See those mountains?
there's a korok seed at the top
>>738135739kek
>>738135667Yes
>>738135781No you don't. They're obscured by anti soul gas
>>738135667I view BotW as proto-Elden Ring. Has the same emphasis on freedom and discovery, only Elden Ring completely blows it out of the water by actually filling the vast world with content, impressive enemy variety and tons of large unique dungeons to explore.
>>738135912Elden Ring has absolutely NONE of BotW complex game design - you know, the hard part.BotW has more gameplay variety in its tutorial than Elden Ring has in its entirety.
>>738135667IT'S BAD BECAUSE I DON'T GO INTO THE [COLOR CODED DUNGEON] WHERE I GET THE SQUARE PEG TOOL TO USE ON THE SQUARE HOLE PUZZLES AND THEN STUN THE BOSS LIKE THE SHITTY GAME I PLAYED WHEN I WAS 8 DURING MY FORMATIVE YEARS WHILE MY PARENTS WERE FIGHTING IN THE NEXT ROOMThere you go, I just saved you the trouble of the entire thread.
>>738136093Stop being hyperbolic. Criticizing nu-zelda doesn't mean we have to completely revert to old-zelda
>>738136045No one gives a shit. Elden Ring's combat system shits all over BotW. Better to do one thing really, really well than a plethora of things merely adequately. When it comes to the actual layout of the open world and offering a sense of discovery, nothing comes close to Elden Ring.
>>738136253BotW's combat is the weakest part of the game and very simplistic, but ER's combat is some of the worst Fromsoft has made. The fact that anyone pretends it's good, especially after having followed up Sekiro is insane.>When it comes to the actual layout of the open world and offering a sense of discovery, nothing comes close to Elden Ring.Oh never mind. You're genuinely too stupid to talk about game design on any level.
>all the posts are just seething about ERkek why are tendies so mindbroken?
>>738135912Except exploration in Elden Ring fucking sucks, because best case scenario you get a weapon that you will NEVER use because your build is probably already set in stone, or it has a terrible moveset or whatever, and worst case is you get some crafting mat that you also will never use.
>>738136383That's retarded. You can't just jump genres and make a stupid comparison. ER's combat is better than any other open world game. Besides Sekiro is too one note, its combat system wouldn't fit ER.Don't beat yourself up. No one can defend the empty expanse of flat nothingness that is BotW's open world.
>>738135739Better then some fucking leaf that you will never actually do anything with
People who complain about Zelda's simple combat don't realize that it is the game's strong-suit. While every other game focuses on time-wasting simon-says parryslop, Zelda focuses on distance, movement, and environment. If you change the environment, then you have to think of different approaches. But if a game has parryslop, it becomes a solved game where you just walk up to the enemy and wait for the signal.Unfortunately BotW added parryslop as well which ruined the game. When I found out I could parry guardian beams they immediately became a non-threat. When I realized I could dodge a Lynel and enter bullet-time, they became a non-threat. I fucking hate parryslop so much.
>>738136716>ER's combat is better than any other open world game.Even the bamham style combat of the Shawdow or Morder games is better because the enemies have real AI. ER combat is like a parody of all the worst parts of Dark Souls combat stuck together. It has a bunch of individual parts, but all of them are shallow and none of them interact with each other.
>>738135667An open world game without toilets is fucking stupid. You're telling me you can climb a mountain, but you can't even take a simple piss? What a fucking joke.
>>738136253The absolute state. Its funny watching BotW still making schizos shit themselves a decade later.
>>738136580Compared to fucking BotW ER is the absolute exemplar of rewarding exploration. What are we even talking about? And your build is not set in stone, you can respec in ER and allocate your stats differently. Besides there is more to exploration than just some shitty item you get at the end. ER is a kind of game where while you are exploring a city, you can descend down a ladder from some unassuming well which then expands to a massive secret underground dungeon complete with shortcuts, bosses, and even more secrets. This is far more rewarding than whatever the fuck exists in BotW.
>>738137135Roll slop. Elden Ring will always be laughably inferior to BotW. Keep seething for another decade.
>>738136908The problem with botw combat is that previous games already had a pretty interesting combat systems that had a lot of potential. TP's system had so much that could have been expanded upon that was wasted because of how piss easy it was. Instead of trying to build off of that they just replaced it with some basic shit where the only thing that really matters is how much damage your weapon does. Which seems to be an attempt to encourage different approaches to enemy encounters like using bombs, arrows, or sheikah slate abilities. But it just makes actual combat feel like a chore.
>>738137296>The problem with botw combat is thatit's shit
>>738136045>Elden Ring has absolutely NONE of BotW complex game design - you know, the hard part.I remember seething previews of lightning storms in Elden Ring and be really excited. Then I played the final game and was utter crushed to find out they were nothing. Just window dressing. The world was completely dead and sterile and nothing like BotW. In BotW when the player hears the distant rumble of thunder they actually feel fear, because they know what's coming. And the entire world and gameplay and mechanics change dynamically. Elden Ring is literally baby-tier in comparison design-wise.
>>738137050You should climb the mountain to make it rain on the plebs bellow
>>738135667>See those mountains?I see one of them and a bunch of hills
>>738136908>When I found out I could parry guardian beams they immediately became a non-threat. When I realized I could dodge a Lynel and enter bullet-time, they became a non-threat.Yup, the only small hitch I experienced was getting used to the super fucked up timing where you have to parry when the attack BEGINS rather than when it LANDS (or would have landed). Once you realize that, it becomes piss easy because the timing literally never changes and you enter bullet time for like 15 years before the enemy's weapon even comes close to you.
