I have literally never played a game with such atrocious difficulty designyou literally spend the entire time just running away
lower the difficulty
>>738169929Please no toxicity against the casuals. The game doesn't need them throwing another temper tantrum and review bombing the game for the billionth time.
>>738169720>the melee enemies should stay back! Fuck me, I only play on medium difficulty and even I can see that you're a terminal shitter
>>738169720just play deep rock galactic instead
>>738169720If you find yourself doing this, it's a skill issue.
>>738169720AH don't want you to solve combat or ever feel like you can git gud.Knew they were retarded after they made it so you can't roast chargers with the flamethrower.
>>738169720the best player i ever saw was a guy who ran from literally everything and just threw stratagems and at the objective. he did this solo and finished every adjective in like 5 mins without getting hit once
A godlike figure gives enemies adaptations to any strategy you use after a week so engaging with the enemy is retarded
Lower the difficulty.
>>738172542Yep this is how you play the game most effectively and apparently how arrowhead wants you to play it. By removing every incentive to engage with combat, nerfing everything to be trash while ignoring gamebreaking AI bugs, bad spawning behaviour and other ancient annoying issues. In this game you want to ditch your team mates as fast as possible and just rush the objectives while running away from every fight.And the best part? Because kiting doesn't appear in any metrics and players hate it - arrowhead will never nerf it or do anything about it. The 100% nerf proof way to play this game in the most boring way imaginable; the arrowhead way.
>>738169720Take that, fascism!
>>738169929this, OP probably fought against the new bugs, without the right gear or strategy you would have to go way below dif 6.
>>738169720Let me help you.>gas mines>flame mines>thermite>the senator>Heavy armor penetrating main weaponThere, go nuts and enjoy max difficulty. Go play with your bugs. Put whatever you enjoy in your other stratagems. My suggestions? Orbital laser, biggest kilogram bomb, turrets are nice, obviously restock is needed solo if you're playing solo. The gas drone is also quite helpful if you're solo. Kill the bugs that spawn more as quickly as possible if you spot them roaming around.
The devs hate the players its very obvious
>>738173104yeah this is my problem with it desu, the gameplay is so shit at high difficulty because you just run away from everything, and all the enemies are coded to just go in your direction.i unironically think it has some of the worst ai in the game, they dont do patrols organically that let you stealth around or pick and choose your fights,
>>738173659They dont hate the players that buy their warbonds
>>738172753>hey 99.9999999999999 percent done with Save the Earth 96 >faggot game master didn't want us to win so he calls it a lossThis game is so gay
>>738173361So retarded ammo inefficient and the stratagem suggestions are so dogshit you wouldn't survive 5 minutes on a hive world
>>738172542>>738173104>>738173694>be shit at game>find way to cheese it>bitch about how "ARROWHEAD WANTS THIS"riiiiiight
>no you can't have armor transmog because uhh realism>we removed your ability to get on highground with invisible magic walls cause it was unfair to the enemies
>>738172239>Deep reddit galacticLmao
>>738173864Arrowhead happily removes and/or discourages every other way to play the game while making kiting and running better and better. You tell me which gameplay they apparently prefer!
>>738173970There is a middleground between running away and destroying all enemies with impunity, one where you can survive but it takes effort. Effort that you are clearly unable to exert.
>>738173889They pull the realism card only when it actively harms the player.
>>738173970>Players: helldivers? More like rundivers!>Arrowhead adds bug subfaction that's too fast to run away from.>Players: NOOOOO THIS IS HECKIN' UNFAIR!! WHY ARE THE BUGS FASTER THAN ME!!!! NERF THESE BUGS NOW!!!!*Review bombs the game for the millionth time.
>>738173889>>we removed your ability to get on highground with invisible magic walls cause it was unfair to the enemiesThat's the most retarded shit ever, because you can't even beat 90% of missions by just camping on a high ground
>>738174062Not true. Bot lasers and rockets used to be deadly, now they just tickle the player. That's not very realistic at all.
Please don't insult this game, 4chan and reddit joined hands in how much they love this game!
>>738173889>Oh you wanna throw a stratagem on that part of the map?>Nu uh it will now bounce somewhere and be useless haha>Buy our new warbound it has an expendable gas launcher or something
>>738174031Lower the difficulty if you have to put in "effort" to play this game. Or press shift + W every once in a while.
>>738169720>Running away from enemy drops/breaches/warps instead of helping.Yes, you are the kind of gamer i like to kick from squads for being dead weight.What makes this game difficult is bad players like op who aren't team players
>>738173694Patrols spawn in an area around players and go in a straight line towards the location the player that spawned the patrol was in when the spawn happened. This means that if you stay moving, the patrols will never directly cross your path.
>>738174202Effort as in you have to actually place your shots and know what stratagems to use and when. As opposed to using something like pre-nerf railgun or breaker.The point I was trying to make is that if you think the only modes of gameplay the game has is running away or mowing things down without even trying, then you are too bad to use the weapons (that are not utterly broken) and stratagems the game has in a manner to facilitate your survival.
>>738174068>Arrowhead adds bug subfaction that's too fast to run away from.>also doubles the patrols amount>also spawn diminution is still here>also the whole idea of 'difficulty' is still 'spawn more enemies'>also 500kg is useless as fuck, half of the weapons are useless as fuck, ragdolls are total bullshit, stratagems bounce is total bullshit
>>738173970The thing is you're half right. The game doesn't punish splitting up and the overwhelming majority of enemies have no way of actually catching players who are just jogging away. The issue is you're framing it like people only split up and run away because the combat is hard. It's not, the enemies are fucking weak as hell and the player arsenal has only gotten more and more overpowered since well over a year ago now.Players aren't splitting up and running away because the enemies are too hard. They're doing it because there is literally nothing stopping them. Spawns don't even fucking work for anyone besides the host and the majority of the team will never encounter any enemies while they solo objectives. The game is not hard, it's too fucking easy due to bad game design. Anyone complaining that the game is all about running away because the enemies are too strong and the weapons are too weak is unironically a fucking retard and should switch from video games to an activity that requires no hand-eye coordination.
>>738174105Rockets were bugged. They had a chance to hit the player multiple times which is why they didn't always one shot you.
>>738174432>500kg and 50% of guns are uselessShitter >NOOOOOOO! THE HIGH DIFFICULTY MODES HAVE TOO MANY ENEMIES!!! THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!!!lower the difficulty
>>738174105Bot lasers are a projectile and like any other projectile, they can headshot. Every time you take huge damage from a laser shot, it means you got domed. Every shot that doesn't hit you in the head deals almost negligible damage.
Last time I played this game I just shitposted in /hdg/ and queued low diffs to show scrubs how easily I could speedrun the missions.
>>738174202as usual, faggots whining about helldivers oscillate between>WAHHHH GAME TOO EASY I JUST RUN EVERYWHERE WHY DOES ARROWHEAD DO THIS?and>WAHHHHHH IF I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING BUT CHEESE IT THINGS ARE TOO HARD WAAHHHHH WHY DOES ARROWHEAD DO THIS?
>>738174492Pic for the patch notes about it. This was back in apr 2024
>>738174542500kg IS useless because of blast shape.
>>738169720I seriously wish this game never released. I got bored of it in like a week but my normie friends have continued to bug me to play it constantly for the past 2 years. Why do they always have to attach themselves to the most mid games for years.
>>738173723they especially hate those players for funding the game and forcing them to keep working on it
>>738174369No anon, what you're doing is making up your own game in a very specific way. You're scraping up the dogshit that Arrowhead couldn't bother with, as if HD is a sandbox and you deliberately play the game in a challenging and suboptimal snd discouraged way.A good developer would reward you and encourage you to play that way. Arrowhead rewards you for not doing it.
>have a perfect launch >get sabotaged by Sony and community trust gets fucked>fix that problem and get that trust back>still fuck up in the end with post launch support with shitty, inconsistent patchesWhat the fuck happened
>>738174602Kiting isn't cheese it's obviously the intended way to play considering we just got another broken OP kiting light armour on top of Arrowhead refusing to design any gameplay elements that encourage killing enemies or holding your ground.Or fixing 2 year old issues with enemy spawns, reworking patrols, giving incentives not to split up etc.
>>738173659I wish they hated them enough to just tank this shit game so that I wouldn't have to hear about it ever again.
portugal did this
>>738174787>SuboptimalAnything that clears the mission is viable, and like 90% of the stuff in the game is perfectly capable of clearing missions up to at least diff 9. Why would you only want to play in the most optimal way possible, anyway? That gets boring after a few missions. I usually don't play more than one or two missions with the same loadout.
>>738169720Skill issue.
>devs dont play anything above D7>no playtests>"high diffs are gigantic mess"wonder why
>>738175208You're missing the point and arguing against some argument that isn't mine. I repeat myself here:A good developer would reward you and encourage you to play that way.
>>738172528>you can't roast chargers with the flamethrowerBut you CAN roast chargers. What are you talking about?
>>738174432>too fast to run away fromSkill issue.
>>738175321But they do? I can play the game using anything I want to and still succeed. What do you want them to do?
