>“I’m in a small meeting with Mr. Iwata and Shigeru Miyamoto… and we are talking about how to best launch the system (Wii) and I said I really think we should pack in Wii Sports. I kid you not. The look that Mr. Miyamoto gave me… Mr. Miyamoto gives me this death stare. Then he says Reggie-san, ‘we don’t give away content for free’. This is were my historical experience with the companies content came in. I instantly retorted, ‘But Mr. Miyamoto, when I bought my SNES, Super Mario came free with that system. So it has been done, but strategically and with thought as a way to drive the business forward.'”Thank you Reggie for giving us zoomers hours of fun.
>>738084181>make a bunch of fun mini games to show off the new system>the primary feature is the multiple paywallslmaoimagine paying 400 bucks for this piece of shitch with switch 1 ports
Wii was a massive success in japan without Wii Sports as a pack in title
>>738084337That thing was made to function as a pack in, what the fuck were they thinking?
>>738084181He's seeing the perfect angle of attack with sinking trust in Mr. Miyamoto after the critic blunder of Mario Galaxy Movie, and he is getting into position to ursurp him.I hope he succeeds.
>>738084181>death starehow could he tell?
>>738084337I bought a gift card of that glorified tech demo for a friend to make fun of him buying a Switch 2. He told me to go fuck myself.
>>738084181"We don't do this because... we just don't, okay?"And yet companies that do not adapt are doomed to fail. Curious.
>>738084181Reggie was a sanity check that Ninty is worse off without. He wouldn't had sold the Switch 2 tutorial separate from the freaking Switch 2.
>>738084380That's because Nintendo has much bigger market share. No way boomers in the West would have bought Wiis without Wii Sports.
Bundles have been a thing until the switch 2 era. That's when Nintendo got greedy. This is the generation Nintendo got greedy. If they really did have that policy they were shit at enforcing it.
>>738084404One of his chins disappeared.
>>738084417Was it worth it?
>>738084391reggie isn't with nintendo any more though
>>738084391you fucking moron
Arigatou, Reggie-sankakoi desu ne...
>>738084386Miyamoto's thinking, that if you give something away for free (1) you don't value the product and most importantly (2) you don't value the team that made it (HUGE at Nintendo)
>>738084463Switch 2 + Mario Kart bundle saves you $30. But Mario Kart shouldn't be $80 to begin with, so...
>>738084181And to think people say NOA doesn't have any impact
>if its not fun, why botherif only his own company had listened to him...
>>738084380the Japanese are insects who worship their corporations, Nintendo could shit in their mouths and they'd pay for it
>>738084391Who’s he ? Reggie ? But he’s out for 7 yrs anon >>738084380Cmon now, sheer countless other releases prove that Japan sales =/= western sales
>>738084602They included demo games on the 3DS that taught the owner how to use it free of charge.
Also Reggie:>DUUUR WHO NEEDS TO LOCALIZE WEEB SHIT DUUURRR
>>738084380They are different markets. Wii Sports was a masterful decision because the Wii was explicitly marketed as a "family console" and had motion controls as it's main selling point. The Wii launch library was like only 2 games, TP and Red Steel, and the rest shitty tie-ins or ports of last gen games.>>738084507>Was it worth it?Kind of. I forced him to activate it and watch me play it. It's 100% a waste of money and a slap in the face by Nintendo.
>>738084181>was clearly the right decision in retrospect>jewyamoto refuses to accept it and proceeds to charge people $10 for a switch 2 tech demo
>>738084602>you don't value the team that made it (HUGE at Nintendo)jap mentality is retarded. the devs don't get a direct cut of the profits, why the fuck would they even care, i'd be stoked to find out that literally everyone who buys a new console is playing the minigame i worked on
>>738084718That was seen as part of the system OS, not separate
>>738084723nobody except pedophiles care about your garbage jrpgs
>>738084825nobody except grandmas care about wii sports
>>738084804Nintendo wants their staff to have pride in what they do, they want them to know that their products are valued and being sold for money and making Nintendo and all its workers richer. And that it was their work that did it. If you give it away for free in Nintendo's mind there's nothing developers can be proud of. They can't conceive of "wow its cool so many people like my work" being enough for a creative.
>>738084907sounds like a cult, I'd be happy with my salary personally
>working with nintendoif only you knew how bad things really are
gameboy came with tetris in the west, didn't it? big reason for its success. even my mom would borrow my gb to play tetris but she didn't care for other games
>>738084893what's wrong with grandmas enjoying a video game?
>>738084946Honestly pretty accurate depiction of most Japanese companies, except Nintendo is a cult that lovebombs you instead of berating you.
>>738084793the switch 2 era so far has proven that theyre just a bunch of greedy niggers like anybody else. all the soul and uniqueness they used to have has long since evaporated. once sakurai is gone there wont be anyone left there thats worth a shit
>>738084459You really think the gamecube did as well in Japan as the PS2?
>>738084982Henk Rogers: "I told him (Minoru Arakawa), if you want little boys to play Game Boy, pack in Mario—but if you want everyone to play Game Boy, pack in Tetris"
>>738084181reggie schooling miyamoto on basic marketing
>>738084723In hindsight I think Reggie was even right about the weebshit, when they get localized the weebs just complain it's woke or whatever. They're a cancerous group best off not bothering with, let them make do with fan translations.
>>738084958More than 70% of employees that have been hired there back in the 1990s are still employed at the company to this fucking day. Obviously there's something they love about the company
>>738084181>Mr. Miyamoto gives me this death stare. Then he says Reggie-san, ‘we don’t give away content for free’.This is why Nintendo is a shit company. Didn't imagine Reggie being the one pillar holding it up.
One day people will wake up and realize Japs have zero business sense
>>738084723>saying this on the same week that yunyun game proved why localization is cancerReggie was too good for us, bros. We didn't know how good he was until he left.
>>738085184the Koreans and Chinese have been kicking their teeth in for about 30 years now, Japs are lucky their soft power is so good
Reggie's my best friend! God I wish I could suck his dick!
>>738084907that doesn't even make sense on their own terms though. when you package a game with a console, the game becomes part of the console's image. this is exactly what happened with wii sports, the devs of the game got to see their work become a cultural icon because of it. it gave them MORE to be proud of than if it was some $20 gimmick game that no one bought because what the fuck this isn't mario
>>738085067And then he schooled himself with the wii u and 3DS which flopped out of the gate with one not recovering.
>>738084181>This is were my historical experience with the companieswtf is this ESL garbage
>>738085353It's literally a one letter typo you sperg. "This is where". Calm down.
>sold the most units>somehow ended up completely irrelevantlmfao the wii is the shovelware king
>>738085448it has a lot of underrated games
>>738084417>to make fun of him buying a Switch 2why would you do that? can't you be happy with your friend that you too can now play more games together?
>>738085442>the companies>the COMPANIESTHE COMPANY'S YOU RETARD
>immediately 55 poststotally organic thread.
>>738084678>what is the Wii U>what is the 3DS before they lowered the price
>>738085325Exactly. But Japanese businessmen don't think like this.
>>738085537Japan was like the only place where the Wii U sold kinda okayish
>>738085536this is unironically some sort of false flag advertisement shitfuck this gay earth
>>738084463The Switch 1 was not bundled with any game nigger, there wasn't even a BotW bundle
>>738085586AHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA
>>738085184I don't think that's necessarily the case. If you want to sell in foreign markets, it makes sense to have a foreign sales team.
>>738085586No lmao
>>738085536no nintendo thread on this board is ever organic, been this way for decades
>>738084181HOW DAAAAAARE FIRTHY GAIJIN DEFY GRORIOUS MIYAMOTO-SAMA?!!???!!! KIRR ARR GAIJIN!!!!!!!!! ARR GAIJIN MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
>>738084723He tried to stop Xenoblade faggotry before it metastasized. He was based.
>>738085639stop trying to armchair about things you do not understand
>>738084678>Japanese cosplay friend I knew for 4 years saw that I was playing dolphin on discord>Went on a tirade about how westerners are all disrespectful thieves and blocked me
Reggie stole the idea for the Bigfoot Pizza
why wasn't there such an outrage when Nintendo sold 1-2-Switch for 60 dollars in 2017?
>>738085909did you at least get to suck his dick?
Reggie stole my wallet at E3 2011
It worked extremely well. I saw a TON of people that didn't care about Nintendo or video games, but they had a Wii because it came with Wii Sports. Basically for these people, the Wii was the "boxing, bowling, tennis, baseball, golf machine" and anything else was just extra, especially Wii Fitness.Reggie did this. I don't care if the Switch sold well and the Switch 2 sold okay. A pack-in game would have helped more.Maybe it was actually a problem? A bunch of old people buying a Wii and never any other games? We know the Wii sold well, we know it made a ton of money, but there are a ton of Wiis in the wild that probably never saw a single game besides Wii Sports.
>>738085909in my experience the more you interact with japanese people the less you like them, it's best to enjoy their products and ignore the people
>>738086023you were probably too young if you don't remember people shitting on the game extremely hard
>>738086023Hello timeline jumper.
