>I will continue acting like a retard just for fun despite being 600 years oldis this good writing?
PM hasn't been good since LobCorp. I don't know who the hell this is.
ITT
>>738075078After the first hundred, you stop giving a shit.
>>738075078Why is this game so popular but its revenue so low?
>>738075078hmmm yes????>>738075405for being a 2D sprite collector gacha game ala azur lane and also being based on classic literature it's doing incredibly good, getting constistently over 1M USD per month is quite a feat
>>738075405El Director said they can go 3 years without income.
>>738075753This. He stated he is happy on the current state of the game and feels no need to improve or expand his production pipelines, so he can run the game basically forever.
>>738075078Sancho was always a retard, she was just too depressed as a child and then had too much responsibility as a bloodfiend to express it. When she donned Rocinante and drank the waters of Lethe she forgot her depression and responsibilities and became free to be the turbo retard fixer fangirl Don Quixote that she always was deep inside. Her return to her sad Sancho personality in canto 6 is just her briefly being overwhelmed by her past sadness again before being re-affirmed by Dante and the other Sinners that she can put all that in the past properly and keep being her true retarded self.
>>738075078she doesn't do that though. She acts silly but she does go back to normal quite often now
>>738075405it's not made for normalfags with bland appeal. It's for extreme autists that genuinely care for shit like character writing and don't just want new blank white bread waifus to collect in their harem simulator
>>738075078shes literally me limbussisters
Are there any instances where unnaturally old characters act like someone that old would? How would these +300yr olds even act like?
She had to because it's Gacha, that's why people buy her banners and roll for her banners. There's only so much development possible considering the chains they're dragging
>>738075405It's probably the best gacha to be a free to play, or low spender in. The season pass makes it extremely easy to farm all of the characters in game, costs less than 20 bucks, and a season lasts over half an year.And since devs have kept that constant for all of the game's runtime, they clearly don't feel need to get more money.
>>738077498The go-to technique is making the characters speak in a really archaic way, while also not understanding newfangled technology. Actually kind of funny with Donqui because she speaks in an old fashioned way because she's wacky, not because she's old.
>>738077392Which is odd, since Limbus is second only to mihoyo games in terms of the number of normalfags per square meter
>>738077661This, even my 13yo sister knows about PM world via fucking roblox of all things
>>738077661good things still sell and become popular even if they're not made with normalfags in mind
>>738077515she's dragging the chains...of others?
>>738075078>acting>just for funShe's a child at heart who was never allowed to be a child even in her actual youth. The dignified ancient vampire attitude is the act, it's fueled by depression and a self-loathing refusal to engage with the things she likes.
>>738077498>How would these +300yr olds even act like?Bored.
>>738075078In Don Quixote, it's the Knight of Mirrors that forces him to wake up to the reality that his act is ridiculous, there was an arc of that in minor in her canto, but she didn't actually deal with him.>>738076015Retarded take.
>>738078176Was the>She's just pretending to be a child?thing really too subtle for you to comprehend?
>>738078504>Retarded take.NTA but that's literally what happened, she goes back to JUSTICE adventures because that's what she wants to.
>Hehe i turned my body into a sword except my brain>get it it's the ship of Theseus am i not so artistic am i right it's so deep and metaphorical
>>738078596What are you talking about? The April fools? Look man, any reading of Don's canto that concludes with "she has no real reason to go back to the act" is flagrantly retarded. You should know better than this just by reading all the dialogue.
>>738078754She goes back to JUSTICE adventures because it's her way of trying to achieve her dreams. Don't Quixote in the play was the same, he didn't just decide to larp as a knight because he thought it was cool or to find self-gratification, but because that was the only way he could envision saving a corrupt world, to be a hero in proportion to it's own evil.Don't Quixote (both of them) is the same. They see how bad things are, and believed the way to reverse it is to live as a true hero.Don't Quixote is just a persona, which is emphasized by how Sancho takes on the identity purposfully after her father's death, to fulfill their shared dreams.
>>738077498Dementia and brain damage
>>738078835>Check fauvism out>They use le unironically
Muh Rashomon kinerino!!!!!!*leaves*
Well that happened.
>>738079223they're french, anon.
Saru...
>>738079609>Surely turning the dog into a living sword will cheer my daughter upThat aside I thought the Spiral was a one time thing but they did it every mission.
>>738079835insane how despite torturing her dog and the constant gore scuptures being his solution to every one of yoshihides problemshe's still the "best" nursefather in retrospect
>>738077706>buy LobCorp for my sister, forgetting she can't handle cute things dying>enjoys the game until the first nugget blows it's own brains out>drops the gameWhoops.
>>738077392Those things are not self-contradictory. E33 has great character writing and it found normalfag success.Also>implying Limbus has good character writingHave you played Canto 5 and 7?
>>738075078>just for funNo, for JUSTICE
I might have an idea what Dante's sign actually does.It allows him to create a contract or a bond with other people. In exchange for him granting the wish of a Sinner, the Sinner would lend their 'abilities' to Dante.So I think that abilities we see Dante use are actually innate abilities of the Sinners.Ability to revive? That's Heathcliff's Wild Hunt.Ability to remember after memory erasure? That's Ryoshu's ability to perceive time.Ability to extract and use identities? That's Yi Sang's connection to the mirrors.Sephirah abilities? That's Gregor's connection to Sephirah and Hermann's attempt of creating Adam Kadmon.Ability to talk to retards on 4chan? Faust's Gesselshaft.What do you guys think?
>>738081621Laetitia is olev
>>738077498there's loads of literature written by early 1700's people, it's mostly of a gentry or mercantile class that read high level literature for fun and where really into philosophy and the occult, while being verry physically active. An odd mix of theater kid and jock while being casually intelligent, people who could would read for fun.The industrial revolution's obsession with standardization and the effects of tv media have been disastrous on the psyche of normal people, the manual laborers of the day where also different, physical harsh work without automation and mostly extended family as friends make a very different type of person, their disgust levels around each other where pretty low, just as one's more comfortable farting around family but not the public, they'd go more extreme in the casualness level since all they could do is hang out around people, they knew each other on a level of depth we cant fathom.to go further back to pre syphilis times, people where alot more open sexually, it wasn't good to be a whore, but priests and bishops ran brothels and seeing your neighbor fuck his wife wasn't that odd. parents would fuck in the same bed their kids slept in. some cultures where prude beforehand, but syphilis was a big wave of prudishness, seeing heavy fornicators get disfigured from disease and then go crazy if they survived made a lot of the things we associate with old timey prudishness become dominant parts of society.
>>738081621Considering our Erlkkings are mirror entities and don't even properly revive people, the "range" and effectiveness on this would be absurd.
>>738075405The devs are not greedy cunts.
>>738081621Surely each of the Sinners abilities would be the Sephirah abilities themselves.
>>738075405cause theres no gameplay so the costs stay low
>>738081621And from Rodion? Absolutely nothing
>>738079609seeing everyone's immense disappointment that saru was just a random puppy is still really funny to me
>>738080528>E33 defender>dogshit opinionGo figure
>>738082301Crazy to think that those guys had absolutely no idea that was the best time to live in. But I bet people 300 years in the future will say the same for us now too so I'd like to say: get fucked idiots I get to jerk off and game all day while you're a castrated slave lmaoooo
Don sex.
>>738081621>Dante "the Limbus Compay" Alighieri do you know how long it's been since you've paid taxe- (somethings off)<By using the sunlight I received from Muersault and pulling it from every timeline with the ability I got from Sinclair...>>What the fuck is he ticking about<Imaginary technique: The Unmatched Power of the Sun>And then 300 limbillion people died.
>>738083516>E33 hater>defends the rancid dogshit that was Canto 5Sasuga
>>738080528>Have you played Canto 5 and 7?You mean the best cantos after 4? Yes I did.6 and 8 are one of the trash cantos where nothing really happens, and peak around the middle of the canto.
my brain is too small to be able to play lobcorp so I had to watch a youtube summaryand I'm too busy to complete library of ruina but at least my brain is large enough to deck builders so it will probably happen eventually
>>738084937>Nothing really happensSpeedreader or skipper? Hmm
>>7380849376 and 4 are the only cantos that even come close to Legend of Ruina's writing. 5 mischaracterised one of the most memorable book characters and 7 was bad enough for me to drop Limbus.
>Legend of Ruina
>>738085170Yes, what of it?
>continue being joyful and whimsical without a care in the world>go back to being a stale crackers and tap water character with zero emotionsidk dude i think you're just a retard
>>738085089>being a bookbrown in 2026Genuinely embarrassing at this point
>>738085170newfag lol
I was looking through that one LoR review and found out that the guy was probably fired after writing it
>>7380850895 sucks but 7 is kino, stfu.
>>738085486You could cut every character not named Don Quixote or Bari from 7 and it would play out exactly the same.
>>738085449Limbus is at its best when it panders to bookfags (Canto 4 and 6) and I'll die on this hill.
>>738078504>, but she didn't actually deal with him.Well yeah since she's NOT Don Quixoteshe's just Sancho
>>738085582You could cut every character not named Don Quixote or Bari from 7 and it would play out exactly the sameTypical Nobody, betraying Don Quixote like that.
>>738085006Bowing out of lob corp is always understandable if you're struggling in midgame. Take your time with Ruina then, it's a kino game and there's a lot of fun builds and strats to play around with. The "grind" isn't bad, but the no grind mod is a nice quality of life upgrade you can use to make sure you always have cards to play around with
>>738080304Why do you save phonefag thumbnails?
>For Nobody is wise at all times; Nobody is born without faults; Nobody is free from wrongdoing; Nobody lives content with his lot; Nobody is wise in love; Nobody is good; Nobody is truly wise; Nobody is happy in every respect, etc. And therefore Nicholas Nobody, or Monsieur Nobody, shall go free. What power Nobody has, Nobody can tell.-Robert Burton, Anatomy of Melancholy
>>738086046>You could cut every character not named Don Quixote or Bari from 7 and it would play out exactly the sameFuck, forgot the arrow.
The biggest issue I have with Limbus is that Kim Ji Hoon has literally no fucking spine whatsoever, he's so scared of disappointing his fans and losing the company he will keep following the same boring and safe formula until the heat death of the universe. I thought this game was really interesting when I started playing it because everyone in the bus was some degree of asshole, they felt like real people, but as more and more chapters released the closer I got to realizing almost no one in this fucking team deserves the title of Sinner, they're all just a bunch of victims coping with trauma. >Rodya Still a piece of shit, mostly because they refuse to write her>SinclairWriting was so difficult for him they just skipped straight to the end! We've never seen Sinclair becoming with his darker desires (probably a dropped plot point) he's still relying on>BEEP BOOP INACCURATE INTERPRETATION OF SOME AUTISTIC NONSENSE NO ONE CARES ABOUT>SEMANTICAL LIMBOT (You) ACTIVATED>"E-erm you're a stupid doomerfag that doesn't understand character writing because [30-PAGE LONG RETARDED LORE REASON THAT WILL GET RETCONNED WHENEVER THE DIRECTOR FEELS LIKE IT]">RyoshuThe character that would say "Fuck Yeah" to watching hobos stabbing each other turned out to be a poor little girl that got groomed, how fucking boring! Why can't she just be an evil psychopath? >The kidOh yes, the (technically) biological one, another case of no spine from Mr Ji Hoon, he was so afraid the chinks would have a melty over a non-virgin girl and her John Wick+Kill Bill story he avoided it entirely, instead making her adopt a tube baby she has no genuine connection with. I understand that writing complicated and divisive characters are difficult, especially for a game that requires wide appeal for each one of them to sell, but I'd rather see a failed attempt done with unfiltered artistic vision than the same shit for 4 cantos in a row. "An indie team that can't make a gacha" is a pure lie.
