Are we staying up to 2am to preorder...?
No
>>738120942The only platform on there that deserves support is android and that's barely, given what Google's doing All the others deserve to go extinct and valve shouldn't validate their proprietary shit
>>738121027Then I will not validate a purchase
>>738121061GoodYour custom is literally worthless to valve if you want to use it for things they don't want it used for
>>738121121>you MUST conform
What the fuck is Lizard mode?Also, do they plan on upstreaming their driver to the mainline kernel?
>>738121154But you're the one that wants to conformMove to Linux or be the treated like the second class consoomer goycattle you are
>>738121165>What the fuck is Lizard mode?
>>738120942Yellow applies to anything you can add to non steam games on steam btw. Far better than you think it is.
>>738121232>CONFORM and MOVE TO LINUX
>>738121165The underlying controller functionality that activates when higher functions have stopped. Think of it similar to lizard brain.
>>738121315>Using the most individualistic platform is conformismJust admit that you're on other platforms because of your goycattle inertia and not a conscious choice
>>738120909Why spend so much on a controller when 99% of games play better with KB+M?
>>738121367Honestly, the only reason I don't use linux is because it sucks for what I primarily use my computer for.
>>738120942Linux is going to have support for it quickly surely. My fucking wii u controller is natively supported
>>738121232You don't have to move to linux, just have steam installed, like literally any pc gamer since 2012>>738121315
>>738121404Yes, that's goycattle inertia It's not a choice
>>738121428I'd choose linux if it was viable
>>738121454Viable for what? Proton had made so many windows programs work anyway now.
>>738121454No one is telling you that you have to do it 100% of the time and can't keep a a partition or a drive with windows
>>738121454It is, you're just retarded or console wars goycattle
>>738120909>Are we staying up to 2amYeah.> to preorder...?Nah to monitor dump trucks.
>>738121514>>738121536It plain sucks for audio production/mixing, both the hardware and software isn't supported properly making it a PITA to get anything done.
>>738121454>I'd choose linux if it was viableI use to be like you, then I realised linux only becomes viable when you actually fucking use it.It might be true that you can't use your exact current work flow or exact tools on linux (but you probably can), but I can almost guarantee you can do the work with other tools and work flows.The sooner you abandon the jeetware the better mate, it's only going to get worse and christ almighty 10/11 is already pretty fucking bad.Grab an extra SSD, throw a linux distro on it and start figuring out how to do what you need to do on linux before your livelihood is completely at the mercy of street shitter bloatware.
>>738121605Dual boot Just because a raging alcoholic can't quit cold turkey it doesn't mean he should continue drinking himself to death Lower the dose
>>738120909I'm tempted but I don't want to spend that much on a controller without trying it first.Also idk what I'd really use it for, most games I prefer keyboard and the stuff I use controllers for is mostly old console games that wouldn't really benefit from stuff like the trackpad.
>>738121681>>738121853I'd rather stick with what werks, it's not like I need to update nor migrate to anything any time soon. My last workstation lasted me 10 years with minimal changes, and is usually ran offline. I don't need to update to the newest winblows version. I'll try linux again at some point, maybe tinker with the idea once in a blue moon, but as of right now it objectively fucking sucks for what I do. You'd have to selectively choose the exact compatible hardware to make it even viable, and even then you can expect to do regular troubleshooting rather than creating.
>>738121904That's goycattle inertia
>>738120909No. I play KB+M and already have a decent controller for the few times I would use a pad
>>738122056Or you could play kbm games on sc with no drawbacks, or arguably better in some cases.
