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>Completely forgotten after just 1 year
What went wrong?
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sex with Gallica
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>>738133290
It was a shit game that fell short of the fun experiences of the games it was spinning off of.
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>>738133290
Still waiting for the expanded edition they resell at full price every time
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E33 is superior in every regard anyway.
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the cast is nowhere near as interesting as persona and louis' back broke trying to carry them
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>>738133290
Simple boring.
I'm starting to think Catherine was a fluke but then again they even ruined that with it's "remake".
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I thought it was far superior to Persona 5 and restored my faith in Hashino. But considering how insanely popular Persona 5 was, that meant that, for its target audience, it was probably a big disappointment. If they even gave it a try.
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>>738133630
>I thought it was far superior to Persona 5 and restored my faith in Hashino.
I see you didnt played Royal then. That game is far superior to shit game, the graphics are somehow better too.
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>>738133290
Seems like still lives rent free inside your obsessed mind.
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>>738133290
the guy who does all those persona porn animations just released a 3 min animation on metaphor
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>>738133290
Forgotten by all but one person. You haven't seen him dumping his sega hate spam all day every day? He's even more dedicated than barry. What drives him to do 10,000 posts seething about turn based games is anyones guess.
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OH NO NO NO I FORGOT TO POST THE STEAMCHART IGNORE THE THREAD
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>>738134219
>E33 out of nowhere
TGA 2025 really mindbroke Atlus shills that badly kek
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>>738134447
>>738133507
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>>738133290
>king wanted a good and fair election and even added anti tamper magic
>all that shit goes out the window by the middle of the game
why even bother
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>>738134447
>out of nowhere >>738133507
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>>738134219
GIGA BASED
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>>738133787
Of course I didn't play the even longer version of the 100 hours + shit game. And anyone who would subject themselves to another one after Persona 5 is not a reliable source to me, you're clearly wrong in the head.
That plus Atlus' long history of shitting up every single rerelease of theirs.
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>>738133290
They need to attract a wider audience.
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Atlus forgot the keystone of their games is hanging out with your friends after school. without that it just falls apart
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>>738135792
>he's going to respond to himself to complete the joke
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>>738135857
No, I won't. I was hoping for someone else to do it.
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>>738133290
You're talking about it, so it's not completely forgotten.
I just did my NG+ run a month ago, making the superboss NG+ was a mistake.
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>>738133290
boring ass story
bleak characters
braindead find->exploit weakness gameplay
infantile racism-bad agenda in every single corner they could find

this shit almost felt like a chink gacha, except bitches were rarely hot
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>>738136156
Yeah, but I'm glad Atlus learned it with P3R since you don't need NG+ to fight Elisabeth and Joker
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>>738133290
You can’t have >>738133350
so no one cares
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>>738135792
trust the plan
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>>738136438
Hashino is going to save the genre again.
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>>738133290
>what went wrong
>Daily posts about it
Nothing.
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>>738133290
Trooncoded game
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>>738133290
Persona without the heart
SMT without the soul
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The English voice cast carried what are otherwise weak and bland characters hard.
They were great to listen to, Louis in particular.
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>>738133290
They deleted hulk's butt.
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>>738136438
What's JRPG 1.0 and 2.0?
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>>738136718
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>Completely forgotten after just 1 year
What went wrong?
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>>738136745
Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy VII
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>>738136745
1.0 Dragon Quest, pure turn based
2.0 Final Fantasy IV, introduction of ATB
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>>738133290
Its been 2 years
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>>738133290
It was fine and you're brown.
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>>738133290
it was ugly, preachy and pretentious,
it was also extremely astroturfed
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>>738136745
Final Fantasy VII
Persona 5
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>>738136853
What did FF7 add to the JRPG that fundamentally changed it enough to justify calling it JRPG 2.0?
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>>738136909
But enough about E33.
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>>738133630
Would I enjoy it if I like the social stuff from Persona but advanced jarpeg combat makes me want to shoot myself?
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>>738136909
>people liking any game other than 7R is proof of astroturfing!
give it a rest already
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>>738137045
no
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>>738137034
Materia
FMVs
Tifa
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>>738133290
This >>738133486, just put the actual full game out and then people will get it
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>>738136745
>JRPG 2.0 is the modern style of games with high quality and improved responsiveness
this could be anything from 1991 to mid 2010's
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>>738137059
You don't need high IQ to see how well the journos treated this game.
They probably saw the censorship and pro-diversity message and it was already enough for them to gush about it
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>>738137045
It's like chrono trigger you combine with multiple characters to do powerful super attacks
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>>738137059
7R was dogshit, that doesn't change that Metaphor was written specifically to appeal to game journalists
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>>738137257
You lost, brownoid
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>What do we name this elf girl knight character with the long furry ears?
>I know what about HULKENBERG.
>You know, like The Hulk. And German. Because maybe elves are German or some shit, everyone The Hulk is like a knight.
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>>738137034
3D graphics alongside a mature story, a shit-ton of side content, and being on a hyper-successful console, all culminating in getting JRPGs to breach the mainstream in a way they hadn't before. The game pretty much single-handedly defined the generic JRPG hero as "guy with spiky hair and an oversized sword" for several decades.
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>>738133290
Theres a jrpg coming out every other month and they take forever to beat.

