THAT I CANT FOGIV ;__; EYE FOR AN EYE AND THE WORLD GOES BLIND ;______;;;; IM SO SOWWYYYYYY
>>738082445the heroes gotta do some bad shitsusie and ralsei's reaction wouldn't make sense otherwise (kris also doesn't like it, based on the text when checking the shadow crystal in that room)
>>738082445Honestly seems like Ralsei has to die. Why else would the game constantly reinforce the idea that he is uncomfortable getting too close to his friends, and that he believe the lives of darkners don't matter and they only exist to serve lightners? he is telling himself this over and over again so that he has the courage to allow himself to die later. he keeps repeating it cuz it's what he needs to tell himself to move forward>I wouldn't let that happen>Kris wouldn't let it happen>and obviously YOU wouldn't let it happen either....But Susie is wrong. Ralsei is too duty-bound and far too kind, and he WILL sacrifice himself to save others, if it must come to that.
>TO SAVE THE WORLDS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY>THEY MUST FINISH THEIR SCHOOL PROJECT, WITHOUT THE HELP OF RALSEI
>>738082445>>>/vg/ is where "general" threads belong, deltatroon chumps.
>>738083172
Do people really think that Susie is related to Gaster?I can get Ralsei, but Susie? Is it because of the shape of Gaster Blasters?
>>738083719it's just people wanting everything to be connected, even when it doesn't need to be it's the same mindset as asriel knight, really
>>738083719god fucking damn what a shitshow, tried making little cute chibis in my hometown and they were all poorly sabotaged, tried making a little image in an open area with lots of space, someone else drew over me, tried making a big image in a much more open space, mods just deleted the whole thing. of course, I was banned several times throughout. yeah I know just venting.
>>738082775Could also just be that he's well aware of what he is, a tool for the prophecy. So he is trying (and failing) to not get too attached to Susie and Kris to soften the blow for both sides having to say goodbye when all this is over.That being said, he's for sure dying. Not because the prophecy demands it, but because of his selfless nature, trying to protect those he cares for. It will get him killed
>>738083719it's because clam guy was the first to mention her in undertale and he shows up again at the lake in deltarune. susie is the loch ness monster why is why she's associated with the lake, her nose is just straight up the loch ness monster from earthbound
Another day, another lack of update
>>738085558You just have to keep WAITing. We will get news as long as we stay DETERMINED.
>>738082775I think it's the angel (aka Noelle) dying, i'm pretty sure if it was Ralsei, Susie would have told him directly she isn't going to let him die
>>738086110im pretty sure it's susie eating kris' max level soul and becoming the ultimate monster or some chuuni shit like that. susie eating kris is the most heavily foreshadowed shit in the game, kris is an apple (forbidden fruit) she's the devil and she keeps trying to eat him, plus the scene in chapter 4 after they kill the titan and they're both swirling around the soul.
>>738086110I don't really think the final tragedy is x character has to die just because. It has to be something bigger than that.
>>738086368it wouldn't be just because it would be to stop the roaring. imo i think the roaring is gonna be most of the second half of the game, hometown is gonna get yeeted and there's gonna be a timeskip >jockington grows the beard
>>738084991
>>738082445That the heroes will betray and kill Susie. That's why she says Kris and Ralsei won't let that happen and why Ralsei thought being a pacifist would stop it.
>>738082445The final tragedy is that one day there will be no more WAITing left to be doneAfter all, the real Deltarune IS the WAIT we all are doing
>>738082445I'm like 99% sure the ending part of the final line is "must betray".
>>738082445the final tragedy is that you will never ever ever ever EVER ever go to Deltarune and have adventures with your friends in a small town and get a chance to reconnect with that deer girl you used to hang out with and fulfill a prophecy and confront god and get your parents back together and see the new lizard girl feel affection and hope for the first time and reset if you get things wrong. Never ever
>>738086110the angel is already banished by that point in the story, isn't it? so what would be the point in killing it?
