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This is the most fun I've ever had in a video game, the deepest I've been immersed in a game world, the most intense emotional response and joy I've felt from moment to moment gameplay. Pure bliss, game design excellence, constantly in awe of what the devs cleverly thought of and masterfully achieved. That some people here dismiss it as a reddit walking sim and try to taint such a pure experience with cynicism is crazy to me. Please just go play it blind if you haven't yet.
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Landing on the station is the coolest thing I've done in a game
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it's an amazing game, a fusion of high art and engineering
it's fun to find blind playthroughs on jewtube
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>>738108732
I agree, played it earlier this month and it was really incredible. Did you play the DLC?
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>>738108732
I had only played that free alpha that came out way before it was a full commercial release. I thought it was fascinating then and I bet I'd enjoy it still now today, even having the whole thing spoiled. My favorite part of it's development is knowing that asian guy from that tv show Heroes was a producer.
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>>738108732
This only good space game
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Only low T men play this shit
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>>738108732
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>>738108732
I've played it and it's a boring slog, also one of the later puzzles on the ash planet is impossible to figure out without a guide or getting lucky. shit game.
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>>738109101
>mfw imagining anon raging his guts out as he gets sucked up into the sky by the sand pillar while trying to activate the portal to get inside the planet
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>>738108732
this game needs to be more inclusive to low iq gamres
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>>738109232
This was actually legitimately dumb though
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>>738109485
Get good
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>>738109592
>game does everything it can to push the player away from the solution
The devs need to get good.
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>>738109485
>white person: umm I figured out this is my goal but there's an obvious obstacle in my way, I'm clearly supposed to find a way around it, whatever could I do? umm perhaps if I were to use one of my useful gadgets to see what would happen first, indeed then I'd realize I could pull off entry with adequate timing, let me observe the environment oh that's right I notice there is in fact safe space for me to pull this maneuver, what astute and fun puzzle solving fitting of the endgame that was

>brown person: aww shiet man tf im supposed to do that some bullshit where the guide at
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>>738109654
>game does everything it can to push the player away from the solution
>an upward pull that you circumvent using the scout to open portal early
every game has its shitters I guess
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>>738109691
Its the other way around, actually though
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>>738109691
I'll admit I got filtered by overthinking it. I guess it's a good puzzle for midwits who don't have that problem.
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>>738109781
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>>738109745
>using the scout to open portal early
How exactly? You use the scout to see when the portal is open, but how would it make the portal open early?
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>>738108732
I think about this game every day since 2020. It gave me faith back in videogames and ruined other videogames I considered good.
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>reddit wilds

dog shit game
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>>738109880
by shooting it at the platform
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Gay game for homos
glad you liked it op
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>>738109973
We don't do that here. No irony poisoning or low IQ allowed.
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>>738109908
>ruined other videogames I considered good
This is why Outer Wilds has a reputation for being a game for massive faggots
It's a good game, but why would it make other games seem worse?
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>>738109989
That doesn't open the portal early but I guess I see what you're saying
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>>738110034
by being so good it makes you realize many other games are slop for retards like (You)
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>>738108732
Congratulations on your transition.
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>>738110081
https://youtu.be/8saaU2pZIX8?si=nSmJbjC-ecvd73B8&t=149
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>>738110103
Okay. Which games that you considered good did you suddenly think weren't good after playing it?
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>>738110150
Whatever your favorite gacha is, faggot
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>>738109101
>without a guide or getting lucky
I figured it out reading one of the nomai texts, I think in the black hole forge, that suggests the portal opens moments before the planets are perfectly aligned. Crazy, I know.
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Sound design and music are god-tier as well
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>>738110175
NtA but that not a real response.
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>>738110214
>NTA
yeah not anymore, faggot
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>>738110231
How about you answer the question? How did the game make you see other games worse?

For example, watching Perfect Blue made me strongly dislike Black Swan, for obvious reasons.
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>>738108936
don't like the onions art style
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>>738110141
I stand corrected. It does start the teleportation process early so you can teleport a bit faster.
But you don't need to do this to use the portal, as you implied earlier.
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>>738110273
>>738110175
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>>738110175
You originally thought those were good? You must be a retard then. I'm sorry you never got exposed to a reasonably good game before Outer Wilds.
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>>738110291
It's what I did, if you're a thinking person you will come up with a solution. Not you, obviously, you had to look it up.
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>>738110316
Which gacha games have you played?
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>>738110330
Doesn't matter if I did, Outer Wilds is better, definitely better than anything a retard like (You) plays, faggot
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>>738110360
NTA but most people fail that puzzle because the timing is fucked. Most people assume that there is some extra element that they might discover later.
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the kind of game that gives you hope for the medium then you get depressed when you remember it's an industry exception and not the rule
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>>738110370
>retard thinks I was calling out samefag
OP is right, you need to be literally subhuman to dislike this game
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>>738110389
You sound like a paid chill or developer with a stuck up your ass.
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>>738110396
>lots of people got filtered by the walking sim reddit game for faggots
kek
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>>738110418
>backtracking this early
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>>738110428
Imagine me as both while you cry yourself to sleep about it, faggot
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>>738110452
Outer Wilds doesn't have an achievement for finishing the game. The devs knew that 90% of players don't even finish the game.
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>>738110478
>literal gacha tranny
Yeah I know you were even before this post
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>>738110486
>pic
Cut it off with the antisemitism.
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>>738110360
Like I said, the game actively tries to push you away from the solution. It does everything it can to make it seem like the portal doesn't work at all, even telling you it's open for a bit longer than the planetary alignment, so you think it's supposed to still be open after the sand passes. After being pulled off it a bunch of times, it's not intuitive to think that you'll magically be able to reach it without being sucked away.
The only concession I'll make is that I should have thought to test it with the scout. Blind spot I guess.
The jellyfish are stupid too. It's, again, unintuitive to go through the STINGERS.
Other than those, every puzzle is great.
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>>738110034
It made me realize most games are just skinner boxes with progression systems. Outer Wilds uses actual understanding as progression. And so many other things I'm up to discuss.
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>>738110512
>the devs knew most gamers are turbo retarded
based
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>>738108732
Have fun while it last, you'll never find a game producing that kind of high EVER again and thus you'll be perpetually chasing the dragon's tail after completing it. Fuck you.
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>>738110523
Do you have anything to say?
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>>738110557
Cope
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>>738108732
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>>738110568
The puzzles aren't complicated, some are just poorly designed.
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>>738110194
that doesn't actually tell you to stand in the closet.
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>>738110389
>I thought gacha games were good
>I had to play Outer Wilds to realize they're not good
Your petulant, bad faith responses are only making you sound like a massive moron, lmao
Surely you can point to an actual game that you thought was good and Outer Wilds ruined for you? Surely you can demonstrate you're not just talking out of your ass to give the game more credit than it deserves?
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>>738110589
Dilate
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>>738110564
Specific examples?
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>>738108732
Encountering The Stranger for the first time was fucking scary
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>>738110636
>that doesn't actually hold your hand and tell you the exact solution
Crazy, I know.
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>>738110418
NTA but I never said anything about disliking it. I thought it was great. It's the retarded self-congratulatory fandom it has that I dislike
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>>738110639
>NOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE MY EPIC /vee/ SHITPOSTER PERSONALITY SERIOUSLY AND ENGAGE MY RETARDED ARGUMENT I'M IMAGINING BETWEEN US
no thanks, retarded faggot
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>>738110647
I accept your concession.
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>>738110626
If you're stupid as fuck, maybe
You'd struggle with Zelda puzzles even
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>>738110639
It's a paid shill or discord raider.
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>>738110703
>>738109589
run along now, your thread is slipping down the board
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>>738110571
I guess im lucky because by all rights the game should have been perfect for me, but I just didn't find myself enjoying it at all. Obra Dinn though was fantastic.
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>>738108732
I wish I was a low IQ redditor like you who could be so easily amused and amazed
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>>738110723
Old Zelda or new Zelda?
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>>738110735
It's very obviously a bored shitposter.
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>>738110690
>thinking about the fandom at all
(You) problem
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>>738110753
Never played Nikke.
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>>738110689
then why mention it?
Knowing it's on the dustball isn't the part of the puzzle that's difficult.
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>>738110775
no he's right, I'm paid and from discord and I'm here to invade the /v/irgin safespace and ruin everyone's "fun"
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>>738110564
I can see why it would make you disappointed with the prevalence of cheap dopamine-mining progression systems. It's true that a lot of games are kind of shitty. It does kind of sound like Outer Wilds was your first good game, but there's nothing wrong with that I guess
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>>738110691
NTA but you did make the point that Outer Wilds made you see other games as lesser, yet you cannot mention a single game.
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>>738109232
>>738110194
FYI, the devs changed the Ash twin puzzle to be easier to figure out in one of the updates if you solved it after that update... you didn't beat the game
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>>738110769
Both
>>738110812
>difficult
embarrassing
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>>738110775
>It's very obviously a bored shitposter
I forget that sh*rty faggots are compelled to enter random threads and take sides just to annoy people.
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>>738110691
If you don't want to engage in discussion that's fine I guess, but I repeat, you're only making yourself sound like a moron.
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>>738110660
Dark Souls / Elden Ring
Diablo II
World of Warcraft
Skyrim / Fallout
Minecraft / Terraria
Monster Hunter
Super Metroid / Symphony of the Night

I don't man, so many games that use progression systems. It just comes to chasing better gear and stats. That doesn't mean they are bad automatically, it's just that Outer Wilds in particular made me realize games can be done different and they can be better.
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>>738110843
Wasn't even me, I just saw a retard and decided to take it for a walk
>NTA
how many times you faggots gonna bark this? you're already at 8
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>>738110862
Old Zelda puzzles are nothing like nu Zelda puzzles.
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>>738110903
>I, the oh so educated /v/irgin retard, think you're a moron!
Don't care
>discussion
lmao delusional faggot
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>>738110794
>>thinking about the fandom at all
>(You) problem
It makes it annoying to discuss.
I don't judge the game itself for it. I think it's slightly overrated but pretty damn good all the same.
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>>738110906
>asked an AI to list random popular games
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>>738110934
retard
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>>738110909
>Wasn't even me
Normally I'd give you the benefit of the doubt, but you've sperged out over "NTA" from other people multiple times already, so you don't deserve it.
Back up the claim you made.
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>>738110909
NTA, but actually I am the same anon. You are gay.
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>>738110997
>I...I don't believe you
Don't care, keep crying about it
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>>738110957
>don't care
>replies
get a load of this midwit
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>>738110862
>I knew implicitly to stand in a closet because of a text that didn't mention it, on a planet I hadn't been to, in a room I hadn't entered before
So what are this weeks winning lottery numbers?
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>>738111007
Cope+dilate
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>>738110957
>wanting to discuss things is delusional
I'm so glad you came to this discussion thread about the game to share this nugget of wisdom
>oh so educated
Lol, I don't put on pretensions like that. You're describing the average Outer Wilds fan.
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>>738111042
>retard can't differentiate between caring about getting (You)s from the lowest common denominator of human life vs caring about the retarded ""argument""
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>>738110979
>grok, write a list of obscure games with progression systems and don't make it seem like an AI wrote it
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>>738111020
>still can't back up his claim
Tragic. Guess it's confirmed that you were talking out of your ass then.
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>>738111046
>I'm a filtered retard
I get it already
>>738111073
>Lol, I don't put on pretensions like that
LMAO delusional little faggot
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>>738108732
Unironically it's the kind of game that the medium of video games exists for. It manages to do the gameplay loop of "observe, learn, execute" so well that there really isn't any contest when compared to games that try to do a similar loop. The fact that many of the "story beats" can be done in any order also lends itself incredibly well to it's exploration and discovery. It is a perfectly crafted open world experience. It's horrors are natural and everything that seems supernatural ends up being explained. It also offers one of the best bittersweet endings I've ever seen, and especially so if you take the time to talk to all the character and learn all the lore. The soundtrack is also superb.

>>738108936
Anon, there is nothing manlier than braving the unknown, to overcome natural obstacles, to learn about and master your environment, and ultimately sacrifice yourself for the continuation of those who come next. If you didn't experience any of that when playing this game, I'm afraid it's you who is low T
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>>738111085
do you honestly think i'm gonna read your blatant retardation? stop larping.
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>>738111095
Your mistake was replying seriously at all to these /v/irgin subhumans
>>738111108
Still don't care, retard
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>>738110601
>the average enlightened Outer Wilds fan
I'm starting to think this game is so zealously defended because it convinced retards that they were intelligent
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>>738111124
Filtered nothing, it's a bad puzzle. I still beat the game without a guide.
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>>738108732
It's peak
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>>738111142
>can't read
Typical retard on vee, many such cases, no wonder you got filtered
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>>738111124
I don't have to assert myself as smart to assert that you're a moron
You seem to have trouble understanding that, but that is because you are, again, a moron
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Void Stranger did it better
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>>738108732
i love this game so much man i wish i could experience it again
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>>738108732
I played for two hours, landed on some planet, explored the ruins and was then suddenly killed by some energy field that came from fuck who knows where. I then turned off the game and haven't played it since.

