All the gacha games are becoming so expensive and predatory now.
>becoming
>becomingStupid fucking nigger
>>738076940>>738076973wasn't this bad
>now
out of 10!
Stop fucking rolling for everything and pick your damn favorites then.
>>738076783once human really opened my eyes to how retarded asian people are when it comes to RNG lottery micro transaction boxes.They're ok with dropping 1000+ a month on literal virtual clothes that don't even look good.
>>738077049It used to be worse. Look up "comp gacha"
last time I spent money on a gacha was FE Heroes back in 2017.
Gacha games always felt like a scam to me
>>738076783they're only $5 a month for me
>>738076783The market is so oversaturated that in order to keep increasing profits, they have to do this shit or they'll fail to show growth in a quarter and investors will have their heads.
>money extractor genre wants to extract more moneyWho would've thought!
>>738076783>now.
It has become MUCH better over time, but the gacha system is still cancer.
>>738076783But they are free
>>738076783Gacha games and other gaas are concentrated experiences of games -- the most addicting and pleasurable qualities of games are magnified to absurd levels. These games were engineered to make you spend as much time as possible on them. The purpose behind it all... the message... the art... Everything was stripped away to make more room for the base qualities of video games. It cannot be overstated how damaging this is to the medium -- gaas devs are in a race to the bottom to see how much time they can make someone spend rather than how much enjoyment they can provide. Or what story they want to tell. Or anything other than meeting their next quota. Stay away from gaas.
>>738077049You are just tired of gambling
the thing that bothers me about anime and everything anime adjacent is how all the girls have the exact same faces and then differences are mostly expressed with completely ridiculous hair and eye color and accessories and clothing, its so fucking stupid lmao>>738082281>Gacha games and other gaas are concentrated experiences of games>The purpose behind it all... the message... the art... Everything was stripped away to make more room for the base qualities of video games. it sounds like you are praising them
>>738076783Just play Limbus Company.>season pass is $20 and lasts for 6-8 months>you can get every unit in the game by playing the game>no fomo>very generous events>actually good>dailies take 5 minutes
>nowlmao
>>738082717They are popular for a reason. The artificial progression, the meaningless improvement, the fake socialization, gambling/random rewards, sex appeal, and the illusion of a tight-knit community thanks to the internet all combine to make everything about gacha games appealing -- like a highly-processed, shelf-stable, mass-produced bag of chips.
>>738082717He worded it awkwardly, but the point is there. Gacha delivers concentrated pleasure in doled out proportions. In abundance at first, showering you with free currency, then it suddenly stops to force a withdrawal, to get the player to continue the rush by spending money. Drug dealers operate on the same principle, first dose for free, then they'll be crawling back for more no matter the cost. Pretty sure online casinos also give you some free rolls when you start. Everything about gacha is a carefully crafted psychological manipulation with decades of experience and market research behind it.
>>738076783i think i've spent like $20 total on trickcal in 6 months and kept up, same for limbus, half the fun is in managing resources well enough to still compete against the guy throwing 80% of his paycheck at the game
>>738076783>becomingnothing has changed, you are simply in the 'realization' stage of a gambler when you understand you've been wasting insane amounts of money for no reasonyou were psychologically manipulated and now it's wearing off a little
Gacha games are proof you can get away with EA-tier jewery as long as you dress it up with enough anime girls
I've never paid a single dollar for a gacha game and I've been playing them for two years
>>738086467>Translation: I spent two years of my finite life playing gacha games. I won't spend money out of principle, but I have essentially done hundreds (thousands) of hours of meaningless labor for an artificial sense of fulfillment.
>>738087763>I have essentially done hundreds (thousands) of hours of meaningless labor for an artificial sense of fulfillment.Now explain how this doesn’t apply to all games.
>>738076783>nowFGO is 11 years old
Anyone who plays gachaslop should be castrated and have their genitals fed to dogs.
>>738076783wut?I assume you didn't play any gachas before Genshin. Shit used to be way worse.
aren't gacha games gambling games? isn't the point of them to extract money from retar- people?
Gachafags actually talking about the games is so fucking depressing. It's like listening to a meth addict justify his habit and blame his dealer for everything.