>>738121904>I'd rather stick with what werksWindows no longer just werks mate. Everyone who uses it professionally knows that, even those just using it normally know that, which is why everyone from the creative industries to giant companies to entire governments are moving away from it.>My last workstation lasted me 10 years with minimal changesNot the way Windows works anymore and certainly not moving forward. Not even LTSC works like that anymore.>I don't need to update to the newest winblows version.Again not the way windows works anymore, they will force dependency for something onto their latest OS, most likely through mandatory security upgrades and the likes. You will be forced to update and upgrade constantly and subjected to shitty borked updates.This notion that windows is more dependable from a creative or commercial standpoint is a completely false economy, productivity for windows machines is terrible. Quit making excuses and ween yourself off of that dogshit, the sooner you do the better off you'll be, or have fun with Windows 11's kernel level AI DMCA'ing your own audio work.
>>738122279I don't think you grasped that in no way do I need to use these systems online
>>738122140Or I could not
>>738120909I'll pre-order tomorrow morning, staying up late's just begging to get sick.
>>738120909I think I'll wait for the bundle.
>>738122448I guess. I hate sitting at my desk all the time, kinda nice to play on the couch or anywhere else
>>738120942WTF is BPM?
>>738122807big picture mode
>>738122361>I don't think you grasped that in no way do I need to use these systems onlineThen fuck knows why we're even having this discussion which is about the best path forward, if you're just sitting around on old air gapped machines you have no horse in this race mate.Anyone running currently supported software will become reliant on specific windows updates and effectively gate kept behind those updates which you will be forced to go online to get and that will be a constant cycle.I run 50+ air gapped machines, I know what running windows offline at scale looks like and what hindoows 10//11 does to force compliance with it's "service" all too fucking well.You're making excuses and quite frankly if you're running ancient, air gapped machines with old software, that's even more of a reason to be using linux, not less.
>>738122807>WTF is BPM?The thing that makes you go "WTF" when you accidentally click it.
>>738120942what a joke
>>738122836I'd sooner switch to macOS than Linux. I don't have the time nor the patience to have to DIY every fix to make what I do viable on Linux, the support simply does not exist and everything needs a workaround.
>>738122982>I don't have the time nor the patience to have to DIY every fix to make what I do viable on Linux, the support simply does not exist and everything needs a workaround.unc thinks he's still in the 90's lol
>>738122982so how many minutes have you used linux for? zero?
>>738123160>>738123206https://youtu.be/UaY23TSa4-0?si=1grhlI77fRoueZxh&t=765
>>738120942>Full supportI don't see a problem. Unless you are still on saardos 11
>>738123216Dual bootJust because a raging alcoholic can't quit cold turkey it doesn't mean he should continue drinking himself to deathLower the dose
>>738120909There is little point in owning this unless you want the Steam Machine, in which case you should wait for the bundle.
>>738123269I'm sure if I had all the time in the world, these are all problems that are solvable, but I just don't have the ability to take 4 hours in the middle of my day to start googling things to figure out what's going wrong with my computer when I have a session that's due.
>>738123346so how many minutes have you used linux for? zero?
>>738123383enough to know it's distant 3rd place
>>738123412not enough to even argue that you deserve an opinion apparently
>>738120942Why is /v/ defending this anti-consumer shit?
>>738122982>>738123216Just so we're absolutely clear, your "pro Windows" argument now hinges on.....using Apple products?Top fucking kek my street shitter friend and well played.
>>738120942>Lizard mode
>>738123468>anti-consumer shit?they're all proprietary platforms that want valve to play by their own closed source shit instead of supporting an open source controller standard
>>738123521...what are you even talking about?
>>738123412>enough to know it's distant 3rd placeDoubt it, you can't form an argument with anything in the way of specifics or experience, just vague statements and non-arguments that haven't held water in decades.
>>738120909FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>738120942>phull sapportHoly shit lmao and steamies act like they aren't indian
>>738120909Saw Gabe in brisvegas not long ago, I know everyone talks about how he's lost weight, but he's still the sort of fat that turns heads here kek>$150 dollary doos>for a fucking controllerBit rich m8
Linux users have never worked in their lives and don't understand that time is money. They live in their mom's basement and fix their Linux 24/7.
>>738123565trying to get just about any audio interface to play ball in linux is like pulling teeth
>>738123531Do you have ssomething agaissn't lizardss?