>>738175313I play D10. The game is easy. You zoomers are just bad at videogamest.47 year old unc
>>738175337If they reverted it then I'm even more right.AH are morons and don't understand how to make a video game.
>>738173361>paid solution>paid solution>paid solution>paid solution>2 potential paid solutionsSo let me get this straight. In order to have fun in their game with their new, well balanced content, you need to pay them to win or play at a difficulty that doesnt expose you to half the creatures/objectives/content. The shitters might be justified with this tantrum.
>>738175425Yes anon you can play the game in any shitty way you want. I'm so proud of you. They could start by fixing host based spawns, ai bugs regarding hosts, discourage splitting up and rewarding you for grouping, adding incentives to fighting off breaches or literally do anything to reward you for picking fights at all.A good developer would do that. A bad one would sell another OP kiting armour for 1000SC.
>>738175313They hate players who take the game seriously because they have to put thought and work into the game for them
They should really just compress everything into no more than 5 difficulties and then use the planet modifiers to make extra hard missions.
>>738174259lmao you suck at the game then, if you dont play the game like a strike team you are the dead weight. pointless fighting is just that
>>738175562>they removed the free SC exploitThose credits were promised to me 3000 years ago.How do others cope?Do you do the soul grinding "normal" farm?
>>738169720>you literally spend the entire time just running awayJust run in circles while killing shit, it's simple even on D10.
>>738169720Spawn rates for the crack bugs are doubled. Take the jump pack it's a good get out jail free card. Consider using one of the free mechs as well since they gave mechs in general a buff to boost war bond sales.
The only thing they need to do is to make alerts not a one off thing (ie. a bug/bot/drone sees you and gives a signal and you have incoming enemies who can then call in reinforcements of their own) but rather the alerting unit broadcasts the alert continuously and seeks cover. Killing the broadcasting unit stops the flow of enemy reinforcements. These scout units should be made their own distinct enemy type that can only spawn in random patrols and bases, not in reinforcement waves (though maybe in those too on D10).This would give the players a concrete way to stop the flow of reinforcements and avoid the issue of getting caught in a neverending alert loop where the arriving reinforcements call for more before they can be dealt with.
>>738175974Alert loops are an entirely self-inflicted skill issue where pubblies REFUSE to just fall back and take a breather, they simply must run back into the hord of bugs to get their machine gun back.
remember when dishonored was shat on from having fun abilities to kill people but using them fucks you over by giving you the bad ending so you're forced to play pacifist to get the good ending?this is the same shit but worse. They give you guns and strategems but nerf them hard that you're better off speedrunning levels and avoiding most of the combat
>>738176054>Just run away, broWasn't this the issue that everyone wanted to get rid of?
>>738176054People actually want to shoot at the bugs in the bug shooting game instead of running away all the time. Crazy.
>>738176143skill issue
>>738176086>high chaos ending>bad endingAccording to who
>>738175974It's really odd that they chose to give most basic units the capability to call for reinforcements. For bugs especially it is almost impossible to clear out the chaff before one of them screeches for more. And on higher difficulties, where reinforcement waves consist of tens of these units alongside several heavies and possibly superheavies, it becomes unreasonable to expect the players to be able to manage the alerts.
>>738176256According to bitches crying about your actions actually having consequences
>>738175974>Make the game EVEN easierAwesome suggestion, bro!
>>738175871>Do you do the soul grinding "normal" farm?Use the cheat from the /vg/ threads.
>>738176086>They give you guns and strategems but nerf them hardWhy are you still living in 2024?
>>738176256>According to whoThe game, who exactly are you trying to trick?
>>738176385Im still suprised that sony do absolutely nothing about cheaters.
>>738169929Fpbp, the hardest diff should not be beatable by everyone because that'd make boring for the best players.>>738169720Skill/build issue. You have 10 diff lvls to pick from, faggot.
The same Dev who did balancing for Hello Neighbor 2 is the same dev calling himself "the bringer of balance" for Helldivers 2, so don't get your hopes up
>>738169720I wish the balance team liked fun
>>738173169there is no good strategy against 4 bile titans dropped on your head. the game is not well balanced period.I have more hours than you in this game and I can guarantee you that you and I are not on the same level
>>738176451>balancing for Hello Neighbor 2what
>>738175871Last weekjoined lobby with some chinks and had 4k sc afterwards, so there is some exploit still
>>738176468>balance teamLMAO
>>738176507running away and waiting for strategems is a strategy :^)shouldnt have triggered them in the first place, nerd
>>738174068HD2 isnt even necessarily hard, these faggots have 10 fucking difficulty levels to choose from.
>>738176468>Fun is when the hardest difficulty can be done while half asleep and watching tiktok at the same time. Why aren't you playing the game now, then? They casualized the game ages ago.
>>738176371When the focus isn't on sheer amount of enemies, the reinforcements that do get triggered can be much more dangerous. For instance, if you do trigger an alert with this new hypothetical system, instead of flying in some devastators and maybe a tank, the bots bring in two factory walkers and three tanks. And now the broadcasting unit is huddling in a base behind those walkers and tanks, and will trigger a new wave in a minute. Good luck.
>>738176578I'm not playing the game because they release warbonds too quickly and I refuse to buy weapons and strategems in a game I paid for. the game either wants all my free time, or more money and now it gets neither.
>>738169720>difficulty >yet the image is redit divers 2lol LAMO even. you can snooze d10 with a RR/scorcher you fucking console shitter
>>738175734Nah, 2 people keeping the patrols/breaches busy while 2 are doing objectives is the best way to do it
>>738173864And those same people will cry even harder if they nerf the cheesy method theyre bitching about and force them to actually get good.
>>738176543exactly, so that means his only experience is removing strategies the devs didn't intend for you
>>738176434Damn that's crazy.
>>738169720>you literally spend the entire time just running awayholy skill issue
>>738176786if you spend 30 seconds fighting trash instead of finishing objectives, you're a parasite.
>>738176847Usually the trash comes to me AT the objectives. Picking a fight in an open field is a fool's errand, but if you target the ones that can call in reinforcements first you won't have to deal with idiots slowing you down.
Do you people play videogames only to watch number go up or to get some kind of reward out of it? Why do you play a horde shooter if you then get pissy that someone shoots at the hordes instead of optimally doing the objectives and then fucking off?No wonder this board is so fucking miserable, you do not actually enjoy videogames.
>>738175557You were always able to roast them dumbass.
>>738174432>stratagems bounce is total bullshitIs it random? It feels like it. I know there's that thing if you throw it high up it'll bounce until it falls and if it doesn't fall it just wont activate because ???? I don't know high ground is unethical I guess???But also it can just bounce for no discernable reason.
>>738175253Holy shit I made that image
>>738176942Rule of thumb is that if it is a place that enemies cannot reach, then you cannot call anything there.
Does the SC arrow mod still work?
>>738176847>I HATE FUNYou're a tryhard in games because thats your only source of success. Normal people min max at their jobs, not in their entertainment.>t. D10 diver with 92% succes rate
>>738176937>Why do you play a horde shooter if you then get pissy that someone shoots at the hordes instead of optimally doing the objectives and then fucking off?Because he is unemployed so he treates gaming as his job.
>>738169720The only people left playing this game are discord trannies. Everyone sane fucked off a long time ago.
>>738176847>Land>Spend the next 15-20 minutes having fun near the landing site by killing hundreds of enemies>Spend the next five to ten minutes taking objectives
>>738174432>>738176942Stratagem placement and drop pod movement are tied together, it's why the drop pods can barely move anymore.
>>738169720
THIS IS HELLDIVERS 2WE CLOWN IN THIS BITCHTAKE YOUR ASS TO DEEP ROCK GALACTIC
>>738177163Cope
>>738177351The game isn't like that anymore, sadly. Redditors, gamer dads, and /hdg/ troons cried(and are still crying) relentlessly until any bit of difficulty was removed.
Ultimately, the game just doesn't have any structure in higher difficulty content.I guess if I had to discribe HD2, It's like playing Call of Duty: World At War on Veteran difficulty, you're just sitting behind cover waiting for enemy A.I to throw grenades at you just so you chuck them back and at this point you're not even playing Call of Duty anymore, you're just playing grenade simulator; and that's the problem with Helldivers 2. This running away from everyone and everything has been an issue for years now, and it kind of exemplifies Arrowhead's spite, they didn't intend for the success rate of higher difficulties to be even remotely above single digit percentages, and even the meta changes are constantly making Arrowhead game designers seethe, because they cannot stand the fact that tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands (doubt) are "abusing" strong equipment to circumvent the difficulty; to them it's like sacrilegious. At this point it feels like Arrowhead are spiting the community the only way they know how to, and that's by not really letting you play it normally in higher difficulty content.
>>738176941https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/4339865428695343823>Adjusted flame effects to work more realistically.This removed the armor penetration from flamethrower.https://youtu.be/-FHMTsDtEewhttps://www.vg247.com/helldivers-2-arrowhead-addresses-escalation-of-freedom-update-backlash-60-day-planThe origin of the original shimata gomen gomen 60 day plan.Dumbass yourself, dumbass.
>>738177436Never post again.