>>738076783>now
>eating lunch with co-workers>the single asian dude on the team confesses he has a gacha addiction>ask him how much he figures he spent on them>apparently its several thousand>everyone at the table is barely making ends meet as is
>>738076783>becoming>>738077049>wasn't>>738087956the major difference is that real games aren't designed with indentured servitude in mind, you can pick up and play them whenever you like and however you like, unlike fomoslop
>>738084049what even is the pleasure gamblers get? like i understand the allure of potentially winning, but do you just have to be stupid enough to think you stand a chance of leaving with more than you started with? playing games designed and engineered by the people you're giving money to? (over the entire time you gamble, not just any individual session)and can you even actually win money in these gacha games? i thought it was all just in-game stuff, like gambling but without even the potential to win anything tangible, as if being a loser wasn't enough, you've begun to derive pleasure from losing even harder or something
>>738089518There have been some pretty good studies into gambling addiction which enlighten non-addicts into what the high is of gambling. See gambling addicts don't have radically different brain activity when winning or losing, instead the brain lights up like a Christmas tree when doing any form of gambling even when they lose everything. The act of gambling is the high, not winning big.
>>738087956Some games are made to convey a story that imparts a valuable message to you -- video games as art. Many teach basic important lessons like standing strong through adversity or finding meaning/personal strength.You eat excessive amounts of pastries when you should be eating a variety of foods of a sensible quantity. You are not a bad person for being fooled. Please stop.
Soon porn/hentai/fan service will be non-existent. Only way to get it is through OF and gacha. The jews won.
>>738089697that would explain gacha games, it doesn't really explain what exactly is pleasurable about it, though i suppose different people find different things pleasurablequotes like op's suggest they don't seem to realise what they're even doing though. calling gacha predatory "now" as if that wasn't their reason for existing in the first place
>>738089751>food analogy
>>738087956not him but at the end of the day all video gaming is entertainment, if you're entertained by gambling then that much is similar in that respect, but that doesn't make them the same.in most video games the entertainment comes from things like following the story, testing your motor/reaction skills, etc.in many ways gacha are the opposite of video games, video games reward skill and practice, rather than luck and money
>>738090415I'm right and my analogy is easy for those of western cultures to understand. I win. Have a good day.
>>738076783they're literally the cheapest games (free) with decent quality (3D open world).There are a dime a dozen paid indieshit worse than this
>>738076783You're totally serious aren't you.
>>738076783>nowthe economy being in recession just means people are way less concerned with spending on these games
>>738076783>Gambling simulator for weeb gooners is expensive
>>738076783>becoming>nowHA HA HA HA HA HA!!
>>738076783>expensiveanon...
>>738076783>nowYou are a waste of a human soul.
>>738076783>becoming>now
>>738076783I want to kick gachabrain into a mush
>>738076783>$16+ for a 10-pull>NON-GUARANTEED pity on a banner is 90>Simple math 16x9=$144 freedom dollars for 1(one) (uno) **chance** to get banner unitI cant fucking do this lads.
nigger who the fuck plays gacha? do people really enjoy working for free that bad?
>>738091910All of /vg/ which has many more people than /v/.
>>738091998geez, it's no wonder pretty much all asian developers are moving to live service gacha cancer instead of full one-time-payment games
>>738076783Stop being brown and low IQ for playing gachaGacha aren't gamesYou get what you deserve
>>738091825Then don't! Stop it! Play a better game! There are countless great experiences out there! There are more good games to play than you have weeks to be alive! Pirate the shit out of a bunch of old PlayStation games! Finish that game that you have in your backlog! You could even try GOING OUTSIDE! You might start appreciating better games if you get a healthy dose of GRASS!
>>738077049Nigga FGO was always a shitty scam with rape pity. Wtf are you talking about. I know you're underage too so I'm not sure what your frame of reference is
>>738076783Haven't they all been like this?
>>738076783>is surprised that credit card swiping simulators are all about swiping your credit card lmao
>>738076783
>>738077049It always has been. The fact that pulling a specific banner unit having chances in the single digits or less has always hammered this fact down. That's why people praise shit that actually throws players a bone like 50/50s or Nikke's golden ticket system.
>>738076783>tfw not a retard>tfw can easily resist fomo>tfw realize I'm not dumb enough to enjoy those games
>>738091825Just get them for free and then stop wasting your time with that trash. Also your math doesn't line up with reality at all.
>>738076783>nowGr8 b8
>>738089751>the artistically important video games are the ones without gameplay >no mom, I'm not wasting my time, I'm learning important lessons about standing strongIt would be an insult to the rock if one were to chuck it against your skull.
>nowGenshit shitpact has brain-rotted an entire generation it's not even funny.
>>738076783Suffer. Choke on it. Fuck you.
>>738087956>every game is labor to gachafagsLmao truly the bottom of the barrel insects.
Gacha players should seriously consider gambling addict support groups. It's literal mental illness.
I tried cookie run kingdom and stopped after the first time it asked me for money in exchange for nothing. Fuck that shit.
