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Do you prefer your frogs wiggly or smooth?
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>>738075464
NERF THIS BITCH ALRADY
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>>738075464
Are the Cochinchinese still seething?
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hey jannies, just once again pointing out that these slay the spire threads are video game generals and should probably be moved to /vg/
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>>738075464
Phobia mode in media is retarded. What about people afraid of frogs? Or dogs, or statues, or robots? People who can't play a game should come back after therapy, make their own mod, or fuck off.
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Hidden gem + transfigure combo for hot memes
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>>738075643
wannabe jannie is mad lmao
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>>738075464
I didn't even realise that was a frog. I just thought it was a mass of worms.
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>>738075750
what did you think Phrog Parasite meant?
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>>738075740
theres no such thing as a wannabe janny. anyone can easily be a janny by just applying. there aren't requirements. its not like 4chan would need to have requirements when they aren't paying them anyways.
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>>738075464
It's a frog?
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>>738075813
then apply and stop whining about which thread belongs where. who gives a shit
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>>738075923
no. i don't like having /v/ tourists coming into my video game general constantly.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243745398607/76561197997192985

come beta test
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>>738075798
I never really look at the names.
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>>738075956
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>people complain about Hunter killer
>when those two act 1 bastards exist
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Do you feel like this card actually does enough? I feel like you can't shuffle status cards into your deck fast enough for this to really pop off for more than like 8 procs. Would it be too op to let it include statuses that are already in the exhaust pile?
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>>738076112
hunter killer is the same phenomenon as doormaker. just dogshit players who don't pay attention to the mechanics before playing cards or can't recognize when the problem is their deck and not the mechanic and then come here to bitch about the fight being badly designed. hunter killer doesn't even scale.
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>have 1 Nightmare, 2 Abrasive, 1 Footwork
>couldn't draw them in the same turn so I ended up using Nightmare on Snakebite
>it worked against the Queen
that's ok I guess
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>>738076112
jaxfruit is a hidden elite
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someone post xecnars defect tier list please, thank you
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>>738075798
I thought the same thing as him but I thought the name was a reference to Phrogging, which is what it's called when someone hides in and squats in your house. I thought it was called that because it hides parasites in your deck.

I thought it was a big worm jellyfish.
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Stuck at A5. Is ascending higher even fun? If not I'm just going to stay at a comfy A1.
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>>738076827
Depends on your attitude. I lose almost all my A9-10 runs, but even getting through Act 1 with a decent deck is more satisfying than winning A0 to me, because A0 is not really punishing. On A10, I know that I'm winning because I'm making good choices, and each challenge that I overcome is due to my actual effort
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I'm sorry Tezcatara, I will never talk shit about you again.
So, flower or razor tooth first?
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>>738076827
A9 is usually where the fun ends. It increases enemy damage, and it completely changes your gameplay.
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>>738077129
if you lose almost all A10 runs then isn't it likely that any win is because of luck and not you improving at the game?
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>>738077597
Probably Razor Tooth and then Flower just because Flower can buy you extra turns randomly which is always good while you have to cycle for Razor Tooth
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Never listen to anyone who tells you that you can't beat A10 because you're shit. Even reaching A10 requires a fuck ton of savescumming and brute forcing.
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If someone makes a downfall equivalent mod for sts2 years from now which enemies do you think would be the most fun to convert into playable characters?
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>>738078029
If only I was better I would've drawn literally anything. I really do fucking hate this game.
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>>738077627
Luck is a factor, but I can also tell why I lose (pathing, not finding scaling, bad micro etc), and I can see how I won. I'm at ~20% wins on my fav character, and I'm OK with that as a starting point.
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>>738078029
What is that screenshot supposed to show? Just play 2 strikes on the first enemy to kill (you have strike dummy) then your upgraded strike on the back guy to put him within killing range of a single strike for next turn. Taking 10-15 for a hard hallway fight that early is normal.
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>>738078191
It's extremely frustrating to take damage while not drawing a single block card.
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>>738078087
opening 3 strikes with strike dummy and 1 being upgraded isn't even a bad opening hand so early. Are you really ready to give up lol
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>>738078270
mentally weak and female
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>>738078270
But you can stop 10 of the damage by playing 2 strikes anon. And have the back guy ready to kill next turn. Which will probably save you more damage than blocking on the first turn by the end of the fight. I would be pissed with that hand too if you didn't have strike dummy making it perfect for lethal
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>>738078029
Just draw better. You still aren't facing the hard version of enemies by the way. There's a reason there are no rewards for ascensions
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>>738078487
>Just draw better
The ultimate midwit reply.
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>>738078609
Why are you so mad? Clearly all you should've done is draw better and you wouldn't be here complaining :)
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>>738078487
>>738078609
>>738078697
It's not even a bad hand are you guys just pretending to be retarded?
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ggs, deck came together at the end there. good relics
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>>738078029
wtf are you even bitching about, you had lethal on the front one even without strike dummy. god forbid you let yourself take 7 damage.
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I'd be a bit annoyed, too, cause IIRC crossbow guy hits hardest on turn 2
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GG
>juggling into corrupted pact's end into corrupted pacts end
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>>738078948
Yeah but what are you gonna draw in act 1 to deal with it? The Sunder you lucked into I guess?
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>>738078270
Nigga you're taking 7 (seven) damage. You'll live.
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>>738078948
He just needs to draw either ball lightning or his last strike next turn to have lethal on the crossbow guy. His upgraded strike will leave him with 7 HP and if the lightning orb hits him then cold snap will also be an option to finish him off. Dualcast has a high chance of finishing him. Hologram into a strike he already played. The fight was solved by opening with those strikes.
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>>738077597
Do cards get downgraded when War Paint melts?
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>>738075740
>fag begs for attention
>give him attention
ngmi
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>>738079192
Nope. You keep the gold from old coin as well. So you take those first so they melt and keep the actual disposable ones the longest.
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>>738078319
The spiritually chinese think every setback is worth ragequitting over. They truly believe that if you follow a flowchat, every single run should lead to a flawless victory. Either that or he's just a frustrated nigger that refuses to take a break.
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>>738077597
Gold coin. Wax paint. Happy flower. Razor tooth last so you still have it in act 3
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>>738075617
What do you use to make these?
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Are their any good Ironclad and Silent model change mods? I only know of the mesugaki Regent and Witch necrobinder
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yes there are now you have an excuse to reply to yourself with them
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>>738079546
But I legitimately dont know where to find them
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then advertise the patreon again fag
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>>738079460
I am not anon that made it
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>>738079501
The guy who made one of the Regents has a Silent mod, everything else doesn't exist right now pretty much
Brown regent guy has concepts for the other characters but I don't like his Ironclad and prefer the other Silent, Necro is good though
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>>738079719
Know where I can find the Silent mod? His regent mod got nuked off Nexus and idk where he reposts his stuff
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Look you gayniggerfaggots, I don't care if I can beat Doormaker or not, the fight simply isn't fun or anything close to it. It doesn't help that Defect runs basically boil down to
>Did you find a Compact? No? Well fuck you then :)
That shit's as polarising as Electrodynamics was in StS1.
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>>738080039
>a5
you didn't beat anything lmao
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>>738080039
Good job anon. There's plenty of other ways to win with him defect is strong. I never take compact or status shit other than turbo.
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>>738080039
>ONE (1) elite
>dodging every act 3 combat
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>>738080154
beat a10 without using any shops or picking cards
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>>738080223
Compact isn't there for status decks lmao. Maybe the devs put it in for that reason but if you can grab one early act 1 it shuts down so many fucking enemies it's wild.
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doormaker is fun and encourages you to calculate how much damage is left in your deck and how to utilize the exhaust turn as well as squeezing value from the energy down turn
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>>738080227
he didn't need to fight more elites with those relics and cards. He didn't even use his pots. That would be an easy a10 win with a few rests and less upgrades.
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>>738080353
noooo bosses need to be the EXACT same as every hallway fight with SLIGHTLY higher numbers or they're NOT FAIR OR FUN
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>he doesn't have a big d*ck
I shiggy diggy
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>>738076180
There's so much bad about this card it's crazy.
>2 cost for something that does nothing raw
>exhausts itself so can't use it to combo
>only 11 damage upgraded lmao
>random enemy
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>>738080471
big
defect
deck
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The absolute mental gymnastics of thinking that Chinks have the easiest time with the Doormaker as per winrates but also the hardest time with the Doormaker. The absolute state of gweilo. Baizuo, if I may.
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>>738080332
Alright I'll try it
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Unga bunga agunga
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>>738080485
>exhausts itself
retard
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>>738080518
The e-celebrities you admire already called it S tier. Why did you need me to tell you it was good? How could you not already be aware? Have you really never sat and watched an enemy put status cards in your deck?
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>>738080527
>no primal force
bro do you even bunga your unga?
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>>738080569
I don't follow e-celebs
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>>738080608
>I don't follow e-celebs
>But allow me to regurgitate their opinions about cards and why Chinese players are all stupid
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chinese players ARE all stupid thoughever
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>>738080672
I didn't say anything about Chinese players
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>>738080753
Tell me how you feel about Doormaker.
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>>738075464
Huh, didn't notice it was actually a dead frog with parasites.
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>>738080782
I like it but it's too easy
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>>738080471
Absolutely dabbed on the chinkslayer goatse man picking random shit and the funny "grab everything from merchant" relic
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>>738080839
You know full well I'm aware that you're arguing in bad faith right now.
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>>738080381
yeah im sure his deck already looked like that on floor 10
real reason is hes on low ascension so nothing matters
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Amazing how every time I play ironclad in multiplayer I am somehow fucking unkillable and swimming in block, but in singleplayer I rarely find anything besides a blood wall for all of act 1.
Fucking hate this character and his shitty draws.
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Does anyone have a link for this one? Went digging for it yesterday, and was only able to find links to it through chinese sites that require you to make an account to download.
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advertised it again award
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>>738080885
Did you just reply to the wrong post or something I'm completely confused by whatever you are going on about
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>>738080979
LOL
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>>738080603
grug no find card yet
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>>738081046
throgg apologize, wish grug many bunga for his unga
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>>738081020
>if you like doormaker you are racist
sounds like you are the one arguing in bad faith, retard.
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>>738081139
>Chinks can beat Queen and Test Subject no problem
>But can't beat the easiest act 3 boss

