The whole purpose of the class is to avoid getting caught. If you get caught you're supposed to die. You can't complain that the class is weak when it is entirely working within its intended role, you're just bad at playing the class.
The whole purpose of the class is getting shots. If you miss shots you're supposed to die. You can't complain that the class is weak when it is entirely working within its intended role, you're just bad at playing the class.
>>738096372The whole purpose of the class is to push little kart. If you don't you're supposed to die. You can't complain that the class is weak when it is entirely working within its intended role, you're just bad at playing the class.
spy would work better if shooting your teammates did something negative, to prevent random spy checks
>no, no, you see, the class is SUPPOSED to be shit!
>>738097225nohttps://youtu.be/7hUDeUdpvmc?si=Zs8XLNycBUMmlNgO
>>738096372Then clearly the razorback shouldn't be allowed to exist
>>738096372the problem is its easy a shit to get caught, whether its because the enemy team has a pyro just spraying fire all over the place, said enemy team has more than a few hours into the game meaning they know what to look out for, glitches that make disguising as players with certain cosmetics pointless, the respawning giving you an outline of your team members and disguised spies making it even worse, and even when you overcome that chance are you will just get killed after a backstab or two
>spy gets a backstab>but now he's "caught" so he's supposed to die>sniper gets a headshot>still perfectly safe and can keep on sniping uninterruptedyeah that seems about right
It's funny seeing how discourse around this game has changed. Like in 2011 no one was talking about sniper the way they talk about him now -- he's literally just a problem because PC games as a whole have gotten so much better at aiming, not to mention there are people who have been playing TF2 for 2 decades at this point.
>>738097315Yes.
>>738097605That's not funny, it's the logical progression of a meta developing and skill improving over the years and years of playing the same game. Kind of like Melee's first tier list being vastly different than the modern one.>these niggas thought Mario and Zelda were high tier lmfao
>>738097332i didn't say Friendly Fire i said something negative
>>738098006define negative then
>>738097225spychecking already acts as a distraction and a waste of ammoif you aren't a pyro, spychecking takes a decent amount of time and a decent amount of ammo which will leave you unprepared for enemy encounters
>>738098056it does damage to the person who's doing the shooting
>>738098162This would still be a nightmare for normal gameplay because trying to hit just enemies and not hit your allies at all would be incredibly hard, especially for explosive classes
>>738097605one thing that's changed is that most maps nowadays have long sniper sightlines which allows snipers to lock down large portions of the map. it doesn't help that casual tends to push players towards payload maps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71itTjnpxN0) which also tend to have large sniper sightlines intrinsically.
NO ONE SAYS SPY IS A BAD CLASS BECAUSE THEY THINK'S HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD WHEN CAUGHTWHY DO YOU RETARDS KEEP THINKING THAT'S THE ARGUMENT
>pick spy>get behind enemy lines>disguise as any class and pick random voicelines while invisible>distract people so much that they die trying to find you
>>738098330because all these tards can do is make up strawmen to argue against
>>738098056could be somthing as simple as point loss for the player or as large as reduced knockbackmaybe even some form of feed back only seen by the person shooting like blood when being shot or looking like they are on fire.The point is, is that The reason spy is bad in TF2 is because it's supposed to help break stalemates with engi buildings and slow down/shut down the other team from getting back to the front easily. that's not feasible because any one can just freely shoot at anyone and if they arn't a spy nothing happens if they are then you killed the spy.Maybe make it so only Scout can really see if someone is a spy by shooting at them or bumping into them like it did in TFC
>>738098476>pick spy>get behind enemy lines>disguise as demoman and use "battle cry" voice line with knife active while aiming at enemies>AAHHM GON'TA STRANGLE YOU WIT ME BARE HAANNDDS>OOOOHHH I'M GONNA BEAT YOU SO HARD YOU'LL HAVE A TWITTCCHH>they get paranoid and start searching around for me
>>738097315how does one achieve this physique natty
>>738098997eat a strict diet of only fast food and twinkies for about five years
>>738096372Spy is the most OP class, literally can kill anyone instantly with no chargeup
>>738096372The gayest shit about the TF2 fandom is that Valve invents one of the nost creative takes on a way "win" in a FPS game, and TF2 players, especially the competitive niggers, go out of their way to strip everything ubique about Spy. And whats worse is they did it to Heavy, they did it to Pyro, they did it to every ounce of fun the game has because fun isn't "fair". They're the SSB perma virgins who scream and cry and cum at tourneys when their N64 controller isn't broken in the very specific way that lets Fox exploit 12 different bugs that let you cheat, only in the context of a shooter rather than a fucking party game. No fucking wonder Valve gave up, I fucking would have. Christ, I'd have shut the game down out of pure fucking spite.
The whole purpose of the class is to get random crits. If you don't get random crits you're supposed to die. You can't complain that the class is weak when it is entirely working within its intended role, you're just unlucky.
>>738097605It's crazy how good the average tf2 player is compared to the early 2010's. My interest in playing the game plummeted when it went from socializing on community servers to needing to grind MGE just so that I can play a pub and not get rolled.
>>738098476i still cannot believe that jewish drukmann copyrighted all those tlou2 imageslmao
>>738096372Spy is meant tonto take cloak and dagger and just...watch it all unfold
>>738097315Where did you get this picture of me?
>if spy gets caught he should instantly die>sniper misses a shot:
Funny how people call spy the weakest class, when he has the single strongest attack in the game. No other attack can kill any class with any amount of health, overheal, or resistance.
>>738104234woah, is this true?
>>738096372>If you get caught you're supposed to die.Oh yeah?
>>738096372What's the whole purpose of the pyro?
>>738107223to give lobotomites a class to play
>>738107223Pyro is a supportive class that's there to make sure everything is running smoothly. Whether that be by checking for spies, applying afterburn debuffs on enemies to hinder their pushes/defenses, defending your own push/defense with airblasts or simply keeping watch over your engies sentry nest. He's the ultimate helping hand.Spy is the opposite, existing entirely to spread paranoia and keep the enemy team on their toes.
>>738109216we posting real mercs now?
>>738107223https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjA-lEt1sQA>[Marc Scaparro] The Pyro is designed to be the best short-range combat class, aimed at encouraging players to adopt an ambush style of play. To achieve this, we made the Pyro vulnerable in the open, which forces players to seek out enclosed areas and doorways. To add to the Pyro's short range lethality, we made the flamethrower effects visually noisy, which helps disorient opponents long enough for the flames to finish them off.
I preferred when Spy's backstab was the slow downward stab animation but guaranteed a kill even if they turned toward you during the animation.
>>738110406He looks both like medic but also an older scout.