>>738177404The reddit mods and troons are the ones defending arrowhead. They will even dox you for criticizing the game because their self worth and ego is tied to the helldivers 2. You recognise these retards when they start bragging about how piss easy D10 is. This makes them feel better about themselves. Don't take it away from them, it's the only thing they have.
>"D10 is easy">Proceeds to split off from the group to complete objectives, effectively exploiting the game's systemsNot saying that the systems should be broken like this, but it is on you if you do take advantage of the current situation and then bitch and moan how easy things are.
>>738177648>redditor that can't clear D10 Oshaune makes a post to harrass the devs about "game balance">tries to hide behind "IT'S FOR CHARITY BRO">gets doxxed by nerfgods instead>bends the knee instantly but still gets fired from both of his jobs lmao>gets BTFOed so hard that it kills any future "challenges" effectively achieving the opposite goal of his spergoutBiggest KWAB moment I've seen in any game ever.
>>738177784>nerfgodsYou spelled trannies wrong
>>738177648>The reddit mods and troons are the ones defending arrowheadStopped reading there. >>738177783I wish solo trannies would get punished for splitting off from the group, but if AH tried to do that then redditors and various other, angry troons would start review bombing the game again.
>>738177503Lol, was I wrong? I swear you guys constantly bitch and moan whenever people point out the flaws with this game, its kind of pathetic. This is like shit I would expect from souls players in 2010
>>738177784the devs wouldn't have even been able to do it anyways, the devs balance around popular opinion because they LITERALLY cannot play their own game
>>738177982The devs literally play D10 on stream every couple of months. Cope harder, Unfiltered rapefugee.
>>738178029Link a vod.
>>738177784TRVKE! It's hilarious that the redditor posed this as some serious challenge with the implication that it was somehow hard when in reality it isn't.
>>738177784He was punished for stating a simple truth. Devs don't play their own game. We've known for a long time that arrowhead never does playtests. Updates are full of obvious bugs and nerfs are done based on vibes and spreadsheets.
>>738178064https://www.youtube.com/live/SUaigvJcXWk?si=AkdeI--9WlfRiSZg&t=1946https://www.youtube.com/live/dbOI7N5BgQE?si=5-7pQNyMA7CcwuH1&t=3349https://www.youtube.com/live/pR-C5sT7T_o?si=LWi3JPYbsxqnkuCe&t=518
>>738178143>Devs don't play their own gameNot true in the slightest.
I've been playing about a year solo at just around 3-4 the whole time (higher with friends). I'm content, but one day I will be read for more.
>>738178029Great, now the schizos have arrived. Devs never play D10, even in your constructed reality.
>>738178226>readready
>>738178184Trvkes of this magnitude are a warcrime, but I'm all for it. Trannies in smithereens.
>>738178184>>738178228
>>738178228See : >>738178184Looks like you got BTFOed again, buffnigger. Just like you get BTFOed in game lmao.
>>738177784That faggot bufftroon got what he fucking deserved. Based nerf chads for putting his retarded ass in its place.
>>738178184>community managers and people who aren't actually a part of the dev teamlol
>>738178370Keep moving those goal posts.
>>738176385It's somewhere in vg OP?
>>738178267>>738178276>>738178306>Some dev gets carried by 3 discord trannies and they extract only with 1 reinforcement left.Is this supposed to prove something?
>>738178465>I-It doesn't count because X and Y!Delicious buffnigger tears
>>738178465>>738178465
>>738178465lol
Don't care about any of thatSomeone give me the updated supercredit afk cheat, the old one stopped working and the new ones are gatekept by discord tranny faggots.
>>738177784There's no proof that even happened. It's completely made up.
>>738178502D10 is too easy for me, how do I like my fan art btw?
>>738178675Simmer down, reddit rapefugee.
>>738178184First stream is one level designer and three cms/support; not devs. They play mostly on D5 then play a single super helldive mission with an easy objective against early implementation ayys.Doesn't count; one dev.Second stream is AD felix frtizell with Designer Niklas Malmborg. Ok, half devs, with some cms carrying them.They play on D6, D7, then D10. They run out of time to complete the D10 mission on stream.Doesn't count; didn't complete super helldive.Third stream is cms and production director Alex Bolle; not devs.The start on D10 against bots and immediately run out of reinforces and fail. I stopped watching here.Doesn't count; not devs, didn't complete super helldive.Thanks for occupying my morning.
>>738178796See : >>738178502
>the devs pla—ACK
>>738178863tf they're shooting at
>>738178796word games, should have used "people who make balance changes to the game don't play the game"
>>738178863>These guys are bad at the game, so that means we need to make it extremely easy.I still don't follow this logic after all this time. Can you please explain?
>>738178863why did they hide the difficulty showing during the mission anyways?
>>738178948That is the point of this discussion, to gather evidence to establish whether or not the devs can clear super helldive.Cms aren't devs, that is unquestionable.I saw one super helldive mission be cleared by cms.What have we established?
>>738179114We've established that you need to lower the difficulty
>>738179156I haven't actually played since 2024.I would have to go and install the game, selecting the beta branch that reduces the installation size by like 80 fucking percent, that AH had to be helped by sony to make because they were duplicating assets in the install three or four times and had no clue how to avoid that, in order to play and lower the difficulty.
>>738179236>Bufftroon admits he doesn't play the gameYou can't make this shit up.
Seriously though, there is a lot of running away. Definitely structural problems with drops/bug holes. Really needs quiet times during gameplay to gather up and call things in to replenish yourselves.But the way all the redditors are going about it by being very accusatory of the devs is totally psychotic. I've never seen a bigger manchild rage-out than these redditors
>>738179236>installing the game is too difficult for me
Pilestedt took all the chad devs to work on his new game. Alexus and the community managers are in control now.
>>738179265Neither do arrowhead though.
>all these people outing themselves as worse than furries>thinking it's some epic own they can't do D10D10 is easy, by the way. I enjoy doing it with nothing but expendable weapons.
>>738179272
>>738179298Already been disproven. Next cope, sister.
>>738179281Kek
>>738179440No it hasn't.
>>738179236>I haven't actually played since 2024So you're in here seething about this game 2 years after you've stopped playing?See what I mean, these guys are psychos?
give me the new cheatsNOW
>>738179520Yeah I discuss video games on the video game board.That's what we do here.Helldivers 2 is the best video game that doesn't want any players and I'll discuss that all day.
>>738179578The problem with helldivers 2 is that too many of its "fans" want comfydivers and not helldivers.
>>738175675you aren't supposed to pick fights anon, you're a team of max 4 dudes dropped thousands of miles behind enemy lines
I met a girl in hd2 but she’s been offline for a year or so
>>738178863All that work for something a well aimed Quasar cannon shot couldve done in one. Quasar mogs again!
>>738179236>I don't play video games but I will give my opinion on themGo back to twitter
>>738180946But you're on an anime website and you don't watch anime.
>>738178448Looks like the jannies have started removing the pasta from the archives.
>>738181170Turns out that Cheat Engine works for Super Credits as well.
>>738169929Why does HD2 in particular have such a huge amount of people who refuse to just lower their difficulty and instead demand the devs make the insane meme difficulties easier?
>>738169929There should be less difficulties with more of a jump between them, there's too much bloat in the selection
>>738169720skill issue>>738169929fippy
>>738181463The game attracted a lot of gamer dads and redditors by accident. I'm talking about the type of people who got literal PTSD from playing Halo 2 legendary. They're just emotional manchildren, simple as.
>>738173723they hate those the most lmfao
>>738174068its a joke when they put an armor to run faster and its dogshit +10% speed im glad im not gonna give them not even 1 $ post buying the game as a cheap key and can be farmed/hacked, im gonna enjoy when this game get EOS and someone upload the pirate private server tools that are already made
>>738178863Why are the people in this video using the autocannon against bugs? The autocannon is good against squids. Against bugs you need quasar or the flamethrower. It's really easy.>vs Bugs you bring toxic, fire and quasar>vs Squids you bring arc, fire and autocannon>vs Bots you bring explosive, beams and heavy pen sniper rifleDisposable antitank is good against bugs and bots.Disposable napalm is good against squids and bugs.I should really made a guide for people at this point. How are we still getting people use the wrong weapons against he wrong enemies in 2026?
What do you want to see in Helldivers 3? RTS stuff? Like being able to command your own squad?
Its boring once you get the mechs, that is the end game. Wish that wasnt the end game. I have all the stratagems.There's nothing to do in the game. once you reach lvl 40
>>738181827pirate servers
>>738179306Perfect fodder for the meat grinder
Play EDF instead
>>738181463because the game its about diving to hell and its 0 rewarding compared to first game
>>738177163Didn't they ban a bunch of people for giving puke emojis to a furfag? Did they remove that option completely?
>>738181827I want SKG to come into effect before Helldivers 3 is made so they have to give us the ability to host our own servers after they stop support of the game.
>>738181758>im gonna enjoy when this game get EOSYou're gonna be waiting a long time.
>>738181883Dead game.
>>738181934>>738181758god, you guys are worse than classic wow players when it comes to crying
>>738173361so it's P2W
>>738177404were you in cyberstan? now its 500 vox engine artillery constantly and cannon oneshots+ragdolls
>>738181764That's not just a random clip.Those are the developers of the game.
