Congratulations to Nintendo
>>738106891PS2 has sold more.
>>738106891Wasn't the PS2 at 160 million? Granted I believe in a few years the Switch will surpass it anyway. And 155 million is a crazy good number, though I understand, this system was a hit. A total contrast with the Wii U lol
>>738107247>>738107284Sony was at 155 million exactly and then when Nintendo stated to catch up, they retconned it and claimed 160, which is pointless anyway because Switch will overtake that as well. Lets also not forget that PS2's first end sale number was 150 million until the DS was confirmed at 154, so they pulled the same shit back then too.
>>738107438Oh I also agree the Switch will catch up. I wonder if they will find five million extra sales?
>>738107438>>738107527How is it even possible that Switch will do 5m more? It’s end of life and switch 2 is cannibalizing most sales of the original. It has fallen off sharply and halves year over year. Meaning it will be at roughly 158m by March 2027. If it can even keep the pace up.
>>738107594It'll continue selling for a few years 2-3 millions s year easily, especially if they get some discount going.
>>738107594>Switch is at its end of life No it isn't. It hasn't even have one discount yet. The day Nintendo officially discounts it is the day it will go over 160 million. It is inevitable.
>>738107438PS2 still outsold this dud.
>>738107716>>738107696>discounts in this economy>trying to fend off a switch 2 price hikeIf anything they might hike the 1 again to save the 2s momentum
>>738107438Sony will 'find' an extra couple of million units when the Switch gets really close to the PS2's made up number and it will be hilarious.
>>738106891>console
>>738107247>>738107284nobody believe on those recent sales sony found on fictional places
>>738107765>t-t-they'll increase the price and that will prevent it!!! Keep coping
>>738107821They're real, I verified them.
>>738107832Seriously. How would it even be possible to lower the price of it? They’re probably struggling as it is to keep both of them profitable. And hiking the switch 2 would be kind of bad for its momentum and initial install base. Ain’t no way they’ll lower the price of anything. The RAM and whatever else parts market is ridiculous.
>>738107836
>>738107247/thread
>>738107438I can't wait for the day they Switch goes over 160million, the Snoy seethe will be delicious. I might take the week off work so I can make as many gloating 'laugh at snoys' threads as possible.
>>738107954Actually it's from a message board.
>>738108000It’s falling quick though
>>738107284Nope, shitny finding 10 million units out of nowhere when the last ps2 sold was 13 years ago is retarded and total bitter sore loser faggotry on their end.They've always been an extremely insecure company
>>738106891I was right with NS1 sales but I really can't predict NS2 sales at all. Higher price but getting shit like GTA 6 and FF/RE etc? NS2 could sell basically for the next 12-14 years before some might not be able to afford anything else
>>738106891When is the next quarterly report? Those numbers are from February.>>738107247*taps sign*
>>738108342FF and RE sold next to nothing on the switch 2. And GTA 6 is too much for switch 2 to run.
>>738108401Next week.
>>738108412Why lie? These games broke records thanks to Nintendo.
>>738108531It’s still not a big mover for said franchises. If PS and PC sold 900k of the units and switch 2 did 101k, then yeah it did push it over a million, but the audience isn’t there like it is elsewhere
>>738108893Again... why lie?
>>738107594switch hardware sells 30-50k units a week in Japan alone
>>738109056What was a lie?>>738109072Does that mean that it will hold at that rate long term? Before Tomodachi it was consistently doing around ps5 numbers.
>>738106891mostly just play arcade games
I just sold 100m more ps2s to brazil
>>738107284>>738107438PS2 was at 155M recently too until the 20th Anniversary podcast of the PS2 where Jim Ryan presented a plaque with the 160M PS2 manufactured (not sold). Sony took that figure and updated their sales numbers overnight.
>>738109072A month sure but why lie there are multiple famitsu threads every week it averages around 12k a week
>>738107716>It hasn't even have one discount yetAnd that would still position it as a budget option in 2026.
>>738107247fpbptendies btfo forever
Also Sony sold a couple PS3 that had emotion engines and graphics synthesizers in them and weren't counted as PS2 sales but technically it was a full PS2 hardware and don't forget the Namco arcade boards that used Emotion Engines, you can never really beat PS2
>>738109306>forever Giga cope, 2 years maximum until Switch goes over 160mil and Snoy can no longer pull extra numbers out of their ass
>>738109134>Before Tomodachi it was consistently doing around ps5 numbers.On a week to week basis Switch outsells PS5 consistently. PS5 only competes during holidays
>>738109476>2 more years>Trust the plan
>>738108401>More than 155You do know 160 is more than 155, right?
>>738109494Barely. It generally does similar to ps5 figures.
>>738107594>How is it even possible that Switch will do 5m more?PS2 was only at 117m in March 2007, they'll Nintendo will manage.>>738107807They can't. They're essentially locked in at ~160m units sold, because the final PS2 ever manufactured has the number 160,636,885 on it. Which is already ridiculous on its face because there is no way they only sent out 636,885 demo units, replacements, etc. over the entire lifespan of the system.
>>738109571yeah and right now it's listed as more than 160, so akshully they probably sold more like 400 billion amirite?ebin win sony bros!!
>>738109261>averages 12k a weekwhy lie? these are the past 7 weeks>27,139>31,496>21,134>16,342>18,754>19,941>23,770
>>738109696160 is the final number. I don't know why you're sperging out over it.
>>738109261>it averages around 12k a weekwe're talking about the Switch not the PS5 bwo
>tendies are scared that shitch wont hit 160 million
>>738106891
>>738109967Snoytranny strawmans badly, continues to be a retarded faggot.
>>738109826Didn’t the original switch see a jump in the past few weeks due to Tomodachi? As you can see before that it was indeed dropping from whatever high it had before
>>738109681The switch 1 is falling quick though. The ps2 had insane legs.
>>738110159lol
I think Nintendo might get to the top with a cheaper, end of the line Nintendo switch like the Wii mini.Or that was the Nintendo switch lite?
Love PS1 and PS2. Like PS3 and PS4. I do not like Jim Ryan and take anything he says at sub-face value. Dude's never done or said a likable thing, so when he shits out 160 million for PS2 I'm compelled to believe that was just off the cuff.
