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I paid 40 bucks for this
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>>738151472
Bro I paid 120$ to play before release day and quit in like a fucking week you are fine it could be worse
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>>738151472
You condense the story to about 2 hours and wouldn't lose a single important thing. Maybe even less.
It's only about 10 hours long and I still feel like I played through garbage filler most of the time. WHO THE FUCK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS?

There is so little going on, tt could have been the epilogue of the first expansion.
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>>738152610
No one cares about the story. The class overhauls and new content is what people care about.
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>>738151472
Buy an ad
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>>738152713
>The class overhauls and new content is what people care about.
I don't care about any of that.
They destroyed my build and made all my mythic and legendary items useless. No refunds btw
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>>738151472
Why did you buy a Microsoft Activision Blizzard King game?
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>>738152865
Because I'm a fucking retard obviously
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>>738152898
Is okay, I too have multiple retarded game regrets
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>>738152981
Like what?
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>>738151472
>you paid 40$ for garbage
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>>738153000
Like >>738152040
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>>738152713
Honestly, a surprisingly high number of people (considering how people are 'expected' to play the genre) only play the Diablo campaign and never touch the endgame.

>>738152815
>made all my mythic and legendary items useless
Its an expansion to an RPG with a new level cap, you can't seriously have expected you pre expansion gear to remain relavent in the new endgame.
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>>738153170
>you can't seriously have expected you pre expansion gear to remain relavent in the new endgame.
I didn't expect it to be top of the line of course. But they not only outclass my old stuff with new gear, they literally CHANGED my old gear. Literally REMOVING skills, stats and affixes. It's not only outclassed but USELESS.
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>>738151472
you trusted Blizzard (now Microsoft).
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on the bright side, maybe you'll like Diablo 3 if all you want is to do rifts all day. it's action RPG slop done well.
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Well reddit said it's the best expansion ever. So now I don't know who to believe.
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You will buy the next one anyway so shut the fuck up you stupid fucking cattle.
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>>738153670
Don't think there's gonna be a next one anytime soon
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>>738154305
Point still stands
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>>738153458
as opposed to doing baal runs all day on d2?
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>>738157163
>as opposed to doing baal runs all day on d2?
It's not 2008 anymore, grandpa
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>>738157804
>D2 is the peak of the genre
>but it's also old and unacceptable
well, which is it RETARD?
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Am I retarded or was the story complete dog shit?
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>>738157839
Nobody does Baal runs for leveling in D2 anymore, retard.
Maybe up to level 90 if you're lazy.
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>>738151472
Haven't played it, but really dig the song Korn made for it.
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>>738157909
Yes and yes
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>>738152713
>No one cares about the story.
Why do people say this?
I'm serious, why is the story not a selling point? There's a fucking campaign. Why can't it be good? Why is it always, "Nobody cares, skip the story"?

Like presumably many people get a game like Diablo because it's a grim, dark medieval fantasy world where you're a mortal man facing the horrors of hell. But so many people like yourself are just like
>Story? Skip it, and skip all the dialogue
>Music? Sound effects? Naaah I put those on mute
>Lore? Who cares
>Graphics? Art direction? Don't care

Like what the fuck is this mindset. Do normalfags just see the game as a spreadsheet?
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Someone got filtered by Uber Mephisto on torment 10 kek
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>>738158068
>Do normalfags just see the game as a spreadsheet?
For me it is just clicking buttons and watching shit die while listening to podcasts
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>>738158408
>just did a warplan while listening to Dad Meat
heard that brother
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>still no Diablo
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>>738158508
Paragon?
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>hes not top 200 solo leaderboard for his class
lmaoing @ you
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>>738158741
Benefits of doing the tower?
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>>738151472
and you'll do it again when the next expansion that promises to change EVERYTHING comes out, paypiggy
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>>738152713
What new content lmfao
I never played d4 before and when I found out pit was the endgame I lmao irl
>run down a hallway as fast as possible with your autobomber spec
>forever
Lol!??!!! Its 2026
Okay sure there are some Uber bosses, great. But pit...dude. pit.
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>>738159740
flexing
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>>738158068
Well the problem with story in d4 is that difficulty scaling is impossible, so 95% of players wind up just 1 shotting everything including bosses unless they gimp themselves.
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And yes PIT is the endgame because its the only way to level up glyphs. So youre wasting time doing anything else literally.
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>>738151472
I paid $45 for both base game and expansion
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>>738157909
Yes the story is dogshit and you use /v/ so you're definitely retarded
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>>738160054
true that
it's a problem with ARPG combat in general
can't have a serious narrative while your character is capable of instantly screen exploding entire armies
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>>738157909
It hasn't been good since day one. They are completely ignoring an entire game they created previously (Diablo 3) and some how making an even WORST story despite trying to do a clean slate.
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>>738151472
I paid $40 to get this AND the previous expansion. I think that was a pretty ok deal.
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>>738151472
Why would you do that? Has Blizzard put out anything of value in like a decade?
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>>738160013
Nobody cares tho
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>>738160542
>I paid $40 to get this AND the previous expansion
There is no other option.
They removed the option to buy the previous expansion at all.
And you can't buy the second expansion separately.
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>>738152713
Blizzdrones spent their whole childhood on their c-grade lorefaggotry. All the speghetti western tier storylinesb made by jews with jewish folk tales sprinkled throughout. It's everything to boomers.
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>>738161423
sir this is a wendys
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>>738161008
I care
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>>738151472
Same >>738152040
I also wasted my free BP because of a misclick and the fags at blizzard refuse to just delete it from my account and give me another pass even when I had no progress
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>>738162683
Kek that's pretty dumb ngl
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>>738153308
>Literally REMOVING skills, stats and affixes. It's not only outclassed but USELESS
good
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>>738164893
How's that good dipshit
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>>738152815
>they destroyed my build
>this nigga plays on Eternal
You deserve what you get.
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>>738151472
they finally moving on from the absolute dogshit itemization of D3 is the first step towards a good game
still not buying it until they finish the game though
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>>738157909
>DAD BAD
>Why?
>HE DO BAD TO HUMANS
>Ok, guess we'll get some help from this demon woman
>I HATE HUMANS AND YOU BUT HATE DAD MORE
>ok?
>I LOVE MY SON, BUT SON DEAD BECAUSE HE HATES ME AND I HATED HIM ALSO HE HAD A DAGGER YOU NEED IT
>Ok
>Fetch quest x3
>Attack dad
>Dad sent to Blizzard Void TM scapegoat when they have to "kill" something but don't want to kill it
>YOU WIN but actually no Dad, Daughter, Son and more will all be back next season or in D5
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>>738166765
I genuinely din't understand seasonal.
>adding MMO/gacha time limits to a PVE game
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Genuinely interested in getting it but I haven't played since the season where the Pit was introduced. My problem with the game was there was literally zero reason to Pit push because the drops didn't get any better. Once you cleared Pit level 20 it was the same as clearing Pit level 100. Same drops, just more currency for way more effort.
Has this changed at all? Is there incentive to push harder content beyond personal achievement and the leader board? I guess what I'm asking is if there is a proper, challenging and comparatively rewarding end game
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>>738166765
>he starts over every 2 months
Who's the retard here?
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>>738151472
>giving blizzard money
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>>738167151
It's definitely better. There's so much to do now. I'm currently not even doing the pit. Only doing it for leveling glyphs atm.
There are 12 tiers of difficulty now and many overworld activities. Pit is not the only thing to do.
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>>738151472
But Windows Central said that Diablo is back baybee
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>>738167151
Nope, no changes at all. If its not Pit its some other version of Pits.
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>>738167151
D4 is riding the accessibility train. everything drops from everywhere. you could spam helltides and get all the gear you could get anywhere else in the game. its not trying to be path of exile which is fine but it aint for me
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>>738167098
>>738167225
It takes 3-4 days to max out a character. Seasonal has new mechanics every 3 months.
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>>738167491
>Seasonal has new mechanics every 3 months.
This season doesn't even have a seasonal mechanic tied to it. So playing on eternal is completely valid.
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>>738167098
WTF are you even doing on an Eternal character? What's your goal? The whole fun part is leveling up a new character and getting gear to make them powerful. There is a certain point when that stops, that's why seasonal resets are popular, in addition to adding new mechanics.
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>>738167591
>WTF are you even doing on an Eternal character? What's your goal?
Story.
Side quests.
Achievements.
Just enjoying the atmosphere.
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>>738167491
>>738167591
Maybe I'm the wierd one but do you guys play like 10 hours a day or something? Do you hit max level and gear that fast?
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>>738152040
>>738162683
You had not one but two free beta weekends to realize it was shit like I did. Goddamn I was hyped before those free weekends shattered my dreams, then I watched as consoomtards who bought it started to level complaints at it barely a week later that were all present in the beta. What were you clowns doing
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>>738160508
Good marning sar
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Where is the loot filter options?
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>>738169345
options -> gameplay -> bottom of first section
check on the "enable shortcut" so you can just get to it immediately when you press escape
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>>738169490
Thanks!
May Akarat guide you
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I just think westerners can’t write anymore since about 2012, and D4 is one of the BETTER examples out there.
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>>738151472
I learned my mistake when I bought the base game. Won't trick me again.
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>>738167772
1-60 is maybe 3-4 hours of work if you go slow.
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>Paying many for a game with a roman numeral higher than a II at the end of the title
It’s like you tards enjoy being mad and throwing money away
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>>738151472
SEETHING DISCORD TROON ALERT
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>>738170137
Yet FFVIII is the best in its series.
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>>738169949
How? I did some whispers and the like and am around 30.
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The campaign was decent while it lasted, even if it was extremely predictable and the end was ok.
Bringing Lilith back only to kill her again felt frustrating, Lorath’s off-screen death felt cheap, Neyrelle’s death was hard to care about, and Mephisto’s scheming was too transparent to create much mystery.
The gameplay itself is basically the same as before and I couldn't bring myself to play more after finishing the story once.
This is what my paladin looked like at the end of it. The faces are still super ugly, so I tried having AI improve it.
I just hope they're done with D4 now and make a D5 or something, because poe2 is still just better.
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>>738170910
>please to redeem the PoO2 saar
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>cursory scroll through thread
>no one clowning on huehuea OP
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>>738171826
We're all brown here. Maybe Reddit is better suited for you, whitey.
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>>738162563
You don't though?
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>>738166704
It's an arpg. Your gear should get invalidated every couple of months.
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>>738171826
only third worlders and other subhumans buy blizzardslop, why are you shocked?
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>>738171215
>PoO2
Lel
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>>738153308
That's how the genre works.
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>>738172027
But Blizzardslop is Warcraft, Starcraft, Overwatch, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, and Diablo Immortal. Diablo 1, 2, and 4 are games Blizzdrones don't play.
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>>738158068
>>738151472
I care about the story, I listened to every soundtrack, did every side mission, talked to every NPC and read every lore item in the game.

