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refuse wasn't part of the original release.
It took them till may or june, can't remember, to release an extended cut for the ending

I did Destroy becaue the goal from ME1 onwards was killing reapers so I killed them.

>>738110093
But what do you need refuse for when destroy is the best ending?

>>738109936
because the ending scenes originally didn't have the monologue parts making the result of your choice extremely ambiguous.
it ended with the normandy crashing on that random planet.

The whole series was marketed as a story shaped by your decisions and the conclusion of the entire saga was reduced to three buttons with almost no relevance to the decisions made throughout the series.

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>>738110898
Hmm. The Protheans built the Relays and the Citadel...until we realized it was a reaper trap...
Hmm...The Protheans built the Crucible plans...
besides, I'm not throwing away the peace I made between organics and synthetics over fear.

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>Why does the internet hate it so much?
Ending was way too kino for smoothbrainers.

>>738111301
>I'm not throwing away the peace I made between organics and synthetics over fear.
For a couple seconds I did think it was kinda dumb that I spent the games trying to make peace but then I thought "they're just robots, who gives a fuck" gotta make the touch choice

>>738111790
tough choice*

>>738109936
Third game was dogshit from the second it started with one or two moments in between that weren't repugnant dogshit. Your shit taste is your issue.

>>738110131
I did Destroy because it honestly seemed the Paragon choice. I do not believe for a second that Control would actually have played out the way they said it would. It was too clean. I thought the colors were swapped at the end as a mind game.

>>738109936
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/mass-effect-3-endings-reception

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>>738109936
I didn't mind the ME3 ending. It wasn't great, but it didn't invalidate all the good things in that game.

>>738111564
>red ending
>blue ending
>green ending
>kino
lol, the worst offender was the star child though. Casey Hudson has been ousted of the industry and didn't create a single game since that ending. I hope this curse follows him to his deathbed.

>>738109936
The ending is entirely fine in a vacuum, and if you're playing the series now for the first time, there's probably no issue.

The issues people had at the time was the bait n switch the devs and EA pulled with their promises vs what they actually delivered. That and Bioware/EA were heavily pushing DLCs at the time which weren't normalised as they are now.

>>738112257
also https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/marauder-shields

>>738109936
a better /v/ would have posted a traffic light as first post and your thread would be dead

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People wanted a happy Disney ending where a magic fairy wipes away the reapers and everyone lives happily ever after, I actually liked how bleak the destroy ending was, because Mass Effect 1 started out as a really dark cosmic horror game, but then again most people never played the first game so wanting a Disney ending was a given.

>>738109936
>but everyone lives for now
Except EDI and the geth.
And before you give a smarmy "and nothing of value was lost", the geth are cooler than like half the other races, fuck you.

>>738109936
Remember they had to expand upon the ending several months after release. The initial release was far, far, far lesser what you saw. But first impressions are everything. Look up the original endings and not the extended cuts if you dare.

The whole game is terrible. Anyone telling you it was good up until the ending is a liar, a faggot, and a terrorist.

There are human supremacist organizations abducting young nubile Quarian women on their pilgrimages and sexually conditioning them to be subservient to human men

>>738111130
Thinking about it... Smh. Beware Bioware

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>>738109936
Because retards expected some kind of feature length film to play after the game ended to tie up every single characters story for them with no ambiguity.

The series had always been heading towards Synthesis, the relation between man and their creations and the question of what constitutes life was not only recurring in the series but fucking pummelled into your thick idiot brain throughout the entire saga in the 3rd game where you deal with the Geth on Rannoch. Yet somehow """""""people"""""" still got upset there was no "you win unequivocally and defeat the reapers now here's a summary of every character you ever met's life after the game ends".

This is an irrefutable truth nuke, don't waste your time replying unless it's to agree.

>>738113593
As someone who was fine with destroying synthetics, I don't even consider the destroy ending that "bleak" lol. Rather "disney" you might even say.
>>738113995
And nothing of value was lost. I did however have to keep reminding myself that EDIs booty was not real.

>>738109936
>Why does the internet hate it so much?
Because you didn't play the original version.
They re-wrote, re-recorded and patched the ending to make it less awful.

>>738114590
it's funny with the extended cut seeing the normandy just fly away after crashing when back in the day a lot of people originally got the impression that they were now stranded on that planet and had to repopulate or something.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution was endlessly shat on for the ending being decided entirely by what button you choose to press in the last 2 minutes of the game, and then Mass Effect 3 did the EXACT SAME THING...except Mass Effect was an actual trilogy with "choices that matter" whereas DE:HR was a prequel that had to contort itself to produce the world as it was in the OG Deus Ex.

>>738114717
Sex with Mewtwo.