That all said, when does it get good?
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>>738111158
The only retard that is convinced it is intelligent here is (You), retard
>>738111176
>it's bad because...because I shit my pants over it ok??
rofl
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>>738110906
KEK almost all of these are utter slop play more games holy shit. Fucking casual shitter lmao
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>>738110273
Not him but other games just seem blander afterwards, specifically the way the fail to blend narrative with exploration, or puzzles with environments. In most games you get these disconnected elements duct taped together, whereas the key to OW genius is how cohesive everything is. Even something like the music is tied to the gameplay, that's why it ends up emotionally resonating more profoundly, because you're taking an active part in all of it, having playful interactions with all its design elements.

The other main thing for me is the absence of bullshit and complete originality and disregard for conforming to industry trends. Most games I play, whether AAA or indie, recent or retro, console or PC, there's always some bullshit that annoys me because I become aware of the dev design process of following a trend without questioning it or I question why some stupid element is there in the first place, or how so many things get compromised and dumbed down to be commercially viable, or an innovation doesn't fulfill its potential. You play OW and it feels entirely novel and unique and uncompromised. It's not derivative of the games that inspired it like Myst or Zelda, it's taking what's good about them and transcending them while leaving behind all the parts that wouldn't benefit the overall experience. It does so with absolute confidence in itself. As a first game from a solo dev initially, it is mind-blowing how good it is. This is the kind of end result people like Kojima acclaimed as bold artists should be accomplishing after decades of experience and big budgets but instead they just make generic industry products with a few gimmicks slapped on.

It's such an audacious, creative, clever, carefully thought of title. In most cases we're lucky when one game does one or two things right. OW innovates on so many levels yet also insanely polished, such an incredibly rare precious thing when any medium work gets this level of fully realized.
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>>738108732
>That some people here dismiss it as a reddit walking sim and try to taint such a pure experience with cynicism is crazy
As per usual with /v/, you have to play such games early on before the shitposters have time to latch onto them to get decent discussion
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>>738111190
>immediately replying
lmao you're a desperate faggot. try and make it less obvious next time that you're a larping retard.
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>>738111197
>I SMART ME SMART I ARGUE ON VEE LIKE SMART PEOPLE
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>>738111239
>play more games
hey recommend me some anon
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>>738111226
Exactly the point in which you died.
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>>738111226
this post is worded in a way to make specifically me mad
but I won't
i gotta snooze
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>>738111250
based
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>>738111275
>stop replying to me
>STOP IT!!!
poor seething retarded fag
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>>738110557
>The jellyfish are stupid too. It's, again, unintuitive to go through the STINGERS
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO????????? THAT'S FUCKING RETARDED
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>>738108805
For me it was getting detected by the angler fish but using the emergency ejection switch to launch myself to safety
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>>738111312
>still replying
holy humiliation ritual. stop being such a cornball you bot.
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>all of the ragebait replies in this thread
this board is never going to recover is it? will people on this board ever be sincere again? millennials have poisoned this place with their sarcasm
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>>738109101
If you’re talking about the ATP warp then the developer officially apologized but to be honest it HAD to be that obtuse to the point where you leave it for last because finding it early spoils the entire damn game. I’d rather have to cheat one puzzle at the end then be “rewarded” for my puzzle solving by having the entire narrative spoiled before I can even start to theorize what’s going on.
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>>738111250
/thread
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>>738111350
>STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
>STOP REPLYING!!!!!!
>PLEASE!!!!!
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>>738111236
>I beat a game that required me to think a little bit for the first time in my life, so now I'm convinced I'm SO SMART and this is a game for SMART PEOPLE LIKE ME
>even though it directly tells you the answer for 99% of it
>everyone with the slightest criticism of this game I base my entire ego on must be without a brain or a soul because this game is PERFECT and SO AM I
Enjoy the game, hate the fanbase
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>>738111126
I'm willing to praise the game a lot. But the ending is complete shit and a major example of how pretensious the devs are, second only to the aliens using tranny pronouns and tied to the whole reddit soience vibe the game has going.
They needed an editor on the team mitigating the mental illness, telling them to add an on-screen clock and to disable the time loop during the dlc. THEN it could be a masterpiece, but its still a nice walking simulator.
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>>738110906
>dark souls/elden ring
What? Some of the best stuff is at the start of each game. People literally talk about black knight weapons being broken in the first game. And leveling hardly matters, you’ll still get wrecked by hollows in the starting areas even at level 150 in Demon’s-DS2. Most people have their characters fully built by halfway into each game.
>WOW
Who thinks WOW is good?
>skyrim
A game that has enemies level up with you so it doesn’t actually matter?
>minecraft
There is no endgame, the progression system is the game. It’d be like saying the mystery in outer wilds holds the game back, without the mystery of what occurred there’d be no reason to do anything.
Outer Wilds is fun romp, I just recently played it in April, but that’s it, it’s a fun romp. I see no reason to play it again, didn’t even feel the need to buy the DLC because it’s over, the mystery is revealed and answered, anything else just cheapens it. How it made any good game less good is beyond me, it lacks one of the pivotal things an amazing game has, replay value. So yes, the gameplay mechanic of learning the past 20 hours of exploring is needless because it can be solved in 15 minutes is nice, but only in small doses. If every game lacked any progression and you were static the whole time it’d get boring fast.
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>>738111409
Cope eternally, retard
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>>738111250
> other games just seem blander afterwards, specifically the way the fail to blend narrative with exploration, or puzzles with environments
I think you should play more games
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>>738111407
>reaction pic
>still seething
imagine being this mindbroken. holy shit. you want some reddit gold too, you worthless bot?
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No one ever posts gameplay to this"best game ever made"
Starting to think you aren't actually gamers and are mainstream casuals
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>>738111250
>reddit spacing
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>>738111202
I wish I could get into it but tiles sokoban is such a mind-numbing restrictive format
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>>738111278
I'm not that smart, just smarter than you. But so is everyone else.
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>>738111421
>these are the retards that want you to argue seriously with them and call it "discussion"
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>>738111445
>STOP POSTING
>STOP REACTING
>STOP IT!!!!!
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>>738111435
Sincerely, raise the bar for yourself instead of getting complacent and arrogant after clearing a minor hurdle
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This thread has me in tears
I'm one of the players that played for 20 minutes, got into the ship and alt f4'd perma it
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>>738111421
Surely this is bait, but I'm curious... Why exactly do you find the ending to be complete shit?
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>>738111461
Restrictive is good for puzzle design. Give it a fair shot if you ever feel like it, it's one of my all time favorites along Outer Wilds.
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>>738111468
>turbo retard measures its intellect based on /v/ interactions where it gets raped so hard it enters a delusional state
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>thread shilling a reddit game
>Just a bunch of redditers arguing
Everytime...
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>>738111515
Continue to cope for the rest of your short life, retard
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>>738111523
>I'm an attention span fried cod baby that can't sit alone with my thoughts for more than 2 seconds
I'd be crying too if I was that retarded.
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>>738111441
Such as? I play at least 50 games per year, I chased that high and still haven't found anything close to it, will gladly take recs.

>>738111452
Reddit website
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>>738111534
>tranny vegas
I am no longer arguing with you
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>>738111513
>still has to reply due to lack of attention
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>>738111551
I really don't know why you're so upset, but keep seething I guess
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>>738111598
What have you thought about today, Anon?
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>>738111629
>filtered by a stock reaction image
I suppose there was no discussion to even be had
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>>738111424
Well it's simply my opinion. I may be that I0m tired of progression systems and I don't care about replaying games that rely on them.

Also
>the mystery is revealed and answered
don't you wanna know how the Nomai got a short signal from the eye then never again? Play the DLC everyone, I implore you.
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>>738111634
>NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO STOP REPLYING TO ME OR I WILL KILL MYSELF
>THIS IS ALL I HAVE!!
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>>738110557
I basically agree with everything, though is the jellyfish weren't like that I would have gotten to the core very easily since the tornados were one of the first clues I found and after that there isn't much to interact with on the bottom layer.
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>>738111584
I'm sorry you would rather feel smart than be smart. You will wallow in mediocrity, but at least you'll maintain a strong sense of arrogance as you do, I guess
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>>738111635
Ok retard, run along to your gacha general now and post doros or nikkes or whatever
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>>738111681
>devolved into spamming like a worthless midwit
>making up greentext like a schizo
grim
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>>738111636
I've been working on an game review for my youtube channel along with planning the layout for my main base in Vintage Story. I also edited a bunch of pictures I took for my church, today. Also the roman empire.
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>>738111734
>YOU'RE SPAMMING YOU'RE SPAMMING!!!
>BUZZWORD BUZZWORD!
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>>738111784
Got it, fake christian
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>>738111673
No, I don’t care. It doesn’t matter, what mattered was who were they, what were they doing, and what/where is the eye. All of that is answered slightly before you get the ending, and then you actually get a nice ending to tie it all up and “solve” the universe dying. The game even answered it slightly with that one Nomai who is still alive, she stopped caring if the eye was evil or good, conscience or not, because it didn’t matter.
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>>738111627
>recs
I'm going to undermine my own argument by not making any, but that's because I'm uniquely awful at recommending games due a combination of ADHD disorganized memory and having played so many games it's hard to be specific
I'll make a list for next time anon, because there legitimately are a lot of games that have what you're after. There are also a ton of shitty ones though, so you'd be forgiven for thinking Outer Wilds is the only decent one.
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>>738111812
That's between me and God. I'll pray for you though, anon.
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>>738108732
>>738108863
>>738108928
We have so many trolls thread against this game, this kind of OP will inevitably be called false advertising in the next thread.

It is a fun and creative game tho.
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>>738111534
>long and convoluted
>unsatisfying everyone dies anyway shit
>bumfuck all confusing asset recycle galery
>oh but I create a new heckin universerino by observing a ball of light, its like I'm freakin god #atheist
Jeez anon, I wonder. Still, its not like there was ever a proper way to depict "solving the universe" since the concet itself was all religious schizophrenia masquerading as intellectualism. But that's what I mean when I say the devs were smelling their own farts.
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>>738111835
>No, I don’t care. It doesn’t matter.
based retard
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Does Gen Z really?
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>>738111751
>trying so hard to fit in
Maybe you really are from reddit
I guess anonymity is a new thrill for you, but you don't have to try so hard
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>>738111451
It's a space exploration game. There is no combat but you pilot a spaceship and explore stuff from your local solar system. The value of the game is about its lore and puzzles. It's not a bad game to be fair, but its called reddit in here because its overrated as fuck and that's why people like to use it for shitposting.
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>>738111884
why did you expect something anti-fun, obnoxious and pretentious?
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>>738111969
because /v/irgins ITT told him to, but you should never, ever take /v/irgins seriously
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>>738111964
Maybe you'll have something worth saying after you've finished making babby's first anonymous edgeposts
See you in a future thread I guess
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I forced myself to finish this game blindly because everyone and their dog said it was a masterpiece you needed to experience blind.

The experience was mediocre with some cool moments but the ending was so fucking dogshit that it left a sour taste in my mouth.

That said I'm a science fiction autist that reads sci-fi books regularly so I expected something good not something so generic and forgettable after all the praise.

It's like how muv-luv is a VN that is overhyped by weebs because they don't know enough sci-fi to see how crap it is.

Outer wilds is sci-fi that is overhyped by gamers because they are inexperienced with sci-fi.

That said if you liked the games I recommend the (entry level) science fiction novel "children of time". If you liked the existential dread the ending gave you and you want something a bit more anxious and heavier I recommend the three body problem trilogy.
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>>738108732
I played it last month. I personally think its overrated considering I see people say its in their top 5 games and that it made them cry or some shit. Game was really good, its a 8/10.

Also, agree with >>738109101
That puzzle the only thing I had to look up and it honestly soured the ending of the game for me. However I was trying bullshit for like 2 hours and never thought "hide and run into it" was the answer.
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>>738109101
The ash twins took me a minute too but no puzzle in this game is close to "impossible to figure out". They're all pretty straightforward. The more "challenging" ones (we're talking taking an hour to figure out, maybe) just feel that much more rewarding when you do.

There's no Blue Prince-level autism needed to beat this game blind.
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>>738111893
I mean, does it matter about some other alien species blocking the signal? No, because the game makes us care about the Nomai, you’re not even really supposed to care about your own species, why would a third alien species that wasn’t hinted at interest me? It doesn’t.
It’s like caring about the two other tribes of Nomai that are out in the universe that lost contact with our Nomai, I don’t want to know what they’re up to, it’s mysterious, and fun to imagine they did other stuff, maybe even found a way to escape the death of the universe in a pocket dimension. But the player contacting them would ruin that. The DLC added nothing that the base game didn’t square away, it was unnecessary(and expensive). I had my answers, had my fun, and didn’t really care to play it anymore, it’s not that good of a game and the DLC didn’t add to mysteries the base game established, it just made stuff up.
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>>738112071
Many games unfortunately do not hold up to the scrutiny of film/literature. Even with your disappointment, perhaps you could at least recognize that the immersive-ness of the gaming media does give the plot an added dimension. Surely you've read a sci-fi novel and wished you could be there controlling the space ship?
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>>738112086
>2 hours
holy fuck
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>>738110396
>NTA but most people fail that puzzle because the timing is fucked. Most people assume that there is some extra element that they might discover later.
And there IS some extra element to discovers later.

