these things were unacceptably large
>>738097595Your life.
Where else were we supposed to capture the ghosts?
>>738097595why was this shit so large to begin with?whats in there?nobody ever explained this bulky grey turd.
>>738097729
>>738097774the original 360 was designed by retards
>>738097774It's so that the power supply is not inside the console.
This is how they kept the 360 slim. PS3 is fat because theirs is is inside.
>>738097774It's the same as any cord with the big online block. Converts AC to DC, regulates voltage and current, and helps with noise in the line. The big chunky ones are just more robust and keeps the extra heat from all the power management outside of the console which already runs hot.
>>738098046>This is how they kept the 360 slim>Somehow, in the most simple way, a critical heat flaw despite getting rid of the power supply internallyThey were so close...
>>738098161>>738097940>>738097945playstation never had this shit
>>738098198They swapped to lead free solder right before it got banned. It has far worse heat tolerance than lead solder.
>>738098198Ackshully the 360 failure rate was primarily from a design flaw endemic to GPU manufacturing at the time. 90nm PS3 RSX has the same issue, as do all GPUs from late 2006 to late 2008.
Why did the ps3 not have a thing like this?
>>738098464right before lead solder got banned*
>>738098392PSOne had a separate power supply, anon.
>>738098465My day 1 ps3 actually died in 2011 but my 360 never died
>>738098485The PSU is inside that's why it's so fat. Wii also had a external brick to make it slim.
>>738097945Well thats retarded, its a home console not a mobile device that has to be as slim as possible
>>738098392PSOne and the first PS2 slim had
>>738098620If the PSU bricks you just replace the PSU instead of sending the whole console.
>>738098546My elite cod mw3 360 died just as I finally acquired outrun 2006 coast to coast and was gonna play it recently
>>738097595I miss my 360. it red ringed of death when I was on level 108 on hexit. the game and system couldn't compete...
>>738098682the system would rather burn itself to death than lose to a human
>>738097945still didn't help lolimagine how much worse RROD would be if you had a PSU contributing to the heat as well
>>738098392Retard.
>>738098392huh?
>>738098620That shit hearkens back to the NES days and before.
Why did the 7th gen consoles have such high failure rate compared to literally every other gen before and after?
>>738098741it's too much. I don't miss this
>>738098770Look up the Capacitor Plague and when Lead Solder got banned
>>738098485Because PStriple was fucking huge
>>738098760ever had a Sega game gear? we had to buy multiple because our cat bit through the cords.
>>738098682One of the most based ways for a console to die
>>738098682My 360 died playing Gears of War like many others did
>>738098870it was weird. I was playing hitman blood money the day before, and this fucking system couldn't handle a simple math game
PS1/N64 = games run like shitPS2/Gamecube gen = games run greatPS3/360 = games run like shitPS4 gen = games run greatPS5 gen = games run like shit
>>738098942It's the heating and cooling cycles that kill it. Heat with hitman, cool with arcade.
>>738098620>internal power supplyWhy would you want that? A home console only has to be a home console; that doesn't mean it has to be big just because>>738098770graphic memes and chasing the impression of cutting edge tech, they left build quality and reliability on the sidelines just like game performance
>>738098870>>738098902it literally deleted itself
>>738098770They ran hot compared to older consoles needing significant cooling which earlier ones didn't to anything like the same degree. Later gens benefited from lessons learned and more refined, more efficient technologies.
>>738098856That is not even to most egregious thing. If you had a Genesis, Sega CD, and a 32X, you had three of those things. Sega even had their own power bar to accommodate that situation.
>>738098902that sucks
>>738098465nope, PS3 issue wasn't related to that. It's just the caps. People would replace the RSX at the time thinking that was solving the problem, but they were actually doing is heating up the caps in the process which would make them last a bit longer before failing again.
My PS3 fat died while playing Skyrim the week it came out. I remember it died on the map screen and it went all weird and pixelated and weird colours. I recall a funny coincidence where my roommate at the time his xbox 360 died while playing skyrim and the disc itself broke the disc drive or something.