>>738087543it's supposed to be shit because the game is a social commentary on why gachas such ass
>>738087543Spiritually raped post
>>738087543ran out of characters Becoming comfortable with his darker desires*he's still relying on outside powers that are just straight up mirror world technology* And no, that's not his power because he didn't truly earn it, it's a full-on asspull that could've happened any time in the story. I've become so disillusioned with the writing of this game I won't even be surprised if Meursault had an abusive mother and a bad childhood or that Outis ends up having no husband nor children and all her war crimes were done by someone else. If none of this ends up happening, cool. Glad it's getting better, I'm not coming back anyway because this game runs like shit, plays like shit and takes forever to get a new chapter. I'm better off just reading the books they're "adapting" from and staring at the really cool fan art.
>>738087841spiritually off-siter post.
>>73808754395% of story complaints fall under two categories:1. speedreading2. My headcannon didn't happen and now I'm madThis post falls under the later.
>>738075405It’s the least predatory Gacha on the market. You can grind every ID and you only need to spend actual lunacy on Walpipi or collabs
>>738087925>I'm better off just reading the books they're "adapting" fromThat's what I did and I'm happier for it. I reconnected with literature after reading practically nothing throughout my uni years, found some new favourite authors. Heavily recommended.
>p*p*G
>>738075078For me its Otis!
>>738087925>or that Outis ends up having no husband nor children and all her war crimes were done by someone else.You are literally, LITERALLY making shit up in your head and then preemptively getting upset that it likely won't happen. Nothing in the story thus far implies she has a child, or a husband. Its all been hints that she has somewhere to return to, has connection to Dias/Udjat, is a smoke war vet, and did some bad shit during the war.
>>738087543>assholes for no reason good>assholes coping badly with their circumstances badI recall this flavor of doomfaggotry from a guy who insisted Don's canto was shit because she was supposed to animorph into Binah, and lo and behold this poster has similarly deranged expectations.
>>738088649Poopdickschizo shit is annoying but I've noticed that as well. Guy who wants edgy characters for the sake of being edgy + getting mad his headcannon didn't happen.
>>738088631Wanting to return home to his wife and son is the core of Odysseus' character.>>738088649That sounds bullshit, no one can be that retarded. Unless you're a /vg/nigger, in which case I can believe that.
>>738088631>Nothing in the story thus far implies she has a child, or a husband.But muh source material... muh book... why aren't they doing the book as literally as possible... the booooook...
>>738088745The poopdickschizo shit didn't come into being out of nowhere, it exists because poopdickschizos exist
>>738075078>is this good writing?No, as is the case with 85% of PM stories>>738075405The revenue is high>whygacha(gambling) and rapid bootlicking fans(addicts)
>>738088786>Unless you're a /vg/nigger, in which case I can believe that.unfortunately the faggot everyone is replying to is a known /vg/ shitposter
>>738088856>the writing is bad, no I will not elaborate
>>738088786>no one can be that retardedHe saw Binah's symbol flash near Don's climactic moment and assumed that meant Don was supposed to start acting like Binah.He thought they had previously fucked up by not making Heathcliff start acting like Hokma too.>Wanting to return home to his wife and son is the core of Odysseus' character.And wanting to return home to her [close figure] but feeling both physically and psychologically removed from them seems to be a core part of Outis's character. It just isn't implied to be a spouse.
>>738087925>>738087925>DoomBITCH arrives>>738088856>SUDDENLY someone starts shitting on PM as a whole
I'll continue to cry and shit and piss myself over the books not being adapted well enough because book adaptations is why I started playing Limbus instead of abandoning it when I heard it was to be a gacha, and I know KJH CAN adapt the books well if he tries (Sinclair, Yi Sang, Heathcliff)
>>738089081The high quality parts of cantos 4 and 6 have FUCK ALL to do with being book adaptations, coping brownoid. There's no way el director has even read Orlando Furioso, it doesn't have a Korean translation and that is the only language he speaks. Any hope you had for "adaptation" quality was misplaced and you will continue to be called a retarded doombitch with shit taste for crying about the lack of it.
>>738089081There exists an alternate reality where limbus copies the books 1:1 and everyone shits on the game for its hack writing by copying actual books.
>>738089246The grass is 100% greener on the other side for those faggots.>Doomfags cry about intervallos being le filler>Point out things like buildup>They disagree (I don't remember the exact nonsensical babbling used) >Arknights collab happens>Previous sentiment disappears into thin air>Doomfags start crying canto 9 was robbed of buildup
>>738089550goomba.png
>>738089230The high part of Canto 6 was Wild Hunt Heathcliff, who comes from a mirror world that makes him a 1:1 copy of bookcliff.>>738089246>1:1 copiesWhat makes you think I want that? Turning Kromer into a girl was a stroke of genius, as if transforms simple bullying to a much more compelling sexually-charged relationship. And it managed to incorporate and transform many of the features of the original book (Sinclair's family, whistling).Compare that to Canto 5, which reads like KJH only watched the movie adaptation. He failed to incorporate great characters like Fedallah, completely changed Stubb's character, and stripped Ahab of any admirable parts.
>>738089679The high part of canto 6 was Heathcliff interacting with Wild Hunt Heathcliff, and the fact that Wild Hunt Heathcliff is a straight villain adds to it. Which as a concept is horrifically off the rails from Wuthering Heights' plot.
>>738075293I've read all 3 side-stories and they kind of all fucking suck. The narrative voice in the 2 text stories is genuinely grating and Wonderlab is just bad. At least Ezra is cute.
>>738089819Heathcliff does turn comically evil in the book after his return. The way he treats Isabella, her dog, his own son - he's practically a villain. He only finds solace at the end of the book.
>>738088745NTA but I really don't think wanting flawed and generally unpleasant characters is edgy, even as someone who still enjoys Limbus. Catherine is a moody bitch and Heathcliff hangs puppies in the book, and they're both infinitely more charming and amusing than in Canto 6. Yoshihide is also far more charming in the book, being a gross obsessed old man with a soft spot for his daughter, which is almost entirely flattened out in Limbus by the time Canto 9 rolled around. I really don't think I have to speak much on Ishmael's book counterpart, it's not even close, especially after they ironed out her neuroticism post Canto 5. KJH IS obsessed with making every character a victim with minute flaws. I think you can see the appeal of flawed characters in practice even with the popularity of all the villains, at least pre Canto 7.
Meursault is the Antichrist
>>738090425Ryoshu isn't yoshihide though? All the characters of C9 are a mix of the characters of Hellscreen. Rien is the most like Yoshihide, the Lord is Hermes, the monkey is Ren, and both Araya/Ryoshu are the daughter.
>>738090858How does this disprove my point? KJH chose to write it this way. He gave Ryoshu the role and depth of the character with less than 30 words of dialogue, and then stripped the only thing relevant about her character to sanitize it for his audience. You've even admitted the interesting role went to the villain, which is something I covered.
>>738091142You're seeing the story through the lens of an adaptation instead of it being its own piece of media. Its fucking with your ability to approach the story in a meaningful capacity because you search for the book connections first and then use how close they are to the source material as a measuring stick. Literally in your own words Ryoshu's entire character is irrelevant because she is based on a minor character from the source material while missing what her role is in the story. That being a victim of parental abuse with the idealistic intention of giving her own daughter a better life than her own.
>>738091573I am not. I draw the comparison because I believe the book counterparts are more interesting. You were the one who stated the characters are "supposed to be" other characters. Isolating Limbus from it's direct inspirations because it is "it's own piece of media" is equally as incorrect as hyperfocusing on book content.Your description of Ryoshu as a victim of parental abuse with an idealistic goal, along with the dampening of her artistic sadism as the story continues, almost perfectly captures what I was talking about. She isn't interestingly flawed anymore. This specifically sabotages the story when it tries to trick you into believing Ryoshu was guilty of what happened to Araya, rather than it being her only option. In her own canto, she is the least interesting character. I also think the depiction of parental abuse in Canto 9 is lackluster and needlessly edgy. I don't really think that's relevant to the talk about protagonists though.
>>738091882>Isolating Limbus from it's direct inspirations because it is "it's own piece of media" is equally as incorrect as hyperfocusing on book content.This is retarded. Limbus is a game, an entirely different medium for storytelling. Its also taking place in an established setting. The degree of connection between the source material increases when it services what PM wants to do with the story. If the source material has something which isn't needed for the Sinner's stories and how it connects to the setting its discarded.>almost perfectly captures what I was talking about. She isn't interestingly flawed anymore.The "interestingly flawed" is most likely something you imagined. What were her supposed flaws which you believe were ruined?>I also think the depiction of parental abuse in Canto 9 is lackluster and needlessly edgy.I disagree, the Nursefathers themselves cover a very wide spectrum of types of abuse/neglect and similarly diverse degree of severity. Callisto is pretty genuine in caring about Ryoshu, he is just too focused on his work to meaningful connect with her. Shinomi is the most literally abusive, but beneath the surface she cares about Ryoshu which we see in the scene where they share cigs. She engages in the most overt abuse because she is trying to keep Ryoshu free of any emotional connection to the HoS, which is when Rien gets a prescript to bring Araya into the picture.
>>738075078Everything about Don just fucking sucks made worse by her actual canto which was ultimately forgettable and her only purpose now is to vaguely make scary eyes whenever someone mentions bloodfiend lore. Climax merchant as the kids say
>>738087543Kim is kind of a huge pussy. I find it funny how he gives this whole speech about how he'll do what HE wants to do and won't ever give in when if that was true he wouldn't pussy out of nerfing Mao Faust if that was his original vision. For the gacha characters at least, I find it weird that Kim-Jihoon has an obsession with making everyone a 30+ year old virgin. What? Is Outis going to start saying how she had a platonic best friend named Penelope? Give me a break. Imagine if Angelica was written like this
>>738092528So you genuinely believe these stories, almost sopping wet like a literal fucking sponge with inspiration, written by a bunch of literature nerds, should in no sense be related to the books they are literally named after? Even outside of Limbus, investigating the context of a piece of work is common practice and almost always allows you to reach deeper understanding of it. Your complete rejection of this is just as retarded as people who believe Limbus should 1-to-1 adapt the stories it's inspired by. It's quite literally another made up, arbitrary rule you've applied because of outrage to an unidentified group of people that make you mad. Ryoshu prior to Canto 9 was a sadist, described as being so volatile there were precautions in play to handle her if things went awry. Jia Qiu mentions she wishes to walk the "Path of the Asura", trying to achieve power at any means necessary. Her sadism is dampened throughout the story, her instability almost never inconveniences anyone until she realises what happened to Araya (which is completely out of her hands, sanding off this flaw even more), and the Asura angle is spun into the intention of the House of Spiders. You brought up the characterisation of the Nursefathers, which is unfortunately flat. "Abusive, but actually loves them" parental figure is something we've seen played out multiple times in the franchise. Their methods of abuse are also incredibly dull and uninspired, making it difficult to empathise with Ryoshu. Even the cycle of abuse/neglect from the abused/neglected is a concept we've seen explored THOUSANDS of times in this franchise.