>>738086097I'm older than you buddy, there was some outrage but not like this time
>>738084786>It's 100% a waste of money and a slap in the face by NintendoIt seemed like a fun little toy to fuck around with, waste of money sounds right but slap in the face?
>>738085909Based nipchad dunking on american cyberniggers
>N64 doesn't come with any games>games are all sold out when my family buys one>had to borrow Mario 64 from a friend>never bought it for ourselvesGreat jorb, Miyamoto-san.
>>738085909japanese people think that if a game is not available for purchase, you should respect the corporation's decision to not sell it and refrain from playing itthey also think that vidya music on youtube is immoral and that if you want to listen to the mario 64 end credits song you should buy a CD or play the game to completion and listen to it
>>738084181Reggie would have only been at Nintendo two years when he was talking to Iwata and Miyamoto about this and he's a gaijin. I'm surprised they even listened to him.
>>738084181>"we don't give away content for free">"yes you do, dumbass. how old do you think i am?"fucking kek
>>738086023>>738086097>>738086167There wasnt really outrage, it was just "this game is shit and im not paying $60 for it, shouldve been a pack in" then everyone forgot about.it.Snipperclips was the more popular launch title
>>738084380>in Japanwow... japan and america are.... le different
>>738086167It was more written off as a shit game. People were more mad about it being shit, and it was so shitty that it would have been disappointing as a pack-in game unlike Wii Sports. It was made purely to show off Switch features in trailers, and not actually be any fun to play at home.Welcome Tour is even worse because it shouldn't even be considered a game, let alone a paid one. It's something that would have absolutely been free in the Wii/DS era. No one would even be talking about it like a game. No sales figures, no tracking of how many people played it, it's just a piece of software on the home screen.
>>738085184so how are they beating xbox?
>>738086414cult brand loyalty is paying off for Nintendo (for now)
>>738084380The Wii could've just been a plug and play console with Sports as the only title and it would've sold the same amount as the full release did. It was for children and old retards wasting away in nursing homes when the 360 and the PS3 were there for actual gamers.
>when you remember the Switch was defeated by a fucking paperclip
>>738086587
>>738086587That made nintendo get angry at nvidia. Keep in mind this was years before nvidia became an AI focused company.
>>738086059>Maybe it was actually a problem? A bunch of old people buying a Wii and never any other games?It was, plus Wii Sports being so big caused minigame collections to flood the market, driving down the Wii's reputation.
>>738084181It was not even a free pack-in. The Wii cost more on release in North America compared to Japan.
>>738084907>>738084602The point though is that, even from a purely business-oriented mindset, that's still a retarded decision. More people are going to buy the console packaging with Wii Sports, it'll give the console more relevancy and increase its livespan by giving something everyone with a Wii will have especially on launch with a limited library.How many people, especially without pre-knowledge of the Wii's motion controls when it was still all brand new, was going to go out of their way to buy a sports game that use miis?They made far more money long term by making wii sports a standard inclusion than they would have ever made selling it standalone. Miyamoto is just a dumb chink gook.
>>738086196There are areas of the world where SM64 wasn't packaged with n64 like it was everywhere else, but I will not allude to where (for your own benefit)
>>738084181Miyamoto was right. it's a shitty thing to do, raising the price of the console by $50, forcing players to buy an overpriced tech demo they might not have wanted to buy. it's anti-consumer as fuck and everyone celebrates it because they didn't even notice they were getting screwed.
>>738085738This, but unironically.
>>738086920shhhh, you're not supposed to point that out.
>>738084181I thought Reggie's memoirs came out few years ago already. Is this the first time twitter retards have seen these quotes?>answer: yes
>>738085260>the KoreansYou mean the ones that are in a hyper capitalism death spiral?
>>738087241They do not like Reggie because he was right, they don't like mentioning Reggie because they knew Hiroshi preferred him over Shitwata and Shitamoto during gamecube/wii. They praise Iwata over him despite the fact the only thing that saved Nintendo from him was Reggie and his own death.>>738087395Real capitalism has never been tried.
>>738087490I'm not buying your book, reggie.
>>738084181Its interesting how his dumbass mario movie comments have broken the spell and people can talk about how Miyamoto needs to stay the fuck in his lane and not talk about shit he doesnt understand.
>>738084181Once again proving that Iwata was the acutal GOAT at that company.
>>738084181How can you post a quote and a screencap but not a source link?
>>738086926Well no shit. This decision was never driven by the business minded people. But instead by artists and devs like Miyamoto.
>>738087624>broken the spellthe fuck are you talking about "Miyamoto bad" has been the sentiment for a full fucking decade or more now. did you already forget all the whining about the "Mario Mandate" where everyone blamed Tanabe's fuckups on Miyamoto?
>>738084602Can't wait for this cucked boomer mentality to eventually die out. Such an unmotivated attitude is laughable.To quote The Sopranos: "What do you expect, huh? He's part of a whole generation!"
>>738087553You're not buying any other book from nintendo employees either (because they don't have any and can't speak/write English).
>>738087624I wonder how you will cope when Miyamoto is completely out of the picture, either dead or fully retired. Who will the next boogeyman be, Koizumi?
>>738087704Iwata died and his legacy was the Wii U flop, lol
>>738087885Actually I shouldn't say that, or maybe I should since his is also pretty inconvenient for the professional polystation maker now roleplaying Disney.
>>738087624>>738087796>Implying he hasn't been fucking up his own IP's longer than thatThe Mario mandate was a drop in the bucket.
The autist has arrived, prepare for multiple paragraphs of schizo babbling.
>>738084181The fuck? NES and SNES, most ppl bought with a pack in. N64 and GC didn't have that, but Wii not having Wii Sports would have sold like less systems. Idk if ppl were wanting to buy a $50 title everyone would say is pack in worthy. Good thing Reg stood his ground. Sure, Japan is a different place, but time and again, let NoA do what it wants.
>>738088207>arrivedanon, this is a nintendo hate thread, there was an autist here from the opening post.
>>738087624Actually /ourguy/ Arlo made most normies change their minds on Miyamoto years ago with his Paper Mario crusadeMost people know he's a weird out of touch ojisan now
>>738085602mine came with odyssey
>>738088376>/ourguy/ ArloGo back.
>>738085482A good friend will mock you relentlessly for poor and cringy decisions in the hopes that you'll improve your habits
>>738084404
>>738087062Yeah, long after its initial release when it had to compete for shelf space against more than just fucking Pilotwings.
>>738086180I'm glad I saw this. I will remember this and smile every time I pirate a game for the rest of my days.
>>738088052>boogeyman>when he's directly quoted saying stupid shitmeds
>>738084907So we get profit sharing then right
>>738087721https://mynintendonews.com/2026/05/02/reggie-says-miyamoto-gave-him-a-death-stare-when-he-suggested-wii-sports-as-a-pack-in/
>>738084181everything about miyamoto points to him being a retard
>>738087093This is my vow: arr gaijin wirr die.
>>738084181Based Reggie. What will Devon Pritchard do for Nintendo?
>>738089945>What will Devon Pritchard do for Nintendo?you will live to see pronouns and other mega-pozzed shit in the biggest nintendo franchises
>>738084463why cant they just make slightly less money to make people happy
>>738084337this is genuinely beyond shameless.
>>738086498dobson refuted this.
>>738084907That doesn’t make sense considering there is also the hardware people who would want to see their own handiwork sell as well
>Guy named fucking Bowser takes over as NOA President >Succeeding one of the most memed and beloved corporate figures ever>Does absolutely nothing noteworthy Nintendo really have no clue whatsoever how to engage fans. Reggie was something else.
>>738084602he literally gave away super mario world so i have no idea what he's on.
>>738084982Also, Tetris was a very hard get, they had to fight the rights out of Tengen (a company that existed for the sole reason of shitting on nintendo and their console license lock system) and the Soviet Union government claiming it belonged to them because Pajitnov used a government owned PC to code it
>>738090271yeah I was honestly expecting him to do some really bad shit when he just... did nothing...
>>738084404He could sense his killing intent.
>>738090271>Does absolutely nothing noteworthythat's not true, he saw someone else named bowser and decided to turn him into a debt slave for life, that's pretty noteworthy.
>>738090383that guy deserved everything he got
>>738084404Reggie is quite obviously a people-smart guy.
>>738084181the second reggie left nintendo the company lost what remained of its soul after iwata died
>>738085909>cosplay>discordThere's your problem.>>738086248The japs' disdain towards piracy is very gay but understandable. Pirates and emulation exist, but there has never been any need for large scale piracy or importing foreign media when anything you want exist within your own country physically and is easy and cheap to come by. It's easy for a jap to just go to a thrift store or on yahoo and buy games, CDs, DVDs, manga or whatever he wants for peanuts. Some are starting to get that the corporations suck now and only peddle cheap chinkshit nowadays, but most still worship them because they used to be known for high quality.Piracy used to be big in the Nordics and still is in slavland because our own media is mostly dogshit, shit is expensive even used, or just not released at all here.