The issue is with retards who can't do that, ignore all of it, dismiss everything blizzard attempts as woke or worse from the get go because they have nostalgia goggles for their shitty dad games from 2000 or another arpg that suffers from at least similar issues.

As with all works of fictions, D4 has its strong and weak points. Pacing issues, issues with presentation and logical flaws here and there. Everything combined it's a really good package that easily competes with every other arpg on the market. I'm not even talking about the quality of the story as that is highly subjective.

If you seriously just call it "trash" dismissing any positives in the game at all and reduce it to this polemic spiteful hate then I have bad news for you - nothing can make you happy. Blizzard is absolutely unable to satisfy your demands because even if they somehow pushed out a 10/10 perfect gem you'd still hate it because it's not your shitty dad game from 26 years ago that you grew to love because it reminds you of a time your life wasn't shitty, stressful and bitter.
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When did you realise that Demon’s Souls is the true sequel to Diablo 2
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>>738172898
>j*p*n*s*
Absolutely not. Borderlands is probably the closest.
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>>738151472
>play poe
>every season is free
>play poe2
>every season is free
>play last epoch
>every season is free
>play grim dawn
>every season is free
>play d4
>every season is $40
justify this
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>>738173001
Every season in d4 is free, retard.
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>>738173001
Small indie company.
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>>738173001
Retard
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>>738173001
>play d4
>every season is free
>cosmetics are like 1/5th of the price of poe cosmetics
>don't have to buy stash tabs
>can play it casually for a week of fun every other month instead of having to invest serious time and effort trading etc.
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>>738151472
You're an incredible dumb nigger if you still buy Blizzard games post Diablo 3. Holy shit.
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>>738173001
You pay for the cosmetics, not the content.
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>>738173001
This is season 13. Are you under the impression that Blizzard has sold 12 expansions for Diablo 4?
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>>738173198
>d4
>fun
good one
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>>738151472
quite funny to spend $120 or even $40 bucks on this when basedjack asian girl was in it. Such a detestable retard.
I'd have pirated it though, but shame it's not possible.
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First of all, I just want to say how fucking garbage this story is.
>dude Lillith died for your sins she's like a good guy and demons can be good totally

But really, my biggest issue with the story and campaign was how fucking boring it was.
Every fucking quest is just;
>go to area, follow someone around and let them talk a bunch
>grab super special item, take it to another place, let people talk again
>oh no, monsters waves
>repeat 10 thousand times
>oh and also mix in a few cinematics which for some reason don't have the skip dialogue button and can only be fully skipped so you can't speed read all this slop dialogue
It's so fucking boring.
I've played fucking MMO's with more interactive stories and quests that didn't force me to babysit NPCs all fucking day.

This shit is some of the worst experiences I've had in a video game.
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>mfw just got to Vigo's death
it's not fair, bros...
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>>738158068
>Do normalfags just see the game as a spreadsheet?
No, it's autistfags and gambling addicts.
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>buy legendary off of vendor
>some gay persistent spawn of blood orbs that do AOE damage
>mfw they pop up in cinematics
>even when my character model isn't in it
what sort of pajeet wizardry is this?
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>>738173649
What race is that supposed to be?
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>>738151472
>there are people that still pay AND play Blizzard games
LMAO. I don't have the strength to spare a slur for what you have become.
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>>738158068
I think it’s really hard to marry a top down game and story. If we give normies the benefit here, watching story play out in Diablo 4 is like spying on people with a drone.

It sounds silly to put it like that, but there’s no cinematography in the action, no close ups in the conversations. Except for cutscenes, which are seperate from the actual gameplay loop.
You’ll notice the story points are strongest in boss fights where thematic mechanics are pressing you. That’s when the “story” in ARPGs starts to work.

ARPGs will always have this issue of a feeling of separation from the actual story being told. Many other games too, like sidescrollers.
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>>738174752
>ARPGs will always have this issue of a feeling of separation from the actual story being told.
Yeah except for Diablo 2, you know, the thing that spawned the "genre"
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>>738174558
But at least they're not Warcraft, Starcraft, Overwatch, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3, or Diablo Immortal.
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>>738173845
>dude Lillith died for your sins she's like a good guy and demons can be good totally
Confirmed retard who didn't understand the story.
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>>738174558
I accept your transition
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I haven't kept up with diablo, but knowing its blizzard...
Is the monetization as egregious as WoW? as in Base game cost, DLC/expansion, Subscription, Cosmetic cash shop, housing cash shop, selling levelling skips/boosts and other 'convenience' features and lets not forget they sell gold which directly equates to player power since you can buy relevant gear/consumables/services and more on the player market/AH.
am i missing something? i quit many years ago, and just hear things trough some friends, for all i know WoW could have some paid reward track or pass that i dont know about.
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>>738175723
They sell the game and skins. Nothing else. It's better than poe in regard to monetization.
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>>738175759
Saar, do not disrespect the PoO.
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>Nerf Paladin into the ground
>Warlock is shit
Blizzard can't help themselves but to suck the fun out of everything.
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>>738175840
Every build goes through that. It operates in cycles of viability.
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>>738151472
Console d3 is still better cause it's not always online and pioneered the roll for the franchise
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>>738167658
But story and side quest are shit, atmosphere is pathetic.
Dont you have better games to play with better world than this semitic shithole?
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>>738175723
For Diablo 4 there is the premium battle pass and accelerated battle pass(skip) they provide XP boost and goldfind and shit, so kinda p2w in that regard, other than that it just the high box cost, the DLC price and selling early access together with premium currency same as any other scum company.