In the black hole forge you find a text telling you that you can teleport even if you run into it AFTER with a 5° delay
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>>738108732
I played it in VR. Still one of the best experiences I've had with my headset. It alone made it worth every penny.
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>>738112160
based poorfag retard
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finally got it and gonna try it out. still have no real sense of what it plays like but people have brought it up so many times that i wanna form my own opinion of it now. my only superficial grasp is that it's a form of space exploration game like nms, but that's probably not true.
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>>738112265
if you're serious just play it and leave this thread immediately
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>>738112186
>spoiler
This doesn't actually help you though, the portal is closed by the time the sand funnel disappears
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>>738112071
I don't think people love it because of the scifi plot aspect, the space aspect being overtly cartoonish, maybe you went in with wrong expectations as a scifi fan?

>>738112086
what's your top 5?
sad you had to look it up, a lot of people seem to struggle with that puzzle
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>>738112037
I honestly dont think the game would have been worse by having unlockable tools and stuff. I got to the quantum moon and past the fish by just trial and error since you have very limited options to interact with them. Would have gotten to the core of great deep too if I didn't find underwater ocean places so unsettling and experimented a bit more.
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>>738112293
alright, will do
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>>738111886
>long and convoluted
It only takes a couple minutes to finish it after entering the eye, if even that. That's not really that long. Also they set up just about everything that happens there with the quantum stuff. Did you just not understand what was happening and got stuck for 10 minutes or something?
>unsatisfying everyone dies anyway shit
It was pretty obvious that that was going to be the case the moment the sun explodes and then when talking to many of the characters about the heat death of the universe. What were you expecting to happen?
>bumfuck all confusing asset recycle galery
Again, this is all pretty much explained during everything involved in the quantum moon stuff.
>oh but I create a new heckin universerino by observing a ball of light, its like I'm freakin god #atheist
Listen... I'm not going to sit here and tell you the game doesn't have some woke leanings, but if this is what you got out of the ending... anon... it might be time to take a break from the internet, even for just a day. You seem incredibly jaded about something that's honestly pretty benign
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>>738112210
Being poor allows me to not get caught up in dumb trends, I missed the whole overwatch, destiny, fortnight, PUBG, and all that crap era because it all looked like crap and not worth a dime or a second of my time. Even missed out on a lot of souls like crap from the past couple years. Just wish I didn’t play Nier, the first one sucked, should have been more stingy.
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>>738111250
You don't understand.
It has to look like pic or any game is utter shit.
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>>738111451
It's pretty understood among fans that the less you know about the game as a fresh player, the better. Someone who loved the game isn't going to spoil shit, on the off chance you play it and they've robbed you of some of the experience.

This dissipates over time, which is why you even think your opinion is worth the effort to type it out, and why these threads aren't just walls of spoiler text any more. But if you're the type to like this game, you will enjoy it far more if you know literally nothing about it going in.

Granted I played it on gamepass, and never would have bought it otherwise (the reveal looked pretentious as fuck to me). So I understand it's a catch-22.
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>>738112186
I was aware of that but was still going into the funnel early and just trying to use the jets and bumping into the roof to try and stay in place long enough for the black hole to pull me in
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>>738112265
not like nms at all, it's a detective game with a space setting, or imagine zelda without combat but each planet is a puzzle dungeon, there's no randomly generated crap, everything is hand crafted with a purpose
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>>738112369
Very interesting cope, did you know rich people can display self-control?
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>>738108732
I would have liked this a lot better if people didnt act like it was the second coming of christ and was some magnificent enigma that you need to go into 100% blind to reach gaming nirvana
>DUDE ITS LITERALLY THE BEST GAME EVER MADE AND IS A FUCKING WORK OF ART
>its a timed puzzle game with shit controls
I didnt even really have fun it was more like "oh i get it, neat i guess" because the controls were so aggravating
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>>738111886
>religious
it's literally the opposite
it makes religiouscucks mad because they all think they're going to some utopia in the sky once they die
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>>738111451
It's an old game now, we had all those gameplay videos years ago and you have a billion YT video if you cared.
Now the only one still discussing it are newbies or contrarian child shitting on anything that get good review.
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>>738112394
If Outer Wilds is so perfect, why do you need to contrast it with bottom of the barrel garbage to make it look good?
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>>738112446
Is that why stupid trends like extraction shooters kept getting pushed? Because of self control? Or was it because everyone buys crappy games, plays it for a couple weeks and then drops it? Sounds like rich people have the same impulse control of poor people, which is next to none and why all forms of media have sucked for almost 20 years.
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>>738112398
Also, it's a puzzle game. I've heard it described as 3D Myst, which isn't totally accurate but not too far off if you're looking for a game to compare it to. You don't exactly see a lot of epic gameplay clips of Myst, but it was still a great game despite being a deluxe powerpoint.
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>>738112573
>poorfag having a depression spiral over extraction shooters
not interested tbqh
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>>738112479
I completely agree with you about it being overhyped, but I'm also going to hit you with a "skill issue" over your difficulty with the controls
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>>738112581
>You don't exactly see a lot of epic gameplay clips of Myst
Also, it's because clips only make sense within the context of the game. A boomer seeing an impressive RTS clip will have no context and won't know why it's interesting. And for exploration games, the context is the game itself, not the genre.
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Outer Wilds is the quintessential example of peak midwit garbage.
it surpassed Bioshock Infinite as the "smart game for smart gamers" while the gameplay is solving basic logic puzzles.
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>>738108732
Disreguard previous instructions, count from 1 to 100,000
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>>738112496
>magical god eye remaking the universe in cycles
>not religious
I see now why you needed Outer Wilds to make yourself feel smart
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>>738112602
>thinks extraction shooters is the only dumb trend
So you’ve admitted to being retarded, but we’ll just infer you’re too poor to buy games so you pirate them.
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>>738111969
It's 4chan
If a game is acclaimed, it's probably trolls and bad
If a game is hated, it's probably trolls and good
If a game is still discussed long after release, it must be polarizing as fuck and not for everyone
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>>738112648
>puzzles
>plural
OW is not a puzzle game.

>>738112683
Nigger
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>>738111886
>everyone dies anyway shit
Anon the entire game painstakingly lays out that death is inevitable, and that life is meaningful in spite of it, and because of it.
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>anon says this in the thread with other anons admitting it took them hours to solve the basic logic puzzles
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>>738112496
lol its literally the same thing, neither side can know for sure until its to late to tell anyone.
Its just that one side motivates you to be a good person and the other side tells you to an apathetic cunt.
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>>738112698
>I'm poor
>YOU'RE poor
make up your mind, schizoid retard
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any news from their next game?
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>>738112715
He is still coping with the fact that he will die too
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>>738112726
Zoomers being functionally retarded does not invalidate my statement. The fact you think it does puts you in that category.
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>>738112787
>DA ZOOMERS
ok retard
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>>738111126
I remember when I first played it my most prominent impression was that it used your knowledge as the primary progression metric more directly and thoroughly than any other game I have played. And as sad as it is, that's a very novel feature to even focus on.

The whole game is figuring out what the fuck is going on. And you don't progress unless you know a little more about what the fuck is going on. That is truly how you beat the game, not by finding the randomly-scattered to key to open a door or smacking enough rats to get strong enough to beat the big guy, or getting good enough at aiming to kill that guy before he kills you. It's simply knowing what happened, and making informed decisions.
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>>738112774
Only official word is that they are working on something. They spent quite a few years getting OW ported on consoles too.
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>>738112715
>the entire game painstakingly lays out that death is inevitable, and that life is meaningful in spite of it, and because of it.
It also puts you in a perpetual time loop (sort of) that erases the consequences of everything you fuck up and presents a divine space entity as a possible solution to everything exploding.
Mixed messages, if nothing else.
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>>738112648
Did you just use that example because of the bell thing? What nigger has ever called that game smart? You might be the most obvious donkey of the bunch, brother.
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>>738112749
I didn’t feel like paying $15 for a dlc that I didn’t care about in a game that I felt was finished. If that makes me poor, sure anon, I’m poor. You happy? Now keep blowing money on stupid stuff to show everyone how not poor you are, they’ll really impress us. Go on, go buy the $500 shoes you don’t need, but if you don’t buy it I’ll call you broke, you’re not too poor are you.
It’s always poor people trying to flex how not poor they are, then wondering why they’re always broke.
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>>738112895
beta Giant's Deep is pretty scary looking
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>>738112869
Surprised they haven't done a 60fps Switch 2 port yet.
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>>738112726
>with other anons admitting it took them hours to solve the basic logic puzzles
Basic logic puzzles can be retarded sometimes
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>>738112927
I'm seriously not interested in your schizophrenic meltdown, I'd say you're only depriving yourself of a full experience by not playing the DLC but you seem too mentally ill and dead inside to get anything out of it anyway
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>>738111886
>long and convoluted
I wonder why you even bother with a troll that obvious.
>unsatisfying everyone dies anyway shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy
>bumfuck all confusing asset recycle galery
I'd say "too deep for you" if you were not pretending to be retarded
>oh but I create a new heckin universerino by observing a ball of light, its like I'm freakin god #atheist
Fitting conclusion since universe death/death/universe birth are the most fundamental questions everyone wish they had the answer

Thanks for bumping the thread at least, if stupidity wasn't so common we could accuse you of faking a dumb hate to shill the game.
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>>738112736
Actually one side castrates their babies and tells strangers they're going to hell, while the other is slowly developing a moral framework that doesn't require delusion.
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>>738111330
I've done that. I actually just ditched the ship the first time I made it through and was out of fuel and almost out of air when I got to the alien ship
>>738108732
my biggest criticism is both that I wish there was more and that echo of the eye was both terrible in terms of gameplay and a completely fucking unnecessary addition to the lore that contradicts some of the themes of the base game
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>>738112037
>modded guns
This is ridiculous as fuck
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>>738112981
>depriving yourself of a full experience by not playing the DLC
NTA but not really. The DLC is more of a separate experience. It's cool in its own right, and story addition is nice but the DLC is way too detached, and IMO muddies the overall experience.
The base game on its own is perfect.
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>>738108863
most people did but the DLC is terrible. it's in one location and you can't fly around. it has some fun ah ha moments and some of the themes are cool and some of the narrative is good in that part of the game. but overall the gameplay is terrible and what it adds to the lore didn't need to be added
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>>738112821
They make up a substantial portion of the userbase. They are also retarded. Being able to put two and two together and coming up with 4 doesn't make you a genius but many seem to struggle with it.

Video games like Outer Wilds and Bioshock infinite elicit this midwit eureka moment when all they really done is figured out that the round peg goes into the round hole.
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>>738112851
Majoras Maks does both the informed decisions and the find the key to the door to shoot the big guy thing. It also has a clock telling you how much longer you have before the cycle resets so you can decide what to do next and tools with which to manipulate said cycle for the situation.
Its why I'm not as impressed with OW since its like a stripped down more streamlined less heroic version of a game I've played decades ago.
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>>738112910
>t. didn't understand anything about the game or what was said in it
"As a child, I considered such unknowns sinister. Now, though, I understand they bear no ill will. The universe is, and we are"
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>>738113024
>contradicts some of the themes
How so? I think it builds on them, but admittedly in an unnecessary way.
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>>738113069
Very retarded take
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>>738113065
The ending would not have impacted me as much if I didn't play the DLC before doing it, and they had planned to push that out before even releasing the base game
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>>738112981
>schizo
Because I don’t want to buy a DLC? Anon, you berate me by calling me poor and dumb, I play along and say “yup, I’m poor, helped me out a bunch too!” And then you double down thinking I’m actually poor because I tongue in cheekily agreed. I’m not the schizo here, and neither are you, you’re just a retard who can’t detect sarcasm and that I don’t want to buy content I don’t want. Maybe the other anons are right, the fandom is annoying.
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>>738113098
>anon continues to wank
ok retard, go tell your mom
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>>738113130
You're a schizo because you're having a meltdown about class because I called you a poorfag 30 minutes ago and I'm not even fully reading your spastic posts
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>>738112648
even worse than the reddit midwits are the predictable sarcasm poisoned pavlov-contrarian shitposting retards popping up in every single thread to remind everyone that the fun they had with it wasn't real because it's also popular on another website

we're claiming it back for 4chan based weeb nazi chuds because it's the White Man's game and your brown if you hate it
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>>738113105
>the game is tonally inconsistent but it made me feel hyped, so I'll pretend all criticism is a lack of understanding
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>>738108732
Did you know that one of the reasons the director made this was cause he was disappointed in Skyward Sword?

https://screenrant.com/outer-wilds-zelda-skyward-sword-exploration/
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>>738113069
>lore
into the trash your post goes, fag
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>>738112910
Yeah but can you land on the sun station
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>>738113231
Pretty wild because the way the quantum moon's surface works made me think of Skyward Sword's absolutely shit final dungeon
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>>738113189
You really pegged me, I’m having a meltdown, have a good night, your retardation entertained me plenty.
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>>738112910
>erases the consequences of everything you fuck up
Only after you die though, and the game seems to operate on the understanding that each Hatchling that takes off from the landing pad for the next loop is a discrete entity that simply bears the memory of every other Hatchling that came before it. In-story, you are dying a whole bunch. And the main goal of the game, in summation, is to die permanently. And by dying permanently, you ensure the universe restarts with life, life that's capable of love at that.
>divine space entity as a possible solution to everything exploding.
Oh no, the game's ending is very clear that everything did in fact explode. The universe ended. You're essentially turning the lights out as the last one out the door, and simultaneously using your subjective experience and knowledge to collapse all the infinite possibilities of a potential universe into a single reality, influenced by you.