>>738082445Susie dies in the prophecy. But she has the power to overwrite the prophecy so it won't end up happening
THE GIRL MUST DIE ON FESTIVAL DAY
Susan en 28mm
>>738087349Man, that looks so good. Nice work anon.
Will she ever reconnect with her sister?
>>738088065The prophecy says yes>THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE
>>738086961Technically yes because it's the final prophecy. But it's really vague what banishing even is. It doesn't seem to be death.
>>738082775Ralsei dying is just too obvious and doesn't explain why he tries so subvert it even before his character delevopment. I can't see Ralsei being this selfish into wanting to avoid his death and not wanting Susie to find out about it no matter what.
>>738083719Susie Gaster feels mostly like a joke, but she is connected to Gastershit. Clam Goner mentions her, says she's the reason Frisk fell into the underground in the large scheme of things, and says the time to meet her is fast approaching in the Switch version. She's definitely not actually related to him, though.
>>738087349Nice work. Fan merch is always cool to see.
>>738082775It would also tie in with the game's now-heavyhanded theme of not being consumed by fictional worlds and living your life in the real world. Although I'm pretty sure this theme is gonna go full-meta and somehow also extend to the Deltarune world acknowledging it's a pre-designed story (i.e. what Gaster/whoeverthefuck inserted you into it at the start) and having to end as well, while Weird Route is about forcing it to continue forever and have no ending.
Is it crazy for me to think that Chara and Frisk are Kris split in to two? Gaster got shattered across time and space after all
>>738082775I think it's that ONE of them has to die, and Ralsei's trying to convince the other party members that it should be him.
is it really all just imagination?I'm waiting for the whole thing to come out but I never really knew this detail
>>738090160I love lolita outfits.
>>738090391
>>738082775Susie holds the White Pen of Fate (Chalk), she's rewriting the ending the prophecy isn't set in stone.It's set in glass, and she already shattered it.
>>738090376The Dark Worlds explicitly are just objects and fantasy brought to life, as Ralsei they're an alternative view to the world. That doesn't mean everything is fake or that it doesn't matter, though.
>>738087349Anon, you really need to get a better camera.
>>738084781The new 8-Bit does say Ralsei will protect Kris no matter the cost. Which is very interesting if you think about Kris's alliance with the Knight and Ralsei’s distaste of the Knight.
>>738082445Rudy is the knight and his existence is ruining the balance of light and dark. The tragedy is he has to accept his death and the consequences that will entail for his family.
>>738090391I love loli!
>>738086729That's a blessing, though. Once Deltarune is done WAITing, we can be free to fully know what it is. People will discuss the ending, the canon ships, AUs will exist once more. It will be glorious.
>>738090460She shattered the glass and marked him for death in the process. The gang will succeed in changing the tragedy, but it will cost Ralsei his life.
>>738090775I refuse.
>>738082445Everyone will forget about Ralsei and there’s nothing the player can do to stop it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1z0DIXzF5E
>>738090886>dr community says it's ok to call ralsei a girl despite the fact that he is a boy and has only ever presented himself as one>but it's one of the worst crimes you can commit if you even suggest that kris might actually be female instead of an genderless blobwhat causes this doublethink?
>>738090876Sorry buddy, but your choices don't matter. Your will means nothing in this world
>>738091098Changing the gender of a non binary person is punching down while changing the gender of a cisgender person is punching up
I'm the only anon here who noticed most deltafags are cucks? There is a entire NTR route for the main protagonist where (YOU) proceed his lesbian childhood friend and yet all kriselle fans somehow forget that completely and are into that.Or people drawing the characters kissing each other while the SOUL watches, when the SOUL is supposed to represent the viewer. Are they delusional? Or are they aware?
but where is HERO_SWORD?
>>738090620Same, fren. Same.
>>738091550Canonically dead. He died when the game turned off.
