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incredibly shitty

>>738136880
no

>>738136880
absolutely not
end game is still the same shit as the first couple of seasons
also the story is garbage filled with "remember diablo 2? remember diablo 3?"

>>738136880
Yes.

>>738136880
What a piece of shit. However, I’ve been enjoying D3

Best arpg now easily

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Do we get to F**K lilith????

>averaging 3.2mil daily peak CCU according to a friend who works for blizzard
>barely any convo here or on the rest of the internet
Huh, gamerdad normies really are offline aren't they?

>>738137150
From a sample size of what, D4, LE, and D1?

>>738137271
tell him to add rewatching cutscenes/listening to audiologs and replaying the campaign on any character like back in Diablo 3

>>738137838
He works for the BNet team, not the game-dev groups.

>>738136987
that looks like kino though

>>738137271
Probably bloated Chinese numbers.

>>738136880
never was, never will

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as it is grey, does this mean this does not work?

>>738136880
wake me up when I can grind shop currency through playing.

>>738139531
Could be.

>>738140062
it's unbelievable they managed to convince people to pay full sticker for a game with mtx and a battlepass lmao

>>738136880
Nah, story was shit and I got to T8 all 900 ilvl in one day.

>>738136880
Always been...

>going the WoW route of "buying current expansion gives you previous expansions, and owning previous expansions does not discount current expansion at all"
incredible stuff

>>738137238
yeah she's literally begging for you to impale her with your bone its the climax of the story

It always been fun.
The problem is that miserable gamers play these games by themselves, reducing the overall fun of all these games.

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>179.00GB Required

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I win.

>>738140928
thats only for 4k textures, otherwise its 'only' 90gb.

>>738136880
It's in a very weird spot where most of the systems and mechanics now are pretty decent, but the actual content you are doing for the endgame activities is so fucking boring that you're just sprinting through everything and blasting everything with 1 button with zero thought put into anything.

Uber Mephisto is pretty much the only aspirational content in the entire game. They desperately need to have more aspirational stuff that's hard to get to and hard to complete as well.

>>738140989
You can't choose to not install them on that menu, you can only tell it to not make a desktop shortcut

>>738140928
>>738140989
holy bloatware batman. shameless

The bigger question is if the Warlock class is worth buying D2 again for?

i refunded after learning they cut content and paywalled it , 1/3rd of all base class skill trees were paywalled.
fuck that shit

>>738141008
yeah it looks like you can't, but you can. i can't remember what i clicked but i was able to do it, i was a bit flabbergasted at the size when i saw that (giggity).

>>738141120
What are you talking about?

Nope. In fact every ARPG made after Diablo 1 is completely pointless. The genre peaked there and then. None of them have improved the gameplay loop while failing to match the art/atmosphere/music, and sense of progression down towards hell.

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>>738141120
>this is the first thing I see on the D4 Steam review page
sad

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>>738141236
I liked Marvel Heroes though, it was literally just Diablo 2 with Marvel characters

>>738141236
D2 was an improvement over D1 in every single way, except the atmosphere/horror.

>>738140974
Is that normal or Uber Mephisto
If it’s the latter, genuinely well done he’s hard as fuck

>>738137780
It beats the shit out of PoE2 easily right now. PoE1 is still the King.

>>738141063
nope. it's slop. play project diablo 2 or meridian xl if you feel the d2 itch

>>738141459
>It beats the shit out of PoE2 easily right now
In 1 month PoE2 will likely beat it, assuming that they aren't going to drop the ball like crazy on their huge endgame overhaul.

>>738140928
>About 100x the size of D2+LoD (slightly more i think)
Guess it must be 100x better

>>738141201
look at the skill trees of base classes
see all the "must buy the expansion to unlock" skills in your skill tree

>>738141678
Do you have a screenshot?

>>738141678
I am more confused about your statement about how you were going to buy the expansion, but then your reasoning for refunding was because of "paywalled" content, but that wouldn't affect you in any way because you were already buying the expansion.

