how old were you when you grew up and realized this game is just as good as VII and even slightly better, the best FF, the best jrpg and one of the most ambitious, beautiful and comfy games ever made?
It's in the top 3 JRPGs of all time for sureThe last remnant and natural doctrine are slightly better
>>738122578I think it had some good ideas, only really hurt by the fact that there's no reason to do anything but junction your best magic into Strength and unga bunga everything to death. The story was fine, even if it was a bit all over the place and unfocused at points. Ironically, I'd probably say the game feels like it ran out of budget halfway through development and they had to rush to wrap everything up. I'd personally peg it at "Very good, but not great. "
You know the people who have lost their whole lives demanding that the entire world apologise and admit FFVIII, XIII or even XV were good? And do so every day? VIIR fans are going to end up the same way. They can't just enjoy it, they spend every waking moment upset that other people don't like it and will never ever be at peace.
>>738122640impressively bad taste
OP IS A FAGGOTTHIS GAME SUCKS
>>738122898>Ironically, I'd probably say the game feels like it ran out of budget halfway through development and they had to rush to wrap everything up.what the fuck is ironic about any of that? Im so sick of niggers just using this word whenever they feel like it, it has a meaning.
>>738122578both are just mindless cutscene slops that would be better off as novels or anime.
>>738122898>The story was fine, even if it was a bit all over the place and unfocused at points. The entire plot falls apart after disc 1 finishes, devolving into time travel, amnesia, and deus ex machina wars. Squall's dialogue is horrendously mistranslated to make him into a sulky emo bitch in English. The fuck do you mean the story was fine?
>>738122578I remember making a let's play back a decade ago to dunk on my friend who said he loved this game as a kid. I showed him all the ways to just ignore fights and break the game. It has some good parts like triple triad. But, the game incentives you to not kill things. It wants you not to use magic at any point. The story doesn't make any sense.
>>738122578Outstanding soundtrack. The music of FFVI, VII, and VIII was peak Uematsu.
>>738122578I liked it as a kid too. But I never liked it better than VII.
>>738123116Triple Triad was fun, but yeah it was way too easy to play it for about 2 hours and then leave for the first mission was almost end game stats without actually fighting a single enemy.
>Fisherman's Horizon
>>738122578People tend to forget but FFVIII was bigger than VII in europe.
>>738122578I wonder who ended up winning that Toyota Echo.
>>738123213>NOOO WHY DID THE GAME FORCE ME TO GRIND AP TO UNLOCK CARD REFINE, PLAY TRIPLE TRIAD FOR HOURS AND THEN JUNCTION ALL OF THESE OP SPELLS BEFORE THE FIRST MISSION!!!if only there was some way to avoid this and just play the game normally.
>>738123358Actually crazy that I recognize this post I am not going to check how many times this exact post was written, but I would have to conclude that it is a bot post.
>the dollet missionFucking KINO. FF7 could never.
>>738123698FF8 is peak, set piece Final Fantasy.
>>738122578a remake would make it perfect since Ultimecia didn't have any character development.
>>738122578Characters are worse, combat is worse, story is worse (and borderline nonsensical), worldbuilding is worse, antagonist is worse.It had better graphics and an (arguably) better soundtrack. That's pretty much it.
>>738122578the beginning of the game is one of the most boring intro sequences ive ever played.
>>738122578>level scalinginto the trash it goes
>>738122578whatever
>>738122578It's always been in the top 3 for me.
>>738122990impressive how you could fit all those cocks in your mouth
>>738122578FF8 has the worst cast of any Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy 4,6,7,9,10,12 all had characters of different races and backgrounds. Final Fantasy 8 has a bunch of autistic teenagers who all grew up in the same orphanage and only hides this plot point for most of the cause amnesia or some shit.
>>738123215The orchestra version of FH theme is pure kino
>>738124887And yet it has the most unique soulful looking locations and style of any JRPG.
7 has better set pieces than 8.Also more than any other FF games desu.
Have people (mostly notmalfags) realized that Cloud/Squall were never “emo” or “edgelords” but just shy and awkward dorks? Or are they too mentally stunted to read dialogue and play the game?
>>738126232Those "people" watched Advent Children and watched lets plays of kingdom hearts. They have never played FFVII or FFVIII and never will.