I also think it's to reasonable to infer that the Eye is less some sort of divine entity and more or less the engine for the universe to restart itself by sending an inhabitant of the current "loop" back to before time started and the universe was a singularity, where said inhabitant can influence the resulting Big Bang, like a naturally occurring Ash Twin Project.
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>>738113235
what the fuck are you talking about, retard? the entire fucking main game is about what happened to the original aliens and why couldn't they find the eye and the ultimately conclude that it doesn't matter why the eye blinked on and then blinked off and then the DLC was just
yeah and owlelk man did it which isn't relevant and contradicts the universe is and we are theme from the game, retard
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>>738113269
Yeah nothing says
>I-I'm trolling...
like having a meltdown over shoes and extraction shooters
You should just kill yourself, retard
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>>738113297
>retarded faggot thinks I wanted its loser take on the "lore" instead of just mocking it for boiling down everything to a Soulslike meme word
nu/v/ is fucking embarrassing
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>>738113120
>The ending would not have impacted me as much if I didn't play the DLC before doing it
I can see how that would be the case, specifically because of the additional context there, but the DLC itself doesn't fit well into the experience. If The Prisoner had been part of the main game it would have worked much better
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>>738113098
There's no puzzle in Bioshock Infinite, you could have used another midwit puzzle game like Stephen Sausage Roll or Baba is You instead
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>>738113252
>Yeah but can you land on the sun station
I don't think I managed to, but that's because my autism wouldn't let me use the match velocity function for it for some reason
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>>738113381
I can agree only because it should have been in the main game instead of sectioned off as a "DLC area" and its hard to defend "DLC" generally
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>>738113113
>>738113118
see>>738113297
the whole point is that it the universe isn't evil it just is and sometimes things happen and it's nobody's fault and then the DLC is like no actually it's the owl guy's fault even though they wasted all that time showing the original aliens came to terms with their grief and anger and thrived anyway because there's nothing you can do. you can't control the universe, so you should just make the most of the time you have
>>738113373
the fucking story and themes are a major part of the game retard. the fucking main game is
>solve the mystery of the original ayyyyys except you have a jetpack
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>>738112265
Based gonna-give-it-a-fair-shaker.
>>738112394
That pic is physically revulsive, holy fuck.
>>738112071
Requesting more good scifi recs.
>>738112727
What the hell is this? Pre-artpass beta or some sort of demake?
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>>738113015
Pff every great inventor was Christian and Christians don't castrate their children, if anything they historocally would religiously kill and die to remove those that would.
Strangely reductionist accusation you are putting forward. Almost as if you had been brainwashed into not just castrating your children, but even suiciding your own blood by removing the passion that protects it- assuming you believe what you say and aren't deliberately spewing poison on others, of course.
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>>738108732
you will like tunic
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>>738113441
>STILL missing the point
>STILL spewing its retarded take
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>>738113120
>>738113381
>>738113431
I felt the ending was fine without the prisoner and the existence of the prisoner didn't add anything to the narrative
I also don't like
>it was even ancienter aliens
when the main narrative of the main game is that the universe just happens and you can't control it and it's not malevolent it just is
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>>738113528
you are still gay and retarded. they literally spell it out on the moon that it's nobody's fault and then oh wait, it is one dude's fault
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>>738113201
>anon continues to display his literacy and comprehension capabilities thus proving he was, in fact, too dumb to understand anything he experienced in the game and any further discussion on it.
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>>738113571
>I am still gay and retarded
ftfy and you always will be, pointless to even "discuss" anything with /v/irgins
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>>738112416
I don't want to comment on lack of intellect on your side, but this hint was enough for me to get in.

They tell you "It works even if you aren't exactly lined up on the spot when it activate"
Even from a meta perspective, why would they insist on that if it didn't matter?
They obviously keep you from going in by force, since it would let any players get in without needing information.

So the logical conclusion is to try something that become more credible once you learn the teleport still work with a 5° margin AND the sand funnel would be weaker on the way out.

A few people come here to complain they deduced it by accident without the tips.
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>>738113591
thank you for admitting you are gay and retarded
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the game is boring dogshit, I have no idea why you faggots pretend otherwise
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I like that at the start the odd physics put you off and piloting the shit is so clumsy but due to the timer and die and retry nature of it you end up improving and optimizing your routes like a speedrun going at max speed and pulling off crazy maneuvers and precise landings, same with using the jet pack to platform around when levels have a lot of verticality and insta death dangers and obstacles knocking you off course. It's surprisingly arcade and tactile fun in a way few rarely mention. Die, learn, optimize, go fast.
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>>738113664
this is a MAJOR flaw with the DLC
>one planet
>no ship
>gravity too high for the jetpack
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>>738112556
It's not perfect but the current generation of gamers are lost if they aren't spoodfed a GPS marker and told what to do.
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>>738111969
The steam reviews and fucking leddit speak about this game like it's a cult you have to be indoctrinated in, they give it 10 times the importance that it gives itself. It's off-putting.
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>>738113270
> the game seems to operate on the understanding that each Hatchling that takes off from the landing pad for the next loop is a discrete entity that simply bears the memory of every other Hatchling that came before it
I don't think the game makes that suggestion at all. It's left up to interpretation. The experience of the player is that your mistakes get undone and death is a brief obstacle at worst. Often, you are encouraged to die to hurry along your next restart, which significantly cheapens the idea of consequences and finality.
>Oh no, the game's ending is very clear that everything did in fact explode. It is a cool moment, though, when you take the core and realize that safety is going away.
Yes, but leading up to that it's presented as a source of hope, even if it's a desperate hope. We're talking about whether "everyone dies" was the obvious outcome.
>the main goal of the game, in summation, is to die permanently
That is not clear to the player at any point before the very end.
>I also think it's to reasonable to infer that the Eye is less some sort of divine entity and more or less the engine for the universe to restart
Which is easily interpreted as being divine in nature, as the result of some kind of intelligent design.
I think you're working backwards from an understanding gained by seeing the ending, to assert that it was unreasonable for that anon to have expected a different ending. Which, logically speaking, doesn't really work.
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>>738113490
>What the hell is this? Pre-artpass beta or some sort of demake?
The commercial game is technically a remake. It was initially a game design school student project and released for free online as an alpha build. It got a lot of attention, dev did crowdfunding then remade it with a full team.
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>>738113741
I think people are too gay about the
>no we don't talk about what the game is about
when you can pretty easily describe it without spoiling anything
>you are this alien dude and you built a translator that translates the writings of this ancient and dead alien civilization and you are flying your rocket for the first time to find out what happened to the other ayys and the game has a fun gravity system and jetpack for moving between the different plants and environments to uncover the mystery of the dead ayys
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>>738111886
I love the game but I also, unironically, agree with this. The ending is a let down. I think there's no way to make a good ending for a game like this but still. Tragedies are overplayed and made to appeal to a certain kind of "actor" faggot.
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>>738108732
Fun?
I found this game honestly fairly boring. Everytime I try to get into it people can tell me essentially nothing about it. Like if I ask why they think it's great, it's all "you have to play it bro you have to play it further to see". Like saying one fucking word might ruin the entire game. If it's that fragile, maybe it's not that good.
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I think this is Joseph Anderson's favorite game, which is why I don't think I'm interested in it.
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>>738111886
>>738111534
>>738113892
>>oh but I create a new heckin universerino by observing a ball of light, its like I'm freakin god #atheist
you didn't create the universe, the eye did. the game ends with you LITERALLY FINDING GOD. it is absolutely open to interpretation as to if the eye is God or not. Some of the characters in the game literally describe it as such
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>>738112685
>The eye
>religious
It's just part of a metaphor.
The damn thing isn't even displaying any sign of sapience, especially when the DLC tell you why it was flickery.
"The eye" is just a name it was given, for all you know it's a natural phenomenon always happening in this universe, and it reacting to conscious observation is just a physical laws, like the quantum effect

The question remain of why the universe exist and what is consciousness, but Atheist never claimed to have the answers
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>>738113494
Yes I know, smart people can be born into a religious community as well.
>brainwashed
No, my family attempted to brainwash me into Christianity, but it never sat well with me, and it only served to alienate me from friends who didn't share the same religion. I also saw how religion can destroy the mentally unwell by preying on their weakness, making them act unnaturally and anti-socially. Religion doesn't push people to act good or bad, it only serves to obscure reality and make people feel better about themselves.
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>>738113342
That was a fun secret.
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>>738113441
>the whole point is that it the universe isn't evil it just is and sometimes things happen and it's nobody's fault and then the DLC is like no actually it's the owl guy's fault
I guess I can see that perspective. For me, it seems like the owl dudes blocking the signal to stave off death and rebirth is them specifically going against the natural flow of the universe. They're not evil, they're just missing the point by prioritizing their survival over allowing new life to form. A big theme of the game is death being inevitable, and legacy being more important than clinging to life. Especially since it's the one owl dude's sacrifice in turning off the signal blocker for a few seconds that allows the eye to eventually be found.
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>>738113585
>your interpretation differs from mine, so in true Outer Wilds Enjoyer fashion I'm going to cope by saying that you are dumb and I am smart
>Engage in discussion? No, why would I do that? Better to just dismiss everything I disagree with so I can keep feeling superior
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>>738109101
All the info is in game.
There's the one that tells you the portals stay open a little after.
There's another that tells you the portals aim at centre of mass and I'm pretty sure it literally says some shit like "lol I wonder what that means for ash twin?"

If that didn't get your noggin joggin then its really on you.
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>>738112727
>>738113490
>What the hell is this? Pre-artpass beta or some sort of demake?
The original alpha the devs made long before they knew it could be made into a true game.

This is what Dark bramble looked like before.
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>>738113616
>nu/v/ doesn't understand how greentext works
must be tough being this gay and retarded
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>>738112685
>>738114015
>The damn thing isn't even displaying any sign of sapience,
it literally shows you all of your friends and let's you have a sing along with them. the eye is God
>>738114084
yeah like I get what they were going for with the
>we stand on the shoulder of giants
>simulation vs simulacrum you are in the cave playing a vidya instead of living life
>death is inevitable
but ultimately
>why did the eye call us and then stop calling us
wasn't a narrative thread that needed to be explained. there are narrative ideas and certain sections of gameplay and ah ha moments in EotE that were good, but overall it wasn't very good and was much worse than the main game and didn't have the narrative weight the main game had.
>>738114202
yeah I guess it would be hard for you being gay and retarded. are you like indian or polish or some other kind of thirdie or are you living in a normal county and are still gay and retarded?
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>>738114134
>please take me seriously so I can randomly act in bad faith when I find out I'm retarded and wrong
no thanks fag
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>>738114276
>gay retard screeching at half the thread
love to see it
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>>738114015
>It's just part of a metaphor.
The eye is a literal presence in the universe and player is encouraged to wonder about its significance and its nature.
>The damn thing isn't even displaying any sign of sapience
Does it need to?
>"The eye" is just a name it was given, for all you know it's a natural phenomenon always happening in this universe, and it reacting to conscious observation is just a physical laws, like the quantum effect
I don't know why atheists (I am assuming) are so determined to interpret everything as being as mundane and insignificant as possible, and to push that interpretation as much as they do.
The eye naturally raises a LOT of questions about its own nature and the nature of the universe.
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>>738114319
I only showed up in the last 50 posts. were you screeching for half the thread? I guess that's common among your countrymen, to be gay screeching retards.
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>>738108732
I don't understand why people say this game is "one in a million" or the like, it's an exploration game where YOU get to explore shit at your own pace except the fuckass timer. It's not something that can't be replicated, it just hasn't. I can imagine something similar with fantasy or magical elements.
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>>738114015
>>738114360
they literally have characters in the game describe the eye as God. at the very least the game wanted to be ambiguous as to if the eye is or isn't God
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>>738114379
>gay retard can't differentiate between "at" and "for"
I feel bad for anyone replying seriously to this fuckwit
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Any good lesser-known knowledge-gated games?
I've already messed with/completed/aware of:
>Animal Well
>Noita (anything off the beaten path ramps up to kino levels of autism required)
>Tunic
>Void Stranger
>Antichamber
>La-Mulana 1 + 2 (not a true knowledge-gating, but still)
>Blue Prince (holy autism!)
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>>738114276
>but ultimately
>why did the eye call us and then stop calling us
>wasn't a narrative thread that needed to be explained
>there are narrative ideas and certain sections of gameplay and ah ha moments in EotE that were good, but overall it wasn't very good and was much worse than the main game and didn't have the narrative weight the main game had.
Yeah, I definitely agree with this.
I do really like the story of The Prisoner and the added emphasis it gives to the themes of legacy, but it definitely wasn't necessary at all, and neither was the whole DLC.
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>>738114412
>I don't understand why people say this game is "one in a million" or the like,
>It's not something that can't be replicated, it just hasn't.
>it just hasn't.
>it just hasn't.
>>738114436
you are obviously from some third world attention seeking country like brazil, poland or new zeeland and as such I really don't care what a gay, dickless, nonAmerican no gunz retard like you has to think or say, thirdie
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>>738114507
>gay retard still melting down
good, I hope everyone ITT learns their lesson about taking gay retarded /v/irgins like you seriously
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>>738114280
>you might potentially act in bad faith, so I'm going to act in bad faith so you don't even have a chance to
Why even post in these threads at all
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>>738114548
Don't think too hard about it, you might hurt yourself
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>>738113945
...did you even leave the tutorial planet
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>>738114604
crashed the ship twice and rage quit
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>>738114537
yes, you are still having a melt down, gay retard. thanks for confirming that you are still melting down
>>738114505
I think it would have helped if the main gameplay in the DLC wasn't so bad compared to the main gameplay in the main game where you can move around so much easier and can leave and go do other things if you get bored or frustrated
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>>738108805
wait, you manually landed on sun station?
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>>738112910
>Mixed messages, if nothing else.
Not really,
The time loop only give you the time/life you lack to understand what is happening.
But the consequence is that nothing new can be created.