No need to linger on anymore
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Persona 6 sire, its all i ask

Can't a nigga get a crumb of Persona 6 sire?
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>>738137257
100 threads a day about the ff7 girls (and cloud and sephiroth) and you would never dare call 7r astroturfed. You see a single positive mention of anything else and you ring the "its astroturfed" bell.
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>>738137412
>FF7
>mature
Most juvenile story ever written.
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>>738136438
The structure and presentation of his games is already very different from anything else in the genere that isn't specifically copying his games. I welcome a reinvention that isn't another Persona 3 spinoff for his titles, but I think he's overestimating how ubiquitous his brand of game design is in the genre if he thinks whatever his next game is will redefine it.
I'm not even saying it as a bad thing, variety is good, thank God not every JRPG is Persona 3, and Persona 3 itself is better for being unique.
If JRPG 2.0 can be both Metaphor and FFVII Rebirth, then whatever he comes up with next could also be JRPG 2.0.
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>>738137481
This shit is Persona 6. I started playing it expecting there to be some sort of difference between Persona and Metaphor, but nah. It's the exact same format. Same mechanics. Same everything, you're just not a highschool student.
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>>738137045
Probably not. You should try visual novels instead. Not saying it as an insult either, Persona 4 is a top 5 game to me. ToHeart has a lot of what you love about Persona, it got a remake last year, first time it was released in english.
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impregnate your gnome
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>>738137412
>The game pretty much single-handedly defined the generic JRPG hero as "guy with spiky hair and an oversized sword" for several decades.
That's dragon quest you retarded fag
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>>738133290
Terrible character designs except for the fucking fairy
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>>738133290
The quests are mostly boring. Every one in the team is a good boy that never did nuffin, wrong by the world. It brings up a lot of real world parallels with religion, government, laws and justice, then resolves them with a wave of the hand. As if the human condition and all its flaws are easy to solve, leading to a nothing burger ending.

It doesn't have the sex appeal of Persona. It doesn't have the dating system. It's a very fine, 8/10 JRPG, but those missing elements don't raise the quality of what is there. If you want a sex less, moral talking down to good RPG where the church is the bad guys, Metaphor is your game.
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>>738137481
We need to wait for Persona 4 to release again, maybe we'll even get a Persona 5 remake if we're lucky before Persona 6 is released
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>>738133903
>>738134009
he's here but he's trying to behave himself after being pre-emptively called out
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>>738137734
>the game is shit and fundamentally unappealing, 8/10
I fucking hate weebs
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>>738137590
The class system and the emphasis on combining attacks are the main differences, also you rank up every time you hang out with someone regardless of the choices you make or any other factors unlike Persona.
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>>738137604
VNs have always been a blind spot for me, I've got a couple of the classics downloaded but they're kind of daunting to start.
I played an Atlus game (13 Sentinels) that was 90% dialogue and it kicked ass, so you're probably right that I should get into more.
ToHeart looks comfy, thanks for the rec
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>>738133507
E33 was 9/11 for FFfags. Even after E33 fans have moved on, FFfags will not. They'll be seething forever.
There is literally no reason for anyone to be mad about E33. A small (white) team made a good game not based on an existing IP and it was a hit. It's the only truly feel good game industry story we've had in a decade. It's a miracle it happened in the middle of the worst hellscape the medium has ever gone through. The ONLY reason to be mad about it is if you're a FF retard who is threatened by its mere existence. They also have no reason to seethe at Metaphor. Nobody else even gives a shit about Metaphor. Only FFfags talk about Metaphor. But E33 committed the unforgiveable crime of being popular.
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>>738137809
Don't be pedantic. By your logic Persona 4 and Persona 5 aren't the same series either because there are minor differences.
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>>738137873
Someone is going to call it a non-Atlus game because Vanillaware made it.
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>>738137790
Where did I say the game was bad? It's a well built game, with a lot of story, characters and RPG mechanics. It's just not amazing. What the fuck is wrong with you zoomers? Is that you IGN?

If you want the best JRPG in the last 2 years, Unicorn Overlord is it.
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>>738137873
If you give it a try, you will immediately recognize where so many of the tropes that define P3~5 characters came from. It's really cool.
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>Nobody else even gives a shit about Metaphor. Only FFfags talk about Metaphor.
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>>738137903
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>>738138058
I really like this guy, he tries too hard to be "a real one" but it circles around to being endearing. The game's director bothering to write this for a fucking steam sale bundle really shows that he's just some retarded faggot who loves games.
Still don't want to play his game though.
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>>738138159
E33 was a solid popcorn game that you can tell was made with love.
The shitflinging surrounding it was psychotic.
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methapor has such a shit story
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Would rather they make a new game with SMT's gameplay.
Fuck doing the social links crap.
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>game suggests i do sidequests before doing the main dungeon
>travel to my bounty and save
>the boss is level 55
>my party members are level 35
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Stay mad
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>>738133290
I just finished this game and it was really good. I don't know why /v/ doesn't like it more.
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>>738139280
>I don't know why /v/ doesn't like it more
JRPG fanbases tribalism.
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>>738139374
Is that all?
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>>738139280
the 7R fanbase is very insecure and spends every minute of their time on 4chan kvetching about its "rivals"
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>>738139457
Unironically yes. All JRPG fanbases here hate each other, the most prominent war right now is between Atlus fans vs Square Enix fans.
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>>738133290
Sissy prince
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>>738139569
I like both.
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>>738137489
>you would never dare call 7r astroturfed
Yes I would, just like I'd call E33 and Resident evil astroturfed.
Of course I notice when suddenly there's a 9000% increase in waifu threads and SUSPICIOUS interest in "Who is Leon Kennedy married to!? omg omg omg geeez I'm soooooo curiouzz -paints nails while laying on bed swinging feet-"