>>738098682360's equivalent of crapping out by having a stellar tetris run on GB. I commend you, Peter Moore would be proud
>>738099006I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about ac/dc dick you power supplies
>>738099006Fuck im an old sega fag and didn't know of that. Don't even wanna know what they sell for today
>>738099076I was super pissed because I couldn't be stopped and the system cooked itself
>>738098682Is an emulator the only way to play this version of Hexic? I can't find hexic hd anywhere, at least not that specific version.
>>738099037NEC Tokin capacitors are known for failure, but every single 90nm PS3 RSX (and every other GPU from that era) will die from the same exact bumpgate design failure.
>>738099116$200+ on ebay is where I got that pic.
N64 was pretty smart with this, it's a brick but it kinda sits inside the case. If it fails, you can just replace it.
>>738098981>>738099014On the bright side Microsoft replaced it for free and gave me 3 year warranty.
>>738099150it was only avaliable on 360. I'm sure you can emulate it now
>>738099132>I couldn't be stopped and the system cooked itselfYou were cooking... the system
>>738099181good for you
>>738099201the 360 robbed me of a high score
>>738099201turns out I cooked the 360
>>738099150The game is apparently a flash file so you can play it in Ruffle or another flash player if youe extract it.
>>738099178Yeah, they stuck the wart and the console and not at the wall. It was a smart thing to do.
I was trying to get to level 110 for the night, and that piece of shit just cooked itself.
at least we got the 360 wired remote
Are the inline transformers that big of a deal to you guys? I prefer them. Keeps extra heat out of the device and is replaceable if it shits the bed and power supplies is what shits the bed more often then not and the device is perfectly fine otherwise. They can be pricey but not as expensive as a whole new device or sending the device in and waiting six months for them to swap out an internal one.
>>738097595Now that I'm thinking about it, how the hell did the 360 overheat when it's power supply was external?
>>738099479Heat fracture. It was an internal temp issue.
>>738099479Design flaw between the cooler and GPU. Xenos had very high failure rate and Microsoft and ATI both wanted to move on from it.
>>738099156Bumpgate isn't related to the GPU thing, it's just a design failure, TSMC didn't fabricate the RSX for these models. Sony even addressed this later by putting a brace under the RSX for consoles they'd get for repair.
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>>738099593found ithttps://aceconsolerepairs.com.au/the-truth-about-the-90nm-rsx/
>>738097595Still better than the modern alternative where if the internal PSU dies its a pain to fix the device.
>>738098741Takes me back...
>>738099661>My belief is that a poor design(rigidity),board size and clamping structure are what leads to common BGA failure on the larger COK motherboards.>larger COK motherboards
>>738099661>I have been reballing 90nm RSX’s since 2009 and have done 1000’s of them for customers and sales.Gee I wonder if this guy has any interest in lying about an unfixable flaw with early PS3 models? Nah.
>>738099463>They can be priceyCan you even source brand new 360 power supplies nowadays?
>>738099759how would lying benefit him exactly
>>738099854Which sounds better: this problem is fixable (that'll be 200 dollars please) or yeah that's fucked (no money exchanges hands).
>>738099820Not official Microsoft ones but you can get new third party ones.
>>738099675In most consoles it's just remove 4-6 screws and disconnect the little shit from the board. But fuck whoever designed the PS5.
the best thing we got from the 360 was the wired controller
>>738099940I'd refuse to work on the ps5. doesn't matter how much they'd pay me
>>738097595>>738097774Compensating for their microdicks
>>738099906ditch it and buy a used one
>>738097595it's almost like a lot of old consoles are garbage, dust collectors...
>>738099463>Keeps extra heat out of the devicewhat fucking good did it do? you still had heat issues melting shit off the motherboard giving you a red ring of death. it was the worst designed piece of shit and caused the utter ruin of xbox. i sure as hell never bought another system from microsoft again.