>>7380854865 and 7 are the same garbage structure of forgettable side characters only barely 'saved' into being a 6.5/10 by their main antagonists but even then the canto is shit. Nobody remembers shit about the Bloodfiend Trio just like they don't remember shit about the Pequod crew. They were both awfully handled but morons gave it a free pass because it had a Mili clash climax they liked with the antagonist.
>>738077392You don't want to make that argument when the structure of Limbus forces us to witness Rodya having the fat fuck gimmick for multiple updates in a row
>>738093083>Even the cycle of abuse/neglect from the abused/neglected is a concept we've seen explored THOUSANDS of times in this franchiseAlmost like it's an integral part of the entire setting.
>>738093716And that's fine. But if that's the only thing KJH has to tell, despite reaching a conclusion, despite the fact he's expanding one of the biggest phenomena built around that cycle to actually be a tool of a God, it's boring. He can expand his setting. Stop treating him like a toddler.
>>738093083>Ryoshu prior to Canto 9 was a sadist, described as being so volatile there were precautions in play to handle her if things went awry.The sadism bit is a misinterpretation of her being raised by Callisto's Corpism art style. The sadism is merely the means to the end of creating art. The volatility and caution in handling her are because she has her sword which can perma wipe the sinners if she believes Limbus is backing off their promise to her. In Canto 9 she breaks the contract with it when she believes there is nothing left to gain and that Araya was lost, which is exactly what her sinner profile was implying at the start of the game.>Jia Qiu mentions she wishes to walk the "Path of the Asura", trying to achieve power at any means necessary.He says that in the context of her willingness to engage in self destructive behavior as a means to an end. >You brought up the characterisation of the Nursefathers, which is unfortunately flat. "Abusive, but actually loves them" parental figure is something we've seen played out multiple times in the franchise.This is incorrect however? The love for Ryoshu is purely transactional, sure they outwardly project as caring figures but they are all in it for themselves. Mathias was considered the most benevolent of them at first by anons until we got to see that under the surface he is a selfish bastard who is merely playing a role. Meanwhile we have Valencina who is the most openly neglectful and abusive and maintains that all the way through to her death.
The villains of each canto have the most book connections because they DIE. The sinners have fewer connections because they still get to remain as active characters in the story that need to be their own thing. The books are also attempting something totally different from the story of Limbus, Heath isn't a malicious bastard like WH Heath because Emily Bronte wrote her Heathcliff as a mockery of the dark and brooding bad boys from novels of the time.
>>738093828>despite reaching a conclusionWhen? Even in Ruina's post credits scene Angela still wants to take revenge by finding out "why such pain is perpetuated"
>>738094818>post credits scene*post Head reception scene.
>>738094290>The sadism bit is a misinterpretation of her being raised by Callisto's Corpism art styleShe explicitly enjoys battle. Pulling artistic merit from pain and suffering is a form of sadism, no matter the context as well. But then it was recontextualized, and made into a non-flaw. Her volatility being tied to the sword is true, but she is also prone to violence, and as you said prone to self destructive behaviours. Even with this interpretation of the Path of the Asura statement, it's almost always Ryoshu's only option. She's forced into a corner at almost every turn. >This is incorrect however?For the two other Nursefathers, yes, who I didn't think I needed to elaborate on. Matthias is a neglectful parent, playing a role, yes, but this is not complex, interesting nor a unique character of abuse. An abuser played straight through Valencina in such boring company does not offer enough interesting contrast. >>738094818Just because characters do not come to the conclusion explicitly does not mean it is not plainly stated in the text that seeking revenge is bad, and that the categorical imperative to be good and to fight for what you believe is right is the only way to prevent pain in the city. Angela arguably comes to this conclusion anyhow, the buzzword "revenge" does not hinder that.
>>738095005>the buzzword "revenge" does not hinder thatThat's not what I meant, my bad honestly, I thought she literally said she'll take revenge by combating the cycle.My point was that Ruina ends with Angela saying the cycle still exists and Roland says "it's as natural as water flowing".
Ah, is it "misinterpreting Jia Qui's dialogue about asura" hours?
>>738095349Well yes, the city still exists. I don't think this cycle still existing and perpetuating means we don't have a conclusion to the question. I'd like to see KJH explore other messages and notions about the city, perhaps the ones set up in the Birds' story for example, rather than mulling over and dragging our feet through "the cycle, bro" until we finally fight the head or whatever.
I loev Laetitia
>>738095005>But then it was recontextualized, and made into a non-flaw.Nigga she still kills people. It wasn't re-contextualized at all. Her killing of Rufo was done in way to show off her own personal art form.>She's forced into a corner at almost every turn.She was out of the HoS. Sure they had plans to bring her back but she very well could have abandoned it entirely and fucked off to some corner of the city where she wouldn't be found. She walks the Path of Asura because her entire perspective on motherhood was being the opposite of the Nursefathers; having Araya live a life she never got to live where she can go or do whatever she wants. >Matthias is a neglectful parent, playing a role, yes, but this is not complex, interesting nor a unique character of abuseBecause you are ignoring the nuance of how its conveyed to the reader. Anons called him best dad for the majority of Canto 9 and into the subsequent intervallo. You only see how much of a bastard he is with the full picture and emphasized by how he duped Kira so thoroughly. >An abuser played straight through Valencina in such boring company does not offer enough interesting contrast.Because the Nursefathers don't exist in a vacuum. Valencina is the most played straight of the NFs to expand the spectrum and types of neglect/abuse but also to shine a light on the flaws of the fingers. She is representative of the Thumb acting like nobles with a code of conduct while in truth being thugs who fuck each other over petty bullshit. Its also why Mathias is the most surface level good of the 5 before you realize the self righteousness is a cover for his narcissistic tenancies, exactly like the modus operandi of the middle.
>>738077570This. I can buy the season pass every 6 months with my Google play survey money. Hell that even entirely covered the arknight crossover for the donkey VA.
nothing has been recontextualized; the mere act of being in limbus company is a testament to them still being sinners/prisoners and further feeding into the city's bullshit. Think about all the fucking antagonists portraid in the game. All of them have been "redeemed" in the sense that they are doing what they believe is right.
>>738095873>she still kills peopleIn a way that does not harm or hinder her in any way. She just gets to play with guts, and it doesn't cause anyone issue almost ever. Also by definition it was recontextualized. >she could've just let her kid die broOkay man. Maybe she should've. Maybe we'd get a new angle to explore. >because the Nursefathers don't exist in a vaccuumWhich is why I said "with boring company". She could work in a more interesting company as a foil. I think the argument that her abusing the hierarchy over a child she has is sound, but it's really not as revolutionary as you're wording it.>Because you are ignoring the nuanceHow is deliberately stating his character, neglectful and using children as a tool, in any way ignoring that or reductive? All the Nursefathers you've stated are just reiterations of what we already know packaged into boring parental figures. Why are you bringing up anons who believe Matthias is a hero that I have no kinship with? These shitposters and bookfags have been infesting your brain like mold this entire discussion. >>738096180Objectively Ryoshu's sadism has been recontextualized by the very definition of the word. Your statement has almost nothing to do with the current conversation because "recontextualized" was not used in the context you are rebuking it in.
>>738096327>In a way that does not harm or hinder her in any way. She just gets to play with guts, and it doesn't cause anyone issue almost everOf course, like in the early cantos where it caused her huge issues. Like how she was inconsolably crying after she gave the lectures on how to be a sadist to those guys in the casino. The whole limbus team was also grossed out by it too. Completely destroyed the team dynamic forming in canto 2
Fuck are we even talking about?
>>738096471nigga mad his headcanon isn't real
>>738096471Bookbrown niggerbabble like usual
>>738096471No idea.
>>738096471A faggot is screeching that his headcanon isn't real and trying to claim it should be, with their reasoning being a heady combination of "but da books" and "but muh tone".
>>738096434This is whataboutism. I haven't spoken on my issues with prior Canto's writing, neither have I spoken about what I think about how the story handles characters who are not in focus. I expected the flaw to be explored more and given focus, as I was giving grace to a work I enjoy. >>738096471I'm unsatisfied with how characters flaws are resolved, explored or discarded. I brought up the books as a comparison example to how minute or major flaws can make a character compelling to read initially and haven't really mentioned them since. It's boogeyman schizophrenia.
>>738096695>whataboutismthat's a copout. I'm explicitly showing you that ryoshu's idiosyncrasies were never an issue since as early as release. The 'recontextualizing' never happened.
>>738096695Your dissatisfaction has been proven to have nonsensical, inconsistent reasoning many times within this thread alone.
>>738096695You type a lot but can't convey anything meaningful because your interpretation of the story is totally different from everyone else. I genuinely think its autism because I'm having trouble trying to understand your point of view.
>I saw the wuthering heights movie and unironically thought ''Limbus did this better'' the other day. Immediately cringed realising I've become a PM fanboySometimes it's better for Limbus not to try. It's sad for people to like the fanfiction more than the original work it's referencing
>>738075078a woman's natural state is being a retarded prostitute
>>738096857He thinks character traits are prescriptive and is upset that the characters are "disobeying" the traits he thought he saw in them.
>>738096862>man this thing I like did [thing] well>wait fuck I can't think that because... because I just can't!Beta bitch behavior
>>738096776She is almost explicitly a sadist. This being explained through her upbringing is a recontextualization by definition. The initial claim was "the sadism bit was a misinterpretation", not mine.>>738096857The whole team is set up as a group of tards so dysfunctional that they need a color fixer tard wrangler and a revival mechanic. These people have huge issues. I literally just think these small idiosyncracies and massive character flaws being sanded off over time is more boring to read and the conversation steered off into talking about Canto 9. It's not that complex, man.
>>738096862the movie isn't the original though. don't think it's very faithful either
>>738097014The team is set up as a team first and foremost, if the story was endless noodling about how they're at each others' throats like you seem to want then we'd have made no progress past canto 2 or 3.
>>738097014>The whole team is set up as a group of tards so dysfunctional that they need a color fixer tard wrangler and a revival mechanic. These people have huge issues. I literally just think these small idiosyncracies and massive character flaws being sanded off over time is more boring to read and the conversation steered off into talking about Canto 9. It's not that complex, man.Iirc Limbus has canonically been a team for 1-2 years, no shit they are going to get along better now than before. Especially when their lives are laid bare to one another as their contracts get fulfilled.
canto 9 doesn't suck for any of these reasons it just sucks because it's a woman canto. that's it. everything in ruina to do with angela also sucked because it was basically a woman canto.
>>738097202Retard>spoilerDouble retard
>>738097014>She is almost explicitly a sadist. This being explained through her upbringing is a recontextualization by definitionMy honest to Ayin MFW when we get to a characters canto and get context as to why they're the way they are.
>>738097240>he thinks canto 2 is goodtriple retard
>>738097158>>738097184You don't need to be at eachother's throats to have your flaws or idiosyncracies influence your speech or behaviour. It's impossible to convey this without examples. Just read the first chapter of Moby Dick and you'll literally see how Ishmael's passive neuroticism and self righteousness shines through the text. I'm not saying Ishmael should be exactly like this, I understand it's an adaptation, but her character writing flatlines after Canto V because they sand off these similar idiosyncracies. She's so boring to read they don't even use her anymore. >>738097259Did you ignore the part where somebody said "sadism was a misinterpretation"? I was saying it was just recontextualization, and that the sadism was still present.