I'm not going to call any of the games good or shit, as I haven't played them, but I can see the pattern
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I'm still bitter because I bought it and it wound up being the only major Atlus RPG to get cracked (at the time).
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>>738133290
>>Completely forgotten after just 1 year
>What went wrong?
Not on Switch 2
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>>738133290
Was fun but it has a really mediocre story and characters, don't see what else you can talk about it since combat is just more smt
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>>738133290
I only played the demo, but I was astounded by how little subtlety was placed in the racism plot. Every single piece of dialogue was referencing the MC looking different, racism, diversity etc., the fairy by far being the worst culprit. Everyone talked about the MC being discriminated more than the MC himself. There was no room left for interpretation or thought from the player. I think a lot of games could take more notes from the N64 Zeldas. Those games really emphasized the "show not tell" aspect a lot of modern games seem to miss, encouraging the player to interact with the NPCs and explore the environment to draw their own conclusions. I don't even remember the older Persona games weren't so hamfisted.
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>>738133290
>racism is le bad
>status quo is le bad, but only until someone who is willing and able to change things comes around
Journalistbait, the game.
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>>738141585
enhanced edition for switch 2 *also piss5 ,sexbox and pc
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>>738141318
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>>738141318
>new game comes out
>people are interested in it
>""""""""suspicious interest""""""""
What does it take for someone to become this mentally ill?
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>>738133290
I dunno why you retards expect any game beyond multiplayer or live service slop to get 24/7 discussion, or how a game not doing that is somehow an indicator of the game's quality.
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>>738133507
>dude a turn based rpg but they say fuck and shit all the time!
Westoids are so predictable.
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>>738143541
>>738143814
FF7 has been astroturfed on this board for years.
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>>738144158
>one of the most beloved games of all time
>30 years old
>"astroturfed"
The mental illness grows
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>>738143814
Just saying, a site that's predominantly autistic males, I find it exceedingly unnatural for a bunch of grown ass men to act like teen girls talking about their favorite Resident evil drama couple.
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>>738144471
You've clearly never been to /a/.
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>>738136803
I'll never forgive them for this.
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>>738144204
Buy an ad
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>>738144204
You know pretty well all the spam and shilling are for the demakes.
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>>738143842
Megaten, E33, FF and Xeno threads always get to 500 posts, while there's almost none for Metaphor.
Explain that.
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>>738144158
Metaphor is one of the most astroturfed games in recent years.
Accusing someone else of astroturfing when Metaphor general on /vg/ is literally just a single fag boorudumping to bump endlessly is pathetic.
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>>738144510
Come on, RE is an action horror game, don't act like you don't find the influx of drama & pairing obsession unnatural.
Not even literal "X is best girl" threads were as forced as they were
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>>738144580
what's the Before from, a demo?
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>>738144859
You're a newfag clearly. This shit predates you
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>>738144851
Yeah disingenous imbecile, one guy with a general is astroturfing, but one guy spamming the entire board with AI Tifa, AI Scarlet, necrobumping the threads with retarded shit like inflation and porn is all organic.
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>>738144851
>Metaphor is one of the most astroturfed games in recent years.
That was E33. Metaphor doesn't even chart
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>>738144909
I don't care what you think and I have nothing to prove to you, go back to worshipping your engagement-bait jeet babylon threads
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>>738145030
Don't try to argue with those demented cultists when they post shit like this >>738142852
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>>738145038
>make such a forgettable game that no one questions whether it was astroturfed or not
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>using fucking 4chan as popularity meter argument
New low.
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>>738133290
>people rightfully paranoid they're just going release Metaphor: Simile in 1-2 years because Atlas has perpetually done that
>also no "whoa I get to relive my high school school life but as a popular universally beloved badass that gets all the babes" fantasy that Persona coasts on
>also no romance in general so the shit that kept Persona relevant is just nonexistent here