>>738135667>See those mountains?yes?
>>738135667Why did he turned Link into a massive faggot?
>>738137162SoVl
>>738137395>n BotW when the player hears the distant rumble of thunder they actually feel fear,I don't feel fear just annoyance.>Thunder storm>Better take my metal stuff off because LOL LIGHTNINGFUCK Breath of the Wild and TOTK, garbage ass games.
>>738137858He did not direct BOTW
>>738135667>You could climb them.. But your stamina wheel won't let you.
>>738135739Like the cherry on top of the fun you have climbing it :)
>>738135739fpbp
My main problem with BoTW isn't even the open world, it's the world, characters, story and dialogue fucking sucks, I'm completely uninterested in this iteration of Link
>>738138765It had the most developed characters and side quests in the series by far. English voices suck, but those are irrelevant. And only retarded monkeys get mad at non-linear story telling.
>>738135667the game doesn't look like that
>>738139040''developed'' doesn't make it interesting or goodand for thinking so you are a 5 year old child mentally
>>738139484You're browm
>>738139665but enough about your stepdad
I started playing on friday night and it's a lot of funIt reminds me a lot of running around Gransys in DD1 which was unironically my favorite part
>>738139484>''developed'' doesn't make it interesting or goodYou're a fucking idiot and that's a pathetic attempt at trying to take your worthless "subjective" opinion on it and pretend it's a real criteria.>>738139665He could just be regular retarded, like most millennial tendies.
>>738135667You can climb it and that's really it. lol!!!!!!
>>738140843it's objectively badly written, generic disney-like insipid characters and storybut I understand a subhuman like you would be angered by this fact because you can't appreciate any better
>>738141164and just for comparison, not it's not because it's a''zelda game'' OoT and MM are not like this
>>738135667>Holy heckarino I can climb it
I just got a Switch 2 and I have the online expansion pack so I got the upgrades for BotW and TotK too. Should I replay BotW first or jump straight into TotK?
>>738139341This piss filter really ruins the game and I still haven't seen any mod that fixes it. I have very little hope that the Switch2 Zelda will look better. This is just a standard of all modern games now. They choose this.
>>738140707>we will never get a game like DD1 but bigger and with BotW's environmental interactionsIt hurts to live.
>>738141164>>738141415>I'm an N64baby and you should take my opinion on writing in fiction seriouslyNo thanks. Young millennial tendies who grew up on the N64 have the most absolute dogshit taste imaginable. Nothing you ever say about anything will matter, and you have less than no taste when it comes to game design or writing.
>>738141628epic strawman retard, but I literally played them for the first time in recent through the PC ports lolyou really just are a projecting subhuman with zero taste
>>738141767>I'm totally master race!Sure thing, tendie. I believe you.
>>738141912I'm not ''master race'', I like the convenience of consoles, I just never had a Nintendo system in my life since I could just emulate everything I had interest inthis is just sad at this point
>>738141912You're brown
>>738142119>I grew up on sega/playstation but the shitty N64 games that only people who grew up on them deify are actually awesomeSure thing, tendie.
>>738142218Sorry thirdie, but no.
>Sure thing, tendie.
>>738142270Imagine having wojaks saved on your computer.
>Imagine having wojaks saved on your computer.
>>738135667Holy fuck, abreath of the Wild is immersive as fuck!!!
>>738135912>>738136045Both are bad.Linear Zelda and linear Souls shit on both. Open World is simply bad for franchises not designed around it.
>>738142690Linear Zelda is shit.
>>738135739I kekd hard. God bless you anon.
>>738137162was an absolute joy to climb these
>>738135667No one cares about shrine hunter 2017 anymore. Botw fags have lost.
>>738139341Unlike shitter games, BotW has a dynamic weather system so mist and fog haze appear according to the climate.It's shame other games can't be this well-designed.
>>738135739I wouldn't be surprised if that's applicable to at least one of those specific mountains.
>>738143327Daily reminder that TotK Switch 2 Edition was the highest rated game of 2025.BotW Switch 2 Edition was 2nd.Seethe forever lmao
>>738144490>try to climb mountain in any other game>can't
>>738135739>Kill Hestunax
>>738142690>Open World is simply bad for franchises not designed around it.Zelda was always imagined as an open world adventure from the very first game. And BotW /TotK are not only the most successful games in the Zelda series, they're also two of the most overwhelmingly universally acclaimed games of all time. Stay mad.
>>738136205Yes we do, because Nu Zelda just isn't really Zelda.
>>738145126I agree. OoT was never really Zelda.
>>738145126>Nu Zelda just isn't really ZeldaBotW/TotK are more true to the concept of Zelds than any game in the series. I'm so glad Nintendo saved this series from the linear shite it turned into during the 90s/00s. Feels good knowing we're never ever going back to that shite.
No, I can't. I was born blind.
>>738145247Trying too hard.
>>738137858>male character makes me feel funny inside therefore he's attracted to malesLeast closeted nu-/v/ zoomzoom
>>738135912That's funny, because I look at Elden Ring as open world Dark Souls shit.
>>738136908Skyward Sword already had the most in depth parry slop in any video game, and it filtered the shit out of people.
>>738145247Every time you stop and take in the scene in Botw & Totk it's like a painting, it's so beautiful. It makes me feel a sense of yearning. The melancholia is real.
>>738144532Great and still no one cares anymore. People care more about OoT randomizers than korok hunter 2017. KEK
>>738149380>People care more about OoTJust trannies.
