarded aspects.>don't even bother with Ragnarok, TLoU2, and the Uncharted spin off. it would be nice to see someone make an actual survival horror game with TLoU's gameplay design instead of a lesbian revenge drama.
>>738105021>No, that's just your opinion. If you prefer the proactive gameplay of old GOWs, which are more like DMC, to reactive gameplay of nuGOW, which is more like Dark Souls/Sekiro. Then that's just your preference. That most people don't share btw.>People see DMC-like gameplay as such mashy braindead trash. Not me. But generally there is more respect towards reactive gameplay design.Right, see all you said is you like trash.
Oh look, it's all of the PC ports that were years late but also full price when they were literally on sale for $15-20 for a physical console copy before then.
>spend pennies to port a game>ONLY make billions of dollars in a month>quit
>>738068340Beggars can only eat the diarrhea shit that is fed to them, while choosers can afford to play literally anything else.
>>738105060No, that's not what i said. You've just lost too much in life, and gave up. That's fine.
>>738105418>No, that's not what i said. You've just lost too much in life, and gave up. That's fine.So you like trash, now is it just snoy garbage you enjoy or is it most refuse? Do you have a sexual fetish for enjoying things that belong in the dump?
>>738105498Like i said man, you cannot be engaged with, lost too much in life. That's why your family cannot stand you, if you have family that is.It always happens with people who lose too much in life. They shutdown. I mean it makes sense.
>>738099974the fuck are you TALKING about you schizo
>>738100138Anon I've seen titties more times than you've inhaled.Titty game does nothing for me.
>>738068172It's pretty funny, the only reason HZD and SM1 sold well is because people thought if they supported the ports Sony would do the most obvious thing in the world and port Bloodborne. When people finally realized Sony was beyond clinically retarded and wouldn't be doing a BB port and were only going to port movie slop games, they stopped buying them.
>>738105973you are a tranny or a tendie. which is it? either way your lineage is dead, fag
>>738068172>release them year(s) later>still full priced>3 out of 4 are garbage games with shitty woke storylinesgee I wonder why
>>738068172>No Gran TurismoFUCK OFF SONY
>>738106275I'm apparently, significantly more of a man than you are.And why are you seething about nintendo again?
>>738106704the fact that you object to me seething about nintendo but not you being a troon says it all. sorry you can't play it gayboy, maybe on the Shitch 3 if they remove half the outfits
I just wanted Bloodborne, you stupid fucking assholes. Maybe Gravity Rush but that was a dream I knew I would never get. Why the fuck would I want GoT? Its a shit game for shit idiots.
>>738106836So not only are you a projecting troon, but you can't read?And, again, why are you seething so much about nintendo? Are they the ones that made you cut your dick off?
>>738106945Troons are always seething about nintendo, it's the way they live.
>>738106980I don't see the connection.
>>738068172>Doom TDA sold more than all those combinedlol
>>738083156Marathon sold 1.2m across pc and consoles. Also Stellar Blade is the most successful, it sold 1m in 3 days
>>738107080I cannot believe anyone is playing marathon. Every time I looked at it, it looked like shit.
They didn't sell well because they still haven't discounted them to prices it would make sense to buy,(at pc release) 3-5 year old games somehow still being listed for 60-70$ a year after the port. The other obvious is most owners aren't going to buy the game again if the still own it.
>>738068172>put shitty ports and remakes on pc>blame the customersI just can't stand Sony
I refuse to buy games with denuvo, even when they go on sale for less than $10. if snoy wants my money they should stop packing malware with their games.
>>738107294fuck, they've got denuvo?I've yet to see a game that justified having that shit on my computer. The only ones I own are ones that I didn't know had denuvo.
>>738068172>260,000
>>738107326sony literally owns the company that makes denuvo
>>738068172The only one of these I was remotely interested in was Ghost of Tsushima and it had been so long since it came out that my interest had waned significantly.
>>738107360man, how the mighty have fallen.
>>73806867925-100k copies already covers that price. Sony is just a pathetic org that can't manage into a single profitable GaaS
>>738068172>wokeslop
>>738068172Didn't these also get released in some cases years after they came out? Releases live and die by their opening day, marketing, and online hype, whether we like to admit it or not.
>>738068795>hey man can we not play as mary jane so much in a spider man game>"i hate you chuds we'll make you plays as her more in the second one"what the fuck did they expect
>>738071680>those games are all very different from what Sony makes thoughbecause they have gameplay?