It's better than any Persona game, storywise and gameplaywise but it also just isn't going to have the same cultural staying power.
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>>738145192
Pretty much this,
as soon as the paid posters disappeared, the game was less talked about than Final Fantasy 12
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>>738133290
only people who don't play games give a shit if they need to hear about it for the next decade
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>Rebirth is popular, look all these threads!
>still no official sales numbers announcement
LMFAO
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>>738133290
They went woke and censored, so I never played it. They picked the wrong time to be promoting immigration and diversity and censoring.
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>>738145430
Yeah, FFXIV is woke as well
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>>738144804
E33 threads are like 90% shitflinging and all the others are series of games while Metaphor is a singular one.
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i didn't forget about it. it's a solid 8.5/10 jrpg that i would recommend to any Atlus fan that's already played their better games.
>>738133507
obviously
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>>738137903
this would be a tactical TRVKE if tendies didn't exist. i notice you conveniently left them out when they seethe about E33 more than anyone else
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>>738133290
it was just forgettable
dont regret playing it but it's not something ive ever really thought about since
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>>738145740
why'd you post the MC celebrating and then crying in the following panels?
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The demo really took me out of the world. Every like 5 seconds in the intro they kept saying how racism was so rampant and brutal and yet the military is full of everyone fighting side by side and the only racism you actually experience is from an extremely cartoonish obese bad guy, and random NPCs that say "Ugh, I don't need help from YOUR KIND" that then die brutal deaths right after.

Also it was literally just persona, who cares?
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>>738136745
Dragon Quest makes sense for 1.0, that's what started the genre and its hard to argue anything else as 1.0. It set the standard that so many JRPGs copied it really can't be anything else.

2.0 is harder to pin down, the evolution of the JRPG after Dragon Quest has a ton of branches plenty which are still active today. There isn't one dominant branch that just killed off all the others we've still got DQ, FF, Pokemon, Mario RPG, SaGa, Xeno, SMT, Fire Emblem, Tales, ect each with their own flavors and their own derivatives and offshoots. Final Fantasy is probably the biggest but they keep reinventing the wheel ever since X its hard to even see a clear evolutionary relationship between them was FFX's CTB JRPG 2.0? It was completely abandoned after FFX. Was ATB JRPG 2.0? Its stuck around the most but hasn't been in a mainline FF game since FFIX. Was FFXI JRPG 2.0? That's where they stated experimenting with real time combat, but none of those systems ever really stuck around or took off, but then again FFXII, FFXV, and FFXIV and FFXVI are all trying to be realtime combat so FFXI probably makes the most sense as the "JRPG 2.0" point, but then again there are still plenty of JRPG 1.0 (turn based) games around.
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my wishlist don't want none unless it got buns hun
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>>738133290
it even flopped in Japan, that's how you know it's bad. Not to mention it was released on every system at the same time too. That's why you see Fatlus so desperate talking about mass appeal and wider audience. I bet Sega already has them in the shopping block and Persona 6 will be the make it or break it. Every single game they released after Persona 5 has been a flop.
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>>738145740
Kek
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>>738137672
they have to hide their true forms otherwise they would be raped every second
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>>738133290
it was a fuglier persona with retarded commie friends/plot. I'm glad it failed
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When's the expanded version coming out aaaaaaaa
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>>738146342
>>738149204
>pleasee I don't want this thread to die too
kek
just accept that FF lost and move on
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>>738145038
You just know all the fans of #1 voted for #12, it's also why silksong is randomly in that "delete these fanbases" collage, because some upset southeast asian made it
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>>738133290
When's the expansion with playable Brigitta and additional story content coming out
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>>738133290
This game never had any organic following. It was atlus west retards trying to gaslight you into buying it to show the jap suits that blatant diversity propaganda sells
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>>738152154
If you say it 1000 more times it might become true
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>redditbirth fags still seething about selling less and losing all its awards to metakino
You love to see it
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>>738152154
Elves and cat people aren't real there's no need to feel threatened by them
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Third world countries getting so up and arms over this game only to get completely drowned out by all the heaps of praise being thrown at it is probably one of the more memorable things to happen on /v/ in years
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>>738137672
the hat stays on
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>>738133290
more serious answer than the thread deserves
>nonexistent characters all of who exist solely to exposit the games themes and rarely ever feel like actual characters
>bland boring world that exists simply to screech about racism and never once feels organic or interesting
>HORRID pacing that makes persona 5 look punchy and fast paced
>garbage gameflow and progression
>70+ hours when most of it is bloat, failing to learn the lessons from persona 5's biggest issue

the game is the perfect embodiment of what happens when THEME is placed above all else. you get a bland boring bloated mess. dropped it about twenty hours in and frankly I should've dropped it after the first two hours, it never rises or moves beyond its initial shallow themes.
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>>738153048
>more serious answer than the thread deserves
>screeches the same way he's been screeching the entire time but he's upset he's getting made fun of by everyone now so he's giving up
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>>738133290
What big moments didn't fall flat? I had absolutely zero sense of drama during the Rella shit for example. The plot just isn't put together very well at all and everything feels de rigueur, while all the mechanics are just warmed over Persona so that's not interesting either. I'm not some console warrior or anything I just see why it didn't set the world on fire.
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>>738137590
the only difference is that most dungeons are dogshit because there's more of them. like in a fantasy world with made up races there's only one nonhuman like teddy and kormaru and morgana.
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>>738153343
>most dungeons are dogshit because there's more of them
what a quintessential persona fan thing to say
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>>738133290
I still think about Hulky's toes.