How are you supposed to deal with the fact that you'll be nearing 30 when Deltarune is finished?
>>738091098Like that other anon said, it's progressive and woke to say Ralsei is trans while it's evil and chuddy to say the humans can have genders. Truly we're the most oppressed.
>>738091201That's Chapter 1 Susie though.
>>738086732Yeah, Kris and Ralsei will betray Susie. Fits with her hatred and fear of traitors as well.
>>738088065She will find out she's the Knight and possibly crash out over it.
>>738082445the game ending
>>73809172540*
>>738091690But we never saw him die.
>>738091725More like 35 nigga. Deltarune is gonna be old enough to drink by the time it's finished.
>>738091919You do if Susie plugs the controller.
>>738089915Isn't that just sink theory?
>>738091725I'm 27 years old.I gave up trying to go back a long time ago.
>>738091804Don't matter. Those very words will hold true for her as well, for every character in fact
>>738092301
>>738082445toby dying before the game is finished
>>738091725But anon... I'm already in my 30s.
>>738092357>Since when were you the one in control?
>>738092393You think he has a dead man's switch to upload the script to the internet in case he dies?
In retrospect the AU idea of Sans/Papyrus being helped by Gaster in thet genocide route is kinda stupid especially in light of DELTARUNE.
>>738093040Yes, but it was really cool and had good music so it's okay.
>>738089915That's technically the sink theory and it's not too crazy. I've been personally thinking about the "Kris is a vessel colored in with care" which technically would mean he's a copy of a pre-existing person like all goners, which would mean it's likely he's a copy of Frisk and Chara in general. But yeah, the idea he was split into Frisk and Chara or vice-versa isn't that crazy.>>738092648I really like this artist desu.
>>738089906Deltarune's theme is that fiction can change the world and real people but you can't live inside it otherwise you ruin everything (the Roaring). Gaster canonically wants to end his story and that's a parallel to Toby wanting to finish his game and changing and touching our lives via Deltarune.
>>738090605I don't think Rudy is that important for the fun gang for Susie to react that way, especially when meeting him is completely optional.
bastard jannies are real relentless today huh>>738082775Ralsei potentially beats Kris in the self hatred olympics; there's no way he'd be scrambling for an entire chapter and break down crying pissing and shitting himself when Susie sees the final prophecy panel. He's always downplayed his own feelings just to appease Lightners, and since Chapter 1 has tried to subvert the tragic fate that Deltarune has in store way before he ever had the idea that he was his own person. If it was just him, he'd be the one comforting Susie when she'd flip the fuck out over one of her newest friends being destined to die. Whatever the final tragedy is, it isn't just about Ralsei dying, if that's what it says happens.
>>738090775I don't think Susie will personally like an ending where Ralsei dies. I think it's either the tragedy is averted or they cope with it. No in-between.
>>738092648I never lost control.You're face to face with the man who sold the World.
>>738088017Thanks. Haven’t painted too many minis at this point. Think Susie marks 12 or 13 at this point. Hoping to keep getting better.>>738089881Only did the paint job. The sculpt came from an Etsy store.>>738090564Still got a good few years on this phone before all the update bloat kills it, so sucks to suck, anon.
>>738091725By thinking that Toby will be on his 40s as a very old dog.
>>738082445An incomplete game
>>738082445Why bother?, we will never know.and whatever is what they believe is the solution, is NOT gonna be what it says in that prophecy, because we never saw it, and we never saw it because Susie destroyed that part.
>>738094278Deltarune being unfinished was a fear I had in the Chapter 1 era but after Toby made it a paid release that's basically impossible to happen.
>>738094557at least we can count this game will have an ending... in 2030 probably, but still will have an ending.the only way it wont is if he dies or something.
>>738094614imagine if toby did die before the final chapter
>>738094557Artist?