Or were you just lying and you never actually intended to purchase the expansion in the first place?

>>738141243
holy shit I didn't know their milking became this blatant. blizzard customers are undeniably, inexolabry, unequivocally THE raped

>>738136880
Diablo is the Lord of Terror. Why would you play a game that doesn't even know the title if it's own antagonist?

>>738141547
Has PoE2 a character creator?

>>738141459
I'd rather play current iteration of PoE2 for $30 than Shitblow 4 even if I got it for free.

>>738141120
>new skill variations are clearly cut content despite the fact they came out 3 years later

>>738141459
The Diablo franchise hasnt beaten POE since Diablo2 LOD, so basically never because that was before POE came out. Every iteration of D3 and D4 have been dogshit

I want to be a paladin

Put 50hrs to my paladin, it's pretty good.

>>738141243
kek
so many valid reason to shit on blizz yet you still get absolute arse pulling retards like this, its hysterical.
you can just filter the blues if you aren't going to cube craft with them, and it's like <1/20th of all the loot they shower you with.
they make it sound like rares etc don't drop and you HAVE to cube craft. what a deranged fucking moron lmao

>>738136880
Why is Diablo beef jerky now?

>>738137838
>replaying the campaign on any character like back in Diablo 3
What does this even mean?

>>738139782
there is nothing grey in that picture.

>>738141243
What the fuck is he on about, legendaries and uniques drop like candy in this game, I've never used the cube to upgrade item tiers, must be a Tencent agent.

>>738136880
Its more diablo 4, but slightly improved. Warplans dont really change endgame and skill tree rework while a good try, is still laughable.
Story keeps degrading, if you care about that, just dont play it.

>>738141243
I mean, hes not wrong. They even locked the 3rd skill choice for og classes if you dont own the expansion.

Nope.

>>738141243
Kek what a broke boy nigger

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>>738136880
D4 BAD
SHITABLO

>>738143258
>Steam

>>738143315
>still needs a Bnet account to play

>>738141279
>look at steam page
>650 in-game
how?

>>738140928
tick the option to not install 4k textures

>>738144176
There's a private server - https://mhreborn.com/

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>>738136880
It's the best game of the genre in the market currently, yes

inb4 Poetroons
PoE beats it ONLY for a few types of players: the autistic enough to be really invested into actually playing with the systems that PoE has

for the vast majority, that just mindlessly follows guides, D4 post-LOH offers everything PoE has with less tediousness and less jankiness and less bullshit

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>>738136880
If you liked D3 yes, it's a proper sequel to D3 now. If you did not like D3 no. If you are poor no.
I am having fun thoughbeit.

>>738136880
Always was. But yes, it's still the best ARPG on the market.

>>738144793
>reddit spacing
>shamelessly shills nublizz sloppa
>brings up poe out of nowhere
like in clockwork lmao

>>738141937
no, retard, actually they took existing skills and paywalled them

>>738145007
you retarded faggots dont understand we got extensions that automatically do that shit
are you like a brain dead phone poster who has like ads still enabled on youtube ?

>>738144793
I hate bullshit like PoE. ARPG character advancement systems peaked with Diablo 3: Reaper of Souls. Clear, impactful choices, which you could change at any time.

>>738144837
They can’t make necromancer classes viable in these types of games. We’ve literally never had necromancer be the best class, simply because ai is so unreliable that it’ll always preform worse. It’s also not even fun to play, it just seems like it would be cool but when you’re actually playing it, you realize something. Thats why, dude so listen to this. They often try to put all the damage into an active ability tied to a bigger summon, but that’s not even a necromancer anymore. Thats like a summoner, and summoner also is never good because it’s just a worse type of wizard, which also has to protect its pet. Look listen to me, listen to this part of my post. Necromancer classes have literally always suffered from the same exact problems since day 1 in the 1980s when they were doing tabletop. Theres literally no solution to these problems. Im not even sure how necromancy keeps making it into games, it’s a worthless class.

