itt: characters who did nothing wrong
>>738125780Why did they make her so sympathetic? I kept seeing shit how she was actually super duper evil but compared to the 2 crazies and the doormat, she's the only reasonable one who aims for a better society.
>>738125914>she was actually super duper evilShe wasn't though. Her sum total of fuckups over the millennia are less than the average world leader today makes in a single decade.
>>738125914They wanted to see who would fall for Edelgard's lies despite the overwhelming evidence Rhea was in the right.
>>738125780She would literally be flawless if not for the whole trying to implant her mother's crest into newborns thing
>>738125914I think the intention was showing us what a dragon looks like DURING Dragon Degradation for the first time. We've only ever seen the aftereffects.If that was the intention, I'm not sure it was conveyed well.
>>738126193They were homunculi specifically created for that purpose and when it didn't work out she cared for them like her own children until they expired naturally. She only put it in Byleth because Sitri begged her to save him.
Yeah I don't really get what they had against Rhea. She was a benevolent leader who could have easily enslaved humanity but didn't, the only real criticism of her is that she wasn't enough of a tyrant and allowed her enemies to exist and grow stronger
>>738125780She's literally the main villain of the Saga. Everything that goes wrong is her fault and she's a manipulative whore.
>>738126475Wasn't she kinda ignore all the bad shit that were going on with the whole Crest system and the royalty?
I haven't play 3 Houses but is there a Revelation equivalent route in 3 House?
>>738126305gaiden already kinda did that, duma degenerated far enough to be used as a mindless war machine by his high priests, but mila was only a half-step behind and spent the past century ignoring the plights of her people, outside of a few moments of clarity.
>>738126917No. There is no Golden happiness route.Golden Deer is probably the MOST complete story, but still not complete.
>>738125780>literally changed history to cover up how humans killed themselves with nukes, drank the blood of other sentient species for power and started fascist dictatorships
>>738126514i wonder who could be behind this post
>>738127181Humans were the real monsters
>>738125780
We're supposed to believe that dragons are good but they won't even let us have nukes and nuke the world to extinction
>>738126475>Yeah I don't really get what they had against Rhea.BORN TO SCOURMAP IS A FUCK竜 龍 Rout 'em all 1989I am handaxe man410,757,864,530 DEAD DRAGONS
We love the pope here
>>738125780Pic unrelated.
>>738127670I want to FUCK the pope!
>>738126703>hey, we in faerghus are going to sece from the empire, because we disagree with being ruled by the emperor...>...and replace him with our own king!i mean yeah she could have killed every human except for one to solve the inequality problem, but that one human would still name himself king over a mountain of corpses
Humanity is in peril.
>>738126703That is the biggest criticism but it's also kind of a double edged one. With a hell of a lot of nuances. -Seiros scripture preaches against use of Crests to establish nobility- but then the Church of Seiros also doesn't impede on the autonomy of any of the nations nor put it's foot down for use of nobility. In fact, it seems to tacitly endorse nobility by policing the use of the Hero's Relics- Then again the church kind of has to police use of the Hero's Relics since attempting to use one without having a Crest will turn you into a monster and this isn't public knowledge. Since that would imply the Relics aren't holy instruments of god but cursed weapons bound to a dead race- therefore nobility gets to continue to exist because the Rhea is kind of boxed in by her own lies- but then again these lies are the only thing protecting the remainder of her familyYou see what I mean? Rhea is really fucking complicated. In a good way though, I really like her character but the tribalism surrounding this game makes it difficult to discuss her
>>738127181Oh let's not forget the reason the Agarthans attacked Sothis in the first place>In the land of Thinis, where the old gods are said to live, the False God has awakened. Its looming, heteromorphic vessel was resurrected to sink the world to the depths of the ocean. It will bring extinction to all children of men, and salvation to all beasts of the land, sky, and sea. For the children of men who spilled too much of the blood of life, it promises only cruel retribution.>For the children of men who spilled too much of the blood of life, it promises only cruel retribution.The original Agarthans were afraid Sothis was going to flood the world in retribution for all the people they killed. Rather than stop killing people or repent or literally any other decision than the one they chose, they decided to nuke Fodlan into a radioactive hellhole so badly that Sothis put herself in a coma trying to fix it
>>738125780I married her as female Byleth. Beautiful dyke love
>>738129497So the agarthans saved humanity from an evil god?
>>738131310Only the ones who have personally killed another sentient being.Which is all of them.
I love Rhea
>>738127795>>738127670No you don't.You think you do, but you don't.
>>738134871Now tell me the downsides.
>>738134871 holy fuck I cannot believe someone saved this
>>738125780>itt: characters who did nothing wrong
>>738125780She didn't sit on my face though
>>7381340503 Houses would be so much better if Rhea was Byleth's blood mother and she was recruitable and had a romance route.
>>738125780he was literally 100% correct and was only trying to prevent the complete annihilation of the world by the only means available to him
>>738125780Pic unrelated.Rhea was a stupid cunt that let Fodlan go to shit because of her obsession with her mother.
>>738137049I mean yeah but also his plan would've ended in the genocide of every living thing on Bionis
nostank deniers still can't explain this
>>738134871Seteth will lose his hairline from the stress of having 50 whelps scampering around the monasteryI wonder how long it would take for Rhea to get addicted to giving birth
>>738138258The problem with Nosferatu is that it's not Horse Spirit.
Has anybody here played the Dark Deity games? And if so are they worth getting into?
>>738138954DD2 is a 7/10 game.
>>738138258capped magic without any dust. probably should have fed camilla one or two
>>738125780>Didn't wipe out the Slitherers>Let them manipulate Fodlan throughout the millenia without issueRhea stopping at Nemesis and not going after his benefactors is easily the dumbest decision of her life. Second one was killing all of the Elites, who didn't really know where their crests and relics came from, or why Seiros hated them so much, though i think her trust issues would get in the way. Everything else she did was more or less ok and CF Rhea was having a mental breakdown.
>>738139810>doors are mounted units>life and death doesn't work on themgay and retarded
>>738125780She literally burn her own people in one of the endings. She's a dragon so she's evil. tha'ts how FE goes.
>>738125780rhea actually did nothing wrong but edeltards spew so much garbage that people say "uh actually she was INTENDED to be evil but they failed" even though SS was the first route and CF was a late addition after people wanted to fuck the villain empress
>>738125914Was she? She had that whole TAKE THE CHILDREN TO WITNESS THE MURDER OF THOSE WHO OPPOSE ME! THEY MUST LEARN WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE GODDESS! And then you find out later that the Goddess never actually wanted to be worshipped and opposed the religion and that Rhea just invokes her name to enforce her 'benevolent' authoritarianism. She isn't as Evil as Edelgard, but she's still way more evil than Dimitri or Claude.Basically the moral of 3H was women should never be in charge.
>>738138954DD1 is fun ONLY if you like cheesing things with boosters because you can buy like 5 per mission and have 250*2 attack previews by the end
>>738125914>I kept seeing shit how she was actually super duper evilstop reading posts written by trannies
>>738140207And in the Church ending she goes full schizo which also causes the ENTIRE upper echelon of the church to turn into monsters too, since they were all given her blood. The entire church is on a timer connected to a mentally ill dragon who is going to go insane sooner or later and take the entire faith with it. If Fodlan doesn't remove the church from power then its central authority will eventually collapse into demons.Honestly surprised it doesn't get talked about more how Rhea is going to nuke everyone into monsters when her mind eventually goes. Her own route had her as the final boss because her own mother cursed her. She may not be evil, but she is a terrible leader.
>>738140165vantage chads. watch this
>>738140897i was too focused on the enemies in the room i forgot about the enemies from the stairs, but if everyone else runs away i think i can still just kill them with kaze
>>738141071here's what the battle forecasts look like
>>738136629reddit moment
>>7381366294chan moment
>>7381366294trannel dog
>>738136828Messed up the formatting>3 Houses would be so much better if Rhea was Byleth's blood motherI've seen people bringing up that idea before. Would make for a interesting story and a nice spin on FE mom/dad trope. Rhea's behaviour toward Byleth would be completely recotextualized in rather heartwrenching way. >genocide victim dragon woman gets revenge upon the dude who killed her people and her mother and made weapons out of them>allowing herself to move on after, she eventually finds love after like 500 years and a complete change of identity>expects a child>the child is born dead>in her desperation to salvage something, anything, she implants her dead mom's heart in the baby>The dad vanishes and takes the baby with him>20 years later she finds him and her grown offspring>But she has no way of knowing whether that person is truly her child or just her mom in her child's body>A choice between the future or the past, and the only to know for sure is having Byleth sit on on the throne>Byleth can possibly choose Edelgard and turn against their mother right after that.>and she was recruitableJust keep her around for Silver Snow>and had a romance routeWhat. During my first playthrough i genuinely got "far from friendly breakup" vibes from her and Jeralt.