>>738115282
>except Mass Effect was an actual trilogy with "choices that matter"
You are the type of retard I am referring to here
>>738114717
The game has to end eventually
>erm bro why the fuck didn't i get a 5 minute explanation of what happened to minor character #2657 whom i spoke to in ME2, my choices literally didn't matter aaaaaaiiiiieeeee

>>738109936
i was lead to believe my choices would matter

>>738115470
tbf tho i lost faith in the whole trilogy at the start of #2 when i wasn't allowed to tell Martin Sheen to fuck himself. shoulda made it a non-standard game over but they couldn't even muster that for a fucking roleplaying game.

>>738115553
Do you really honestly think selecting a dialogue option and getting booted to menu because you just declined to initiate the plot is something that would improve the game

>>738109936
Fuck you.

>>738109936
>read up endings
>it's just avengers endgame
muh colored things. why are people surprised?

>>738116143
Please don't compare mass effect to marvelslop you piece of shit

>>738116257
Its the same shit, settle down.

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>>738116297
You have 3 seconds to leave the thread.

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It goes like this:
>ME3s ending is shit
then you think about it more
>all of ME3s writing is shit
then you think about it more
>ME3s writing was shit because ME2s writing was shit, it was a side quest that had nothing to do with stopping the Reapers
then you think about it more
>Mass Effect 1 was filled with side quests that had nothing to do with stopping the Reapers while the main mission is literally called "Race against Time"
You basically realize the entire series as a whole was ill-conceived and poorly planned, and just embrace the good and the bad for what it is, was, and never will be again.

>>738114763
>I don't even consider the destroy ending that "bleak" lol
Everyone at the citadel died. Millions more most likely died from the relays being offline. Parts of the galaxy were probably without contact for years until all the relays got repaired.

>>738112437
>some sweaty nigga mentions "how come you can't shoot the space kid" as a joke in readit or some retarded forum
>they unironically added exactly that out of pure unadulterated butthurt about the whole situation
That shit will never not be funny.
Game story had (still has) more issues than just the ending, kind of a shame because it also has really good parts.
I hate biowear and that Hudson faggot so fucking much, I really loved this "series" back when it was just 1 game.

>>738117609
I shot the kid as a joke then had to restart from so far back because you can't fucking save the game.
The way it's done is kinda funny though, you just shoot a kid that doesn't react and a demonic godly voice immediately shouts out "SO BE IT!" and the game goes to cutscene.

>>738114763
What do you mean "Disney"? Without the Relays we are talking complete societal collapse. How is that "Disney"?

>>738116394
>>738121325
Uh, because organics still get a chance to live after almost being destroyed by reapers? Sounds pretty fucking disney happy ending to me considering the circumstances. It was a war, of course there were casualties.

>>738116393
then you think about it more
>ME2 was the best game of the series and on the top 5 games of all time
then you think about it more
>you're a faggot
then you think about it more
>I hope you die of tertiary pneumonia due to AIDS

>>738109936
the ending you got was extended after the lawsuit to actually give it a decent explanation. the stock launch ending was just lmao everyone died, lmao everyone is assimilated, lmao almost everyone died but maybe lesser races without ftl lived.

>>738116393
>ME3s writing was shit because ME2s writing was shit
No. All ME3 had to do was not be shit at the things it was trying to do. This is blaming your issues on other people mentality. Only mentally ill people think like that.

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>>738122614
i understand what hes getting at, me3s writing was shit because they speedran the final game because they wanted it to be le ebig trilogy. 2 shouldn't have even been made, mass effect 3 should have been mass effect 2 and mass effect 3 should have actually finished the fight in a meaningful way regardless of everyone living or dying. Because they wasted 1 out of 3 games in their trilogy on dogshit filler and gay sex with alien faggots, you got a rushed subpar product for your third title thats gameplay was marred by the dogshit gameplay changes to make it smoothbrained for retards in mass effect 2.

>>738121621
>>Uh, because organics still get a chance to live after almost being destroyed by reapers?
Oh yeah, you get to die from starvation, disease or a million other things, as medicine, food and other commodities become scarcities, as everything is cut off from the others. Fucking magical, man. Just like the Black Plague. Couldn't live in a happier time.

>>738122717
>>i understand what hes getting at, me3s writing was shit because they speedran the final game
That's ME3's problem.

>>738111564
Kill you're self.

>>738122717
It's not 2's fault that they wanted to cap off a trilogy. That's entirely on ME3.

>And to deflect the likely objections: Yes, the rest of the game is often quite good, and there were many “fanservice” moments where players got things they had been hoping / waiting for since the original game. But right now we’re talking about the ending to Mass Effect 3, which I rank as the worst ending I’ve ever personally played. Worse than KOTOR 2. Worse than Neverwinter Nights 2. It fails thematically, it fails logically, it fails at basic coherence, and it fails to be consistent with what has come before.