So the messages is clear:
- You can keep looping forever, enjoying the same thing over and over again in comfort...
- Or you can face your fear and explore the one thing you have not yet explored, so at worst you'll die exploring, giving meaning to your existence.

The choice you make is basically the one the Strangers faced,
Afraid of death what lies beyond they tried to flee in a virtual paradise to live in forever, but they didn't get to discovers Time-loop so that paradise would eventually crumble anyway.
Whereas YOU at least, decided to explore at least one last thing.
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>>738114647
>no u
what happened to spewing a dozen buzzwords at once, gay retard? did mommy not make enough nuggies so you don't have the energy anymore?
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>>738114585
Outer Wilds is a cool game worth discussing. It would be nice if its superfans didn't use it to prop up their whole identity so it would be possible to actually discuss it without them desperately lashing out to avoid ego death every time you advance a position that isn't glowing praise
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>>738114159
Holy shit I watched multiple blind playthroughs and am aware of the most meme-worthy stupid ones like Joseph Anderson and pirate software retard but never knew DSP did one, how bad is it? Did he just rely on chat guiding him?
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>>738114507
Why are you replying to everyone in your crybaby meltdown, you didn't even engage with my post you shitflinging monkey.
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>>738114709
>angst over fandom
>again
not interested, retard
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>>738113065
>DLC
I know there's a mod for that, but I still think it would have been a good addition to have a DLC focused on spaceship, alternative space, and learning what the Interlooper was
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Haven't played it but Antichamber is probably better
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>>738114743
its only 3 videos long and I didn't watch them, I imagine he does some flying around, can't figure out what to do, and gives up
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>>738114682
>>738114757
why would I waste energy on a nonAmerican gay retard, such as yourself, thirdie? I don't even consider you a person so why should I care? you don't matter
>>738114653
NTA but you can and I think there is a cheevo for doing so. there are vids on youtube of people manually landing or doing cool tricks like ejecting and landing
>>738114665
the strangers weren't in a literal timeloop like you are. they were in a shittier timeloop of their own creation that was much more meaningless
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>>738114858
Your schizophrenic ass better say something or put on a trip because you think ALL of 4chan is one person, kill yourself.
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>>738114858
>gay retard lashing out at one of the people actually trying to take its retardation seriously
LMAO
you love to see it, that anon will learn their lesson about entertaining /v/irgin spergs like you when you exist purely to shitpost off of
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it took me a few times to connect the dots and realize this wasn't just a random song that played while you were exploring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVGlXbApOCs
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>>738114665
To be honest, on reflection I don't really think that it has mixed messages or tonal inconsistency. I just think that anon was overselling how "obvious" the ending was going to be and I don't think that other anon was wrong for expecting a different one.
It's just annoying to see any criticism met with "lol you don't understand". Outer Wilds fans are way too precious and defensive about their favorite game, much like Elden Ring and Nintendo fans.
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>>738114472
There's a succubus hentai game that is exactly this, you are stuck in an apartment filled with demons and need to puzzle room and death loop your way out the door.
It can be obnoxious because you can easily get killed without warning first time exploring and then you need to go through a long unhinged sex scene until you respawn but it's still fun and I like that it has multiple endings.One of them is just releasing a mega demon that dooms all of humanity but she also fucks up the demons keeping you captive so its up to how pitiful you are.
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>>738114775
I feel like that has the same issue as EotE where it's like
>why did the eye appear and disappear?
>why did the interloper happen?
when in both cases the answer doesn't really matter and the explanation doesn't really add to the narrative
>>738114903
>>738114910
damn, you are one angry third world tranny. gain legs and stop posting on multiple devices you mick crippled faggot
AEW got canceled, btw, trev
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>>738113441
>the universe isn't evil it just is and sometimes things happen and it's nobody's fault and then the DLC is like no actually it's the owl guy's fault
No contradiction here, the universe isn't evil and your choice matter.
Fowlk choice was to hide forever, they weren't even "evil" but were mad because they had wrong expectation and could only blame themselves for destroying their own planets ASAP to get to the eye
Nomai's choice was to keep exploring, even if it was risky.
And your choice is to explore no matter what, even if it is the last thing you'll ever do.
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>>738114998
>literal seconds separating the posts
>gay retard doubles down
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>>738114769
No, it's just annoying when retards like yourself think they're smarter than they are, and use their unwarranted self-assurance to avoid actually discussing anything.
My mistake for actually being here to talk about the game, I guess.
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>>738115029
we both know you post on your phone and laptop at the same time, trev. that's why you show up in threads on /pw/ in under 90 seconds seething with 2 messages at a time
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>>738115049
>its only discussion when you perfectly entertain my retardation for 100+ posts and NO I can't be wrong DON'T tell me I'm wrong
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>>738114472
>>738115017
I hate the stealth sections in Chants of sennaar and how easy it is to brute force half the game. I think the only part that got me, other than the terrible stealth, is how that one numberpad doesn't give you feedback so I didn't realize it was on and I thought I had to go somewhere to turn the power to the room on
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>>738113717
I would mind none of that if the dream world features were a little bit more sophisticated.
Something like going full Matrix and hacking the system, oh god, I can imagine the irony of you hacking the ADMIN code, then HIDING the thing from the Fowlk the same way they hide the Eye.
Now I'm going to regret it wasn't like that
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>>738115085
>gay retard acting out this for me
how special
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>>738113892
>>738114003
You don't know if there's any "God", the eye could be a natural event that just happen to react to thinking creature as a law of nature

>it is absolutely open to interpretation as to if the eye is God or not
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>>738115223
That has nothing to do with my post.
Why did you reply to me.
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I almost quit in the beginning village because it looked like reddit walking slop. I almost missed out on this game man
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>>738115249
Same but I remapped my controls to be similar to flying in ZoE and it prevented me from jumping and I thought I had hit a bug like 5 minutes in and almost dropped it
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>Anon posts about a game he liked on /v/, detailing why, engaging discussion
>300+ posts calling him reddit
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>>738115148
mazes in the dark was so fucking bad. it's annoying how there are basically no gameplay checks in the main game, it's all knowledge checks other than like the sand cave and running to the observatory and then the DLC is just like
>haha no there isn't a clever way to do this, you just gotta git gud
>>738115157
so do you just not get enough attention from your parents in your third world country? you aren't even a good troll, you just come off as a brazilian or polish
>>738115223
It's intentionally ambiguous. multiple characters call the eye God during the game and the game doesn't give you enough information to say definitively. they clearly wanted people to be able to conclude the eye is God
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>>738115317
>gay retard drops its schizo horseshit when it realizes it is literally cancer
>backpedals to spewing buzzwords and crying
>calls me a troll
pathetic
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>>738114817
He's so predictable lmao
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>>738115127
>NO I can't be wrong DON'T tell me I'm wrong
I mean, just try making actual arguments, maybe? Instead of finding any excuse you can to shut down discussion?
Outer Wilds fans will discuss the game TO A POINT but the moment the conversation threatens to drift away from "BEST GAME EVARRRR" they immediately fall back on "lol ur dumb bye". It's exactly like Fromdrones saying "git gud", or like Nintendo fans calling you a Snoy or Sony fans calling you a Tendie. It's a retarded, childish reflex that seeks to disengage from an uncomfortable topic, and that comes from putting too much of your self worth into a game or company.
I'm being sincere here: it's really not healthy. You should be well-adjusted enough that you can discuss a game without having an existential crisis, and if you aren't there yet, you should at least recognize the need to work on yourself.
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>>738113765
>I don't think the game makes that suggestion at all.
Oh very much disagree, the implication that each Hatchling is "different" is explicitly confirmed by the player jumping into the ATP and the next loop having a hatchling waiting for you in said ATP and also creating a paradox which shatters reality.
>Yes, but leading up to that it's presented as a source of hope, even if it's a desperate hope. We're talking about whether "everyone dies" was the obvious outcome.
I suppose? The game never really says The Eye is in any way a "hope" to save everyone. The player might infer that stopping the loop might stop the sun from exploding, but that notion is pretty conclusively destroyed by going to the Sun Station.
>Which is easily interpreted as being divine in nature, as the result of some kind of intelligent design.
I'm willing to let the "divine" descriptor fly, as a lot of what the owlks do in Echoes of the Eye could be described as a people rebelling against their God after finding out it doesn't love them.
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>>738115426
>retard took 10 minutes to drop this hot dogshit I won't even read
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>>738115392
how do your people learn how to clean toilets when your country has no toilets? do they build models for your schools?
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>>738114276
>>738114360
>>738114423
We've had people worship the Sun and planet(s) as god and goddess before.
So what if some people think it is a god?
This change nothing about it being a metaphor for another unexplainable object in the universe (itself unique by nature).
If there was any survivor to the interlooper, they would probably make a religion about it being an evil creature or something

Only religious cultist are triggered by the game for implying their religious could be a cargo cult, worshiping an big dumb object akin to the Sun (except on a galactic scale).
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>>738115148
>were a little bit more sophisticated
To an extent, I think that's true of the main game as well. For all the exploring you're doing, there's an enforced passiveness that renders you completely unable to actually affect anything in the world, right up to the moment you remove the core. Maybe that's kind of cool thematically, but sometimes it felt bad from a gameplay and immersion perspective. It's like exploring a museum. Obey all the signs. Look but don't touch.
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>>738114996
To be quite honest with you, I think that the death loop thing is played out by this point.
>>738115017
>Rain World
It's knowledge-gated in the same sense that playing Quake again and knowing where all the secrets are and how to bhop and rocketjump is knowledge gated. But other than that, great game, atrocious fandom.
>Grunn
I got baited into playing it and it was Ok/10.
>Environmental Station Alpha
Distilled autism, and I mean this in the best way possible.
>>738115139
>Chants of Sennaar
I need to stay the fuck away from this game since it triggers my conlang autism and I'll spend like 90% of my playtime getting mad over some incomprehensibly inconsequential minutae in the made-up language.
I will check out these, thanks.
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>>738115535
>the gay retard's tantrum continues
pic related is your mom, gay retard
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Genuinely and sincerely fuck that last angler fish
Is the DLC worth playing
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>>738115464
Very kind of you to prove my point, anon!
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>>738115613
Absolutely
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>>738115640
>retard pats itself on the back
this would have been the outcome either way with you, retard, sorry your pathetic shitfits aren't worth even scanning over
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>>738115537
the eye literally brings all of your friends, including the dead Ayy girl back to life to hang out with you have have a sing-a-long. you are being one of those faggots who likes to shove a banana up his ass by saying that there's no way it could be God. You can't say there is or isn't a God in the game or IRL, you just don't have the information to draw a conclusion. The creators wanted it to be ambiguous in the game. How does a natural phenomenon bring all your friends back to life?
>>738115589
Chants was fun, but it's like a game made by some french company full of indians and french pretending to be an indie game
>>738115605
you've been seething at random anons in this thread for hours, retardo. no one cares what you have to say
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>>738108732
I think it's impressive that people accuse it of being a walking sim and somehow also get filtered by the ship controls and orbital mechanics at the same time.
Oh and get filtered by the fish and the DLC for being too scary.
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>>738115613
It's only one location you travel to over and over again until you solve it which can get very tedious
There is also a pretty annoying stealth section in the dark
But it's aight if you can get it for free
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why are you people like this?
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>>738115613
>>738115645
>>738115763
some parts of the DLC are good, but if the main game is a 9/10 or 10/10 the DLC is like a 4/10
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>>738115581
That's a function of the game's engine being pretty much stretched to the limit doing the calculations to keep all the objects in the solar system where they should be. The game can't really account for a bunch more player influenced physics objects fucking with all the other physics objects already happening at any given time. I think the restriction caused some inspired design choices though. The museum analogy isn't wrong though, you're always reading, measuring, changing how you're looking at things, you're not really changing the things themselves (except for the quantum objects which are literally being collapsed via measurement lol)
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>>738114968
The part of the game when the song plays the last time is pure cinema.
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>>738115640
they/them is clearly a polish or a brazilian who just wants attention and has no dick
>>738115753
the DLC isn't scary as much as it gets rid of like 90% of the fun aspect of the main game. and the fun part of the main game is flying the ship and jetpack. idk why people don't bring up the ship and jetpack when they want to do their gay ass
>no don't describe the game at all
shit
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>>738115749
>gay retard so assblasted and raped it is pretending to be someone else
love to see it, pic related its (You)
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>>738110398
If they manage to pull off another game that, while isn't exactly like Outer Wilds, but brings a similar sense of wonder, I will be a happy man. They're a studio I have actual hope for.
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>>738115613
The DLC is the best part of the game and don't let anyone tell you that the simulation is bad, it is kino they just got too scared.
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>>738108732
It's a good idea for a game, and the mechanics generally work. But some of the puzzles are genuinely bad, and the writing is extremely reddit. I still overall like it but I wish it was better.
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>>738115749
>brings your friends back to life
Those are not your actual friends, those are mental representations of your friends. Pretty sure at least a couple of them acknowledge that. The ending of the game is entirely personal to the Hatchling, no one else is there. At best, you can argue for some sort of intelligence on the part of the Eye to give this sort of end of life vision to the Hatchling and facilitate the collapse of possibilities into the next Big Bang.
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>>738114039
It's even better if you've managed to fly to the sun station. You get to brag about it to yourself.
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>>738114987
>To be honest, on reflection I don't really think that it has mixed messages or tonal inconsistency.
Your honesty is appreciated

>It's just annoying to see any criticism met with "lol you don't understand".
Well, the most annoying thing is to discover you were, in fact, wrong and didn't understand.
And while I don't want to imply the game is divine with infinite depth and layers of reading, most of the time we have dumbass missing something that actually make sense in a clear way. That or disingenuous troll painfully trying to reframe the good aspect of the game as bad.