>>738097259People sperging out about how PM shouldn't have given an answer to some question at all because they don't like the one they got have been a plague on this franchise since Lobcorp.
>>73808817395% of story defenders falls under two categories 1. blindless shilling "Leave if you hate it so much, poopdickschizo. Stop dooming" 2. 30 page long autistic lore reasoning (midwit form of blindless shilling)this post falls under the former.>>738088649I'm not your white whale, last time I was on /vg/ regularly was during the Lei Heng sprite spam, I would visit it every few months and you guys were always talking about your weird fetishes kek. And that's not what I said, I want characters with genuine flaws that challenge me as a readerdiscuss about, not some pity magnet that makes me clap like a seal when they go >life is worth living now yaythis game has an age rating of 18, I'm not asking for some rape story, I know that flawed characters can easily get into edgy territory but edgy is still a better direction than pure smoothed edges, plus this game is edgy as fuck already. >>738088807What's the point of using their names and referencing them constantly if you're not even going to follow nor play with the basic principles? First of all, they've gotten it right for some characters, Yi Sang for example, his depression, the lethargy, suicidal ideation, poetry etc are all there, so there's clearly some bias afoot. Second of all, admitting it's just for marketing would not only be an insult to the work but also PM, who has shown themselves to be quite the fans of classic literature. Criticizing them for failing to get something so simple isn't asking for a 1to1 translation, it's asking: Why then? >>738089230Final stage of blindness shilling: memory holing the things that makes the character's personal drama, which came straight out of the book, or popular scenes where characters would quote word for word sentences from the source material. Yet no one called you a speedreader, ain't that funny? This used to be the only place a sane person would talk about these games yet now it's just another circlejerk like the cordpedos and xiggertrannies.
>>738097340>You don't need to be at eachother's throats to have your flaws or idiosyncracies influence your speech or behaviour.Right in Nocturnal Sweeping we see Outis have to cut Ishmael off from rambling about how nobody reads the fucking pamphlets, so she can get her pamphlet. I know she's boring now, I agree even, I don't think this is because they SANDED OFF HER CHARACTER, I think it's because she's a less extreme personality now that her biggest problem has been faced. Her personality is still present. You want it to be intensified. I am willing to wait for them to figure out what to use her for.
>>738097510>You want it to be intensified. I am willing to wait for them to figure out what to use her for.Ish just needs a proper foil to play off of. Her character isn't boring they just haven't given her a new spotlight. We saw a similar thing with Rodion given her weak canto and as she got more spotlights during intervallos she became much more interesting/fun.
>7484>I was on /vg/ regularlyDo you SEE?
>>738097510That's a fair way to word it. I'm not going to kill myself over the phrasing of "sanding off". I just think these traits are almost unpresent, and it's getting worse as time passes, and I see it almost every canto now. The Outis interaction is a good example of this trait, but again it's a year and two Canto's old now, and I again think this is getting worse over time.
>>738097484>last time I was on /vg/ regularlyI haven't been on /vg/. I ran into this guy on /v/. Sorry retard.>I want characters with genuine flaws that challenge me as a readerdiscussWe have characters with genuine flaws, those flaws just have actual reasons to them. What you want are characters that are assholes to each other with no incident or event in their life that justifies why they think in a way that makes them act out. It's either that or you're fine with everyone having "trauma".>What's the point of using their names and referencing them constantly if you're not even going to follow nor play with the basic principles?They do! They follow and play with the basic principles of every book they use. All of the characters are not equally adherent to the book, but none have nothing to do with it.>Criticizing them for failing to get something so simpleThey haven't failed, which is why you're being told your criticism is bullshit.>memory holing the things that makes the character's personal drama, which came straight out of the bookEither a character's trauma matters or it doesn't, pick your lane.
>>738097732I think these traits have been getting less present because they aren't the "base state" of Ishmael and will re-emerge with more force whenever she starts to feel significant personal pressure again. We see the "haunted" expression come back out when she gets ready to fight Ricardo again. She hasn't been under personal pressure lately because we're miles from the Lake and nobody has told her Ahab lived yet.
>>738098018I just think the way they write these characters is TOO removed from these traits. It ends up with each character coming off as flat. I obviously agree they will worsen once pressure appears, but to what end? So I can experience some marginally more entertaining dialogue before the character is shunted into being the straightman for another 3 cantos? I think these traits could be more present without it squandering their development, and I'd dare say the lack of them in some cases makes each sinner's canto seem like a panacea that cheapens the development for me.
>>738098295Ultimately I think the entertainment value generated from watching the sinners and their dynamic transform over time is worth more than the entertainment value that comes from them being more interesting in a given scene. I believe that the behavior you want to see from the sinners would be negative enough to undermine the progress they've made, so it kind of is one or the other. I understand the complaint that sinners can be a little flat after their canto, but I think it is directly better than the alternative, which believe me I am fully considering.
>>738098295I think you are allowing shitposts flanderizing a sinner to affect your perception of them. Limbus also has a big cast of 13 main characters, some characters have to be on the backburner as not to interrupt the current story. People will shitpost about how a sinner vanishes during a canto because they don't get an arbitrary amount of screentime but such is the flaw of a large cast. Ishmael herself is one of the most boring and quenched compared to her character prior to C5. But she is also being slowly setup as a 2nd in command for Dante with Outis commenting that she is very fit to leading while Dante is away (I can't remember where but I do remember this being said). Ishmael has also had multiple moments of caring about the team like during C9 when she says she is trying to help alleviate Dante's burden in whatever ways she can.If I would have to guess she is being set up to mirror Ahab when she pops up. With her way of leading/supporting the sinners being a direct contrast to Ahab's new N corp crew.
>>738098535I think the transformation over time of these dynamics is further hindered by this, though. Isn't a team working together more interesting and fun to read when their issues or idiosyncracies complement and clash, rather than them all understanding and pursuing a common goal almost robotically? I could argue that I should've felt this pay-off during Spider Pyre. >>738098696This is all fine, again I don't think these traits contradict this development you forsee though. I don't think I've fallen for flanderization, because these little quirks are getting so few and far between that I often feel a sense of "Oh yeah, they're 'this' character" when they emerge again.
>>738098931>Isn't a team working together more interesting and fun to read when their issues or idiosyncracies complement and clashWhen the focus is on how the team is working together, sure, I expect the sinners' problems to rub up against one another. When the focus is on dealing with some other party or external problem, not really. I don't need to be explicitly reminded of every true fact every time it could possibly become relevant and I don't need every character to do their "thing" every episode. The focus of Spider Pyre was the threats we were dealing with, not the sinners.
>>738092974What's funnier is that him being a pussy is just a plain fact, he literally removed the final boss rush from ruina and the post-credits scene because chinks complained. It's only HIS VISION when other people like it, even the messages he puts on his games are stuff religions have been doing for thousands of years as well, he can only reinforce the ideas every human being on earth has. I don't understand why fans get mad over you pointing this out either, you're reading about a world that has "EVERY POOR PERSON EVER IS A SUBHUMAN THAT NEEDS TO DIE." as it's tagline, with violent crime and cannibals being easier to encounter than a sunny day, yet you draw the line at ONE seemingly good guy that genuinely believing killing people is a good thing? That's the edgiest doomer shit for you?I'm a hope guy myself don't get me wrong, but those messages only hit me hard when it actually feels like it's gone, "An invincible summer within me" type of stuff, limbus just devolved into this monster-of-th-week cartoon where we all hold hands at the end, even when it's supposed to be bleak it's not actually that bleak, for example C6, we lost that shit hard yet >Heathcliff still went through his development, is part of the limbfamily>He still remembers Catherine, meaning he still has something to look forward toC3:>Sinclair completely failed at stopping kormer>he literally has nothing to look forward to, even Demian won't talk to himthe incessant ass pulls as well, holy shit they get worse and worse with each canto. Red Mist powered by 15 Demians and 26 Angelas forma SuperEGO, Forma 800 Shin could show up in front of the sinners right now and I'd have 0 doubts in my mind because Dante would use his clock powers to bring the spirit of Color Fixer Copper Royalty Gilgamesh, order him to dropkick the red head bitch and run away.
>>738099164>he literally removed the final boss rush from ruinaFull ensemble lock was cancer and only posers larping as hardcore gamers liked it.
>>738099160If there's anything else I have to say I just think character traits being consistent and synergistic, when well written, isn't going to evoke a "Oh, they're doing their thing" response. I don't inherently hate anything you're saying here. I think my issues are probably exascerbated here because I didn't like Canto 9 either.
>>738099356I think the character traits we have now and those we're likely to get over time are already developing into an interesting synergy. I think the idea of worrying about characters being sidelined for a while by... not causing problems with their major personality traits... reeks of the type of writing where everyone DOES have to do their "thing" every episode. It feels like the complaints you raise would be settled by having a quota of character appearances per canto and I think that's kinda silly as a concept.
>>738099830I think my statements here are being amplified by the previous discussion on explicitly severe flaws. I think flaws are emergent from these quirks or vice versa. It feels like both are erased once we've gone through a canto. I agree Ishmael sperging about her blind obsession or whatever every canto would be corny. While a quota is a pretty silly idea, I don't think seeing these things emerge more often would lose us much. I think most canto's pacings allow for it considering how slow or inconsequential the first part can be.
>>738099271Doesn't matter, it was his vision.
Reminder this psycho bitch help Ayin start a war and is now trying to recreate his seed of light
>>738100870I'd give her my seed of white if you know what I'm sayin.
>>738075078The point is that in a world as bleak as the one depicted in The city, to hold onto cheerfulness, onto that happy disregard of tight cultural norms, in essence, to follow the impossible dream. Is an act of pure rebellion against the system, and sancho has decided to mantle that rebellion unto herself.
>>738100870Good, Outis is in need of a proper plapping.
>>738101442First of all that's Dias, second of all Ayin doesn't have enough equipment to plap Outis
>>738075078If I had a nickel for every time a gacha game made Sancho Panza from Don Quixote a cute girl I’d have two nickels, which is weird that it’s happened that many times.
>that moment where the 'Don' comes back to her name in the UII'm afraid it's peak, Executive Manager
>>738099164>Red Mist powered by 15 Demians and 26 Angelas forma SuperEGO, Forma 800 Shin could show up in front of the sinners right now and I'd have 0 doubts in my mind because Dante would use his clock powers to bring the spirit of Color Fixer Copper Royalty Gilgamesh, order him to dropkick the red head bitch and run away.Oh wow the protagonist survives somehow who could've seen this coming. And bluds acting like Lobcorp didn't have nigh infinite canon retries and Ruina didn't outright say guests are fucked the moment the invitation targets them.
>>738102586loland held off an arbiter and claw for like 10 minutes
>weakest sinner
>>738088961>>738089076>rapid bootlicking fans(addicts)Case in point,>schizophreniaPut limbus in the title if you don't want discussion so it gets filtered nigger, the thread was at the top of the catalog so i responded to OP
>>738103169>necrobumping with baityou aren't slick
>>738101828She was there, she'll be there again and AyGODS will move in.
I'm so fuarking proud of my new buzzword.