>>738177460They fixed a bug that was causing the flamethrower to bypass charger armor and hit the weakpoints underneath as if you had shot the armor off of them, causing them to do insane damage and be able to kill a charger almost instantly by shooting it in its front legsFlamethrowers had armor piercing 3 at this point and the charger had an armor value of 5A month after they fixed the bug they increased flamethrowers to armor piercing 4 and lowered chargers armor to 4 allowing them to be killed by flamethrowers again but without being able to hit their internal weakpoints through their armor anymoreThey had the same bug with melee weapons reaching through armor as well
>>738181852>mechs>engameare you seriousthey're made of shitty cardboardyou'd be better off just not taking a strategem slot
>>738181764My nigga that was before the 60day patch. The AC didn't even have the armor pen to damage the titan. If that was post-60day patch they would have killed it.
>>738182014Yes, and the deadliness of the vox engines was blow out of proportion. And it still wasn't half as crazy as a mode labeled "SUPER HELLDIVE" is supposed to be.
would a chopper be impossible to balance for AH?
>>738182045Hello Alex.
>>738182128No more so than the rest of the game.
>>738182128it would be impossible for them to implement
>>738182045wow the weakpoint of a bug that should destroy it or scare it cant be allowed to kill it
>>738182128its impossible for their retarded mindset
>>738182135
>>738182128That would require the enemies to have long range, accuracy and strong firepower. So no, it's not possible because gamer dads and shitters would throw a fit if any of those changes were implemented.
>>738182045Don't tell Alex, but flamethrowers still have that bug, it got reintroduced. They kill chargers in 2 seconds flat and completely ignore all squid shields. The shielded cockpit on the mechs, ignored to roast the pilot, the shield on the harvester, ignored to roast the leg joint, the overseer holding out a shield, goes right through to roast his arm.
If you're complaining that the game is too easy, please attach a timestamped photo of your Creek Cape so we know you were playing when the game was actually hard, thank you.
>>738182637>Don't tell Alex, but flamethrowers are viable againTerrifyingI would never tell him
>>738181234I tried and it does not work anymore
>>738169720Because the game is made and maintained by actual retards. New content is outsourced to some jeets and comes out severely undercooked despite taking months to develop and implement. So narrowhead have no idea how to fix the mess made by someone else most of the time. On top of that, the devs struggle at D6-7 and barely play the game, thus all balancing for difficulties beyond that is done by approximation and doesn't get proper playtesting. And it shows because all the glaring problems with each new enemy release (such as vox engines ignoring terrain and having no enemy collisions on their tracks or meatballs STILL clipping into the ground) is simply impossible to overlook if you fight them just once on any non-baby difficulty.
>>738169720Every "balance" patch is just smgs do 20% extra damage, enemies have 20% more health. Arrowhead has gone on record to say they have no balance team and that they choose what to adjust purely out of random selection
>>738183110>narrowhead
>>738182718This one?I still think the game is too babbified. There are also too many difficulties, which is unnecessary bloat and makes people default to the highest difficulty as if it's the only one to play on, but also hesitant to lower the difficulty because there's too much of a split between all of the bloat which is all functionally the same as opposed to Easy/medium/hard/and then HELLDIVE which should be accepted as being the meme difficulty mode for poopsocks, not the default game mode that is easily beaten by weekend warrior dads and other casuals.Rape sweden with a nuke.
>>738183110Honestly as someone on the Fatshark pain train it baffles me Narrowhead manages to be even lazier and passive aggressive than their fat fish countrymen.
>>738183110>game is balanced around normal difficultyand this is bad because?
>>738183110>Non-baby difficulty Where?
>>738183193Because the hardest difficulty needs to be a cake walk or else the game is discrimination against his kind(he's a bearded troon).
>>738183179>level 90
I don't understand how a game can have 10 difficulties to choose from, everything from 6 onwards being viable for various levels of endgame skill, and yet the player base still constantly demands that the hardest difficulty be made easier. Like bro just play on 8 or 9, you still get pink samples and heavy-tier enemies to kill.
>>738181758Posts from the third world
>>738183720Mostly this.10 dives shouldn't be 'balanced' in any real sense, because they are imagined to be inherently unfair for the player.
>>738181969Not particularly indicative of it’s quality. And edf 6 is still active
>>738170021Reviev bombing will continue until the game actually improves shill
I think they really need to make the rewards the same across all difficulty levels. It's definitely forcing people into higher difficulty brackets than they can handle.
>>738181827>What do you want to see in Helldivers 3?Arrowhead being liquidated and the game cancelled
>>738183823They might as well. It would stop redditors and other shitters from using that shitty excuse.
I just set the difficulty to 2 and did a mission solo on a random planet just as a sightseeing tour. It was pretty fun. Actually more of a challenge than I thought it would be.There's quite a lot of different planets in this game. Though I wish they'd knock off some of the fog effects on some of them.I really don't like the Illuminate nighttime city maps, which have an inexplicable fog everywhere just to make things more shitty.
>>738183823I think an issue is that grind is the biggest motivation to currently play the game and the grind is also so absurd and egregious that people want to be getting the most reward for their time spent which is to play D10. If people had another reason to play than to just try to chip away at the hundreds of hours of grinding they might play differently. That should be the galactic war but the galactic war is a sham.
>>738184686It doesn't take that much longer to just play on 6, 7, or 8 if you need super samples or requisition. You only need like 10-20 super samples for the high level ship modules. This shit is purely ego driven.
Bought the game a few months ago, didn't know it was filled with microtransactions/battlepass shit. Had a good time and was doing difficulty 6/7 missions comfortably pretty quick but anytime I asked for advice or a "I dont like how small the magazine sizes are" I get beset upon by fuming spergs. It's great to actually see a thread with normal discussion even though the usual "hello X" spergs are already here
>>738184686Yeah that sounds about right. Definitely not enough mention is made of the scummy paid currency and the interminable grind to get super credits. It is deliberately and cynically designed to be a frustrating grind
>>738184841Is that true? Do difficulty levels higher than 6 give no extra rewards or a higher reward rate?If so, then the people complaining about the higher difficulty have absolutely no reason to be upset.
>>738184929They do but you still don't have to play on D10 to get reasonable amounts of them. There are in fact difficulties between D6 and D10 despite redditor troons' claims otherwise.
>>738184853>normal discussionYou mean vitriolic bitching that treats manageable problems like the end of the world?
>>738185230Yup, most civil discussion of this game I have seen in a long time.
>>738169929fpbpUncs think they still got it, so they refuse to lower the difficulty and complain when they get shit on.
>>738184234everything about the illuminate is shitty. How they did the cyborgs and terminids soo amazingly well and fucked up soo badly on the illuminate ill never know.
>>738170021>Make turrets even shittier on bugs>Waste ammo on a common enemy>FRV is even more of a death traplol stfu D6 nigger. You do not play the game.
>>738185449frfr skibidi fanum tax
This game is boring theres nothing to do. At least MMO's respect your time with cool rare items, pets and good gear and boss fights.What do you do in this game besides fight the same repetitive boring shit over and over. 20 hour game max, and I mean that. Haven't touched it since.
>>738178215>an entire year where firing the Spear would crash everyone in the lobby to desktop>planting the flag would crash the game for half of the time it has been out>patch so broken it turned half the guns purpleGet back to work Sven.
>>738185472Lower the difficulty
>>738185457They're fucking weird?? It's like zombies + the Covenant. Not very memorable audio design. No cool plasma sword enemy, either.Why are their cities all dark and shitty? They could have been a bit better illuminated. I especially love trying to figure out which direction I can steer my hellpod when I drop in because whichever direction I usually try to steer it is blocked by a big fucking skyscraper. And you usually get dropped in right in the middle of some fuckfest.The clipping issues didn't help much either, though they're fixed now.Lots of dead end alleyways to delay you in getting somewhere, too.
>>738185728They should have just made them more covenant-y honestly, I think that would have been interesting enough so that I wasn't actively repelled from playing squids.
>>738185887Yeah, or like, Protoss
>>738185728i think the thing i hate the most about them, is the silence. None of their units make any noise, it used to be very annoying that the dreadnought moved silently whenever it wasn't shooting, but the ayys all being silent, not even footsteps or vibrations when the fat ayy is charging, its really fucking lazy and hurts the gameplay.
>>738176507500kg, rocketpods, orb. gatling, mech, flamethrowers, ultimatum, pissle, thermite, epoch, multiple quazars.it's important you don't just rely on a kill button but combine them eg. stray ultimatum+rocketpods kills one easily.furthermore if you kite them they will damage each other and the horde.
>>738184841>super samples or requisition>>738184863>super creditsNeither of these are the absurd egregious grind, I had all my samples and REQ taken care of after 300 hours. What I'm talking about is Medals and XP. And not XP for leveling up mind you, XP for weapon attachments. I am at 1300 hours now and I am close, but still not done leveling up all of the weapons that can be leveled up and because of the medal cap I still have hundreds of medals I once again need to get all the cosmetic fluff in latest warbond. I don't even have to worry about grinding or buying SC anymore because I cheated in 60K a few weeks ago when I finally got fed up with them.Medals and XP are gained the fastest by playing D10. If I am going to suffer all of the bullshit playing this game, I usually don't want to play more than one full operation at a time so I want to do it on D10 because otherwise it feels like I'm wasting my time.