>>738126232>>738126389Cloud was an autistic emo since childhood though.Advent Children is just therapized Cloud stripped of his tough guy persona and struck by survivor guilt.
>>738126545You saw AC before you played FFVII, if you played it at all.>survivor guiltlmao
>>738126774there is nothing wrong with survivor guilt.
>>738122578all it needed was a normal leveling/progression system
>>738126774Played VII entirely first, AC was an afterthought since it showed up before I finished the game and so I barely cared about it at all that I forgot what it was all about when it first appeared on TV.
>No enemy level scaling>Can only draw magic from normal battles and difficult to reach draw points >Magic that you draw from enemies is locked behind the average level of your party, incentivizing you to grind a bit in each area>Maybe only specific characters can draw some specific magic, incentivizing you to put them on your team when needed>Bosses still let you draw summons, but you can only draw them when the boss is low health>The max level of your characters is capped by your seed rank, incentivizing you to do side stuffThey could have done so much.
Not as good as FF15, the best game in the series
>>738127262Hi, Barry. Did a dingo eat your baby?
>>738127283What an unhinged thing to say
ranking ff games is pointless because they are all different games in tone and themes, even the battle systems are variedI'd still say FFVII is the most unique out of them
>>738122578I'm 40 and it hasn't happened yet. Because it's shit.>>738124582>>738122640>>738127117Pic related.
>>738127356Picrel.>>738127426You're a bitch. I bet you get slapped a lot.
>>738125075It does not look like that in game
>>738127117Get pragmata off this list
>>738127532Fixed.
>>738127487It literally does. The game has static images as the background. This was common tech during ps1 era
>>738127908>ps1Nobody called it that back then. It was called the Sega System.
>>738123020Because it siphoned money from the game where this shit actually verifiably happened?
Can we just accept that XV was the worst game and Tabata deserves to be homeless?
>>738129086>XV the worstIt's a masterpiece compared to the steaming turd that's 16
>>73812922416 at least didn't have Tabata's involvement or some shitty cover of "Stand by Me."
Is there a more weaponised autistism theory than R=U?
>>738129628R=U=D=1=2=C=4=A=B=J
>>738128034actually peezone
>>738122578Absolutely not literally the only thing it possibly wins in is music. The story is fun as a roller coaster but is ultimately a complete clusterfuck with the romance being the absolute worst, Rinoa is terrible and only possibly somewhat salvageable by the Ultimecia shit which is just a theory at best anyway. The gameplay is so dumb you can just pretty much ignore it, VII is easy but even it is hard as fuck compared to VIII where you can literally force no encounters and you can also do pretty much infinite limit spam. The final dungeon and boss are cool, the environments are pretty cool, the time shit with Laguna is pretty cool and the time compression too but that’s pretty much it. Pretty much the production values, art design and music are really good but that’s par for the course when it comes to old FF.
>>738122578The only two things it has going for it are the admittedly excellent soundtrack and the Triple Triad mini game. (which is the only mini game in the entire game)Everything else is technically a step forward but a step backwards also from FFVII's quality personally. The plot is bonkers, the world makes less sense than brothel at an orphanage, half of the party members fade into the background as the story unravels, the true plot of the world's story is told through NPC dialogue you can miss, no one gives a shit about the Lunar Cry despite being the most horrifying thing you could possibly imagine, Seifer is a pitifully pathetic rival who just comes off as just an asshole with zero direction, the central antagonist is a last minute off-screen influence that has so little presence the entire community for the game has to discuss theories about her to make sense of the character, the Draw and Junction systems are retarded placing so much emphasis on stat building over expending magic, the GF's are a huge awkward course correction to the game's Junction system by making them the true endgame and the general combat game play is just everything that came before with cinematic camera angles and trigger functions on timing that many other games and have and gone and have simply done better in comparison.Its a good game that is still very much filled with flaws.Underappreciated but i consider the environment design for FFVIII to be something no one ever talks about. I think the level mapping and exploration of towns and cities are pretty great.
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>>738122578as good? its superior in every wayplus the fact that when you first played it you were a little bit younger/same age then the characters and thus could identify with loner squall a lot more
>>738129976>a step backwards also from FFVII's quality personally
>>738129976Nah ff8 upped the quality of literally everything from full sized characters to fmv quality music setpieces and story, yes i know about the last half of cd4 but every FF falls apart at that point
>>738129976The way you can like the game but still talk so openly about its flaws without feeling insecure about it is impressive. I don't know how you do it.