>>738145112
ebin spergout redditor

>>738145228
oh you sure got me, thatll fix diablo 4, saying reddit over and over

>>738145206
What a weird post. I just press 2 and all my skelemans target what I am pointing at.
I am in T9, but farming T8. Still barely geared.

>>738145269
>thatll fix diablo 4
there's no fixing what's fundamentally broken. it's built like a f2p mobile game while costing full sticker + dlc + tax + tip, has level scaling, has bottom of the barrel writing it forces you through, and is utter bloatware to boot

>>738136880
Transazons lmao
Blizz just can't help themselves

>>738141243
>mentions paywal

Stopped reading there. Nobody cares what poors think.

>>738141547
>assuming that they aren't going to drop the ball like crazy on their huge endgame overhaul

I would more surprised if they didn't drop the ball.

>>738136880
Its better than PoE2

>>738145426
>BKLALBHALBAHBLASHBLASLVBHALHJ
you sure told me faggot
better go kill yourself to make it concrete
you fucking loser

>>738137271
That would mean that the steam players are 1.5% of the Battlenet players.
Your friend is full of shit or you are.

>>738145524
They have already postponed it twice by now. Surely that's an indicator that it's going to be flawless and amazing when we finally get it. Right?

>>738145729
>That would mean that the steam players are 1.5% of the Battlenet players.
It's technically possible. They sold 10 million copies before the game came to Steam.

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>>738145362
Yeah that’s because you’re playing a bad class. Youll start to notice how shit the class is when you try to compete with another class. You’re in the weird honeymoon phase of gear grinding where you’re still charmed by new content. Once you start farming the game for real you’ll definitely hate playing necromancer. I played necromancer a few times and it’s always like complete shit. It’s extremely slow, first off. The DPS might be there eventually, but it’s going to take a long time. If it were not this way, you’d actually end up doing like 5 times more damage than any other class. So to actually make it somewhat even, necromancer always needs to essentially be like worthless. Theres no middle ground dude not when you have minions. You’re either worthless or you’re overpowered as fuck like literally doing 5 times more dps type of thing. I don’t think they’ll ever make a good necromancer class, so listen to me here. It is possible to make a good necromancer class in an arpg. However, they will need to change the foundation of gameplay mechanics. It is currently a fast paced gameplay style because it’s more entertaining that way. For necromancy to be competitive, they need to slow everything down. But that’s not usually how they make arpgs, like it’s not very fun. But its theorized that this type of slower gameplay style where encounters are significantly stronger, necromancer could be considered a good class. We’ve literally never had that type of game though.

>>738145750
Guarantee it was delayed so they could have the cash shop sorted. I bet everything else was done months ago.

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>>738141120
>I refunded because the people that did not buy LoH have no access to LoH features
wut?

I'm actually having fun for once. This skill tree is probably going to save their shit game.

>>738145873
I think you're just bad at building. I'm guessing you follow build guides which keep making "minion" builds which are actually just shadow builds with minions.
I am consistently the strongest in the groups I join, and that's just from standing around, before I spam my no-cooldown army of the dead, which buffs the shit out of my minions even further. I have 13 warriors cleaving for gorillians of damage, and frost mages instantly staggering bosses.

All my friends are playing it, I'm like the only one who isn't.
Makes me kind of want to join in but eh, the only Diablo game I played previously was D3 with friends, so don't know if I want to

>>738145873
Necromancers big thing is its ability to have what are essentially “party members”. So these are human bodies capable of tanking hits. But like I went over, tanking hits isn’t even an advantage. Because the game is designed where you other classes don’t need to tank hits either. So necromancer now has this huge advantage over everyone, but it’s not actually useful for anything. Just by default they can’t make that a useful ability. Games try to play up the afk aspect of summoned ai, for farming strategies. Because that’s the only thing it can do using the ai is it’ll play the game for you. But in Diablo you usually have to keep moving, there’s like niche places probably where you can afk farm, but it’s not like that important probably. We’ve definitely seen summoner classes make it in these games, like hunter classes where you have just one or two pets. Because putting half your dps into just one summon isn’t as difficult to balance. But a necromancer by default needs 20 minions at least, preferably closer to 80. It just doesn’t work, I’ve never seen it work and I’ve been in the industry a long time. Ive been playing every random game developers interpretation of what a necromancer class should be like, and it’s always just a worse wizard class. Just everything is worse every time.