This is your brain on "I'm fine with bad game design and will fight to defend the devs on it".
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>>738081210
i think that even among chinks the complainers are a minority. they simply have more whiners.
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I get tired of playing characters that aren't Regent very fast
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>>738081210
I never said anything about Chinese people only you did. Do you think all anons are the same poster or did you really just fuck up and reply to the wrong person?
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>>738081264
>i think that even among chinks the complainers are a minority
That makes no logical sense. Why then wouldn't the overall Steam reviews be higher if that were the case?
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>>738081346
Most people don't review games, and the people who are outspoken are the ones who'd reviewbomb
I mean, have you reviewed STS2 on Steam?
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>>738081346
What about it is nonsensical? The review bombing is dumb, so it'd be consistent if dumb players struggling with the easiest boss are leaving them.
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>>738081469
Yeah, I gave it a negative review because I'm sick of 1) the Doormaker not being fun to fight, and 2) the Doormaker being the only act 3 boss I get. I just checked and I've had him in my last 4 runs. That's a 1.2% chance. If I die to Test Subject I just think my deck wasn't good enough, but when I die to Doormaker I think it fucking sucks to fight because I wasn't allowed to play my cards.
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>>738081628
Oh and I could add 3) the devs refusing to acknowledge that everyone hates the Doormaker's design barring the 0.1% playerbase grognards.
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>>738081628
You're retarded then. If you died to doormaker it's also because your deck wasn't good enough.
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>>738081952
Who said anyone is dying to Doormaker? It's well known as this point that players have the highest win rate against him. And yet people are still complaining about him. Why is that? Do you have the first fucking idea or are you going to commit Orwellian doublethink again?

>He's the easiest boss
>But people are complaining about him because they can't beat him!

Retard.
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>>738081628
>I wasn't allowed
you queers admonish everything negative as if it's your parents punishing you.
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>>738082078
The retards (you) that can't beat the easiest boss because it requires a different approach and other fights are complaining about him.
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>>738082078
>Who said anyone is dying to Doormaker?
The comment I directly replied to. This just confirms to me that the people whining about doormaker can't read.
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i fucking love chemical x + buffed eradicate
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shoutout to my best friend Darv for sponsoring this free A10 clear
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>>738082371
What's the relic between pyramid and tail?
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>>738082371
>Runic and Cape
didn't beat the game
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>>738082371
why avoid all the elites when you were so strong early with that relic lineup? Just trying to play fast?
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>>738082450
the tea you get for not buying one of the other teas
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>>738082508
Elites are more likely to take chunks of your health. That isn't worth a random relic.
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>>738082736
do you actually have a high win rate with that approach?
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>>738082841
nigga hes a5 he barely has any clears and his opinions on strategy are entirely worthless
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>>738082508
>>738082841
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

Without potions, there is little you can do when you're dealt a bad draw on a terrible turn, and the need for relics isn't as run-defining in this game as they were in STS1
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>>738083104
but he just posted an a10 silent win that I'm replying to him about. Are you some kind of bot?
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>>738075643
Who cares? Faggot.
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this general is so bad at the game
>hurr avoid elites relics are bad and i have no clue how to tell when my deck is good into the elites
>durr add garbage to your deck and duplicate it to beat doormaker
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Maybe I'm being greedy but yeah
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>>738083112
What? I'm just wondering if you can get a high win rate while avoiding elites.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243760724337/76561198091556171