>>738076783And you deserve nothing better
>>738096849>Also your math doesn't line up with reality at all.Would It help If I said "Worst case" for the 90 pulls, you cheeky fucker?Fine, somewhere between $112-144 (70-90 Soft pity) still FUCKING TERRIBLE. AND THAT'S ONLY ONE COPY
you choose to play the genre of game that specializes in raping your mind with dailies, limited time events, gambling mechanics, grind, and mind numbing wish-fulfilment, then act like you deserve any sympathy when they try to milk your paypiggy teats a little too hard?just kill yourself
>nownow>nownow
>>738076783You have no idea how bad things used to be. Sub 1% rates, UR rarities with like 0.00037% chance to drop, no pity, units locked behind getting top 100 or top 1000 in an event, needing to combine 3 separate units to make 1 unit, etc.You're playing on fucking easy mode. Thank monkeygate for giving you pity in games and making it so games must disclose their gacha rates.
>>738076783>spend $5 for the monthly in ZZZ and GFL2>have every single character I want>have a few dupes/weapons of the ones I really likeIs $10 a month too much?That's less than an MMO subscription.
>>738076783>paying for pngsneck yourself retard
>>738081494lol. Let's say you have been maintaining that rate for the past five years, so since 2021. That means you spent at least $300 dollars on worthless jpeg slots in that time. I'd be willing to bet you spent even more per month in the pandemic years too.
When do we think we'll hit critical gacha fatigue and see the retvrn of mmorpgs?
>pngs>jpgsSame bot responses from 2016 still going strong.
>>738098678is $300 in five years a lot to you?
>>738076783not trickcal tho
>>738077049>wasn't this bad
>>738098951It's a lot to be siphoned out of someone's wallet for absolutely nothing.
>>738076783>becoming>nowThis must a zoomer who doesn't know of a time before gacha mobage
Why don't you play a real game anon
>>738099068>It's a lotget a job loser
>>738091825
>>738099118You're a literal slave loser
>>738091825it's genuinely frightening that you can write this out and not realise how insane you sound
>>738099209>no u
>>738094512that has literally always been their purpose
>>738099118for nothing.
The current situation with Snowbreak makes me glad I never got into gacha. Imagine getting heavily invested in a game like that, only for it to go into maintenance for over a month with no word on when it's coming back.
>>738098753He's not wrong though.
>>738076783Always has been
>>738099403How is it not wrong when every single one of them uses fully modeled and animated 3D character models these days?Please, I would love to hear your explanation on this.
>>738099138>>738099214I dont get these replies. I'm saying I cant do it (and I might quit gacha), because its stupid to waste this much money, it's too expensive. Why are you calling me crazy?
>>738091443A significant time investment is not free
>>738099585you can work it out, i believe in you!
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>>738099585>How is it not wrong when every single one of them uses fully modeled and animated 3D character modelsWrong.
>>738099652I hate the time argument so much>B-B-BUT IF YOU PLAY EVERY SINGLE DAY for 4 HOURS THEN IN A MONTH YOU WILL-...be in the exact same spot as someone who paid $30 in the span of 2 minutes to get the currency you are farming.Like dear god, get a hold of yourself, you have more value than that as a human being.
>>738099998Yeah it's why I usually cheat engine most singleplayer games after completing them once
>>738099652>>738099998Another telling sign of how the average gachakek has absolutely no self-respect whatsoever.
>>738099998>you have more value than that as a human being.No. No these people do not have any value. That's why gacha is so popular here. /v/ anons are worthless.
Not so generous now, huh?
>>738076783>playing gachaLMFAO
>>738076783The sweet release of uninstalling a gacha game.
>>738082281That's the real reason why it is fraud but that wouldn't stand up in court.
>>738082281I remember paying like 60 dollars for Assassins Creed Odyssey. Shit was long, bloated. repeated content, dlc made it a thousand hour game.I remember paying 60 bucks for Pragmata, 6-8 hour game depending on how you play it. Felt like I should have waited on a sale, waste of money.Diablo 4, 70 dollar "play a week or two every 3 months" while they dangle 80+ dollar crossover cosmetics on the shop as well as a battlepass.GaaS are usually free, just do your dailies, get all the free shit, and you'll be fine. Let the whales pay for your content, and pull for characters you like. If you metaslave and pull every character because their on the top of the charts, that's on you.Seems like we should just stay away from games if we're going with games being engineered to keep people on them for profit because "line must go up". Shit we had single player games release with season passes and never got the DLC they were working on because they didn't make expected revenue during their launch.
>Now
>>738076783We need another world war and OP is the reason
>>738103482Sounds like you just enjoy games with repetitive, tedious tasks. You can find plenty of those without enabling predatory garbage.
>>738076783Did you somehow come from the good time line or something?
>>738091825play a gacha that lets you cheat premium currency with memory manipulation
>>738076783Retards who pay for any dlc/mtx should get their rights to withhold money revoked.