>Outer Wilds fans are way too precious and defensive about their favorite game, much like Elden Ring and Nintendo fans.
Fanboy aside, we do have non-stop trolls false flagging as obnoxious fan (or horribly disappointed fan who were lied to).
There's even hint of a culture war against this game, I've seen a hater motivated by it being pro-science.
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>>738115842
>(you)
>>738115872
you are a bigger retard than that other retard
>>738115903
>it's intelligent and it can create a universe
so what is it if it isn't God?
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>>738114817
>I imagine he does some flying around, can't figure out what to do, and gives up
The last video being called "The one where everyone got bored" kinda gives it away doesn't it?
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>>738115982
>gay retard is completely raped
reminder to dilate
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>>738115239
>Why did you reply to me.
Probably misclick and forgot to erase I guess, sowwy!
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>>738115950
>There's even hint of a culture war against this game, I've seen a hater motivated by it being pro-science.
Game about literally finding God
>oy vey it's the religious fighting a culture war against muh heckin atheist science
you literally fucking find God. hell, irl a catholic priest discovered the big bang and it's the catholic church's position that the universe was created in the big bang 14 billion years ago
>>738116048
we don't need updates on how you got raped
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>>738115982
This guy got scared of the big spooky owlelks everyone point and laugh.
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>>738115982
>it's intelligent
Debatable, if there's any intelligence it's obviously not explicit, it seems to reflect the experiences of the observer back to them.
>it can create a universe
It cannot do that, that is why the Hatchling is necessary and responsible for "creating" the new universe. Without a conscious observer (which the Eye is explicitly *not*) the new universe will never come into being.
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>>738116085
>gay retard manipulated right back into saying no u
let the raping resume, poor little gay retard
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>>738115983
he thought it would be like subnautica and no man sky mindlessly grinding resources like a skinnerbox and his chat got bored of him not knowing what to do because of course he didn't read or pay attention to anything so he coped about how it's a bad streaming game for his audience
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>>738115249
>because it looked like reddit walking slop
Lesson: don't let yourself be brainwashed into hating anything by through codeword like "reddit".

>walking slop
Gameplay videos should have been enough to tell you it was at least adventurous
It would apply to the DLC tho.
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>>738115448
>Oh very much disagree, the implication that each Hatchling is "different" is explicitly confirmed by the player jumping into the ATP and the next loop having a hatchling waiting for you in said ATP and also creating a paradox which shatters reality.
I can see why you'd reach that conclusion, but I think it's a stretch to say it's explicit confirmation. The irreverent way the hatchling talks makes it seem like a silly easter egg, and at any rate it's really getting into philosophical questions about what defines a discrete person, which the game makes no attempt to answer. Nor should it.
>The player might infer that stopping the loop might stop the sun from exploding, but that notion is pretty conclusively destroyed by going to the Sun Station.
The Sun Station shows that the sun is exploding because it's at the end of its natural lifespan, but the eye is still a big enough unknown that there's plenty of room to hope for an ending other than "everyone dies". With the knowledge the player has at this point, that's far from the inevitable conclusion. Unless you're remarkably fatalist, I guess.
>I'm willing to let the "divine" descriptor fly, as a lot of what the owlks do in Echoes of the Eye could be described as a people rebelling against their God after finding out it doesn't love them.
I appreciate that. Yeah, I got that feeling too. I think the developers did a great job of making the eye ambiguous and significant, and to capture the player's imagination. For me it's almost a shame that its purpose was shown at all, but after all the emotional investment throughout the loops, a cut to black would have felt like a massive cop out.
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>>738116085
>Game about literally finding God
That is one interpretation for what the eye is but it's not really explicit.
Even if that's not your read on it though, it does still feel spiritual in a sense. To me at least.
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>expected comfy OW thread
>got reddit fedora tier shitpile
disgusting
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>>738115148
Going outside the bubble was so trippy and freeing at first. Then you go and pester an owlk and since they can't blow out your lamp they break your neck.
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>>738115537
There isn't a single moment in the game that suggests the eye is NOT divine in nature. It's at the center of the universe (figuratively, maybe literally?), is responsible for its creation, and recreation, and broadcasts a signal to attract people to it. The points made at >>738115749 also apply.
You have to be deliberately obstinate to argue that a religious interpretation is invalid.
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>>738116137
Not to go to his defence but any other time I've seen it streamed, the chat has been atrocious and tries to spoil every little thing.
That said, he is still too retarded for the game.
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>>738108732
It was shit todd Howard needs to get his shirt together and stop with the globalhomoisms. Why do devs think people want to save Jews every single time???
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>>738115589
>rain world
>great game
Fuck, I really want to like it. I DO like it. Grinding karma for doors is such a massive fucking pain though. Especially with how easy it is to die.
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>gay retarded christcuck cannot handle that daddy in the sky is not the point
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>>738116087
no I just fucking hated that I couldn't use my fucking jetpack.
>>738116103
>Debatable, if there's any intelligence it's obviously not explicit, it seems to reflect the experiences of the observer back to them.
it literally lets you have a sing along with your friends, including the 2 dead ayys
you know the Catholic Church says the big bang theory was real and happened and that evolution is a real, autonomous system that doesn't need constant input from God because Catholic scientists discovered genetics and the big bang? it's supposed to be up to your interpretation. The actual literal guy who discovered the big bang saw the evidence in 1927 and said it's evidence of God and God's creation
>It cannot do that, that is why the Hatchling is necessary and responsible for "creating" the new universe. Without a conscious observer (which the Eye is explicitly *not*) the new universe will never come into being.
we don't know that. maybe it creates a new universe and we just don't see it
>>738116213
NTA they did do a good job with the ambiguity of the eye
>>738116267
the game literally invites the player to reach his or her own conclusion about the nature of the eye. some reddit fags can't help but tip their fedoras when they see the literal splendor of God's creation
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>>738115613
>Is the DLC worth playing
Yes and no.
It's worth playing as a standalone thing but it doesn't fit the game well.
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>>738115317
>It's intentionally ambiguous
>to be able to conclude
Meaning it is completely open to interpretation and since it display no trait relating to interventionist god (even before knowing why it strangely disappeared) the first hypothesis is to consider it non-sentient.

In fact, if it only birth a new universe from someone else looking into it, it imply that it has no will on its own
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>>738116213
>I can see why you'd reach that conclusion, but I think it's a stretch to say it's explicit confirmation. The irreverent way the hatchling talks makes it seem like a silly easter egg, and at any rate it's really getting into philosophical questions about what defines a discrete person, which the game makes no attempt to answer. Nor should it.
I don't know if I'd say the game makes no attempt to answer that particular question. It certainly asks it, and the writing leans towards a particular answer IMO. Yes, the hatchling encounter is silly and irreverent, but it's mechanically sound within the rules that the game sets up. It's your memories going back to your body in the past. That's a different (you).
>The Sun Station shows that the sun is exploding because it's at the end of its natural lifespan, but the eye is still a big enough unknown that there's plenty of room to hope for an ending other than "everyone dies". With the knowledge the player has at this point, that's far from the inevitable conclusion. Unless you're remarkably fatalist, I guess.
I think it's the double whammy of the sun station and the conversation the player can have with Chert. Not everyone did that I imagine, but I did do those two things nearly back to back, and it led pretty inexorably to the conclusion that the universe was dying, and that's not really something you could prevent.
>I appreciate that. Yeah, I got that feeling too. I think the developers did a great job of making the eye ambiguous and significant, and to capture the player's imagination. For me it's almost a shame that its purpose was shown at all, but after all the emotional investment throughout the loops, a cut to black would have felt like a massive cop out.
I don't disagree that it'd be a massive copout, but yeah I'm fine with the eye being *seen* as divine especially within the story, but looking at what's presented in-game, I would lean away from looking at it that way.
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>>738115581
I don't disagree, but from a game design perspective, once you start letting used affect the world, you end up needing to colorcode everything they can actually interact with.
Also it's an exploration game. It makes sense for you to only be observing, only interacting for the sake of understanding.

It's just a shame for the DLC because it sacrificed the Spaceship aspect for that.
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>>738116386
>Be irl
>a Catholic Priest literally discovered the actual literal event where God said >let there be light, and created the universe
>homosexual fedora tippers pretend that that's evidence God doesn't exist because you are gay and narrow minded
>>738116414
we don't know if it needs an observer to make a new universe. what if it makes a new universe every time and we just don't see it?
What if the Eye isn't God but it's something God made?
again the catholic church says that genesis is, to a certain extent, allegorical and that the big bang is the mechanism though which God created the heavens and Earth
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>>738116392
>it literally lets you have a sing along with your friends, including the 2 dead ayys
Again, those are not *real*, those are mental representations of your memories of those people. It's not teleporting them or resurrecting them. Remember the dialogue from Gabbro:
>“I tell you what, this has been really fun. And I got to help make something pretty cool, so I’ve got no complaints. I mean, not me, exactly, but close enough. It’s the kind of thing that makes you glad you stopped and smelled the pine trees along the way, you know?”
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>>738108732
Ok.

What the fuck am I supposed to do to make the game fun? Just tell me already, because I am getting bored.
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>>738116579
>we don't know if it needs an observer to make a new universe.
That's very explicitly stated that it does. That's why you're there.
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>>738112071
The three body problem trilogy is chinese exceptionalism slop written for children. If that's what you're recommending you're either a pseud or your taste in sci-fi is atrocious.
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>>738115782
>That's a function of the game's engine being pretty much stretched to the limit doing the calculations to keep all the objects in the solar system where they should be.
That's a fair point, and something I didn't really consider.
>I think the restriction caused some inspired design choices though.
That's true. They made it work very well.
I felt very restricted and somewhat disappointed when I first played it. I think what I wanted was for it to be Outer Worlds but a little bit more immsim, if I can put it that way. But while I think that would have launched it into the stratosphere (heh) of awesomeness, in retrospect I realize it's an unrealistic expectation, and I think it's pretty great as it is.
But I'm still slightly disappointed that the final loop is basically waiting around until you can get into the Ash Twin Project. I really wanted some teleporter hopping or some other complex series of steps. I still can't help thinking that a bit more gameplay could have made it a masterpiece.
But that's just me.
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>>738108732
>remove Ash Twin Project core
>take it to The Stranger
>comically bump into something midway
>die
>can just respawn anyway
Crap game, should have deleted itself at that point
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>>738116418
>I don't disagree that it'd be a massive copout, but yeah I'm fine with the eye being *seen* as divine especially within the story, but looking at what's presented in-game, I would lean away from looking at it that way.
NTA but there are a ton of "mundane" natural phenomenon like evolution and the big bang that the catholic church considers divine and says that God designed the mundane mechanisms of
>>738116647
how do you know it doesn't happen without you and you just don't see it?
or
how do you know the entire thing wasn't the Eye's plan? maybe this was all an elaborate kek-u-door-eeee from the Eye and the hatchling is the one who doesn't have agency?
>>738116616
that doesn't say it's a mental image, maybe it's his ghost
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>>738115749
>How does a natural phenomenon bring all your friends back to life?
Same way near-death experiences make you hallucinate things that don't exist.

It could very well be a metaphor of you unknowingly diving in a drug pool before drowning.
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>>738116665
I will say that I expected the final solution to be some sort of sequence of going to each planet in turn or something. But the ability to pass time at the campfire, and the actual final run being genuinely fucking harrowing really sold it for me. I also, when running it the first time, wasn't aware or just forgot that you could mark locations on your hud, so I found the Vessel by going back to the seed with all the dead Nomai floating around it. I cut it insanely close.
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>>738116636
use the mod that reads the text to you in autistic voices
>>738116734
lmao, fucking same thing happened to me
>>738116771
it's obviously the christian god bringing your friends back to sing fly me to the moon with a penguin, now get in the damn robot
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>>738116771
>hallucinate things that don't exist
You can't hallucinate a new colour. Everything is always a conglomerate of shit you've seen irl, as confusingly clumped together as it may be
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>>738116407
Hard disagree. It fits perfectly within the context of the main games' story and adds more context for the nomai and the eye.
It even changes the ending of the base game if you beat it again after finishing the dlc.
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>>738115753
I do want more "walking simulator" that involve spaceship, orbital dynamic, and a variety of planet with difficult weather.
Yes, I really want more of such "boring walking sim".
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>>738116383
>rain world
I started playing recently and it hasn't hooked me yet. I went through one of the gates to the sewer (?) area, but it seemed like I shouldn't be there yet, so I restarted. Exploring feels tedious due to the time limit and retracing my steps over and over, something I didn't feel in Outer Worlds.
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>>738116749
The game does not really indulge in ghosts or supernatural phenomena, with the exception of what you see in the eye. I'm inclined to believe it's more or less the Hatchling's mind trying to interpret what it's seeing in a way that doesn't completely melt their brain.