>>738094842It's lazy-kun.https://x.com/Lazy_kun__/status/1261652917397778434
>>738094614Even if Toby dies I imagine his team knows the ending and could finish it in his place.
>>738094557>hat's basically impossible to happen.What prevents him from stopping?Personally i think he will only stop if he gets a really strong backlash in any chapter
>>738082445a sequel
>>738082775That line along with them finding his room is empty & he doesn't care about owning any possessions feel like the most major hints toward this. However some part of me also feels like either Susie or Kris are the one fated to kill him somehow. There's of course the potential foreshadowing in the 8bit game with Kris killing both of them to proceed
>>738093952I think Susie knows how much it would hurt Noelle, especially after seeing what her mom is like. I'm pretty sure she's worried about Noelle an heroing...
>>738090886>Ralsei is le girlIs this tranny shit or actually interesting?
>>738095080Lawsuits, probably. We already paid for it so it would be false advertising to not give us all the chapters.
>>738095161anything to avoid acknowledging second hero kris theory
>>738094918tnxDamn, I knew it looked familiar. I really need to recheck all the artists I have saved and download the new pics before their accounts get nuked inexplicably
>>738095161Guys can’t be shy, effeminate, or gay/bi without secretly wanting to be dick-splitters in the mind of degens.
>>738095161why would ralsei be a girl when asriel is a boy and nobody has ever been genderswapped in the serieseven the fucking effeminate ghost that turns into mettaton is clearly a man
>>738095161That's not what the video's theory is abouttldr: Ralsei is an amorphous darkner thing made out of darkness and he always occupies one of the roles because the prophecy has been fulfilled many times before
>>738095305Humans being girls is state secrets. Completely forbidden in a normies.>>738095307I knew about him but I downloaded his images after seeing someone else in the thread post em.
>>738095161I remember when fags were coping that Ralsei was actually a girl when ch1 dropped. Good to see we came full circle
>>738095698That's not bad but I personally don't like cyclical prophecy, it's a bit lame imo and doesn't make much sense with the Lancer and Jockington panels.
>>738094993considering the kind of people in his team, would you really trust them to deliver?
>>738095905If they follow his script to the letter, yes.
>>738094220Still a good paint job, then.
>>738091293People self-insert as Kris and the SOUL simultaneously, ignoring all that.
>>738092393Toby would REFUSE just like his protagonists would.
>>738083719It’s mostly a joke “theory” intentionally to be as stupid and brainrotted as possible. this isn’t GirlKris or Transei. no one’s making elaborate videos explaining how gaster is secretly Susie’s uncle.
>>738082445Kris is reveal to be a boy and he is also a heterosexual conservative
>>738092747He would be dumb if he didn't.
>>738090886>Noelle is le girl>Ralsei is le girl>Kris is le girl>Dess is le girl>Berdly is le girlIs there anyone who ISN’T the girl?
>>738095080>What prevents him from stopping?him hanging around with industry giants
>>738095305Troons being retarded doesn’t magically make your theory smart.
>>738096781Dess because she's trans you evil chuddy.
>>738082445it's just gonna be mother 3 again, travo boby
>>738082445My money’s on Kris killing both Susie and Ralsei
What were they thinking
>>738090886>>738096781Toby actually bothering to make gender an important plot point mindbroke this gay ass fanbase
>>738097067Why does Toby ''Yuritard'' Fox let you dunk on Noelle like this?
>>738096983Sure would be funny to see the fandom trying to cope with their dear dindu nuffin being a murderer in all routes.
>>738097293Because he thinks NTR is funny (it is)
>>738083440apply that to yourselfalso Install gentoo
>>738097293Toby knows the best way to keep people shitposting and thinking about the game is retarded shipping wars, which he feeds into.Genuinely wouldn't be suprised if Deltarune ends with no confirmed couples just to keep the shitposting going forever.