>>738086180>NOOOOO YOU CANT DIG UP THOSE LOST TEXTS FROM THE LIBRARY OF PHARAOH KHEFU, THAT'S LITERALLY PIRACY>THOSE AZTEC CODICES WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE DISTRIBUTED IN YOUR LANGUAGEEEEEEE>THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS OF THE BOOKS FOUND IN THE THOUGHT-TO-BE-LOST LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA HAVENT BEEN PROPERLY COMPENSATED FOR YOU TO BE MAKING COPIES SO YOU NEED TO STOP RIGHT NOW
>>738085028I'm surprised they did a whole movie just about this copyright notice:https://tcrf.net/images/a/ac/Tetris_BPS_rev_0_copyright.png
>>738084459You don't know that, it could've done well
>>738086180Wtf, kids in Africa could have eaten that...
>>738090272that's where he learned how to be a jew
>>738086180If his store gets caught with that in it, he'll get shut down and he'll go to jail.
They increased the price of the Wii by $50 when they finally agreed to pack in Wii Sports. You didn't get it for free, you were forced to buy it if you wanted a Wii
>>738084723He didnt want to release games for a console they arent going to support. Its like if Microsoft released Project Gotham Racing 3 on the original Xbox instead of the 360
>I'm putting a team together.
>>738095215The La Li Lu Le Lo?!?
>>738093167>The japs' disdain towards piracy is very gay but understandable>but understandableNo it's not.Chinese aren't even half as drones as japs are and they have to deal with a socialist megastate telling them 24/7 to worship the state
>>738084181Miyamoto was not in a position at this time to be deciding this anyway. It would have been down to Iwata's decision.
>>738095262
>>738087490As a person I think Iwata is one of the best CEOs a game company has ever had, but in terms of his decision-making, I really disliked the direction he took Nintendo in. The SNES and N64 were arguably the most powerful consoles of their respective gens, as was the GameCube when devs made exclusives for it. Being stuck with the Wii hardware at the same time shit like GTA4 and God of War III were coming out was fucking miserable, especially because you knew that more ambitious games like Zelda and Metroid were kneecapped by the shitty hardware in what they could achieve. Yamauchi's Nintendo put out games that went beyond what was previously thought possible, especially in the N64 era, but under Iwata everything felt safe and sanitized for the new audience. Outside of the Switch 2 era, the Iwata era was probably Nintendo's worst.
>>738095451It was a good business callThe Nintendo 64 underperformed and the GameCube floppedThe Wii became a meteoric success by not directly competing with the PS3 and 360
apparently shipping SMB with the american NES also made nintendo of japan seethe
>>738084723Considering all the stupid shit that surrounded those games that barely have anything to do with the game themselves, he was right.
>>738084181Miyamoto can't speak English. Reggie can't speak Japanese.
And then when their next console rolled around, they decided NOT to do the pack-in thing that made them so much money, further dooming a piece of hardware that was already receiving lukewarm public reception despite being one of the best consoles specifically for family games. This shit was legitimately way more fun than Wii Sports, but nobody played it because they fucking charged for it.
>>738095075Fun fact: Nintendo does operate in some African countries like South Africa, Zimbabwe and Angola, but not in India anymore.
>>738095562The quality of their games also nosedived because of it though. None of the Wii installments in their major franchises held up to the previous ones and most of them were scaled back and simplified for their new audience of soccer moms. Previously their games were deceptively simple but very deep mechanically, but during the Wii era they got rid of all the depth.
>>738095451Funny that you mention that Iwata made a bad decision while also mentioning Yamauchi, the man who didn't believe in in that horseshit.Yamauchi idea was that if you increase the console power you're also increasing the time it takes to develop a game for it(spot on)
>>738095607They're really greedy to an inexplicable, self destructive extentIt's crazy how there was a brief period when literally 90% of consoles on earth were Nintendos and they scuttled it, first by giving Sega an opening then by giving Sony a victory, because no dev wanted to deal with their demands and autism
>>738095607Japan seethes at everything.I remember they seethed when an animation update for a FGO character appeared in the NA version at around the same time. Except NA FGO is supposed to be years behind the JP server, so in their backwards logic, NA got it """early"""
>>738095410Mario & Wario also features a fairy named Wanda (it's a pun, but still).
>>738095843she's not fairly odd though
>>738095715In that case maybe their hardware being stronger than the competition in certain areas was just by chance. They got a good deal on the N64 tech after Sega stupidly passed it up. Whatever the reason though, with Wii they started intentionally going for obsolete hardware instead of on par with the competition.
Didnt tetris come free with the og gameboy?
>>738095451>>738095562Not only that but Nintendo was not prepared for HD development in 2006, making the Wii on par with the ps360 would have killed their software output leading to the same droughts that the wii u suffered from.
>>738095937>Tetris OG gameboy>SMW SNESAll of this happened before Nintendo accepted Judaism as their main religion
>>738084181Reggie's understanding of American sensitivities proved a humongous asset in the 2000s.
>>738084907thats a very weird mindset to me. I couldnt give a single fuck about anything I work on at work and only care about the money. I would betray them in a second for more money from another company and I have done so many times.
>>738095954Why did nip devs have so much trouble making HD games? Late 6th-gen games look as good or better than early 7th-gen games, they could have just made games with the same pipeline and just bump up the texture resolution and coasted for the first two years of the gen.
>>738096004Did you forgot about MK World?
>>738084459not in 2006 retard. ps2 was raping the gamecube in japan
>>738085586retard alertretard alert
>freelol, yeah it was "free" all right
For me, over the past 10 years, Miyamoto went from a developer I deeply respected to a slimey greedy rat that ruined an entire industry and is actively trying to make it worse.Fuck Shigeru Miyamoto and the horse he rode in on. The true head of the snake.
>>738085448It was really just a wii sports machine. It was not really considered a proper game console.
>>738096113Console bundles =/= a game being included in the main console SKU. You didn't have to pay "more" for your brand new Nintender to get your first game with it.
>>738096158Sounds to me you're just autistic
>>738084181Virtually every single one of Reggie's decision ended up backfiring. He was the one that wanted to advertise the new Bayo and Metroid Prime game way before they were ready and they both ended up underwhelming af. He wanted Nintendo to focus more on e-sports and that nearly fucked them over when the Smash Bros controversy broke out. Or that Nintendo should focus more on making mobile games and nearly every game except FEH ended up EoS or underperforming. He also wanted Nintendo to focus on the western market instead of the Japanese market and it ended up the Japanese market was the market that overperformed while the west underperformed because of the US.
>>738084181Funny how that little ape man scoffs at the idea of ''giving away content for free'' but has no problems reselling the exact same fucking game over and over again.
>>738085602There weren't bundles at launch but they did happen later down the line with games like Mario Odyssey and MK8DX. So far Switch 2 has only launched with a predatory bundle designed to catch people's FOMO, that's the entire reason Mario Kart World is $80, not because it's worth more than a typical AAA title does since PS5 standardized it, but because they knew it would get people to buy the digital game code bundles and punish late adopters and physical buyers with a game they still really want.
>>738084181zoomers played wii?hm i guess you were old enough
I got a wii the day it came out to play Twilight Princess day 1 as the Gamecube version wasnt out until a month later and I played Wii Sport as well and I pretty much never used it every again until Skyward Sword came out and I played that for a few days before getting bored of it and dropping it.
>>738096080It's not that simple. Western devs only got by because they brute forced it with funding from wall street that suddenly became very interested in vidya and the military industrial complex using games like cod as propaganda. They would hire dozens if not hundreds of contractors/ temp hires and then lay them all off once the game was finished. Japs don't operate this way so they fell behind
>>738084602but I don't value the product or the team that made it.because I don't buy anything nintendo has put out new since the gamecube.and I pirate every game I want to play up to switch1, realizing that the pirated games, or purchased games, are still really shitty games and I don't finish any of them.Now I dont even pirate any of them. (except gamecube which I hacked one recently)
*blocks you're path*
>>738086180woah, that guy just saved nintendo 10000000 gajillion dollars since now some cant download and put a game on it then delete the game over and over and over.wtf why isn't nintendo the top of every stockmarket on earth right now?
>>738084404it looked like this
>iwata dies>reggie leaves>nintendo goes maximum overjewbababooey
>>738096158Miyamoto was always a bit special but he used to be good. He went senile as early as the GameCube days, but up until Star Fox Zero he was at least enthusiastic about any garbage he made. When Iwata died he became a different man and the washed old boomer he is today. Now he just shows up with a empty stare, cozies up to fat Hollywood jews and pisses himself over people not being excited over Mario turning into braindead tiktok slop for ipad babies.Shiggy is a faggot but he deserves credit for what he did in the 80's and 90's. Tezuka and Koizumi deserve as much, if not more, credit as Miyamoto. And definitively more than that hack faggot Aonuma, who used Shiggy as a horse to ride in on, and later proceed to take a shit on.