>>738146392
I would be very surprised if D4's resurgence lasts more than another 2 weeks. At the end of the day the endgame is still pretty much identical. You're still doing the same shit, it's just a little bit more varied now by forcing people to do different stuff through war plans.

People are still going to hit that wall of "my build is 90% complete and it's going to take 100-200 hours for the last 10%, do I really want to do the same braindead shit over and over and over just for that last 10%?".

>>738146450
learn to fucking format your text
what the fuck

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>>738144837
why is nu-diablo so bright and washed out?
why did they manage to not fuck up diablo 2 resurrected yet they cant make an actual diablo game that actually is dark and colorful?

>>738144837
>>738146651
even the ui, my god what the FUCK are they doing, is that a chibi demon? fucks sake
fucking retarded tranny nigger game devs

>>738146638
That's exactly what puts me off from joining them, the game just sounds boring once you hit the end.
I just hear them complaining about drops never being what they need as they endlessly grind Torment levels and other shit more and more to "make number go up"

>>738146335
Diablo isn’t really like that. It’s more about moving fast and killing fast. You might eventually be able to kill fast, but it’s a slower version of other classes just by default. You also move slower, everything is slower. Thats actually why tendrils were added, to give necromancers like some type of wave control. Thats the most bullshit fucking spell probably, totally not even a necromancer spell at all. But they needed to give their kit like some type of new ability because of the obvious flaws that ai controlled minions have. You can’t control all the minions effectively, consider this. Consider every minion had its own player controlling it. Your dps would ramp like 20 times faster. So there’s lots of little gimmicks they do to bypass these flaws but it doesn’t work, the flaws of necromancy is too significant. Blizzard especially doesn’t even try to make necromancy classes good anymore, in Diablo 3 like dude you were just a wizard basically. Diablo 4 the class is just totally irrelevant because they tried to make it a real necromancer. Diablo 2 necromancer is also worthless shit, all the dps is tied to corpse explosion because otherwise the minions would need to do 25 times more dps.

>>738146450
Literally no one plays summoners to afk farm, people just like controlling npcs to fight for them like little companions in an otherwise lonely game grinding

>>738146638
It was the opposite for me. My gear was dog shit and I didn't really have any trouble clearing anything on torment and I was like "why bother even going further"?

>>738146809
Many games with necromancer classes have afk farming strategies being an important part of the class. Diablo 4 might not be like that, im sure there’s probably some type of afk spots but yeah it’s not that significant. Most people who play necromancer are huge noobs and once they reach end game content, the flaws of the class are readily apparent. They reroll, and then the game gets like 3 times faster lol it’s like everything just goes way easier and quicker and you do more damage and you get more loot. Necromancer is like a fun first class to play if you’re just starting out.

>>738137271
basing everything off of supposed "4chan popularity" is retarded

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>>738146651
Because they’re doing the same shit to Diablo that they did to WoW.
The only game that looks as good as Diablo 2 is PoE 2.

>>738136880
Yeah it's pretty good.

https://youtu.be/y320TPooDs8?si=gXH0r2-ck_R-FKT6
Poe won

>>738148305
... the gay nigga retard award

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Fishing chads won.

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>>738146651
>why is nu-diablo so bright and washed out?
This expansion is heavily inspired by ancient Greece. I'm assuming that we go back to the western continent (from the original Diablo) in the next expansion, based on stuff that was talked about in this one.

>>738146638
Thats all Blizz does, lure in people with FOMO so they buy the next 40 dollar expansion every year, they play 1 season for 2 weeks and then never touch the game again, until the next time they get FOMO-ed into buying another DLC by the marketing team and the cinematic trailer.