>>738169929Fucking /thread there’s 10 difficulties. Fucking shitters holy shit shut the fuck up.>>738169720KYS
>>738187519Bro you can grind out like 100 medals in an hour or two just doing the D1 super credit farming on Omicron
>>738185969Illuminate in HD1 was very Protoss and that seems to be the direction they want to take them right now.
>>738187767I'm done running laps on D1 missions man, fuck that. A D10 operation and personal order is at least somewhat more engaging even if it's usually frustrating.
>>738187851Thats understandable but I get so sick of people bitching that medals take too long to farm when they don't. If you SC farm for like a half hour 3 times a week you have enough medals and SC for basically anything you want at any given time
So what I gather from this thread is that if i lower the difficulty>bile titan corpses will stop flying at players like heat seeking missiles>enemies will stop clipping through walls/floor/each other to hit you>invisible corpses will stop body blocking you>stratagems will stop bouncing failing to go off for no reasonguess I'm playing on D4 from now on
>>738187924>If you SC farm for like a half hour 3 times a week you have enough medals and SC for basically anything you want at any given timeNow imagine if people could get the same thing by just playing the game normally 3 times a week. I doubt people would be complaining much.
>>738188117And if you then make these same points they ask you what difficulty and then automatically dismiss you if you say it's below D10. Absolute cancer community.
>>738188126Then they wouldn't make any money on microtransactions from impatient retards though
>lower difficulty saardo the browns defending it really not understand the issues with the game or am I being ragebaited?
>SC farming I do roughly an Op a day and I have 3.2k SC, I don’t fucking farm. Just play the game and have fun but just make sure to hit all your POIs.
>>738188278No, tranny. Youtube ragebaiter shitters telling you the game is bad aren’t good at the game or telling the truth.The “problems” with this game are >getting stuck in the map>invisible enemy corpses>loadout gun menu taking too long to load the picture of the capes and weapons That’s it. Stupid shit like that. If you’re complaining about game balance or enemies being too strong or some shit like that just shut your gay, loser mouth. You fucking suck. Lower the difficulty and stop trying to rob people who like the game and want a challenge of fun. You can have your gay friendslop trooncord casual fun in D5. Let D10 be assrapingly hard as it should be. Fucking be quiet you sissy shitters holy fuck. You don’t hear me saying REMOVE EASY DIFFICULTY, FUCK GAMER DADS AND CASUALS! I think we should all have our cake and eat it too what’s the fucking problem. Lower the difficulty.
>>738169720This self report culture these days is so embarrassing.
>>738188493What version of the game was fine balance wise to you because the balance has changed so often now.
>>738169720Played it, had fun, got bored of the constant ragdoll and invisible walls created by big corpse. Warbonds are a bit jewy and "farming" super credits, altho easy, is boring as fuck.
>>738188117>>738188174None of these have anything to do with the difficulty, which is the major theme of discussion, and even the people who like the difficulty as it stands still complain about actual bugs.Posts like >>738188493 are about people like you.
>>738169720>play D10>teammates drop me in the middle of a patrol>or at the 'run' stage of a hit and run>die immediatelyIts unreal how easy or difficult a mission can be entirely on the competency of the team.
I love how the subhumans always say skill issue this skill issue that but never talk about how the game tries to slap your face as a reward for doing great>we heard you liked the orbital airburst strike too much so we changed its angle and added even more spread so you kill yourself and your teammates more often, enjoy :^)>oh man thats a well placed 500kg that will sure kill the bile titan, oh wait it survived with 100 hp, better luck next time :^)>you killed a bile titan? good now your reward is the bile titan corpse flying at match 3 speed on your face instakilling you.>oh silly this never happened you died but the titan never moved, see? The corpse teleported right back where it died.>oh nice work diver you destroyed all nests on the map? good job your reward is triple the patrols :^)>you killed the titan inside the heavy titan nest? great the reward is two dead titan hitboxes, one on the titan body you see and another somewhere else so you cant hit those bug holes, enjoy :^)>hey dude did you know we added a NEW subfaction and NEW planets? they also have insanely fast bugs but dont worry, with our PAID dlc you will be able to complete these missions with no problem, oh you say this is p2w? you only have to farm for 2 hours its free :^)>did you know hive guards are heavy armored? no its not because of grunt fantasy its because of the point system we never mentioned we just pulled out of our asses to spit on you a little, have fun :^)>you did great you killed the entire patrol! sadly we just spawned one little scavenger behind you so it can call a whole bug breach just for you :^)And im not even mentioning the other factions bullshit, i also think arrowhead added different secret types of patrols consisting of a few bugs that spawn really close to the players back just to do cheap damage, like the 2 or 3 shriekers that allways at some point appear from behind or the two warriors that allways appear out of nowhere to scratch your back.
>>738175871The cheat menu has an option to unlock all equipment, in fact it has 2, so you dont have to pay a single coin for the new content.
>>738189696>hey dude did you know we added a NEW subfaction and NEW planets? they also have insanely fast bugs but dont worry, with our PAID dlc you will be able to complete these missions with no problem, oh you say this is p2w? you only have to farm for 2 hours its free :^)This is the real problem. They'll only fix bugs when it's time to sell a warbond, but that warbond was created by jeets so it just introduces more issues.
>>738188117These are valid complaintsGuns being too weak and enemies being too strong are not
>>738190284Gun and enemy balance changes all the time, why is it always perfect in every iteration?
>>738190027what cheat menu?
>>738169720Imagine complaining about difficulty in a game with 10 difficulty levels.Hint: it's not the game that has an issue.
>>738190386People rarely complain about balance, they complain about difficulty.
>>738189696funniest thing to me is durable damagenobody even talks about it anymore its just there in the patch notesimagine being a "normal" player or someone who just bought the game you read the notes and see durable damage mentioned 53 times, boot up the game and there isnt even a hint of what it could beyou have to go to third party websited where they datamined the numbers to actually see what it is and how it affects youand its not just durable damage, why are they constantly hiding stats from us while lying to our faces?
>>738169720the optimal way to play this game is just run away from everything while spamming stratagems, which is just boring i wanna shoot some niggas, not have some npc jet do it for me
>>738189696Truke
>>738190730I think the difficulty scaling is fine the way it is but fixing all the glitches that happen a lot on higher difficulties would be nice.
>>738190730i dont think alexus would survive alone in a room filled with helldivers, he would get eaten alive, thats how good the balancing is.
>>738189696>how the game tries to slap your face as a reward for doing greatHas it been confirmed if turrets actually intentionally try to kill you if you survive too long?
>>738191861Turrets dont have to wait for that, if you pay attention you will see that sentries always look at you before they stop shoting, they also always rotate on whatever angle will get you killed, they ALSO always prioritise the bugs right next to you so they can kill you in the procces.This and more reasons justify killing sentry players on sight if they call their teamkiller 9000 right in the middle of the objective.
>>738191001No, you don't HAVE TO do any of that to play the game, schizo. It's not a competitive game.>>738192070Take your fucking meds.
>>738169720fuck you mean weak ass faggot?im building up a fireteam of sentries while blasting the bug breach or dropsite with orbitalsIm not going anywhere
the only reason shitters play on d10 is because they want the higher xp (account and weapons)like some faggot said above, if they normalized the rewards to all difficulties, none of this meltdown would've happened
>>738192245>Schizoposter projecting
>>738169929Imagine if every normal person actually said this to redditors back in the beginning, we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now.
I haven't played for so long my coop buddy quit around the squigger invasion of super heart because 1 out of 4 matches had some retarded bug that soft locked the mission.
i don't care what you nigger say the fact that devs hide certain changes from the patch notes (that gets discovered after 2 hours anyway) and that for every buff they do a round about nerf (also hidden from the patch notes) is enough for me not wanting to touch the game with a ten feet pole, the devs clearly resent the players
>>738185449Cooled, dk they make it in only up obby fr ong
>>738192332I play every game on the hardest difficulty if there's an option for, besides hardcore.
>>738192881>i don't care what you nigger say the fact that devs hide certain changes from the patch notes (that gets discovered after 2 hours anyway)>he thinks AH is the only one doing thatLMAO you naive tranny.
>>738192881They do that shit every time but if you point it out you are just a whiner crying about difficulty because the game is perfectly balanced until the next patch where they change a ton of stuff. Then it is perfectly balanced again. Fanboys should be shot on sight
>>738192881>muh hidden changesThe majority of buffs are for the player and the majority of nerfs are for the enemies. That's all you need to know.
>>738169720This game is so fucking grindyYou have to spend houndred of hours just to collect dumbass "points" to "upgrade" to some other shitty weapon that deals zero damage "because".
>>738193565>to some other shitty weapon that deals zero damage "because".This nigger is stuck in 2024.
>>738193646He never played the game at all.
>>738193564ok but why hide the changes?
>asshead still doesn't know how to make customizable mechs>flame weapons don't deal damage when enemy is too close>tank patterns nowhere to be releasedthe balance is the least of the problems, those devs fucking suck
>>738193975he won't be able to answer that anon, he is a cocksuckerdiver.