>>738103285Your God does nothing but let his ex-wife fuck mentally ill people
>>738103435If they aren't strong enough fight back and awaken EGO, fuck em, they wouldn't mean much for the city anyways.
>is no longer a shit id because of ricardocliff
>>738103580She was bound to become a non-shit ID the moment we had a comprehensible Middle team. The fact that the Middle also has tons of faction boosts is just a cherry on top.
>>738088961I'm mixed on the writing. I enjoyed certain characters but the writers simply cater too much to anime slop imbibers to take seriously. they also adapt way too many literary characters just for what appears to be clout
>>738103580is middle sinclair good now too?
>>738104562He's the third (soon to be fourth) best unit on the team.
>>738104562All of the middle ids are good now even middlesault. Envy maxxing isn't a meme anymore.
>>738103113it's kinda funny to think about the fact that all the sinners are linked and can only be as strong as the weakest sinner, yi sang. and now they're saying we're at a level where we could kick ricardo's ass. yi sang, more like yi swole
>>738075405Because normies, fags, trannies and robluxxxkiddies dont spend and limbus is your bonafide goto asex, puriteen gachaschlorpa that at the end of the day is actually rather worthless or as they like to call it priceless>i-its generous!Nah, just cheap as slop should be
Canto 9s only problem is Sinclair and the toll his shipping takes on Yoshi.Her scenes? Actually Sinclair's. Lines? Sinclair again. Her cast of characters ? Fully revolves around him. She (and i guess Dante too) did something impactfull and important? Better pay all attention in the world to some certain sinner. But hey, "chemistry and such" i guess. Rather fitting, i realized recently that their bit makes Shitclair a resident ingame troonlator.Btw i didn't actually play 9.
>>738087925While i largely agree with you on that pms writing is all over the place and is falling completely on its own without as much as push or pull frim aside i dont belive that whoring and using the girls up will give it much benefit. Sinthetic and/or artificial humans play rather large role in story, setting and lore, Angela is some kind android gestalt, Dante is Ayin's clone that got pass due to tt shenanigans or actual homunculus if kjh knows his shit, which he probably doesnt but still. This out to age horribly bad, at least in surface level, but Outis themes probably wont have anything to do with family, children and romantic involvements with sidedudes
>>738075293>>738089843were can I even read them?I've been trying to read Leviathan and everybody fucking redirects me to a korean site with logins
>>738075293Played LobCorp, played Ruina, read Wonderlab, read LeviathanI desperately wanted Limbus to be a more refined version of RuinaInstead I got a simplified gacha game
>>738097484>last time I was on /vg/ regularlyFuck off to /vg/ niggerfaggot
>>738108347>simplified gachaAnd it sucks too, even aming its own. Daphne Wizardry is basically everything limbus was supposed to beJust how do you mess absolutely everything up like this? At this point i believe >>738087758 that its shit on purpose, a subversive jab at genre
>>738081621Sooo what you are saying... Is that none if key, crucial and thematic things like mirrors, pulls, boughs, egos, lights, aspects, sefiras and resurrections have anything to do with Dante and that litteraly everyone else and their fucking grandpa has more to do with those then he does? Yeah, i belive that too. Sasuga director!
>>738108347All they had to do was expand on what they developed for Ruina. The system was incredibly good. Throw some more archetypes in there, throw in some more support for existing archetypes. It was an elegant design with near infinite design space and scalability, and they were creative enough to get as much as they needed out of it. It was perfectly suited for episodic releases, exactly like they wanted to do.But no, let's piss it all away on a fucking gacha game. Let's actually just straight up take the fantastic system we designed, jam an icepick into its frontal cortex, and then parade the brain damaged shadow of what it once was around.I will never not be mad.
keypages? suck my cockpassives? here's a useless support passive if you uptiecards? take what i givesex designs? hehe, now i have you...
>>738109080>expand on what they developed for RuinaJust no, they already gone completely astray by then. You know its bad, really, really bad when the game treats main antagonist along with bunch of some random unrelated childmurdering cannibals better then it treats previous protagonist. And dont you start with "... faggotry" shit, Ayin is a crucial key character of the series, founding architect that started it all. If he gets absolutely no respect, grace or integrity then what does?
>>738109421>If he gets absolutely no respect, grace or integrity then what does?Nothing and nobody, as it should be. Because worrying about "respecting" fictional fucking characters is schizophrenic, especially given the type to actually think Ayin was "disrespected" think that because the games didn't suck his dick endlessly.
>>738075078I see the good ol "PM fan can't read for jackshit" Mantra is still being alive and well on /v/ for all these years takes me back to Runia Update days
who's the sexiest pm girl?
>>738109421NTA, I do agree with you, but Angela after shitting on him the whole game, conceded and agreed with his line of thinking. To the point of releasing what she fought for because she understood why he did what he did. I think that puts a ton of respect on him because she was the one who fucked him over in the first place.
>>738109496But its alright when game sucks Rolangella's cock then? Alright then, i heard you.
>>738109579Oh she conceded, alright. To Roland that is, at first notice. Very nych opposed to how it went with Ayin
>>738109421>Ayin is a crucial key character of the seriesOne of many, let's not act like Ayin was the only one in this department especially now>>738109583Runia didn't you fucking moron they were constantly getting shit on by multiple people left and right and still had to sacrifice/ accept the some hard truths they didn't want to admit
>>738109496Also ain't it the point that Angela and also roland bia association was purposely disrespectful towards Ayin? But noone else besides them. Like malkuth, tiph understands where Angela is coming from but doesn't agree with her, hokma defends A, and finally Binah points out that Angela and Roland are both stupider and worse than Ayin because he atleast was smart enough to know he was in the wrong unlike them
>>738109421I'm talking about gameplay nigger shut the fuck upI think the Limbus Company writing is fine, I just hate the fucking gameplay
>>738109496Enjoy your inane, gibbering, drooling ooc
>>738109664Eh. I don't read it as Cuckland getting Angela pussy. Maybe you let the faggot shippers get to your head which is understandable.
>>738109664>Oh she conceded, alright. To Roland that isRoland was pretty irrelevant in final realization, i would say her opposition towards carmen to be more important
>>738109496>>If he gets absolutely no respect, grace or integrity then what does?>Nothing and nobodyBased Outis enjoyer. And NT is one of my favourite abnos.
>>738109719I'll enjoy my correct and canon writing while you continue having your tantrum about how they were mean to you- oops, Ayin- and that means they need to apologize.
>>738109583Literally did not play the award:The Post
>>738109723You can read it however you please, she still immediately abandoned her lifelong goal of revenge just for his sake alone.
>>738109583Most of the characters with a functioning brain in the story point out their flaws, like Binah outright called them retarded and immature compare to her and Ayin
>>738109705the gameplay is exactly the same, at least in battles that matterespecially now that clashable guards and counters became the norm
>>738109868No need to muddy the discussion by accusing someone of inserting into Ayin, it's the most natural thing one would do after lugging through 50 days.>>738109917She cucked her goal after Ayin finally gave her the equivalent of a headpat. Roland was merely there to hold off the Ensemble from raping her.
>most ESL posters in the whole thread crawl out of the woodwork to seethe about Ayin being disrespectedI'm noticing
I self-insert as Hokma
>>738109917>just for his sake alone.Is this what them kids called larp? Or is this more akin to shipperfags retardation?
>>738109970You're allowed to self insert into Ayin, but the moment it affects your ability to clearly judge the games, I will call you a retard for it. Your own ego should not be attached to a fictional character's reputation.
>>738109920Fuark, she really is best girl. That's why I love Outis too, she has the balls on her to call out other sinners on their bullshit.
>>738110053I understand but you're clearly fishing for one-off insults rather than educating people, I'd say you're like Carmen.
>>738109921Yeah except with all the depth and deckbuilding surgically removed with a chainsaw
>>738110098Carmen was an idealist and a visionary, and I will NOT tolerate any insults towards her ITT.
>>738109992I want to point out that the game suck off Ayin's dick more than they did with Angela, most of the other Anon is considering as bootlicking is literally just the characters feeling bad towards her suffering, other than that most guest talks shit towards her and roland. Ayin literally has a church in hokma's floor and binah when she isn't talking about black tea and philosophical bullshit, whould praise herself and Ayin together in the same sentence
>>738110098We do not speak ill of Carmen here
>>738110098You think the browns who are STILL seething about Ayin's good name being besmirched (translation: seeing the perspective of characters that don't like him, even if they come around) are able to learn? You're a more generous person than me, that's for sure.
>>738109421Oh christ its this stupid faggot again
>>738110170Yeah that's the thing, the people who claim the game was some kind of batshit Ayin humiliation ritual are clearly incapable of handling even one character disagreeing with their favorite without being immediately killed or otherwise shown to be wrong for questioning him. Because most of the characters, especially the ones you see in a more positive light, either prove his point or actively like and defend him.
>>738110220It's a person I see seething while misguided. Attributing it to being brown, again, serves nothing. And really lends to people distorting and going wild. I feel you're really attached to Carmen, (ignoring her own wrongdoings then and now).
The fights in Canto 9 were mediocre winrate slop barring King Gregor, in spite of the gay retry system they added. Whoever's in charge of the gameplay should have been fired for Matthias 2 alone. Biggest waste of fights for an insanely solid antagonist lineup.
Unlike you self-inserting faggots, i want to fuck Ayin instead
Limbus's writing is good honestly the hate it gets really just feels like people who are still Assmad over 100 LC ending or Runia especially when it not hard to understand it really
>>738110341Newsflash buddy, you're not a special snowflake. See >>738109997
>>738110110deckbuilding and passive attribution actually limited the endgame a lotAre you making a charge character or a smoke one or using a gimmick bruiser? just use the same preset for everybodychoosing a damage type is something you can also do in Limbus, the only real difference is you could make your characters use cards different from those of your page's faction but every faction has the same utility cards: 0 cost, light restoring, counter, card drawing etc
>>738110343Mostly this. Some Limbus seethe is new and unique to Limbus but a lot of it is carryover from Ruina seethe.
>>738110395Here's the difference bud, when i do it's not gay
>>738075078I have a friend who's absolutely obsessed with this character after taking meds
>>738110472>w*manEven worse
>>738110472L O N D O N
>>738110431the light system should have never been abandoned and i will stand by this even if it leads to you needing draw and light cards. ids are in the most miserable state and some of them are just completely useless even if you build a team for them.
I actually like Limbus' gameplay when its allowed to be good, specifically bossfights.
>>738110454And if anything I'm indifferent on Limbus's gameplay but I'm not going to lie that Visually and Sound wise it's way better in that regard
>>738110572I would kill for a Ruina remaster with limbus' animations and sounds.
>>738110535I like MDs. Assembling a team optimized to abuse gifts and then assembling the gifts they want to abuse is fun and has more variety than just trying to make a team work in a story boss.
>>738110454I agree but the Carmen bit did got old fast after the shock wore off
>>738110632
>>738109970She already decided to call everything iff after Roland gave her the talking, Ayin came around only after matter of fact. Falling for Roland is the sole reason she even gets to fight Carmen in the first place
>>738110632Tbh lor still holds up today, Lobcorp needs the remaster more cause lookin at the old abno design really made me realize how fucking stupid they look with their no shading and bright colored pallet junk
>>738109723Did i? Or maybe its pm the ines who did when they officially portrayed the two as married couple?