Theres nothing more pathetic than people who are still paypiggies for nu-blizzard

>>738136880
Getting shilled into buying this shit for 45€ is my biggest regret in gaming

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>>738146638
>another 2 weeks

>PoE2
>Genderlocked classes
lol
lmao

>>738149228
Why is this so common with chinkshit games?

>>738149464
It reduces your workload by a fuckton when you don't have to make animations for different genders and races, and also when you don't have to fit/rig several hundreds of pieces of armor multiple times.

>>738148761
Yeah it’s bullshit because I’m pretty sure I paid like $40 for the Spiritborn update and now that’s included in this one for free. So now I feel like they should just give me this one for free instead of paying another $40.

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I know it's not efficient but I'm really enjoying the paladin builds where you just kill everything by existing near it. Like an even more passive version of a spinning barbarian.

leave to blizzfags and /v/ to give a shit about gender and races in a fucking arpg where you don't even see your character
literally anybody else who enjoys actual video games care about the gameplay and content which fucking sucks ass in diablo 4
even half finished poe2 utterly shits on diablo 4

>>738149782
You mean the arbiter wingstrike builds? They're actually pretty good right now, I think.

>>738149964
I’d agree that gameplay is by far more important than character cosmetics and story. But I disagree that PoE2 shits on D4. Both are mediocre in their current state.

>>738137271
your friend works for blizzard and my dad works for nintendo

trust me bro

>>738149782
Paladin looks cooler than anything in PoE or PoE2. I don't care for unc-tier games.

>>738149782
Made an Aura paladin and it's shit, but it's cool to just walk into a room and everything just fucking dies from your mere presence.

>>738136880
>still no fucking Diablo
No

>>738145721
>doubles down on being a redditor sperg
LOL! bravo

Blizzard says this with every new release

Should have been a branching story where you join Inarius or Lilith. The story literally proved that Lilith didn't do anything wrong.

>>738142246
That’s Mephisto. Diablo still is nowhere to be found in IV

D3 act 1 will never be topped.

>>738152334
I knew D3 was gay but I didn't know it was a bottom.

>playing Warlock
>summoning purple dudes
>AoE is dogshit but the damage is decent
>can't find any fire items to play the good screen wide clear build
I might just reroll but idk what

>>738145206
In Diablo 2, necro is the only class that can reliably solo /players 8 hell naked

Should I get D2 for PD2, D2R, or D4?

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Luv me Pala

>>738153435
D2 for PD2

>hear warlock is utter shit
>it's one of two classes with aproper teleport to go through pits and walls and moving vertically
>the other is sorcerer which is shit

sigh

>Open thread
>PoEtards and poorfags still farming soj's in d2 seething
lol

>>738154072
I heard warlock is one of the strongest

>>738154270
In what ways is D4 better than either of those two?

>>738154536
Well for starters 90% of everything in the game isn't either so dogshit putting a skill point in to it bricks your character
Oh and
>Didn't just invalidate every set in the game via the same runewords for 20 years

>>738146638
>People are still going to hit that wall of "my build is 90% complete and it's going to take 100-200 hours for the last 10%, do I really want to do the same braindead shit over and over and over just for that last 10%?".
For all seasons my game has been: "welp i'm stomping everything in T4 and got all seasonal rewards, time to fuck off"

>>738153704
>he spend $60 on nothing
wow, good goy

>>738155267
How long did it take you?

>>738155267
>do I really want to do the same braindead shit over and over and over just for that last 10%?
You truly do not understand ARPG players if you think the answer is anything other than YES.

>>738155441
usually the playtime when i decide to turn off is usually in 30h-40h.

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there doesn't seem to be a good way to build around this big demon dude

>network error
>saar we swear this on your end

MY fucking cunt is it

>>738155468
9/10 D4 players are not ARPG players. They are casual dad gamers.

>>738144837
I heard D4 let you buy the skull knight skin for necro, is it still available ingame?

>>738156462
It's literally no different for PoE players.
>>738156502
I wouldn't know, I don't buy cosmetics.