>>738099463you already know the answer
>>738100043new/old
The N64 having an "external" PSU that plugs into the console instead of being inline or plugged into the wall was genius design and I can't believe that literally nothing else ever designed their PSU like that.
>>738099638>he likes to fucking finger his ass
>>738098770bumpgate
>>738099201>>738099256it was what's for dinner that night
>>738099906Dude literally says the "fix" people came up with has the same problem and that the problem is design related, it's just not related to TSMC GPU thing. And he's not the only one to arrive at this conclusion.At this point everyone knows FATs are ticking time bombs and will eventually fail, but people still want them and want to repair them when they inevitably fail.
>>738099201my coworkers at the TV station I worked at said just to ship it to microslop to get it fixed.. I refused. I still have it but if it's that bad it shouldnt be fixed even for free
>>738098770Capacitor plague and lead free solder.The 360 in particular was EXTREMELY rushed to beat the PS3 to market and basically shipped with an unfinished cooling design so any early motherboard revisions inevitably cook themselves to death.
>>738100291>it's just not related to TSMC GPU thing.It is though, objectively 100% proven beyond a doubt. Just look at this thread to see how successfully covered up bumpgate was.
ahem
I'm the hexic guy... the bad thing is I traded all my game cube games in for a version 1 360. do I hate mysel? yes
>>738100471what's wrong with that?
>>738100392RSX was not manufactured by TSMC until 40nm from late slims. It's simply not the same issue.
>Europe is so cool we only have one plug!!!>what? well uhhh yeah actually we use C, F, K, L, E, J...europeans are absolute morons
wish I still had my game cube
>>738100587why is the United States red?
>>738100546Absolutely nothing, it's the best of both worlds.
>>738100471That was the best way to handle it. No wall wart. No floor brick. Still separate from the console.
>>738100616I love my n64. it will always work
>>738100578Whatever chink factory made it, the issue is the same.
>>738100587They do have one plug that is compatible with all their other retarded standards, but why they didn't standardize everything at this point is beyond me.
>>738100613because we use a normal plug like a normal country...
>>738100616do you have the expansion pack?
>>738100731I've seen your plugs. they're retarded as shit
>>738100762what else am I supposed to use, nerd?
>>738100762We invented that shit.
>>738100731are you Australian? you're plugs are completely retarded
>>738097595It's either external or internal, and internally it would have melted the components even worse than they already are
>>738100785you invented it electricity? Benjamin Franklin would like to have a word with you fuck 3rd worlder
>>738100640Nope, bumpgate affects 90nm TSMC only, which is why many devices from the same era didn't suffer from it.
>>738100784you use what's available
>>738100616>>738100471>>738100631A floor brick is better because it makes it so the console itself doesn't take up as much space on a wall unit or table.
>>738097595I remember when the console launched some of these were catching fire so MS had to recall and send a bunch of new ones. Must've cost them millions.
>>738100785do but redeem saar
>>738100879>which is why many devices from the same era didn't suffer from it.Every GPU from that era is fucked.
>>738100921it did cost Microslop thousands and millions
>>738100868I might just be drunk, but you're calling out the wrong guy here. I'm am 100% born and bread USA.
>>738100745I had back in the day, but still haven't got one for the N64 I got 3 years ago. Can't justify paying 2x what I paid for the console + 2 controllers + Mario 64 and Goldeneye just a pak yet
>>738100986who is we? I'm also a drunk American
>>738100986I don't understand why the USA is red. I think it's your fault
>>738099638these were better, you can feel the weight, could kill a nigga with a good throw.
>>738101037By we I mean Americans. Franklin was an American.
>>738100953What's the last time you heard of a Wii with a dead GPU? Oh yeah you never did because it was fabricated by NEC.
>>738101019I recommend a 3rd party expansion pack. I think they've gotten costly lately.. good lixk
>>738101076looks like something that caused lots of house fires
>>738100195Listen you little shit!
>>738101096frankly speaking he was a whore monger
>>738101087Because that is the color image maker chose to represent that type of plug.