Kill yourselves diarRhea trannies>Inb4 you queers think I'm pro edelturdBoth are dogshit btw
>>738142981shut up claude
>>738125780She didn't have ungodly amounts of steamy hot sex with me. That's pretty damn wrong
Octopath Traveler 0
>>738140207>She's a dragon so she's evil. tha'ts how FE goes.FE Dragons are 90% good and even the ones that go evil usually did so in response to humanity being evil. Was the case even in FE1(Medeus was originally benevolent and turned malevolent later)
>>738141958>>738142185I mean, you can romance Rhea, hell she proposes to you as isBut people want sex with mama romance, which is basedMikoto should've been romanceable too
>>738144002I did romance Rhea.
>>738125914She's very pathetic and kind of a fuckup, but ultimately too humanized to really write her off as just being crazy or evil. She's at worst basically just a glorified teenager who never got over mommy dying, and frankly in that regard she could have done a hell of a lot worse.
>>738145213your post made me think of junko for some reasonif they had a junko expy in FW it'd be considered a throwback
>>738145286I'm assuming you mean Touhou Junko? If so: Junko is genuinly too far gone. She's made out of pure malice. Letting go of her hatred would basically just mean dying.
>>738145819no I meant the Ultimate Despair Junko
>>738146000Oh.Never played those games. Though I do know the character just from her design, amusingly.
mangs just cleared BBD with no deaths
>>738146210children can do that as GBA was designed for subhuman toddlers
Just posting Annette.
>>738146569milkmaid annette and timeskip annette are my girlacademy annette is a little too childlike
>>738146210>ecelebwho cares
>>738145213Well her biggest problem is that she doesn't see herself as lord and master of Fodlan, she sees herself as a stand in for her mother, who in her eyes is the lord and master of Fodlan. And it causes her to sweep some extremely important shit under the rug with the belief that her mother will just take care of it after her resurrection. For example: After the Tragedy of Duscur and the death of King Lambert, half the Lords of Faerghus were wondering who could've possibly masterminded this whole operation. I say half because while the Eastern lords were confused and angry, the western lords actually did mastermind the death of Lambert. Anyway as civil war was brewing Cassandra, later renamed to Catherine, pointed at Christope Gaspard as the mastermind. But there's a slight problem with that: CHRISTOPHE WAS IN JAIL! He was already serving time for attempting to kill Rhea. So Cassandra decided to just slap that charge on him too. This accusation pissed off Lonato Gaspard so much that he pointed to Cassandra as the mastermind. And Lonato had so much clout in Faerghus that most of the country believed him, causing Cassandra to flee to Garreg Mach for sanctuary, be redubbed as Catherine, and knighted by the Church. An act so offensive that it turned the previously pious Lonato into an enemy of the church.Now here's the problem: Rhea knows full well this story is horseshit. There's no way in Hell Christophe convinced Duscur to kill King Lambert and told them how to ambush his retinue from jail. Even if the goal was to just stop civil war, she has to know the actual culprits were still out there. Which, surprise, it was the Agarthans continuing the shadow war against her and her kin. But Rhea would rather just sweep it under the rug. War was avoided. So just go back to what she was doing.
>>738125914Most people picked the edelgard route instead of the others because it has a female leader. That's literally it.And most of the people that picked that route are communist faggots that see nothing wrong with it, so you have it. It's the worst written route but consumers don't care (main route is blue lions and it shows because all missions early game have relation with blue lions students) the game should have been one single route instead of this wanna be persona bullshit, the game is rushed and suffers from having 4 routes.Rhea is the best, did nothing wrong and edelgard is retarded
She should have been Silver Snow's lord btw
>>738147703Pretty much the most common criticism for Silver Snow is Rhea not getting more to do.
>>738125780The things I remember about 3 houses areRegretting siding with Edelgard. I picked her before I learned anything about the game because I am a sucker for white hair. But as the game went on she just kinda annoyed me. Pope waifu was cooler.Really enjoying killing all the other students at the end game. I didn't know it was possible to recruit people during the game and I made no attempts to keep them alive so I killed everyone. It was great.Reloading the most because of the fucking fishing. My autism REFUSED to not get perfect fishing every day for experience gains.I should play it again and collect all the waifus.
>>738147273I liked Edelgard's route I just hate the copout of "We beat the Molemen offscreen". Like, they finally got everything they wanted and their plan afterwards was... uh... just sit around and wait for Edelgard to kill them?
>>738147273Uh, but didn't you know? 4 shitty chopped up, below average stories makes your game "flawed but ambitious." 1 cohesive good vs. evil plot is faggot unc shit lol, get outta here with that crap.
>>738147893Honestly, I think they could have managed 2-3. 4 just was complete overkill.
>>738147842It gets dumber because after the Ashen Wolves DLC dropped you see KT trying to fill in a couple plotholes. For example: in non-CF routes there's a thief in Abyss that'll tell you Edelgard is intentionally keeping Rhea alive as a buffer against the Slitherers. More than they hate surface dwellers, the Agarthans fear the last Naabatean and so Edelgard keeps her on a leash to force them to behave until the war is won. In CF Rhea is free and in Faerghus but it's fine because she still serves the same purpose, the Agarthans won't flip as long as Rhea lives. But in CF's ending Rhea is dead. The Fell Star is gone. All of their greatest enemies are in one place, Fhirdiad. And Fhirdiad isn't protected by Sothis's shield like Garreg Mach is. So why not blow up Edelgard right there? Why not blow up Enbarr? It's not like Thales has any compunctions about using nukes, he blew up Arianrhod just to prove a point.
>>738147893"Cohesive" is a bit excessive. I don't even hate Engage's plot but they were winging it in a lot of areas
>>738148279Wtf? Who said anything about Engage?
Excellent fire emblem lost his lunatic reverse ironman on chapter 14
>>738148418Fair play. But the biggest defense for it at the time was "it's just a simple good vs evil plot." And it is. But there's still a lot going on with that title
Rhea owes me milk
>>738125780Great character, shame they had to shoehorn an Edelgard Route in the game and completely forced the whole city burning thing. Apparently she was supposed to be playable at some point too.Edelgard would have also been more interesting as a character if she didn't have a route.
>>738126917No.Edelgard's route is flat out non canonDimitri's route is your bog standard FE story and he only coincidentally eradicated *most of the true antagonists by chanceClaude's route covers the lore and true antagonists, but feels like it needs to happen in conjunction with Dimitri's.Church route is just Claude's with less closuresIdeally you'd want a Church route that wraps up like Claude's but also has Dimitri's campaign against Edelgard.
>>738125780>murders a king in his own court in front of everyone>nobody even mourns him>goes on to decimate all of eternity>player has a kid with herDid literally nothing wrong.
>>738148207It's such an obvious unfinished route hard carried just by Rhea going off the deep end being so fun and it being kind of cool that you get to basically play the villain. >So why not blow up Edelgard right there? Honestly, it would have made a lot of sense.>Try to blow up Edelgard the moment Rhea is dead>It fails >They instead claim she was responsible for the destruction of both Fhirdiad and Arianrhod and it basically turns her into a pariah.>Thales takes over the Empire (Which now rules everything). >Edelgard has a mental breakdown realizing just how much she was played (Possibly even mirroring Rhea).>Second half of the story is trying to take back the Empire and fix Edelgard's mental state to keep her from going full crazy. Hell, they could even give you a bad ending if you pick certain choices (Like killing Claude).
>>738148878>Edelgard's route is flat out non canonAll but one of the routes are non canon by default.
>design Pope>make her literally a sex goddessWhy wouldn't I support the church?
>>738148445you asshole i wasn't caught up on the streams yet
>>738149243Lust is a sin and so is idolatry
>>738149243Because instead of giving you herself, she'd encourage you to mating press one of her demoted nun girls with heavy tits and giant hips.
>>738126703It existed before the church did, it started with the elites, and the second she tries to rock the boat they could kick her shit in. The church pales in comparison to any of the three nations.
>>738126475>benevolent leader>could have easily enslaved humanity Hmmmm
>>738126703She didn't ignore it as much as she didn't really go out of her way to fix it.
>>738149359Only an Imp would say no to Mercy.Better bed than red.
>>738149456>but didn't
>>738140476>more evil than Dimitrilolno, Dimitri is one of the worst. he lets millions die purely for the sake of his pride in CF, and in AM he needs literally god to make him chill out and stop killing random people.
>>738140476>She had that whole TAKE THE CHILDREN TO WITNESS THE MURDER OF THOSE WHO OPPOSE ME!I mean, that is probably the worst thing she did outside of blocking technological progress. And even then, they are at a officer academy. Obviously they were going to have to kill eventually.
>>738149823So? Why even give her the chance to do it? insanely cucked mindset
>>738125914it's a huge flaw in the game's writing where they want to have their cake and eat it too. They want you to be suspicious of Rhea and to think she might be morally grey (read interesting) but then the reveal is that she's morally spotless and there's no actual dilemma about which of the "two evils" is worse. Fates did the same thing, a lot of vidya writers just can't seem to commit to their premise and always have to leave a "pure good guys" route for the moralfag players.
Rhea simps are incredibly disgusting subhumans
I'd fuck Rhea.
>>738149995Nobody gave her anything. She won the War of Heroes. She very well could have annihilated everyone allied with Nemesis and left it at that. But she didn't. She spared the children and those who dropped their swords with only the 10 Elites being hunted to their deaths.