>>738109967Nah, it's inevitable
>>738110071It has the past couple of weeks but without the bump it still sells closer to 20k weekly
>People actually fell for the 160M bullshitAt this point Sony could rise the number to 200 and you would still believe it kek
>>738107438Sony is fucking pathetic.
>>738110890I believe OFFICIAL numbers
>>738111048The official number is 160 MANUFACTURED units. That is not the same thing as a sale
>>738106891Yay!
Cool. Release your games on the switch 1 then
>>738106891When are we getting updated numbers?
>>738111410The 8th.
>>738107284Sony added 5 millions once slighly after DS passed 150 mil, and then added 5 millions more overnight when Switch was approaching in 2024 like you can see here >>738108401. Switch already passed PS2 fake numbers long ago, and probably DS did too
>>738111932Probably gonna be at around 156m
I wish I had my old PS2 still.
>>738108000It's going to happen sometime next year. It will only need to around 1.7 million or even less depending on how it sells this year.
>>738107594PS2 somehow managed to sell 5 million units in 2024 so shouldn't be too hard for switch to do it
>>738106891Nintendies own 3 Switches on average.
>>738107594Switch sells 2 million units a year.
>>738108000NEVER happening. Shitch sales dropped off a cliff last year.
>>738110890>>738113907One of the funniest shits about sony constantly upping the numbers to cope is you can often end up catching random numbers between 145m and 160m on older PS/retro gaming retrospectives depending on how old the video is.
>>738114552it's gonna happen sooner or later bwo, get used to it
>>738114552>>738114032>>738114661It will have sold 4m this previous year, 2m over the next (2026-2027 March), and then it will drop to 1m or below the next year most likely
>>738106891I can't believe people are still interested in console wars.
>>738114725And then sell another random 5 million out of the blue in 2032 and another 5 million in 2035?
>>738114826Sony probably knew the figure all along. They just decided to sit on it. Wouldn't doubt it if they secretly obfuscated the PS2 numbers near its end of life to make it look to Nintendo as if 155m was the final number, to bait them into thinking they have to make just enough of whatever to beat it. Then Sony bumps it up again to keep the title
I'm scared it won't pass PS2. Then it's all for nothing because no system will ever come close again. Switch 2 is definitely not hitting 150+m
fun fact 1, the ps2 had nearly half it's 145m sales after the ps3 came out, because the ps2 was being sold in third world shitholes for as low as 40-60 usd from back thenfun fact 2, switch lites are 300 bucks5 million switch lites is 1 billion 500 million usdnintendo can literally flash drop the price to 100 bucks, take the billion usd loss, and instantly beat the 160m cope number at the low cost of less than a quarter of what bungie has cost snoy so far
The 160 million PS2 number is completely fraudulent in terms of "sales" anyway. As the claim by Sony is that there were 160 million PS2s manufactured total.The idea that you just simply count every single unit manufactured as sold at retail is just obviously impossible. 5-8~% of any electronic device is faulty and there would be hundreds of thousands of units if not millions of units allocated to just warranty/faulty/rapid/returns alone. So clearly not sold units.And then think of all the demo units, kiosks, units used for marketing, given away as part of competitions or given to staff or whatever too. Add onto that shipments that got lost or stolen or damaged in fires or truck crashes or any other kind of storage mishaps over 14 years.It's just simply not possible for PS2 to be sitting at 160 million sold. In fact 155 million is incredibly suspect if 160 million were produced.
>>738115364>5-8~% of any electronic device is faulty and there would be hundreds of thousands of units if not millions of units allocated to just warranty/faulty/rapid/returns alonefun fact 3, snoy counts refurbs and repairs for the pis5 as new units soldwhat makes you think they don't for the ps2?
>>738115364>>738115521I dont really think its that deep though. The end all be all is that they produced 160.6m of them, and they likely shipped the vast majority of that number if not all to retailers at some point. They made them if they were selling. Doesn't matter if its returns, demos, etc. They sold and shipped that through the supply chain to the retail stores that bought them.
>>738115656PS2 had insane failure rate with the red screen of death. The cheap shoddy disc laser. PS2 is probably only second in terms of failure rate behind the notorious 360. Find me a single person that never experience a red disc screen error back in the day. How many units did Sony hand out as warranty replacement? That's not a sold retail unit. It's got to be in the multiple millions. The fucking failure rate was like 30-40%. If even 5% of people used their warranty period then that's millions of units. Even the 155 million figure is sussy nevermind 160.
>>738115656Produced isn't sold. So you're just admitting it's a made up fake figure and that Switch has already surpassed PS2 lifetime sales. Nintendo aren't telling us produced units.
>>738115521360 must be at 120,000,000 then a instead of 80,000,000
>>738107247Cue tendie coping and schizophrenic mental gymnastics.Consoles have been dying a slow death for over 15 years.
>>738106891Nope PS2 kayfabe number is now 160 million units. Still a bit to go for Switch.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WE NEEDED TO SELL MORE FAULTY UNITS TO BOOST OUR NUMBERS!
>>738116049Doesn’t change anything. 160m were produced due to demand from retailers and thus consumers.>>738116094Produced could be sold or extremely close to it. Remember they said it is 160m sold in as in shipped. Most if not all made it to a retailer at some point.
>>738107247fippy bippy>more sales>better controller >better games>more sovl PS2 mogs it so hard, the shitch had no chance even with it being a shitty tablet for autistic destructive toddlers with a fragile screen and removable battery, + covid boost, + being the cheapest streaming device on Amazon during covid, + every amerishart owning 4 on average
>sony find another 10 million sales down the back of the couch.
So is /v/ finally ready to admit switch is the goycattle console for normalniggers?
>>738107594it needs to do like ~193k per month for the next 2 years. I don’t see how it does that at all
>>738107594What do you mean how it's even possible?Switch 1 has the biggest library in consoles ever, not only that, it's the cheapest console getting new games stillSwitch 2 for all it's worth hasn't show it's full hand while Switch 1 has.
>>738106891Deserved
>All without a price cuts except for the yearly "Black Friday" sales which never really amounted to much
Not only did it deserve it, it's still the best option for a console today. Aside from Air Riders every Switch 2 game I've been interested in is a "switch 2 edition" that I can just play on Switch 1. Switch 1 is also still gets the most indie game releases and ports of old games. Add that key cards aren't physical games and you realize Switch 1 is significantly superior to Switch 2 in both quantity and quality even just looking at future releases. Add a PC to fill the gaps and you have access to 99% of new games that are worth playing. There is almost zero reason to buy either a PS5 or Switch 2.