>>738101165what does red mean though?
>>738101113Early Wii GPUs are actually known for artifacting. People generally blame Wii Connect 24 for this, but that makes no sense because it only affects the early models.
>>738101157I'm listening
>>738101130I heard these are bad since they use 2 chips instead of 1 so they heat up and end up freezing due to insufficient cooling. I will find one for cheap eventually, I'm just not paying the scam tier prices for 2-3 games I'm not dying to play.
>>738101216>Early Wii GPUs are actually known for artifactingThis explains a lotT. Owned a launch Wii I even camped out overnight for mine, think I sold it in 2014
>>738101263there is no difference between 3rd party and real Nintendo expansion. I own both. they work the same
>>738099150>not that specific versionisn't the backwards compatible version the exact same thing? What's the difference?
>>738101263>>738101315don't get ripped off
>>738101201Are you fucking stupid? Can you not read a chart? Light red means type A plugs. Dark red means type A and B plugs. Jesus Christ. Did you even graduate elementary school?
>>738101359I'm not stupid I'm just ignorant to you're retarded map
>>738101216>>738101310It does because Wii Connect 24 + standby makes the GPU heat up but the cooler doesn't turn on, so it cooks itself. Later models don't heat up as much so they just get passively cooled.
>>738101359>>738101398give me a break and tell me why America is red
>>738101216>People generally blame Wii Connect 24 for thisIt was. Nintendo even patched it with a system menu update
>>738101359can you not simplify why it's red?
>>738101432Trump, red is republican
>>738101359https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/>The National Adult Literacy Survey groups literacy scores into five levels. Individuals scoring in Level1 have an 80% chance of successfully performing tasks similar in difficulty to locating an expiration date on a driver’s license and totaling a bank deposit slip. They are not routinely able to perform Level2 tasks, such as determining the price difference between two show tickets or filling in background information on an application for a social security card. Level 3 difficulty includes writing a brief letter explaining an error in a credit card bill and using a flight schedule to plan travel. Level 4 tasks include restating an argument made in a lengthy news article and calculating the money needed to raise a child based on information in a news article. Only at Level 5 are individuals routinely able to perform mental tasks as complex as summarizing two ways that lawyers challenge prospective jurors (based on a passage discussing such practices) and, with a calculator, determining the total cost of carpet to cover a room.Although these tasks might seem to represent only the inconsequential minutiae of everyday life, they sample the large universe of mostly untutored tasks that modern life demands of adults. Consistently failing them is not just a daily inconvenience, but a compounding problem. Likening functional literacy to money-it always helps to have more-, literacy researchers point out that rates of socioeconomic distress and pathology (unemployment, adult poverty, etc.) rise steadily at successively lower levels of functional literacy (as is the pattern for IQ too; Gottfredson, 2002a)…Such disadvantage is common, too, because 40% of the adult white population and 80% of the adult black population cannot routinely perform above Level2. Fully14% and 40%, respectively, cannot routinely perform even above Level1 (Kirsch et al 1993, pp.119121).
>>738101523no I'm being serious
>>738101523you want to be retarded about this kind of shit then then go back to your containment board >>>/b/ or give me a serious answer
>>738101315>>738101335There is, but some third parties are just official ones rebranded.https://bitbuilt.net/forums/threads/n64-expansion-paks-ram-part-numbers.3943/
is it red because your shit hole country has different plug ins?
>>738101534So it's retarded and I am wasting my time. Figured as much.
>>738101638I have a 3rd party expansion pack and it's awesome. like what I was saying. it doesn't have to be brand named
>>738100613because the chart had to pick some color for it. might as well ask why Brazil is yellow. are you 8?
>>738099954And Mass Effect 2.
>>738100613one plug has ground and the other hasn'thonestly it's better than whatever japan did
>>738101638shit used to be $20
>>738101706which brand?