Hosting.
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less bitching more playing
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243760723155/76561199486452220
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>two weeks ago
>everyone was saying that if you take elite fights you have to take cards that are bad in boss fights so you should avoid them
>now
>you should take wing boots and take on four elites in act 1
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>>738083221
Glam is insane value on powers
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>>738083270
Switching to >>738083262
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>>738082736
you're supposed to trade hp for relics
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>>738083136
>bot
the only bot is you who still can't figure out if never ever fighting elites is a good idea two months into this game
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>>738083262
2/4
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>>738083280
>People improve at a game when they play it more
A very bizarre concept tbqh
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>>738083280
Bosses are less dangerous than elites who are in turn less dangerous than hard pool fights
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>>738075617
how did you make this card?
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>>738075643
fuck off we're full
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>>738083330
How did you interpret him as someone who is an "a5 player" when I was replying to his a10 victory image? You seem incapable of looking at images or differentiating between posters. Low IQ or a bot.
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>>738083280
It's almost as though there's merits to both and you should adapt your strategy depending on what the game gives you.
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>>738083510
you will die as Ironclad if you don't kill at least few elites
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>>738083260
>>738083280
Can't believe it has to be spelled out but context on the run matters. Not every advice/stragety applies to every run- if your deck isn't synergizing enough to take on Elites then you need to hold back and find cards/solutions that will. Alternatively if you're playing extremely passively and avoiding most elites, you risk the boss/certain encounter having a niche that counters your deck that a couple relics could've solved. Roguelike = adapting to challenges with what you're given
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>>738083459
a10 silent is a5 for other characters
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243761854909/76561198012392867
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>>738083805
You're talking to people incapable of adaptation. They read someone else's guide and think "this needs to work 100% of the time or the game is shit or the guide is shit." It's why everyone complaining about doormaster is a retard. He's the easiest boss but requires a different approach, unthinkable to chinks and other retards.
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>>738082508
the last like 5 silent runs all had strong starts only to get walled by 1 elite i thought i could take, i wasnt risking it
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>>738084057
a4 at best. curse doesn't matter on this character.
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>>738083805
>>738084178
>but context on the run matters
if you can kill a boss you can kill elite
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If Mega Crit hates infinites so much why don't they just remove unceasing top? Yes there will still exist some infinites that don't depend on it but it is the keystone of the majority of them.
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>>738083805
>blah blah blah blah
I'm asking a yes or no question, retard.
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>>738085138
>If Mega Crit hates infinites so much
Mega Crit hates easy to access and build infinites, not 1 in 100 runs having an infinite
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>>738085138
Because easy infinites are the problem, not infinites in general.
If infinites are too common then the optimal way to play is to ignore every single card that doesn't help you go infinite, and every run feels the same(see: Watcher)
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>>738084840
if you kill a boss and live with 2 hp you're fine. if you kill an elite and live with 2 hp, you could be in trouble. the goal is to be able to path into elite but it's not that black and white.
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just killed myself because i thought fake snecko eye was only for turn 1...
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>>738085342
>Mega Crit hates easy to access and build infinites
>>738085372
>Because easy infinites are the problem
Hey wanna know what the common denominator is that makes so many infinites so easy?
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>splash in every hallway:
>deal 33 damage to all enemies!
>deal 29 to all enemies and then play every turn from the exhaust pile!
>deal 84 damage!
>splash in the boss:
>murder, compile driver, murder, compile driver, deal damage per x stars
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>>738085763
>needs specific relic
>remove cards(expensive)
>most don't work against two out of three bosses
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I hate the antichrist.
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>>738086573
>take multiple curses
>draw them
>"How could this be happening to me?"
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>>738086573
>folly
ironic
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ah fuck its the nigger bug. this guy always goes to five turns for me, good time to pop the regen pot.
oh i top decked splash? lets see
>deal a gorillion damage x times
>putrefy and very hot cocoa
well there goes my regen pot...
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>>738078029
bait or retarded? call it.
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>>738086573
>he took the large chest
>he took jarred fog
you literally did it to yourself.
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>>738086573
eat your vegetables bitch
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>>738085763
who would win: a combo with a specific rare relic, a bunch of removes, and then a card loop? or one status?
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>>738086573
>7 damage when you have tent
abandon run
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>>738083262
>What if we offered you a run where there were no defense cards in any card reward
>But also no rare cards

Thanks for the carry that was painful I did it to myself when I took enthralled and snecko eye
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I'm now at 5 doorcunt runs in a row, a 0.41% chance.

No, really, I actually do fucking hate the antichrist.
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>>738087505
why, maybe hes a chill guy?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243769563784/76561197997192985

let's play multiplayer and complain loudly
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>>738087505
>megacrit tries to help you beat easymode and get to higher ascensions by giving you the easiest boss
>you complain
can't win with some people
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>>738075464
this is the first time i even realized it was a frog, holy shit
i thought it was just a wiggleball
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>>738087505
nice savescumming
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Had a crazy run where I got the spoils map followed by the membership card which allowed me to buy all the relics out of 2 shops in a row. The lizard didn't stand a chance.
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>>738080485
it makes all status cards in your deck go away and also shits out a bunch of damage, what the fuck else do you want?
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>>738088123
Not even once, gaylord. Focus Disk trivialises Defect runs.
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>>738081628
>makes his point for him by being a faggot
retard
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>>738088126
Oh shit is that a new Anant skin?
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>>738088359
Yep he has skins for Regent, Silent, and Necrobinder now
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is the splash card pool weighted towards big cards or something? i feel like i see the same cards over and over and some of them are fucking huge
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what the chinese fail to realize is that snakebite is actually a doormaker solve
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>>738090345
snakebite isn't part of my ten card infinite sly deck that can't beat doormaker so it's a bad card and doormaker is a bad boss
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bro fuck OFF
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>>738090661
>The Illusion of Choice
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>>738090661
Should have done the calculations for store odds
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>>738089698
Honestly I felt similar. Almost every time I take splash it's pretty dope because I keep getting big attacks and rares. It does feel skewed.
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>>738087906
ggs, more like smoked the spire xd
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>>738090719
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Slay the spire challenge
Win a run without skipping anything
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>>738091927
Baalor sometimes do that
No card skip A10 runs
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Come slay some spires
Beta branch

steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243776803413/76561198065375276
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>>738089698
I've always felt that random card creation is weighted towards better than worse cards. But my real theory is that unlike normal card rewards they simply turned off the downward weighting that gives you shit cards.
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hostan!
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243776803861/76561199486452220
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>>738092182
3/4
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>>738092182
3/4
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>>738092197
Swapping here >>738092182
Second time I've done this today, lol.
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>>738091927
Challenge? That's just how you play the game.
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>>738075464
>phobia filter
I will now not buy your game. Simple as.
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Act 3 Knight Gang are dickheads
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I coom everytime i use hyperbeam
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>>738092427
>afraid of phobia filters
how'd you manage that?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243777632780/76561199214357271
come climb with me. A7 this time
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>>738092476
>takes all your upgrades then hits you for 40+ damage
nothing personnel kid
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Funny run, finally won one with a vakuu relic actually being useful
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Head empty, click Cascade.
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>>738076180
It is great, kills the beenigger erry time
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>>738093497
>five reaps
>no energy
i kneel, facetank god
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>>738080603
Is it just me or does this niggas map art look like one of the chipmunks getting head meme
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>>738093903
they made the two rocks dick shaped on purpose
I know it
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>>738093814
You just hodl
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>>738076180
The fact that it gets status cards in your hand, draw, and discard pile is enough.
All the cards that create statuses are really good. When you turn the downside, that they create status cards, into an upside with things like iteration, smokestack, rocket punch, and trash to treasure you already have a really strong archetype. Flak cannon is just a nice cherry on top to finish fights quicker.
11 per status is a lot of damage.
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>>738093959
To me they look like him holding his thighs up, I always draw on the map the rest of the leg
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>>738093959
the entire game is full of subliminal symbolism pretty cool imo
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>>738093959
>>738093903
>>738094026
>>738094092
you are gay
and thats ok :)
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243779565362/76561197997192985

hosting speedrun lobby, we win in 10 minutes or less
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>>738094138
>you are gay
brother I'm just telling you it's alvin the chipmunk gooshing while getting a blumpkin, not that hard to see
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>>738094219
you're such a retarded fucking faggot it's theodore
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>>738092182
gg, complete ironchad sweep once again
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>>738094361
Another win for 1000 vulnerable stacks
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>>738094361
I fucking love Stone Armor, bros. You never take any damage with Orichalcum.
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4p scaling probably needs an adjustment, even at A10 it's been pretty easy most of the time. Only one person has to break the game to carry the other 3, so odds are always good.
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>>738094470
also all debuffs get 300% value
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>>738094470
Nah, its in a good place
Perhaps buff Defect since it sucks the most in MP. Multiplayer is for fun times. If you want sweaty minmaxing go play singleplayer
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lobbying
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243780334629/76561199486452220
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I started picking that glass + block card over cold snap and ball lightning in act1. Feel like its undervalued. Its also good for synchronize later on
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necrobinder needs a low cost doom card that has the end of days effect of doom instantly activating
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>>738094765
Glass's problem is you need to evoke it quickly because of the decay, which is sometimes hard as an early pick. But I agree, it and the rare power are excellent.
But the attack is unpickably expensive imo
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>>738094792
the doom numbers are all really big to make up for the late kill
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>>738094792
Not really. Doom is already retardedly strong
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>>738095096
>>738095136
doom blow chunks however
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is this caleb gannon guy good? his first videos felt like generic bullshit, but apparently he can A10 streak with all the characters
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The dreaded 0 damage deck.
At least I had some multiplayer cards created by Quasar and Shift.
I got the "applied most debuffs" badge, but this can't be right with Necro on our team.
GG everyone.
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Hostan A8.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243782082067/76561199214357271
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>>738095670
i hate jorbs videos but at least he does talk about flaws in his generalizations and methodology and which gameplay situations that the conclusions are most/least likely to be relevant. caleb just confidently presents absolutely massive generalizations to you and totally ignores all flaws which makes them pretty worthless imo because getting good at this game is all about understanding all the nuance and small things. you cant build a deck according to his dumb cube of power thing or whatever and win.
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I hate this fat fucking NIGGER like you wouldn't believe
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>>738096308
He's unarguably the best of the three, you goober. He's just boring.
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>>738096454
im arguing
you're wrong
suck my grundle
fuck you
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>>738096308
Pael is the safest choices even if they're a bit boring.
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>>738096308
Give me your fat nigger blood.
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>>738096726
Should I quit and rehost for Defect
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brehs
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rehost for defect bro
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243783364664/76561199214357271
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>>738096808
I crashed bros
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>>738096308
pael seems like hed be comfy to bounce on his dick and then cuddle afterwards
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>>738097020
Silent...
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>>738097097
ew i would never want to be a w*man
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>>738094573
rehost
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243783989291/76561199486452220
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got disconnected
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>any 2 0-cost cantrips is literally a guaranteed infinite vs doorlord because he gives you free exhaust
feeling pretty chinese right now bros
stupid boss
stupid mechanics
maybe nothing actually happened at tiananmen square after all
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Holy shit. I finally got to Ascension 9 and this is some bullshit. It's like I don't know how to play at all anymore.
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>>738094470
duos is the real shit
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I exclusively drew my Stoke during the exhaust phase, so I was just kinda stalling the first three door cycles. Would've eaten shit without that Beacon of Hope. GG.
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>>738097273
>soul build
>Test Subject + Doormaker
gg that shit was miserable. Also Mayhem hit Eidolon 2 times during that run in a 40 card shitpile
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>>738098429
Random = bad
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>>738075659
It's just an extremely easy way for troons to gain a sense of moral superiority. I woke be surprised if a single person is actually using it
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>>738097548
act 1 is so much harder to get out of for some characters once you tick over to a9
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>>738097548
You gotta just eat shit sometimes, especially to stop some guys ramping up, like the coral guy
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>>738082078

>>738081628 did, he said "when I die to Doormaker" which implies it happened at least once
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>>738082459
you can get pyramid without cheating it comes from darv
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sorry that voltaic was so powerful it crashed my game.
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Bros, I don't want to do that again.
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Will it ever not be god awful to pick it up?
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>>738099571
okay we don't have to then. gg
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>>738099557
happens to me too
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243786832881/76561199214357271
Replay that Voltaic
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>>738099557
>>738099604
It was a real win in our minds
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Necro not coming back?
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>>738099683
comin
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>>738099595
It's pickable in Act 1. It just straight up wins a lot of annoying early fights like the Gardeners. It is a brick 99% of the time.
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243787012529/76561197997192985

lobby for the willing
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Also shatter was quite mid. won the run but regret picking up.
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Two voltaics. Never got any chance to thin the deck.... then forced to duplicate them.
What a run.
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>>738100091
yeah, saw you get fucked by bad luck a few times
gg. so sleepy.
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>>738100091
GG, epic Voltaics. I wish we got some remove events
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>>738099595
>all of defects other cards give temp focus up now
>this gives permanent focus down still
its the least they could do
cmon
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>>738098526
This is why I won't buy a single game that implements this. Gatekeeping these people is important. You punish dev behavior you want less of and reward dev behavior you want more of.
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A10, or whatever you have unlocked.
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>>738097395
what the hell is a cantrip
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rehost?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243788937199/76561197997192985