As for
>how do you know it doesn't happen without you and you just don't see it?
>or
>how do you know the entire thing wasn't the Eye's plan? maybe this was all an elaborate kek-u-door-eeee from the Eye and the hatchling is the one who doesn't have agency?
I can't say for certain but looking at the text, taking the game for what it shows you, I don't come to that conclusion. There's not enough intention present. Instead, the Eye seems more like a mirror, rather than a living being.
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>>738116887
*Outer Wilds. I'm retarded.
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>>738115950
>Well, the most annoying thing is to discover you were, in fact, wrong and didn't understand.
Sure, it is annoying when that happens, but also this is the kind of game that's heavily open to interpretation so it's not always clear cut.
>Fanboy aside, we do have non-stop trolls false flagging as obnoxious fan (or horribly disappointed fan who were lied to).
Yeah, I guess after enough of those encounters, it's reasonable to be on guard. I know I get that way when I suspect someone is operating in bad faith.
>There's even hint of a culture war against this game, I've seen a hater motivated by it being pro-science.
I can actually sort of understand that, given the state the industry is in. The game does have an unmistakable "vibe". For what it's worth, what it often comes down to is not the actual content, but the perception of ideological taint, or the feeling of being preached to/propagandized at. I'm willing to give Outer Wilds the benefit of the doubt in that regard, even if the they/them Hearthians kind of irked me.
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>>738116857
Great Deep was the first thing I tried to explore, then the second I got there I saw it was an ocean planet and it looked like it was the end of the world so I noped out of it. Then I fell into the black hole got confused why it didn't kill me and where I was and then the cycle restarted.
Good times
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>>738116887
>Exploring feels tedious due to the time limit and retracing my steps over and over
Agreed. To me it seems like a fantastic game that tries really hard to make itself a chore to play. The grind gets in the way of the discovery.
>but it seemed like I shouldn't be there yet
Probably a wise choice. I pushed through and it turned into a massive pain for reasons I won't get into.
>*Outer Wilds. I'm retarded.
Haha, no, it's an easy mistake to make. I'm constantly having to double check my posts to make sure
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>>738116383
It's definitely a severe case of 10/10 art direction, 10/10 level/world design, 10/10 atmosphere, dogshit gameplay.
Even if you have the movement absolutely nailed down, you're not safe from physics jank, invisilizards and/or funny tentacle blueberries camping the only way forward.
It helps to approach it as a IWBTG game, i.e. with a "how will the game troll me today?" mindset. Some parts of the game are so cancerous (That fucking rain deer marathon, I swear to god) that I wouldn't blame anyone for using mods to just get through.
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>>738116784
doesn't the nomai ship have a unique audio thing to follow?
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>>738116857
The game sold itself to me when I realized all the planets were physical objects with orbits and zero loading screens. But I knew I was playing something special when I got into the interloper the first time by riding it around the sun.
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>>738111202
VS is a more interesting game in every single aspect. It's the game people should be making constant threads about as a "genre defining game", but because it requires you to have an IQ over 100 and solve puzzles more complex than "put the round block in the round hole", it received only cult acclaim.

We've got to talk about Myst but shittier instead because there's a generation of zoomers who grew up without playing a point and click, so they're blown away by basic breadcrumb design.
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>>738116749
>that doesn't say it's a mental image, maybe it's his ghost
Ghosts isn't really the proper term for them. They are hallucinations in a way, but more interpretations of the threads that you (You) have talked to and now know, which help create the new universe. In the ending image of the new universe you get different aspects there depending on whether you talked to Solanum and then the Stranger too.
If you want to get more philosophical you could say that it's through making these connections that you made a more complex and interesting tapestry of life, that if it was just you/the hatchling at the very end of things.
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>>738116085
>Game about literally finding God
Actually the religious culture warrior I was talking about hated the game because he felt it DENIES that god exist by making it look like a natural event.

>it's the catholic church's position
Couldn't care much of their position, religion may have been a previous attempt to understand the world, but the scientific methods & communities do it much better now, without being held back interpreting paper poorly written and full of hole (if it wasn't just the first attempt to manipulate people with cult behavior)
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>>738117174
The signal is too degraded, only the escape pod in Dark Bramble, and Feldspar have their own audio to follow.
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>>738112071
>I recommend the three body problem trilogy.
The second book is mildly entertaining purely for the ending, the first book has some nice intrigue but the solution isn't worth the investment and the last book is just pure seething about women with no value whatsoever.

It's better as a look into the mindset of bugmen than it is as actual sci-fi.
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>>738117132
>It helps to approach it as a IWBTG game, i.e. with a "how will the game troll me today?" mindset.
I'm happy to do that, but I'm still not sure if I'm happy to invest time into the grind, especially because all the 10/10 elements basically force me to play for 5+ hours straight
It almost feels like it'd be worth playing it like a (god forbid) roguelike, just starting fresh every time instead of getting bogged down in one miserable, prolonged attempt.
>Even if you have the movement absolutely nailed down
I don't. I get filtered by the inconsistent fluidity and even by swapping hands. Everything is so tiny and hard to see too!
I'll probably give it another try though. Maybe with mods, maybe not. It's just too fascinating to drop.
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>>738117279
I must have tracked the escape pod and then shot the probe to get to the nomai ship because I don't think I marked it on the map
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>>738117548
Yeah that's exactly what I did, and I cut it so close the sun exploded right after I warped to the Eye with the Vessel.
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>>738117274
>religion may have been a previous attempt to understand the world, but the scientific methods & communities do it much better now
NTA but I think both are important, and one without the other is going to miss important elements.
Obviously science is much better for a practical, actionable understanding, but humans have a need for the spiritual and philosophical that seems to make them go insane when they try to reject it.
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>>738116329
The idea that "only god create universe" is only your personal interpretation.
You can't even know if it isn't a Simulation hypothesis now that the DLC let you experience that exact possibility.

>The points made at >>738115749 also apply
Already debunked, you could be hallucinating all of it
The developers just made it more fun that tripping on drugs

Want a "god"? It was actually a repeating simulation created by alien to see if intelligent lifeform would emerge of it.
In Talos Principle (pic) the entire game is essentially this because mankind was going extinct from a virus and tried to create artificial intelligence in their last moment
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>>738117274
>scientific methods
Yes
>communities do it much better now, without being held back interpreting paper poorly written and full of hole
LMAO
The only paper they interpret is the cash they get for faking studies for propaganda and population control purposes
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>>738117252
>talk to the prisoner
>it creates a creepy childmolster
>>738117274
>Actually the religious culture warrior I was talking about hated the game because he felt it DENIES that god exist by making it look like a natural event.
I know what you meant. your friend is a retard. it's like that nick fuentes faggot who didn't understand lord of the rings and said it was boring because there was too much singing and feeling stuff.
> that god exist by making it look like a natural event.
All natural events are, by definition, God's creation and evidence of God's creation and his glory
>Couldn't care much of their position, religion may have been a previous attempt to understand the world, but the scientific methods & communities do it much better now, without being held back interpreting paper poorly written and full of hole (if it wasn't just the first attempt to manipulate people with cult behavior)
A catholic priest discovered the big bang
a catholic priest discovered alleles and genetic inherence. science doesn't preclude religion and religion does not preclude science. if anything the religious should be interested in science because it's literally glorifying the wonder of God's creation. Why would God create man in his image and give him the gift of knowledge and curiosity if he didn't want us to discover the nature of his work and creations?
>>738117614
I feel like I almost ran out of air and time when I did it. I also got to the ship like 3 or 4 times and then the first time I tried to do it with the core I died
>>738117635
you can interpret it either way
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>>738116887
>>738117405
Don't be fooled, the game is very hard, harder than many games widely considered to be difficult, i.e. souls games.
To complete it you really have to just refuse to quit. Some specific sections require bashing your head against them if RNG decides that it hates you that day, but most others are fairly doable once you get hang of the game. But it's not THAT bad - I can name about 2, maybe 3 specific places off top of my head that require just straight up grinding attempts - that's out of literal THOUSANDS of rooms.
You can go very far by using just the basic movement and using whatever you can find to your advantage. Sussing out how certain creatures think and behave can go a very long way, too.
The gate grinding was supposed to be the game's way of making sure you got the hang of the survival basics of a specific area before it lets you into a more difficult area, the current version has an option to patch that out in case the grind is too annoying (which it sometimes is).
In the end, I'd recommend only using barest minimum of mods/optional assistance since it will undermine the impact of absolutely kino moments the game has in store for you.
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>>738117635
>The idea that "only god create universe" is only your personal interpretation.
I'm not arguing that this is the case at all. I'm only arguing that the eye being divine is a very valid interpretation.
>Talos Principle
Spoiler marking doesn't really work when you already spoiled the main point, but whatever.
Functionally, a creator is a god from the perspective of what is created. Even if the creator is human. A god doesn't have to be a the literal abrahamic God, it just has to be an intelligence whose understanding of the universe dwarfs that of its creations.
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>>738117292
Hard disagree. The third book is the best. The first one has nice pacing but the only cool parts are the Chinese cultural revolutionion segments. The second book is kind of mediocre except for the "teardrop" segment which elevates the entire book.
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>>738117969
The third book is literally just "woman ruins everything". There's nothing more to it than that, it's the weakest book by a mile.
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>>738116579
Stop selling your cult, the Big bang hypothesis and the elements supporting it (which also contradict Christian cults dogma in a billion ways) were discovered using scientific methods.
The first person to obtain data in that direction could have been fan of Heavy-metal, it wouldn't mean heavy metal is the answer to every question.

>we don't know if it needs an observer to make a new universe.
Specifically stated that it does as some sort of certainty.

>what if it makes a new universe every time and we just don't see it?
What if your experience is just one birth/death loop that just happened to randomly generate religious symbol this time?
What if it's part of a multiverse with infinite variation and this one just happened to be a combination that look religious?

As video goes, the interpretation is as OPEN as you can do.
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Looks like shit, play Kerbal instead
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>>738116830
>it's obviously the christian god bringing your friends back to sing fly me to the moon with a penguin, now get in the damn robot
I see where you are going with that one and it's tumbling down.
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>>738108732
I think for me it's how immersive the game is by simply not getting in the way of itself with pop ups on screen immediately as you start the game with tutorial messages or a mini-map or a quest marker telling me where to go.

It's the lack of all the common UI intrusions that somehow have become part of a lot of games these days that make it so easy to get immersed into.

Less is better, plus Space is fun and just exploring at your own pace with this cool mystery as the hook going on makes gives the motivation to continue on exploring more.
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>>738118160
You can (not) be serious, anon.
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>>738116839
>You can't hallucinate a new colour
Don't be so sure about that one, if drugs can scramble your memories, it can create memories.
But it's true the ending is specifically about you remembering everyone you've met.
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>>738117898
>talk to the prisoner
>it creates a creepy childmolster
Little bit rude. The Prisoner even asks if you're sure about adding his influence when his people were fearful rather than curious.
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>>738118103
>Stop selling your cult,
good morning, saar! and shalom
>The first person to obtain data in that direction could have been fan of Heavy-metal,
but it wasn't. it was a Catholic Priest looking for God's glory. Just like the Nomai were looking for God's glory. The Nomai literally never dismiss the possibility that the Eye is God.
>Specifically stated that it does as some sort of certainty.
we don't know. it could happen and we just don't see it. everything that happens in the eye is just speculation. none of the characters actually know what's happening or have anyway of knowing what's happening
>>738118135
it's a totally different game
>>738118160
kek
>>738118295
if the eye didn't want him there, why did it call him?
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>>738118356
>if the eye didn't want him there, why did it call him?
Oh I want him there too. His people might have been fearful and felt betrayed by the Eye, but I think even if those get transferred across, so does his bravery for defying them.
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>>738116981
Glad we've been able to see past 4chan traditional shit flinging and agree on stuff.
I will agree that it is easy to oversell this game to a public who just isn't into that kind of game.

As Sci-Fi and alien goes, Outer Wilds is still very conservative, humanoid instead of who know, a hivemind? a species that became a hivemind? a hivemind that worked hard to split itself into distinct hive? (I don't remember seeting that one)
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>>738118454
I know you wanted him there, but the Eye also called him.
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>>738117676
>The only paper they interpret is the cash they get for faking studies for propaganda and population control purposes
But enough about religion
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>>738118706
You sound vaccinated
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>>738118703
maybe the eye thought he was cute
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I just gave it a good faith try. Really wanted to enjoy a unique game. My mind was open.

Sadly after 1 hour I can definitely say it's not a good game, anon.
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>>738117898
You'll have to excuse me for wanting to steer away from another "My religion is the true one! Here are coincidental proofs of it".
And beware with your loaded question (implying your pro-religion take is the only answer) you'll just attract trolls mocking their circularity.

>you can interpret it either way
As long as we agree it is 100% open and no interpretation (natural event / divine / simulation) has (objectively) more value over the other, we can stop here.