Value wise if you spent the equivalent of the Diablo 4 mandatory base game cost + all DLC + battle pass in PoE you could have bought every unique stash tab and have some money left over for cosmetics or whatever else they try sell you.
but i dont get why anyone would spend money on either.
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>>738174914
take off the nostalgiagoggles fucktard
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>>738151472
lol
lmao
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>every 'top' build is just autobomber brainless garbage
>torment tiers are just exponential health amounts so you watch billions of damage popping up on your screen while you get stat checked by errant puddles of goop on the floor that you cannot see due to the spell effects
>half the bosses/guardians have some sort of point blank instant aoe effect that punishes melee
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>>738176524
Sounds like PoE.
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>Angels are actually le bad
>Lilith is misunderstood
>Tyrael was Idris Elba all along.
They would had made mephisto good or whatever if the game was not named Diablo.
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>>738158068
because you are arguing with shills.
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>>738176771
Actually, "angels are just as evil as demons" was literally the plot of Diablo 3. It’s just the next step. Don’t ask questions goy
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>>738158068
>"Nobody cares, skip the story"
WoW fags were buck broken by Blizzard, they are addicted to number go up so nothing else matters.
This is woke cookie clicker for people with disability checks.
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>>738175840
I'm still progressing through the story to unlock torment, when do I notice any sort of nerf to paladins? I've been a god since level 30 or so when I unlocked enough skills to perma-arbiter.
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Tencent shill thread
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>>738176826
>We worship demons here
why do jew writers have to turn every place into a fucking allegory for Israel?
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Just bought the whole game cause all my friends are playing and I'm a slave to fomo
gonna be a necromancer and have tons of skellies and shit
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>>738176771
>we need to make angels niggers to be subversive
>we need to make christianity evil to be subversive
>end result niggers are evil
I love this trope where jewish demoralization counteracts itself.
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>>738176985
Because none of these writers can associate themselves with traditionally good guys. This is the result of the decay of Western culture, white can no longer be called white and black can no longer be called black because it might offend someone, so everything has to be grey. You must always side with the victim, no matter circumstances. You can see this everywhere, from media to politics. EU literally grants political asylum to terrorists who absolutely hate everything Western simply because their governments oppress them, and oppression is wrong, even if those people fully deserve it.
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>>738176014
>not always online
At what point in a first worlder's life would he ever be offline?
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>>738177215
It’s more a trend of narrative nihilism picked up from Game of Thrones. Couple that with Marvels script writing which is completely linear and devoid of twists, and you end up with emotionally striking scenes with no cleverness that bank on that grey morality to seem deep.

Basically, westerners can’t write anymore. Think about how Lord of Hatred would be if it were a 90s anime and you can already feel the narrative highlights in your mind.
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Idk I'm having a lot more fun than I had playing Path of Excrement 2
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>>738158068
No one gives a shit about the 3 hours of cutscenes, lil bro. New to Diablo?
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>>738178293
Poe2 is good too, it’s just in a constant battle of isometric Dark Souls combat tropes.

I’d wish Diablo would lean a bit more into Blullet hell arcade-like bosses. Because while some of poe2s are sublime, the rest are Bed of Chaos tier, and this sort of combat reaches an apex eventually, that being action combat relying purely on enemy animation tells instead of MMO markers and mechanics.

But everyone says LoH’s bosses are good so we’ll see
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>>738178334
Diablo 2 literally uses story pre-rendered cutscenes as end of chapter rewards.
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>>738179510
D2 is designed to be played a hundred times. Instant skip after the first playthrough.
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Just found this
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>>738152040
LoH had a global launch.
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>>738179550
>designed to be played 100 times

Wrong. It was designed as a one and done DnD campaign like Diablo 1. Replayability wasn’t in the minds of developers in the 90s as films and novels were at the artistic forefront.

This is like saying Mario 64 was meant to be speedran 1000s of times. It’s the “tabletop games” like Age of Empires and Sim City that were meant to be replayed.
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>>738179760
Mario 64 supports up to 3 concurrent save files and file deletion.
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WHY EVERY NEW GAME HAS PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THEIR FEELINGS NON-STOP. SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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>>738179691
>hideous ugly tranny face
why do blizzard fans like this?
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>>738179887
but their feelings...
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>>738151472
ARPGs are completely dead.
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>>738173939
whos that again? thought everyone important had been killed off by now, did they introduce someone new for cheap feels in killing them off right away?
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>>738179887
Jeffrey's tribalism shills. Any ARPG gamer could play every season/league in parity. There's massive poorfag one game only LARP going on in these threads, it's obvious they don't play video games and are only interesting in creating another facet of tribalism to divide people.
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>>738179887
But isn’t this post also talking about your anger

Ironic. He could critique others, but not himself *smiles*
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>>738157839
Love for d2 is entirely nostalgia.
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>>738180252
D2 is cool, but it’s not as good as 3 and 4.
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>>738180290
They are all shit.
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>>738151472
>shit developer releases shit games for at least 12 years
>people still act surprised when another shit game is released by shit developer
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>738179760
Don't be retarded. It had progressively more difficult NG+ modes with new gear.
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>>738180315
OH WOW CHECK OUT THIS 4channer
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>>738151472
Thanks but I don't need more than this
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>>738180442
It's just a shill who doesn't like the game, not a real person. It was evident when they just posted a google screenshot of the video game title, and no pictures from the campaign. All the Diablo threads posted here over the past few days follow this trend, there was three Diablo threads up earlier.
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>>738151472
>Giving Blizzard money
Fuck you, nobody to blame but yourself. How absolutely fucking retarded do you have to be to keep doing this?
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Why don't they make an original MMO
Nobody asked for Avowed
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>>738173649
They hired (not surprising) that Erika Ishii voice actress? Or some other tard?
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Is D4 worth playing? I just want a fun arpg with character customization. How bad is the story really? Is it wonderlands level bad?
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>>738181673
The story sucks, but Lilith is sexy. If you're playing for the campaign, don't bother. That's the worst part of the game.
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>>738181847
I just want an arpg that lets me realize the idea of a powerful demon form class with demon minions that I was cucked out of in PoE2 and Last Epoch.
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>>738181673
Diablo 4 is a solid 7-8/10 the whole way through. It has the best build customization out of any RPG I’ve played because of how streamlined the skill tree is and how they link into equipment.

The story has issues, but the grimdark tone is enough to pull you in.
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>>738160542
the previous expansion might as well not exist so I don't know about that
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gameplay sucks
floaty animations
horrible mobile slop ui

why do people buy this shit anyway?
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>>738181545
not every Asian video game character is voiced by the same person
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>PoE2 got better by adding roll and making the overall game more soulslike
>Diablo 4 is just still that boring gameplay
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>>738182405
D4 also has a dodge roll
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>>738182405
Dont forget how smooth WASD feels, the overall animations and look
>>738182457
>D4 also has a dodge roll
A very shitty one at that theres no need to dodge ever you facetank everything anyways
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>>738179550
Lol i beat diablo and ball why i would this again on harder levels
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>poe2 is so god damn successful and actually it's not rollslop, it's soulslike, and actually uh, it's not floaty at all, that's a feature, and uhh, it's uhhh tactical, and meaningful, and full of purpose, and uhhh, D4 is the one who is the floaty one
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>>738151472
Whats the level cap again? Im playing it for the first time and was level 60 after clearing fractured peaks
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>>738182659
70
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>>738182405
Poe2s problem is that you just roll through every single thing and spam two attacks while kiting hordes of enemies.

The boss attacks are phenomenal though. Some of the mechanics and aoe patterns they do are legitimate 10/10.
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>>738182635
PoE2 is mid but you are fucking retarded, nobody is going to play 3 weeks before the new league.
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>>738182457
I CAMT DO THAT HERE
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Goddamn the music is good in lord of hatred. It’s like a cross between Nier Automata and Diablo. The voice acting too is outstanding.
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>>738183170
Reddit post
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>>738182635
Im waiting for my fav classes, idk like rest but in this genre its my fav game
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>>738183170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpkVj67Oj44
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>>738151472
>nearly everywhere off this website praising all changes
>"should have released this way"
Is it genuinely bad or is this just classic /v/ at it again
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>Buying microtransaction (more like macro at this point) filled garbage
>Buying a game that was so bad on release even reddit turned on it when they fucked up the big patch
Grim dawn mogs
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>>738184064
>paid shills shill game they're paid to shill
>place with on average lower density of paid shills calls it garbage
You tell me mate.
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>>738184174
>average lower density of paid shills
>4chan
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>>738173370

NTA but I think he meant game updates/expansions. For example, it would be like paying 40 euro for Act 4 of PoE2 and then another 40 euro for the act 5-6. This is more or less how the Blizzard model works, except they don't call it officially an early access, they treat it as a full release and instead of actually just finishing the game as they should, they are "giving a bonus content on top of a finished game", hence the price premium. D4 is essentially an Early Access title in all but name. They overhaul things constantly, add new additions to the game that should be a part of the complete game and etc.
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>>738151472
It's the best story they've ever done in Diablo.