>>738134219
Anyone who's played Metaphor knows that score is outrageous, though.
It was a solid 8.5 at best.
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>>738133290
I have woke fatigue.
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>>738133290
never understood what was supposed to be so good here
its just persona, i guess if you have weird friends you can talk to them about this game without them jumping down your throat about first world controversies like dating the wrong pixels
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I have the same person replying to OP over and over fatigue
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>>738133486
This. I'm mad that I bought Persona 5 and I can't even port over saves to Royal. I sure as hell didn't buy it twice.
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Metaphor is the closest thing to a playable anime series, Louis is that classic anime villain that always outsmarts you at every turn while also looking like a prettyboy model.
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>>738133486
>Atlus says they're going to stop doing this
>NOOOOOO BUT I WANT IT I WON'T BUY IT UNLESS YOU DO IT ATLUS
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>>738153673
They should be doing expansion packs and free "service" patches if they're not going to do the standalone expansion pack overhaul thing though
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How can anything better come after him as a villain
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>>738153520
Royal is a different game it changed a ton of things both in gameplay and story.
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The only reason it reviewed so well is because of the heavy handed muh racism is bad messaging

the games quality drops in the second half
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>>738153919
Because he wasn't that good of a villain? He had potential, but they kinda shit the bed with him in the last third of the game.
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>>738154005
nope
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>>738153919
They do literally the same character except he also fucks bitches only thing I can think of
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>>738154217
or they just genderbent him as his long lost sister
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>>738133290
this game is exactly what you get when you remove the waifufaggotrism, the gay colors and the cringe engrish music from a Persona game, just a mid RPG
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>>738133290
They lectured the audience. Never lecture the audience. Also I really don't think that fantasy fans want to hear about how much fantasy worlds would suck compared to our world.
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>>738136718
And then we added it back.
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the story is just kind of bland, no character stands out besides louis and he isn't groundbreaking if you've seen any pseudo political anime in your life. The combat was well made but that's basically it.
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>>738136718
>hulk's butt
it's over...
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>>738133290
Despite the gaslighting to the contrary it was woke, also no romance
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They should have made it gory and violent. Hieronymus Bosch surreal horror monsters (plus brutally generic fantasy like MMO dragons) in what is overall a bloodless cartoon Persona tone was a mistake.
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>>738133290
Games woke, you play as a shitskin, the villian is a blonde haired blue eyed white guy and it's just persona 5 but without the school setting and waifus or dating sim shit aka the only shit anyone liked about persona 5.
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>>738133290
It was a mediocre formulaic Persona 5 clone with bad graphics and a poorly executed story.
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wokeslop made to destroy the white race
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>>738153919
>another survival of the fittest retard
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>>738133290
It's a game that /v/ hated prior to release, on release, and still now very far post release.
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>>738160747
>my opinions represent /v/ as a whole
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>>738133290
You clearly remember OP
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>>738137686
Little nigger got humbled the fuck out kek
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>he's still bumping his thread
absolutely pathetic
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>>738137686
KWAB
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>>738133507
>expedition 33 out of nowhere
What causes this obsession?
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>>738156189
mod name?
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>>738133290
>woke
>ugly
>AI generated art
I have zero idea how this or e33 caught on
was it just bots
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>>738161312
Sexy Hulkenbody. The author of that mod has ones for the other girls too.
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>>738144471
>Just saying, a site that's predominantly autistic males, I find it exceedingly unnatural for a bunch of grown ass men to act like teen girls
Literally go to /vt/ right now you absolute retard.
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>>738136820
>changed the industry
>revitalized non weeaboos to an old genre
beyond based desu
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>>738161398
>woke
wrong
>ugly
Its a little bland at times, but not ugly at all
>AI generated art
Complete lie.
What do Anti-Metaphor troons insist on lying constantly?
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>>738161503
>3/3 coping lies
amazing post, well done
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It was good. Everything post Opera house was rushed though
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>>738161525
Not everything you dislike is AI, retard-kun.
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>>738133290
they made this instead of persona 6, which is what people actually wanted

if this was really good then maybe more people would have been interested, but Atlus have never been great at making actually good games
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>>738161405
thanks
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>>738161684
everything persona is however
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>this is the political persona with le deep insights
>racism....is....le bad
wowwwwww
dropped
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>>738162070
>I played 5 minutes
The game is more about what to look for in a ruler, autist-kun.
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>what if persona 5 but even more boring and with an even worse cast
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>>738133290
It was boring ugly garbage
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>>738133507
E33 was absolute dogshit
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>>738133290
a lot more grinding than Atlus' previous games (P5 and SMT5). honestly the only thing stopping me from trying to play this game again is having to grind the archetype tokens
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>>738146196
2.0 was started by Dragon Quest IV. Everything else since then has been derivative of that game. You are argue games like FFVII is better but they are NOT a paradigm shift from DQIV gameplay loop. Just evolutions of it.