>>738150129Where the fuck is her green bush peeking out of her panties
>>738150186>she won she's so epic xDDumb simp
>>738150262Lizards don't have body hair.Neither do girls with crests, since they're part lizard.
mangs lost louise and pent that goes with her
>>738149996> the reveal is that she's morally spotlessNo? If anything it mostly just shows that the problems run way deeper and killing her won't solve anything. Claude's entire arc is basically him realizing "Well, shit, despite all of her flaws she really isn't the main issue". Not "She did nothing wrong".
>>738150349in all honesty does anyone believe he will let his run die? like surely he is probably rigging the game is some way behind the scenes, there is no way he'll restart the entire ironman if he dies to fe12 or conquest or whatever else
>dude Louise is so good against Luna Druids bro>*faces 1 (one) Luna Druid*>*immediately dies*
>>738150430Rhetards don't actually care about the plot. They play the game onehanded so there won't be hesitation once they reach the stills/cutscenes with Rhea in them. Just look at ther rest of the thread for proof.
>>738148445someone needs to tell him about the cheese strat
>>738150601It's funny because Rhea fags and Edelgard fags are the exact same in that regard.
Will IS ever listen to the westerners and get rid of characters like Nowi for sexualizing child-like characters?
>>738150725They kind of already did though.The Nowi equivalent in Three Houses is way less sexualized despite her getting bred like mad in a lot of the endings.
>>738150470He already cheated multiple times in this "challenge" alone.
>>738150641Nah. Start a thread with Edelgard as the OP and you'll see arguments surrounding the actual plot of the game and maybe some memes and builds. Rhea threads are basically goonerbait threads 100% of the time. The latter is the cancer that's killing FE discussions here.
>>738150470>>738150759Uh proof besides speculation?
>>738150809Hmmm, fair? Though I must admit Edelgard threads that aren't just "Discuss this character" threads are pretty rare. I guess she's just lacking in sex appeal.
>>738150498Light affinity is usually one of the best, but it does nothing for Luna druids. Just longbow or brave them, you should never let them attack you.
>>738150470He literally practices out of stream, using the same file. His Roy had 2 losses when finishing FE6. That goes completelly against the spirit of an Ironman.
>>738125780i replayed 3HRT recently and i realized edeltards were right. it doesn't matter if she was fed jewish lies about the church or her misguided motivations, what matters is she acted. everyone agreed fodlan was FUBAR but nobody had the balls to start some shit except edeltard.
>>738151021Problem with Edelgard is that she helped the one side that should be kept as far away from power as possible into power.
FalseDragons have bushes and Rheas is massive and very fluffy and gives +40 avo
>>738125914Because she's not evil, she's supposed to be your mentor and one of the game's focuses is precisely her passing the baton down to you
>>738150869>Marth dodging a deadly attack off stream, trust me bro>"QoL" cheats>Losses on characters in FE6
>>738151140But that side is shown to be incredibly incompetent and is killed offscreen in her own route
>>738151413That's just bad writing, sorry.
>>738129182The thing a lot of people seem to miss is that the church of Seiros is, well, a church. It's not a form of government properly, it has no real say as to how any nations uses it's nobility.The actual elephant in the room no one likes to adress is that nobility in Fire Emblem is objective.Here in our real world nobility is subjective. A "noble" is the same human being as a "commoner". Shits the same, bleeds the same, eats the same, thinks with the same brain, etc. the only real difference is birth status, wealth and eductation. In many games of Fire Emblem nobility is objective. In more than one world nobles have and inherit blood from dragons that give them super powers. This includes super strength, super speed, super intelligence and/or the ability to weild items that grant these statistics.So in 3H if you remove nobility it won't change a damn because there's no real equality of opportunity.
>>738151140>she helped the one side that should be kept as far away from power as possible into power.They were already running the empire and had firmly implanted themselves in the Empire's political system. She didn't really have a choice.
>>738151380>replayed all of fe1 after that in less than 24 hours>checking the support growth so he doesnt waste viewers time while support grinding after chapters, has no effect on the gameplay of the chapters themselves>uhhh
>>738138258I meancoolbut I can clear that without turtling on the corner
>>738151567>A 10% increase of combat arts damagePlease explain to me how that translates to being good at running a country.Like, there's a reason why we don't decide who is in charge by who is the best at boxing.
>>738146569
>>738151721and not pass around the +4 luck azura pair up between my 4 profiteer units like the cheap slut she is? and also just let the lucky 7 heroes have their bonuses? sounds kinda gay. I'd rather sacrifice a chapter 10 pegasus.
>>738146569Felix's wife
>>738151731>A 10% increase of combat arts damageI meant in lore. Like, they made a point to tell you and show you how STRONG Dimitri is thanks to his crest. And in the case of Edelgard, the problem is more the transition from nobility to meritocracy. Who do you think currently knows what's best to run a country, if not the people already doing so? There's a reason why in the endings of CF none of the noble characters actually lost their positions, because equality there's no real equality of opportunity. It's just changing the name of an existing government to pat yourself in the back and claim you did something.In our real life we have today is closer to a meritocracy and wouldn't you know that the rich kids who go to the prestigious schools, pay for the highest educations and are taught in house the values needed to keep their position are the ones who stay at the top.
>>738152117why are you gay
>>738149995do you not know what benevolent means? the fact that she could and didn't makes her benevolent.
To her credit, awakening the crystals did actually make the world better for a bit...
>>738138258Why would you not get trample if you're doing this
>>738138258>NosTank>no Vantageuh-oh
>>738152201lying airy
>>738151021>fodlan was FUBARThe continent was peaceful and the commoners were doing fine. Every issue presented in the story is related to how nobles are degenerate warmongers obsessed with crests. That's more of a reason to justify Rhea being more aggressive in her crackdowns than siding with some retarded whore being fed bullshit by the obviously evil mole people.
>>738150129
>>738149359I married Mercedes and gave permanently depressed blue to Dimitri so they would be depressed together.It felt like a true happy ending
>>738152134>I meant in lore.Even in lore they just make you better at punching something. In a meritocratic society Dimitri would be at best on the frontline as a vanguard, not even like a actual general or strategist. >Who do you think currently knows what's best to run a country, if not the people already doing so?Going by actual history: The middle class. >There's a reason why in the endings of CF none of the noble characters actually lost their positions, because equality there's no real equality of opportunity. A lot of the noble characters do actually lose their position, even some of the Imperial ones. . Probably the one real exception being Bernadetta, and even then if she marries it's typically basically implied her husband does 99% of the actual work. >our real life we have today is closer to a meritocracy and wouldn't you know that the rich kids who go to the prestigious schoolsLike 99% of new wealth people today are just weird autistic middle class kids who get into tech. The only place where you genuinly see zero movement is the absolute top and even then most of them don't get involved in direct governance.
>>738151980you can just buy them from the character shop, no?
>>738152383>Not assisted_exposure of the little one to show off her bunghole
>>738150601Yeah I dont give a shit.Edelgard is with the bad guys and got an entire village burned on her own free will and is willing to do some evil shit for a goal that the game doesn't even give a valid reason for her to do it.Rhea puts her life on the line for you twice for the sake of avoiding a massacre.I dont need to discuss any "actually" shit.All the 3 major characters have actual reasons for their actions built into the character, she doesn't.Hopes and Houses didn't convince me so don't need to discuss it.
All I know is that my Dimi has a big peenor and that I can indeed fix him
>>738152509I don't know what you mean, but you don't need to be a soldier, general or a strategist to be a lawmaker. To be a leader you need to know how to make decisions for the better future of the people under your rule, something Dimitri, Edelgard and Claude were taught since birth.>Going by actual history: The middle class.Are you certain of this? Because need I remind you that no one in the middle class who approaches the ruling class stays middle class. Living off taxpayer money is literally the most priviledged class in literally each and every country, culture across all time.I am genuinely curious: who do you have in mind?Also yeah many characters lose their title as "noble" but they themselves don't lose their charges or role as land owners. In fact most gain more influential title, which quite curious that the friends of the emperor happen to becomes the powerful people in her government. Nepotism truly makes hers a ruler with a modern minset.I have no idea why you involve new wealth, but a key trait of Nouveau Riche is that they're bound to lose it all because they DON'T know what to do with it. I am not talking about that.
>Recruit everyone except friends/rivals in 3 houses>Force them to fight each other on the battlefield
>>738153087>I don't know what you mean, Being able to punch things good doesn't inherently qualify you for being a lawmaker. Even if Dmitri is the most qualified person right now because of his education, if everybody was given a education at least somewhat comparable to his he would stop being the best choice. >Are you certain of this? Yes? That was in part the history of Europe. The nobility slowly declines in favor of the middle class, both when it comes to land ownership and military control. >but they themselves don't lose their charges or role as land ownersNo? Most of the time they just straight up give up the land as well. Felix becomes a mercenary. Lysithea sells her land to somebody more qualified and then fucks off to die. Linhardt becomes a bum. Mercedes and Hilda are the only two cases I can find where they MIGHT have kept their land despite changing their job.
>>738154041>Posts real historical figure>who isn't even a person
>>738152383Grok is too powerful. AI should not have access to this much power.