>>738097774jeet engineering
>>738101862I'm too lazy to dig it out. it wasn't Nintendo I'll tell you that
>>738101821It's even more expensive where I live, it's bullshit lol
>>738099201Cooked all around
>>738097595THATS WHAT SHE SAID
>>738100587What I don't get is how they all agreed on C, but when it came to ground they just went full retard.
>>738099006SMEGMA!
>>738101894
>yeah lets use 50 hz!>..but let's use 10 more/less volts than literally everyone else around us, that's a great idea!fucking morons the lot
>>738102226fucking 100v no wonder japs are so efficient
>>738101817As I understand it Japanese plugs basically don't need ground because of some weird way they wire everything. There are a few exceptions which is where you get the weird ground fork.
>>738101894>>738102113>develop your xbox and windows
American one is LITERALLY THE WORST https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#Comparison_of_standard_types
I don't know about you but I'd buy a console the size of one of those old TVs you had to build a piece of furniture around just to have space for it in your house as long as it was guaranteed never to overheat/wear down and used all the extra space to give me more BLAST PROCESSING or whatever the fuck makes it run fast at a stable FPS
>>738102537I miss console tvs.
>Poorfag, can't afford games>Learn how to flash and fix 360s and download 100s of games>They all keep RRODing>The 7th one I bought I put a water cooling system in>Still RROD after 2 monthsWhat was the RROD rate on the first wave of 360?I think I read it was something like 75% ?Imagine that shit today
>>738102285>Some weird way they wiredThat's called "Double insulated", it's not really all that weird. 95% of the electronics you use are double insulated. The US just have different codes about what will require a ground connection that is more strict when it is or isnt needed.
>>738102285Yes, only laundry machines and washing machines come with earth cables.Even in the instructions it says that it's "generally not needed".
>>738102650high thanks to jeet engineering
>>738102865Kekw, I remember baking so many of them with an actual 50% success rate.Worst hardware I've ever had.
>>738102285I looked it up, it's just a bit less safe since they don't require ground fault protection. Grounding is overrated anyway, it isn't necessary everywhere.
You know what the holes are for, right?
>>738102951manufacturers saving money by taking holes out of our things. fucking enshittification of the worldFILL OUR HOLES
>>738102650even i got one and i never have bad luck with electronics. although to its credit i did the towel trick and it kept on trucking for another 6 or so months
>>738102951I watched a video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udNXMAflbU8
>>738102951speed
>>738102951so mom can put a lock in there when jimmy misbehaves
Wii had a surprisingly huge transformer since it only needs 15w to run. There have been mods to power this console with a usb-c cable ffs. With the sensor bar included this thing had ugly cable management for a small console.The WiiU was even worse because the tablet ALSO had its own giant brick charger. Thank god the Switch cleaned all that up. No more sensor bar, no more dangling power-bricks, no more AA batteries, no more nunchucks laying loose. It was like spring cleaning when I got rid of my WiiU
>>738103197It's the disc drive, the board itself draws around 10-15W during gaming, but with the drive it can peak much higher.>>738101216It was the WC24 killing early models, the almost non-existent heatsink can't cope with nearly 10W without a fan.
>>738103498>It's the disc driveSo does the usb-c mod not work with discs? I know modern wiifags homebrew everything so maybe they haven't tested it.
>>738103742If your USB-C brick can handle it, why not. Any fast charger can output 30-40W, which should be enough.
>>738102951So that they can hang the blades on a bar when it goes into the machine that injects the plastic around it so you can do like 10 of them at once in a single mold instead of one at a time.
>>738102951hole technology
>>738104508The future was yesterday.
>>738104683Who would have thought back then that hole technology would turn out to be so revolutionary to gaming mice?