The one which was a paradigm shift from DQIV was Persona 3 so Hashino already invented JRPG 3.0.
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>let's make this fucked up world where everything sucks for the common people
>someone steps in and says the system needs to change and is going about it in questionable ways but compared to what's been allowed he makes a point
>whoops can't have a morally gray villain, time to make him want to turn everyone into monsters to get rid of inequality
>oh also you're the prince so at the end of the day the old system is still in place
Still a fun game to play and the characters are entertaining. While the time system does provide some good decision making it hurts the narrative.
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Still refuse to buy it and waiting for a deluxe edition to come out
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>>738163165
My arms dealer sugar mommy wife...
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The game sucked but at least they allowed you to side with the good guy ultimately.
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>>738133290
I’m still mad it completely falls apart after the opera house
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>>738163420
Haven't played this game. Don't tell me he's a discounted Griffith?
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I played my first Atlus game this year and it was Persona 5 Royal. I really enjoyed the whole jungian thing, the slice of life and the enviroments/worlds/castles way more than the 4 niggas in a line combat which was just find out weakness and find way to repeatedly spam those skills. The buff skills all had wacky names which was hard for me to memorize and identify at a glance so I just used Ryuji's thing to level myself in dungeons to make combat easier. I loved the personas and was kinda disappointed you discard Arsene within like 2 hours since his into was cool.

What am I in for with Metaphor Refantazio?
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>>738165032
discount Wesker pretending he's a discount Reinhard
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>>738133290
It sucked.
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>>738133507
E33fags are a bunch of mentally ill troons
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>>738165032
Discount Reinhard
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>>738137903
FFfags hate JRPGs. They only like FF and maybe DQ. They hate SMT, they hate XenoGears/Saga/Blade they hate Tales of, they hate Phantasy Star, they hate any new IP, they hate Trails, they hate Ys, they hate Mana, they tolerate Chrono Trigger but hate Chrono Cross. What do these niggers actually play besides Final Fantasy?
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>>738133290
Easily the most obnoxious OST I've ever heard. You cant even hear the characters while the music insists upon itself. Drakengard's OST comes off as fine art (because it is) compared to this pretentious garbage.
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>>738165608
There's a schizo who says this about every game. Either post proof (you cannot because it isn't true) or shut the fuck up.
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>>738133290
flopped and shitted
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>>738133290
Get woke go broke
Metaphor shill troons lost
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>>738165032
He’s just another atlus antagonist that goes full chaosfag at the end
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If you want make a game for western, just outsource it to western dev.
They hate the idea that you pretend to know about them, and it's rude.
you got it? eastern caveman-kun
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>>738137686
lmfao
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>>738133290
Makes me a bit sad how little love and care went into the 3D models of the game compared to the great 2D art.
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>>738133350
Came here for this, the amount of sex and foot sex I would have with Gallica would kill me in a couple of days
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>>738133290
Honestly I'm just waiting for Metaphor Royal. Never buy the first version of Fatlus games because you'll have to pay full price for it again when the improved version comes out.
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the only part of this game that sucked was that I couldn't have Catherine in my party, but everything else was fun as fuck
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>>738133486
>>738133507
>Expedition 33 & Metaphor
just but them on Switch 2 and I will get them
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Still outsold Slopbirth.
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>>738163386
same, if they eventually did that for SMT it's also 100% expected there. It took around 3 years before base SMT V and Vengeance so it's just a game of patience before it happens
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>>738153048
It's genuinely impressive how unbelievably wrong every single point in this dog shit retard post is. Simply the pacing one alone is a joke it's so wrong. Metaphor's speedy pacing is why it's better than basically every Persona game.
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>>738133519
lmao the characters are much better than the characters in P5
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>>738137045
No because the social sim elements are a very small aspect of the game while the combat is more complex and difficult than Persona 5 for a casual player.
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>>738135743
Why is her head so fucking big
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>>738169285
>improved
Only if you think a 100+ hour RPG actually needs more content.
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>>738173873
Yeah. I do actually. The back half of the game was severely lacking in content.
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>>738174117
I had just enough time to do everything with less than a week to spare before the final dungeon, the timeline is too tight to add much more content.
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>>738174307
Nigga you had a whole ass week of free time without trying to optimize. You know you usually can only barely do all the social links in these games WITH an optimization guide, right? That's plenty of time to slap a dungeon into the academy section and add an endgame bonus dungeon or two.
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>>738133290
Because everything about persona is actually ass and the only part people actually like is the teen romance. Take that away and you have nothing
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>>738174781
>add an endgame bonus dungeon or two.
It already has all those dungeons with the level 70 dragon bosses and an even harder one exclusive to NG+
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>>738174975
>copy pasted towers that you already visited and cleared out earlier in the game anyway
Those barely count as dungeons or bonus bosses for that matter.
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>>738133290
it just wasnt very good outside of a few memorable sections and scenes.
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>>738133350
fpbp
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>>738133290
I chose to play SMT VV that year instead.
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>>738133290
No fanservice
>>738133507
If youre retarded and also gay
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>>738133290
Boring, meandering slop, that was supposed to be a celebration of all of Atlus' works, at which it failed miserably. A culmination of RPGs, most of which have unique systems, yet what actually went into the game were the worst of those.
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>>738133787
>you didn't like P5?
>have you tried P5 with 20 more hours stapled on?
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>>738133290
idk i dropped it right after getting the mask gimmick girl, just wasn't grabbing me
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>>738134009
Here he is >>738166030
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>>738137903
I'm an FFfag, and I loved E33. I hate Metaphor tho. E33 had a fuckin' overworld. I was so damn happy.
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>>738133290
I hate the persona calendar system. The combat is really good, but it´s very limited by the fact you can only battle a few days per month
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>>738171937
Thats not saying much. P5 cast is by far most weakest of all persona games.
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>>738153673
>they say
>the company that remakes 20 year odl games and doesn't even include all the available content in the base pack
There will 100% be a 'GOTY' version of Metaphor, I'm waiting for that
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>>738134219
I do think E33 was overrated but
>actual creative game with new ideas
vs
>recycled weeb shit