>>738148878Edelgard's route still strikes me as a real BAD end.Like after you kill Rhea, Byleth's hair goes back to blue, which could be a sign of you losing Sothis favor since you just killed her daughter. So now you're a normal human with no divine power to turn back time or anything.Then to make it worse the Slitherniggas are still around, and now there is nothing to stop them from using their nukes. The game kind of realizes how fucked Edelgard's empire is and just glosses over it and goes "then they fought the mole people and totally won haha..."
>>738154178Honestly, it feels less like a bad end and more like they just ran out of budget or time.
>>738153628>if everybody was given a education at least somewhat comparableBut that's the thing. You can't, this is an illusion. The best education is always gated by wealth, we have no other way around it. There's also no better education than your ambience at home, simply being the son of a successful lawmaker already puts you at a tremendous advantage.>That was in part the history of EuropeI think you have a very idealized version of the frech revolution. Just because they overthrew the monarchy doesn't exactly mean the regents that remained were middle class. Try and look into the actual people themselves, and not the movement from an ideological perspective.>Mercedes and Hilda are the only two cases I can find FerdinandConstanceBernadettaSylvainIngridMarianneAsheConstanceLysithea also only relinquised her title close to her death after working her due partYou didn't search hard enough, clearly
>>738152117Yes
>>738125914>>738125780The odd thing about Rhea is that I feel like her biggest failing was that she was actually too hands off with how Fodlan's nobility, and that things would have been better if she was actually an authoritarian.
>trusting green women ever(lol
>wordswordswordswords3h threads are so shit
>>738155895hey I saw this on mangs stream
>>7381559023Hfags don't play FE
>>738155895I hate her for ruining best boy Roy with her subpar breast milk
3HRT troons hate silver snow and doing white clouds again
>>738155895>greens>pinks>blacksIs there any other hair color I should be wary of?
>>738143925> hitlerfu fans are so up her snatch they think dwagon is le bad in most of feWe needed to gatekeep harder.
>>738148878its baffling people neg Blue Lions route when Dimitri literally kills the head slitherin by coinkydink near the endgame.Every slither we meet is nigh-totally self-serving and spare no effort to aid their own cultists so any remaining molepeople are at best lv1 early game bandits who can't actually scheme or plan anything longterm.
>>738149826> dimitri is le bad because he didn't let his homeland get curbstomped spinelessly Edelgard is that you?> dimitri needs godEdelgard fails every route the godmunculus isnt fucking her
>>738152148This is a Fire Emblem thread. Three Houses no less
>>738143925>Die a Hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.Literally FE in general.
Can you see it?
>>738149826>he lets millions die purely for the sake of his pride in CF,You mean when edelgard allows arianrhod to be nuked without a civilian evacuation because she wanted to go out of her way to kill a woman with bigger tits than hers? That had nothing to do with dimitri.
>>738158794Every FE game needs a girl in some kind of white sheer/semi-transparent outfit. Off the top of my head, we have>Lena>Silque>Julia>Natasha>Leanne>Laura>Olivia>Azura>Rhea>Seidrbut I can't think of any examples for Thracia, Elibe, or Engage.
>>738149826We gonna pretend that Edelgard's bullshit didn't drive him into being a psycho?
>>738159153the boar...
>>738158964Or she using lies to frame the Church because not even her closest friends had a real reason to fight the war (Lets remember in CF the students follow Byleth, not her. Which in turn makes Byleth break character and deceive the students that trust him).
>>738154684>The best education is always gated by wealth, we have no other way around it.It's not about the best, it's about having some. You don't need the absolute best education to be in a position to obtain wealth.>I think you have a very idealized version of the frech revolutionNo? It's not idealized. Nor was it just the French revolution. It was a active process that wasn't completed until arguably the end of world war 2.>Just because they overthrew the monarchy doesn't exactly mean the regents that remained were middle clasMost of them fell outside the Nobility. Robespierre himself was largely middle class, and certainly part of the Bourgeoisie, just as a big example. Napoleon himself was a noble, but mostly from a backwater part of France with little to his name. As for the once you mentioned: Most of them generally show competence for ruling and the endings largely point that out. You can argue they had a unfair advantage, but that doesn't mean it's not meritocratic to qualify them for the position.
>>738159283*Wealth or a leadership position.
>>738149826>purely for the sake of his pride in CFWhat? He intentionally put himself between Edelgard and civilians. And he has to protect Rhea, because his royal legitimacy comes from her. Hopes even went into this.
Who else followed the canon route and married best girl Petra to become king of Brigid?
>canonfags
Could an AI beat a FE game?
>>738158794something is missing…
>>738160010People dumber than AI can beat them so sure
>>738158241Not all dragons. But somehow, always a dragon.
>>738160010They designed Awakening so that Nami Komuro could beat it.How could AI lose unless it just End Turns every turn?
>>738149826>he lets millions die purely for the sake of his pride in CFlmaoEdelgard started the fucking war out of her OWN pride, its all on her.
>>738159765Not me, but my wife Rhea did allow me to take several war prize concubines and Petra was definitely one of them.
>>738160473>in SS, Rhea's closest allies all turned into wyvern-things and died>she needs to replace them now>tells Byleth to take all the devout women like Marianne as new priestessesBased?
>Getting tired of Conquest Lunatic>Come across thishttps://gamebanana.com/mods/356042Seems fun
>>738125780Bed breaking, baby making, leg locking, animalistic, passionate, sweaty SEX with Lady Rhea
>>738149826>in AM he needs literally god to make him chill out and stop killing random peopleAre we counting invaders and bandits as "random people" now?
>>738160868It's also him ignoring how every single route needs god to carry that route.
>>738160992how are students supposed to concentrate when their teacher dresses like that?
>>738125780She did a lot wrong, but so did everyone in Three Houses, which was the tragic point. She basically was long since on the brink of going totally insane from her hellish childhood and having to hold everything together while lacking any reasonable education to know how to do so well, juggled with not wanting to govern humans in case that would oppress them while still not wanting them to end up repeating the Agarthans' and Nemesis' behavior. Obvious cracks in the modern era are focusing too much on occasionally spooking students into not fighting her church and the dismal angle for the cover story she wants to use regarding what a relic did to Sylvain's brother. She still clearly needed to change things or step down by then.
>>738160010Auto battle exists
>replaying verdant wind>dialogue option with claude is "do you hope rhea's dead" or something>+support for saying itWhat the fuck is his problem?
>>738161118Post-nut clarity.
>>738161296His backstory is that he came to Fodlan to find the Sword of the Creator and conquer the continent so that his dad would give him the Almyran throne.
>>738136629perrito 4chan
>>738160010An AI can't even beat Pokemon
>>738140054Seteth explains that they tried to see if Nemesis had any benefactors (or any surviving ones) and couldn't find them. It's after defeating Edelgard at Enbarr in Silver Snow.
He's cool and sexy.
>>738162354True!
>>738161810that particular AI is stupid. I remember years ago there was a bot that did Pokémon red/blue speedruns on twitch.
>>738162759I mean, tool-assisted speedruns have been a thing for a long time. But the question was whether an AI could do it. A bot handmade and dedicated to a specific task might be able to do well (e.g. a chess engine), but so far "artificial intelligence" is not actually intelligent enough to beat a game for 1st graders.
>>738162759>I remember years ago there was a bot that did Pokémon red/blue speedruns on twitch.That's literally just a TAS
>>738163224Navigation around Kanto is unironically more complex than any FE map. That's what keeps holding up Claude. I could easily see an AI beating FE1 since all it really has to do is seize with Marth.
>>738125780(top right)
Cutesythea
>>738148893>player has a kid with herhow does this work if the mc is female?
>>738125780Rhea did one thing wrong. She used too many lies when building the church, the war with Edelgard probably wouldn't have happened if she had been open about being an immortal dragon woman guiding humanity from the start.
>>738126016I side with Claude when I'm a dude. I side with Dimitri when I'm a woman. I will never play edelgards route.
>>738163634You think an AI can intuit odds & understand risk and resource management - something you essentially don't have to deal with in Pokemon? It might be able to move around a simple square map, but it has to keep the playable characters ALIVE - no heal potions. For tens of those maps.
>>738164483>when I'm a womanyou will NEVER be one of us. He is OURS
>>738146569>>738151898I love my wife, Annette. Even in a random thread.
>>738154723
>>738164441She also could have taken like 10 minutes to actually address all the problems the church caused by elevating crest users into a superior caste, banning technology, playing favourites and screwing over other nations to make her loyal nations stronger, and a ton of other stupid shit she did. She was a terrible leader, good intentions mean nothing.
>>738164578I could see it struggling with inventories and running out of weapons but FE1 enemies are fucking pathetic. I seriously doubt it would take that long for Marth to become essentially unkillable, even if he has to solo carry the run.
Off-topic and I don't know maybe because Engage is really fun but I want to know more about Sombron. I don't want him to have a some overly sympathetic backstory, but I am interested in seeing more of him.
>>738161296He's an idiot emulating the behavior of a mastermind.He doesn't care about the country, its history, or anyone in it.