>>738193975Because they're usually so small that they don't make any difference in the end. If a change is nerf to the player, then so what? What are you gonna do? Stop playing the game? Just roll with the punches and keep playing. These days however, most changes make the player stronger.
>>738194412>If a change is nerf to the player, then so what? What are you gonna do? Stop playing the game?If it's not fun, yeah. That's usually how this shit goes, you fucking secondary. Who is even paying you to write this? It's clear you don't play games.
>>738194412yeah man making troopers, destroyers, tanks, spewers, overseers etc etc do double durable damage is making the players stronger sure sure, are you saying your nonsense because of the mechs buffs? cool man just ignore that they buffed them when they had to sell a warbound you disingenuous fucking nigger.
>>738194593>you fucking secondary>calls me a secondary but abandons the game at the slightest inconvenience that challenges him. Pathetic. >>738194621>still struggling with the enemies in this game despite them being nerfed into the fucking groundHow?! You definitely were not playing this game during February of 2024.
>>738194843>Can't adress his point at allRetarded fanboy
>>738194916>implying you ever made a worthwhile pointYou just suck. Stop playing on D10 if it's too much trouble for you. The game has already been casulized at this point. You shouldn't be struggling.
A super helldive should be something a group of normal players can only pull off sometimes and not all the time.
>>738195069It's like you dont even read posts, you just see some words and instantly go into defense mode and start sperging out. What an absolute bot tier response, can't adress anything directly and you confuse me with another anon even thought I specifically said "his". You have to make it all "it's just one shitter anon" in your head.
>>738195069we all know you are not buying the next arrowhead game silly shill :)
>>738188493>>738189489Glazetroon melty
>>738189696as always, the shills ignore anons pointing out all the bullshit in this game.
>>738195503I think we should take this idea further, the game should only open sometimes and not all the time, the other times it would self-delete. This would be the pinnacle of realism as some soldiers die in bootcamp or off duty, and as we all know, the more realistic the game is the betterer it is
>>738195886>bettereri want to murder the nigger that started this jeet speak on this goddamn board, now everyone uses it ironically making the actual jeets blend in.
>>738195693Lets cut to the chase. You just want the game to be easy. Just admit it. Don't be shy. You just want the game to be nice and easy.
>>738189696>you did great you killed the entire patrol! sadly we just spawned one little scavenger behind you so it can call a whole bug breach just for you :^)>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT ANOTHER BUG BREACH!! HOW WILL I EVER COPE??!!!kek, pathetic.
>>738196834try hosting once anon they wont hurt you :)
>>738182082AC is ass against bugs. Don't lie to people. It was always ass. It takes wy too many hits to kill a bile.
>>738189696>oh man thats a well placed 500kg that will sure kill the bile titan, oh wait it survived with 100 hp, better luck next time :^)100 hp? Finish it off with your primary, you stupid faggot.
>>738196906nice job anon! upsie, the titan corpse killed you kek :) so funny!! can you make a youtube short of that for us?with love, arrowhead.
>>738196954>he's using his AC for bile titans KEK, shitter.
>>738197057>the titan corpse killed you kek >he's seething so much about something that rarely happens. Why?
>>738169929Anyone who disagrees with this is simply massive faggot.
>>738197120lol! wasn't it funny anon? now be aware they might do it again! :)
>>738197283>seething this hard over something so minorScraping the bottom of the barrel, huh?
>>738182637They don't kill chargers that quickly so the bug must still be fixed then.
>>738197321:) buy or next game :)pd: now hunters have medium armor legs :)))), as a joke.
The amount of gay complaining about this game is ridiculous.Level 10 is supposed to be a mess that feels like your drowning.Turn the difficulty down in real life by not being such a fucking childish loser.>>>>>>>>>complaining about difficulty in a horde shooter on the hardest difficulty
>>738197498>now hunters have medium armor legs>NOOOOOOOOO! HOW WILL I EVER COPE?!!! FUCK YOU ARROWHEAD!! I'M GONNA REVIEW BOMB THE GAME!!(again). kek, pathetic.
>>738169720So glad that Starcraft is going to put Helldivers 2 out of it's miseryhttps://www.gosugamers.net/entertainment/news/77824-blizzard-is-reportedly-set-to-reveal-a-starcraft-first-person-shooter-at-blizzcon-2026https://www.ign.com/articles/blizzards-latest-attempt-at-a-starcraft-shooter-reportedly-in-development-at-nexonhttps://www.vice.com/en/article/blizzard-is-developing-a-new-open-world-shooter-fans-think-its-starcraft/Now if only we could get a Gears or Halo game like this as well
>>738197616>ricochet your tiny bullet backdont forget the youtube short with the warhammer music :))))
>>738197716>trusting modern blizzardKek. You will kneel to the Swedes.
>>738197729>Using multiple emoticons to hide his butthurt while spewing nonsense. LMAO. You're mad.
Helldivers 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HD2hd1 d10 missions are actually hard, not we inflate everything whilst bugging our players on tope of jewing the living the fuck out of them.also hd1 mechs can call strategems while inside
>>738197841HD1 is allowed to be hard because normie niggers didn't infest the game.
>>738197836don't forget the lick the toes too anon. ;)
>>738198082>Still using emoticons You're seething.
>Ignore valid criticism>Bring up difficulty again even though that wasnt the topic>Fight strawmenDelusional
>>738197927the newfags are flat out retarded. This is co op game. Stick to the godamn team instead of ramboing. A lot of us don't pack distractor beacons for a reason
>>738198179>implying that 95% of the ass hurt over this game isn't over the balancing. New or retarded?
>>738198137:)
>>738198247Actual mental illness
>>738198309>still denying the obvious
>>738197069That was my point you imbecile.
>>738197772That's the great thing, Microsoft is forcing Blizzard to give up their IP to much better companies to make the games.
Just gonna wait for them to revert the changes. Bugs used to be my go-to when I got bored of clankers. Now bugs feel like a chore to fight.
>>738198429That you are a subhuman fanboy who has to defend his favorite company? Can't take any critique? Yea i'm whatever boogeyman you have conjured up in your head, anything goes as long as you don't have to look into the mirror.
>>738197841>hd1 d10 missions are actually hard, not we inflate everythingCyborgs are the definition of inflating the amount of heavy armor enemies from>maybe a coupleto>a single alarm will 5 tanks and an entire legion of warlordsto the point anything that isn't anti-tank is useless against themLike half the wars I remember from last few years are cyborgs last into slow loss because no one wants to fight them
>>738198707No, the obvious fact that nearly all the seethe from this game is generated by people who shouldn't be playing it or are playing on a level too high for them. I have no idea whatever garbage your post was talking about .
>>738198929Because your mental illness doesnt allow for you to read, it's clear as day in the thread and anyone can see you are purposefully avoiding them to start attacking a strawman you created.
>>738198185>This is co op gameIs that why every objective can be done solo far faster than in a team? Is that why the maps are so big it takes unreasonable amount of time to do all objectives unless you split up?
>>738199051>I-Its a strawman!A strawman that repeatedly seethes over the game's balance and review bombs the game? I don't think that's a strawman. I think that might be many real people. Pay attention.
>>738176440they cant afford to lose players
>>738199069They made the game so easy that splitting up is a viable tactic instead of suicidal.
>>738199468>make the maps too big>instead of making them smaller just make playing solo easier>this removes any incentive to actually co-op in the co-op gameSasuga swedes
>>738199589>instead of making them smaller just make playing solo easierNo? the obvious solution would be to make it a death sentence for players who break away from their team. Are you stupid?
>>738199671Then we're back at square one where the maps are too big to do all the objectives in a reasonable amount of time retard
>>738199468is not like splitting up on release day was a suicide either, only the host spawned the quartizillion billion heavies, rundiving was a thing even back then because of this specific issue arrowhead never fixed.
>>738198892cyborgs were always the shittiest enemies in the game but the ifvs and fat units weren't the worst part of the group, The fucking hounds were.Also a group who knows how distraction beacons made a difference between chaos to reasonably easy. Unfortunately most retards would rather bring bastions and havs in d10+
>>738199787just delete the time limit or make it a full hour, thats it fixed.
>>738199787KEK! You're literally telling on yourself with this statement. Competent teams have never struggled with the issue you're suggesting.>b-but the time limit is working against me!! That is so unfair!!Boo hoo you stupid nigger. Lower the difficulty.
>>738199916calm down zoe.
>>738199889No one wants to play a single map for an hour, that's how long it should take for an entire set of maps to be completed and move onto the next set>>738199916Yes, because they split up. Thank you for proving you can't read glazetranny kwab
Imagine being a fag whose ego as a cool hardcore gamer is based on finishing a d10 mission in this piss easy game lmao.Like AI that walks in a straight line towards players is a challenge for you?Has to old ass uncs who get the shit beaten out of them in pvp games and this is their last desperate refuge to feel like a cool gamer.
>>738200023>instead of making them smaller just make playing solo easierWhich brings us back to our original point that the game is a snoozefest and so easy that you can just split up to beat the mission. You're legit the first loser I've seen complain about the time limit. Lower the difficulty.