>>738123649so you're the guy that has zero linux experience and were too pussy to respond to posts that asked you to stop imagining shit?
>>738123468Seems fairly pro-consumer to me. It's basically saying "get rid of the cancer and you'll get what you want".
>>738123685All you do is run neofetch because you don't have any other programs.
>>738123346>I'm sure if I had all the time in the world, these are all problems that are solvable, but I just don't have the ability to take 4 hours in the middle of my day to start googling things to figure out what's going wrong with my computer when I have a session that's due.Gonna laugh my ass off when jeets delete your work and bork your OS with an update. Windows is literally the last OS anyone who values reliability, consistency, performance and system control uses.
>>738123761>with an updateWhy would I update?
>>738123758see? you can't even bother putting up a front and lying about your linux experience because you have none, you're just a fucking useful idiot sleeper agent for microsoft making up shit about things he doesn't understand out of some gay tribalistic impulse
>>738123649>Linux users have never worked in their livesLiterally what? Every critical and important job on the planet that is done with computers uses linux.
>>738123761Remember when Windows 10 straight up deleted peoples "My Documents" folders with an update? Good times.
>>738123685>/v/ is one person
>>738123685>so you're the guy that has zero linux experience and were too pussy to respond to posts that asked you to stop imagining shit?It's 100% the guy, look how he squirms when pressed for details.It's probably a fucking jeet.
>valve shill talking to himself Sorry, but you won't get paid for this.
>>738122807Big Picture ModeThe "i want my steam to glitch my desktop into a console" modeYou buy the steam controller if>you want to play on a couch and NEVER on a desk>you DON'T PIRATE GAMES AND EXCLUSIVELY BUY GAMES ON STEAM>YOU DON'T USE WINDOWS>YOU OWN A STEAM DECK AND PLAN TO BUY ALSO A STEAM MACCHINEIf you DON'T fit in ALL these points = don't buy
>>738124239wtf does that have to do with a steam controller?
>>738123468Ok, let's see the alternative.>PS5 controller>Only works OOTB when wired, lose half the features (notably haptic feedback) otherwise>Switch controller>LMAOIf you hate Steam that much, you can always return to monke.
>>738124414you're right I should really post that on /prod/ and link it to the fag that claimed I hadn't tried linux
>>738124402are you retarded?even as a winjeet you can add everything to steamthe only reason you wouldn't want one is if you're a consolecuck or if you have a valve derangement syndrome and get upset over having to add games to steam
>>738124239The first thing you do before things like these is go on the internet and see what people are using, and figure out that nobody, not here, not there, not anywhere, uses ubuntu studio.Often linux users get this "but you always recommend different distros and it's too overwhelming, choice paralysis" but there really are like maybe 4 or 5 recommendations and everything outside of that is "you're on your own" because you really haven't done enough research. It's the LTT issue, where the faggot goes "well you see, I'm gonna try this thing that hasn't been popular in years, people actually dislike, and it's in a transitioning process of sorts where it's not really all that stable to use, instead of what everyone's telling me to use, and if it doesn't work, linux doesn't work"
>>738124487>Ok, let's see the alternative.Same batteryTMR sticks 2 more buttons than steam controllerbetter ergonomicsnear 100g lighter because no retarded trackpads that are basically only for console gamers navigating big picture mode on the couchShould have better latencyDoesn't need Steam runningDoesn't need any software to be running in the background for the controller to work at allCompatible with androidCompatible with XboxHas mechanical switches for pad and triggers (the steam crap does not)It's depending on your region anywhere between $10 to $20 cheaper than Steam controller
>>738124620arch, cachy, and ubuntu studio are genuinely the 3 top recs right now for audio work
>>738124402>you DON'T PIRATE GAMES AND EXCLUSIVELY BUY GAMES ON STEAM
>>738124740Not plug and play controllerI want my controller to work with any PC games supporting one out of the box
