Are there any games about surviving on a planet around a red dwarf?
>>738072074How do b and c not crash into each other
>>738072501dumb scalelet
>>738072501Its not showing the planets to scale anon.
>>738072074Elite DangerousNo Mans Sky
>>738072074You wouldn'tThe star is so weak life as you understand it cannot exist
No Mans Sky has you surviving on varying degrees of difficult to survive on planets I guess
>>738072617wrong. the planet just has to be a lot closer to the star to be in the goldilocks zone
>>738072617>star is 10x weaker>planets are 10x closerProblem solved
>>738072617Retard, the habitable zone is scaled to the star's output. So TRAPPIST-1 e recieves similar energy as Earth.
>>738072074The solar system in outer wilds is tiny so I guess there's that.
>>738072501because space is fake
reminder that the trappist planets and all planets in the habitable zones of red dwarves are subjected to solar flares hundreds of times more intense than our sun's most powerful multiple times a day
>>738072074>surviving on a planet around a red dwarf?It'd be practically impossible. Given the sheer amount of solar radiation that habitable zone planets get hit by, atmospheres can't form, and all planets eventually become barren, uninhabitable rocks. Don't forget about tidal locking at those distances. The idea that planets orbiting red dwarfs are worthwhile candidates for life has long since been discredited by astronomers. G-type stars like our sun have the best balance of longevity (lifespan in billions of years) and distance from the habitable zone to allow planets to form atmospheres and for life to emerge.
>>738072501they do every day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2o2G7PpfJQElite Dangerous has its Planet of Death which passes through the jet of a neutron
>>738073946G-type stars are better for forming life but K-type stars will be better for long-term habitation as they will outlive the current G-type stars by several tens of billions of years. The next generation of stars will be too high metallicity to form suitable planets for living on, so we will have to move to orange and eventually red dwarfs at some point if we want to continue existing.
>>738074446ED still does not let you land on atmospheric bodies or build surface bases.
>>738074591>Atmospheric bodiesYou can land on bodies with tenuous atmospheres, enough that the view from the surface appears more Earthlike, with stars less visible, the star a glow rather than more defined body>Surface basesYou absolutely can build surface bases, settlements and installations now. It's not Minecraft levels of customization but there are dozens of options
>>738072074Dyson Sphere Program
>>738072074I dunno about "surviving" but the antagonist of Star Ocean 4 destroys a solar system that's home to one of the main characters.
>>738073929Why is our sun so good and gentle to us?
Can I get a point and click adventure of Red Dwarf instead?
>>738075590It's conscious. Most stars are, maybe even some planets.
>>738075631Damn. What do you think our planet thinks of us?
>>738075724Disappointment, lately.
>>738075616IT'S COLD OUTSIDE THERE'S NO KIND OF ATMOSPHERE
>>738072753>calls him a retard>forgets that the entire output of the star is differentlol get radiated idiot
>>738076718Retard, read this sentence again. Carefully.>the habitable zone is scaled to the star's output
>>738072501ever been to india?
Literally all "habitable exoplanets" news are sensational pseudo-science made to generate clicks. At best it's like - there's an element in atmosphere that gives it 0.1% chance of SUPPORTING life. Literally smaller than there being bacteria on Mars or some shit.
>>738076915More like we can't even go there to check so it's all pure speculation and incompete info
>>738072074Damn, a space thread when I was about to head to bedAnyway I started playing KSP again and I just downloaded the Principia mod, which is pretty cool. Basically it gives you proper orbital mechanics where your vessel is actually affected by all bodies at once instead of just the one from the current SOI you're in
>>738076795>i dont know how radiation works so i'll just repeat the same incorrect statement I have just the game for you my friend. Go live on a gas giant.
>evangelion >bayonetta >luna>pragmata >real lifewhy is the moon so kino
>>738075590Our Sun is trying to destroy us every second of every day for our entire existence. It's only because the Earth's various defense mechanisms shield us from enough of its attacks that what does get through does only minor damage at best and is actually beneficial in other cases.