rehosting for the frenchman
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>>738100579
2/4. Will embark with 3 after 5 minutes.
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As an intermediate Catastrophe user, I discovered Catastrophe will play all its cards even if it happens to play Void Form first.
Also Catastrophe can only play up to the number of cards in your draw pile, so it does nothing if it is empty. But Catastrophe can play a card that draws, and if the draw reshuffles your draw pile it can continue playing cards.
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>>738101124
3/4!
embarking in 5
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>>738099595
It’s great early on. And great throughout the run if you opt for a non-orb deck.
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I beat with all except Ironclad and Defect, what is the deal, I'm kinda struggling. Prolly cuz it gets harder with the unlocks as well as the chance to get OP as a balance but still.
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>>738101480
A0 or A10?
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>>738101727
A0
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Huh
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Anyone know if Vakuu will end turn if he plays Void Form?
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He should cause it's the effect of this card
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>>738101480
>>738101928
Post a run/your Defect build
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>>738101480
>it gets harder with the unlocks
this has always been the dumbest cope. you are just bad. any change in difficulty due to unlocks is literally negligible compared to your total lack of skill. your singular a0 wins on other characters do not indicate skill at all.
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>>738075464
I prefer it rapey.
https://xcancel.com/timmit0514220/status/2047290874225377394
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I was denied greatness by the 4th orbit being too expensive when i saw it in a shop
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>>738102546
>you beating the game on 3 other characters doesn't mean you got skill in a rogelike card game based on luck
ABSOLUTE REEEETARD
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>>738103083
Did you do damage with cards from Spectrum shift or the orbits let you spam shining strike, or what?
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rehost?
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>>738100579
Rehostan! Because of internet issues...
Come on lads.
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>>738103212
hallways were cleared by lost wisp relic, but bosses yeah pretty much, arsenal helped a bit but it was a slog until i hit a splash or jackpot pretty much
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>>738103083
What's the play style with this compact deck?
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243792584076/76561197997192985

rehosting after crash
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my connection does not like this run
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>>738103329
You forgot the link
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>>738103332
play powers, cry about not finding a radiate or lunar blast
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>>738103329
Ironclad-san. Necro-san, Regent-san!
Please!
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>>738103393
Oh is the link no the same?
Gomen, I still don't know how rehosting works.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243788216449/76561198094567415
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>>738103469
Game doesn't exist, I think you need to copy a new link after refreshing the steam page or something?
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>>738103469
You need to switch to the community tab, then back to user name tab to refresh.
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>>738103469
yeah using the old link yields "This game no longer exists"

Also the link you posted yields the same error message. I think you need to refresh your steam profile or something? I've never hosted either
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>>738103469
>>738103545
>>738103559
>>738103562
Alright
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243793080560/76561198094567415
Come on lads.
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slimmm im gonnna sliiiiimmm
is that a shop? im gonna sliiiiiiim my deck down
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>>738099595
every big aoe is pickable for act 1
but i hate this card with a passion, please rework this shit, i don't want to see it in any of my runs
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>>738103716
>2 costs to exhaust your shitter cards away
Why is this bad?
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>>738104026
because it costs 2 while doing nothing else and leaves you with an empty hand
the 9 exhaust intangible doesn't count
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>>738102074
Yes, it ends the turn.
>>738099595
if you're hard committed to a claw deck it's great
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GG
Wasn't expecting Damage Leader as the Dying Star Regent with 1 hp for most of the run
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E-FUCKING-Z!
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>>738104026
Because it's slow as fuck and necro already has a billion other ways to cycle their deck with souls, etc. It's just outclassed by Purity most of the time, which is both free and has retain.
It does nothing for you early in the run, and is either redundant because you've removed most of your shit cards, or just outclassed by other cards later in the run.
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GG, weird game. I think attacks that hit more than 1 enemy pump up damage numbers.
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Well, that was fucking easy
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>>738076112
I have never lost to either lmao
Jaxfruit has like 30 hp and doesnt appear early if you struggle with thst its purely a skill issue
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This has got to be the most busted multiplayer card. Just get it and only get block cards and you always win.
GG. I thought Stoke was useless, but its kinda fun to use.
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>>738103716
got it in yesterday's daily, it made Ashen Strike hit like a truck but I still lost to act 2 boss
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>>738104076
It's great if you clone Call of the Void :)
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>>738076112
I thought I was the only one that struggled against these two fuckers. They seem mild at first, but they're strangely dangerous.
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>>738104353
The upgrade giving it innate is what makes it so busted.
Good in hallways, elites, bosses. Busted busted busted
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>>738103631
Well played lads. Seems like we got all the crazy multiplayer cards. What a clean sweep.

Debilitate+Flanking/Knockdown is really something else. Even I could chip in for some damage when that happened.

>>738104301
Does the double boss at the end count towards the badge? As in, does the "4 damageless bosses" badge exist? I feel like one of us would have gotten that considering how the run went.

>>738104353
I love how the upgrade for that card is innate. Make the busted card consistent? Sure why not
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>>738104651
>As in, does the "4 damageless bosses" badge exist?
There's currently no badge for that according to the wiki.
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is snecko eye OP?
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>>738104827
No, it's only useful to play cost >=3 cards, which are not that useful in this game
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>>738104651
Actually, now that I'm remembering it. I was so flabbergasted when I noticed you actually took Fiddle as Silent. Was there really no better choice lmao
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>>738104886
I had no draw cards so it was whatever.
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>>738104881
idk its kinda stompin
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>>738104651
Wasn't in your run but I can confirm that 4 damageless doesn't exist.
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>>738104801
Should have known the wiki had what I seeked. Thanks anon

>>738104827
You tell me if drawing two extra cards every (every) turn is strong or not. Not a fit for every deck, but it can definitely pop off in the right ones.
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>>738105013
I spot an X card that might be the real ace card of that deck which I didn't consider, nice
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>>738105091
Oh cool, thanks for the visual. I guess that confirms it. That must have been a crazy run
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>play Snecko Oil
>what feels like 90% of the time, the cards are mostly 3 cost
What the fuck is this meme ass potion? How is this shit even possible? What are the chances they turn up to 3 that many times?
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>>738105363
it's a uniform distribution between 0 and 3 so you can compute the chances yourself
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>>738105412
just make it cost 1.5 and be done with it.
i dont care if it might make that 2 cost a 0 cost sometimes.
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>>738105105
the two extra cards is so huge. even with all my starters in the deck i still draw everything i need.
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why is drawing good? what if I draw a card I need for later and now I can't use it anymore? I don't understand that with cards like pommel strike, glow, and coolheaded.
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>>738106269
your deck has cards you don't want to play, so if you draw more cards per turn, you're more likely to be able to play all good cards each turn. you also cycle through your deck faster so you can replay your very best key cards more times per fight.
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>>738106269
Not all cards are created equally, and some cards are better played in certain situations like you said. But drawing cards gives you more potential choices to choose from. If you're digging for something specific then yeah you have to factor in the size of your draw pile and the chance of actually hitting it, as well as the energy cost to play out the rest of your turn, but more choices is that good in basically any card game.
This is why Runic Pyramid is so good by the way, since you don't discard at the end of your turn anymore you can afford to wait for a better opportunity to play certain cards. You do want some self exhaust to get rid of status cards, or just a bunch of extra energy to empty your hand enough to start cycling some cards in your deck again though.
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>>738106269
What that other anon said. It gives you more options if you play it first, and cycles your good cards back faster. But it's always good practice to check what's left in your draw pile. Like if you know the enemy is going to be attacking next turn and there's only attacks left in your draw pile, it can be worth drawing even if it doesn't do anything for you this turn so you reshuffle and don't get bricked next turn.
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this was certainly a run
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243798678120/76561197997192985