>>738097410If he did that, the chances of certain shippers doxxing him for "queerbaiting" are almost 100%
>>738097293FemKris is secretly real so Krusie is yuri too (raughs)
>>738097554susellesissies...we can only watch
>>738091725>nearing
>>738095305I refuse to accept kris being the girl because that would mean the OG prophecy gang consisted of Kris, the Vessel, and maybe Ralsei which is one of the goofiest things I’ve heard.
>>738091725i've made peace with the fact that i'll be in my early 30's when it's all said and done
>>738097554tumblr…
>>738097293Toby thinks loser nerd girls are moé
>>738090886>>738095698Are people still doing Time Loop theories?What's the evidence supporting a loop after the new chapters? (no I am not watching the video)
>>738098115Susie’s wish of everything repeating over and over again I guess.
>>738097468They think every ship is queer so that's only happening if Susly or Ralsus is canon.
>>738097554The fact that Noelle x Susie is such a bad ship that yurifags would prefer making Kris a girl and shipping him with either Susie or Noelle really makes you wonder why Toby keeps on making Noelle/Susie scenes.
I am of firm belief that while the Sword Route games are representations of the prophecy, thus, the game itself, but the way it's shown in-game is not chronological. But I can't figure out an order either.
explain this girlkrisfag
>>738098691But kris is le nonbinary, XISTERS!!! Famous groomer pedophile shayy said so!
>>738097293he’s a homestuck he knows the power ship baiting. I guarantee you none of these dipshits are going to get together until the very last second purely to wring out as much discussion and arguments as possible
>>738098650>why Toby keeps on making Noelle/Susie scenes.Because it gets his dick hard, next question.
>>738098691krissy has a futa cock, duh.
>>738098691there's more evidence that Kris is a Goner than FemKris evidence at this point
>>738098745Can't be worse than the shit Hussie pulled with Davekat.
>>738098691heroes get points non heroes do notsimple 'as
He's such a fucking pervert
>>738098683I think it's pretty chronological, just about the weird route. Board 1 stumps me, though.>>738098691Monsters vs non-monsters as Toby won't gender Kris.
>>738095160Again, Susie can not even know Rudy in Chapter 4 and gets confused when Kris prays for him if you didn't met him with her.
>>738098994so. is this an actual mistranslation or is that just cope from people that want to pretend toby is pure?
>>738098650Because he likes Susie x Noelle, it's his type.
>>738099125>implying people have ever thought Toby was pureIf you've been on the internet since the early 2000s you can tell faggots from perverts, Toby Fox is a pervert, faggots just like his perversion and don't want to hear it when you try explaining that Toby's "queer representation" is just his sexual perversion speaking.
>>738097839What if it's Vessel, Kris and Asriel instead?
>>738091915
>>738098994This is why he made Frisk and Chara girls in the anniversary stream. Fanart perverted him.
>>738099308for someone so obsessed with chara you post the same 5 pictures a lot, huh
Your pronouns belong to me.
>>738099357>charaI'm obsessed with Chara and Frisk, and didn't the schizos filter list have 20+ images? Do we post the same five images or too many to filter?
>>738099434Dess said this to Kris.
>>738099482>we
>>738092183>>738093531Thanks for letting me know, i'm not too deep into Under/Delta theory autism
>>738099220That’s even dumber
>>738099523Humanfag collective hivemind. All posts ITT are me and my cells
>>738099434
>>738097723This will forever be the ultimate monkeypaw for /v/.
Chipping away at bringing all 3 save files up to speed, been grabbing all the eggs and shadow crystals so far. File 1 is for all recruits, File 2 is for Recruitless Weird Route and File 3 is for stopping Weird Route when obtaining the ThornRing with all possible recruits. If Tobias shadow drops Chapter 5 and I'm greeted with spoilers in the morning I will have the dog's head on a pike
>>738098729Honestly he probably was one of the reasons that got so popular, before Chaoter 2 released non-binaryfags were mostly just a minority.
