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If Japan is smart they will use the newly found momentum to revitalize their dying JRPG market by accepting that the JRPG is never going to be able to compete for the same audience as the ARPG and it should't try to do so. People who like The Witcher 3, Dark Souls, Skyrim and Monster Hunter aren't going to sit through poorly-worded Aerith-tier cringe for 70 hours while some ladyboy airjuggles an angry cactus as fireworks go off.

This is shounen-tier wish fufilment for mentally stunted failed adults who still rent at 30 and 12 year olds who would rather buy gems in a gacha game or doomscroll TikTok.
Until this lesson is learned Final Fantasy will continue to circle the drain.
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Square Enix are retarded though so they won't do shit.
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to be honest, it's really starting to get visible people haven't made children in the past decade.
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>>738171265
This game and ff16 only flopped because they were exclusive to ps5
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>>738171323
Not a problem in Africa, India and China.
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>>738171361
Didn't stop Remake.
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>>738171404
Remake was ps4 and ps5. Ff16 and rebirth only sold 3 million at best, and that's why they dropped ps5 exclusivity like a rock. No one on ps5 cares for their exclusives.
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>>738171361

The console that had more units in circulation than the previous gen when FF7R1 released as an exclusive? Kek.
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Japan needs to be better.
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>>738171474
Sure, but sadly snoys only care about Fortnite, FIFA, and CoD. Astrobot only sold 2 million btw
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>>738171368
People in those countries are too poor to afford games.
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>>738171532

Sure, but Tendies only care about bing-bong wahoo, PCunts only care about Fortnite and FOTM friendslop while Xbox doesn't exist. None of the above care about Final Fantasy.
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>>738171630
>PCunts only care about Fortnite
Actually snoy it's the complete opposite. You don't care about anything but MTX like the cancer you are in gaming
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>>738171265
>who still rent at 30
That's totally normal tho
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>>738171453
>Ff16 and rebirth only sold 3 million at best
Don't know about Rebirth, but FF16 sold 3 million in its first week on PS5. Since then the PC and xbox version released. It's likely 5+ million by now
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>>738171265
>newly found momentum
what newly found momentum?
traditional jrpgs haven't had a home run in decades unless you count expedition 33
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>>738171323
Yeah honestly I'm kind of tired of 80% of the people I see be 50+. I'm not even that young myself, I'm 39, but seeing so many old people is genuinely a downer.
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>>738171737
Rebirth was so low they didnt announce it so you can assume it was lower than 3m
and 3 million is pathetic for a budget of ff16, which is why you'll never see a ps5 exclusive from SE again
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>>738171265
77% of 0 is still 0
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>>738171793
doujin h-games
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They bet it all on snoys and lost the gamble, there's still 2 more versions coming out next month and Nintendo will have to save them.
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>>738171265
People 30 have longevity. Zoomzooms might develop asscancer in their 20s and die before they hit 30.
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>>738171265
>People who like The Witcher 3, Dark Souls, Skyrim and Monster Hunter aren't going to sit through poorly-worded Aerith-tier cringe for 70 hours while some ladyboy airjuggles an angry cactus as fireworks go off.
But I like most of those games and love Rebirth as well. Seems like a you problem.
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>>738171265
We've been saying similiar things since the start anon. Even then, ARPG part isn't the issue, tight input windows is. Put stuff in like input queing a'la Xenogears and timely settings a'la XVI and the problem literally solves itself.
>b-but muh skill expression
Get a life. You're a basic white boy (if at all) sitting in your bedroom while wearing boxers and sweaty t-shirt. No one cares about yor ub3r micro.
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>>738171265
They should make Tifa's tits five times bigger and include a naked sex minigame where you can play with her tits and have them flop around like crazy.
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>>738171593
But not kids huh
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>>738171323
Yeah, dunno why the obsession with Square Enix though, maybe to derail from other companies? I mean I doubt it's Squeenix fault that people are not having children, in the future entertainment industry will sink even more
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>>738171862
Yep, I feel bad for the few kids left, it's so depressing. I think civilization is really over, elites keep ignoring women have menopause, no, it can't be reversed when that happens
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>>738175474
Stop falling for le poor meme, those people get hard carried by NGOs giving them money, food, clothes, medicine etc for free. They can even build any shit house without having to pay taxes.
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>>738171593
>China
>Poor
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>>738171265
>139% of players are old
Yeah this sure sounds like a real statistic.
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They did just fine with Remake. The problem is Nojima completely fisted in convoluted bullshit into Rebirth beyond the time ghosts and multiverse fuckery.
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>>738171361
So millions of people who wanted it on PC and Switch just decided they weren't interested because they didn't get it on day one?
I guess they didn't want it that badly then.
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>>738175474
It doesn't cost any money to shit out a kid.
Westerners don't avoid having kids because it costs money to have sex and get pregnant. They avoid it because they have the foresight to realize that a child will cost the money in the future. Browns don't have that foresight.
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Cam't improve if thw owning company's too stupid to see the problem.
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>>738173430
Kek fuck off normalfag
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I'm surprised people over 30 have such shit taste.
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>>738171265
If this is true then why was Rebirth written like it's for toddlers?
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>>738171265
The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.
tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
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>>738178463
beyond barry and the 3 discord shills bumping aerith threads from page 10 it is already forgotten
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>>738171265
makes sense. uncs have shit taste in vidya.
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>>738178463
Well... yeah? This is already happening outside the obsessive bubbles who manufacture perpetual fake hype.
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>>738178547
This. If you go anywhere else on thw internet and ask them what they thought about Rebirth they'd start taking about the Binding of Isaac.
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>>738178463
SE can then start hyping up the next FF7 remake.
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I'm 19 and I don't think anyone my age knows what Final Fantasy is. The only exception is 2 guys I know who play the MMO on and off.
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>>738179027
Even most indies are more popular than nintendo now
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>>738179132
Final Fantasy is literally the Star Wars of video games. It had like 3 good entries and dozens upon dozens of shit entries but people keep giving them the benefit of a doubt.
>This time it will surely be like the old days again!
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>>738179316
The only JRPG series under the SE umbrella that feels like the old days is Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy has tripled down on its current direction.
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Did anyone see that porn video of Tifa having sex with a horse? I think it was by someone called zmsfm? It was really hot, why didn't he make more.
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>>738171265
kys
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>>738179553
Are you really going to force the horse shit with Tifa too, zeldafag?
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>>738171323
In some ways, but not in this case.
Kids still play the Fortnites, the Roblox and the Pokemons.