>>738096902>iwata dies >reggie leaves>nintendo stops going full retard baby mode with their game design>makes a conscious effort to market to adults and not be seen as just a kiddy game companyLook I fuck with reg and satoru but they weren't perfect
>>738084181I have to say... wii golf is probably one of the best games ever made. not joking
>>738096902rip
>>738097193Fuck tezuka, he made yoshi into baby shit.
>>738084181silver isn't good enough I want all gold coins>Dr fuckner pro golf champion
>>738096902>following industry standard means maximum overjewDon't blame the player, blame the game.
>>738097403Remind me, who sets the industry standard?
>>738097458super sand lesbians
>>738097226Certainly not. Gen 8 sucked fucking dick for Nintendo (and everyone else to be desu). All their E3s around that time were totally disappointing.
>>738097503ACK!!
>>738097458the standard has been lost with they they/them retards.
>>738084723>WHO NEEDS TO LOCALIZE WEEB SHITBased.Learn Japanese.
>>738097565eat my ass Frisbee
>>738097343Based, Yoshi games are to this day top tier baby games. Tezuka is the chad Miyamoto wishes he was.
>>738084181>le we don't do le free>doesn't know how drug dealers hook people inwhy are nips so stupid at business?
>>738097730because muh honorabru
>>738097235
>>738097730they always 10 years behind it's also golden week
>>738097785chip in
>>738087395>>738087490retarded leftists think central banking and government intervention is "capitalism" and then beg for more of those things while they get raped lmao
>>738097696Yoshi games after island on the SNES are fucking boring and you are a pathetic twat.
>>738097785I'm no speed runner but holy shit is that game fun as fuck. it makes me feel good with holes in one and chip In's
>>738097521E3 2014 was good for Nintendo
wii sports was a mastermind game
>>738095262I played this game recently, it was cheesy but good.
>>738096685was that official? i dont think nintendo made any of those combo cartridges but i think i had one of those so that can't be right
>>738084907And look, Pokemon team is proud of producing absolute SHIT
>>738086186>cyberniggersGotta add this one to my vocabulary
>>738084181Just proves how good nintendo could have been if there was a perpetual counter to Sh*ggy
>>738090167as opposed to ingenuinely? faggot
>>738084181and then everyone stood up and clapped for my bravery
>>738085586Why do you think Iwata's cancer bile suddenly came back mere days after it was removed? He got Virtual Boy'd. I genuinely believe this.
has anyone read Reggie's book?I know he wrote one.
>>738095639Land was a pack-in with the black Wii U.
>>738084181>wii sports as a wii pack inif that was actually reggie's idea then he deserves alot more credit than i've ever given him. that idea is literally the singular variable that nintendo had control over that set the wii on a course for becoming the massive cultural fad and money printer that it was.
>>738099062I read the Iwata one. Pretty good.
>>738086180>/v/ niggers will bitch and moan that Japanese people are so "backwards" when it comes to piracy.>Same /v/ niggers will also openly wonder how Japan manages to stay so clean and homogeneous.
>>738084181>we don't give away content for freeIf Miyamoto were in charge, neither the NES nor Game Boy would have gone anywhere in the U.S.
Reggie and Iwata attracted all the casuals
>>738099504Oh dear. Casual players of my single player games?
>>738099547trans btw
>>738095451This. People who act like the Wii era was the golden age were clearly not around for shit like Nintendo’s E3 2008 conference.
>>738097928I liked Yoshi’s Story, but it was the first game in the series I played, so maybe I’m just biased.
>>738084380America has triple Japan's human population, do I have to explain the math here, retard? Reggie was a genius for that move.
>>738099475Hell, the company's products wouldn't have left Japan.
On the one hand, I get where Miyamoto is coming from. Imagine spending months sleeping 4 hours (max) trying to program a game, and then some American nigga who doesn't know how to code says, "Hey, why don't we just give this game away for free to everyone?"But on the other hand, Miyamoto lacked entrepreneurial vision, because these games aren't just being given away for free to everyone, they're helping to sell consoles, just like fucking Mario World did for the SNES. And Nintendo probably factored the game into the final cost of the Wii anyway...
MY BODY IS READY HAHA
>>738099959>And Nintendo probably factored the game into the final cost of the Wii anyway...Its a disc in a pouch, it costs pennies compared to a cart.
>>738084181smart decisionthe wii was a pretty shit console thoughI want nintendo to succeed but they keep fucking it up with nothingburgers like the switch 2 and taking 6 years to make another zelda game that's pretty much just a copy paste job of BOTWevery major dev is taking 6-8 years to put out a game though so I guess I'm not all that surprisedstill disappointed...
>>738099959If the Japanese knew anything about the world outside of their island, Nintendo would be very different.
I read Reggie's book, dude had a lot of great ideas that helped Nintendo a ton, probably helped he had a huge background in marketing prior to Nintendo.They had a lot of internal issues to, like Reggie's side wasn't even aware that the GBA micro was coming out, and he thought it was a tremendously stupid idea with the DS so close to release.
>bumps the system's price tag up by $50 with a game people may not wanto-oh my iwata.... this man is a genius! truly a pro consumer move! i wish he'd make me his boywife!
>>738095335Reading Japanese twitter, I agree with them. There is a anti-civic anti-civilization third world mentality when it comes to the type of person who engages in piracy and acts like its a noble thing, because then they get into shouting matches with the japanese and turn into entitled third worlders screaming about lolicon and nukes.
>>738086186>>738098463>responding to yourselfHomosexual behavior much?
>>738100487i_dont_give_a_fuck_what_twitter_thinks.tiff
The japs are so fucking weird man.In Reggie's book there's a chapter about how he visited Iwata for his first bile duct cancer surgery and apparently that was considered weird, nobody went to see the guy except Reggie.Makes no fucking sense.
>>738100289>he thought it was a tremendously stupid idea with the DS so close to release.and he was right. the micro sold like total shit outside of japan and the GBA slot on the DS basically guaranteed its success
>>738100487There's a middle-ground somewhere.Pirating 10-20 year old games for example, is a non-issue that japs need to relax about.
>>738100487dodn't readered RUMAO
>>738100314Wii release happened in november and the wii sports talk happened in july, r&d costs, marketing, pricing would've happened and have been set before the debates on bundling meaning the price didn't go up by $50.
>>738086180holy shit get some new fingers that aren't fat and useless
>>738100487The reason Japan has a bug up it's ass about piracy is because they associate it with the Chinese and Flips that've been running piracy rings off of stolen Japanese media for decades. Every generation has seen the obligatory news stories to the tune of>violent criminal retard tape ring busted, suspects are Chinese and Flips>violent criminal retard music ring busted, suspects are Chinese and Flips>violent criminal retard video CD ring busted, suspects are Chinese and Flips>violent criminal retard DVD ring busted, suspects are Chinese and Flips>violent criminal retard file sharing ring busted, suspects are Chinese and Flipswith images of shipping warehouses and containers being raided and said criminal retard Chinese and Flips being taken away, with police vowing to find the traitors enabling this (someone in Roppongi has already paid the cops off somewhere discrete). Piracy is hyped-up as being a gateway crime that'll lead Japanese children on the path to delinquincy, and inevitably being some sort of gangster, and Japen being hard on crime/pirates reinforces this fearSo yeah, Japan is culturally conditioned to look at you emulating with the same disdain they look at Chinese and Flips, both in general AND when they're pirating, you can ignore it the same way you can ignore seething about reclining
>>738084181>Gives everyone that buys the console a unified and shared experience to bond over, instantly creating a community around your new console.An actual stroke of genius by Reggie. There wasn't a single kid on the playground that owned a Wii that didn't talk about Wii Sports allowing word of mouth to spread back to parents and buy it for their kids.
>>738099959>I get where Miyamoto is coming from. Imagine spending months sleeping 4 hours (max) trying to program a gameyou mean imagine spending months telling other people to only sleep 4 hours to program a game
>>738104712>It's Mario time.No, Miyamoto! No!! Please!!
>>738099959Miyamoto never coded anything in his life. He was and is an "ideas guy" who got in at the right place at the right time.
>>738098829Proofs?
>>738105094gamefaqs
>>738100289>American side of the company tries to save the company despite the retardation of the Japanese sideSounds familiar.
>>738099458>pirating music is the same as importing 8 million niggers and poojeets.not today mr.goldstein.
>>738084181Reggie is an sjw mutt his opinion means nothing Still buying a switch 2
>>738084907>Nintendo wants their staff to have pride in what they do, they want them to know that their products are valued and being sold for money and making Nintendo and all its workers richer.If I make a game, and my bosses think it's good enough to be a free pack in that will sell hardware and effectively be the most identifiable thing for that hardware, that's something to be proud of more than just "ok after a year of crunch time and no sleep, my game that costs 60 bucks and no one bought because it has no brand recognition flopped, boy am I proud".
>>738096445many such cases
>>738105326Keep Reggie's name out of your mouth.
>>738084380>nintendo cuckolds buying their gods product without questionWOAH!