What is the end game of Diablo 4? and use terms I'll understand without playing the game don't just say nightmare dungeons reigns of fire

d4 bad

Is this game
>pirateable
>worth pirating and playing solo
Loved D3 but refuse to give blizz a single cent
>inb4 poorfag accusations from the bootlickers

>>738157240
What, you don't own every single video game just to be able to show your wealth? Poorfag

>>738157240
>Is this game
>pirateable
No, it's online only, characters are hosted on Blizz servers.
>worth playing solo
Moot because you can't pirate, but yes. I never play with anyone else.

I'm in Torment 6 and spent 4-5 hours switching over to a Touch of Death Spiritborn today. It was fun, plays very similar to the DoT Witch Doctor builds in Diablo 3. I hope this infuriates some of you and you cry yourself to sleep restlessly muttering "D4 bad".

>>738156982
You run Content A for materials to run Content B which reward materials to upgrade something you have with the ultimate end goal of having a character you find fun to play/zone out to while farming.
With LoH you have the cube which allows you to edit your gear a bitore than you could before, some of these methods lock your item so they cannot be modified anymore, this is meant to be the last thing you do to an item to try and get one more strong affix on it. The cube essentially gives you various PoE currencies in function if you understand that. It's better than it was before the expansion by a fair bit. The warplans thing they added needs some work to let you actually focus in on 1-2 content types vs being a list you just pick objectives from in the lineup. If you are a PoE knower, we got essences, and a lot of the base currencies from PoE without dealing with the usual rarity issues, however this means trading isn't as popular and for some people the economy is a big part of ARPGs

>>738157924
everything I see about Spiritborn you just spam dodge roll like an autobomber, sounds lame

beat the story, have zero idea to get back on the end game treadmill. I think I just dont like video games anymore

>>738141243
commie redditor hands typed this review

I'm having fun with the warlock
I skip all story shit, tho. Like no idea what the fuck is going on. Lilith is apparently a nice demon now

>>738159920
>I'm having fun with the warlock
How? I can't get into it. Level 57 trying to shit out demons and it's just not very fun. Maybe I built it wrong, but it's so fucking slow and gay.

>>738159920
>>738160017
Chiming in as well, minion warlock has been mad boring

>>738160017
>>738160094

Sigil of summons is the only part I dislike but not sure what else to put on it
Between command fallen, bombardment, nether step field of abaddon and profane sentinel I like it

I like throwing demons, I like exploding demons, I like the giant eyemouth laser, I like the big bastard sword guy and nether step is a fun teleportation tool

I'm only level 34 on pentitent sice it's my first char

>>738136880
always was

>>738136880
For what it's worth, I liked the Korn music video

>>738160294
I hated it, and I love old Korn

>>738153435
D2 for path of diablo

D4 is a game that actually respects your time

>>738160094
Everything is mad boring. Every class has a blow the screen up with no effort combo, and your set just makes it better.

75% of the skills may as well not exist.

>>738144837
>If you are poor no.
what did he mean by this? Does it cost lots of money to buy items or something?

>>738154072
Sorcerer is top at the moment.

So that's it in terms of story for 4? that was some Return of the King lame ass ending.
Where the fuck is DIABLO

>>738151509
You need the 2h axe that gives you 160% aura potency, otherwise its not worth playing.

>>738160826
Because you need to buy the expansions too. Just the base game and it sucks. Stick to PoE1 if you're poor.

>>738142171
Same. I enjoyed it. Started out hammers, then thorns, then switched to auradin/arbiter which was so fast and insane it hard mogged the other specs and killed my interest in the class due to sheer imbalance.

>>738136880
It will never be good because it is made by soulless corporate golems who have no understanding of DIablo or what makes video games fun in general.

>>738161060
I can only guess at what type of shitslop you have dumped 1k+ hours into.

>>738160886
Expansion 6 plus tip

Somehow barb feels even more floaty and with less impact than in d3.

>>738136880
It's retarded to bring back Mephisto just to cuck him again
Are you retarded? Idk

>>738161123
I don't put 1k hours into any single game because I'm not a fucking retard.