one more quick lobby, in and out of the spire
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diamond diadem is also a stupidly op boss relic. just play two dense cards per turn and take no damage ever.
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fuck i suck at this game. i only win when i get op stuff
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I wanna play multiplayer but i'm too fucking slow, the lobbies are always full fuck me
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>>738107901
Let me restart steam and I will host one just for (You)
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steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243800455036/76561198035835677
>>738107901
Then join this one
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>>738096308
Clone is FUN
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bad luck? not today
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>>738108058
wtf, I never pick clone, looks like a free win with the right card
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I want to make a visual mod for one of the characters but I have no fucking clue where to start
Do visual replacements require the base lib stuff or not?
Are the character visuals and textures saved in some encrypted mumbo jumbo file bullshit or are there just simple .png's and shit that I can edit and all the changes are immediate as long as the game reads the filenames?
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>>738108352
i thought it only made singular copies of the card you wanted to clone, but apparently it keeps doubling them infinitely, so you get 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 124 etc. cards
people have made videos where they just go 9999999999 block and then body slam, immediately killing the door from its initial invincibility phase
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>>738108439
Everything in this game is a fucking .dll bro. It's all compressed. There's probably tutorials on the Steam Workshop for 1 that still work.
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After some recalibration to my macro and my drafting patterns no yeah Xecnar is right, Defect's status cards are all really good
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>>738108439
Doubt anyone here knows. Try asking the discord. There's a pretty good chance that there's already a rundown on how to do it already buried somewhere in the modding channel.
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>Carefully plan each of my moves
>Lose a 1 and a half hour run from one misclick
This game is actually worse than league of legends.
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>>738075464
WIGGLY
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>>738108974
*clicks save and quit*
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I've still only gotten one clone run, and it was flash of steel. Then early on in act2 I got bing bong. But was multiplayer so I got outvoted in act 3 and got steered away from 2 campfires at the end.
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>>738106967
Waiter! Waiter! More DEX please!
...still wish I had a real copy of Knife Trap
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GG EZ spire sisters.
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>>738108034
gg
>third last turn Test Subject is hitting me for 67 for some fucking reason
>oh yeah Mayhem played Intercept that generated off of Spectrum Shift
>Triple Sovereign Blade + Parry blocked for like 100 anyways
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>>738108034
pretty easy, Failed to get big damage payoff but had solid debuff and helper cards at least
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>>738108034
I felt like I did mediocre, though lighter + vigor enchant on Helix Drill did do nice numbers but only once
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gg my herd of knife throwing goats
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>>738106967
GG
I feel like I did a whole lot of nothing in the run. Lizard Tail is also wasted on me, probably much more useful on anyone else.
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>>738106967
>>738109108
>"quick lobby"
>proceeds to take 1hr20
GGs Silentsisters and Ironchad. Hope you take my ending Intercept save as compensation for my boring ass stalling gameplay. Apologies to the other Silent I couldn't save.
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>Silent and Ironclad get personally fellated by the ancient with their basic card upgrades
>Necrobinder goes from 6 to 10 damage on the Osty slap and Osty's max HP rather than current HP
IT'S UNFAIR OSTY SHOULD BE JERKING ME OFF CHINA ATTACK
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>>738110405
>JERKING ME OFF CHINA ATTACK
How much does that hit for?
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>>738110484
tiny pp, tiny damage
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>>738080920
The character is orchis. It is a chinese mod use at your own risk.
https://files.catbox.moe/khpdwe.7z
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>>738075464
Can someone redpill me on temporary boss relics? How will any of those help you in Act 3?
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>>738110586
>Toy Box
I hear that with some wax relics, you keep their effects even after they melt away. One example is Potion Belt.
>Pumpkin Candle
Helps you have an easier Act 2 if you seriously need the energy to get by for whatever reason
>Golden Compass
If your map gen sucks ass for Act 2, Compass guarantees a good path
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>>738110586
Ideally it gives a power boost in act 2 allowing you to fight more elites.
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>>738110586
You can pick the order wax relics will melt and you can often keep 1 or 2 all the way to the end of Act 3
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>>738110586
>>738110686
Golden Compass guarantees an extra treasure(relic) and rest site, extending your run from 49 to 51 floors. I've also been told that the unknown points are guaranteed events, no Juzu needed.

Otherwise, I think MegaCrit is trying to focus on not positively awarding free passive energy, gotta set up your deck and work for that shit to last in act 3 (and 4 when it's here). The only exception is Very Hot Cocoa, which is honestly a very busted relic to set up your turn one
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>>738110686
I don't think you would pick Golden Compass for that reason. You will always have a rough time in really high ascensions and it requires careful planning to route through it. And if you die then it means you weren't strong to make it to the end. It is what it is.