Pure kino.
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>>738184174
>>place with on average lower density of paid shills
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>>738151472
>brown
>gives blizzshit money in 2026
Fucking retard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE2n0Py-oHs
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>>738173001
why lie like this? what do you gain from it?
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my biggest gripe is still blizz devs being modern retards who need a bunch of dumb shit like flashy shit on screen all the time or constant messages of accomplishments.
if they had voice overs for everything it would be equally as annoying as wildstar's "YOU'RE A BADASS" crap
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>>738151472
Diablo 4 broke my Xbox One S
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>>738151472
this story was pure kino, feels good to not be a jaded goy

I am still pissed that I paid for VoH tho
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how do you fall for it 3 times?
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>>738188064
Cute head.
Can I have it?
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So Lilith actually did nothing wrong?
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>>738188431
And kerrigan. And sylvannas.
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>>738184064
if you havent noticed yet /v/ is increasingly filled with browns who hate anything that they cant get for free because they cant afford it
Thats why we have some many gachafags too, theyre all F2P games
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>>738188486
>$1 has been deposited in your blizzard balance
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>>738151472
Why is there no general for this game?
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>>738152713
>No one cares about the story
You would not say that if people were praising the story as the second coming of Shakespeare.
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>>738188486
This. I was in a few threads for certain early access/open beta games and it’s filled with people shit talking the game yet begging for free codes all the while.
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>>738151472
holy FUCK THEY COOKED this is actually god tier now. Cube is best crafting in any arpg out rn too.
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>>738188571
There is, it's on >>>/vm/ because gacha generals push it off the bottom of vg.
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>>738184064
Its hard to really point to anything good about D4 or its expansion. Its pretty much just a bad version of D2 or PoE that offers nothing unique. I would unironically say a game like Vampire Survivors has done more for the genre than D4 ever will.
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>>738182778
Nta but D4 is even worse. You always have the same build
>auto attack for resource
>aoe clearer
>single target
>dodge/dash/jump/teleport
>defensive
>ultimate
Thats 80% of builds. And thats a complex build, some of the best builds are literally 1 button.
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>>738188640
>Cube is best crafting in any arpg out rn too.
I still don't understand it
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>>738188774
That’s a lot more than most games. Then again my gauge for complexity is FFXIV at max level.

In POE2, I would only use two attacks just from how effective spacing and ranged attacks are. In D4, at least with rogue, I’m doing exactly that same setup you described while keeping distance.
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>>738188928
Because these games and similar are garbage.
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When Lilith said she split the weapon into three shards, I groaned.
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What kind of person do you imagine plays arpgs, like how is it possible to sink so low as to play diablo 4? I just don't get it.
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>>738152713
retard
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>>738189192
You know the guys in school who got D or Fs? Those ones. ARPGs are great for them because they require no skill, thought or effort. You just move forward holding down a button and watching the game give you loot for it.
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>>738158068
D2 cared about story because it is the endgame now in D4 because they are shit at story telling they decided their endgame revolves around copying poe's endgame systems because they are the pinnacle of the ARPG space
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>>738157909
IN A DIABLO GAME? HUUUWAAAAAT
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>>738158068
Blizzard cant write. Everyone knows this. Buying a blizzard game for the story is like watching porn for the plot.
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>>738158068
it's just retards with too much time on their hand and no idea what to do with it. they don't care about a good story, because even a good story would last for maybe 20-40 hours.
they'd be back to having no idea what to do after a week.
what they want is endless grind-slop
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>>738189246
>copying poe's endgame systems
D3 did it before PoE1
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Nah I’ve got faith in this game man. The OST is phenomenal and the bosses are starting to get better and better.

The expansion feels like I’m playing Gladiator.
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they have a fan base of shit eaters, theyll continue to eat shit and allow themselves to be fucked in the ass repeatedly
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>>738172570
what?
I always kept my old shit in D2 and D3 whenever a season reset
I just didn't get any of the new fancy stuff
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>>738188820
I didn't look up a guide it's actually pretty straight forward. For example I got a 900 ilvl yellow leg armor and I wanted a leg unique for my druid so I downgraded it to white, then I gambled that white to a unique and it gave me the unique I needed. Transfigure is corrupting orb from poe where you rng shit, you can get an extra affix or change every affix to something else. If you transmute 5 boss trophys you get a random unique from their loot table. The cube is actually insane and I can't believe diablo team of all retards implemented it, microsoft fixed these retards FOR SURE it's genuinely a poe 2 contender now, it's like a Solo self found focused poe 2 cause a lot of poe is trading for your gear which is really gay imo. I really like the game now.
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>>738189638
Hes retarded and thinks seasons are normal or good.
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Should have been a branching story where you join Inarius or Lilith. The story literally proved that Lilith didn't do anything wrong.
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>>738189702
Any other tips? You sound knowledgeable. I never played poe
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>>738189531
Let's not talk about D3 it was trash
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>>738176771
Lilith wasn’t misunderstood at all, hell the game gives you a chance to agree with her a few times in LoH and if you do, the game more or less calls you a retard.
Also, “Angels are giant dicks” has been a major plot point since D2.
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>>738189821
The basic feature of it is removing or adding affixes to your yellow gear, you can also upgrade yellows to legendary to fish for aspects you need.
You can reroll talismans to fish for the other pieces of the set you need etc. I'm still figuring it out too but those have been my main uses. Also you can reroll 3 of the same unique to a new one if you wanna fish for better stats and affixes. You can also reroll the unique aspect to a different value.
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>>738189089
She didn’t split it, Rathma did. In fact, Rathma was trying to straight up destroy it but that was the best he could do.
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>>738151472
Naw. You are all retarded as fuck. When I found out the first DLC / expansion would be additional money on top of the 99 I paid on launch. I said FUCK YOU. And have not played since, deleted the game, and if blizzard does not release some awesome game soon, I will do a chargeback, recoup my 99 bucks, and never look back.
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>>738151472
>it's the year 2026 and "people" still willingly give blizzard money
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>>738176771
>>Angels are actually le bad
They aren't as bad as demon's. The point is that they just not really care about humanity which is a breed of Demon's for them. They never wage war against humanity. Except maybe Malthael but he had his reasons. Also Izual but he was corrupted.
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>>738189246
Is that fucking Vice?
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>playing d4
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>>738190041
I think it said he was thinking about destroying it but had a vision of it coming to use and after much deliberation he decided not to destroy it
not that he couldn't.
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>>738190003
>Also you can reroll 3 of the same unique to a new one
See stuff like that is really confusing for me. But bow I know to keep uniques I don't need instead of salvaging them. Thanks!
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Why the fuck the they kill Rathma offscreen if he's so important to the story???
Are they retarded?
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>>738152713
>one cares about the story
Why put 90% filler of 18h lenght into it then?
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>>738190156
The whole point of RoS was “this is what would happen if the Angles decided to invade Sanctuary like the Demons do.”
And seeing as how he apparently wiped out like, 80% of Humanity with just him and his small army, it probably wouldn’t go well if the rest of the council joined him.
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>>738190468
I actually forgot what Malthael's problem was kek
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>>738189734
I didn’t mind it. Inarius was just some crazy guy in D2. I feel like the story needs a mother figure at this sort of juncture when it starts concerning the whole of sacrurary and not just a town or an island.
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how do I farm set talismans??
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Opinions on the season model most of the ARPGs have?
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>>738190864
Kill monsters
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>>738190887
Gacha idiocy. Obviosly gearing up is the fun part in this, but doing the same shit over and over is lunacy.
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>>738190541
If I remember right, he was always the one Angel on the council that had the lowest view of Humanity, that we are basically just another form of demons. And when Diablo almost shattered the Crystal Arch at the end of D3, it sort of radicalized him into thinking it’s time to enact the Final Solution for Humans.
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>>738190887
I like is as long as they use whatever seasonal quirks they make to improve the game in some form
if they make a season and then completely disregard everything about it after then it feels pointless
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>>738190569
>Inarius was just some crazy guy in D2
Where does Inarius appear in D2?
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>>738190972
Sounds reasonable
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are pets fucking bugged why is this faggot not on my screen picking garbage up for me half the time this expansion?? It's equipped
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>>738193070
they've always been slow but it feels like they're extra slow now
but there's a bunch of new drops they don't pick up either because they take up inventory slots
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>>738193235
they aren't even here for me it's not about slow. Like sometimes he's on my screen sometimes he isn't there the fuck is going on.
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>>738188486
>if you havent noticed yet /v/ is increasingly filled with browns who hate anything that they cant get for free because they cant afford it
But they're the biggest consoomers of them all.
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>>738193770
Anyone using the poorfag argument to defend shit optimisation, retarded console decisions etc is unironically a brown themselves statistically. It's brand loyalty fanboys and hired "influencers".
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Just beat the expansion last night. The Mephisto fight was cool, Warlock is pretty cool especially after you unlock Demonform skills.
I just find it refreshing that a video game had an actual ending in 2026 and didn't set up another expansion.
The new endgame activities look tedious as fuck. I'll try them out in a few days, the battle passes doesn't have anything I want.
The only thing I didn't like is they make a big deal about burning down the Tree for Whispers to still be a thing in the end game.
How hard is it to make a new NPC to carry on essentially the same systems?
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>>738193070
They don't pick up items just materials and gold.
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>>738151472
>itt retards falling for nublizzard yet again
when will you drones learn?
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>>738189246
The more you care about the story, the more you care about the fucking.
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>>738194101
Sure wasn't suspicious that previous D4 threads all died before 50 posts and then suddenly there are D4 threads every day with the usual corpospeak "i'm having a blast" posts littered throughout.
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>>738181956
You'll get yours one day
I'm fucking baffled that the ONLY modern ARPG with power shifting (replete with unique skills in each forrm) is fucking Last Epoch
None of this "you still have the exact same amount of buttles as a regular class but one turns you into a dog and the other, a wolf that's the case of D4 and PoE2.
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Alright so if all the men models are grug and all the women models are fucking ugly, who the fuck is buying cosmetics for this game?
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>>738193934
there's a side quest after the story line with someone having a vision of the future and mentioning terror
can't be sure if that's setting up diablo 5 or the next d4 expansion with diablo being the big bad
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The story was cringekino, though. I laughed my ass off at Lilith's animu-ass sacrifice scene.
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>>738194171
>game doesn’t have a lot of new content, people stop talking about it
>game gets a brand new expansion, everyone starts talking about it
And a brown retard like you will see this and immediately come to the conclusion that “ITS SHILLS IT’S ALL SHILLS SHILL SHILLING SHILLS TO SHILLS AHHHHHHHH”
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>>738194259
I feel they can milk D4 for years, the only reason to make a D5 is for an console exclusive for Xbox
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>paying for anything from blizzard
>expecting anything good
where have you been the last 20 years anon?
it have been 20 years since fucking tbc
you should have learned already enough times
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>>738194259
There are items in the expansion with the flavor text "Hatred begets Destruction begets Terror begets Hatred."