>>738164298They made it work on god rules, so that female Kirans could also do it.But all the fanart is just Kiran deep-dicking Seidr. Not even futa stuff. Just heterosexual sex for the purpose of procreation.
>>738161296He's a sociopath.
>>738164578Basic math AIs can do easily yesClaude would probably be a turtler
>>738161296>>738165438>>738165613As time passes, Azure Moon becomes more objective and canon.
>>738165671It *might* be able to beat a simple game with all seize objectives like FE1, but there's no way it could do something like Engage, Conquest, or 3H - games where your decisions over a playthrough build on each other and influence the viability of the run. Something as simple as inheriting Canter on as many units as possible would filter the fuck out of it.I'm not sure it could ever prase that out - even though it provably makes Engage easier. More likely it would inherit skills at random or not at all. Imagine an AI wasting precious early SP on Build +X.
>>738166028It doesn’t need canter though. All those debates where someone goes “well actually I beat the game without x or y” is how Claude can win.
>>738165751the only thing that is canon is your retardation
>>738166253Anon, I don't think you're getting my argument. It's not so much that it can't identify the best skill in the game, it's that I'm positive it lacks a mechanism to parse utility and context at all.What exactly is supposed to indicate to it that Speed +X is a good inherit, and Build +X is a bad inherit? Or that not all units need Speed +X, or that an emblem like Lyn or Chrom might make Speed +X irrelevant? It's an unthinking machine. It would fail to meet basic thresholds. It would fuck up turn order and action economy horrifically. It would build awful, unusable units and get BTFO endlessly. It doesn't understand things that are trivially obvious to us.
>>738165359Why's he looking like that
>>738166732He saw his children getting along not killing each other
>>738166498The original argument never specified difficulty level; you don't need to be well built to best the easiest difficulty of nuFE
>>738166269kek based
It's funny reading these threads when 3H is the only non-remake FE I haven't played since SS. I'm always trying to piece together what the actual plot is, since there's so much shitflinging and disagreement on who was right and who was wrong.
>>738167024>can an AI beat ezmodo?Well that's just cope.I'm not even sure it could beat baby mode, though. I don't think people get how un-thinking "AI" really is. You can force Google's AI answer to hallucinate some nonsense with a simple loaded question.It literally has no concept of context, of future planning, no meta-level thinking to govern and direct its micro-decisions. How is it supposed to plan for likely future events (e.g. tough bosses) if all it can think about is surviving 1 or 2 turns into the future? I doubt it can even figure out that juggernauting is good in Fire Emblem, and that you should funnel exp into specific projects units in order to make them strong.
>>738167189Bro really had to reply to himself
>>738167261>two people online agree with each other?!>impossible!! it HAS to be a samefag!!!
>>738166269>>738167189>>738167315this is just sad
Sad like your schizophrenia!
>She creates the world's savior.Nothing wrong!
>>738152383Retarded, Rheas swimsuit changes from a sling bikini to a normal two piece Ai fucking sucks
>>738167237Most of the plot comes down to backstory since all reactions of each Lord are permutations from the same events that don't change. The War of Heroes, the Insurrection of the Seven, the Tragedy of Duscur, and the random appearance of Claude
>>738158794My mom would never wear a thong
>>738167237That’s the neat part: 3H is actually 4 separate narratives that people argue over for tribalism points
>>738163961Is that Emet-Selch
>>738167662Still sad.
>canon route>in 3HFucking morons
Bro really had to hop on a phone and samefag to himself, Sad
Echoes saved the series
>>738147264Didn't Christophe only try to kill the archbishop after the Tragedy of Duscur already occurred? He was picked for the convenient timing and so people wouldn't possibly take up his torch of blaming the archbishop for not inherently hating Duscur or something. What Cassandra was accused of wasn't clarified either, IIRC, so Lonato didn't say she was the tragedy's mastermind. If that was the accusation he made, Cassandra would probably have to have a much better disguise to still even be in public, let alone working on missions for the church and teaching students. No one from Faerghus would let their students go to Garreg Mach if the charge on Cassandra was outright masterminding the tragedy.
>>738164483Playing the baddies is fun though.
>>738168291>Didn't Christophe only try to kill the archbishop after the Tragedy of Duscur already occurred?No. Ashe x Catherine B says>Ashe: He was executed by the church for allegedly taking part in the Tragedy of Duscur. I know you were the one who turned him over. But this letter isn't about that. It's about a plot to assassinate Lady Rhea. If my brother's name is in here, that means this plot predates the Tragedy. So there was another plot against Lady Rhea in the past. And my brother was somehow involved.....>Ashe: I can't believe that my brother would try to assassinate Lady Rhea. But if he did, that means the church was lying about his involvement in the Tragedy of Duscur, doesn't it?>Catherine: "Lying" is a strong word. The world was in chaos, and the church did what it had to. If people had known about the threat to Lady Rhea's life, the panic would only have worsened.>Ashe: So you're saying everything in this letter is true.>Catherine: You can choose what to believe. All I know is, I let him die. And that's something I can never change. Now, if you'll excuse me.Ashe explicitly states that Christophe being imprisoned happened before the Tragedy of Duscur happened. Meaning he was in jail when King Lambert lost his head.
>>738168259It sold so terribly that Iron18 got cancelled
>>738168656Echoes sold way better than they anticipated. If you're gonna shitpost, at least do it with the facts
>>738168617The dialogue only notes that the planning to kill Rhea predated the Tragedy of Duscur. The fact that there was so little time between the Tragedy of Duscur and the charge Christophe was (publicly) arrested on implies that the attempt was right after the Tragedy of Duscur happened or right before it. The wider world wouldn't know he tried to kill the archbishop yet, nor would they know he was captured and thus notably absent from Faerghus or anywhere.
>>738168704>file deleted
>>738168259Doubt it since literally everyone in that game but Celica are forgotten.Not even your pic is remembered despite being the game's femme fatale.
>>738167258Claude always ends up juggernauting in Pokémon, but hilariously I can see it being poisoned by decades of "don't use Jeigan/Marcus too much, he eats all your EXP"
>>738168704It was the only game that could put me to sleep too kekaroo
>>738169276>don't use Jeigan/Marcus too much, he eats all your EXPThis is objectively correct
More like shit echoes
>>738169354And Nino is an S tier unit!
>>738167258I don't think it could even beat FE1 because you basically either need Marth with the Falchion to beat Medeus the easiest and that feels like far too much effort for the AI to be able to pull off, not to mention the insane final map.
>>738169078Okay but Catherine also acknowledges that Christophe's charges were a lie and that she did it to quell the chaos that was happening in Faerghus. And since no one knew Christophe had tried to kill the Archbishop, allowing Catherine's lie to stick, that would mean he was already on custody before shit got real. Even if Christophe made his attempt while the Tragedy of Duscur was happening, that still means both Catherine and the Church knew Christophe didn't have Lambert killed and that his public charges were bogus.
>>738169383Yes, she's singlehandedly saving your lategame exp rank
sex with Catherine
>>738169387I don't see it making it past Gharnef, and that's assuming the AI won't shit itself way earlier.
How many kids would Rhea want anyway?
>>738168298i want to rape oboro so bad it's unreal.
The AI isn’t going to do an Ironman though. If it has a similar setup to pokemon, it could be told “reset if Miledy or Perceval die” and clear the game easily.>>738169601FE1 is way too hard for it, it should play the retard proof GBA or Tellius games.
>>738169646She's a racist bitch
>>738169367based
>>738169669I dunno, FE7 has a few stages that will straight up filter an AI, and chapter 19 will get it soft locked as well since it won't understand what it means to defend the NPC, FE6 is uh...well maybe it can? but it might miss out on recruiting some of those really good characters like Perceval like you mentioned.
>>738168167concession accepted schizo fag
>>738169680and that's exactly why she needs bnc (big nohrian cock)
>>738169431If no one knew, but the circumstances were such that basically no one would have a reason to contest the idea that Christophe was the mastermind, it implies that Christophe hadn't already been missing for days, weeks, etc., meaning he hadn't tried to kill the archbishop and been captured yet. Whatever Christophe did had to happen very close to the date of the Tragedy of Duscur for the timing to line up with Faerghus finding the accusation believable. Didn't Lonato think the charge was blatantly uncharacteristic, rather than actually knowing for a fact his son had already been captured for something else beforehand?
>You think FE is a series for pros>If you mean pros at resetting, cheating or lying? for sure >Dohohohoho
>>738127349Yeah and the humans of fodlan are barely human.
>>738169940Catherine was my first and favorite 3H wife. I NEED MORE
Catherine would rather be with diarrhea or r*ul's shitty cum dumpster thou!
>>738169980
>>738170040I’m Rhea’s favorite so Catherine must love me anyways because Rhea told her to>>738170071Hot
>>738169590sesbian lex
>>738170121You will never be byleth deluded faggot
>>738170167I am THOUGH
>>738170121If you pick Rhea, you get Catherine for free. And because you have Catherine, you get Shamir for free. It’s really the best deal in all of FE.
Best support for Xander and Leo in term of chemistry?
>>738170439Both want Pieri
>>738169643You will end up repopulating the dragons and you kids would flood the land with green.