>>738117312Because of how fast its dropping.
>>738117817How fast is it dropping?
>>738107438Who's to say Nintendo isn't lying too? For all we know they both could've sold under 100 million. In the end they're just numbers that the companies give us, that clearly no one has to verify but everyone has decided to believe in anyway. I wouldn't believe either.
we did it bros
>>738118979What a retarded fucking question. Because Sony as a company has been lying and commiting frauds consistently for decades.
>>738120904But enough about Nintendo.
>>738118427about 500k a week
>>738107594Nintendo also castrated every tendie who gives a shit about this by going full jew and raising the price.
>>738120904but the entire reason playstation came to exist is because nintendo lied to sony
>>738109967>>738116880It's really remarkable how this moron can easily be identified even with the thousands of anonymous posts in this board.
>>738122006If you read about what fuckery led up to that, you might understand why so many people think Sony is pure evilBut of course, many people leave out the first part of the story BECAUSE it's inconvenient like that
>>738107438>retconnedthey stopped reporting numbers in 2012
>>738107247I heard rumors Sony shot a couple million units into the hollow earth. It's realistically closer to 200 mil.
It's funny how mad this makes the Nintendo adults. >SONY LIED IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!Problem is that Sony looks based in this scenario no matter what. Either they still have the number 1 selling game system. Or they are fucking around with Nintendo just to get some meaningless title that serves no benefit to them whatsoever. While still having the best selling console since the Switch is a handheld.
>>738123421Objectively speaking they did lie.Either they lied in the past by not reporting the 160m properly from the start and instead climbing in small increments of 5m since 145m to the 160m line every time the DS and eventually the switch beat that line.Or they lied now by just making shit up about sales from atlantis to cope.Sony looks like a bitch either way, if they lied in the past they look like literal tax evaders, if they lied now they look like cucks not only coping nintendo already beat them twice, but also having to rely on literal japanese stolen valor because their now westoid HQ can't make a console worth shit to ever reach those heights again.
>>738116880Cope and seethe.
>>738123856I think being that fucking petty over something as small as a Wikipedia page is honestly pretty funny. I honestly don't think Sony is capable of being that funny. I also don't think they are willing to do tax evasion over it. Calling it a ''bitch move'' shows how mad you are over it which means Sony succeeded in their alleged goal.
>>738118979>Nintendo's numbers come from official sales reports which they could get in trouble for lying about>Sony's numbers come from disgraced CEOs obviously trying to boost their numbers and legacy>the latter has also been caught lying and fudging numbers for years now'b-b-but Nintendo' the cope, yet again.>>738120994Got any examples?
>>738124082why would anyone be mad when the switch 1 will beat the 160m cope number anyway?reminder the ps3 came out in 2006 and the ps2 kept selling all the way up to 2012, 6 years laterat the bare minimum the switch 1 will keep selling all the way up to 2032, and thats assuming nintendo doesnt keep it around forever as a switch 2 lite lite, six full years for a mere 5 million, less than a million a year, less than 85k worldwide a monthit already did 155m in 8 years and with zero discounts (and a price hike even) when the ps2 needed over a decade for 145m and massive discounts on third world countriesat this point the only ones shitting their pants out of fear are snoys
>>738106891Switch 2 is so bad that people still buy the first one
>>738124490And when the Switch passes that coep number, you know snoys are going to do everything they can to downplay it and question the validity of its numbers.
>>738123421lol
>>738124490You are the one making these elaborate tapestries about fudged numbers and other tendies itt are bringing up CEO lore. You can't really deflect the anger accusation when the evidence is right here.>why would anyone be mad when the switch 1 will beat the 160m cope number anyway?I actually won the lottery and bought like 30 million ps2 units. I don't think Sony reported those number because I was too busy partying with the accountants with the rest of my money. Sorry bro guess your favorite system still has a long way to go :(
>>738124490The next logical step would be a Switch Pocket and a price cut on all games that have sold over 20 million copies. Nintendo isn’t making any more money on MK8D or Smash, so why not?
>>738124673With the last 2 dollars I had sex with your mom btw
>>738124539There's only one Switch 2 model ya dingus
>console based on a chip that had been available and well documented for several years>emulatable on PC(including mass market laptops) within a year of release>emulatable on phones within a couple years after thatThe fact it sold this many units is an indictment of tech illiteracy and not something to be celebrated
>>738124861Nintendo adults buy the logo.
>>738124861Nice splatoon mp lol can you emulate a joycon?
>>738106891yeh, gaming is fucked
>>738124914snoys buy the shapes.
>>738124712>. Nintendo isn’t making any more money on MK8D or Smash, so why not?that's where you're wrong
>>7381250135 million more times in fact
Eric you lost and got raped.
>>738125013The shapes are Playstation's mascot.
>>738125058*10 million moreThey found more on Epstein's island
>>738124945>Nice splatoon mpYuzu could straight up connect to NSO servers for most of the Switch's lifetime, never played Splatoon myself but Smash Ultimate and Mario Kart worked just like playing on original hardware(except with better resolution and framerates). Of course it got annoying to create a new account over and over to use the free trial so I didn't play it that much. Multiplayer is still a thing after the emulator got taken down but it requires extra steps>>738124945>can you emulate a joyconWhy wouldn't that be the case?
>>738125153>The tendie when completely bested (not hard to ) will start spamming one of their many boogymen catchphrases>Not understanding that if there actually was an Eric he would have 100% undeniably won and his victory still echoes through every time a tendie spams one of their usual catchphrases.
>>738125305>needed to respondYou hate being compared to eric, don't you?
>>738124914>>738125013To be fair it's much more understandable to get a PS5/Switch 2 at this point since the PC retail market is beyond fucked, the consoles actually go on sale and will let you play games on the TV or handheld for about half the price you'd pay for equivalent PC hardware in the worst case scenario. Personally I'd still recommend biting the bullet and getting a PC so you're not locked into the DRM environment and having to pay for online
>>738125305Baldie cope
>>738124861Even before the RAMpocalypse it was cheaper to buy an already modchipped switch 1 than it was to buy a PC able to emulate it, especially with more recent games like MP4 that needed a rtx 3070 minimum to get the same performance a switch would get natively, because news flash, the instant you want to play something more than just smash ultimate or mario odyssey, switch emulation gets very fucked.