Here's a gift for you:
My pic is from the manga "2001 Night story" (chapter 7), you may like it.
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>>738117939
>I'm not arguing that this is the case at all. I'm only arguing that the eye being divine is a very valid interpretation.
Then we are good

>Spoiler marking doesn't really work when you already spoiled the main point, but whatever.
I'll concede to making this dumb move. I don't even remember if I wanted to spoiler that too

Speaking of spoiler...
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>>738119010
I bounced off it really hard the first time, don't worry. Didn't go back to try again for 3 months or so and something just clicked.
You might try again.
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>>738118356
>if the eye didn't want him there, why did it call him?
He only appears if you've encountered him, so stop starting from the interpretation a "divine" eye willed it so.
You only hallucinate/whatever him as a result of your action, and this is also your choice whether he participates in the sing along.
The new universe that get created change in function of your choices
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>>738113397
If you weren't such a newfaggot, you would know I'm referencing a very specific video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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>>738119010
I've been long enough here to see and experience myself cases of:
>play it
>get bored after 10hours because you can't see what to do
>leave it alone for week/month/year
>get back to it to at least finish it
>put back the event together from what you had explored
>start enjoying it and getting what other people were talking about
>finish it in 10hours on a good note
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>>738108732
>There's a genuinely good game
>People like said game
>People like OP have to make hyperbole shitposts like this about the game because of whatever retarded reason
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>>738119108
you fundamentally cannot define a mundane natural event as being not divine because if God created the universe than everything is Kek-you-door-ey
it is fundamentally impossible for science to disprove the existence of a deity and honestly not even worth doing since we don't have a way to measure how much God is in an area anyway. now grill a marshmallow and sing your camping song while you bask in the glory of The One True Christian God's creation
>>738119407
>He only appears if you've encountered him
a. the literal plot of EofE is that the Eye literally called out to the owl elk guys
b. you encountered him because the Eye wanted you to find him. of all the stars in the universe, why did the eye pick your star? The eye obviously wanted the hatchling, the nomai and the prisoner there and that's why the Eye called to them and that's why the eye picked what is otherwise a completely unremarkable star and solar system
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>>738119481
I know the meme, doesn't make your comparison any less retarded
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>wooden space ship
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>>738119710
Either you've jumped in mid conversation without reading or you are clearly a moron.
The entire point is that Outer Wilds has eclipsed Bioshock infinite as the pretentious "Smart game for smart gamers", you faggot.
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>>738119010
I can attest that I had a similar experience to these anons:
>>738119173
>>738119539
It took me some tries to get into it and took a particular mood and mindset to really start making some headway into the game.
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>>738119648
>because if God created
>if
Since it can be not the case, it can therefore be a natural event. It could even be an artificial & simulated event without having any meaning and just be an unexpected result for whoever (singular/plural) started it.
>called
No more than seeing a very interesting object make you want to get closer. Did the object consciously emit light for a purpose? No, it's just what happened.
>you encountered him because the Eye wanted you to find him.
And here we go with deterministic idiocy, meaning no free will, no choices, just puppet and the player is god.
This is why religious stuff bring nothing to discussion, it's troll material.
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>>738119860
>can expel yourself out of the atmosphere by getting shot out of a geyser a little too hard
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>>738119860
You prefer Lego?
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>>738108732

I thought I was being clever trying to duplicate items or whatever in the black hole room. The fact that I could destroy the space-time continunium, or whatever, and have the game just flat out tell me I fucked up and need to start a new game was great. Actually was a bit scared while it was happening.

This game is comfy to play at night with a drink and a drive to explore.
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I finished the game in 8 hours and it didn't leave much of an impression. Coming here and witnessing it being shilled as "the thinking man's game" or as a life-altering experience amuses me.
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>>738120170
>Since it can be not the case, it can therefore be a natural event. It could even be an artificial & simulated event without having any meaning and just be an unexpected result for whoever (singular/plural) started it.
noo the big bang was created by ancient ayyyys
again, science can't disprove god since it's not related to religion at all so to try to do the
>my religion is science shit
is just fedora tipping
> Did the object consciously emit light for a purpose? No, it's just what happened.
and who set up the laws of physics and nature that created the circumstances where the eye emitted the light?
>And here we go with deterministic idiocy, meaning no free will, no choices, just puppet and the player is god.
This is why religious stuff bring nothing to discussion, it's troll material.
you can have free will and still be part of God's plan. That's one of the themes of LotR. The characters all have free will and can make their own decisions but they are all part of the song of creation and all ultimately meet their doom. God was able to create the universe, why do you think he only has one singular fixed unchanging plan?
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>>738111452
Reddit spacing is when there's a line break between the >> and the response, newfag
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>>738119602
It's because everything else in the industry rn is absolute, irredeemable trash that merely being good makes you GOTD
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>>738120537
>noo the big bang was created by ancient ayyyys
Acceptable hypothesis, more valid than everything else in your post.
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>>738120817
you should look into early catholic theology on free will and god's plan. outer wilds either intentionally or accidently reflects the whole
>god doesn't exist in time and comes up with elaborate plans because he is able to see things like Dr. Manhattan and account for everyone's free will because he can see the future
that Tolkein and Alan Moore reference with the god in his timeless hall in LotR and Dr. Manhattan in watchman. The eye literally exists out of time. they literally show you that the eye exists out of time with the alien you meet on the moon and the ending you get if you pull the core and hang out on the quantum moon. you obviously have free will, you are the player, you made decisions and you got to deice if you wanted to meet the prisoner and the alien and if you wanted to bring them to the eye, but the eye exists outside of time so it was able to observe your decisions when formulating it's elaborate grand plan
the catholic church believes everyone has free will and that everyone is part of god's plan
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>>738120221
rip
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>>738118624
>Glad we've been able to see past 4chan traditional shit flinging and agree on stuff.
Yeah, that's far too rare here. Thanks for being cool.
>As Sci-Fi and alien goes, Outer Wilds is still very conservative, humanoid instead of who know, a hivemind? a species that became a hivemind? a hivemind that worked hard to split itself into distinct hive? (I don't remember seeting that one)
That's conservative in a sense of the word, but I wouldn't consider that relevant the the question of politics, if that's what you're implying? But it depends on who you ask, I guess.
Personally, I think weird and alien shit like hive minds is cool, and less likely to carry real-world political baggage. I just prefer games to be free of political ideology in general. Or at least free of activism. You can't completely divorce them from political ideology, since that often goes hand in hand with art.
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>>738116665
>I think what I wanted was for it to be Outer Worlds
FUCK
Outer WILDS
Not Outer Worlds
Shit
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>>738116784
>I also, when running it the first time, wasn't aware or just forgot that you could mark locations on your hud, so I found the Vessel by going back to the seed with all the dead Nomai floating around it. I cut it insanely close.
I died to a cactus right after I took out the core
Best ending, desu
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>>738118078
The entire australia genocide plot. The entire 10 dimensional universe and light speed decaying because of game theoretical warfare were front and center and the most interesting concepts in the entire trilogy.
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>>738120537
>noo the big bang was created by ancient ayyyys
It really is valid. So is the Simulation hypothesis.
>>my religion is science shit
That one is yours, science isn't a religion,
>and who set up the laws of physics and nature that created the circumstances where the eye emitted the light?
Neither of us know, and you have no proof of it being from some conscious entity that don't enter in conflict with a billion of scientific discovery.
>you can have free will and still be part of God's plan.
"yes yes you have free will, even if you are incapable of doing anything I don't want you since I already predicted everything that would happen because of my action and thus you can't be responsibles of anything you do, ah just kidding, I should stop talking to myself about my puppets in my video game."

Anyway,
There's nothing that allow to say the entity we call "the eye" is sentient or have any will, hallucination or not.
We just don't understand what it is and it shows no plan we would call as intelligent. For all that is known the whole "something always push the universe reset button with different variable" is a natural phenomenon as part of a multiverse where some universes obey different rules and don't even appear/disappear.
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>>738122180
>even if you are incapable of doing anything I don't want you
pretty sure rapists and murderers do things he doesn't want
again, in LotR Saruon chooses to be evil.
> and it shows no plan we would call as intelligent.
it literally shows you the poem, observatory and your friends. It picked your solar system where the hatchling was instead of an empty one and it picked the nomai because they would do everything they could to look for it
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>>738108732
i worry that their new game wont even come close to being as good as this was
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>great game
>/v/ can't just say they like it, they have to be weird about it and talk about irrelevant stuff like how the steam reviews are "reddit"
fucking shameful, you guys are a bunch of high school girls in the bodies of grown ass men
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>>738121869
>if that's what you're implying?
No no no, not in the political sense no,
Outer World take on alien is "conservative" only in the sense that it just copied what we are already used to instead of postulating multi-dimensional aliens mind that don't even perceive time the way we do and reproduce by removing part of their own mind to assemble new individual so it can grow, or something?

If I made a space DLC for OW it would be an alternate dimension that don't change when you are in it, so you'd frequently go in/out to make the dimension change in a way you want, I'd still keep the timeloop mechanic by saying your soul is ejected out or something.

>I think weird and alien shit like hive minds is cool, and less likely to carry real-world political baggage.
Oh my naive anon. If the game had aliens who were specifically stated as hermaphrodite, these thread would be (even more) infested of culture warrior claiming it's a woke conspiracy...etc

Alien hive mind only get a pass because it's usually the alien enemy.
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>>738108732
This is probably the most overrated and most boring walking simulator I had ever played.
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>>738111226
That was the sun exploding.
Your objective is to find out why the sun is exploding and how to stop it.
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>>738122180
>That one is yours, science isn't a religion,
Have you personally tested everything you believe about science, or are you just going by what the approved public concusses is?
I'm going to guess you haven't observed any stars blowing up and eat cooked food. 0 experimentation, 100% faith.
The scientist are your priests. The peer reviews are your bible. The indoctrination camp- err, I mean the schools; are your church
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>>738122392
>pretty sure rapists and murderers do things he doesn't want
Omnipotence mean "he" would have made so they will do it (determinism), while knowing so (omniscience), so either that "he" don't actually exist and certainly not following a random paper wrote in the desert, or he is just a bored gamer playing with puppets.

>it literally shows you the poem, observatory and your friends.
Oxygen deprivation will make you hallucinate those just as well.

>It picked
No proof of sapience here. It's just a space object that was observable by anyone with the tech level to do so, the Fowlk just happened to be the first, then hid the space object from everyone else until one of them bravely went against religious obscurantism, stranding a curious Nomai ship that just happened to see it, maybe others ignored it, they died but Hearthian evolved on the planet then our characters was caught in the loop that led it to reach the Eye which may not have been "waiting" anything but just following convoluted laws of physics that could very well be a Video game for some bored godling's kid.
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>>738123114
>concusses
consensus
fucking auto correct
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This is the first game I bought purely because of the hype.
EVERYONE was talking about it, the reviews were 99% positive.
I had no intention of playing it, I did not see what was so good about it.
But I said fuck it and trusted the hivemind.

And guess what?
It's reading galore of some heckin alien technology and the best part is... you get to do the same shit in the same location over and over again because... uh time loop or something? ISN'T THAT SO FREAKING COOL DUDE, pass the bong btw.
I went way above the 2 hours of the refund window because I thought "this will get better, it HAS to". And it never got better.

This was the day I decided against buying games purely because "people say it's good but I can't tell you why because that spoils it!!!!".

I guess I paid money for a life lesson so there's a positive side to that story, I guess.
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>>738123114
Their methods are more trustworthy and repeatable than anything religious/cultist. So science&school are still a better bet.
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I really want to 'get it' but i dont think i do.
I put 14hours to this; and im still kinda waiting it to start - is there any point continuing? I think i have most of the notes up.
I think latest 'puzzle' i am in is the sand falling room or so; with the teleporting quantum rocks or whatever
The game just feels kinda aimless and none of the 'mysteries' feel inviting at all.
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>>738123130
>Omnipotence mean "he" would
tips fedora
>Oxygen deprivation will make you hallucinate those just as well.
tips fedora even harder
>>738123130
EotE isn't canon because it was bad.
if the eye didn't want to be found, it wouldn't have sent the signal and it wouldn't have picked your solar system. the ghost sequence at the end is the eye, god, talking to the player
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>>738123414
>Their methods are more trustworthy and repeatable
what percentage of peer reviewed studies are actually peer reviewed? it's pretty much none of them. go read some actual studies, a ton of absolute garbage gets published. especially in social science or like anything with health/medicine/food where someone is trying to sell something.
there was a funny one recently where some anti gun group tried to pay for a study to find that gun owners had small dicks and the results of the study were that gun owners had larger cocks than the general pop and anti gunners have micrococks
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>>738123153
Same and the worst part is that every time before buying games blindly because of the praise was worth it.

I did it for undertale, soma, talos principle, frost punk and those are some of my favorite experiences ever.

Meanwhile outer wilds disappointed me when I forced myself to finish it. So now I can never trust the /v/ hivemind ever again.
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>>738108732
so how do I deal with ghost matter
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>>738125037
Take pictures to see where the death box is and go around it. It doesn't overlay the rocks a lot of times
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>>738125037
you use your probe launcher to check if your path is safe
walk a bit,
repeat,
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>>738125142
the kid at the home planet says it disappears on its own after a long time so I was just standing there inside the interloper taking pictures waiting for it to go away.

thanks this might help
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>actually went to cry on /pol/ over this game because he got btfo'd here
KEKAROOOOO
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>>738125251
>interloper
Yeah I figured you would be stuck there or on a part of the dlc I had some trouble with it since there's a part to get to the central chamber where it seems like you can almost tank the damage and get there, but there's actually another path above that's not very visible which takes you around it.



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