>>738110717
>>738110751
So you are working hard to collect more relics to make up for the fact that you picked a boss relic that makes it easier for you to do it, rather than just having the option to pick a good boss relic to begin with.
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>>738111024
I don't usually take the temporary stuff I was just explaining the actual use case
I'd like the wax relics if you got a preview of what they were instead of random bullshit since so many relics can be crap
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I have never taken wax relics
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>>738111787
>The humble save and quit
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>>738111787
>>738112154
What if they changed the wax relics so that they do nothing at first but unlock after 3 combats? maybe after every elite combat?
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>>738108439
It's basically the latter because Godot is open source. I forgot what the tool is called, but you can just crack open the game and open it in the editor then export as a plugin to get the mod stuff as a pck file.
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>>738112489
I think wax relics are fiiiiine, I’m just never going to pick it or pumpkin
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Double boss without pantograph or a completely broken deck just blows.
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>>738113557
just lost a run on the 2nd boss because 1st boss was doorman
the issue wasn't his special effects it was that he swings for 30+ every fucking turn
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>>738113631
That just happened to me too. Doormaker was my 2nd boss and I had to survive on 30 HP and a deck mostly filled with attacks.
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>every elite you kill in an act buffs future elites that act
Here, pro players complained that game is too easy, now try killing 3+ elites now
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>>738112169
>the humble just fucking cheat bro
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>>738113881
You want to a preview. Save and quitting offers a preview. There's no functional difference.
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>>738113881
Toy box should preview what relics are going to be offered
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>>738113824
huh?
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>>738114289
You can Save & Quit for some "rewards" relics.
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>>738113824
The game is too easy in that act 2 and act 3 are shit.
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>>738113557
I just play A9 cause I don't wanna deal with the double bosses
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>>738114457
Best players hunt 3-5 elites in act 1 that lets them snowball easily with relics, gold and rare cards, main reason why they have 95% winrate. Make this playstyle more dangerous dropping their power level for act 2-3 and thus making game harder
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>>738114606
Elites are hardest in act 1 and easiest in act 2, 3
the hell are you on about
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>>738114606
>they have a 95% winrate
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>>738114606
This is a midwit post. Rares aren't even good and the best players can still win without elites.
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>>738114606
Best players hunt 3-5 elites in act1 *IF THEY CAN*. They'are not going to suicide themself into floor 7 elite if their Neow x2 transform basics into Monarch's Gaze + Prophesize.
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The humble enchanted Peck+ with miniature canon and some vigor.
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>>738115016
you're really are a midtwit yourself lmao.
>best players can still win without elites.
none is talking about "can" win, we're talking about winning 30 games in a row without problem, the only way you can guarantee winrate such high is maximizing rare drops, relics and gold.
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>>738114704
>Milipede
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Enemy encounters in ? are gay.
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>>738116054
deserved correction for not eating the eggs
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>>738116054
>coat
deserved
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>>738116054
Losing by 1 means you were just bad at math. Sorry to let you know this anon.
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Driftwood with Prayer Wheel, Electric Shrymp on Glow+ or Quasar+ or Glitterstream, or Touch? Feels like Touch is just worse than Shrymp Glow+ even with Radiate in the deck. I'm not sure I'm responsible enough to handle Driftwood Prayer Wheel without ending up with 50 cards
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Anything here *fun* to clone? I don't see it. Colossus or impervious might be good though.
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>>738117479
show deck
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Love when this happens
>Potion seller, I need your strongest potions
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>>738117639
unless you get Stone Armor, Havoc or Perfected Strike there's nothing to clone on Ironclad
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>>738117717
Cascade clone could go hard too
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>>738117639
Impervious probably
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>>738117645
Y-you first
On that note what's the consensus on adding more than one Astral pulse? Feels clunky to me especially when only one is upgraded
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>>738117871
shrimp on glitterstream is probably pretty good
kind of like having Anchor and Horn Cleat
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>>738117871
it's funny how shrimp on Glow is stronger than Divine Destiny
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At least I got this little medal.
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>>738117871
All the top players I've seen do just fine with one Astral pulse so I assume that.
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>>738117871
Astral Pulse is kind of like Sow. It's a solution card in Act 1 but after that you don't really like it to stay in the deck. Unlike Sow though Astral Pulse doesn't even have Retain so it will fuck up your future draws. I find that past Act 1 it's usually one of the cards I'm transforming away.
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>>738118382
even though every act has multi-enemy elites and it costs 0 energy?
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What a slog.
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>>738118447
Why are you omitting the 3-star cost? The reason why it's good in Act 1 especially, is because Regent starts with 3 stars and the card can / is close to oneshotting most AoE encounters if you have good draw order or strategically hold off on using Falling Star. Past Act 1, its numbers aren't very impressive for the cost and it keeps getting reshuffled back into your draw pile unlike Sow.
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>>738118915
It’s still good into milipede or scrolls
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>>738120758
It's okay against them, but by then you usually have better options
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>>738120845
Let’s say you have marbles relic, what will be better than Astral pulse against scrolls
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Does this work?
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>>738121535
Yup
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What a run
Friggin love Prismatic Gem
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>>738121598
*Now* it's going to really work
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Maybe it's obvious but how does nimble work on cards like this? Will this always block 2 even if it does 0 damage?
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>>738122250
Correct.
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>>738122217
was he always that smug?
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>>738118915
>Why are you omitting the 3-star cost?
there are multiple ways star cost can become a complete non-factor by act 3
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>>738122217
I feel like Sere Talon is underrated.
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>>738122419
It's an instant pick if your deck has any sort of powerful combo IMO
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Doorbros.... not like this.
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>>738122419
>gives you normality and greed
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Silent is the most boring character
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>>738122385
>>738121048
>Assuming optimal relics, cards, and draw order for a card that falls off by midgame
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I can't possibly lose this now, right?
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>>738122842
You'll find a way.
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Are these games trans coded? They kinda strike me that way but I don't actually know what that means.
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>New event idea
You get a buff of some kind
OR
Your next ancient has an extra option
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>>738122798
I aint assuming shit, jack
It's an Act 1 solver that is perfectly useful in acts 2 and 3, to the point I am arguing it's a waste to remove/transform it.

If Astral Pulse is really your best remove/transform option you are in some kind of god run
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>>738122842
>those relics
FIGHT THE ELITES AS WAS DESTINED BY THE STARS YOU FUCKING BRAAAAAAAAAAAATT
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>>738122798
>wow, having common relic that you will see every second run? Impossible
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>>738122902
I have a good eye for that and I wouldn't say so.
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>>738122902
Every indie game is trans coded
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>>738122964
Is that because you're trans?
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>>738122908
Oh no anon, I mean transforming in combat, with cards like Charge Begone Guards Entropy. I'm not gonna remove it in events / shops unless I'm like super fucking lucky with events.

Typically I'll transform away the leftover Strikes and Defends, then Astral Pulse. If I have Fasten then Astral Pulse gets transformed after the Strikes.
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Finally, a Scrollbox Claw run. Using the Cookie to upgrade the 3 Claws was worth it.

>>738122918
The relic only works on turn 1 so you need to also draw Astral Pulse on turn 1, silly.
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>>738123018
fair enough
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>>738122987
No
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>>738090345
GigaJorbs forever dabbing on JapaneseSoiport
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>>738123113
Damn, I was going to ask you to be my gf.
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I have time to host 2 lobbies. Hostin EU all are welcome starting only after we hit 4/4
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243830364280/76561198047008744
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Frond with 7 slots rules.
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>>738123218
I don't like Jorbs but his takes are definitely better than that yellow faggot.
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>Play Regent
>Pick four of this
>Literally cannot lose
That shrimple
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>>738123305
I feel so vindicated for saying this was the best Block Power on Regent at launch when everyone was shitting their pants over Child of Stars.