That implies that Baal is up next.
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>>738188774
>Thats 80% of builds.
90% of endgame builds are
>resource spender that doesn't need resources anymore because reasons
>buff support 1
>buff support 2
>buff support 3
>ult
>mobility skill
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>watch streamer play this game
>he doesn't want to do endgame boss at a high difficulty because then he can't oneshot the boss and have to play the game and dodge mechanics
This is why ARPGs suck ass because either the boss oneshots you or you oneshot them, and if you don't, just grind more lol.
What would happen if you removed all "reduce damage taken" abilties and effects so we can have some uniform difficulty between the classes and items?

The most memorable fight I played was the rathma one I believe on d4 launch and it took me like 50 tries, all bosses should be like that
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>>738194441
would be nice to go to westmarch again. I'd bet baal would be there after mathael caused all that destruction
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>>738194390
>Anything blizzard in 2026
Yeah it's a shill or a bottom barrel fanboy, functionally the same.
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>>738194441
Also there’s a bit of a cycle going on across all the games. Diablo gets taken down, Mephisto rises. Mephisto gets taken down, Baal rises. Baal fucking explodes at the end of D2, Diablo comes back as some weird Spider thing in heels and almost kills Heaven, etc.
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>>738194540
Westmarch is apparently now a giant, cursed ghost town that will never recover. Malthael wasn’t around long, but he really did a number on humanity in general.
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>>738194654
sure but tyrael spending so much time there must mean there's some remnants to fight for
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>>738194493
yeah its a shame, a bunch of these bosses have actual mechanics but the optimal faming strategy doesn't involve actually fighting them
many such cases
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>>738151472
You expected anything good out of blizzard?
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>>738161086
so does that mean that you don't need to even buy VoH?
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Is it true that you have to pay to unlock parts of the skilltree?
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what do you do with non set charms like yellows just dismantle?? can't upgrade to green?
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>>738195052
there might be builds that would benefit from a bunch of +3 skills more than set charms
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>>738195050
there is the base game diablo 4 with its old skills, and some of the new skills were added for the expansion

you can see them in the base game but they are greyed out unless you buy the expansion, so its very insulting to the extremely poor shitbrown third worlders who cannot afford $40 or whatever up upgrade the game they mindlessly grind all day long
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>>738195052
you dismantle them for materials so you can reroll your good set charms
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>>738195179
+Skills isn’t nearly as good as it was pre LoH (it’s still good, but before it was kinda the end all be all of stats) and Set Charms can roll +Skills regardless.
As far as I can tell, Rare charms are vendor/salvage trash after you get the set charms.
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>massively dumbed down the skill tree
Death to all devs and idea guys and testers and (((executives))) who think passive skills and +% skills are bad
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>>738195630
Those percentage bonuses and passives are what you get from the paragon board and glyphs, anon. There's no reason to have those in the ability tree.
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>>738195485
i'm torment 8 and only have 1 set charm of the build I need how the fuck do I find green charms? I don't have a tribute to buff the drop or a nightmare dungeon and I tried rerolling my others. The fuck.
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I enjoy D4. I got a solid week of entertainment from the expansion, which is more than I can ask for from most modern games.
The progression makes sense and was easy to figure out without any type of guides. Uniques are good and interesting and power up builds a lot. Making alts is rewarding and fun with high level tempers letting you power level quickly. High torments gives you ridiculous loot explosions.
It's not nearly as autistic as path of exile 1 or 2, which is good for me, because if its too autistic I will get sucked into an autism black hole and disappear for months at a time. I felt like I kicked the shit out of this game after raping all the bosses on T8 and can be done with it.
Overall it has a satisfying gameplay loop with various ways to 'loop' farms of specific things in specific ways. It definitely sucked and was barebones at release, but its a complete game now and easily competes with other decent arpgs on the market.
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>>738195630
my dude, paragon boards have all the +passives bullshit you could ever want with all the autism you could ever went with zone buffing using glyphs

>>738195838
You should do warplans, the warplan reward always drops set charms, and the crow rewards often offer you talismans.