>>738161227
If there isn't a single game you could dump 1k hours into, then you're simply a joyless faggot. Everyone has at least one game they can be autistic about

>lilith is a dindu just forget what she did in the base game
>mephisto is HATE ITSELF AND MUST BE STOPPED
I'm starting to get what people mean by Israeli coded game

Is chain lightning sorc okay

>>738161395
Yes. All builds are viable for most of the content. If you want to be autistic and push the pit/tower then you need to dive into the meta, but any retarded shit you can come up with will clear 99% of the content.

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I want lilith to step on me

I just hate how fucking boring everything is. For all its faults D3 at least had legendaries and sets that changed up the way you played and what skills do. D4 it feels like literally everything is just some generic damage increase. It's just so fucking lame.

>>738161395
No, it's not okay compared to other skills. It has truly awful scaling EVEN WITH THE UNIQUE PANTS THAT TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF CL YOU CAST PER CAST.

Something is terribly wrong with the scaling of the spell. I tried to make it work but it just doesn't do any damage and seems to only exist as a supplement enchantment.

>>738162274
D4 has sets now, and they don't overtake the rest of your build, but are still build defining. In D4 they amounted to "Deal 40,000% more damage".

>>738162274
There are a lot of build defining uniques imo, but they are buried pretty deep in rng and grind.

>>738162378
I spent most of my time so far on my paladin, and one of the paladin sets is literally
>do 500% more damage against elites and bosses

Rogue is such a poorly designed non-class its kind of incredible. I don't know why they didn't just do the logical thing and make a fucking amazon.

Were they trying to capture the autistic asian demon hunter fan demographic? What?

I hate to say this but I think last epoch mogs D4 hard.

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>>738162436
Wow Pally sucks. Necro makes your Army of the dead essentially no cooldown.

>>738162648
Rogue and Sorcerer are classes in the first game. For some reason they added both of them but didn't add the Warrior so the game released without a sword n board class which is retarded.

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Why the fuck did an item level 76 unique drop in torment 4?

>>738163104
>Warrior
Barbarian was on launch

>>738163285
Barbarian is a D2 class. Not the same class fantasy.

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I will say this is a cool sounding set where you just run around with all of your soul shard summons. I haven't heard anything about it or seen any streamers playing such a build though so it must suck.

>>738160968
Being able to afford a mountain of shit isn't a win for you, champ

The soul shard demons for warlock are all actual active skills? That's fucking retarded. You only get six skills and have to stop using one just to fucking use the class mechanic

>>738163104
>For some reason
Money, since they sold the fantasy to you later as Paladin. D3 had no sword and board class either at launch, you think they would have learned.

>>738163903
personally there's not another skill I would use in that slot anyway

>>738136880
probably not but I've also never played a diablo game

>>738137271
The chinese are obsessed with it

>>738161329
>>mephisto is HATE ITSELF AND MUST BE STOPPED
So no different from D2?

>>738147425
that looks like shite

It pisses me off how your pet doesn't auto loot things it should like the boss trophies and cube shit

>>738148707
>le giant statues
Cringe design, probably jeets who came up with this shit

>>738165219
Same, and it happens every season they add a new currency/mat in. Then the following season the patch notes say "Your pet now collects cum sprites" and everyone rejoices. Then 2 days into the season "Man I wish the pet whould pick up niglet tokens".
Why can't it just be a default thing?

>>738165524
>he has never heard of the Colossus of Rhodes
You aren't white.

>female villain is once again, redeemed

the writers not even disguised fetish

>>738166217
She isn't though, she is banished to the shadow realm with her dad.

>>738163537
I got the full set and no wonder there's no fucking builds centered around it considering the description is a straight up fucking lie

>>738146051
D4 cosmetics look like chinkshit

>>738141243
mmos have been doing this since forever

yeah its shitty but this is the industry standard in service games and has been for like 25+ years

>>738154536
Loot drops arent balanced around a shitty trade system

>>738149464
gender locks are literally just cause D2 did it

those old rpg's always did that but theres no need anymore

>>738136880
No offline mode no play Blizzard.