>>738125461>PS5>price dropsYou're right about PCs though.
>>738125423>>738125465I can feel the seething rage emanating from these posts
>>738107594How is it even possible for the ps2 to sell? The ps3 is out!This is you.
>>738125571Likewise.
>>738123421If it was a meaningless title, Sony wouldn't care about ceding the title to Nintendo, but they do and they made up numbers to stay on top. Not based at all
>>738125605>n-no you...The ultimate defeat. No wonder you people like Sony so much.
>>738125646OK now go post another threat seething about Nintendo success baldo
Another shipment of PS2s just flew over my house
Another 3AM ballot drop off PS2 sales figures
>>738125540I said sales, not price drops. The base model was like $300 last year with every exclusive in the library bundled(aka Astro Bot and GT7), that particular bundle is still below MSRP at my local retailers. I know because I've considered buying it many times but remembering I'd have to pay a subscription for basic features turned me off every time I came close>>738125471>Even before the RAMpocalypse it was cheaper to buy an already modchipped switch 1 than it was to buy a PC able to emulate itDubious claim, maybe during the height of the crypto boom and also going off the premise you wouldn't own a PC at all. Although you know damn well >99% of people weren't buying modchipped Switches
>>738125646You sound upset.
>>738125806BAN MAIL IN CONSOLE SALES
>>738125631So you admit you put some actual value on that number 1 spot. That explains all the seethe on here. I think Sony just does it to fuck with Nintendo in a very petty way. IF they actually purposefully fudge the numbers that is. And that would be really funny if true (which it likely isn't because Sony is incapable of being based)
>>738125631The funny thing is Sony and Nintendo fanboys along with Sony really care about it while Nintendo doesn't really give a shit, which is why it will be especially funny when the Switch passes the PS2's fake numbers.
>>738125720>>738125821>projecting this hard Must be hard getting the last word when you got destroyed and ran out of arguments
>>738125915Only snoys care about sales numbers though, it's thrown out there to placate those cultists
>>738126031Must be hard seething about Nintendo all the time
>>738126078There are posts in this thread seething about Sony ''lying'' though. Care to explain those?
>>738107247>>738107284The true ps2 number is closer to 140 mil. Sony kept "discovering" more sales every time the ds got close and then did it again when the switch got close. The 5 million increase wasn't from 2013-now, they claim it was already at 160 in 2013 but they just didn't know until they suddenly found out
>>738126125>Seething about the number 2 (3 if you just go by true home console sales)lmao imagine
>>738126160Lmao you are so mad it's hilarious. For all I know you made those posts lol
>>738125814>Although you know damn well >99% of people weren't buying modchipped Switchesbuying a non-modchipped one is even cheaper nigga, especially during holiday sales on physical stores
>>738126301I accept your concession
>>738126364Snoy would be proud
>>738126201*including refurb and portal saleslmao the fact that you care about ranking at all shows your seethe, but enjoy your plebstation
>>738126461>More number 3 copetsk tsk
>third party support was such a joke that it has the sales but doesn't have the libraryWhy are third parties so retarded, they can afford to spend 200 million on titles that everyone could see failing the second they were announced like Forspoken or Unknown 9 Awakening, but they can't spare 1/5 of that to make a single decent Switch game.
>>738126997The Switch got tons of cheap support and ports. In cheer numbers, the library is gigantic. It's expensive/AAA support that was lacking.
Switch sold 155 million at $300+ for 9 yearsIf it was $150 it would have sold 190 million. But nitnendo are greedy
>>738107247This
>>738106891False. You lost tendies
snoys seems unusually upset this Sunday mor->https://insider-gaming.com/gamers-may-get-refunds-after-sony-playstation-digital-store-lawsuit/oh.
>>738117481>concord now worth more than $100 because of its infamy Lmao, I woulda bought the whole pallet
ok now what?
>>738107247First post cope post
>>738127415It's just kind of sad, it makes me wonder what third parties were thinking, most third parties put more resources into Xbox 360 games, a platform that sold nearly half the Switch.What's strange is that it's still happening with Switch 2 with the one caveat of Capcom who are putting out their multiplats same day.
>>738129042Isn't this a good thing for snoys?
>>738131657But if you made a game for the 360 you could also make a game for the ps3 and PC. The Nintendo consoles are too weak most of the time to even handle the new games.
>>738131779snoys love the company above all else. Especially over themselves. Not a cult btw
>>738106891Very cool
>>738131657>What's strange is that it's still happening with Switch 2 with the one caveat of Capcom who are putting out their multiplats same dayIt's not that strange, it's just incompetence. Take-Two for example would have zero reason not to have announced a Nintendo version for GTA 6. Ultimately all these companies that aren't on Nintendo day 1 are losing money
>>738131779Most snoys don't even own a PS5 so this doesn't benefit them.
>>738132470And they can't even get a refurbished one because they got a price increase too.
>>738132147There is no way GTA6 will be able to run on a Switch 2 lmao. It can barely run that ff7 remake
>>738106891watch snoys and sony retcon that one 6 gorillion produced photographsonce the switch passes 160 millions lol
>>738132578Cope.
>>738132892>This impossible thing should happen>But it is impossible>cope
>>738133021Then it happens and you'll keep shitposting like always
>>738132578>It can barely run that ff7 remakeBoth Remake and Rebirth run at something alike to PS5 quality on the Switch 2, mainly thanks to the DLSS, which remains impressive considering the system is running at 15W docked and 5 times less the volume sizehttps://youtu.be/zyDx9J32ndgRebirth could use a few patches to iron out a few things but nothing that is impossible like you could implying.
does that number include the oled and mini
>>738127418If it was a home console it wouldn't even sell 50 million units. Switch was the default option for young families for nearly a decade, an unprecedented situation in the console market. Nintendo was lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
>>738133474Of course, why wouldn't it?
>>738133481>Nintendo was luckyHuge cope.When other chased trends, Nintendo kept making huge system sellers.
>>738106891It's not a console.
>>738133736Why not?