>I know it’s childish and melodramatic when fans say, “This new thing has RUINED this series FOREVER!” I don’t want to go that far, but I will say it’s done a lot of damage. I just finished a re-play of Mass Effect 1, and it’s shocking just how many things seem stupid, contrived, inconsistent, or pointless now that I know how they turn out.

>And no, I’m not a believer in the “indoctrination theory“. I think that would be better than the ending we got, but I don’t think it it was ever intended by the writers. This theory involves an incredible level of subtle symbolism, which goes against just how ham-fisted the rest of the story is. To wit: If these writers thought Shepard was indoctrinated in the last stage of the game, we would know it

>>738123280
KotOR 2's ending was a little unsatisfying, but not godawful like the whole of ME3 is. There's very little in ME3 worth talking about positively.

>>738123280
>The explanation for the Reapers is that they destroy all life, every 50,000 years, in order to fix the problem of synthetics rising up and killing their organic masters. This is akin to, “You burned dinner, so I have incinerated the city to save you from the dangers of a kitchen fire.” It’s ludicrous nonsense. It’s not even a solution to the stated problem. It’s just a bigger and grander version of the original problem, running in parallel.

>I know we were all worried that the Reapers were going to be some horrible cliche. “Two million years ago, our creators gave us a simple order about being the ‘most powerful’, and our robotic monomania has driven us to this cyclical killing spree to fulfill it.” Yes, that’s a little tired. I admit that wouldn’t have been terribly stimulating. But I’ll take “tired cliche” over “comical blatherskite” any day.

>The most offensive thing about this is that you’ve likely got Geth fighting at your side, along with EDI. You have two different synthetics as allies. It’s a major theme of the Quarian storyline that the Geth repeatedly spared their creators, despite having both the means and the justification for eliminating them. The central motivation of the villain is directly undercut by the story itself, and Shepard can’t even bring this up in conversation. The writers couldn’t even be arsed to hand-wave it.

>>738123395
Why can't you type out opinions of your own? Why post other people's stuff?

>>738123395
>No matter what choice you make using the Ending-o-tron 3000tm, it shows the mass relays exploding. In Mass Effect 2 (in the DLC) it was a major plot point that an exploding relay would destroy the entire system. The game gives us no indication that this case is any different. So what happened? Did Shepard just wipe out every single inhabited star system? Did Shepard end up killing more people than the Reapers? We can’t know for sure, but that’s only because the game can’t be bothered to answer trivial questions like, “Did I just blow up the galaxy?”

>The crucible is the ultimate weapon, derived from Prothean ruins, yet it was never mentioned or hinted at in any of the previous games. None of the beacons talked about it. Vigil didn’t bring it up, and I’m willing to bet the Prothean squadmate (a DLC character) doesn’t mention it either. This is because it wasn’t planned at the outset. It’s a late-story asspull done by writers who never had a plan.

>Wrex isn’t going to lead his people, Tali isn’t going to build a home on Rannoch, Ashley isn’t going to hook up with her family, Miranda isn’t going to see her sister again, and Garrus is done being Space Batman. If EDI managed to hook up with Joker, she can look forward to watching him slowly die of fever, malnutrition, and broken bones. This is assuming you didn’t kill her with the Ending-o-tron 3000tm.

>Perhaps you’re one of those people who think of malaria and parasites as “bittersweet”.

>>738123564
>still pasting someone else's opinion
>still reddit spacing
Good morning, sir.

>>738123745
Not even the same guy, but the endings have been discussed to death. And there are people that will articulate arguments better than you, me, or him. However, if agreeing with, or espousing, another man's argument is wrong, then I would hate to see what your take on murder is.

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Listen guys, the endings were crap but we should discuss the most important thing about the games:

Who's the best girl?

>>738124138
So it's not the color of the beam but color of the cheeks clapped?

>>738124207
Exactly my good sir, in the end its all about the cheeks.
They can be younger blue cheeks, they can be rather mature blue cheeks or maybe the mystery spider cheeks inside a protective suit.
Maybe the delicious genetically engineered human cheeks?

>>738123994
If you can't make the argument yourself and you just paste someone else's words, you're a faggot. And I think a murder is fine, too.

>>738109936
You compromised and got Indoctrinated.

My biggest pet peeve was that I 100% agreed with EVERYTHING the illusive man and Cerberus did. I aligned with them in all choices through ME2 because I agreed with their philosophy and methods. Then in ME3 they become the antagonists for no reason, especially because I agreed with their plan for taking control of the reapers for humanities gain. They even have a control ending for fucks sake. Would it be so hard to just have a couple of lines where you are on good terms with Cerberus? I felt the agency being yanked away from my throughout the entirety of mass effect 3.

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>>738124518
At least you admit you don't intend to be taken seriously.