>>738077798Because it's literally Earth's baby. After Daddy Theia plowed into Mommy Earth with the force of a thousand suns, Mommy was left to raise the Moon all on its own.
>>738072074Not really.Thr last Space game I played was Civilization: Beyond Earth, but I don't think that counts since you're not really exploring space
>>738072074large lifeforms probably couldn't survive with such little sunlight.it would be like us trying to live on Titan or something. the peak sunlight would be equivalent to sunlight right before sunset on Earth.
>>738077665I know stars of different temps have different output spectra. But the HZ can still be determined from the star's luminosity alone. That's not to say every HZ is habitable, just that it's the area at which stellar irradiation is the same as in our Sun's HZ and so gives us a pretty good baseline for other stars.
It's crazy how it took millions of years of evolution for us to develop our current intelligence and then civilization just exploded over a mere 10 thousand years and we completely reshaped the landscape and ecosystem.
>>738072074>Red dwarfs are violent retard toddlers of stars>All planets are tidally locked to the star since they're so close>The best case scenario are completely hypothetical eyeball planets>All known examples of red dwarf super earths are expected to be lava ocean mini NeptunesPersonally I think a Halo Ring would be cooler idk.
>>738078631You're not wrong but your comparison is. Saturn recieves 1% of the sunlight that Earth does, and Titan, at its surface through its thick smog, recieves 1% of THAT sunlight, so it's 0.1% as bright on Titan as it is on Earth.Proxima b recieves 65% of the sunlight as Earth does, which is still fairly bright. Mars revieves about 45%, which is like an overcast day on Earth, so it's somewhere in between there. However, because its red dwarf star emits very little blue light, it would look more like an Earth twilight to our eyes even with the sun straight overhead.
>>738078868Fuck that, give me ringworld
>>738072719>>738072727>gets destroyed by solar flares and radiationSciencelets don’t know about local fine tuning. Only yellow G-type stars like our sun can sustain life, and they are like 7-8% of all stars. Bigger stars also can’t support life either
>>738072753>TRAPPIST-1 e damn, they have good beer there?
>>738072753Red dwarfs are more volatile, they emit more solar flares, randomly dim upwards to half their outputs during sun spot events, and a bunch of other stuffTheir light is obviously also redder in the emission spectrum, plants want more blue shifted light. Plants in a red dwarf system would grow slower and be able to sustain less of an ecosystem higher up the chain
>>738075590God made it like that
>>738075590It wants to fuck
>>738078714We have only just begun the exploration of the universe. We are the pioneers of the future of humanity. It is simply impossible to predict where will be even 100 years from now, let alone another millennium. Or 10,000 years. We can never know and that frustrates me greatly. How would you even explain to Galileo Galilei that we've sent multiple unmanned vessels to explore the Moons he discovered and beam back photographs up-close? How would a caveman who only sees in the night sky a bright disc accompanied by thousands of colourful dots even begin to comprehend that there's another world up there that we've walked on and billions more around all those tiny lights? Accordingly, at the current rate of technological advancament, how are we to even consider what the future might look like when with every new discovery a hundred more questions follow? AlI know is that we must do what we can to continue pushing the boundaries so we can keep alight the flame of consciousness in this cold universe. You might see it pointless to dream about the far future, but the future will always arrive. Do you ever think to yourself "Gosh, that video game is two years away, that's forever!" and then one day you suddenly realise it's been two years and you have no idea how that happened? Now imagine that on the grand scale of things. The steady march of time never stops, which is why we must continue to dream about the future and facing the unknown.
>>738079750i'm going to jack off to futa MLP porn
>>738079170Couldn't a different sort of life develop over time?
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>trappist systemdo you think there are any traps there anons
>globeheads still believe in spacewew lads
>>738075590>>738078238no, he's teaching us to be strong and resilient, like a father
>>738080903Of course. All these claims that 'life' cannot exist are all based on what is know from Earthly organisms. It's entirely possible that organisms that are completely, well, alien to what we know about life exist somewhere we would consider totally uninhabitable.