>>738169929You and your gaggle of gurgling retards don't get that the current meta is to release broken stuff while nerfing anything else that could be fun. You are used as dancing monkeys thinking that they are making the game "hard" for you when its just a business model of sucking every drop of fun from the game. We have been through this shit since the start and the retarded bdsm enjoyer thinks that people should shut up and accept the game becoming a bdsm dungeon. Fuck you and fuck your retarded opinion. God you deranged assholes infest every game nowadays, you need a medal for finishing a game thats extremely tedious and you need to anounce it everywhere
>>738200132>based on finishing a d10 mission in this piss easy game lmao.Why are the uncs seething about being unable to do this though? Why is their(and yours) ego so wounded from struggling on this game?
>>738200023i dont think it would be that bad if the diff was high and fun and the rewards were decent, 50 medals and 50k requisition isnt bad, plus the 100 sc on the map maybe add some secondary quest that gives extra sc like getting 100 sc for killing a hive lord or something.
>>738200247It's not the uncs that are seething zoom zoom, its your fellow underage shitters that can't finish a D10.
>>738200149>be retarded and can't read>see time mentioned>assume the time limit is the problem, have a glazetroon meltyMANY such cases of glazetrannies being unable to read
>>738200354>he doesn't know about the gamer dads that plague this game.Why are you commenting on things your too ignorant for?
GET DOWN, HE PULLED OUT ANOTHER STRAWMAN
>>738200404Lets just skip all the arguments and get down to it. You want the game to be easy. Just say it. Just be honest. You want the game to be easy, accessible and chill for shitters such as yourself. Just be honest.
>>738200454you mean the devs? they can't even complete a diff 6 mission without dying 5 times.
>>738200529calm down zoe.
>>738200534>the devs are bad the game>so that means we need to make the game super easy on D10?? Jesus, you're fucking stupid. Most developers are not pros at their own games.
>anon is surprised that he is forced to play in a specific manner on harder difficulties
>skill issuepeople complaining about many weapons being bad isn't a skill issue, it's a lack of variety issue. Anyone who has the knowledge can just grab the meta loadout of :>Explosive property weapon>Ultimatum>Thermite>recoilless or resupply backpackand just faceroll any enemy type. People are complaining about the state of the game because every single change the devs make establishes the "meta" (which they claim they don't want) further and further.Sure you can take other stuff, but it would be more fun if the assault rifles and submachine guns, for example, were worth a shit.
>>738201330>I have to take the meta because...I JUST HAVE TO, OKAY?!!!
>>738201396shhh you cant even solo the game
>>738201330if the assault rifles and submachine guns, for example, were worth a shit.They are, you just suck shit.
>>738201448nice projection
>>738187924>if you do something you don't enjoy in HD2 for half an hour 3x a week your problem is solvedplaying the game in an unfun meta-whoring way is a great way for me to quit any game. Your suggestion is retarded and non-viable, i'd rather quit a game than do that, and i mostly have, i only hop on once in a blue moon to play big events or experience something new.
>>738201561>projectionlol the gameplay sis? where is it?
>>738201675You first, xixster. You're the one who brought it up. Put up or shut up.
>>738201473uh huh
>>738201758shitter, stop talking now your opinion has no value.
>>738201763>shitters gravitate towards the meta weapons >so that means all these guns are badSo you want all those guns in your pic to be as strong as the eruptor or coyote? I don't think you understand what you're suggesting.
>>738169929You ever try playing on diff 4-7? It's like playing with fucking children.I stopped playing high difficulty because everyone sweats the meta and tries to be as anti social as possible in a squad based game. But at the lower difficulties it's literally teaching people how to do objectives and getting your shit stolen because they see a glowing weapon and just take it. I've seen level 40+ struggle to aim the satellite dish, it's like retard daycare doing low diff sos beacons.Running a squad of friends at diff 7 is probably the most fun you can have in the game. It has the most enemy variety without forcing everyone to use anti large specials. Solo just isn't as fun because you can't bring extra stratagems.
>>738201839Waiting for that video of you soloing, faggot.
>>738201898You have to turn off crossplay if you go 7 or lower. Back when I played the difference was night and day
>>738201895Yes, everything should be roughly evenly balanced in a PVE horde shooter, and there shouldn't even be a "meta loadout." Explosive property weapons are a straight upgrade due to the way the devs have designed the game. Yes, a player can equip a SMG and clear d10, that's not the point. SMGs have literally no use case over the scorcher, for example.
>>738202236It simply isn't possible. Some guns are always gonna be better than the rest. This is especially true when you have a million different guns to choose from.
>>738169720You habe the sweats to thank for that, instead of somehow punishing fleeing battles fights they just add more braindead mobs until the only way to win is kite a big enough group so you can't find new patrols
>>738202351>You habe the sweats to thank for that,?? Every balancing decision has been in favor of the shitters for for over two years now.
>>738202415Except this last one hence why the shitters are throwing a fit and trying to mass negative review the game. I'm fine with running around following a teammate. It's when things get hairy and that teammate cannot fight off anything unless they run away I realize rundivers are shitters getting by on not engaging with the game at all.
>>738202351kek this, every shitty balance change since the game's release can be traced back to the sweatfags complaining that it's no longer the hecking grunt simulator
After a while, I just got bored of a game where unless you're defending an objective, the optimal strategy is to run and never engage anything because its not hard enough to die from it but its also endless and produces no rewards for engaging in it. The game is not trying to kill you, its trying to run down the clock as if its a fighting game round, and to me that's just bizarre design.
>>738202709>>738202718Literally every single outrage or review bomb has been because the game was too hard or too punishing. You faggots are living in fairy tale land.
>>738202798Oh you want to have fun and shoot bugs? Well too bad, you are now labelled a difficulty whiner and devs are too busy "balancing" instead of trying to make a fun horde shooter.
>>738202815I agreed with you that all the balance patches were weakening enemies except this last own, retard. This last one is against the shitter Meta which is doing a Generalist Loadout plus some kind of speed bonus. Generalist Loadout plus speed bonus fucks you over against the new bug strains. Meanwhile my No Flinch+Stalwart or Anti-burn+flamethrower works fine because I know killing bugs at objectives is necessary.
>>738202798People are mass bitching now because they finally made a Bug Strain that outright kills you quick if you're not defending yourself with at least one teammate.
>>738197841I miss old mechs. They look cool unlike the piece of shit mech that dies in one hit.
>>738202798>>738202998Given that you are talking about a specific enemy type that didn't exist until a week ago, it's hard to take your posts seriously.Even on regular maps, you need to engage with enemies directly to achieve objectives past the main objective. Did you simply ignore anything that wasn't the main objective? How did you 'run away' from a drill or flag objective?
>>738203098They're reversing the hivegaurd buff(which wasn't even a buff to begin with because they lost half of their hp) and it's only a matter of time before the spore bugs gets nerfed to appease the loud, angry shitters.
>>738203250Being in a mech is not for tanking hits. It's for offering extra firepower at the expense of mobility. Your teammate is supposed to kill the little guys so your mech can fuck up the mediums and heavy enemies.
>>738202815Literally every single outrage and revievbomb was deserved
>>738203250>They look cool unlike the piece of shit mech that dies in one hitYou do not play the game.
>>738202350well of course there's always going to be some that are better than others, but in my original post my argument was that every single change that the devs make has been solidifying and reinforcing the explosive weapon meta, going on years at this point. Whole categories of guns at the bottom of the pile are never buffed up in order to give them a reason to exist.>rupture strainuse explosive>fleshmobsuse explosive>recent hive guard change with + armor, lower HPuse explosiveas examplesIn addition to the guns, there's the whole balancing the game completely haphazardly without regard to how the rest of our kits work. Another example>pre cyberstan, we get a tank>arrowhead says that because the tank is too tanky, enemies need to do more durable damage (only our equipment has durable health, the change does not affect helldivers themselves)>gives pretty much every enemy over 3x durable damage>no idea why they didn't just make the tank less tanky>in addition to making the tank less tanky, it affected the mechs, car, sentries, GATER truck>in the most recent patch, mechs get a small buff, but even more enemies get a durable damage buff, while non-mech equipment has not been touchedIt just seems like the balance is never holistically considered
>>738203328Oshaune took away digger nigger bugs but AH kept the dragon bitch and Great Worm. Both of which never really got nerfed. Also Predator Strain has never been nerfed.
>>738203298>Given that you are talking about a specific enemy typeI'm not, please stop making up strawmen. It's cringe
>>738203415>AH kept the dragon bitch>never got nerfed. Read the fucking patch notes, you ignorant twat.
>>738203380>fleshmobsuse explosive>recent hive guard change with + armor, lower HPuse explosiveI use flamethrower and machine guns on both of these because I'm not some crutch shitter enslaved by the meta. Digger Niggers were rightfully disabled because they were invulnerable to everything except fire and explosions and explosions killed them dead in seconds.
>>738203492>this glitch where you can't see the fire that's killing you was fixedYeah, I read them. Also you failed to mention Predator Strain which still makes shitters seethe to this day since it's first appearance.