Nowadays, Danse Macabre feels like this for Necro. Spirit of Ash is theoretically "easier" to build but that's a rare.
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why am i fighting 2x mytes in the easy pool
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>>738096308
>he isn't oopy goopymaxxing
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>>738123264
3/4
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>>738123264
3/4
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>>738123376
Your seed myte be bugged.
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>>738099595
Pick up probably not
Transforming into goybeam on f1 however is very good
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>>738123090
>The relic only works on turn 1 so you need to also draw Astral Pulse on turn 1, silly.
yeah, to counter scrolls you need to draw counter on turn one. Can you please enlighten me on cards that solve scrolls that you don't draw on turn 1?
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>>738123440
CARLOOOOOOOOOOOS
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>>738123372
Yeah, same and also I was a big Quasar defender since day 1 and now it's consdiered a great card.
Child of Stars is still giga good but the best part about card creation is that so often it requires no setup, just paying energy, where star management can get a bit odd if you have a lot of big spenders.
And danse macabre was super shit on release but borrowed time rework and the buff have elevated it to almost insta pick tier for me. If I have one borrowed time or one transfigurate or anything like that I'm clicking on every danse macabre I see.
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Foreshadowing?
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>>738123451
I'll be honest, I tend to skip Child of the Stars half of the time nowadays, especially if I already have Pillar. It doesn't block enough without the mega synergy cards imo. Every time I try to take Child when I already have Pillar, it usually ended up contributing very little, if at all.
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>>738123446
Block cards.
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>>738076180
It doubles as cleaning your deck of trash and is always useful in a deck that likes statuses

Getting it early in a deck cycle is the only downside possible. You have overclock, turbo and free block that suddenly have zero downside, allowing you insane tempo turns
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>>738123552
Pillar being 3(4) and Child of Stars being 2(3) also makes it feel worse unupgraded.
Pillar triggering on card transform with (now) the three transform cards being super strong also helps. BEGONE! being absolute dogshit didn't help pillar on release. But old CHARGE!! was super broken to balance it out I guess.
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>>738076180
It does enough in specific fights, a bit underwhelming in regular fights (talking about boss / Elite fights here clearly). It's no Ashen Strike that's for sure.
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I didn't have enough damage for Three Stages of Fag.
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>>738096512
Can't go wrong with orobas. Primal cards are good, getting your pick of rares from other classes is great, electric shrimp can be insane etc etc

Does he have bad options?
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>>738123774
Begone was pretty bad on release yeah but Collision Course was the actual common card pick for Pillar anyways, but they decided to buff that one also for some curious reason. Old Charge was a lot better than new Charge I agree. If Dive Bombs didn't cost 1-energy launch!Begone would've been an okay card I think. It'd have been a Collision Course with slightly more damage that forces you to spend the 1 energy in exchange for transforming a bad card on your hand.

I'm glad they swapped the effects of Begone and Charge, though. Draw 1 now and potentially getting two respectable 0-cost damage cards next turn feel pretty good.
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Pael is my least favourite act 2 ancient.
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>>738117479
Driftwood every time.

You can reroll aggressively for cool cards like big bang. Literally double the chances (probably not double but raised)

One of these choices will make your deck grow strongly in act2

If you had decisions, decisions you could go shrimp
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>>738123618
You can play both since astral pulse is zero energy
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Anyone managed to make Accelerant pop off yet?
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>>738124301
In what way? I've had runs where it's been excellent in conjunction with ordinary poison applicators like Snakebite and Bouncing Flask. It doesn't take much for it to incredible.
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>>738124301
What kinda question is that
Its the poison payoff.
If your deck has poison its going to rape things. If not, its a brick
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This goddamn thing almost killed my self hate ironclad run!
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>>738124083
Same but he has some of the best relics
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>Why yes I would like to take 120 damage what could go wrong
Me for some reason
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I'll never pick Haze again.
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Does Juggernaut work with frost orbs the way I think it does?
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>>738125873
It should, since there is no wording "when gaining block from a card" or whatever
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>>738125873
Yeah it does, I've gotten it before
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gg 3 rage and the machine
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>fag lizard kept dodging my 10+ hit Tear Asunder
Kinda fucked up that Queen fight should have held onto a Dominate for second/third cycle, gg though
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>>738123264
ggs boys. I got nothing aggressive so my entire plan was to build super scaling for the last 2 bosses incase anything goes wrong
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>defect with intangible keeps playing skills on Test Subject
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>>738126051
I was mad at first defect got 2 people killed but quickly realized he was right to do it
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How do good players approach act 2? Do they take several elites or just when they've got Decimillipede sorted?
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>>738126051
I sacrificed my life to get 3rd molten fist out of discovery
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>>738126095
>>738126109
if i got you killed i apologise for it but you have to understand from my pov i honestly didnt know my skills would scale your side of the experiment and second there was no way to lose after the first phase was over
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>>738126120
I'm not a good player but I ?-max because Colorful Philosophers is FUN
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>it says 1 damage on my machine
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who installed Silents brain into tin can?
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>>738126234
i havent played multiplayer enough to know all its mechanics sue me anon.
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Sts2 defect is actually so much easier than sts defect.
thats why I like him
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>NOOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE FLAK CANNON!!! YOU AREN'T PLAYING A STATUS DECK!!!

lmao faggot
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>>738122710
Nice, how did you make it so big?
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>>738126165
Yeah that first turn vuln application was nuts, lucked out with a double dominate in my first draw ontop of that as well
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>>738126439
and yeah, you should have held dominate against queen, we had no damage outside your STR scaling and had 4 molten fists between us. It's insane how shitty discoveries were, I had two shrimp imbued discoveries and they barely gave me anything useful against gauntlet
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>>738126051
Peck, my beloved
I'll be taking it every time on 'clad if I don't already have a bludgeon for the event
Carried my first A10 win with a solid strength stacking
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I think what's worst if Clad had Beacon instead of Tank we would have won easily. Writing another F2 about how shitty that card is
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Need 3 more Clads to kill stat
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243830364280/76561198047008744
all are welcome
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>>738126680
>get delivered Tank+, Immovable+, 2 Soul Offerings, Evil Eye, and 2 Blood Walls all in Act 1
>it only barely works because people were mending me
>doesn't work at all when Queen starts swinging for 90 then 120
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>>738126726
still 1/4
game wont start until 4/4 join up
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>>738126726
Is it beta or normal branch? Says it doesn't exist
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Hosting again Beta

steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775243840384798/76561198047008744
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>>738126726
can't join
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>>738126985
ok, I'm in.
3/4
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>>738126985
>>738126726
3/4
Need one more brave soul
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Come on boys someone step up and fill this lobby up
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Queen was utterly trivial. Her pet isn't remotely threatening, letting me set up a ton of darkness orbs. She lasted 2 turns once I got to her. Armaments+ was once again there to remind us all that Ironclad has the strongest card pool in the game.

This deck could not have beaten Doormaker or come particularly close.
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Thank you Vakuu
Turns out all I needed to make my deck get through with no scaling was 6 turns of intangible.
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>>738127245
why build it then?
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>>738127924
Why do those decks exist at all if you're not supposed to build them?
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I'd like to stop seeing the "wins" of "people" playing below a10
Your opinion is irrelevant



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