>>738084907LMAO
>>738100289>>738100653Even dumber is when you consider the GBA had so many RPGs on it and the micro made it impossible to read them without getting eye strain. I actually remember gamestop employees discouraging people from buying it for that reason alone.
>>738085909NO, YOU CAN'T JUST EMULATE A 20 YEAR OLD GAME NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE>STOP HURTING MY FRIEND NINTENDOWhy are they like this?
>>738100487Someone should tell Japs their pleas to stop pirating would have more weight if they didn't for decades outright rip off assets and steal trademarks from other countries because uh oh, this thing isn't legally sold in our country so we can just rip it off oh no please Garriot-san don't sue us!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5ef_KAZlY
>>738106248It's okay when honorabru nippon does it.
>>738084337Switch 2 is 500
>>738106248Falcom was stupid for just tracing someone else's art for their game, even like 40 years ago. I'm fine with saying that part of Xanadu sucks, but that's not a dismissal of the entire country.
>>738084181Reggie was obviously right to do this because the game's value to the company was in controller sales not unit sales. Selling the console with two controllers and wii sports and making families shell out for two more controller so the kids can play tennis with mum and dad was obviously more valuable than selling the game itself, not to mention the games power to have people destroy the controllers and need to buy replacements.
>>738100487the respect and civility you admire is a package deal that requires the government and corporations to treat their citizens and employees with the same respect they want in returnit's the same thing with the earlier discussion here >>738084907western businesses treat their employees like shit and in turn the employees just want to collect their paycheck and bailwasn't like this when the american economy was booming but those days are gone and it's all shareholding bullshit now
>>738105179SoA was the retarded side thoughbeit>but muh genesisYeah and then they tried to cling to that one success well into 1996 to the point where they had literal millions of consoles and games sitting in warehouses
>>738084181project midway... 2
>>738084181>The look that Mr. Miyamoto gave me… Mr. Miyamoto gives me this death stare.Then he should look at the size of my hard drive and front end lmao
>>738084181the more I head/read about Miyamoto the more I come to realize that he's a gigantic pile of shit
And Reggie won that argument. The Wii Switch was very strategically marketed towards "non-gamers" and Wii Sports was a part of that. Commercials with grandma waggling her wii stick around with the grandkids, when DUDE OTHER CONSOLE was offering antisocial "gamer" games the player is playing alone in his bedroom. That was why Wii had such a high casual attachment rate. Now, they didn't come back for the Wii U, but a good chunk of them didn't even know the Wii U was a different device...Nintendo was retarded when they used that name instead of calling it the Wii 2 or something similarly blatant.
>>738084181Nintendo is the proof that usury is not a Jewish exclusive trait.
>>738109376>but a good chunk of them didn't even know the Wii U was a different device...Nintendo was retarded when they used that name instead of calling it the Wii 2 or something similarly blatant.Why do you point out obvious things that everybody knows?
>>738107379>but that's not a dismissal of the entire country.Japan did it for years, and then comes up with hamfisted ways to explain it that basically amount>we were young uncreative dipshits who had to meet a deadline and didn't think our games would be exported and seen by a wider audience, prease understandu
>>738108395>it's the same thing with the earlier discussion hereWhich was already debunked because being a pack-in is a sign of respect and ultimately proved Reggie right in that Wii Sports was the best tech demo to sell audiences on the idea of motion controls.
>>738084181He should've been sued for even suggesting giving away content for free. Madness.
>>738084404he squinted his eyes even more
>>738084181>Then he says Reggie-san, ‘we don’t give away content for free’.
>>738110117Metal Gear is probably the most famous for this.Old arcade game called Vendetta has basically Sugar Ray Leonard, Mr T, Jean Claude Van Damme and Hulk Hogan as the protagonist.I think Live A live also has literally Hogan as boss.
>>738084602>(1) you don't value the productcorrect, which is why nobody bought it(2) you don't value the team that made it (HUGE at Nintendo)correct, which is why nobody bought it
>>738084907I feel like that's fucking stupid though. Im a small indie game developer and if they packed my game for free with every switch 2 I'd be fucking ecstatic. Tens of millions of people enjoying my creation? Yes please.
>>738095451>The SNES and N64 were arguably the most powerful consoles of their respective gens,Key word is arguably, the SNES had a weaker processor than the Genesis, and N64's bottlenecks are too numerous to mention, on top of using carts basically giving Sony free reign to rule that generation.>>738095907>They got a good deal on the N64 tech after Sega stupidly passed it upBy the time SGI made their offer the Saturn's hardware was already finalized and basically done, Sega was in no position to tell Hitachi to fuck off and restart development all over again, not to mention the N64 was itself frustrating to work on for most devs who didn't want to keep knee capping their games to fit on a cart.
>>738084181why can't miyamoto just die already he's been destroying Nintendo for the past 15 years at least
>>738084380>in japanMeanwhile in the US, even my fucking 70 year old grandparents had a Wii for Wii Sports.
>>738110579I hope he lives another 50 years just to piss you off.
i'm still up for golf, bowling, or baseballtennis and boxing not so much
Reggie was a good guy for hating on Donkey Konga. If he liked JRPGs more he'd be the best guy ever cause he was a pretty funny guy you gotta admit.
>>738084907So why were there so many system+game bundles in the past? Hell, I got an NES with both SMB and Duck Hunt packaged with it, an SNES with Donkey Kong Country packaged with it, and a Gamecube with Luigi's Mansion packaged with it. When did Miyamoto suddenly become angry and resentful of that?
What was the idea of combining SMB and Duck Hunt like?
>>738110871>If he liked JRPGsWhat would have changed?
>>738084404You never had anyone give you a weird look before
>>738087490>they don't like mentioning Reggie because they knew Hiroshi preferred him over Shitwata and Shitamoto during gamecube/wii.Yamauchi was already gone when Reggie took over NOA.
>>738088682This, which is why I mock and berate everyone around me for not hiveminding with my opinions and tastes.
>>738110971Disingenuous webm
>>738085080>when they get localized the weebs just complain it's wokeDamn, all of /v/ is Nintendo weebs?
>>738110980Xenoblade in 2010 and with worse dub voices. That's it I guess.
>>738086180>poor Japanese lady gets the ick from a fatass consumer and leaves out of embarrassmentlol lmao
>>738111052Really, just that?
>>738085716This, no other gaming company in the history of the planet ever does anything like what Nintendo always does.
>>738086920>>738087086>OH NO FIFTY EXTRA DOLLARINOS TO PAY FOR A PACK IN TO SHOW THIS NEW CONTROL SCHEME AHHHH IM GOING INSANEWhy are tendies like this?
>>738084181kuso gaijin... give away free geimu like demon...
>>738111148Yeah Mother 3 wasn't going to come over anyway, and the Wii + DS got a lot of rpgs anyway. I mean there was Pandora's Tower and uhhhh the other one that was part of the the whole trio fans wanted over, but those weren't published by Nintendo I THINK. I DON'T REMEMBER, and I'm not looking it up. But Mother 3's problems coming over were far more vast than just Reggie and he was lambasted for being the sole reason when he was really just the messenger (and he had fun harping on it as seen in 2014's E3 presentation).
Funny thing is I never see any threads when other companies do the exact same things we want to murder everyone at Nintendo and then bomb the building over.
>>738111215Wii Sports was literally a system mover. Boomers didn't know any better. They will never get that audience again
>>738111259>the Wii>got a lot of rpgs anywayYeah, Last Story, Xenoblade, the list goes on...>I DON'T REMEMBERObviously, the Wii was a fucking wasteland for RPGs.
>>738084380Anon there's a reason you had a non-Japanese man run the American sector of Nintendo. I know we like to rail against diversity but a man born and raised in New York, having first hand experience socializing and working in that type of consumerism market is going to know the psychology of the average American.He'll you're having that same issue right now with the Switch 2 physical scene. The Japanese are way more accepting of Keycards while Americans and the West as a whole is actively being vocal about their dislike of it. There's a reason CDprjktred released Cyberpunk 2077 as a proper physical while Square-enix, Sega and Capcom went the keycard route. I mean even Microsoft had to announce the Indiana Jones game as physical for Switch 2 despite it not having physical for Series X or PS5. Different markets, Different sensibilities.
>>738084723I mean, let's be real. weeb shit is not making big bucks
>>738084459>That's because Nintendo has much bigger market shareGamecube was a distant second place in Japan and actually sold WORSE than N64.
>>738098829the man literally took a pay cut to help keep the company afloat. anons will disregard this but that's a massive amount of pressure on someone
>>738111293Miyamoto being mentioned specifically is guaranteed to piss people off and get engagement, everyone is deranged about him these days.
miyamoto is washed up and hasnt made any good decisions since the 90s. forever lost my respect for this nigga when he claimed that there was nothing new to be done with f-zero because he couldnt think of some retarded gimmick to slap on a hypothetical new game, even though all we need in a sequel is basically the same as f-zero gx's gameplay but with online multiplayer and a track creator. thats really fucking it.
