What did old games do better?
>>738073486>>>/vr/
>>738073486uncslop.
tf is this uncy ahh blud shit bro
>>738073486Just being games. That's not exactly a high bar, but when a modern game is someone talking for 10 minutes, then walking through an empty field, then meeting with someone else and talking for 10 minutes, it's like they specifically tried to make it unfun to play.
>>738073486Nothing. Nobody wants to hear it but modern gaming is an objective improvement in 99% of areas, not just muh grafix. People who champion the ancient games they grew up with haven't played any of them in 20+ years, and if they went back now and tried they'd fucking hate them. They know this too, which is why they won't, because they're too afraid of removing the nostalgia glasses.
>>738073734>modern gaming is an objective improvement in 99% of areasthe 1% being the soul
>>738073486They actually got released
>>738073808And there it is, the nebulous "muh soul" non-argument that means "I like my childhood games because of nostalgia". Not a single one of you can tell me what "soul" means objectively, because it doesn't mean anything at all except in relation to your personal feelings, which are irrelevant.
Size
>>738073883keep seething and dilating
>>738073947>no argument>TRANNYTRANNYTRANNYI accept your concession.
>>738073734Maybe you should just try playing old games for once instead of spreading some weird headcanon. Play Ninja Gaiden until you get it. No rewind and savestates, of course.
>>738073486being the first, therefore nostalgia for you boomer faggotsplenty of these old games suck ass and wouldn't sell for shit if released today
>>738073883>videos games don't have soulslol okay atheist
>>738073972ywnbaw
>>738073990I'm older than you, I've played more "retro" games than you, and modern gaming is objectively better. I'm sorry that makes you so upset, but the game you remember playing 20 years ago doesn't actually exist.>>738074034>retard babble>still can't define what "soul" means>>738074040I already accepted your concession. You can stop embarrassing yourself.
>>738074018>she conflates sales numbers with quality
>>738074075t r i g g e r e d
>>738074075>I'm older than youBeing as old as Pong isn't an argument.>I've played more "retro" games than youYou haven't, and haven't beaten any in the current decade unlike me.
>>738074184>N-NUH UH!I accept your concession.
>>738074075>i'm having a bad day :(thing's will get better! sending you happy vibes and good sensations!
>>738074228she's always like this, not just this day
>>738074213>projectionThanks for the free win.
>>738074228>schizo is seeing posts that don't existTake your meds.
Music was way more memorable.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-z1HLxLJto&list=PL97FBDB1FE18B2E34&index=12
>>738074256>doesn't know what projection means>tries for a "no u" anywayPick your opponent more carefully next time, dog.
>>738073486My parents actually paid for them
>>738073734>t. shitty game dev who is probably a trannyI'd rather play Morrowind again.
>>738074326you know, even winning a dumb internet argument is considered retarded right.
>>738074480What is it with you retards and your obsession with trannies? It reeks of projection.Also, I accept your concession. Nobody has presented an argument or refutation of my post, which means I win.
>>738074507>>738073972
>>738074506>y-you win, Master...I know.
>>738074549not that guy, moron
What an insufferable cunt
>>738074578>n-not himI embarrassed you.
>>738073486Efficiency
>>738074507You have made exactly 0 people in this thread want to play modern games.
>>738073486not afraid of offending liberals
>>738073486>What did old games do better?they were new
>>738073734>People who champion the ancient games they grew up with haven't played any of them in 20+ years, and if they went back now and tried they'd fucking hate them.That's only because most people are retarded goyim who only like games for nostalgia. The reality is that games of the past were and are far better, like all forms of media. But that the normalfags only like whatever toddlerslop they played as a child (GTA is todderslop by the way).
>>738074685Why would I care if retards stuck in the past play modern games or not? You can keep living in your delusion, it doesn't affect me at all. I'm just superior to you.>>738074860That is not the reality at all, and you're exactly who I was talking about.
>>738074971>and you're exactly who I was talking about.I'm currently playing a Sega Saturn game fan translated into English from 1997, lower your tone cattle.
>>738074075you lost btw
>>738075060Okay I totally believe you.>>738075081>no argumentKeep barking, dog.
>>738073486You start up the game and are just thrown in the start of the game.Lengthy intros and tutorial sections are too common now.
-art direction-music-sense of adventure compared to technological constraints-soul-focus on GAMEplay over tutorials, cutscenes, or any bullshit.