>>738109892Just like 155 was the final number (until the DS got close)
5 MORE PS2 SOLD IN UGANDA FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
>>738133789Consoles aren't portable.
>>738133736>>738134016>what is a handheld console like the DS, PSP, Vita, Gameboy, Gamegear, etc.Switch is a hybrid console, so it's both a handheld console and a home console at the user's whims
>>738133346>I actually come here for the insightful discussionsYou must literally have a fucking dent in your head>>738133423The overworld looks fine but I saw footage of the more densely populated areas and it starts to go to the 20 fps regions. How do you expect it to run GTA6 which takes place in a big city?
>>738134323Do you honestly believe the engines are the same? Serious question
>>738134323>>I actually come here for the insightful discussions>You must literally have a fucking dent in your headNo but most forums and social media are just sony fanboys coping that Sony lost the console war. It's fucking hysterical to see how afraid they are of games like GTA/COD etc coming to Nintendo
>>738134491That wasn't really the subject but no. Do you think the engine that runs GTA6 is more capable of running more densely populated areas on the Switch 2? And if so why do you think that is.
>Being so butthurt he has to start sealioning
https://youtu.be/tOrUspz4KSw>>738134323>but I saw footage of the more densely populated areas and it starts to go to the 20 fps regionsThe same amount of framedrops that is present on the PS5 (like the guy in the video said) which is also rendering at a lower internal resolution? And optimization patches have been a thing on other games since the Vita days.I don't really care about GTA but I do find funny people act like this game in particular is some kind of impossible feat.
>>738134569This thread started out as some sad seethe session by Nintendo adults because Sony lied in order to get the top spot in a wikipedia page or something. Not everyone who is anti Nintendo automatically becomes a fan of Sony. That's just a cope excuse.
>>738134706The real cope is thinking PS2 had any chance of outselling DS in the first place. Sony's just been outed as complete liars way too many times, trusting them with numbers is like trusting Satan. Even when they do get caught what happens? Just a minor fine that doesn't even affect all the profits they made from scamming people.
>>738134692The ps5 version runs at 60 whereas the S2 at 30 (most of the time). And this is with Square Enix putting quite a bit of effort in. If it really was possible to get GTA6 to run on S2 we likely also would have gotten RDR2 already.
>>738134854I dunno man I think it's kinda sad to get this upset over it. Same as calling anti-Nintendo people ''snoys''.
>>738134920you didn't understand when I said the same amount of framedrops was also present at the same part on the PS5.>If it really was possible to get GTA6 to run on S2 we likely also would have gotten RDR2 already.That has nothing to do with the hardware capabilities. Plenty of games could have been released on Switch 1 too like Sega's old games (Skies of Arcadia, Sakura Wars, Sonic Adventure, etc.) but Sega is a company with the worst management possible.
>>738135351But PS5 has framedrops from 60 and S2 from 30. So they aren't the same framedrops at all. I believe there were also parts in the S2 version that was made less densely populated>That has nothing to do with the hardware capabilities. Plenty of games could have been released on Switch 1 too like Sega's old games (Skies of Arcadia, Sakura Wars, Sonic Adventure, etc.) but Sega is a company with the worst management possibleBut this is Rockstar and not Sega. RDR2 and especially GTA online would make them a lot of money. If it was possible to get them on the S2. But it's been complete radio silence apart from that RDR1 port.
The switch at this point has sold 156.2 Million units YTD.It's gonna break the record this year
>>738136154Honestly if you really think about it. Ps2 was around during the time gaming was like 10% of what it is now. so really ps2 sold 1.6 billion units.
>>738125915>So you admit you put some actual value on that number 1 spotI never mentioned me. Projection as always
I don't trust Nintendo's numbers. I never see anyone outside with the Switch, like I did the 3DS. No way it's sold double the 3DS.
>>738135104If it's not a big deal Sony wouldn't have felt the need to lie about the numbers
>>738106891Well done Nintendo, well done. HOWEVER, in light of recent events, we need to divvy out some final sales >5 Million sales to PS2
>>738136416Ps2 actually counts as a dvd, which sold billions, so really PS2 is like 15 million, at most.
>>738136713A very shitty DVD player. Piece of shit broke less than a year after I bought mine.
>>738106891Why did Nintendo fans suddenly start caring about sales. I remember during the gamecube and Wii U era they were like "sales don't matter as long as the games are good"
>>738137159Same story as any consolefag. They care about sales when they win and don't when they lose. The same behavior is observable with PSfags who gloated about winning January/February in the US and went silent when they lost March, where Nincels gloated instead.
>>738137159Because now we're winning.
>>738107247STOP THE COUNTTTT
>>738107438Why doesn't Sony just make the PS6 so good and such an obvious choice that it will outsell the Switch. Why do they have to keep artificially bumping up PS2 scores? Is it because they know they can never reach 150mil+ again?
>>738107438>Sony was at 155 million exactly and then when Nintendo stated to catch up, they retconned it and claimed 160WTF, can they do that?!
>>738142372OWARI DA
>>738139193but PS2 is still the best selling console of all time.Sony did on their 2nd attempt what Nitnendo hasn't been able to do in all of theirs
>>738109681Impressive.Sony managed to sell every single PS2 ever made to a consumer.None were ever lost, damaged or stolen during logistics None were used as display unitsNone were used as replacements for faulty units(and the ps2 was a notoriously fragile piece of shit that had a laser that broke constantly)Very impressive indeed. Bordering on completely unrealistic. But surely a bitchmade loser company like ziony wouldn't lie about something so banal and petty. Right?
>>738143537They would. 100%.
>>738142569>but PS2 is still the best selling console of all time It's not, Sony keeps lying and bolstering the numbers whenever Nintendo beats them >Sony did on their 2nd attempt what Nitnendo hasn't been able to do in all of theirs Nintendo have done it twice already with the DS and Switch and Sony + their fans are such sore losers, they have to scramble and create phantom sales out of thin air. Switch going over 160mil just means Sony has nowhere else to go and snoys will eternally seethe that they can no longer cling to fake magic numbers. What a great day that will be.
>>738143537>Bordering on completely unrealistic It's not just unrealistic, it's completely impossible. Sony's 160 claim is a complete lie.
>>738107247FPBP, best console ever. Shitch will clock at 158m, better luck next gimmick shit comfyslop tranny tablet lol.