>>738110787A lobcorp remaster would be cool but I would prefer a straight up remake. Also they lost the source code iirc.
>>738110809Proof? I wanna see whatever schizo shit you claim is actually symbolically Angela and Roland being married.
>trolling by pretending to be a shipfaggotIshyddt
>>738110809You kids got no female friends and it shows
>>738110715>>738110809Don't you get the choice before she's about to go into it, locking you into whatever ending? I haven't played it for a few months. Most of what pushed her towards accepting it was being mindraped by Hokma and Binah rather than Roland being a good goy. I really do understand what you mean by the ending frame. YOU are free to say they aren't a couple, because aside from shippers, nothing confirms them being together. Again, I will reiterate that I do understand where you're coming from and consuming fanart really pushes your mind towards it. Just imagine yourself being a librarian who gets to coat her stockings in semen, cuck Roland even if PM comes out and states: "UM THEY'RE A COUPLE OKAY???".
>>738109672>>738109920>>738110170>>738110315And yet the game, the writing and the setting still positions, portrays and frames all those defending naysayers as opposing obstacles to be overcome, supressed and stomped out.Intrasteng.
>>738111058Also didn't lol& literally got friendzone? I remember alot of anons shitting on shipfags when that came out
>>738111145Or the obvious fact that he's a faithful man no less
>>738110868Cassie is married to Yamato. Yeah, thats it, i will not elaborate further. Take it, leave, love it, hate it, regardless of what you do it will still remain true.
>>738111184A character being a faithful loving husband won't be enough to stop those delusional fags
Stop biting the most obvious bait imaginable
>>738111296True I keep forgetting the mental gymnastics people have to do to push an obvious wrong and false thing
>>738111241yaGAYto, shiiiiiieeeeett
If we're already doing this, i want to point out that there was no bit or implications in ruina or lobcorp where Angela even considered Ayin as her father
>>738111382what did she even see this guy as? this is an earnest question. im thinking a fat good lay she never got to have.
>>738075078>Japanese game>Good writing Ayy lmao
>>738111460Apologise to Nigger Spirits 2 RIGHT NOW
>>738079960>never hurt yoshihide physically except maybe offscreen sparring>never hurt yoshihide emotionally except early on via his art>wanted to better her education>outraged for yoshihide's sake after Matthias fucks it all up>acknowledges he's washed up>points out how bad the rest of the Ring are in their snobbishness>asks his enemies for their opinions on his art>takes opinions gracefully no matter how negative>simply enjoys making his artHe's just a nice character compared to every other nursefather. I like how it's pointed out that the raw functionality of his art is a lot like workshop weaponry, which the Ring looks down on. Art for more than art's sake, where the art is also designed for use by others. No wonder the Ring hated him
>>738111420>im thinking a fat good lay she never got to have.Not far off, alot of Angela's dialogue towards Ayin is her wanting to experience the love Ayin showed carmen, and for Ayin to show her the same kind of love
>>738111382Angela is Ayin's daughterwife. Freud is cumming in his grave at the concept.
>>738111594that brain scan must have fucked her up. imagine a woman looking like your daughter but she has an entire brain structure that is geared towards wanting to fuck you.
>>738111702>Lisa* is Ayin's daughterwifeFtfy
>>738111058(you) are obviously the one taking action during the choice sequence , which is crazy thing that theyd do this after spending the entire gane beating the deuteroganist pov over everyines heads, but as i said above Angela only decides to finally into light after supressing Roland and having a chat and Ayin comes in after she deals with Carmen basically whichbmeans that she drops absolutely absolutely everything, the humanity, the freedom and revenge just because some 9 grader schmuch got his sphaghet upsetHockmas or any other realization has no results or consequences due to pm shit writing
>>738111712Besides the eye idt A would even see that machine as his kid, her ass just looks like a blue kali than anything
>>738111797Agree to disagree, the schmuck would have never stood a chance convincing her. Ayin couldn't seed without all the Sephirah and Angela couldn't jizz the light without the Patrons. However this time its Angela/Roland being gaped by the Sephirah because these two never got to have a meltdown.
>>738111797What do you think about Malkuth btw? She's absolute SEX in Ruina.
>>738111797Aren't you forgetting to credit something like I don't know maybe the fucking realizations!? Like what roland said to Angela is basically just a dumb down version of the lessons they learn from the sephirahs
>>738112048I would say this if they showed as much as sliver of growth throughout the game and didnt just do 180 at the very last and final moment
My problem with Limbus right now is the fact we're going too fast and the powerlevels are off the charts in the last three Cantos. I think the plot works better when the Sinners are actual shitters who barely get by.Also Im not keen of pulling the curtains on the secrets of the City: for example Hermes kinda fucks things up because now we know the Prescripts are not some kind of weird Machine, a person or something supernatural but straight up a God. Its lame when you debunk myths of your own story.>>738075078Well the role of a nagging bitch is already taken by Ish and Outis, a third sardonic female on the cast is too much.
>>738075078Lol no she a waste of character slot even before it revealed that she is faking being a retard
>>738112206>Prescripts are not some kind of weird Machine, a person or something supernatural but straight up a God. Its lame when you debunk myths of your own story.Speedreaderbro...
>>738112206>Hermes kinda fucks things up because now we know the Prescripts are not some kind of weird Machine, a person or something supernatural but straight up a God... damn, that is two flavors of contradictory bait in one statement. I'm impressed.
>>738112187you see it slowly happening but with how they're misaligned with the receptions; unless you specifically follow which to do when it will feel disjointed.
>>738111957Roland isnt sefira though, hes really nit supposed to get any. At all. One of the reasons why he is shit protag, man just simply and plainly doesnt fit in library at all, he is a fucking alien outsider>t-thats the point>he is shit... On purpose!We couldve still had it with bookhunter but actually good. Everything would be tighter. The themes, the resonances, the relationships, actual discovery of the city fron zero. Lubrary of Ruina could actually be good if it was Tower of Babel instead
The most bewildering part of this thread has to be the knowledge that there are Limbus fans who outright resent and hate the original books, and mock those who don't.
>>738112452Fair notion but it just goes further to credit pms dogshit pacing
>>738110170ayin is not mention anywhere and treated as a literally who all of the sephria either hated or don't give a shit about him only hokma and binah seem to like the guy
>>738075078Jussis!
>>738112484Robloxkids cant handle criticism
>>738075078don barely 200 and that is after she drink the retard water and become retard
>>738112484Books are icky and problematic. There are some Diddy Epstein ahh books out there, you know, some of them as bad as Bl*ck S*uls. I'll stick to Limbus and Item Asylum, thank you very much. >He gets a glimpse of Margherita and her daughter, but there is a density of orgy-goers around them that keeps him at a distance. He knows he’s vulnerable, more than he should be, to pretty little girls, so he reckons it’s just as well, because that Bianca’s a knockout, all right: 11 or 12, dark and lovely, wearing a red chiffon gown, silk stockings and high-heeled slippers, her hair swept up elaborate and flawless and interwoven with a string of pearls to show pendant earrings of crystal twinkling from her tiny lobes . . . help, help. Why do these things have to keep coming down on him? He can see the obit now in Time magazine—Died, Rocketman, pushing 30, in the Zone, of lust.
>>738112598I'm not even saying this from a critical lens, I think every canto except 5 was quite respectful to the original literature and PM routinely manages to pick up on details and themes no one else has. Regardless of how straight they adapt things.I.E. There was not a single person who realized Gregor was a former lieutenant before Limbus.
>>738112301>>738112449Cocksuckers, If you're talking about the events of Ruina yes, now the whole Yan's arc went straight to the shitter because there's no room for interpretation or something cool, its just a lame ass god. Who cares how Hermes came to be if it's just a God so why bother? if he's a machine AI who cares? If he's something else? He's already a lame fuck.Peeking behind curtain is always a terrible idea and the results are always lame, removing mystery from the readers is never a good move.
>>738112484moby dick and don quixote isn't good book to begin with
>>738075078Just say you understand nothing it's easier to make clear like that especially a lot of PM fans constantly do this unfortunately
>>738112691Thats quite alright until you stop for a second and realise that Bookcliff is better character and youd rather have him on the team instead of subby gayporn reject you got. And so on.
>>738112790So true I watch DBZ instead mucho betterer
>>738112750>my headcannon isn't real anything must be mystified otherwise is dogshit
>>738112750>Yan's arc went straight to the shitterI know, isnt it wonderful? Dant call it a grave, anon.
>>738112813Our Heathcliff more so reflects Hareton anyway, at least post-canto.
>>738112474Tower of Babel would be cool but you'd put the onus on Ayin, he already tapped out as far as he could. It's Angela's game for better or for worse. I certainly don't agree with the philosophy of things being shit on purpose. Roland makes for an annoying character, especially when Patrons handle realizations but he gets all the credit. I chalk it up to early access bullshit.As much as its painted that he helped her all alone, with no realizations, Roland goes schizo and murders Angela or Angela says fuck it and doesn't let go.At worst he takes or is given credit, at best he just summarizes what the Patron tried to tell her. Still gay. And Ayin still is respected, I can't recall any of them actively shitting on him after the realizations. Also I don't like the idea of bookhunters, the Library and its receptions but muhhhh we hunnt booorks, maybe we just like different ideas.
>>738112813you mean someone who is so petty that he rather spend his entire life to ruined his crush kid rather than doing anything productive with his life
We know even less about the Index now and there hasn't been a clear set answer for any of it yet
>>738112836Dbz is better adaptation thats for sure
>>738112907Yes
>>738112836the movie about don quixote is better adaptation than donquixote humiliation ritual in the book cause the author hated knight and chivalry
>>738112985everyone in wuthering height already death nigga
>>738112750Hermes is the name two index people gave their beepers that delivered them prescripts.Get it? Hermes like the messenger of the gods? And the prescripts are their gods?Not implying that Hermes MAKES the fucking prescripts in the slightest or that the name Hermes makes the source of the prescripts a god?Also, the term "gods of the city" was thrown around in the era of Ruina, with the "will of the city" (the will behind the prescripts) counted among them.So you're wrong in two ways.
>>738113062beeper don sexo index: beep beep you need to get plapped NOW!
Best MDE15 team?
Putting the most Basic bitch Middle School level Literary works on pedestal is not the gotcha you think it is especially for shit like Yi Sang's book or Hong's
>>738113167Straight W Corp.Field members that activate both charge and rupture fusion gifts.Route through both Murder on the Warp Express packs, pick up your ludicrous coin power.
>>738113187what did the director mean by having kromer open her giant pussy (iron maiden)?
>>738113259>W Corp.Fuck I only got ryoushu and don.
>>738113183Then it's a good thing Canto 4 was about the real League of Nine and Yi Sang, rather than any of his books in particular. Koreawank has always been a strong point of PM.
>>738113290That's only the "best" anon, there's plenty of teams that can do it. Charge does a lot of the heavy lifting in the W Corp combo, what do you have for a general Charge team?
>>738113287Her desire to be impregnated by her boytoy
>>738113375gregorheimqueen of love and hatethat's it so I don't have enough
>>738112897>focus on AyinNot necessarily, not that it matters now that he is pretty much 99% chance back for limbusI don't really care about concept of bookhunting as much as u care about nameless bookhunter as a character, monster made by machine made by man made by... Who exactly? A mother, perhaps? Even the library resonating would make more sense since thats how Angela got to inherit and reshape HQ. But, oh well, thats neither here nor there.>creditYou made me remember his cards of "cleared" receptions, this shit was donut steel tier cringe
>>738113439There are still plenty of options. I recommend starting from what archetypes you can fill out with at least 5 members, ideally 7. What comes to mind?