>>738098770Rushed generation. Microsoft saw an opportunity from Nvidia failing to cooperate. They were going to make an Xbox slim and launch 360 in late 2006. Nvidia refused to offer chips at lower prices despite the hardware approaching half a decade old so Microsoft had no room to lower original Xbox prices and working with IBM wanted a product that would match Sony's Cell feature set but be a simpler design, so the engineers for this project went to the Cell team, worked with them to debug a simpler 3 core chip.Because there was so much crunch to get this thing out by 2005, they cut back on tons of certification and second checks. Partners outsourced to partners who were trusted because their partners used them, so it was a network of trust pushed to its absolute limit.Turns out one of the partners produced bad underfill compound that has a very low melt point. This partner was trusted by Apple, Nvidia, Toshiba, ATi, AMD (different companies at the time) and many others. So of course they were good.No worries, a little bit of failure is expected, well turns out the upper limit of heat hit by these chips hit the point of thermal expansion to cause flexing and damage to the BGA solder holding the CPU to the interposer.Well once word got out failure's were pretty widespread home repairs also became pretty widespread. Putting consoles in ovens, wrapping them in towels, stopping fans, and sometimes even putting pennies on them and applying pressure. Gamestop liked the idea of the last one and as part of their refurbishment program they developed their own heatsink mount replacing the x-clamps microsoft used. Said x-clamps distributed pressure and tension nicely across the board to not cause damage, safely holding the heatsinks to chips and fitting in a tight package.They thought nuts and bolts would do the same thing and even better than the clamps, and then introduced a ton more failure to the 360's in circulation.What an amazing time to be alive.
>>738101894>>738102301>>738102113RROD was only when jeets were in tech support.Blame pic related for rushing the console out to be the first in 7th gen with no regard to cooling or power management.
>>738098770It didn't. People just think it did.Both the PS1 and PS2 also had extremely high failure rates. PS2 especially so. There was over a dozen hardware revisions for the PS2 because Sony couldn't get the damn thing to work reliably. There was a class action lawsuit against Sony which they lost because of the PS2's extremely high failure rate and Sony refusing to honor warranties and charging people for repairs.The western version of the NES also was notorious for breaking and leading to kids doing stupid shit like blowing into the cart to try to get it to work. The controllers were also pieces of shit that failed quickly.The dreamcast had a notoriously unreliable drive.The jaguar was notoriously crap.It's less about gens and more about whether or not they just designed a shitty piece of hardware. Every player in the market has designed a piece of shit at some point.
>>738103742The board itself is smart, you just need a powerful enough adapter
>>738105424yeah but none would fail catastrophically as 7th gen consoles (360 and PS3 actually, Wii was fine)the answer is simply cutting edge tech + lots of heatconsoles used to be basically passively cooled so out of nowhere they had to worry about that too
>>738105252Nah, I don't think that white engineers would be able to release such a fucked up hardware with so high failure rates.There are no other explanatiom but jeets.
>>738105673We can't forget that the Xbox 360 coincided with Windows Vista, another fuck up.
I would do anything to be able to play amped 3 again, its just not worth getting a whole ass 360 for it
>>738106004Windows Vista was not a fuck up though.Windows Vista's release was largely the same as Windows XP's release, i.e. hardware and software support was initially not very good just because it was such a big change to the OS but eventually the third parties caught up and it was perfectly fine to use. It's just most of /v/ is far too young to have known what Windows XP's release was like and why there was so much "I'm never going to upgrade to Windows XP! Windows 98SE is all you need!" at the time. /v/ just thinks Windows XP was brilliant from day 1 and doesn't know what a service pack is.Also it's funny to see people shit on Vista and praise 7 in the same breath because there wasn't really a huge difference between these two OS.t. someone who was alive when XP came out and ran Vista for several years after the release of 7 because there was no need to upgrade
>>738097595One of my cats liked to use it as a big warm pillow.
>>738105673Nah, you have a more detailed explanation here >>738105126
>>738098136Came here for this. Thank you
>>738106293I was there. It was a fuck up, both software and hardware wise. XP was a bliss after SP1 and perfected with SP3, Vista would only become truly usable after SP2, which came when 7 was already out and had everything it had and more.
it's always funny to think that these things are designed by professional engineers that were paid money and they always have some horrible easy to avoid flaw.