>>738125192
>AI is the only way Miranda doesn't look like a goblin

>>738125192
God damn machines ruined her ass.
HERESY.

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>>738113593
>People wanted a happy Disney ending where a magic fairy wipes away the reapers and everyone lives happily ever after
This is always parroted by RETARDED FAGGOTS that think endings red, blue and green for an RPG that had endless fucking choices along the trilogy which could have easily had multiple endings referencing their path. RETARDED FAGGOT DEVELOPERS like the fart-huffing diversity-fellating ubishit subhumans (who are, God forgive me for uttering this word...c*nadian) don't like actually working in favor of outsourcing labor to smelly indians. No, it's not that you made a shitty rushed ending to the trilogy because your studio turns tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer money into sprites of asari copypasted running in the background like this is an eastern euro RTS made in 2001.

...but no, piss and squeal that they wanted rainbows and cupcakes when everyone clearly shit on you for reducing Mass Effect to RED GREEN BLUE you retarded c*nadian faggots.

>>738124138
Ashley, my based trad bigot wife. God I love her. (She's not actually bigot but she makes redditors seethe for some reason so)

>>738109936
>an entire fanbase was sold on the game on the promise that your choices matter and carry from game to game
>conclusion is literally "Which ending do you want? A or B (or C)?"

Might be different if you're experiencing it for the first time after being accustomed to modern slop, and knowing it's not actually a smart game going in. But 2 and even moreso 3 were massive let downs at the time, after the promises devs made surrounding the launch of 1.

>>738112257
The viral marketing here was off the charts for this one too. I still remember that full page ad from IGN and the bullshit previews.
The mass effect 3 ending shitshow led directly into gamergate too. It's why everyone was so ready to attack game 'journalists' when the 5 guys story came out

>>738128261
Shes good, if I had to settle on a hostile planet with one of them she would be a great waifu.

Synthesis was the only "good" ending because it guaranteed 100% that the cycle stops.

>>738124138
Kasumi

>>738110093
And yet Refuse will be the grounding for Mass Effect 4.

>>738114717
Yeah nigger when you wasted all of ME2 doing retarded sidequests and erasing everything from ME1 you aren't going to be able to wrap things up in a single game.

>>738129824
Quite acceptable good sir!

>>738130014
More like enjoyed the fuck out of yourself doing awesome sidequests and erasing everything from ME1.

The original ending was too black pilled for normies. Adding the color thing was fake and gay.

The real ending is that dark matter consumes the entire universe and you cannot do anything about it along with the reapers

>>738109936
You need to have a slightly elevated IQ to understand why people found this offensive back in the day

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>>738116393
This applies to literally everything. There comes a point when you need to suspend your disbelieve and just enjoy something for what it is rather than being an edgy teenager that never grew up

>>738130269
Hi Lupe.

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>>738130402
HI, MANNY!

>>738130269
Jack was surprisingly nice as well.

>>738130468
Until she got hair, became ugly, and got all better in 3.

>>738109936
originally shep could only survive if you did multiplayer shit

>>738130513
Bioware in charge of fixing things ;_;

>>738130116
Nowhere did I say that doing retarded sidequests isn't fun. That's why I enjoy RPGs.
They autisticly narrowed the focus onto Reapers as the sole movers in the universe instead of all the other shit they could have done and flailed impotently trying to create an antagonist as cool as Saren and Sovreign with Cerberus and all the baggage with it. I'm still angry about these specifically but there's way more that I just don't remember
Batarians as a Citadel peer and contesting Humanity's territorial claims? Reapers killed them all
The Quarian v Geth? Secret Reaper.
Genophage? Cure or pretend to cure because Reapers.
Pre-Prothean races? Completely irrelevant
Prothean relics translated via Shepherd's Cipher? Completely irrelevant.
Cerberus? Nope, just Reaper.
Rachni? Reaper.

>>738130713
The vast majority of that is 3 garbage, though. 2 is near perfect.

I'm doing a new playthrough as the bitchy infiltrator renegade femshep since I never tried it. In ME1 I can concede her VA was much better than man shep.

>>738130832
The gap closes quickly even in 1, because she tries to sound tough in ways she's not. Meer just speaks like a man.

>>738130990
In ME2 he was hilarious and in ME3 I thought he was basically perfect. Its really just ME1 where he's oddly the worst performer

>>738130832
Her VA is trash. I've got no idea why you people pretend otherwise.

>>738131190
She's pretty good dependent on role (I came buckets to her as Bastila), and Meer sounds REALLY bad at the beginning of the game.

>>738130832
I can concede that femshep VA wins the first game because Meer came out of the gate a little flat. However 2 and 3 easily go to Meer as he really stepped his game up. People who try to say femshep is the real shep are either gay or a big stupid jellyfish.