it never was close between these two.
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>>738133290
It just wasn’t that good, unfortunately.

>>738133507
This game wasn’t very good either, but definitely better.
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>>738133290
woke slop. trannies moved on to their discord, chuds moved on to different games
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Metaphor was way better than Persona
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>>738134219
Picrel still making retards mad I see.
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>>738180271
bad games don't make /v/ mad anymore. people liking good games is what makes /v/ mad now. remind them that e33 or metaphor got any positive feedback at all and they'll lose it.
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>>738165107
>he discarded Arsene
Sounds like a (You) problem
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>>738133290
I wish I fucking knew anon I beat this game and almost never thinking about it. I enjoyed it most of the way through too
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>>738133290

The Persona formula was never that good and they just keep reusing it instead of trying to improve things.
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>>738133290
The game is genuinely ugly and impossible to play for longer than 15 minutes.
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>>738136438
Okay well first they have to stop making the same fucking game all the time cause Metaphor is literally Persona. They didn't change shit, the decade they spent on it doesn't reflect at all. It's the same fucking game all over again and as someone who was eager for Atlus to do something new, Metaphor was a disappointment.

Also the characters were all flat except for maybe Heismay. Even still.

Atlus has no new ideas.
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>it's too bad utopia doesn't exist. Sadly, we're ruled by a monarch
>monarch is dead, prince is asleep
>no no we want the prince back we want to protect the royal bloodline because uh we just do okay
>this bad guy wants a meritocracy and for every species to have a place in the new world...which is bad because uh we have to save the prince okay we don't like that guy
>guess what you were the prince all along
>no one is voting for you go kill the bad guy
Christ almighty you can tell Japan wrote this retarded shit
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>>738182126
Japan will never write anything truly woke because they will never let go of the retarded believe in the royal blue blood shit that a lot of people in the west also believe in but enough are willing to call it out as nonsense. They will never let go though because not only do they like it, but they really believe in it. Your lineage will magically make you objectively better and more important than everyone else in every way and that's that. But it's completely at odds with any kind of woke message you might want to spread.
You can't do a story about racism being bad while also having some people being unquestionably more valuable than others as divine birthright.
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>>738174117
Half of 100 hours is 50 hours, so the back half had 50 hours of content.
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>this thread is still here
>was very obviously bumped through the night by the same person probably while at work
kek
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>>738137903
Nigga the only way you can make metaphor relevant is to pretend FF fags are after you
Notice how you fear any metaphor and E33 comparison same reason tendies fear comparisons with Elden Ring
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>>738183150
And now you just posted again so that guy won.
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>>738137903
Stop regurgitating the word hellscape. It hasn't sounded clever in a long time.
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>>738183150
Everyone is well aware of his antics by now >>738134009
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>>738133290
>Metaphor thread
>Everyone immediately talks about E33 or FF instead
Game's so boring it gets forgotten in its own threads
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>>738133290
>start the game
>feel the time limits
>get a bit bored
>stop playing

Think I'm just over the persona approach to gameplay structure
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I've never tried it because you people keep telling me it's woke
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>>738181515
They literally made several good QoL improvements to the SL system and the gameplay has no fusion autism in it. Why do half you fags pretend youve played the game when you clearly havent?
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>>738183940
Sure is, you should also hammer your nuts and slit your own wrists.
Who the fuck admits to being force fed an opinion on a game you can "try"
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>>738184007
My time is precious, I can't just try games left and right.
And truth be told once I saw Hulkenbergs ass, I didn't want to play the game.
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>>738183216
>makes shit up
There are like 3 schizos that spam the absolute fuck out of these threads because they cant stand Metaphor for whatever fucking reason. The people that would populate these threads for gameplay arent here any more because the game is single played and everything has been said. You know, like how E33 threads are 99% shitposting now too for the exact same reasons. To begin with, why do you think its impossible to like both fucking games? Ive played and liked both. Only you retards that are obsessed with pseudo console war shit do this. Its obnoxious and its tiring to correct every retarded post made by people who very obviously havent even played the fucking game.