>>738087624The Mario mandate ruined his image for a lot of people already.
>>738111040Not him, but if you weren't here for the Fire Emblem Awakening and Fates debacle then you don't know shit about how feral this board gets if you don't do direct translations with all written lines and features intact. The fact Nintendo managed to turn it around with Fire Emblem Three Houses to the point it was universally recieved even on /v/ is a near miracle.
So many communist and poorfags here. Miyamoto was right.
So many communists and poorfags here. Miyamoto was right.
>>738111792so true
>>738084723Wasn't Xenoblade already localized by European Nintendo?
>>738112158And that led to all the other Xeno games being raped and ruined by the tranny Scottish accents.
>>738112196X exists THOUGH
I don't think I'd buy a switch 2 purely because of all the online tier nickel and diming bullshit.
>>738111406Hey just like the N64. Nothing that NOA could do there
>>738084181>japan ceos are just as greedy and kike-ish as in the west and the only difference between dev studios here and there is here we have retarded troon devs and there they still have nerds
>>738084404his aura changed
>>738110983The joke is he already looks like his eyes are closed
>>738113049Always has been that way. For some reason people think Japan doesn't have the "eastern" mindset like the rest of Asia. They'll bend your ass over a barrel just as hard as the Chinese will if you give them the chance. Most people are simply blinded by the cutesy/wholesome image they try to fool everyone with
>>738110998you don't have friends if you are this much of a salty faggot over someone not liking the shitch
>>738084181If this is the type of stuff that makes miyamoto make """death stare""", imagine the seethe he must be having at emulation for the past 30 years. Holy shit. It must be with the force of thousand suns.
>>738084181Arms should have been a pack in title for switch seeing as how bare bones it was.
>>738113308You still doing this routine? Sad.
>>738084181wii sports was so basedbought a bunch of other games at launch but that really was the one to bundle with the console
>>738085909BASED! Hope you kill yourself
>>738098348>officialit was part of the action set
>>738084181To be fair I want the console to take the price off instead or bundling a game that I don't care for.Reggie is a marketing genius that made every household own wii with this strategy, but I'm not his target audience
>>738084386Switch 1 put them in full greed mode
>>738111692In F-zero's case he was just salty Sega outdid Nintendo at one of their own franchises.
>>738111413>The Japanese are way more accepting of Keycardsdo they expect that nintendo will keep maintaining servers for switch 2 games in 20 or 30 years? they haven't ended our ability to redownload dsiware or wii u/3ds eshop games but they announced that they plan to at some point.
>>738098527genuine faggot detected
>>738112158NoE localized it after Reggie kept blocking its release, partially as a way to spite NoA for not listening to their actual dedicated audience but also effectively alleviate any translation work America would need to do.
>>738098348Are you retarded? Of course Nintendo made that.
>>738084380and Switch 2 in generally a cheaper investment in Japan and S2s most dominant market is Japan now, wow!
>>738103348it's funny, there are example sentences in my anki decks for 海賊版 which basically say that pirates should be punished harshly
>>738084380>Japanese market is a different market to the American oneCrazy, isn't it?
>>738113951they don't care about this, to them it's shikatanai (can't be helped) and then they kill themselves by karoushi
>>738096873god I miss Fanboys
>>738084907But there's no way Welcome Tour is worth money though, it just isn't. So maybe they should feel that their work isn't worth being proud of.
>>738084380>japs ate up their favorite domestic slopwow and water is wet
>>738110989>Yamauchi was already gone when Reggie took over NOA.This is a misconception. Yamauchi was literally responsible for Wii/DS and specifically brought Reggie to the table himself to sell it and gamecube in america. He wasn't CEO no, but he was on the board making important decisions. Iwata was NEVER chosen by Yamauchi and was chosen by a vote from these chairmen. They needed Reggie, especially in America because there was genuine competition between all other consoles and they needed someone who understood the market so that they could AT LEAST make a profit during those hard times. "Blah blah blah, years later he DIDN'T LOCALIZE MY LITERAL WHO ANIME GAME", yeah well Nintendo knew he was right and that the effort wasn't worth the one or two purchases made by the people who spam this talking point to this day.>>738113880>In F-zero's caseMiyamoto has never given a shit about F-zero. That's Imamura's pet project. If you actually want to see the downfall of Miyamoto in game series form you need only look at his golden child which he for some reason just can't seem to part ways with despite NO SALES for multiple iterations now. It's actually scary how this entire post can be summarized using titles from this series, down to being the last game Yaumachi had his name on before "retiring" (Starfox adventures) and further beyond with them begging Namco to basically do the same thing Sega did with Fzero because they couldn't make games worth a piss for a disc system. Then there's Command...which I wish Reggie extended his services to like he did Xenoblade.
>>738084181I grew up with two older cousins who have never owned a video game console before or after the Wii and think video games are only played by losers and virgins. They literally only bought the Wii because of Wii Sports because they saw it as a workout accessory rather than a video game. They only used it like twice and never played on the Wii again, but I would go to their house constantly during the summer to play a ton of games on their Wii. People underestimate how much Wii Sports did to draw in people who didn’t play vidya.
>>738085909he sounds pretty based for telling you how it is
>>738114614for my uncle with two girls who never gamed..I one day see a wii in their house. I asked him "why" and he basically said "Netflix". It was then I realized they were playing sony's game only without a DVD player.
>>738088052>guy's name is Coy Zoomy
>>738113951>do they expect that nintendo will keep maintaining servers for switch 2 games in 20 or 30 years?That's still the case with the old Wii games although it's more likely of the Wii hardware to break down and lose the purchased titles in the process since there wasn't a proper account system back then, rather than the servers to shut down at any point.And it's not exclusively the Japanese, people who aren't overly autistic and terminally online don't give a crap about the """"controversy"""" of the keycards. People don't buy physicals for ideological reasons like muh preservation or whatever inane bullshit.
>>738084181N64 and Gamecube both flopped in the west. fine systems but never got close to PSX/PS2 numbers. Wii having Wii Sports moved so many units they ended up "winning" the gen but Wii Sports was also the only game people played on it so attachment rates were abysmal and came back to bite them hard when they tried to make a direct sequel to the Wii. fucked up similarly with the 3DS so Nintendoom was real until the Switch came along and printed money again.
>>738114771the wii had a dvd player capability i think
>>738084181>nintendo looked at wii sports and thought they could charge money for that trashwhat is wrong with japs?
Sometimes I wonder how Reggie feels about modern Nintendo and gaming as whole. He was lucky to peace out on his own terms before things got really stupid but if he stuck around maybe he'd tardwrangle Nintendo and stop them from becoming kiked.
>>738115246He doesn't give a shit you mark he doesn't play games
>>738115272b-but, reggie is my best friend... he HAS to care!
>>738099128IIRC That was classed as a bundle as you paid more for it. You basically paid what you would for the Wii u and game separately
>>738115068So the fine print was that it had "DVD capability" which of course Nintendo took away using DRM (because they didn't want to pay royalties to sony which is also why they used phillips mini discs during Gamecube). If you had homebrew channel on older wii models you could play DVD's on them though.
>>738084723I mean, I agree the uber weebs that have lolis as their PFPs on social media are the most obnoxious faggots across all the Internet but you still need niche games to build up a small but passionate audience that will show up for your next console.Getting Xenoblade to America and marketing Awakening with SMTIV during the 3DS era has led Nintendo to make JRPG and multiple jap devs jump shp from Sony once they changed their HQ to California. Sony used to be known as the weeb console during the 6th gen and now Ninty has taken that spot, well at least for now given their recent controversies with M rated games and localization.
>>738111413Yeah, that's why there's big ass piracy war in twatter back then, nip will gobble nintendo cock without questions in the name of protecting the creator, with the final nail in the coffin is nyaa.si stats that top pirate is from japan
nintendo is an insanely cheap company out of principal. they fundamentally hate their costumers.
>>738097193>Miyamoto was always a bit special but he used to be goodMiyamoto threw a tantrum over other platformers in the early days because he thought Nintendo had a monopoly on 'jumping'. He has always been a fart huffing retard.
>>738084723100% correct. Any distinctly Japanese series that gets localized is inevitably ruined.
>>738084181Nintendo is dogshit without Yamauchi, Iwata and Reggie. They keep Koizumi in the cuck cave and Sakurai isn't even an employee. Modern Nintendo is a sad bad joke.
Why are people always trying to slander Miyamoto?
>>738084181Anyone else miss the days of when Nintendo were Reggie, Miyamoto and Iwata making based announcements and doing fun presentations with each other?
>>738116454He's a washed up hack that hasn't made a good game in 30 years.
>>738116454he is their mortal enemy because, uh, paper mario and mario mandate, or something. And star fox zero being shit.