>>738144009Enjoy coping while you can, because it will eventually be 160m+, guaranteed. Nintendo are never going to discontinue the Switch, not until Switch 2 is also discontinued.
>>738144009You sound threatened...
>>738106891Sonykikes to come out with six gorillion more ps2s sold in 3... 2... 1...
>>738144227>>738144242samefagging on multiple devices won’t make your asspain any less obvious kek
>>738107247>all that seetheIt’s actually hilarious the generational trauma the Ps2 did to bingtroons lmfao.
>>738144327Ironic
>>738144463>uh..here’s a thumbnail of some retarded shit i stalk in an archive??!!this nigger is so butthurt he can’t even save images correctly
>>738144009>>738144327>>738144426>>738144587What cope will you come up with when it does surpass 160 million units?"It wasn't as quickly as the PS2 did"?Some shit about population differences?"It's a handheld, it isn't fair to compare it to a console"?
>>738144857They're already trying that 2nd option lmfao
>>738144587You know what it is
>>738144857>[proceeds to cope while mass replying]post some more thumbnails my assblasted samefagging mulatto friend, that was funnier than hearing your crybaby fanfics
>>738145364>m.jpg>more schizophrenic shit she stalks on an archiveas if you couldn’t make it any more obvious. fucking lol
>>738145463Irony
>>738145643>gets called out for blatantly samefagging>immediately proves it by spamming thumbnails from his phone xhe talks to xerself withi’m sorry you have a sub-70 iq
I wonder if Nintendo will keep producing Switch 1s in Brazil like Sony did with the PS2?Maybe it'll get up to 200 million in the same time it took the PS2 to get 155 million
>>738146178idk, did they do that with the DS
>>738143658>It's not, Sony keeps lying and bolstering the numbers whenever Nintendo beats themNintendos lying too then. See how easy that is. If you think a company as big as Sony would fudge numbers that could literally get them in a massive legal battle with their investors, you're on crack. You have to be an anon on /v/ to be that retarded, genuinely.>Nintendo have done it twice already with the DS and SwitchAll sold less than the PS2.Put it this way. Sony is used to hitting 100 million sales, it's so consistent for them that when the PS3 (which still sold 85 million and outsold every single Nintendo console not named the Wii/Switch) didn't hit 100 million, it was considered a flop. Contrast that to Nintendo who regularly were crapping out shit that couldn't even hit 50 million.N64 was around 30, Gamecube in the 20s, Wii U in the fucking 10s (13 million or something embarrassing.)
>>738146734> If you think a company as big as Sony would fudge numbers Yes I do think Sony are doing that >that could literally get them in a massive legal battle with their investors Not at the moment, because they've gotten away with it no-one caresBut if and when they try to inflate the numbers again, everyone will know they're full of shit and it could cause enough controversy where the general public investigates it en masse, and then yes, they could get into a lot of trouble. Never assume that your favourite corporation is not capable of shady business practices.
>>738146734>company is too big, it cant tell lies! L M F A O nice epic meme laughing gif bro
>>738146509No, they dropped that shit as soon as the 3DS came out
>>738131657Most of the industry that refuses to support the switch is ejust niggersnoys.
>>738146734>If you think a company as big as Sony would fudge numbers that could literally get them in a massive legal battle with their investors,
>>738146178Highly unlikely. For starters, Nintendo's production is limited to China and Vietnam. Sony did have some local assembly plants for the PS2 in places like Mexico and Brazil, but they were small operations and the bulk of the units came from either Japan or China. Regardless, what ultimately dictates a production run is demand and component availability, not whether or not some assembly plant in some third-world shithole still wants to make them. PS2 had several incentives to keep production going for a very long: people were slow to buy the new HDTVs; there was no pressure to adopt blu-rays; the Wii being so underpowered meant the PS2 could keep getting new games for an entire generation past its prime; the PS3 was shit and couldn't play PS2 games, unless you had the overpriced original model.The Switch faces the opposite problem, the components are very outdated and the industry moves forward much faster these days, not to mention the Switch 2 does everything the original did, but better.Nintendo can probably squeeze a few more million units off the original hardware for the next year or two, but it's going to be very hard to justify production after that.
>>738149142That's a lot of cope that ignores the switch 1 is at most, 2 years away from breaking the 160m cope record as well.Even if they sunset production literally last month they still already have enough units on shelves to beat the cope number.
>>738106891The real sales numbers are likely 125-135 million. Nintendo lied about the sales numbers just like they lied about the DS having 154 million units sold when it was actually 130 million.
>>738149527>Nintendo won't produce the Switch for as long as Sony made the PS2>"B-but muh hardware sales record"Do you niggers even bother reading before posting your retardation? Can you even read?
>>738149798What do you base this statement on?
>>738108000That sounds good.Maybe i will join you in the celebration.
>>738107247Not only did it sold more, but in the context of the PS2 era, where there were no media influencers, no digital distribution, no social media larp, no huge influx of normalfags, and the PS2 being just a traditional offline home console, selling over 160 million units and over 1.5 billion physical games is an unparalleled feat that can't be compared to a social media toy like the Nintendo Switch.
It's the highest selling piece of SHIT in history with the most ports of games we already played and the moment all of Nintendo's franchises became complete garbage. Even Wii had a couple good games, Switch has nothing.
>>738106891>is the highest selling game console everthat's the ps2 doeie
>>738150370Also, the Switch is a hybrid console that appeals to both home and portable gamers, inflating the total sales numbers.If the Switch were sold in two separate purchases, Home and Portable, the home console version would likely never surpass 100 million units, because people love Nintendo's handheld more.Therefore, Nintendo's last chance to be responsible for the best traditional home console of all time was with the Wii.
>>738150370> no huge influx of normalfagsthere literally were, the ps3 was already out and the normalnigger invasion was in full swing at the time the ps2 had the second half of it's sales>and the PS2 being just a traditional offline home consoleyeah let's ignore for the first years it was used as a glorified ps1 pro and dvd player because there were no games for it
>>738150753>yeah let's ignore for the first years it was used as a glorified ps1 pro and dvd player because there were no games for itlolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, yeah we will ignore that, because within one year the ps2 already had shit like mgs2, ace combat 4, ssx tricky, dmc, etcwhat makes someone just type such autistic gibberish and expect people to agree with it
>>738150743>the Switch were sold in two separate purchases, Home and Portable, the home console version would likely never surpass 100 million units,The DS already beat the original PS2 final numbers which was what started to get ziony moving on their cope crusade.