>>738075125>Okay I totally believe you.I hooked up my capture card for this.
>>738075275>turn based babbyslopLOLOLOLOL
>>738075321If you limit yourself to only real time games you are cattle.
>>738075358>if you only play good games blah blah blahTurn based "games" are glorified slideshows for children. I bet you watch anime.
>>738075421AAA goychow is literally made for your inhuman kind.
>>738075451>strawmanI accept your concession.
>>738075275looks soulful
>>738075560You only like games made for the lower forms of humanity, what else should I call you?
>>738074075>I'm older than you, I've played more "retro" games than you, and modern gaming is objectively better.Nope>the game you remember playing 20 years ago doesn't actually exist.game hasn't gone anywhere, can play it any time
>>738075580It's pretty good, pretty grindy and quite rage inducing at times because of the nature of card games and RNG. Really unique atmosphere and it's basically all gameplay, very little story.
>>738073656Millennial here but this meme word always makes me laugh. I encourage its use.
>>738073486Being a complete product on launch day.
>>738076305lol noVirtually every game releases unfinished.
>>738073486You want to honestly know the truth and I guess not have it be too long didn't read paragraphs? Alright I'll break it down for you in bullet points.Better sense of:- Mystery- Exploration - AdventureVisuals:- Distinct appearance despite being on aged hardware- Games stood out and could often be recognizable just on art design alone- Often would use other visual cues that would fit thematically unlike modern games with their yellow shit paint or tape everywhereGameplay:- Games often had unique differences from one another with gimmicks that make a game feel like well, a game- Actual legit challenge - Often free of the handholding garbage you see in modern games like forced tutorials that tell you what should be obvious shitOther points:- Sound and music often unique and free of constant orchestra or lame cringe worthy Oh Ahh chanting like we are in fucking church all the time- Devs were not afraid to make a game look, sound and play like a game- So much designs and characters have become too ironic to ever really die at this point>final thoughtsMost modern slop will be forgotten about in time. People will not care about shit like The Last of Us or other Sony movie slop in the distant future. This is despite that shit having a tv show and legions of normgroid drooling tards that consumed it because they are brainlet consumers that buy into hype and need their shitty games to have feels. People however will still be talking about or fondly remembering games like MGS 1/2/3, the original SH2, the OG FF7, Castlevania's NES days or even 16-bit days, and so on and so forth.
>>738073486Beings games as opposed to being products.
>>738073656I am sorry you cant experience anything of value anymore, zoomer.
>>738073486Games with tiny budgets and passionate developers almost always result in kino, SOVLFUL games.
>>738076534>the original SH2SH is like The Godfather of video games in the sense everyone seems to be happy to go along with pretending it's great but few people actually bother to sit through it and if you actually really look at the thing it becomes very apparent it's actually quite mediocre.
>>738073486they didnt have genres. See this? Metal Mutant. You played as a cyborg that could transform into a Tank or a Dinosaur and the level was a Swamp. One of your moves was to send a remote controlled drone or a misisle or a flamethrower.
>>738073486They were designed around the limited ways a player could even engage with the game. Take your pic for example, the controls were literally just the D-Pad and the A and B buttons. Movement too was just left, right, up, and down. So, the whole game was designed with just that in mind but resulted in a tight, clean experience without needless clutter or filler bullshit. New games don't even know what they want to be half the time or try to squeeze in too much stuff. In the past, nobody was ever saying "Dude, X gets better like 7 hours in, trust me".
>>738073734Playing retro games vs playing modern games is like driving an older car vs a brand new slopWagen with an ipad as the dashboard. The new car is easier to drive with all the modern assist functions and it parks for you, the "infotainment" lets you play and stream all your podcasts and youtube slop out of the box. But the heated seats are a paid subscription and just changing the AC is a huge pain in the ass because of the touch controls. The car has quality control issues, it keeps breaking and the earlier models had a recall because the airbags were exploding.
god i really should replay some of these games. So much fun
Covert Action. still the best spy game ever made
>>738077264If people discuss TLOU2 in the next 25 years the way they have discussed SH2 since its release maybe only then will you have some point. But until then your post comes off as desperate nitpicking simply because you didn't like the game. And I am fine with the fact many that liked it probably only watched it on youtube or Twitch. I really don't care. I've played it plenty of times and know its one of the best games ever. I don't need some internet neckbeard telling me otherwise because he wants to bait. You aren't going to convince me that jew tranny loving shit game TLOU2 is better in regards to story or horror.