Im not sure how you could be lacking loot in T8, I have too much fucking loot to deal with I legit just melt everything without looking at it already unless its got greater affixes
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>You can only level up activities if you do them in a war plan

Who the fuck thought of this? If I prefer a certain activity, I'm at the mercy of the war plans to actually get to play it if I want to also level it.
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>>738195838
warplans and obelisk seem to get a lot for me
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>>738196161
It seems a bit strange. They said warplans are so you can do the endgame content that's actually fun to you but here I am forced to do helltides every other run anyway.
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What the fuck is wrong with the average blizzard drone that makes them act like this?
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>Weapon hide function STILL doesn't work
At this point I think they are getting off on withholding that shit.
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>>738196526
remember that pic of turning fans into brand loyalist and whatever else?
well . that
same shit that happened to everyone defending any company/franchise nowdays
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>>738194546
At least it's not Warcraft or Starcraft-related. That's real blizzdrone territory.
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Should I even bother with these games if I don't care about seasons?
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>>738197746
if you've never played an arpg you should start with free/pirated ones first
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>>738198086
I played D2, titan quest and sacred 1 eons ago I just don't really see the appeal of seasons
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>>738198161
they add new game mechanics
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>>738151472
Why? It's Blizzard, why would you give them any money?
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>>738151472
why would you buy this garbage
>>738152713
>No one cares about the story. The class overhauls and new content is what people care about
no one gives a fuck about diablo 4 you dipshit, you bought some actual dogshit
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>>738158068
Diablo IP post Diablo 3 has completely mindbroken it's fans into not giving a fuck about the story and just being a low effort slot machine simulator.
No diablo 4 player is actually playing a game, they are just meat with eyes rolling their hands across the keyboard to fullscreen clear in 0.5 seconds into teleporting to the next pack to clear that in 0.5 seconds all while loot pinatas bing bing wahoo bukkake all over the screen
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>>738198814
That's the genre
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>>738179691
whoever designed Lilith with heterochromia needs to leave art forever
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>>738198814
Launch d4 was barebones, this expansion seems like it plays more like megabonk a game made by one guy
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>>738179691
>>738179965
>>738199113
You can tell it's 100% marketing because if people actually liked lillith they would have posted a lot more R34 pics of her in every thread.
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>>738199057
Not entirely, Diablo 3 RoS completely redesigned the loot system to emulate a slot machine.
Getting loot in a video game is obviously supposed to give you dopamine, but when the entire experience is defined by near constant loot pinata bukkake with zero effort put in by the player, that's a slot machine
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Did they hire a fucking weeb to direct these cutscenes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrghDNLOZ7A
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>>738199396
Diablo 4 is written, directed, and designed by some of the cringiest quirk chungus millennials ever given a job
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>>738199518
I wouldn't say that, since the reveal cinematic was absolute Diablo kino. It had just the right atmosphere.

I really think there was a change in direction at some point, probably after the base game.
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>>738167491
>It takes 3-4 days to max out a character
This is a bigger issue than people realize, combined with the modern arpg formula of every class having a mobility skill that blinks around the screen and explodes enemies in technicolor nonsense, means that you don't have any real investment in your character or how your build works. You no longer make a summoner necro because you want to, you do it because "they are so OP this season" It makes for a shallow experience.
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>>738199869
D4 sucks if you are slow though.
Making everything fast is the only way to make this game fun.
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>>738199869
Metaslaving is a choice, though. Plenty of builds are viable, the only difference is in clear time, and if you actually enjoy playing the game you won't care about minutes.
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>>738199396
This is the only cutscene in this expansion with any kind of impact.
All the others are boring at best.
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>>738199971
>Blink/blink/blink/blink
>NUKE NUKE
>loot yess/no
>save and reload
>repeat
so much fun...
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>>738200030
>Metaslaving is a choice, though
A "meta" is not even established yet.
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>>738200068
I guess evoking uncontrollable laughter does count as an impact.
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>>738200117
>>save and reload
Never happens. This is not D2.
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>>738199869
I made a Deathblow based Barb because I wanted to, using a set that nobody online has even mentioned and I’ve solo killed every T11 Boss except for Uber Mephisto. And the only thing stopping me from doing that in T12 is I’m too lazy to fully optimize my gear.
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>>738199724
>I wouldn't say that, since the reveal cinematic was absolute Diablo kino
That was designed by the Witcher 3 writer, everything else was by the worst people imaginable.
He originally had a lot more content written for the game, but Blizzard axed it because they didn't think it was appropriate to have women being put in "sensitive situations" after their lawsuit
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>>738200138
You sure about that?

https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/endgame-tier-list
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>>738200213
Link?
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>>738199396
i remember thinking "when did this turn into an anime?" on multiple occasions
great music tho
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>>738200292
>linking maxroll
Go and look at the "Z-Tier" of your own link you fucking retard
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>>738199971
Diablo 4 isn't fun period
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>>738200407
where's the expansion you faggot niggers?
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>>738200407
I can't wait for the new expansion, gonna be good.
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>>738200379
It does have parts that are fun
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>>738200372
>It's not a complete meta so there is no meta

Alrighty then
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>>738200030
>and if you actually enjoy playing the game
Nobody actually enjoys playing this game
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>>738200407
yes
a mod that replaces the hideous as fuck UI
a fucking miracle to make the game look good instead of a fucking dumpster
the fucking expac
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>>738200407
>Grim Yawn
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>>738200464
No it isn't, you have a gambling addiction and are too embarrassed to go to a casino
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>>738200497
>a mod that replaces the hideous as fuck UI
You mean new UI?
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>>738200294
It’s not exactly the same but quite similar to this (I’d use Dark Stalkers as either the Amulet or Unique Charm slot)
https://maxroll.gg/d4/planner/r24ivw0u

Also, I am looking for a good Overkill/Third Blade to go All-In on Deathblow, but haven’t really found either.
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>>738200407
Titan quest 2 would be nice. No, don't bother with that EA game wearing the skin. I'm going to give it a glance if it releases
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>>738200407
considering that this game is made by like 3 people with the budget of a sandwich and it still absolutely mogs every aRPG in the market is quite something
>>738200883
Crate isn't making TQ2.
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>>738200497
>the hideous as fuck UI
I've played for 1000hrs + and never given a thought to it, what do you find so objectionable?
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>>738200407
>"Come with me loser, we are saving the genre."
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>>738200918
>Crate isn't making TQ2
I know, but it would be nice.
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>>738151472
Don't worry, they put out another $50 "fix" to the game next year.
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>he a good boy he dindu nuffin wrong
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>>738200870
Also, used Tidal Aspect on your 2H, and temper Damage Per Overpower on one 2H and your Gloves. That combined with the Dominator Glyph is one of the biggest damage multipliers in the entire game.
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Is it possible to build druid around storm strike? It feels like basic abilities cannot carry a build.
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>>738201784
>druid
why
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>>738201610
SEXO
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>>738201610
>nice feminine curves on the angel
>the demon whore Warlock is built like a fridge
hmmm I think Blizzard might be biased!
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this game still suffer from writers with extreme daddy issues who try to make heaven seem just as bad as hell and angels and demons the same?
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>>738202146
No. You never played it.
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>>738202146
That's the central message of this expansion lmao

Basically, the story ends in the notion that Sanctuary is for humanity and they should shun both sides of the Eternal Conflict.
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>>738158068
read a book nigger
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>>738202304
>you never played it
shut up shill and kill yourself
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>>738202304
Sadly blizz drone i did.

>>738202329
Fuck i was hoping the paladin would mean they left behind the really cringe reddit fence sitter writing.
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>>738202146
How hard do they have to spell it out for you? Sanctuary is for Mankind, and we need to take control and cut our ties with both sides of the conflict that either want to use us (demons) or genocide us without mercy (heaven).
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>>738202372
Then pay attention when the story happens, retard. Angels are not "just as bad as demons"
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>>738158068
Because ARPGs are hamster wheels.
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>>738202417
All those angels who we were fighting with and helping in D3 didn't seem like they wanted to genocide us... hmmmm.... i wonder if this is just a new fag plot point for d4... hmmm
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>>738202146
correct
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>>738158068
>There's a fucking campaign. Why can't it be good?
because its blizzard
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>>738202492
>Angiris council literally was one vote off from genociding all of mankind.
>Malthael and all his angels genocided 99% of sanctuary and got us into the mess we're in in D4. They single handedly killed more humans than any demon combined ever.
>Inarius sent thousands into their deaths because he thought he could redeem himself and enter heaven again.
Hmmm.... meanwhile we got a trickster demon in skovos that saves children from the hands of traffickers and loves heroes that save the day. And Lillith who cut her connection to the world to reform in hell to save you not before helping you banish a prime evil to the void. Not a single named angel even tried to help us in D3 in the midst of fighting our ways through heaven. Auriel didn't lift a finger, Imperius tried to tell us off and even Tyraels old lieutenant sided with diablo to kill us.
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>>738201610
>>738202047
SEX WITH ANGELS
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>>738151472
This genre can nerver be good again. Its is forver subdued by a large group that just wants to keep playing D2 forver, and if the game deviates too much from it, then the hate is massive.
Any kind of experimentation, swap and genre mix receives death treats.
Its all about going fast, watching things explode, and make some cool math for great farm results. Optimizing while paying attention to something else, like a podcast, some kind of super solitaire.
These people do not care about the story because they are paying attention to other stuff while they play.
So, just repaint D2 again. Nothing else to do.
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I hate it so fucking much when quests bug out and you have to restart the game and start from the beginning
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>>738202724
>No matter the vote they never tried to actually destroy mankind
>Malthael
>imperius helped you against him
Again in D3 you are helping the angels against demons and even against Malthaels reapers.