>>738113621I have BiS butterfly sinking, BiS Bleed and almost BiS Poise.
>>738075078Yea
>>738113167Bloodfiends with bleed + rupture gifts + bloodfeast & poise giftsThe MiddleHeishous, but those guys might fall short on secret bosses
>>738113445Something something it's her EGO. Don't really give a shit about the bookhunters. It makes sense if receptions dry out and you are hellbent on getting books, I guess. Everything in this series reads like OC cringe, Roland just stands out more because he's the first character being lugged in after you start playing while getting all limelight as the rest are cast aside.I have to go because it's 5 AM, what are your thoughts on PM bringing Ayin back? Aside from a shitty announcer, I don't see them doing anything with him. Especially after what they did with the sweepers.
>>738113167MiddleBleed + charge + rupture, slot callisto lu 1 and you just win
>>738113425you just know CHADclair would lock her down if it weren't for the sinners being there
>>738113062The Will of the City is like the Holy Spirit and Hermes acting as one of the parts of Gods just like in the Trinity, so yeah Hermes IS God, a part of God therefore its God. Im not saying other aspects of God doesnt exist and play ball on they own if I got shit wrong hey no biggie, my bad lets of stop here.Im just throwing my two cents into the mix,>>738112850Aint headcannon but my own nuance take about writting in general and Im not ashame to say it. I find when you build a mystery and pull the curtain the result lacks punch most of the time.>>738113152You joke but Hermes like any good ol' Greek god LOVES to fuck and you can be damn sure he would plap Don and Sora until his dick fall off his loins.
>>738113821Well, thats my point, its her ego, not his.If they actually bring Ayin back i would actually drop the gane if i didnt already at canto 8
>>738112750>he still thinks prescripts are one guyLMAO
>>738114008Isn't the implication that Ayin believes in people raising their own EGO kino to you? Carmen lulls all kinds of whispers while GODyin just sits by as God should. Perhaps I'm letting my fantasies influence our discussion and this assumption is entirely false. Feel free to correct me. I agree using Ayin in Limbus is an emergency button reserved to summon gabazilltrillion moneys.
>>738113936call me Hermes because Mes pénis will be stuck in Her pussy
>>738113821>Especially after what they did with the sweepers.What do you mean by that?>>738113821>>738114008The library is both of their egos.It was Ayin's when it was the facility but became Angela's after he went in the light.Ordeals were popping up because the facility changed based on his mind and thoughts and he literally drug the whole thing out of the earth when he felt like he was ready.
>>738114343I didn't like the sweeper event. So many IDs but we can't have sweeper themed ones?
>>738094290>This is incorrect however?Mathias is the only one really. He's clearly a sociopath that sees everyone else in the world as just a toy to benefit him.Valencia was obviously abusive, but even she had hints of actually caring for both Ryoshu and even Lucio, when she wakes up after her drunkenness fir the former and when he dies and she refuses to believe it and flips out for the latter. Frankly the fact that Lucio didn't flip and betray her mid battle is telling that he understood they were both in the same boat of having been crushed by expectations they couldn't meet.Callisto was just artistic honestly. He lost touch with humanity, and even though Ryoshu inherited his teachings, there was no real human bond there to even sever.Shiomi we learn way too little about, but ironically she was clearly the one Ryoshu came to hate the most, exactly because they were the most alike.Rien was just a puppet, though in the end he clearly regretted it.
>>738114239The problem i have is that Roland gets too major and deep interaction with other person's ego, on par with its owner. It would be okay if they still went with originally intended emotional resonances for mob guests or if the game explicitly said and explained that library is extracted ego, revamped and restyled like many others, and that everyone could use it. Of course it would invalidate Rolands bad end but its already invalidated on its own, with the hole burrowed upon facility surfacing just not being there when library collapses
Ayin larper Dante feels like it might actually happened with the sapling and dias being in the mix now
>>738114672Think we agree here, while he looks cool and thematically fits, coupled with a backstory. His involvement is overplayed with you reading dialogue fellating Roland. I understand what you mean. It wasn't enjoyable when playing Ruina. I liked the bad end though, made me a little sad for Angela.
>>738114410They're probably saving those for whenever we learn more about them, they've been teasing the Mother a few times.
>>738113187Krussy...
>>738114795Cant wait for the third round of him getting shat on>t. was okay when lobcorp condemned him for his actions, truly weird, curious and bizzare isnt it, its as if beating something over head again and again and again and again has something to do with causing repulsion and distaste for said thing
>>738115082He's gonna be acclaimed like Jesus when he rose from the dead after 3 days when he comes back in Limbus
>>738075078>I will continue to play videogames despite being 30 years oldIs this good behavior?
>>738115308If you enjoy it yeah.
>>738115082Dias is going to call his a visionary
>>738115082>again and again>round and roundBravo director
>>738075293White hands typed this post
>>738106221NahThey were all brought down to Sinclair's levelYi Sang was ELEVATED thanks to using Sinc as the baseline instead of him
>>738115447We already have line from dias in lor>When one person's pure ambition and another's tragic obsession join together, a dream is destined to be born.And now looks like she's trying to recreate Ayin's dream though idt her intention is as altruistic as his
>>738110472Angela get off the internetwho the fuck keeps letting you get past the capcha anyway
>>738115082Tbh in ruina at the end roland basically acknowledge that Ayin's plan would have work and if it weren't Angela throwing a tantrum, his wife would have live and that she's is as bad as the person she hated and loved. Only problem is the fags who played lor still refused acknowledge that Angela ruined everything and blame Ayin despite Angela's character development is acknowledging her sins in the end
>>738116321Let the girl yearn
>>738112000She still T H R I S T S for Ayin even after being fully human again
>>738116527Also why is she so special that she gets the dialogue of defending Ayin in front of Angela? Like hokma and binah i can understand but why her bruh
>>738116527Get that flat bitch's tits off my king's hand
>>738116527*SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRPPPPPPPP*
>>738116527Try as I might I just don't see the appeal, and I don't get why people like most of the Sephiras. They're kinda boring.I understand liking the Chesed and the Tiphs and obviously Geb and the Keter floorers, but the rest, I truly won't ever get it.
>>738112484>The illitarete is making up headcanons about people instead of games now.
>>738116648Keter in Malkuth
>>738115082>It's ok when Lobcorp did it b-but then they did it again and it was le badRuina is about Angela, Ayin is the direct source of all her million years of suffering. Sorry that it didn't get swept under the rug so your feefees wouldn't get hurt. On top of that you're acting like Angela being mean to Ayin is the only thing that happens in Ruina, it's not and IIRC there are plenty of times where Angela brings up her suffering without seething at Ayin.
>>738117408Also Angela does gets called out for constantly spamming "muh suffering" and "it's the man i hate yet loved's fault" every time a guest challenge her reasoning, so PM weren't just slandering Ayin
Man, i love Ayin
when it ayin even relevent outside of lobcorp
>>738110343>who are still Assmad over 100 LCPeople are Assmad over that Still?
>>738077498>How would these +300yr olds even act like?Chances are they would be a schizo nutcase, humans aren't built to live under such long periods mentally. In that sense Don is pretty realistic though tame.
>>738075078I dont know what this is but its fucking ugly
>>738117967Sounds like you've forgotten the plAn
>>738118271I don't know who you are but you should kill yourself
>>738117967Canto 9 literally just revealed that we're recreating his bullshit plan again with the sapling of light that hoe is making being a small tree of light... Tbh i do want them to get over this L corp/Ayin story already
>>738118519merging the sap of light is no where near creating the sol
>>738118519The original White Nights and Dark Days was just Ayin unleashing his Mang with a billion years worth of traumathe "branches" are just Carmen's nervous systemDias is just trying to bring Carmen back to life
So the current strong MD team is still Charge / Rupture with W Corp Heath and Hohenheim Gregor running the show right?
>>738118932current strongest*
>>738118932no
>>738119045I wish I wasn't retarded, I have no idea how niggas get these broken ass builds and synergies
>>738118896>the "branches" are just Carmen's nervous systemGotta ask, where the fuck did this retarded theory even come from? Like the shit is literally called "golden boughs" a.k.a "golden BRANCH" and we have seen a massive tree that emits a golden glow before AND also! Carmen's spine is fucking green!!!... Like make it make sense
>>738119181it's mostly just the middle has a lot of very strong support gifts now, like the new fusion gift, and especially with the hidden boss item (pic rel). it's very silly, and your entire strat is just "use counter every turn, gg shake my hand"
>>738075078She's some sort of vampire who drink blood to feed off of emotions. She is quite literally insane and only manages to sustain herself by larping with those weird boots.
virginity status of the sinners?
Dota 2 and troubleshooter won
Don should grow her hair more
Sinclair unironically got way more focus on other Sinner even Dante despite being a poorly written faggot we still don't know what is the aspect the reason join limbus in the frist place and Dante doesn't mention it again or try to search for it
>>738119469all of them are virgin
Thumb Nursefather Rodya and Heathcliff Lucio when
>>738099164>Red Mist powered by 15 Demians and 26 Angelas forma SuperEGO, Forma 800 Shin could show up in front of the sinners right nowThis is being saved for their obligated glaze moment when the library cast saves you from [random enemy that will rape us but won't actually because flow] to have what is basically a cutscene fight you have to play through
>>738119469Heathcliff was raped by Hindley.
>>738119784even rodya?
>>738120367Sonya has to sell his body to old hag to feed her
>>738120398and she didnt do the same? fat bitches would do everything for food.
>>738119469>yi sangbanged with the league>Fausthyper slut>donshe lived for like 300 years, what do you think?>Ryoassassin means seduction sometimes>Meursaultfucks>Hong Luliterally has concubines and a human onahole in his home>HeathCathy>IshShes a sailor >Rodyaprostitute>Sinclairraped by kromer >outishas a family>gregorraped by hermannused goods company.
>>738106221Remember that all the ass kicking is done 12v1 with revivesWe don't have anyone who can solo hold ground vs that tier of opponent without breaking the contract
>>738075293FIPPYhe wonned
>tell ryoshu to sever chains of the stronger sinners when needed>instant SOTC threats summoned>beat the shit out of the enemies without the Yi Sang debuff>tell araya to repair the chain>rinse and repeatwhy not?
>>738108236There’s a steam page for Leviathan
>>738106221Outis says her past strength is coming back somewhat, the Sinners are growing stronger as we collect more Boughs.
>>738120624Fippy is >>738075227At most it's sippy
Limbus should have been a crpg
What will the ending of limbus be when the game eventually EOS? It feels like this one will actually get an ending instead of getting dragged like every other gacha but i doubt they would just give up on the infinite money glitch unless they actually started making real games to pay their bills.how would they make it end sastifyingly while still squeezing money out of south east asian roblox kids?
>>738120695>all her IDs are shit because she's so unused to operating at a lower power level that she overextends, her body can't keep up with her mind>as her strength returns, she'll become broken as fuckHFK. Apologise to Outisdev right now.