Square Enix are just fucking shit and raped their flagship franchise for no reason at all.
More children around wouldnt make current Final Fantasy dogshit more appealing.
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>>738179786
What? I thought this thread was appropriate to ask about Tifa porn, it was a really good video.
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>>738171737
>It's likely 5+ million by now
ff16 had poor words of mouth
everyone who finished it thought it was a waste of time
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>>738171265
>failed adults
What is this retarded term? You can do whatever you want after you're over the age of 18 as long as it doesn't break the law.
""Failed"" because of what exactly? Some society made-up norms? Don't make me laugh.
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>>738173430
and you are >35
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>>738176124
>Nomura wanted time ghosts
>Nojima wanted convoluted endings
>Hamaguchi wanted to shoe horn Sephiroth into every encounters
>Kitase wanted to change the course of the game
>Toriyama wanted different things, depend on which weeds he took that day.
Bravo
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>>738180335
Kys zeldatroon
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>30 year old game has a player base that's mostly over 30
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>>738171737
>likely 5+ million by now
Lmao no. 3.5m at best.
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>>738171265
Only people 30+ would support a game full of niggers and LGBT like shartbirth.
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How many people in this thread have actually played Rebirth? Remake was a solid 8/10 and Rebirth is a solid 9/10. The combat is amazing, the music is amazing, the pacing is great, tons of minigames. I'm at chapter 10 and this is by far the best game that I've played since Nioh 2 (fuck Nioh 3).
Only notable downside is Tifa's design but that's easily fixable on PC. Lighting is also fucked and I would have liked it more if the whole party interacted in side quests instead of one to two characters max.
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>>738181020
Why would a zeldafag jack it to Tifa's porn, imbecile?
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>>738171265
trvke
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>>738171323
No, it's just kids don't play RPGs. Kids are playing Fortnite and Roblox, which is why companies are so insistent on making successful live service games, since those have the biggest audience, said audience slowly getting actual jobs (albeit many of them part-time).
Really its always been the case that trends squash down other gaming ideas, like how NES and SNES killed off the predominately popular idea of games being endless arcade titles, or how 00s and 10s pushed the most popular games to being online multiplayer titles.
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>>738180634
Aww, such an edgy rebel you are! When do you fuck off back to your jungle?
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>>738181543

No the original sold 15m while Rebirth sold 2m. The 30 year old playerbase has mostly left to build careers and raise families.
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>>738181791
I got bored by the time I got to the ship and dropped it. Game is way too bloated and drawn-out while being simultaneously really linear
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>>738171368
>Not a problem in China
>China
ror rmao
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>>738171265
it's mostly a series for browns now
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>>738171323
This.
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The absolute vast majority of gen z and younger don't play singleplayer games.
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>>738185173
They do. The games just can't be trash.
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>>738181706
honestly this
gen z and alphies practically dodge all this shit
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I just refuse to buy remade games. Make new and better stuff.
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>>738171265
These RETARDS shot themselves in the foot so bad by making this into a trillogy.
This *could* have served as an introduction to the franchise for younglings if it was a single game like RE2R, something you can just jump into and complete in a reasonable timeframe to see what the uncs were hyped about. But no, they stretched it into being hundreds of hours long and decided to release it in fragments over nearly a decade.
It's a treat for people who already love FF7, which there are a few, but it's extremely uninviting for new blood.
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>>738171297
FPBP
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>>738183990

Has been since the PS2.
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>>738171265
>their dying JRPG market
>post is actually all about shit fantasy
dude, pokemon, atlus ips and dragon quest; shut the fuck up
don't use the market to ragebait about one series you hate
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>>738185998
Wouldn't have mattered when the cast, the combat and the story are completely ruined.
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>>738186914
New players don't have expectations for how these things "should" be like the same way oldfags do. This is not an issue for them, they haven't played the original.
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About to start this game. Which is the most fun character to play as before getting Yuffie?
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They should have just.remade the game with updated graphics and gameplay.
I don't care about the new story.
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>>738187004
I'm and oldfag and I'm glad they're doing their own thing. If I wanted to play FF7 I'd just play FF7. I can rewind my brain to the point where it was the pinnacle of gameplay and graphics.

Besides, they got the single most important thing right. That Aeris is the tomboy and Tifa is the girly-girl.
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I beat FF7 before anyone else ITT was even born and I loved it. Except the ghosts but they're gone now.
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>>738188043
hehe



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