>>738116454Slandering him by quoting his exact words? Try and defend shit like this >>738116310Miyamoto is a fucking faggot
i don't have a switch 2, does every game that has improved performance on the switch 2 cost money to upgrade? i think ps4-ps5 games do this too but i don't think it's every game
>>738112196Main reason why I never played any of the games besides X. I fucking hate the accents, they all sound retarded and europoor. Also the translation fucking sucks and waters down a lot of the biblical names. They couldn't Rape X with gay accents because they're all canonically american in that game.Unfortunatly a lot of fantasy shit is getting rapped by shitty bongisms, like dragon quest fucking up the scripts and dub just to make them aggressively bong. Not like normal british bloke talking, I mean the most obnoxious british accents.
>>738116454Because "yes you are all wrong".>>738116550>And star fox zero being shit.Lol compared to which starfox?
>>738117090you are mentally ill
>>738117245I'm not the one that turned a railshooter into an adventure game.
>>738117612Mental illness.
>>738086071This has been my experience as well. I've lived in three different countries on two continents and have encountered numerous Japanese people and for some reason they are really difficult to get along with.>interested in Japanthey don't like you>not interested in Japanthey don't like you>not interested in [latest popular thing]they don't like youetc.It's tiresome to deal with them. I haven't had this problem with any other nationality. Even other Asians are fine. Chinese and Korean people have been pretty positive to be around and I have never met an unfriendly Vietnamese person. It's just Japanese people for some reason. The best I have managed is "friendly acquaintance" with them. thanks for reading my blog
>>738087835Thats like the opposite of unmotivated but ok
>>738110937simple answer, miyamoto is half-senile, and his ego has ballooned since the NES days
>>738085909Nintendo is going to be real fucking sore when the EU forces them to start releasing server binaries for their online games.
>>7380844481-2-Switch should have also been thrown in as a tech demo because it's worthless as a game. No one enjoys these things outside of "here's how to use the console and what it's capable of, neat!"
>>738114085ngmi
>>738117679Wanna know why he actually wanted an adventure game?
>>738084386They really want to be Disney
>>738118001Holy fucking based, I take back anything bad I ever said about this man.
>>738113497who is "you" ?hit ya right in the nerves or something?
>>738086180>+1 (one) nintendo point has been added to your credit score
Miyamoto is retarded he recently said that the mario galaxy movie was a bunch of random 3 mimute segments taped together so that kids don't get bored and run around the theatre
>>738084380Bootlickers #1 nation bought product® made by company©. Woah
>>738118974rare miyamoto W. that movie was pure offensive brainrot idiocy and should be illegal to show to kids.
>>738084602The fucking NES came with Mario AND duck hunt for free. Those teams were still valued.
>>738084404He squinted his eyes more than ever before, as if he was trying to release a really big log of shit.
What the fuck is the mario mandate?
>>738118026They’ve wanted that since like the SNES era, anon. You don’t build a billion-dollar mascot factory, open theme parks, pump out Illumination slop, and start obsessing over “brand synergy” unless you’re eyeing the House of Mouse model.The difference is Disney actually commits to multimedia domination. Nintendo half-asses it, panics if anything deviates from The Vision™, and then locks it in a vault for 20 years. They want the prestige, the merchandising empire, the sanitized global appeal - but still act like a toy company run by stubborn old men who think online play is witchcraft.Miyamoto doesn’t want to make games anymore. He wants “experiences.” Carefully curated, committee-approved, grandma-safe experiences. That’s straight up Disney brain.
How is Japan more anal about piracy than the west, yet are more accepting of AI slop?
>>738116310I'm not going to defend him but he's clearly joking here.
miyamoto is holding nintendo backhe needs to die
>>738084181You people realize that the pricing of the game was added to the cost, right? Yeah, Wii Sports was a pack-in title. But the system was also $50 more expensive than it would have been without. They just didn't say it outright.
>>738104712>>738104808
>>738121483a schizo theory
Japanese fear American pack-in strategy
>>738109376>games the player is playing alone in his bedroomThe only good kind of games.
>>738122032The Super Mario Bros NES bundle cost $150. The version without Super Mario Bros cost $100. Pack-ins have always been deceitful marketing, giving off the illusion of a deal while not actually saving you any money.
>>738085909based
>>738121948no. the EU Wii wasnt cheaper even though it wasnt bundled with it by default.
>>738086180>nofilename or anythingmod embed?
>>738106696Retards
>>738122664nvm I'm just retarded, guess it's my settings
>>738084181Reggie really was saving Nintendo in the West
>>738086471Let's asks the question in a different way. What makes japanese gaming companies retain bigger market shares than microsoft? Brand loyality is part of business. They're you're returning customers. Why do I keep going to the dinner that's 10 miles away instead of going to the dinner right next to me? Why do some people only buy GMC or Dodge or Ford trucks?
>>738123340>you'reyour* blaaaargh
>>738084404he opened his japanese eyes for the first time and he unhinged his jaw and then beams of white light shot out from his eyes and mouth and his head started spinning like an owl
>>738084181I wonder how much of the american branch of these japanese companies do all the heavy lifting for the brain dead japanese headquarters. Sega would probably still be in the console business today if Sega of America had more say and control.
>>738084463Jap switch 2 games are dirt cheap at launch. Its almost as if they let the rest of the world pay the difference.Yoshi is 34,- bucks on amazon.jpSplatoon raiders is 32.
>>738121739Nintendo cannot exist without Caligumoto, he has made it so. When he dies, a dead man's switch implanted in his heart will set off explosives in every Nintendo-owned property. Every Nintendo system will explode too. The death toll will reach the billions. And that's exactly what Caligumoto wants.
>>738084386It's full of that Nintendo magic that makes it worth the money
>>738084380sega was also successful with the saturn in japan, but in the rest of world it flopped massively leading to sega one console generation later to quiet the console market completely. just because something works in japan, doesn't mean it works in the rest of the world as well.
>>738090165Well, the idea isn't necessarily to make people happy, but with a bundle it generally just would make the offer more enticing. The intention of it is basically to bank on the user buying additional game now that they have a console, which they probably would. It's why the other console makers sell hardware at a loss
>>738084404his scouter exploded
>>738124642Sega screwed western retailers out with the Saturn because they practically hot-released it without leaving time for retailers to configure their store layout and displays. And Sega rushed a bunch of games for the release.
Is Reggie’s book any good?
>>738123543You people glaze SoA too much. Kalinske was pushing kusoge like night trap and expected the 32x to be able to compete with the ps1 and n64
>>738084380Outselling the PC engine by 50% and the Saturn by 2x is not very impressive in that much larger market. By the same token, the PS3 number are absolutely atrocious >>738123340At this point we have enough leaks to know that if the Xbox division did not get separated out as much as it did, it would face the same problems that any other products such as Windows Phone or Zune faced down the line: Axed once the upper echelons stopped caring.MS is simply bad at doing business.
>>738085909Then everyone clapped
>>738126245wtf is a PC engine
>>738113756cool, thanks>>738114027it's been almost 40 years, you don't need to call everybody retarded all the time.nintendo is a greedy company and there were bootleg cassettes with several games on them, it would not have been farfetched if that was not an official cartridge.
>>738117031>does every game that has improved performance on the switch 2 cost money to upgradeIn what sense? I tested a game I worked on and the few stutters that were there on the original Switch seem to be gone on Switch 2. If you mean higher framerates, it depends on the game. Some games like BOTW and TOTK gatekeep higher framerates behind a five to ten dollar upgrade path, other games like Splatoon 3 get a free patch.
>>738084181Iwata dying, reggie leaving, and shameless "not even trying to be subtle about it" shareholder pandering were the final nails in the coffin of a once juggernaut in gamingSure, they still make games, and sure, there's a minimal amount of quality/ fun that surpasses most of what anyone else pinches out these days (not a high bar, btw), but I believe like everyone else in the industry, they're beyond the point of no return, and gaming as a whole will only continue to be empty and provide fleeting minimal geel good brain chemicals, unlike older classics that people replay all the time, which has inspired the port/ remake/ remaster movement because frankly most everything these days is so uninspired, or lacking in vision or developmental skill
>>738126584NEC computer
>>738084181Thank god for Reggie, turning the Wii into a product people bought just for Wii Sports then never touched it again. Sure was good for the health of the Wii's library, inspiring 99.9% of third party support to just be shitty Wii Sports knock offs that made the system into a shovelware dumping ground. Thankfully he also blocked localizations of interesting Japanese games, and the few that got through got zero marketing, so nobody was even aware anything good came out for the Wii. This marvelous strategy would have immense forward momentum for the WiiU.
>>738086248>they also think that vidya music on youtube is immorali see tons of japs commenting vidya ost on youtube
>>738086498In school I once said that I would rather have a Wii than a PS3/360 and that was because I played most of my games on the computer and I felt like the wii offered something the most different AND my parents were willing to play the wii with me.Kids made fun of me, but I was absolutely right. The Wii's library, even with motion controls, has aged about 10000000000000000x better than all of the horrible FPS/TPS on PS3/360 with their cinematic 20 FPS and bloom out the ass.
>>738084181>Miyamoto says they don't give products for free>Reggie reminds him that the SNES came with SMB>3DS launched with multiple demos that no doubt modern day Nintendo would charge up to 20 bucks for each oneDid the Wii U get any free shit? because after the success of the Wii and 3DS, their kikery got out of hand and they haven't since included anything that isn't a bundle.