And don't you dare us nuwriting from slop like D4 as examples you little nigger.
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>>738202724
And yet, an angel is responsible for the continued existence of humanity across several demonic attempts at their destruction.
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>>738202724
The trickster demon didn’t save those kids, they had all already died, he was just using their corpses to trick other pirates into his trap.
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>>738203030
Except he's mortal and not an angel
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>>738203030
>Tyrael
>Angel
pick 1
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>>738202925
videogames story have been shit for decades
its not about the genre. its about the industry being shit
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>>738202724
>actually falling for someone known as a trickster demon
bro...
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>>738202925
>This genre can never be good again. Its is forever subdued by a large group that just wants to keep playing Diablo 3 forever
ftfy

DIablo 3 RoS is what killed the genre, it was designed from the bottom up to no longer be a game, but just a simple slot machine.
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>>738203030
Tyrael is a humanophile though
he even willingly dropped his angelic nature to be more like us
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>>738203094
>>738203093
Bet you guys believe in trannies too, sorry he was born an angel lived most of time as angel he does not just become a human, he is a human shell with an angels mind and soul.
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>>738153000
NTA but i bought Destiny 2 at launch. can't get much more retarded than that.
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>>738201610
>>738202761
Phollos got to fuck this, btw
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>>738157909
you're retarded for thinking the story had any hope of being anything other than Dogshit after 3 happened.
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>>738203304
>Phollos
More like Phallus am I right? xD
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>>738203093
>>738203094
He is still the aspect of Wisdom, a title which he claimed by, per his own words, "once more taking his place among his brethren". Which implies that he is still very much aligned with Heaven.
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>>738200407
not look like dogshit
better UI
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>>738203382
>Aspect of Wisdom
Wasn’t that Mathael? Did he lose his title for going all Reaper on Humanity’s ass or something?
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>>738203382
>Which implies that he is still very much aligned with Heaven.
The heavens didn't give 2 shits about him in all his years on earth though.
Just like they didn't care about Inarius.
Maybe something is happening in the high heavens that we don't know?
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>>738203551
>earth
*Sanctuary
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>>738203551
Inarius was a victim of woman writers who hate their dates using him as a insert for fathers.
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>>738203680
>>738203551
*dads
voice to text fucked me.
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>>738203746
>voice to text fucked me.
The fuck are you doing
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>>738203680
i don't understand why lilith made humanity and sanctuary with inarius when she clearly hates him and thinks he's a loser
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>>738203551
>Maybe something is happening in the high heavens that we don't know?
probably getting assraped by Diablo again because all angels suffer from terminal retardation
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>>738203382
The fucking lore of the Diablo universe after the Diablo 3 retcons has been an abortion.
The fact that you are even taking any of these dogshit retail WoW tier lore blurbs seriously is more of a statement about you at this point.
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>>738203791
She is a strong independent smart woman who need no man
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>>738203474
Tyrael picked it up after Malthael got bonked
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>Forevermore, we shall stand together. Angels and Men, in the light of this glorious new dawn.

t. Tyrael at the end of Diablo III
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>>738203791
>when she clearly hates him and thinks he's a loser
That only happened later.
Don't stick your dick in crazy bros
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>>738203791
who is easier to manipulate?
>the gigachad IMPERIVS
>the incel Inarius
women like Lilith exist IRL, who only have their husbands because they are pliable and have something they want but otherwise hate them with every fiber of their being
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>>738203551
>Maybe something is happening in the high heavens that we don't know?
WHO THE FUCK CARES, ITS ALL DOGSHIT
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>>738203786
Sitting outside drinking coffee and too lazy to type on the tablet.
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>>738204003
Based comfy Anon even too lazy to shitpost himself
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>>738203941
speaking of imperius he could've kicked some serious ass if he bothered to show up at all
>"Imperius, the archangel of Valor, is the greatest warrior in all of Creation. He revels in war and combat and has led the hosts of Heaven to innumerable victories. With Malthael's absence, it is Imperius who now rules over the Angiris Council, seeking always to defend the High Heavens from any foe."
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>>738203791
Inarius was a broken man who made the mistake of marrying a whore and it drained all the life out of him, i have seen it happen many times in real life.

If he just found a sweet tomboy paladin who loved him he would have had his soul and power restored.
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>>738203896
lmao, even jrpgs have better writing than this
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>>738204104
>Imperius
He's autistic though.
A strong retard.
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>>738199273
megabonk what the fuck. yall niggas will literally just say anything LOL. stupidest fucking comment ever written on this site
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>>738204112
>If he just found a sweet tomboy paladin who loved him
that's silly who could ever want something like that?
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>>738204104
We know he defeated non prime diablo before, his is just too much of a combat sperg.
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>>738204104
>the greatest warrior in all of Creation
>El'Diabolos(forma feminina) bodies him in under a second
>AAAAAAAAAARGH NEPHELEM SAVE MEEEEE
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>>738204190
>He's autistic though.
All angels are
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>>738204226
Femboy Diablo had all the Great Evils stuffed inside him
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>>738204207
>Woman actually showing happiness when they see their boyfriend
What a rare sight
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>>738204226
Didn't Diablo embody all three prime evils in that form? He was super juiced up.
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Imperius is my nigger and who i mained in heroes of the storm. Diablo has such fucking cool angels and they waste them with their blue haired faggot writers.
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>>738204341
And yet he was laid low by some skinny, naked African man throwing spiders and zombies at him.
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>>738203906
The writers sure forgot about that line quick lmao
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>>738204402
wouldn't you? spiders freak me out
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>discord poetroons are STILL seething over D4
this is how you know that tencent lost
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>>738204402
Protagonist plot armor
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>>738204413
Tyrael was always a bit aspirational in how Heaven would treat humans
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>>738204207
cringe
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>>738204402
Funny europe falls to their knees for the same thing
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>>738204402
If ever you played, Heroes of the Storm you would know to never underestimate the power of Big Bad Voodoo
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>>738204226
It wasn't just Diablo.
It was PRIME EVIL Diablo.
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>>738204482
or they needed a plot for d4 and the writers get the ick from racist stuff like holy themes so they just ignored that line and had it had literally nothing to do with anything in universe
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>>738204482
It doesn't even make sense, because clearly they welcomed Tyrael back into the fold, yet they have had no interaction after the fact. They've just completely ignored Heaven for the entirety of D4 unless you count Inarius, who is there only to "justify" Lilith's woman moments.
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>>738204748
>They've just completely ignored Heaven for the entirety of D4 unless you count Inarius
Inarius doesn't come from the High Heavens. He was held captive by Mephisto before D4 and somehow escaped to sanctuary.
His whole goal was to redeem his sins (creating sanctuary) and get back to the High Heavens, but they completely ignored him.
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>>738204195
Even people that play ARPGs love megabonk because at the base they are the same with a very simple infinitely scaling system, you expect more from a AAA developer was my point.
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>>738204997
that's a pretty sweeping generalization considering it's just more Survivorslop
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>>738204997
Megabonk was fucking awful.
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>>738204979
>using d4 "writing"
ahahahahahhahahha
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>>738204305
>>738204341
>>738204631
yet our PC in D3 beat the shit out of him and this caused Imperius to seethe harder than he ever had in his life
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>>738204997
Played megabonk for 10 minutes and my hair started to slowly turn into a curly perm. I'm not touching that shit again
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>>738205126
muh Nephalem infinitely scaling power levels
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>>738205126
Imperius is just tsundere, he sends angels to help you and even allows you to stop malthael..