>>738146569Why does she fall for mercenary sword boys all the time?
>>738170504Imagine the uppies...
Sex with Hubert.
The real question isDoes Rhea give live birth or does she lay eggs?
>>738170667least heterosexual femanon itt btw
>>738170745Depends if Byleth gets her pregnant from kissing or fucking.
>>738170486>Pieri
>>738171047And lovey dovey babymaking missionary while holding hands(interlocked fingers) and kissing?
WHich girls get pregnant from headpats?
Aqua
>>738171296>Corrin>Flayn>Eir/Ymir>KvasirGranted, Eir can get pregnant with handholding.
>>738171296
fire emblem soulslike spin off
>>738172103How would that even work
>>738172524Real time MMO rollslop where everyone controls a different character at once
>>738171567She would get pregnant if you licked her feet
>>738167928Eh its free so cant complain.
>>738172870A prompt that I found to work is "make the tomboy prove that she's a girl" even for non-tomboys. Grok doesn't need to know :shush:
>>738127645If you know about his backstory with his son dying in an easily preventable terrorist attack, yeah, it's hard not to sympathize.
>>738172870cute
>>738125780Still my favorite
The roleplays we could together...
>>738161296Claude literally wanted to break into the tomb and steal Rhea's family's bones, but he sucked at it so Edelgard did it first. Claude is in that funny spot where he's only not a villain because he's not capable enough.
>>738174279>go against rhea = villainWhy are rheafags so weird? Even the game doesn't consider her to be good and is pretty explicit about it
>>738174350Didn't you hear what he said? Nigga was trespassing and graverobbing
>>738174350I think you're being the weird one here, anon didn't say that. Graverobbing and trying to conquer other countries generally aren't considered morally righteous actions, anon.
>>738174404And?
>>738174420>graverobbing bad>executing POWs goodRheafag mindset
>>738174456I don't like Rhea either. That doesn't mean it's okay to conquer her country and steal her mom's bones converted into a WMD.
>>738174502>her countryShe's not even human, what claim does she have to anything?>steal her mom's bonesAgain, not a person.
>>738174593>She's not even human, what claim does she have to anything?The same any human does, blood and iron. She killed the people that disagreed.
>>738174593Lizard people have feelings too
>>738174630So she's "right" because she killed all of her enemies? Then what's wrong with invading her country and killing her? It just proves her wrong.
>>738174678No, it's not right what Rhea did.
>>738174350He is a villain.He doesn't care about Fodlan.He would gladly fill it with Almiggers and force the locals to be assimilated.It was specially funny in Hopes where he admits he could end the war early but he prefers it drags on just to import his savage bethren.
>>738174717>headcanon
>>738174706Then her "country" is illegitimate and there's nothing wrong with removing her from power, by force if necessary
>>738174789Two wrongs don't make a right and the ends don't always justify the means. Furthermore an outsider to Fodlan with vested interests in a foreign country trying to conquer the region isn't really the liberator Fodlan needs, probably.
Rhea's phat ass
>>738174751>We could kill Edelgard now that she is cornered and the war ends which he acknowledged was a good thing.>No the war has to continue to remove what I think stops me from unleashing Almyggers in the country.Was funny how Dimitri actually has a better solution during that paralogue where he plans to establish mutual understanding with those snow people they feud with.
>>738174868>Two wrongs don't make a right"rhea is allowed to do it but you aren't"
>>738175081If you agree that it was wrong when Rhea does it then you must also think that it's wrong when Claude does it. Not that the story is comparable, the humans wouldn't have had an empire without the gifts of the Nabateans. I'm just viewing war as wrong in general.
>slithers kill Rhea's family>she kills them back>slithers kill Edelgard's family>she goes to kill RheaIf anything, it sounds like Rhea is just the victim twice.
>>738175146Not really, just like I think it's wrong when a murderer kills an innocent person, I don't think it's wrong if someone goes up to that murderer and shoots him.
>>738175162Probably would have been for the best to just leave Fodlan. Killing Nemesis is pretty understandable since that's rather personal. The rest of the converted bones she let the humans keep anyway so no difference there.
>>738175162>Being so despicable that someone would rather kill you instead of the people responsible for murdering her familylolEveryone hates Rhea
>>738175185Actually that is wrong and we enforce it being wrong with jail time.
>>738175303Not really, depends on the jury honestly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Jeffrey_DoucetAnd if the law punishes killing evil people, there's something wrong with the law.
>>738174912...Doesn't exist
>>738175162sounds like Rhea fucked up on step 2 and failed to kill all the Slithers. can't blame Edelgard for realizing Rhea's incompetence is actually what ruined her life.
>>738177341That's a pretty good point. Rhea didn't go far enough. Would have solved a lot of problems if she did.
Rhea should have killed Edelgard too
>>738177424she tried, but wasn't ready for Hubert's Warp Powder.
>>738155286Rhea IS an authoritarian, what the game implies but doesn't tell you outright is that the Church doesn't have the power to be as authoritarian as she'd like. If she started whacking nobles left and right for bad behavior, or tried to undermine their power in any serious way, they'd all turn on her.
>>738178373Clearly nobody told Rhea that the best governance system was a benevolent dictatorship so she unknowingly allowed it to get this bad.
>>738125780He gets painted as crazy but was objectively correct.
How does it feel to still dying in the golden route when everyone else get to live?
>>738179995S-shut up!
>>738179995>does it feel to still dyingThere is no golden route saar
Goooood morning to everyone! Except Engagefags
>>738137049He fucked up when he started killing all the Homs still on the Bionis once he took control of the Mechonis though
>>738183947It's funny because Zanza's gambit to lure Shulk to Egil and Meyeth requires Egil to strike first. Granted Zanza can make plans like that because he can see the future but I find it funny that if Egil decides to just chill out, Shulk probably just spends the rest of his days eating Fiora's sandwich
>>738184406Sword Valley was pumping the Bionis full of poisonous ether to slow down Zanza's reawakening, and Egil baiting the Trinity's army onto Sword Valley just to drop them into the ocean and keep them from feeding the Bionis was master class, but at that point Zanza was already in the same room as him, it was already over
>>738177341>sounds like Rhea fucked up on step 2 and failed to kill all the SlithersThe thing people dont get is that people assume the slitherers were active during or slightly before nemesis. The slitherers were nearly wiped out and went underground at the same time sothis died. Rhea never actually fought them as the standing leader of sothis' kingdom, she has spent thousands of years fully believing that they had been wiped out. This is part of the reason for how rapidly her mental state degenerates after she finds out they have been active, orchestrating every element of opposition during her entire reign.
>>738184684That's true but Zanza was already planning around that. The Ether poison doesn't matter if he's piggybacking on Shulk. He didn't realize his planned futures could be broken until after Shulk recovered from his own death when Shulk started having visions all on his own. Meaning he probably knew as far back as his conflict with the Giants what Egil was gonna do. At the very least he turned the Monado against Dunban to make sure Shulk was the one to raid Mechonis, not him. Either way it doesn't matter. Once you have 2 people who can predict the future then you're no longer omniscient and Zanza revealed himself to be a weak willed child when he's forced to try and forge a future from the unknown like literally everyone else.
>>738170439Unironically F!Corrin lmao
>>>/vg/
>>738185378Bite my shiny metal ass!
>>738174593>She's not even human, what claim does she have to anything?She was created by a god living on the planet and has existed for over a thousand years. The Nabateans had their own society and Rhea built Garreg Mach in the same area instead of displacing anyone.>>738174717Claude's plan was never to just topple Fodlan and sweep in with Almyra.
>>738185378https://4chan.org/janitorapp
>>738155286Ding ding ding! This is the most frustrating thing about 3H discourse. It's inherently flawed because we're TOLD that Rhea is this authoritarian crazy woman, but what we're constantly SHOWN is how little power the church actually has over the nobility.
>>738185378Use thread hiding and filters to remove things you don't want to see instead of being a moderation beggar
>>738187968>Janitors need to have a basic understanding of DiscordKek, no wonder that they're all obsessed with erp
3H shit threads are so dead lmao
GIWTWM
>>738125780My distinct memory of this game is how many characters just swoop in from nowhere when it's their turn to speak
>>738186874Claude's plan is incredibly vague but iirc he just wanted to get rid of Rhea because he assumed that the church is the reason why the Fodlanese werent receptive to their neighbouring nations.In reality its a bit more complicated than that and Almyra has their own demons to deal with internally such as bad actors that operate near the borders and his power hungry brother that tried to stage an invasion against the king's will to be seen as less of a shitter back home.You can see this considering how little of a fuck Nader actually gives until when Claude actually gets involved. Or that he becomes friends with Holst almost immediately.
>>738186874>Claude's planHis plan is to force Fodlanese to accept Almyrans despite them being a country of savages (He has to tell them not to nigger out when they join the war).Why doesn't he first sorts out his shitty country first?Instead his solution is to prolong the war, fuck up the country and kill a person he thinks is getting in the way.
>>738190661>Why doesn't he first sorts out his shitty country first?He doesn't have the political capital to do that. He needs to prove he's good at killing people before Almyrans will follow him en masse.