>>738156982
You are in content #8, to get to #9 you need 10% more power. You run #8 until you get that 10% power, now you can run #9, you need 10% more power to get to #10.

Your 'build' is designed by Blizzard, and you've been pressing the same buttons in the same order for the last 400 hours.

>>738166723
yeah but it's kinda fun

>>738166738
Not really no. Fun comes from players making choices that have consequences. There is none of that in D4. The build is designed by Blizzard, the difficulty is purely time based from grinding and the ultimate reward is to do what you just did again.

>>738166723
>>738166807
sounds exactly like d3 was

>>738167052
Its exactly like all Blizz games now.

>>738167052
It's exactly the same as any ARPG.

>>738167231
Modern shitty APRGs sure. Its why anyone with taste moved onto Souls games though.

>>738167052
There's more variety than D3, where there was really only one thing to push at the endgame. There's something like six activities to do in the D4 endgame. Warplans encourages you to mix things up.

>>738163903
No. you just activate 1 soul shard skill and it will summon the other 3 for 10 sec.

>>738167345
Souls games are not the same as ARPGs. 2 vastly different audiences

>>738163537
I dominated with this exact set.

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>>738141243
That is fucking insane holy fucking shit dude

>>738141243
capitalism... works?

>>738141459
>It beats the shit out of PoE2 easily right now.
i would play current POE2 over D4 any fucking day you are on full copium then when 0.5 comes out i will say the same thing again, POE1 shits on D4 so badly that they had to copy its system like a retard in class trying to copy someones homework only for it to be a bunch of retarded scribbles, WAR PLANS!

lmfao

where Diablo

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Saars, why does this game have the axe of the sixth avatar of Vishnu? Parashu = Axe. Parashurama = Rama-with-an-axe.

So far I'm at act 3 from the base game and it's not bad, gameplay wise, the story is a bit mediocre tho.
Although I've only played torchlight 1 and 2 as prior arpg games, so my knowledge on the genre isn't too extensive.

>>738145848
Words like "possible" have fooled normalfags into thinking it means it isn't 100% unlikely. The likelihood of that shit being true may as well be, it's a rounding error.

>>738146765
>even the ui, my god what the FUCK are they doing, is that a chibi demon? fucks sake
>fucking retarded tranny nigger game devs
haha, they trying to disney-fi it.

>>738136880
So nightmare sigils are stuff to do outside of the war plan? I sort of like this system a lot the more I play it. Warplan is cozy but then you get 'off meta' shit like lair keys and nightmare sigils to go out and do. I wish paragon levels weren't account bound though once you hit paragon 200 it feels pointless to grind any char since you barely level up and have 200 passives at 70. Fucking normies man.

>>738145134
trvke

>>738146651
Blizzard didn't make resurrected

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>>738136880
>THEY ADDED AN OVERLAY MAP
>FINALLY
>A MOTHERFUCKING OVERLAY MAP

ITS ONLY TOOK THEM 3 YEARS.

>>738179858
I never turn it off. I don't know why they were so averse to it. It's so fucking useful, especially in the Undercity.

>>738180064
its really not. theres typically only one way to go. this game has zero mazes or huge wide open areas. undercity is so easy you just zip right through the whole thing in a minute. could do it with the map off

>>738180064
we're zoomed in so fucking much it could work without an overlay if we could see more but it seriously feels like the max zoom in option of poe 2 is the max zoom out option in d4.

>>738143258

Give me my renown back. Only then will I play again.

>>738141459
It took blizzard 2 expansions and 13 seasons to get up to par with every other ARPG on the market

>>738145269
>thatll fix diablo 4
Its been 3 years and 13 seasons anon. If it ain't fixed now, it never will be

>>738141279
Visuals were bad, story was trash, UI was ugly and it was full of microtransactions.

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>>738136880
Just finished Act 1. it's kino af so far