>>738127590I dunno about having aged better but yeah, Wii is so simplistic that parents were indeed willing to try bowling occasionally.
>>738128084What I mean is that I don't really ever feel a need to go back and play games from the 360/PS3 era and most of them have just kind of been replaced by the same game but better. Some of the wii exclusives are either more fun with motion controls (imagine playing wii sports on an emulator) or are just in general more fun nowadays. I think Super Mario Galaxy 1/2 might literally mog every single game on the PS3/360 in the year of our Lord 0 + 2020 + 7 - 1
>>738121739As bad as he's gotten over the years, when this man dies whoever's gonna take his place is gonna be worse since Nintendo is now filled with business geriatric types. Right now it's best to keep him distracted with shit movie adaptations and theme parks.
>>738127073>Iwata dying, reggie leaving, and shameless "not even trying to be subtle about it" shareholder pandering were the final nails in the coffin of a once juggernaut in gamingfeels bad
>>738084337What was funny about this announcement was that I had just finished Astro's Playroom which was pretty fun and also free.
>reggie said they would never do dlc, respected their customers, no nickle and diming >now smash bros has over 500 dollars (five hundred) plus dlcthe fuck happened
>>738098348There were a handful of them that came in different NES bundles over the years, Super Mario Bros. + Duck Hunt + World Class Track Meet was a popular 3-in-1.>>738099504>>738099568It bit them in the ass when they opted not to show off the actual console itself when they revealed Wii U. Casuals are an important demographic to attract to your console whethere you like it or not. PS4 had casuals, hardcore gamers and brand loyalists, the Wii U and for a decent while Xbone primarily had brand loyalists buying in.
>>738128259part of that feeling is not having an option tho, there's no new games like wii bowling so you have to go back to those. while 360/PS3 era games have newer versions of fps or whatever.
>>738129270>World Class Track Meetwonder why it was re-released with that strange name when "Stadium Events" sounds better and explains better what it ishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium_Events
>>738129161shareholders breathing down their necks was what happened
>>738090272Literally all of the times Nintendo bundled the games for free were only for the western markets and only after the other office branches negotiated the shit out of getting them as free pack-in titles.
>>738129161They were putting positive spin on the fact that Wii/DS were so far behind that they were incapable of DLC.
>>738126584TurboGrafx-16 in the US
>>738085353>>738085528It's an article written by a pajeet using AI generation, you really expect a modern "game journalist" to know how to write and proof-read his own slop?
>>738085909>Using a honeypot service>Allowing said honeypot service to see what you're doing on your own computer and broadcast it to everyone around you>Lying about having a native Japanese friend to appear cool to a bunch of internet strangers That's your own damn fault.
>japanwhat went so wrong? Even after the 1992 financial bubble burst they were still the coolest and most high tech country on earth, now they've become a total joke?
>>738095639>>738127923At least in Europe Nintendo Land was a pack-in with the black Wii U at release. No one bought the white one anyway. The game was fun, but what I hated about it was that like half of the games were multiplayer only, and it didn't have online play.>>738127590True, the Wii and its games have aged extremely well.>but Wii Sports clone #69!!Yes I'd rather play that than brown piss and bloom FPS #69.>>738128084Wii Sports was the only game I could get my mom to understand and play, even Mario Party was too complicated. Now she's an Animal Crossing only Switch boomer. Shame Switch sports sucked ass and had such ugly unappealing characters and presentation.
>>738130110Something similar to this where senior employees move into management, grow senile, and eventually outnumber new blood. This is true in every country but Japan it's especially egregious because of their worker ant culture.
>>738130110Video games dodged MOST of the economic collapse by hitting its stride in the Megadrive/SNES +arcade- Which meant it was one of the few industries that scaled.The counterpoint is that a lot of people retired in hte late 2000s towards the 2010s, while the weak Japanese economy meant a lot of people where unable to enter jobs that could be gotten out of education in the late 80s and 90s. Hence a large top heavy generational gap.And since its no longer growing, its top heavy, meaning low production. And on top of that there was a few awful bets on the PSP/DS instead of trying to remain at decent production in the B and C class of video games.
>>738088052Koizumi having more influence will be a net positive thoughbeitfully.
>>738130110I dunno, I visited Japan last summer and it was awesome. I was there for 3 weeks and spent a week each in Tokyo, Kyoto, and Osaka (which is pretty much the normalfag trifecta of Japanese cities). I was also pretty depressed for like a whole week after I got back to the US
>>738124927Also stolar holding back literally 75% of the systems library outside of japanWould it have outsold the n64 if they didn't do all that dumb shit?I don't know, but shooting yourself in the foot half a dozen times with a single console sure as hell ain't helping yourself.
>>738130029>Is on a honeypot website>Pretends he has any anonymity>Too autistic to go to any irl events and meet people and projects this onto others
>>7381337984chan wouldn't be so bad if they didn't let all traffic get decrypted through CloudFlare.
>>738134449Some bumfuck sheriff in florida can track down those with a craving for misbehaving on this website
>>738084386>>738084417>>738090167>>738106672>>738128842>poorfags who can't afford the Nintendo tax
>21 ancient games, most of them Nintendo first-party>to keep forever>for $80Imagine how much Nintendo regrets making this lolYou can tell it was desperation after the Wii U flop, they ran away from it as fast as they could in spite of selling out millions of units almost instantly
Miyamoto's greed has always been the problem
>>738137945Also I'm pretty sure you can hack it and just put the entire SNES library on it. Based device honestly.
>>738117714They also speak the worst English out of all of them. They've been spoiled
>>738138057Pirating Nintendo shit has never been physically difficult on anything.I'm pointing more to the moral autism side of it, where Nintendo briefly sold ROMs to keep forever for a low single digit sum of money each. Surely whoever came up with that was compelled to seppuku.
>>738100487meanwhile Japanese twitter...
>>738084386Japs love money almost as much as jews
Why the Reggie threads as of late? He's an insufferable fucktwit that led to multiple jp games not coming over to the west during the Wii era until people campaigned for them to come. Fuck him.
>>738138671At their peak, the Japanese economy was 70% of the size of America's and gaining fast. That's why so much science fiction in the late 80s and early 90s featured Japan as the world superpower.Today the Japanese economy is 15% of the size of America's.
>>738084602>taking this at face valueThis was just a bullshit interview answer because he can't say directly that the point was to milk more money from customers.
>>738114683Sounds like neither them, nor you, can deal with it. Faggot
>>738126801You have to be an especially stupid obtuse nigger to think the SMB/Duck Hunt combo was a bootleg.
>>738122306>Pack-ins have always been deceitful marketing, giving off the illusion of a deal while not actually saving you any money.As opposed to what, blind buying a separate game that might be shit?
>>738130110This logo is just a dick in a butt
>>738138824America's economy can be simply put to a halt with just filtering out Google Ads, Kikebook Ads, X Ads and [whatever ads] at root ISP level, though.Nobody in their right mind would call that an economy.
>>738140873The US is the world's #1 largest producer of food, #2 producer of industrial goods, #1 producer of oil, #2 producer of automobiles, etc.Since people in Shenzhen aren't allowed on the internet, I guarantee you that whatever shithole you live in has a "faker" economy than the US.
>>738138760Most of the time when games are JP only they're that for a reasonAll of the never ever "holy grails" that have ended up being translated have been mid trash overhyped by JSLs
>>738084181>retorted with how the SNES came with SMWBased Reggie. Most of the NES sets also came with a game, be it the gyro ROB shit or mario+duck hunt later on.
>>738084181Now if only they replaced that piece of shit with a classic controller, maybe the console wouldn't have been a piece of shit for soccer moms
>>738141829Soccer moms? Why soccer? Why not American football?
>>738142614https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccer_mom
>>738143028Hockey moms exist!
>Reggiesnoy falseflag threadHe did nothing and I'm glad he's gone, all he can do to stay relevant is to be a nintendeen tier grifter saying shit like this "hnng when i qas here games were better and included!">Switch 2 is alreadybthe fastest selling console ever>Implying people would buy more of them if that 10 dollar game was inWe should kills all snoys
>>738107379>but that's not a dismissal of the entire countryMusic in DBZ games - practically a staple of the Japanese economy at one point - is the safest and most generic metalrock possible because almost everything from riffs, melodies, to entire song chunks were "borrowed" as early as the Famicom games, with Toei only replacing him because other nations found out, and were probably more pissed that Budokai HD got fucked last-minute. They have a serious problem with citations and crediting culturally, and have an>It's okay as long as I don't get caught, and if I do, well, that's their fault for not noticing I probably improved it anyway! anyway, I'm the good guy here, especially since all the shit I copied from was Western, and furthermore-
>>738084404he is not autistic so he can easily read people feelings in their faces
>>738113210>the joke is racism
>>738139741"I had not forgotten so it means everybody else should not have forgotten!"
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