Bioforge. Just interesting scifi and you never knew what to expect from the mechanics
I FUCKING LOVE METAL SLUG
>>738073710pretty sure half life 2 starts this way for the first entire hour and it's hailed as one of the greatest games of all time
Magic Carpet was not just ahead of its time when it came out. It is *still* ahead of its time today. Would break people's mind if it was re-released.Bullfrog really was something else. They made this, Syndicate (Wars), Dungeon Keeper.
>>738077529>Dude, X gets better like 7 hours in, trust meI want to strike people who say this shit. If a game sucks after 7 hours, it's a shit game.>>738077264>ummm ACKSHUALLY the Godfather and Silent Hill are QUITE mediocre *snorts and parrots some YouTube tranny's video "essay"You are very smart, aren't you? Yes you are! You want a gold star?
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Syndicate Wars. In a game from 1996 I had the following scenario happen as i was replaying it.A flying policecar came up to my guys, I shot at it as it approached, it explodes then careens sideways into a tall building, slams into it and the building comes crashing down in a wave of fire and smoke killing one of my guys. Not scripted, just the path of the crashing car hit the building.
>>738077989good reply honestly
>>738077862>and it's hailed as one of the greatest games of all timeThose people are idiots though.HL2 has not stood the test of time and because it's no longer technically impressive everyone who goes back to play both HL1 & HL2 almost always prefers HL1 specially because HL2 is full of modern gaming cancer.
>>738076396Yes, the og Nintendo games was famous for their day 1 patches
RTS hybrids should have stayed a thing through the 10s
>>738078092*monkey's paw curls in the past*
>>738078070Not a lot can go wrong with such simple games. And yet they usually released in a half-finished state because they'd only give the 6 guys making them 3 months to make an entire game and they would actually have bugs and those bugs would often be never fixed because the only way to fix them is with another round of manufacturing. They did actually sometimes bother to do that but most of the time they didn't.
>>73807348680s games were what they were. Most were simplistic console games, many with great mechanics, but that was basically the limit back then, with a few exceptions that pushed boundaries, particularly on the C64. However, starting in the late 80s and lasting until the early 2000s, there was a massive revolution in gaming on PC, with new and experimental genres turning gaming into something more than arcade games and games for kids. However, consoles were stuck in the past, partially because most games were made by japs, who were only ever good at making arcade games, fighters and platformers, and partially because of the extremely limited hardware, monitors (old TVs) and controllers available for consoles.That's an important detail that a lot of people forget when talking about old games being better. They were better on PC, but consoles have been trash since the late 16-bit era, and that never changed.
>>738077996Syndicate Wars was shit though. Just play the original Syndicate.
>>738078796>muhhh PEEEE SEEEEEE"PC" stands for Practicing Cuck
>>738073734>People who champion the ancient games they grew up with haven't played any of them in 20+ years, and if they went back now and tried they'd fucking hate them. They know this too, which is why they won't, because they're too afraid of removing the nostalgia glasses.But I play old games I never touched before and discover that they're great?I recently played through Ghost Lion, a 5/10 NES RPG. Loved it, bought myself a physical copy even. The only "fault" of NES RPGs is that they're simple. But guess what, I want that, it's just a fucking game I want to play for some fun
>>738078306Name 3 NES games where this was the case without any jap releases that got patches because the international translation was a year later.
>>738079239>older games are better because they're simple for retards like meExplains a lot
>>738073486More fun, less homogenized (every modern AAA pause menu looks the same), more memorable music, more experimental, better art direction.
>>738079365I'm perfectly capable of completing FF7R and did so at release. Then I immediately resold the game. I bought it cause nostalgia, and nostalgia alone isn't enough
>>738073548Congratulations on getting the first reply, I'm sure your family is proud and you'll look back on this moment as the reason your life wasn't a total waste, but there's no rule against discussing old games on /v/. This is more on-topic than most of the board's threads. Maybe you should go and be a back-seat janny in a thread that actually breaks the rules.
>>738080384Thanks... Y.. You too!
>>738080045>he thinks the fucking FF7 demake is an example of a complex game
>>738080449Your counterarguments contain no specifics, you're just picking at any detail I say
>>738077862Nobody on earth thinks Half-Life 2 is one of the greatest games ever. Nobody has brought up or talked about that game in nearly 30 years, unlike actual classics that people talk about even to this day.