>>738100185I feel like a recruitless weird route will end bad because you won't have all the free EXP in your town for Noelle to use
>>738091915>It's okay to be gloopy>Good. Stay groovy
>>738082775Im all aboard the Ralsei Titan train at this point. He will die when they close the fountain, it has to happen but he's trying to help them through this until they put him down at the end.
>>738100429How does that work with the new Titan lore that they're just mindless beasts that represent the fear of the dark.
>>738099482nah mate the schizo is retarded but your image pool is pretty small. if you're going to keep shoving the humans into every discussion at least get some new images to post.
>>738099706I mean, the only real replacement is Susie but I was playing Devil's Advocate.
>>738100949My image pool is pretty big, tsundere humanbro, ironically the schizo complained about it. I don't get why you criticize us so much but never join in despite those also being your favorites.
>>738099603No problem. There's too many theories in this fandom so something you think is crazy might not be sometimes. Kris being Frisk and Chara is a mild Chapter 1 theory.
>>738101041 (me)*beforeAnyways I wonder if this is a new form of falseflag since I never see you normally and you post the same five images each time, too.
>>738091915>>738092026>>738092398>>738097764We got a lot of old anons here. What's appealing about Deltarune to someone that should be having wife and kids at that point?
>>738082445i think the final tragedy is that they have to close the bridge between the dark world and the light world. forever. meaning you can never interact with ralsei and friends.
>>738082445Ralsei has to fart out Kris' cum on Susie's face
Is this jew astroturfing his game again, guess life is expen in japan, hope those gooks take him for every penny
>>738098929i mean yeah we already know kris is a gooner
If you do end up having to save one, whom would you?
>>738103140why buddy? or is this a relic of that brief time period where lisa and undertale were 'rivals'
>>738082445This
>>738104798That and she gets put in with the psycho rpg child girlsAlso both games have inspiration to yume nikki and earthbound
>>738098683The Mantle game/Dragon Blazers(?) is clearly significant but it's also a game based on a story based on The Prophecy, and the version we see/play is corrupted specifically to fuck with Kris. Most of the third board in particular feels like things being twisted and taken out of context to fuck with Kris, or outright made up like entering the Shelter. Which isn't to say it's not still significant, but I don't think it should be interpreted as "here's an outline of what's going to happen from now on"It's also unclear how much detail The Prophecy itself goes into about things. Lord of the Hammer and Dragon Blazers are "based on" The Prophecy but that could be a very broad strokes interpretation, just taking the key points of The Prophecy and constructing it into a fantasy narrative and then an RPG.Chapter 3 in particular is a good example of this. In the story and the game it apparently involves the Heroes sailing among islands and maybe exploring an Ice Palace, while what actually happens is the Heroes playing a video game within a TV show recursively based on the events they're supposed to do. And as far as we know, The Prophecy itself doesn't say anything about this, with the only clear reference to Chapter 3 talking about Tenna being attacked.
>>738082445The final tragedy is that Ralsei has to be sacrificed; it isn't that deep.The OTHER final tragedy is that Israel controls the US government.
>>738105504>the hero wields a sword>scarf_hero will do anything to protect hero_swordi'm nooticing
>>738096604>no one’s making elaborate videos explaining how gaster is secretly Susie’s unclei will do it
>>738103886Proceed.
>>738105504Am I the only schizo that thinks the Mantle game is probably based on a romhack Asriel made or something along those lines?
>>738102120>shouldhuh?
>>738106830i think it's supposed to be noelle's cursed copy that spooked her when she was littlehttps://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/
>>738083132Impossible. The world is surely doomed.
what the hell is carol doing with kris?
>>738107436emotional manipulation at the very least
>>738107436Using the Ancient White Woman Arts such as guilt tripping and blackmail
>>738107436Grooming
>>738107907Tbdesu, that sounds more like Dess than Carol
Are you gonna let him die?
>>738103886I'd pick Susie without missing a beat.