99.9% of people who played metaphor doesnt have a beef with FF or fucking E33 like you fags try to force. I would say 80%+ also played those games too. Get a fucking life.
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>>738165107
Metaphor is literally just Persona but not as a high school simulator. Social links, deadlines for clearing out dungeons, etc etc
If you enjoyed P5R you will absolutely enjoy Metaphor though
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>>738133290
A lot of Final Faggotroon cope.
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>>738187193
makes me laugh every time
just pathetic
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>atlus prioritize fujo pandering by having a gay looking twink MC and not letting you romance the fairy
>game fails
Sucks it happened, but you're seeing more and more fujoshit stuff flopping (like FFXVI and the remakes) so maybe nips will stop being so fucking gay.
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I didn't play Metaphor solely because I didn't find the females as enticing as the Persona ones and there are no romances
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>>738183817
>the same cope everytime
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>>738183216
>pretend
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>>738187193
Holy based. 7R slaps E33 and Metaphor just for not have turn-cringe combat. It had the most sex appeal too. I don't care if the swimsuits in E33 are "period accurate" they are grandma tier
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>>738134009
here he is again >>738188391 >>738187193
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>>738133507
Metaphor doesn’t have a parry button. You have to trivialize the game with good builds like a normal game
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It's 2026 and he's still pretending metaphor flopped lmao
Even your steam community threads called you out on this shit
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>>738188391
Don't you have a dead Aerith thread to necrobump?
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waiting for the switch 2 edition, trying to avoid spoilers/discussions
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>>738188952
have you played ff7?
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>>738133290
It's just another nu-Persona reskin, this time without the shitty dating sim. Unfortunately for Atlus, it turned out that the shitty dating sim is the only reason why people play nu-Persona.
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>>738137497
Technically speaking it's "remake" is magnitudes more juvenile.
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>>738189041
>the shitty dating sim is the only reason why people play nu-Persona
>15 minutes content in a 150 hours game is the only reason why people play it
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/v/ never talks about metaphor, but /v/ talks about how shit ffviir is every single day. this proves metaphor lost and viir won (somehow)
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>>738189148
I'm so tired, bros
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>>738133350
This
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>>738133290
No fairy sex
Lost my sale immediately
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there are two reasons I never played it past the demo
>no romances
>eye-bleedingly awful texture work
so those, for me
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>>738133290
It had good combat which Persona fans dont care about and SMT fags who would've liked the combat avoided it because they thought they would get Persona. And then the characters where boring which is why the Personafags stayed away too
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>>738133290
It genuinely was pretty mediocre, i dont think it beat FFVII rebirth in any department.
Rebirth had better music, better more entertaining story, better characters, better graphics and better combat
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>>738160907
I don't think you looked at anons image
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>>738161405
>The author of that mod has ones for the other girls too.
>no eupha
Lame
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the game fucking sucked and all criticism was equated to "you're just racist"
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>>738133290
the games fun, not replayable at all and the archetype system is a bit annoying...dungeons were not very fun but thats something Atlus has never done well imo

also kinda a dumb message
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>>738133507
I thought E33 had better combat, but outside of the genuinely amazing prologue I much prefer Metaphor's story because it doesn't invalidate all the characters it actually spent time developing for the final act.
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>>738133290
But I see people here talking about it ever other day
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>>738193761
>because it doesn't invalidate all the characters it actually spent time developing for the final act.
which character is important during the final act? being there doesnt make them important
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>>738133486
At this point I don't really expect them to. There's some obvious late-game areas they could flesh out in the story, but there's been zero teaser of them planning to do so
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Do you think they'll make a Metaphor: Alliterrated simile edition or is it safe to buy now?
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People wanted P6 and got something that wasn't P6 instead. Reload did well because a lot of people had wanted to play P3 but couldn't play the original due to getting filtered by various reasons. Revival will do well as well since P4 is basically the fan favourite and will therefore garner a lot of sales because of that. Metaphor was just, well, nothing special. It didn't really do anything. Plus, it looks like shit. I didn't even finish it lmao
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>>738193815
As my first act as King of Euchronia, I decree Brigitta Lycaon and Eiselin Burchelli Meijal von Hulkenberg will give me daily nursing HJs.
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>>738194223
What about the other girls
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To me it was very bland experience
Generic atlus rpg with some qol to combat(that 1 hit kill system for weak enemies was good, did they steal it from hentai games?)
Characters look kinda dumb(except for pixie) but their writing is worse
I kinda liked that smug bat creature and everyone else was just BORING
If you never played fatlus games i can see you liking it but for me it's just another fodder in trough
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>>738194356
Future decrees will be issued at my discretion as the mood strikes my fancy.
That is all.
Begone.
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>>738169616
This, just put them on the console.
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>>738195249
I hate his whote hair.
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>>738165387
troons hate it because it's white and straight
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Strohl is my nigga
Also, I respect not having most of the dub cast be shitter American "Voice actors"
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>>738133290
Boring story and shit pacing
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>>738193879
Hulk is my biggest disappointment in the game. She's such a basic 2010s WRPG strong female character where she's just a woman written as a man.
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>>738193819
All of them, they win thanks to the power of friendship
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>>738194007
I think they won't for this one. They're giving up on the Metaphor IP.
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fun fact: if metaphor refantazio had let you romance hulkenberg, and just included one or two tasteful shots of her spread open vagina or one or two pre and post coitus hymen shots, some say it would have been recognized as one of the great rpgs of its time.
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Still not on switch or s2. Thats thr core of jrpg players right there



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