>>738203701You are such a dishonest little faggot freak. lowered the direct damage from the flame attack by 25%1.004.1002025-10-23Changes Spawn rate decreased 50% lower on difficulty 5,6 40% lower on difficulty 7,8,9 33% lower on difficulty 10 Destruction of the wings results in instant termination of the Dragon Wings now have their own health pool of 4000 Health increased from 750 to 1500 Constitution increased from 0 to 2500 Increased how much damage wings take from explosions Explosion damage reduction reduced from 80% to 50%Undocumented Changes Abdominal and Thorax Innards health reduced from 4000 to 3000 Wings % to Main reduced from 50% to 30%>Also you failed to mention Predator Strain which still makes shitters seethe to this day since it's first appearance.Umm, yeah? That's a good thing.
>>738203426>I'm not>a Bug Strain that outright kills you quick>shoot bugsWhat was that, faggot?You didnt delete your own posts, so your own words speak loudly.
>>738203974That wasn't my post, you seem to think that anyone daring to point out flaws of this game is the same anon. Curious behavior. Perhaps reddit is more up to your speed? They don't allow people to badtalk the games
>>738200132>Imagine being a fag whose ego as a cool hardcore gamer is based on finishing a d10 mission in this piss easy game lmaoWilling to bet you get your shit rocked on a regular basis
>>738169720>with such atrocious difficulty designstop playing with randos
>>738200220Didn't even read your post and I still know that you're a fucking retarded nigger and you suck shit at the game. Almost every single complaint this game has ever had has boiled down to a skill issue.
>the devs hate me having fun
>this game is so easy that's why I get unbelievably mad about nerfs
>people complain that the game is too difficult and slash or artificially difficult and unfun>run around using weapons people call garbage on d10 like the Pacifier or the Pummeler all the time and do wellnow if you want to make an argument that the game was better when there weren't 70 heavies in each patrol I can get behind that, though I also enjoyed it when each heavy wasn't instantly dealt with by a sub 3 minute cooldown weapon like the Silo or the ORC, or especially shit like the Ultimatum, so ideally we'd change both design decisions back to how it used to be
>>738205571>People who think the game is too easy get mad at enemy nerfsUmm, yeah? Are you retarded?
>>738205198you are the worst kind of toxic fanboy faggot, stop posting.
>>738206537>You're heckin' toxic!Go back to (r)eddit you little faggot fuck.
>>738203859>Umm, yeah? That's a good thingMy point Arrowhead will never need the Bug Strains. See Predator Strain. Also anyone who complains about Bug Strains being too hard is a shitter and should not play above Diff 7 on normal bugs.
I need ohdough to tell me what to think. What does he think so I can think?
>>738202236I agree, nerf explosive weapons
>>738169720I been playing on 6 and having no real problems, what’s going on?
>>738208019Gamer dads and redditors are upset that D10 is too hard.
>>738175562>I dont wanna grind for the good gear!It's only paid if you're lazy, get to grinding and get your gear up to code if you wanna fight on the front lines and play the hardest content, soldier.>>738182003Yes, you can grind for the stuff but paying for it will always be the quickest option. Though id argue spending the time it takes to get this stuff gives you the experience needed to handle the higher difficulties, see my above block of text.Why are you guys so averse to actually playing games? You see a list of good gear you can unlock by playing and your first thoughts are to pay for it. How about you actually play the game instead of letting your credit card carry you, and maybe you'll be able to handle the hard stuff? I have less than half of the stuff I listed in my original response and I handle the higher difficulties fine because I know how to play.
>>738208256lol yea D10 is meant to be hard so you should learn to not take fights unless you need to and it’s near the objective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKY6Ej4uW_Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKY6Ej4uW_Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKY6Ej4uW_YEvery single fucking crybaby needs to go away and stay the fuck away.
>saved Turingbugbros... we didder it..
>>738208736>it's not p2w, you can just play 2000 matches to farm the gear yourself and you don't NEED every "unlockable" item :)I guess this is normal for the average GaaSfag who regularly gets locked out of >50% of a game's content because all he plays is AAA and gacha trash.
So can you tape hive guard faces to tanks and mechs now? Since apparently that fodder unit is stronger than anything Super Earth can make.
>>738178675why the fuck are furfaggots this into HD2 and why do they always enshitten everything they touch with lousy furfaggot "art"
>>738209761you can just admit you're bad at the game anon, i wont judge you.
>>738209807The "buff" is getting reverted because it was too much for your average HD2 player.
>>738209443Don't ask questions, just consume product and then get excited for next product
>>738210124Buff, nerf, whatever. What is the in-universe logic of how those exist while better armor for Super Earth's best soldiers does not?I thought the devs were claiming to be super autistic about realistic balance?
>>738210216They are, but only when it fucks you over.
>>738210124>it was too much for your average HD2 playerIt was just a retarded change that makes no sense if you think about it even for a few secondsIn fact it's so nonsensical I'm half-convinced it was introduced with the intent of causing controversy and get players to stop talking about warbonds/monetization
>>738169929there's no point in playing anything lower than diff 10 because of the reduced xp/medal rewards. if you play at a lower difficulty it will take you twice as long to unlock warbonds in an already very grindy unlock system
Who the fuck is going to grind SIXTEEN THOUSAND medals to unlock everything in the game without paying? This is some legitimately Korean MMO tier of grind.
>>738210603Those who have been playing since release I guess. New players will not be that autistic, probably.
>>738209980If I am not mistaken, the Discord mods were Reddit mods, also they often made far-leftist statements publically. So, you can see why they allow furfags. Not that this bothers me. I am bothered by those mods.>>738178863I won't say how the game needs to be fixed, but I don't know how a dev can balance the game if clearly seems to be alien to the mechanics.>>738179320I swear, I never saw a community so infected with glazers. The galactic war channel was even a weird hug box for the mods.
>>738203341>>738203376Here's the thing about the old game the new game didn't have. No limb hp. Meaning your mech remains usable as long as it's not 1/3 of it's health. Not having to worry about your arms is one thing. Also hd1 has the heal gun that made mechdiving a pleasant and viable solo strat. This gun is most definitely going to be a jewish warbond in hd2.
>>738203341old mechs or atleast the bastion is meant for mowing down light to med enemies while your teammates focus on armor. Lumberer can do both since it's flamethrower will actually will in close range while the ap gun will kill anything short of illuminates building shields.
>>738210603You can't pay to get medals, retard, you still have to unlock the things.
>>738210124It literally just reinforced the already existent all-front explosive meta. Who needs to aim when you have armor penetrating pure damage that chews all chaff?
>>738210536XP doesn't matter past like level 40 and medals are just about equal on all levels unless you're really truly speedrunning D10.
>>738181463Because they get to max diff in one patch, it gets buffed the next to account for players getting a bit better, then they get their shit kicked in and complain.It's a stupid cycle and everyone involved is kinda retarded.
>>738173889>we removed your ability to get on highground with invisible magic walls cause it was unfair to the enemiesDon't forget them making it impossible to steer pods properly because of that.Just let people drop onto skyscrapers, think how cool it'd be having one guy drop onto a building at the start with an AM rifle to pick off heavier targets and cover everyone else.
>>738198185I like people who fuck off solo in pubs. They're always guaranteed to get detected, and once they have a drop/breach called in on them I can speed run any objective without getting assailed by 700 devs/36 chargers at the same time.
>>738212210That's not how it is and you know it, the reason why people complain is because devs have zero idea how to create difficulty and just rely on cheap bullshit bugged stuff and random instakills.>oh let's add a flying unarmored type enemy and if you kill it and lands somewhere near you, it instagibs you>oh let's add an armored scout strider that has an instakill ranged attack with zero wind-up and no visual cue and let's spam the shit out of them>oh let's add the war strider which is covered in heavy armor with zero functional weakspot on the faction which always had clearly designed weakspots and ragdolls you every 2 seconds and let's spam the shit out of them>oh let's add the leviathans which are nearly unkillable, btw it can one-shot you at range through the heaviest armor and through walls and has zero wind-up or visual cue and let's spam the shit out of them>Oh let's add the vox engine with has tons of HP with it's only weak spot being a set of lights you have to shoot and dump a grenade in it's vent, btw it can one-shot you at range and spawns in patrols and it can have up to six around you at the same time and can shoot you through it's own bodyRinse and repeat until end of service.
>>738182128>new patch adds helicopter>it comes with a new class of armor (-1 armor, 2x all damage taken)>if the windows on the cockpit break you lose 90% of the total health for it>side guns are HMGs with one mag and no reload>enemies now get lock on weapons that specifically target it, and any other vehicle still being dropped, being dispersed among most enemy groups>2 hits from the new lockon weapons are enough to down it>pilot has no weapons they can use on their own>no one uses it because it's trash>2 weeks after adding it, sweeping balance patch nerfs all other vehicles to be on par with the new chopper because they were clearly too OP since no one was using them
>>738175467this, I solo D10, I've played harder porn games
>>738198185>stick to the teamNo, how about I clear 70% of the map while you three try to push through infinite calldowns on yourself trying to reach your first and second objectives?
>>738178429> "devs literally play D10 on stream every couple of months"> shares videos of community managers>"Those are not devs"> "muh moving me goalposts"retard