>>738123116>I engaged with it in bad faith to illustrate how terrible it is and then false-positived myself into my own biases! Because how dare my friend love something with flaws!You sound like a great friend, anon.>the game incentives you to not kill thingsThe word is 'incentivizes', but I'm not going to call you brown for being fucking stupid--and no, it doesn't, you're rewarded for doing battle. It's just that the rewards for properly junctioning scale better in most cases. But maybe you enjoy having to grind a ton in JRPGs or some shit and love doing the random encounters.>It wants you not to use magic at any pointExcept you're rewarded massively for both casting magic and junctioning it to your characters, dumbass. You may think these things are at odds with each other but you'll always be able to have a stock of more magic than you could junction at all points of the game. Before you insist that you wouldn't be able to cast the most powerful magic that you've instead junctioned, that's the point, you absolute knuckle-dragger.>The story doesn't make any senseOh, I see, you're also so stupid as to be illiterate. In this world, humans can't use magic. Historically, they have been at war with each other as nations rally behind and against Sorceresses who can use magic. The story is about your generation, who benefit from the discovery of using Guardian Forces to use Paramagic, and who seek to end the Sorceress Wars. You play as orphans from the previous Sorceress War, who have attended a special university to cultivate them into SeeDs, a counter-Sorceress special operations military force. Throughout the adventure, you discover more about the Sorceresses in the past and the future and eventually you must defeat the future sorceress who has been manipulating events. You do. Good end. Wow. Incredibly nonsensical story. It absolutely has pacing issues and other problems but it's only nonsense if you weren't paying attention or are retarded.
>>738123432Eeech, even just turning the fish into 100 Waters and putting those on STR is enough to trivialize everything for a good while, especially if you're abusing the limit break system. That said, the limit break abuse is something that average players don't really figure out.
>>738122578I've liked 8 since it was releasedbut the wrong direction of the assassination attempt still bugs me
>>738127236>genuinely terrible ideasWow, your idea for a game sucks.I sure would love to be fucked out of getting summons because I happened to hit a boss too hard.I'd love a game that was intentionally grindy.No, please, make the magic system MORE of a pain in the ass to use.Anon, if you want to 'fix' FF8's systems, the trick is to lean into them :>Draw : Stock is removed from the game; Draw : Cast is always more powerful than casting a spell naturally, battles are more significantly designed around the Draw pool.>Every character can only slot in three total Command actions with one being forced--Quistis always has Item, Selphie always has Magic, Squall always has Attack, etc. The character's forced Action is enhanced in various ways that get better throughout the game. Quistis gets better utility out of items, eventually double item or item without using stock. So on and so forth.
>>738122578Still a kid when it released. The big hate wave ff8 got on it's release came years after, only after Spoony's review. Which itself garnered over a million views (it was a lot back then), and practically by that weeks end it became popular to throw shit at the game as everybody inherited his takes.
>>738132174While that was a big factor, there were a lot of people whose first exposure to FF was FF7, and were expecting a direct sequel. FF8 was so different that they couldn't accept it.
>>738129976>half of the party members fade into the background as the story unravelsHalf? Who do you think remains relevant besides Squall and Rinoa? Zell?
>>738131069Really, ff8 is incredibly easy to trivialize. Triple Triad is hands down the lowest effort way to do it, but drawing lots of stuff can still do the job perfectly well, even if it's a bit tedious compared to playing children's card games.
>>738132174a youtuber can't create hate out of nowhere. arin didn't make anyone hate OOT, they just said he was wrong."inherited takes" aren't a thing until you hear takes you disagree with being shared by more than one person. are you willing to admit to having any inherited takes yourself? if not, then they don't exist. or you're just another autist claiming everyone else is a sheep with fake opinions but somehow you are absolutely pure and also always correct.
>>738132174in reality, the game filtered too many people, and as usual, bad at game = game is bad. the same thing happened with the souls franchise, the only difference being that the souls game did have a very strong community of player ready to make fun of everyone complaining about the game for the wrong reasons, FF8 didn't get this privilege.