>>738097774its the blast processor
>>738106293>Windows Vista was not a fuck up though.It absolutely was. The market rejected it and most people stuck with XP until 7. It's basically the windows 11 of it's time, except people had higher standards back then and rejected it even harder.
>>738106471yeah because it's often a bunch of separated teams working on their own complex thing then they have to put it all together and shit happens
>>738097595This was literally groundbreaking technology compared to the bulky ones they put right on the plug that only let you plug 3 things max into a surge protector. Zoomers don't know how good they have it.
>>738105126>Partners outsourced to partners >Turns out one of the partners produced bad underfill compoundThat's exactly how jeet/chink labor works
>>738099150You can play it on my 360. Although I fucked up by connecting it to the internet and now it runs slow as shit. Biggest mistake I ever made.
>>738098620It does though. Back in the day you didn't mount your TV on the wall, you put it on a piece of furniture, and that piece of furniture had limited space. You were competing with a VCR, a DVD player, and sometimes even a sound system. The smaller you made your device, the higher chance it had of always being out, always being used, and always having games bought for it.
>>738106502>The market rejected itNo, it didn't. It met sales estimates. Microsoft stock price went up to reflect the success of the product and didn't see a decline until the GFC years later which hit everyone.>It's basically the windows 11 Windows 11 is also doing quite well. In fact, it has outperformed Windows 10 in this regard.Maybe Windows 8 was more what you were thinking? You clearly have no idea what you are actually talking about and are just making things up.
>>738106810>Windows 11 is also doing quite wellActual delusion. You don't have more than 30% share of the market refusing to use it over your previous OS even after actively forcing people to upgrade without asking with successes. Only shills try to pretend 11 is anything other than a catastrophic mess. It's bad enough they are trying to rebrand with k2(which will be more of the same, but marketing will pretend otherwise).
>>738098392The PS2 slim was notorious for its external PSU overheating and shutting the console off.
>>738106996More people have upgraded from Windows 10 to Windows 11 since it's release than had upgraded from Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 in the equivalent timeframe. And Microsoft literally gave Windows 10 away for free. By your own logic that would mean Windows 10 was a bigger failure than Windows 11. Why then did you compare to Windows 11 rather than Windows 10? Is you position that Vista was as big a "failure" as Windows 11 but not as big a "failure" as Windows 10?
>>738107102I wish we didnt have to make stuff up because we hate snoy so much.
>>738099463Worrying about external transformers is like how people used to worry about CRTs>it's so BIIIIG omg I can't evenWho cares how big it is
>>738107209I can speak from experience, and it's not like the PS2 didn't exactly have particularly great build quality compared to the other three. Not that I have any nostalgia for 6th gen, anyway.
>>738107154Windows 7 didn't auto update to 10 behind your back. 10 auto updated to 11 whether you wanted to or not. That means a large portion of people hated 11 enough uninstall it and go back. (people savvy enough to block updates are the extreme minority)
>>738107289Oh it's anecdote parading as analysis.
>>738107365>10 auto updated to 11 whether you wanted to or not.That is not true. I'm still on Windows 10. Every time I get a pop up that says "Want to upgrade to Windows 11" I just click "No" and then it doesn't. Five years of me just going "No thanks" and it has never installed Windows 11. I have not done any hacks or anything to Windows 10 to stop an auto-update. I never block any updates except for just opting out of the Windows 11 update which is a big fucking full screen you can't miss. It just does actually let you decline it.
>>738107515Whatever helps you cope microsaar, it won't save your reputation at this point.
>>738107615>microsaarIf I was actually this I'd be on Windows 11, you fucking moron.
Fucking thing was $70 too. When I bought my 360 I wanted to have it so I could just take the console from the tv room to my bedroom but the brick price killed that idea
It's a good idea that helps repairs and keeps heat out of the console.
PSUs die first. Easy replaceable ones are max comfy. Whole system dying because ssd soldered to motherboard etc is so stupid I don't even.
Lightning stormBvvt oh no my power supply.VsPfft oh fuckety fuck my whole fucking console ugu.