>>738080560You claimed older games are better because they're simple, then you claimed that FF7R is an example of a game that isn't simple, which is wrong. You are simply low IQ.
>>738080639>You are simply low IQ.Says the anon that can't even read
>>738080725>no uI accept your concession.
>>738077862Half-Life 2 has a problem with locking a door so someone can just spout a monologue forever. It's not an open world game where fights are placed a mile away from each other, but it doesn't have the same immediacy NES games often do.
>>738081179You aren't even capable of spelling correctly as you misquote me and make things up
>>738077873Populous, Theme Park, Theme HospitalBullfrog was based AF!
>>738073486Trusting the player to figure out the game, experimenting and taking risks, not having microKEKsactions, being efficient with space.
>>738081759Point out what was misspelled, you ESL cretin.
>>738082551He's talking about writing "you" as "u." I wouldn't care very much about someone misspelling a word, and "no u" is common enough that it makes sense to spell it that way on purpose, but he is technically correct that a word is spelled wrong.
Music and its not even close
>>738082835He is a retarded newfag then.
Character design
>>738073734>People who champion the ancient games they grew up with haven't played any of them in 20+ years, and if they went back now and tried they'd fucking hate them.Finished Pokemon Blue a few months ago. Sorry you need woke garbage, zoomie
>>738080580Half Life 2 was just a tech demo.Play though it with the commentary on the developers confirm it.
>>738075421Woah I wonder what kind of "game for adults" you play, zoomie, go ahead, post them.Inb4 Fromslop
>>738083587>turn-based babbyslop>turn-based babbyslop even among other babbyslop>random /pol/ strawmanI'm smarter than everyone in this thread.>>738083754>strawman
>>738083784lol
>>738083784>Didn't post the "adult" games he playsNot only a retard but also a pussy. You could at least be only one of them.>muh strawmanYour "arguments" are "I am smart these games are for children" so don't expect to get into a deep discussion about game design, you are just a low IQ zoomer
>>738083859>>738084054>off topic shitposting garbageDidn't even bother clicking. I accept your samefaggot concession.
>>738084732>Didn't even bother clickingDidn't you mean "reading"? lmao dumbass
>>738084883>dumb piece of shit is too new to know how images on 4chan work
>>738085051>retard doesn't even use hover imageExpected from a <80 IQ zoomie
>>738077862hl2 has never been more than "the sequel to the offline game included with your purchase of counter-strike"
>>738083784>I'm smarter than everyone in this thread.You've told us nothing about yourself as you've shat up this threadProvide some sort proof of your claimNo proof? >in before "I accept your concession"
>>738085229>he uses 4chan XWhat a cuck.>>738085413Pipe down, your better is talking.
>>738085510>Pipe down, your better is talking.I accept your concession
>>738085510>4chan XIt doesnt require 4chan X lmao stop eating tide pods
>>738085578>>738085581>no argument whatsoeverI win again.
>>738085640>I win again.I accept your concession, again
>>738085665>all he can do is parrot his superiorRespond to this post, puppet.
>>738085774See >>738085413No proof, you are retarded
>>738075960I don't. It makes me mad.
>>738085774Dozens of posts claiming to be smart and he can't even post his GED to shut people up
>>738086043>durr, I have a GED I'm smart
>>738085640>>738085774Post the superior "adult" games you play, zoomie pussy.
>>738084732>faggot pussy didn't post anythingof course, kek. What's the matter baby, scared we'll shit all over your modernslop? LOL
>>738086135I accept your concession
>>738073486No shaders to compile
>>738073486They were just better at being video games.Games now are closer to interactive TV shows than they are video games.>>738074727Vendetta is one of the best beatemups ever made.It's so much better than konami's licensed slop it's insane.
Play Megaman X and you may find outNot hating on modern games, that'd be silly, but a vidya connoisseur can't sleep on /vr/
>>738085510>>738085640>>738085774>>738086135I like how this Anon didn't realize that every post after >>738085413 was a concession of being retarded, and then fled
>>738073486Everything except sandbox games as far as I'm aware. Minecraft, terraria, etc, couldn't have been done before the 6th gen and wouldn't have been made by big companies because the appeal was niche. It still is but most people play minecraft and terraria the exact same way which misses the point.