>>738190661>Why doesn't he first sorts out his shitty country first?That's why he came to Fodlan. He's the youngest and scrawniest of the royal family, a half-breed, and nobody listens to him.So he goes undercover to white people school for a year (or not, in Hopes) and manages to get his act together (or does not, in Hopes).
>>738190661>>738190838>>738191107>Fodlan calls Almyra a bunch of savages>While the western kingdom is constantly betraying whoever they sided with at the time and Faerghus also has a culture that glorifies war and combat>And when Lambert attempted a peaceful solution with their neighbors, the slithers and his own brother orchestrated his own deathLmao
>>738191461They are worse.Thats why Cyril rather die than returning to that shithole.
>>738125914People who say she's super duper evil are people who fetishize lesbians and autimatically side with the emperor.
>>738191529Cyril is the equivalent of a child living on some border shithole trying to speak for the entire country. Are you going to say that the Edelgard and the empire are representative for the entirety of Fodlan by that logic?Claude's plotline rings hollow because we dont actually have any "normal" almyrans to tell us anything about the country's way of life on top of never getting to visit there ourselves. We have an orphan, a prince and a famous general.
>>738191461>all of the violence is caused by the Slithers, another race of people>and the entire time, the Almyrans are slaughtering each other and constantly attacking Fodlan, only held back because of a chokepoint in the mountainsYes, Fodlanese people are unironically the least-savage.
>>738125780Rhea got completely tamed by "big"Willy Hresvelg and let him make his own empire with his super powers after she asked him to not abuse his superpowers. Literally every single issue Edelgard has with the world is because of Adrestria.
>>738191802Trying to blame it all on the slithers just make the fodlanese look retarded. They have no brains for themselves, so they're easily manipulated by a third party.The slithers arent responsible for the crest shit that plague a bunch of backstories either.
>>738125780She controlled much of the politics of the continent for over 1000 years while disguising herself as her successors and filling the hidden background portions of the church with her immortal followers she shared her blood with.It doesn't matter if she had good intentions, she caused a bunch of fuck ups due to her stranglehold
>>738168083
W-why are you smiling like that Hilda?
>>738192031Well there was also less than 10 major wars in over 1000 years. Which is fucking insane.
>>738192359Does he have a dog yet?
>>738192640Marianne's cunt is super smelly today
I love Shamir
>>738149826>Edelcucks still fucking malding that the boar didn’t just let her trample over his country for her “greater machincheez motives”You will always be a simp who backed the option that needed to have what schools are needed for explained to her, because she wanted to fuck you.
Marriage with Marianne!
>>738137198Well that's sort of the point. In egil's perspective genocide was guaranteed on bionis either way. Literal god had to intervene to revive shulk and kill zanza, something that is otherwise understandably an impossible turn of events.
>>738194271you’re late
>>738194271
>>738194905
Blonde babies with blonde FE girls
What is the best magic class in fate?>Oni Chieftant>Bahasa>Sorcerer>Onmyoji>Malig Knight>Dark Knight>Witch>Dark Flyer
>>738179995she survived in Blue Lions route so it is fineClaude can go and rim his own butthole
>>738193603His decisions killed more Faerghusians than Imperials in the end.
>>738196427Witch
>>738196427>CombatPick one of Sorc, Chieftain or Malig>Pair UpOnmyo
>>738192640Caspar was really good at carrying her luggage
>>738196568Care to share with us the statistics?
>>738192031What stranglehold? Adrestria actively doesnt listen to the church to the point where they just made their own one, Leicester is a merchant state, and the kingdom support her but they are fully compromised by molemen.
Have any of you ever actually played PoR using the fixed camera option for combat animations? I actually kinda like it better because it gives that classic left vs. right feeling back to it, but at the same time, it makes it even more obvious how stiff the animations are.
>>738196427Chieftain if all you want is fuck-off bulk with zero weaknesses.Malig as an all-arounder that flies.Dark Knight as an all-arounder not weak to bows, but gets cucked by beast damage.Sorceror/Onmyoji as the one everyone wants the skills of.Witch and DF if you don't mind cheating.I guess everything is kinda good in its way.
>>738196972>Sorceror/Onmyoji as the one everyone wants the skills ofSorcerer skills are shit though? Dark mage gets the busted skills and of both promo options dark knight at least gets something good in lifetaker at 15.
>>738196972Yeah, excluding the DLC things are fairly balanced.
>>738196967>animations at all
>>738197084Yes I meant Dark Mage skills.Socerer itself is also good for max hit bullshit but I think it's kinda overrated as a general purpose combat class. If you're not doing the LaD build, most alternatives mog it.
>>738196967I haven't turned Tellius animations on in over a decade. If PoR had the combat stats in it (hit, avoid, damage), I'd consider turning them on sometimes. I like that RD brought it back.
countermagic doesn't work on paired units right? >>738197084yeah bowbreaker is mostly useless as there's only like a few archers in the game that are even at the level where your units could have this skill except felicia/jakob!kana/corrin!dwyer. and vengance is inconsistent, not only could it not proc or proc when you don't want it but you could also proc for 0 whole damage because you dodged an attack.
>>738197268because lightning was on a paired unit. fuck you countermagic.
>>738197268>countermagic doesn't work on paired units right?No but even if it did you'd still live
>>738196897Yeah I got em right here>Casualties of the Great Fodlan War:>Faerghus: 6,000,000>Adrestia: 12
>>738196972I find Oni Savage to be good pick for Corrin class since the only way to get access to that class is through Rinkah and Hayato, both suck at that class.
>>738197245>the combat stats in it (hit, avoid, damage)Yeah, that was a really stupid oversight on IS' part. I exclusively play the vanilla roms, so I also hate that I have to turn animations on to see that shit on enemy phase in GBA.>>738197118Turning on animations is SOVL for things like boss fights and really tense enemy phases.
>>738197548Rinkah and Hayato are fine Chiefs because enemy res stats are pretty bad in BR. Rinkah needs a dust or two to really pop off, Hayato has a shaky start but good mag/low skill (just use Rat Spirit).I wouldn't pick it in BR for that reason but it's kinda fun in Conquest since you can never access it there.You can also get it on Orochi via Rinkah/Hayato easily if you fix her speed, and Rhajat is like the nuclear offensive option with really bad hit rate.
Am I just bad or are conquest paralogues harder than the main game?
>>738154095and this goes against OP... how exactly?
>>738197806They are for the most part
Sis isnt even trying anymore. Who tf was she aiming at?
>>738196568Why didn’t Edelgard ever surrender when she was getting her shit kicked in the other 3 routes where you don’t simp for her retard pussy? Why is she allowed to kick and scream and dig her feet in at her last stronghold city, but Dimitri fighting boots on ground combat is in the field until he dies is extending the world’s suffering or whatever?
>>738197806Paralogues scale with chapter progress, main chapters are static. So if you do an already easy paralogue like Ophelia early, it will feel easy. If you do it late, it will feel pretty demanding. And if you do a hard paralogue like Percy or Siegbert late, it will feel frustrating.
>>738197572I wish the PoR animations had more oomph to them. RD animations did this so much better. Like Swordmasters slashing at other Infantry units' legs and those units falling down. Or Swordmasters doing a tumble backwards to dodge hits.
>>738198087Its extra bad because the children feel like they don't scale up properly once the enemies are promoted classes.Especially if you can't control them to use their Child Seal right away.IIRC (it's been a while) Ryoma's kid is more or less unobtainable after a certain point because he is a green unit surrounded by enemies on turn 1, unless you use a Staff to save him or do something crazy.
>>738198087It's pretty hard to even do siegbert early, considering xander joins pretty late as it is. I tend to do it as soon as it's available and it's always one of the hardest maps in the game
>>738198028Her fans will tell you it's because she did nothing wrong
>>738197318>went up to the door but never equipped the tomahawk which is the whole reason he was even near the door because the anti mage generals were nearby.lol.
>>738198298Siegbert is best to do late once you have OP shit like vantage LaD sweepers and Xander/master ninja juggernauts. You'll never get to it before they promote, anyway.
>>738198271Shiro can always be obtained with dance/shelter-chain shenanigans. It's really just that first turn that sucks, after that it's like a normal Birthrout map.Of course Rescue is not exactly at a premimum in BR, so you can always do that as an easy option.
anyone else notice how laggy games on fire emblem shadows are now? it ddint used to be like this i feel
>>738198384>Siegbert is best to do lateMe when I lie
>>738191934>The slithers arent responsible for the crest shit that plague a bunch of backstories either.They're the ones that told Nemesis and his pals how to get crests and make weapons.
>>738198701Why would it be easier earlier? They're already promoted anyways, might as well wait until you can shit on them with lategame exclusive shit.
Counter on Oni Chieftant seem pretty pointless skill. Like your def is usually high enough that most attacks won't do enough damage for it to matter. Seem like only Death Blow is the only thing worth getting
>>738198454your phone is getting old
>>738194271kys
>>738198865Chieftain has very bad skills. The whole class line is kinda meh skill-wise, probably to balance out how much of a statistical powerhouse it is.Seal Res is fine but ideally you want to push a mage to 1round thresholds, so it often doesn't do anything. Easily the best skill is Lancebreaker since it catapults their durability with tomes into the stratosphere, but it comes later and is not really worth going out of your way for in BR imo.