Stupid mortal baka...
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>>738205110
He wasn't in the High Heavens even in and before D3. That's not D4 lore. It's from the Sin War novels which released in 2006.
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>>738205353
Does that book state he was held by mephisto and his motivation for making sanctuary?
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>>738205353
He is an angel though, which means that his origin is the high heavens. It doesn't matter if he is on their shitlist during the events of D4, he is still the only heaven adjacent thing in the entire game besides Tyrael.
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>>738205285
>Imperius descends and corners your fem Crusader
>"INSOLENT MORTAL, YOU HAVE..."
>"I have what?"
>"I..uhm...I left the stove on." *teleports away*
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>>738205652
>Hard cut to imperius screaming into a pillow
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>max out build with mythic equipment
>cannot do T10 because of simple math and blizzard decided the spec should be bad compared to something else
>realized flushed 20 hours down the drain essentially since no matter what, the spec cannot math its way to top
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>nu-dia
Its Joever
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>>738205650
>He is an angel though, which means that his origin is the high heavens
No, it isn't. Because the WHOLE POINT is that Inarius and Lilith abandoned heaven and hell to create sanctuary in secret because they were tired of the eternal conflict.
Inarius is not a representative of the High Heavens because he abandoned them first and now that he wants back in they don't care about him anymore.
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>>738205995
If diablo had good writers inarius would have realized his position as father of mankind and helped you in some self sacrifice against lilith, but we know who nublizzard handles male characters.
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>>738206123
I think he is consistent in the way they have written angels (as in, terminally retarded)
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>>738151472
lol anon, what a horrible mistake
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>>738206198
yeah woman can't write holy or honorable figures, its beyond them.
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>>738205585
>Does that book state he was held by mephisto and his motivation for making sanctuary?
Yes.
From the wiki:
>and the Angiris Council convened to decide the fate of the nephalem as well as Inarius. The Council agreed to an armistice between the High Heavens and the Burning Hells to allow time for the nephalem to mature and decide for themselves which side they would aid in their own free will. In this deal, Inarius was also taken into Mephisto's custody, presumably to be tortured for all eternity.[5]
Source is "The Veiled Prophet". Published 2007.
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>>738206242
what's Tyrael then
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>>738206282
Black so he is a good boy who din du nothing
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>>738206334
>holy and honorable figures don't count if they're black
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>>738206463
yeah well welcome to the modern leftist dichtomy
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>>738206463
Blacks are unable to experiance honor or being holy, you would know this if you had to live around them.

As for writing californian woman are unable to write blacks with any bad traits.
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>>738205995
Are you dense or something? His intentions do not make him something else than he is. He is an angel, and that means he is a creature of the high heavens. His disposition towards the heavens or its leadership is secondary to this fact.

Yes, he does not (or did not) agree with heaven, but he is OF heaven.
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>>738206697
You are talking to someone who thinks troons are woman.
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>>738206521
but Tyrael was created before the modern leftist dichotomy
>>738206620
and he was created by and largely written by a man
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>>738207050
Oh looks like we are already at the "pretending not to understand" part. Can you point out the big difference between Tyrael in diablo 2 compared to diablo 3?
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>>738206620
The guy who designed the D2 Paladin was black though
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>>738207050
Diablo 3 was around after obama was president cali was already infected and the breeding ground for nigger worship. In fact nothing from cali after the 80s is safe, the entire place is a shithole.
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>>738207429
As a character? Nothing.
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>>738151472
almost as embarassing as paying for the base game
diablo is dogshit
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>>738207429
>>738207558
This isn’t even a criticism of the games anymore, this is just straight up racism
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Inarius is insane because he spent like 5000 years being tortured by Mephisto. It is remarkable he didn't get corrupted and fall, but he is definitely (definitely) insane because of it, and it is implied that the trauma is the core of his being.
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>>738208227
Yeah so what? I'm a racist, I don't want to see niggers in anything.
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>>738208348
>It is remarkable he didn't get corrupted and fall
He broke and spilled the beans and all the secrets of sanctuary to Mephisto though. This made mommy Lilith really REALLY mad. She absolutely despises him now.
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>>738208227
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>>738151472
>I paid 40 bucks for this
You have nobody to blame but yourself.
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>>738209052
Man you must have really hated D2, where the Paladin was black and the Sorc was Indian
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>>738209160
Stop eating food covered in human shit rajesh
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>>738151472
no offline no buy.
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the only good thing blizzard does nowdays is the cutscenes
and i mean the real cutscenes not the shitty in-game crap they pretend its cutscenes
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>>738158068

Retards who still play Diablo-likes don't care about anything but the dopamine they get from pressing a button and watching the effects on screen as enemies explode and loot flies everywhere.
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>>738210030
LoH has basically none of those
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>>738151472
i liked it. hellfire locks are op. mephisto fight is kino too
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>>738151472
git BLIZZARD nerd
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>>738151472
Why is it cheaper than the previous expansion?
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>>738210502
It isn't
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>>738210282
>LoH has basically none of those
well fuck . my brother got me the expansion for my birthday but i have no hurry to play it
i'm playing persona 1
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I was clowning on you preorder retards before launch and the delusion was insane. You all fell for a dress up doll model previewer that has nothing to do with the actual game
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>>738199396
>Did they hire a fucking weeb to direct these cutscenes?
I wish they did
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>>738151472
>I paid 40 bucks for this
RETARD
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>>738151472
Are you retarded? D4 sucked since the beta what the fuck is wrong with you.
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>try to do echo lilith boss fight
>full of insta kill moves
>can't see shit because of necro minions
>moves have ambiguous hit boxes
goddamn retarded
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>>738200407
>$25
I don't play store brand games.
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>>738210974
Fashion is the entire endgame dude
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>>738214640
>fight has become piss easy over the years
>anon is still too dumb to do it
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>>738214992
record yourself doing it right now then
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>>738215159
I'll record my dick in your ass.
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My Skovos area region progress is at 65/67.
What little patch of the map am I missing?
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D4's end game is better than D2's
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>$40
whats the matter, thats like the hourly wage of someone whose halfway managing to survive in america these days, so you all should be able to afford it right??
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>>738215767
Nobody makes that much money. Everyone white is on a R9 280 and 2nd gen Core CPU with 4GB of RAM. The only people that can afford games and hardware are jeets.
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>>738215923
kek yeah every time i see a really really nice car its brown hands on the steering wheel what even is this country anymore
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>>738216045
>ironic shitpost
>poorfag takes it seriously
Every time.
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>>738215767
>YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR SHIT!?
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>>738166975
>its another "unfathombly powerful MC gets talked down to and ordered around by women while barely able to muster a spine" episode
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>you're brown
>no you're BROWN
>YOU'RE BROWN
>YOU. ARE. BROWN.
I sleep
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>>738216092
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>738216215
luckily i was just playing something and made the perfect screenshot for this momment
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>>738175840
>warlock
>shit
Everywhere I go the entire screen is just flaming niggerwhipper 9000's one shotting everything
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>>738216265
It was obvious my post was a shitpost unless you're underage. That's 90% of the GPU threads.
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>>738176826
>just as evil
No I don't accept that apathetic or hateful towards is anywhere near as evil as "wants to flay your flesh off and torture you while twisting your flesh into an abomination". Millenials being obsessed with shades of grey has been a disaster.
>>
Can we just agree Demon Mommy is sex?
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>>738216489
>GPU thread
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>>738216683
>PUG thread
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>>738216816
Your "shitposting" is not even funny. It's just pure retardation. Seeking attention. A cry for help. Mental illness.
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>>738216996
>Your "shitposting" is not even funny. It's just pure retardation. Seeking attention. A cry for help. Mental illness.
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>>738190972
I believe Malthael abstained during tryeal's vote on the killing all humans but he had some vision from the waters and disappeared. Apparently he wandered pandemonium and sanctuary going mad seeing what humanity was capable of with things like the black soulstone and how they almost fell to the evils several times already. He knew that the demons were always playing fuck fuck games with the hands off agreement and the angels weren't going to intervene so at somepoint he becomes the aspect of death and comes up with the plan to kill humanity before hell is able to corrupt them and get an army of nephalem on their side.
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>>738217091
Not a bad plan imo.
They realized humanity can be strong as shit in base D3.
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>>738217194
Yeah in the grand scheme the Angels don't really have anything quite like the evils' corruption. Their nature makes them aloof and above humanity so to Malthael humanity represented a game winning weapon the angels refused to use that the demons wanted to use. Too bad for him the D3 MC was goofy levels of strong.
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Thread didn't turn out too bad after all



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