When the Switch passes the PS2, the PS fans will start spamming their list of copes and downplays that they have been posting every time a Switch sales update comes by.
>>738106891did the new quarterly report come in?
>>738106891Imagine how rich you’d have to be to buy 10 games as an average. Thats crazy, that’s $400 almost. Who has that kind of money these days when nobody is willing to work anymore.
>>738150753By "normalfags," I'm referring to people who "must consoooom" and to follow social media trends.People who bought the PS2, bought it to play the damn games
>>738151158did the slop machine base the rightmost kid on Moot?
>>738150997The irony is that you've done noting but spam this and 100 other threads with the most autistic, asinine conspiracies about a plastic box. Kek it's pure projection from your faggot ass.
Even if the switch ends up selling more, the next snoy cope is obviously "it's not a console, it's a hybrid"
>>738151359If being hybrid product is not a huge deal, then start adding the PSP sales numbers to even the comparison.
>>738151359Yea that’s true it shouldnt probably be compared to the PlayStation it’s like a completely different thing. And the PlayStation itself is mostly used to watch movies or play final fantasy. The last true console was actually the atari, which had sold thousands of units and is still considered the most sold.
>>738151359Trvke, ps2 uses all custom hardware and is the real last console for this reasonShitch is just a shitty streaming tablet box and was mainly bought by fat women to shit on hulu during covic
Here is the shit the PlayStation fans will say once the Switch passes the PS2:>That is not impressive because there are more gamers now compared to when the PS2 was out.>The switch has to outsell both the wii and DS for this to be impressive or count.>PS is still on top switch actually has to outsell both the PS2 and PSP for it to be best selling.>Switch is not a console so it does not count.and my favorite, which is the crazy person talking point:>the numbers are not real Nintendo made them up.
>>738107527Sure they will, niggerdo makes the numbers the fuck up
It'll be called the PS2nd place in a couple years, though not for long because it may very briefly be the Switch 2nd place before that overtakes the Switch, but it'll probably only be for 3 months at the most.
>>738107247Sold a lot more; the average Sloptch owner is less than half human.
>>738106891It will be until Sony pulls 10 million more PS2 sales out of their ass.
>>738106891>Every game sells 7000 million copies>Every console sells 7000 million copies monthly>These are the numbersThis is how they used to claim the DS was selling like 10M consoles monthly 5 years after release but it only sold 154M somehow, but "people" still believe nintardo numbers lmao
>>738151359It's actually a different category and if it wasn't you would have all touted that DS actually tied the PS2 back in the day but you didn't because you still had a shred of sense and dignity, now theres no games to look forward to, nothing to play, all thats left is to discuss is Sony, somehow you need to get a W even if you have no games, your only hope is to beat a console from 26 years ago. tendies don't even care if Switch 2 has no games they've been conditioned for years to expect the bare minimum.
>>738122006IIRC there was a lot of misinformation on Sony's part in this. Namely, the contract they were supposed to sign was never actually signed, Sony was just announcing the partnership to pressure Nintendo into signing.Plus apparently part of the contract was that Sony would gain full control over all of Nintendo's IPs in return for helping make a disc-based system. Especially in those days, no sane company would have ever signed a deal like that. There was no betrayal like snoys claim, Nintendo just refused to sign into a bad partnership that Sony was trying to peer pressure and shame them into signing into.
>>738152273Sony was not getting Nintendo ip they made that shit deal with Phillips, all Sony had was royalties on the CD format and Nintendo totally did betray them
>>738151359You have multiple Switches in a household. My friend owns one PS5. He, his wife, and his kid have Switches. It's not the same type of product so it's a fair thing to point out.
Imagine being 10+ years old and caring about Soitendo.
>>738152846Imagine impotently seething about them for 10+ years.
>>738152684>You have multiple Switches in a householdSounds like a console.
>>738109180i'm not hating or anything, but what the hell do you do in ExciteBike for 1300 hours???
Ps2 selling that much back then is much more impressive than hitting 150m in current timesSo many markets have opened, entire countries who did not have access to modern video games now have the means and the opportunity to actually purchase them
>>738107284>Wasn't the PS2 at 160 millionThat's how much they made, not sold
>>738152896Kys soitendo cuck. You play games with 25+ years old graphics with mechanics aimed at 6 yo toddlers. You're probably a pedo.
>>738153065>So many markets have opened, entire countries who did not have access to modern video games now have the means and the opportunity to actually purchase themFun fact, the ps2 was the first to be sold in many of those regions and the switch is currently selling in less regions than the ps2 was.
>>738153065Reaching 150 million now is far more impressive now because consoles have to compete with mobile and PC. Also, there are less kids in first world countries and consoles are too expensive for most third-worlders.If 150 million was such an easy goal, the PS4 and PS5 would have cleared that record by now.
>>738144009Gaming peaked in 2000 with the PS2 simple as.
>>738152684It's not nintendo's fault that even in their prime sony were too shit to have a console good enough to make households buy more than one of.
>>738150743People also bought the PS2 because it was a good DVD player during a time when 'being a Sony' actually meant something, it was also around the same price/cheaper than other (worse) manufacturers. What is your point?Switch is shitty console btw, no bias here.
>>738150370>And the PS2 being just a traditional offline home consoleYou snoys always say this and leave out the fact that it was also one of the cheapest DVD players available at launch.
>>738153316>switch>the only mainstream portable gaming device after the vita flop>nintendo being the go-to brand for portable gaming since the 90s>implying that a wagie can't purchase it>*150 million now is far more impressive*Make me laugh...
>>738107247NOOOOOOO
>>738153567You don't need more than one PS2 in a house. because it's not a handheld.
I like how snoys are already shifting to trying to downplay how the switch breaking the 160m cope number is akshually not impressive.Even the most hardcore snoyim already know it's inevitable.
>>738153734Zoomer, stop parroting.PS2 was $300, a DVD player was $100 already in 2001Xbox has a DVD and is more powerful, but still failed. The Gameube has a DVD version, but due to low sales in Japan, it was never released here.Switch has several apps, including Crunchyroll. I can't imagine how many weebfags purchased this console for this feature alone.