>>738198359warytards when i one shot them, not even needing to double.
>>738200173It's a good feeling
Putting counter of Azama and you unequip him reflects 1.5x damage back. Not worth it for a shitty meme build but can be fun
>>738191712But we are told by him their customs and they do this shit often enough that slave orphans was widespread enough.I certainly think his POV is more worthwhile than the mutt Prince who doesn't ever try to acknowledge the actions of his people contribute to the locals negative opinions of his folk or how its up to them (Almyrans) to make concessions for any kind of understanding.>>738192640She looking at the new Shotamyran slave that was brought home.
>>738201001I guess if you for some reason want to keep him as a healer you can do that. He's genuinely one of the best combat units in BR though.
Birthright=Donkey Kong CountryConquest=DKC2Revelations=DKC3
>>738200173that wasn't so bad
>>738202251Retard
>>738125780She looks like she happily takes surprise buttsex from boys 50x younger than herself
>>738202495the enemy can't crit you if they're already dead
>>738197548>Hayato and Rinkah both suck at itNeither of them suck at it but barely anyone plays BR beyond lmao Lobstergod solo.
>>738203728Hayato is probably worse than Mozu in terms of payoff.
>>738198762You cannot logically believe that the slithers were responsible for EVERY crest related problem in Fodlan. They started it but the nobles are the ones who proliferated the problem.>>738201921Cyril is the equivalent of listening to some kid from Detroit projecting his experience across the entire country. Claude is some silicon valley kid. There's not enough data points to make a good enough conclusion. For example, if Almyra was such a backwards shithole in every way, then why did Lorenz make a point about the Alliance's navy clearly losing to the Almyran equivalent?
>>738204008Man, the shit you niggas say. You really think a tanky caster is worse than a fucking archer?
Tanya x Ronan sex to make good archers in Thracia 777
>>738204135I don't want to raise either of these level 1 units.
>>738204008I firmly disagree, especially in the context of Birthright. He is surprisingly easy to train.Not going to bother bringing up Rev when he's one of the few non royals that were blessed not be hot garbage.
>>738204330I was probably too harsh, he's a little better than Mozu.
>>738204090>They started it but the nobles are the ones who proliferated the problem.It's implied or just outright stated that most major conflicts were done by the slithers. Fodlan people tend to get along otherwise.
>>738204248Rinka is a tutorial character. If she's level 1 in BR, that's on you for completely ignoring her.
>>738204576We're talking about Hayato.
>>738204248I'm not exactly a Hayatofag but we managed to use him (and Rinkah) in the relay, he's not hard to raise. The thing is, BR enemies have pathetic stats even more so than usual for Fates enemies, and there are a few maps early on that are easy to raise him in. Chapter 9 has that DV that makes everyone +4 speed for the map, Mozulogue is there, Invasion 1. You have tonics and enemies have like nothing for resistance.It's kinda just Odin all over again, where people exaggerate how hard he is to train because his bases look ugly, but game context tells a different story.
>>738204419>A littleTry significantly better. I'd rather use him over Mozu, Tsubaki, Hana and Setsuna at minimum. Even a 10/1 Hayato that spends the rest of the game as an Onmyo backpack for Orochi/Rinkah/Rhajat is preferable. +5 Mag/Spd at A is no joke.
>>738204612Mozu isn't hard to raise either, anon.
>>738204709I didn't say she is. But she takes a heart seal to be a goddamn archer. I don't care how much you can fix stats in Fates or how much bowfags are coping in Fates, that simple reality is always going to hinder her actual usefulness.
>>738204569I'm not talking about "major conflicts", I'm talking about societal problems in general. Dorothea's entire backstory for example.
>>738204780Not to mention she has a couple chapters of bad performance for the effort and many more of comparable ones to her competition.
>>738204826I want to save her tho
>>738204826>I'm talking about societal problems in general.Bro, the slithers literally replaced public officials to cause dissent.Dorothea's problems are unironically in part caused by Thales bodysnatching Arundel.
>>738204090I mean Genghis Khan was a savage but still his military was still powerful.What Cyril says matches with them loving to be niggers on the locket.>But HolstI do wonder how the people that constantly fight and the ones whose family members died protecting the Locket think of it over the dude who is strong enough to shrug off the assailants.
>>738204974Okay so explain Ingrid's family wanting to marry her off for cash because she had a crest and they were poor.How about Sylvain's skewed perception over women because of him being a crest baby. Hopes also said that Gautier is not entirely in the right over the Sreng stuff either.Are you going to say that both of those are a result of the slithers as well?
Edlegard but actually well written and right.
>>738205348Edelgard at least ostensibly wants to do good, Zephiel doesn't give a fuck and just wants to burn it all to the ground.
I just wanna marry blue girl and live happily ever after
>>738205348Cool that the assassins we save him from weren't hired by himself.
>>738205539One of the few good things FE7 did with the connection.
>>738205408 Zephiel is a Dragon supremacist and wants to do good, but only for dragons.
>>738205632No, he's a misanthropist that wants to topple human society completely. Giving it to the dragons is just convenient.
>>738205348>EdelgardZephiel is a dragon suprematist while Edelgard is racist against dragons.>Well written"My dad was a dick, so all humans are traitors and must be enslaved to dragons" is not good writing.>RightDumbass only gets people to betray their nations through coercion (submit or die, by my own hand if necessary), and he constantly gets proven wrong anyways thoughought the game (Zealot keeping his oath to Hector, the loyalist factions of Ostia and Eturia, the Church siding with Roy, etc)
>>738205306>Okay so explain Ingrid's family wanting to marry her off for cash because she had a crest and they were poor.You're not gonna guess who fucked over the dirt to make their crops fail and cause an economic crisis.>How about Sylvain's skewed perception over women because of him being a crest baby. You're not gonna guess why Sylvain is a crest baby.
>>738205052The game literally says that Shahid is disobeying the orders of his father to be a glory seeking retard which implies that while they do have a king, the power structure isnt as centralized as in the fodlanese nations.
>>738206029That's just a consequence of a large empire, and even that aside, it's his son, monarchs giving preferential treatment to kin is commonplace.
>>738205932>Fodlanese are perfect dindus and every possible thing that went wrong including them happening to settle in poor farming lands/mismanaged funds is the result of the slithersRidiculous
>>738206157Yeah, the Slithers were fucking retarded and should never have existed.
Sex with DImitri
>>738206108The preferred child is Claude not Shahid, to Shahid's ire.>>738206181It just makes the Fodlanese look like retards or someone is applying the no limits fallacy to an idiotic degree.
>>738206274If Claude's dad wanted to he could just have Shahid's head chopped off for daring to disobey his orders. He doesn't do that though. This is preferential treatment, since if it wasn't his son, he'd probably do just that.
>>738206274>It just makes the Fodlanese look like retardsWell yeah, they fail to notice the Slithers until they're willingly exposing themselves. Edelgard and Lysithea both could've easily stomped out the problem immediately if they bothered talking to someone for a few minutes instead of feeling sorry for themselves.
>>738206157Welcome to Fodlan, idiot.They also tried causing a plague, and when someone cured it by inventing aqueducts for pumping cleaner water, they immediately bodysnatched her to organize the assassination of the entire royal family.
blue chicks <3
>>738206582Would you? Even after she's body snatched?
>>738206582>Saviour of the Kingdom>Will be remembered as a traitor because Fodlán retards cannot spend five minutes investigating the bodysnatching cult that was causing shit for over a milleniaPoor Cornelia
>>738206582Whete is goodnelia in Heroes?The 3H spam would be more tolerable if they actually did cool shit with it.
>>738207207>Whete is goodnelia in Heroes?IS genuinely fucking dislikes Fodlan. There are CYL winners that barely get content. They still haven't even given Kronya a seasonal, when they've given plenty to Selena, Ursula, etc.. They're never gonna to Good Cornelia.>The 3H spamThe "3H spam" is just a yearly NH banner and a yearly Edelgard/Dimitri/Claude banner, and one Shez alt. Even the Byleths rarely get content.
>>738207493>some other studio is wildly more successful with your own series than you ever wereI get why they're upset.
>>738208025I do, too. But they should instead be looking at why it was successful while also milking it through gacha.Instead, we're getting another Engage banner trailer tomorrow night.
>>738204780To be fair archers are better than usual in conquest, mainly because of ch 10 fliers and ninja spam maps, and mozu levels up pretty easily in 10 with a forge but the fact that she takes an early heart seal is pretty gay
>>738208607>To be fair archers are better than usual in conquestD-tier to C-tier lol
>>738208094>another Engage banner trailer tomorrow night.Based IS.
>>738208673They still have no enemy phase but they have so much damage (and accuracy) that they are able to easily delete things on player phase. Master ninjas can be annoying to deal with and archers are one possible solution. They aren't juggernauts but they definitely have a viable niche in this game.
>>738208735Sadly, it's Fallen. So it wouldn't be Citrinne, and would instead be Vegan Timerra.