>>738120841director troons out and kills himself in purgatario 6 and the game just ends abruptly or become even more of a shitty harem gacha because the new gacha writers
WHERE IS MY OUTIS MAT KIMMY I WANT MY MIDDLE TEAM TO GO FUCKING NUTS
Sex with Index Don without unlock
Sex with Index Don with unlock
>>738120931>she's excited for an Outis identityLolLmaoYou people never learn
>>738120841They could go back to points in between the story we have now and have room to make bajillions of new Intervallos and Walpurgises.
>>738120841Make it end and then release end game side content named gazing into the mirror where you play as alternate universe dante and have self contained arcs in them
>>738120998I have fAith in Kim Jong Un
We know outis IDs are all dogshit but which sinner has the strongest ids?
>>738120841Dante collects the 7 golden boughs and makes a wish to free the city from its suffering. World resets and reforms into a normal Earth with modern-day tech where everyone is a normal wagie
I hate limbus so muchwe could've gotten more masterpieces like lobotomy and ruina, but now all we have is a gachaslopMAKE REAL GAMES!!!
>>738121039BVLLcliff
>>738121081Be careful the mexicans inhabiting this thread will call you brown
>>738121047like the chainsaw man part 2 ending where everyone's a normal wagie now?how would a normal life for the sinners even look like?
>>738120924Bro's just saying what he wants to happen.
>>738121189That... Was a reference to fgo's ending...
>>738121189I was thinking of the evangelion manga ending but that works too kek
>>738121039I would say Honger gets the most consistent 000 IDs, they're rarely bad and have their use cases.Tingtang was insane at launch too and it took a good 3-4 seasons for him to get out powercrept
>>738121189people like heathcliff, meursault and ishmael can fit easily into normal life but shitters like don and gregor are going to be pedophiles if they are real.
>>738119045
>>738120841Hermann succeeds in destroying all mirror worlds so the identities and mirror world shit is goneDias succeeds in becoming the new Head
>>738121496how about limbus company?
>>738121528It just becomes the new L corp in the process together with Wayfarer becoming the new W corp
>>738121576how about the sinners and our buddies?
>>738121631If Certain Sinclair is anything to go by, they get disbanded after fulfilling their purpose and proceed living doing whatever the life has for them
>>738121705what would they realistically do without limbus company? they pretty much burned all their bridges while collecting the boughs. They literally have nothing to fall back to now.
>>738120791first intelligent perspicacious post yonder
>>738121758I can see Yi Sang and Faust becoming researchers, while everyone else can become Fixers, Limbus gave them a lot of experience after allHong Lu would probably be looking for his own wayDon would want to continue his Father's wish
>>738121758What? They have done good work to several influental directors in various corporations and helped the actual ceo of H-corp get into her current position
>>738120841>What will the ending of limbus be when the game eventually EOS?They'll become the Next L-Corp/Head Dias/Loop Theory stuff That's literally the only believable outcome probably most of not all of the Sinners staying with Dante since they've literally been better being with him And no FutureCliar is not a set in stone possibility
One day we will ally with Zena
SOON.
>>738078419This guy was a ishfagI wonder which elder was the Outisbro
>>738122110Should've released threadspin 5 first and gave it to envy peccatula desu
>>738078419Do you think they asked the grandma to give them extra materials about each sinner or they went into each canto spoiler-free?
i only care about zena
>>738122804Which
>>738122905All of them
I'd probably go retarded or insane after only 200 years. I'm not even 40 yet and I've had enough.
>>738075405Because its self published. There isn't a publisher or collaborator voraciously devouring their income and demanding more and more growth so they're able to become more wealthy despite having lower revenue than other popular gacha on the market.
>>738123380Drake my beloved
>>738075078>I will continue acting like a retard just for fun despite being 600 years oldi'm literally don wtf
>>738124878I'll punch you.
>>738120841There's at least 7 years of story left dude we don't even know what the 'stars' are all about. We have no idea what the ending will be about.
>>738124998Its pretty obvious if you ask me.
>>738121081I mirror your sentiment.Its such a shame how things turned out.
>>738103580She was always good but shackled by her preferred team comp. Then they refused to elaborate for years. Then Envy-Res came back but started to lean more into charge, but she still could find footing thanks to charge ego. Then QoH came along and put her relevance in the dumpster for no good reason. Now she actually has the team she was designed for. Remember Niche or Not-Meta strategies does not mean shit.
>>738123380bnuuy
>>738125061Hard to believe that Rodya won't be a betrayer.
>>738118932No its Bleed/Charge/Rupture with Ring Hong Lu deleting the entire field with a single skill 3 on turn 1. Ring Faust, Hoheiheim Greg, and W-Heath clean up anything that could survive.
>>738125110I wish they would play more with sin type IDs/teams instead of just being so tightly bound by status types. I get each status is basically X or Y sin heavy, but it feels pretty inconsequential at the end of the day unless a boss REALLY favors being abused by a specific sin type. I also understand it's probably due to needing every ID to have a keyword tag for MD, but it'd be nice to see them start mixing things up more.Maybe when we move out of inferno...
>>738120573ENTERhttps://youtu.be/rcTrjZjMQQA
I haven't tried hard mode Rufo yetWhat's a braindead setup I don't wanna bother with thinking about it.
>>738125726ringslop bleedwhen she puts on the fursuit change team and turn on the index/sinking machine
>>738125726It railroads you into using lust/bleed on the first phase and gloom/sinking on the second.So the braindead strategy is Ringslop on phase 1 and Indexslop on phase 2. The first 2 nursedaddies we got rape her, wow the most blatant shilling for new IDs we've had yet.
Which sinners would be rapers and which would be rapees?
>>738126163Sang Yi rapes all.
>>738126163>rapersPre amnesia EVILte>Rapeeseveryone else, including post amnesia SHUCKAROONIESte
>>738126163>>>/vg/
https://youtu.be/hPk3uU3vd9opost yfw
>>738126240>leftraped>rightraper
>>738126163
>>738126527Why did they do it bros...
>>738126163>raperfaust, don, ryoshu, mersault, sinclair, hong lu>eesyi sang, heathcliff, gregor, rodya, outis,,ishmael
Ryoshu doesn't know this, but the Head actually wanted to raid Spider's Nest because Saru, as a non-human, wasn't allowed in the City, but the Nursefathers repelled the attackReally ungrateful on her side
>>738127878Would the backdoor count as "in the City"?Alan says it can lead to spaces beyond human comprehension.
>>738128460If beholders could see into the backrooms the head and everyone else would use them all the time. Without any dangers it'd be too useful.
>>738120931Next year for Canto XTwining Threads BokgakYou're not getting Valencina or Mattias this year bub
Why no indians in the City?
>>738124949Drake why did you betray the Manager
>>738129136Humans are the only sapient species allowed in the City.
>>738125098This is just more proof that Dante is Ayin
>>738129174>implyingHe was the first, dude
>>738129217
>>738129312
>>738075293DoomGODS won though. Everything they said day 1 came true.
>>738129339Ayin ain't the only one who can split his consciousness
>>738118519>get over this L corp/Ayin story alreadyHis story is already over, but when what he made had an impact on the entirety of the lives of every single person living in the City (and hell, even maybe those outside to some extent) it's hard to not mention it.Especially since abnormalities and distortions are running around occasionally and the Head is still actively seething over Ayin's existence and what he did.
>>738129365Ri-i-ight>>578658023>>578664983>>578997968
>>738075078No and I dropped the game here.
>>738129887>Indentity system clearly is hamfisted non-canon shit exisiting to sell skins, either as purchasable cosmetics or gacha. Second cope>People don't honestly think that a $30 mobile game is profitable, do they? Of course it's gonna be gacha.Epic self own. The only thing he got wrong was it being Play Store exclusive. He predicted the gachaslop when other people were still coping. If you're gonna cherrypick posts from 4 years ago, maybe chose some that actually support your argument, top kek. Limbus players truly cannot read.
cock sizes of the sinners?
>>738130239HUNG Lu the biggest.
>>738130239headcanon:yi sang:clittymeursault:500 inchheathcliff:7 incheshong lu:dependssinclair:clittygregor:dependsishmael(mtf):3 inches
>>738130239Kill yourself.
>>738129887I mostly moved on but I still got a few grudges left that are Canto related so I gotta wait.Oh, I guess there's these.
>>738130239heathcliff is an arab, not black, btw.
>>738130490Gypsies are jeets, retard.
>>738130202>>Indentity system clearly is hamfisted non-canon shit exisiting to sell skins>Epic self ownlol
>>738130289What the fuck do you mean "depends"?
>>738130538How is it not made to sell skins
>>738130239Carmente mogs.
>page 55 more to go
>>738130328There still isn't a single ID with a permanently covered face in the game and ID UTV is actually never happening. Instead we got the god awful facade system that the game literally warns you barely works.
>>7381305721 - Skins are in a game for the purpose of selling a new appearance for a character, they give little to no change gameplay-wise. The purpose of identity gives more importance to the gameplay and story aspects.2 - There is an actual separate skin system.3 - They've been a thing since Lobotomy Corporation, and have been (kind of) used during gameplay all throughout Ruina.
rate my canto X teamIt might be impossible with their coin stats
>>738130932Kek.
>>738130932They should give Heath the inevitable Ego Gear Nelly ID.
>>738130810rape
>>738075405It's not a financially demanding game. It's more like a subscription game than a gacha. Every six months you could pay twelve bucks to have the ability to just outright yoink your favorite units just by doing your dailies and weeklies. Also, being a VN makes it somewhat unappealing. Fate gets a pass because it was the grandpa of all gacha games, but currently you need titties and ass or 3D action gameplay to have gangbuster appeal. Arknights has high end 3D previews for marketing, meanwhile Limbus is only just starting to drop money on advertising.
>>738130932N Corp isn't as bad as people make you believe.They're not the greatest in chain battle and against mooks but they will absolutely ravage most bosses due to the sheer amount of debuffs Don, Meursault and Heathcliff apply.Meursault also just won't ever die unless he gets one shot thanks to his S3.I usually don't use Sinclair on N Corp but he deals nice damage I guess.
no one finds bong bong sexy, stop spamming her
>>738131685Btw if you do end up actually using it, Thoracalgia Faust and Regret or Hurtily on Meursault are the usual first EGOs you should pop for passives, although the deeper in we get the less useful Hurtily is given how many AOE and health gates bosses have meaning he's in danger a lot more often
>Powerful abno ("teth"/aleph I believe) with a nail, hammer, gazing eyes and a theme of guilt.>Corp called Nagel und Hammer>The gaze bearing>Guy that got put on trialHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM........
>>738131730>no one finds bong bong sexy
>>738131954>abno shows up in the fight against a person symbolizing the sun>Guy who did terrible things because of the sunHmm?
I'm going to commit a taboo.
>>738131730Scrunklydragon does>inb4 literally who
>>738130761Manager will never let Don be anything other than QoH
>>738132197is masturbating to arbiters a taboo?
>>738132250It's very human-ly so I don't think so
>>738132231literally who
>>738132197https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razqvi5t2dc
>>738132250Tax Fraud
>>738132461is that the artist who keeps drawing an OC having sex with abnos?
>>738132461Is that...>>738132509I-I gotta go.
>>738132509>>738132461Uhm, taboo hunters, that's a nipple?
>>738132562NO ONE wants to have sex with that
>>738075078>acting
*Heals you, curing you of all disease and injury you posses*