>>738154087i like how you keep posting in the third person every time a post makes you seethe kek. half this thread is you melting down and talking to yourself.
>>738154185>PS2 was $300, a DVD player was $100 already in 2001PS2 launched in 2000, not 2001. That's a whole fucking year you're leaving out, you lying disingenuous faggot.>Xbox has a DVD and is more powerful, but still failed.And it came out a year later and required you to buy an accessory.> The Gameube has a DVD version, but due to low sales in Japan, it was never released here.And it was twice the price of the standard Gamecube, which then got a further price cut in Japan less than a year later, making it cheaper to buy both a Gamecube and a PS2 than a Panasonic QDon't call me a zoomer when you're the actual fucking zoomer who doesn't know what he's talking about. I was fucking there, you weren't, and you're the one who's parroting incorrect bullshit.
>>738153734>this copeThe shitch was just a hulu streaming box for fat women during Covid, bud
>>738154460>not addressing anything I actually said while correcting her and pivoting to b-but the switch!I accept your concession.
>>738154505>stop using my dogshit argument against me waah!I accept your concession.
>>738154185>$100Find me a DVD player in late 2000 for that price. Keep in mind, this is during a time when people were upgrading their home video systems, larger TV's became cheaper and video rentals were moving away from VHS, so you didn't have much of a choice.
>>738154185>a DVD player was $100 already in 2001Sure if you bought a cheap chinkinium one. Otherwise the ps2 was a better deal.It's odd how I kids are trying to change the narrative now
>>738106891Impressive. However, I found 10 million PS2 consoles in the dumpster that were unaccounted. So, PS2 stays at the top.
>>738154381>a whole fucking yearPS2 came out here in october 2000, dumb fuck>required you to buy an accessory.>30 fucking dollarsCan you imagine how much someone needs to spend to get a PS2 equivalent to an Xbox?? Memory card, hard drive, network adapter, multi-tap controller... The Xbox was a better deal even with an extra $30>was twice the pricePanasonic Gamecube didn't cost twice as much as a PS2. both about the same price.A quick google search shows that this version quickly dropped in prices, still no japanese person wanted it.
>>738154381How is being the first DVD player a bad thing, the PS1 was known for being a great CD player. I'm sure there was a a few people who bought a PS2 only for DVD functionality and never played a game on it buts probably in the tens of thousands, it was extremely uncommon to buy a PS2 with zero intention of playing games but I guess it was technically possible, there's was probably people who bought SNES for Mario Paint and never played a real game
>>738106891this will get updated in 3 days, adding another 3 months worth of sales
>>738107438switch sales have slowed down a fair bit, especially since Nintendo increased the price of itit's not a given right now that it will cross 160
>>738155308>How is being the first DVD player a bad thingWho said it was? It was a good thing, and it contributed to sales. But claiming it was a "traditional offline home console" is a flat out fucking lie.
>>738155368>switch sales have slowed down a fair bit, especially since Nintendo increased the price of itSnoytranny you are confused, the switch price haven't moved, Sony is the one increasing the PS5 price
Buy harder, nintenbrosGotta beat the snoyss!!
>>738155173nigga you are fucking illiterate.>required you to buy an accessory.>30 fucking dollarsLess than 10% of Xbox owners bought the DVD remote, btw.
>snoys losing their mind>it's not even the 8th yet when the number will be updated
Snoys defeated
>snoy buck?broken!
>>738155368They only increased it in America.
>>738155554>>738155732>>738155887>nintendo's fanbase consists of autistic manchildren bugmen that buy anything with a mario logo>or autistic children break any cheap piece of shit with a lithium battery and portable screenyeah the shitch sold maybe 1,3 million actual consoles lmfao what a flop
>>738109969
>>738155559>>738155559>Less than 10% of Xbox owners bought the DVD remoteyes, because video games are for gaming.
>>738156136This is the anon that keeps typing in all undercase and starts every post with ">snoy" while replying to no one like a pussy lol.
Snoys on suicide watch...
>>738156249>undercase>snoy is a jeetmany such cases
>>738156249Shut up poorfag Snoy.
>stupid butt hurt Nintendies and Snoys are fighting against each other again!I'm so glad that I'm a PChad!
>>738156460>PCGo pirate your shit, poorfag.
Let's admit it. Sony probably sould around 200 million but they're so humble that they won't say it, unless nintendildo keeps pretendo
>>738107247always lol
>>738156045You wouldn't believe how disposable Nintendo Switch consoles are, especially in the hands of children.
>>738157054not to mention the shitty repurposed wii dildo "joycons" that all come with stick drift and make you buy an actual controller if you want a dpad the shitch might be the biggest scam in vidya
>>738157157Biggest scam i bought and will keep enjoying forever.Seethe, cope and sneed, balding faggot
>>738157157Meanwhile my og ps2 controller still works just fine after 20 years lol>>738157419kys
>>738157419>scam i boughtself own
>>738157580Balding>>738157631Faggot
>>738157580>>738157631ooo you so mad
>>738107247>Incoming 5 more million PS2 out of the ass brought by Sony despite ending manufacturing 13 years agoYou know what they say; there's not a second without a third time.
>>738113146>he doesn't have 2 PS2 by 2025+1
Tendies won
>>738158224lol maybe the shitch could have outsold the ps2 if this guy didn't eat em all while looking for estrogen...
>>738158224>>738156136>>738155887>>738155732>Snoy is so upset that the Switch is going to beat PS2 sales, he's resorted to posting photos of nerds that are unrepresentative of the actual wider Nintendo audience (happy families, normal people with lots of friends etc.)
I can’t go another entire month without a Direct, bros… 2026 has sucked balls for Nintendo. They posted Yoshi gameplay on Twitter and it’s Yoshi bouncing on enemies to the melody of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star… I’m not playing that shit.
>>738152684Holy cope lmfao
>>738157054My niece in on her 4th Switch.
>>738107247FPBP
>>738106891PS2 sold more + Covid boost + not a real console + seethe + you lost
>>738153065Then why has Sony has never even gotten close to the PS2's sales again?
More like snnoying. Am I right?
It's so easy to tell which posts are OP bumping his shit thread.
>>738162634Which ones?
>>738106891Seems like the Switch 2 is on track to reach the same heights.
