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Why do zoomers latch onto shitty RPGmaker games and pretend they are the deepest thing in the world? Have they not read a single book in their lives?
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>>738173324
fpbp
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>>738173276
That doesnt look like Japanese
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>>738173324
FPBP
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>>738173276
>muh books
We play games because the are FUN, books are fucking boring
>>738173324
Yeah OP get back to 2ch, you are not welcomed here
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>>738173276
People who play black souls 2 are less likely to become a meat cube than people who read tolstoi. Have you seen at least one person in a meat cube who played black souls? I doubt it.
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>>738173276
Gacha RPGs are better tho
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>>738173276
no book has ever had nearly as much impact on me or been nearly as enjoyable as the storytelling in weird niche rpgmaker games. books are boring. /lit/ is gay.
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I can guarantee if Russia was rangebanned board quality would dramatically improve immediately
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>>738173276
Because any shitty game will win over a vocal niche crowd if you can rape the NPC's
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In a better world, on a better timeline, RPG Maker sludge slurpers latch onto games with actual good gameplay instead, such as pic related.
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>>738173950
I agree sar, this board needs more Dalit Chads
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>>738173276
BS2 is the gateway drug to reading, actually.
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>>738174321
THANK YOU!
Again I managed to forget what the fuck that game was called so I couldn't find it. Jesus Christ I swear that it's got the least memorable name ever lol; or I'm just retarded

Thanks again.
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Do I need to play Black Souls before Black Souls II?
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>>738173276
bookfags getting mogged by gamechads every day
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>>738173276
They have not read a book. They can't read more than 2 sentences at a time.
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>>738175674
Yes. I also heavily recommend reading Alice in Wonderland, Through the Looking-Glass and Hunting of the Snark before you jump into BS2. Almost every character is a reference to the Alice books, ranging from mainstream ones like Cheshire Cat, to obscure ones like Mary Ann and Mabel.
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>>738173324
fpbp
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>>738173276
It's just weebs becoming more numerous. Plus illiteracy.

Japanese storytelling in games knows only the following tricks:
>retelling the same few Shinto/Buddhist myths over and over
>ripping off Western media
>X is a cycle
>slice of life
>misery porn mixed in with pseudo-philosophy
>literally just takes place in Japan

That's it. They have nothing else to offer when it comes to stories in games.
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>>738175869
Only have two of those, will have to order Hunting of the Snark then. Thanks!
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>>738175972
TRVKE. Japanese storytelling is extremely basic and only appeals to midwits.
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>>738176460
Most of all it's STAGNANT. Unless they find some new piece of Western media to cling onto and copy, they can't introduce anything new.
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>>738173276
Oднo тeбя зacтaвляют читaть нacильнo, втopoe ты читaeшь пo cвoeмy жeлaнию.
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>>738175972
tell me about the great story telling of contemporary western games.
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>>738173276
>zoomers
you mean backloggd trannies?
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>>738176596
All I need is to point out how many Japanese games rip off Western stories, and how few Western games rip off Japanese stories.
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>>738176696
that just exposes the insularity of westoid writing.
you may try again.
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>>738175972
>Japanese storytelling in games knows only
You bring up common tropes as if common tropes don't exist and your view isn't based entirely on the fact that you're consuming the cultural waste product of an alien culture curated and imported to you by glorified cultural dumpster divers who you rely on as intermediaries, as you have no contact with said culture yourself.

I also wonder what modern western standard you're comparing them to. Any time anyone talks about the artistic merit of the west all anyone brings up is a bunch of russians that had been served as worm food centuries ago and vdeo games from half a century ago. It's not a good look.
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>>738176871
Holy cope
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>>738177949
Enjoy your amazing western writing about niggers, trannies and niggertrannies.
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>>738176421
Hunting of the Snark is like 20, maybe 30 pages long. Sometimes it's included with Alice (my Norton copy has it), but if it's not, just read it off of Gutenberg.
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I just got warned for posting Oxen of the Sun
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https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/738108112/#738125175
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>>738173276
>terrorist
back to your shithole
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>>738175972
True, but care to provide examples of a work that isn't full of common tropes / subversions of those tropes / ironic meta-subversions of said tropes?
Not even trying to be contrarian, I'm genuinely in need of a breath of fresh air in this postmodernist hell.
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>>738179002
The Epic of Gilgamesh
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I like postmodernism.
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>>738179910
dabbling in postmodernism is a good reminder that chestertons fence is very real.
you have to see the aftermath of breaking tradition to truly see the merit of said tradition.
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>>738179910
The issue with postmodernism is that it hit mainstream, and got so overused that it lost any meaning and artistic expression, which is amusing considering how it came to be.
Nowadays people just wrap shit in twenty layers of irony 'cause everyone is doing it plus it's safer than being genuine.
Normies unironically ruin everything.
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>>738174321
Intriguing... downloadan
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Fuck Russians.
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>>738173276
>muh zoomers
Bitching about young people won't make you any younger. Anyway, zoomers are like 30 or something by now.
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>>738180125
It's not hard. Romanticism as a current was already a knee-jerk response to the earliest modernization of society and the rigid mentality the age of reason was bringing. People were doubling down on the value of human experience above rationality and order.
It didn't matter because technological progress kept going regardless of anyone's will, with the equivalent of today's techbros thinking technology was going to save them from boring work in the fields and being lower class. (It did, by turning them into starving proletarians.)

Postmodernism is yet another knee-jerk response, this time to the late industrial age, trying to go past objectivity itself using a mix of solipsist and nihilist nitpicking to deny reality itself. It's why you got that there are more than two "genders" or that women are "equal" to men, and other such dishonest delusions. It's just a desperate battle to break the age of reason yet again, by attacking the seams of reality and people's very senses, like with flat earthers, LGBTs, Orwellian political shifts in public opinion through gaslighting (like "you weren't forced to take the COVID vaccine") and so on.

So for over 200 years now humanity is pretty much twisting on itself to refuse accepting that our biological nature can adapt to technology, but sure as hell can't enjoy doing so healthily no matter what. That we can act like cogs in the machine, but we hate it. Smartphones and the internet being the latest iteration.

Proof: every single thing you like of Vidya or even media can be done without technology. Every story, every song, every fantasy doesn't need technology and could be repeated around a campfire or written with ink and quill or roleplayed with others. Technology just rehashes basic human interests into a shiny new package that gets sold to you, so now you're terrified of living without it, since you perceive your most profound desires to be given to you by cash and technology, but they're cruel delusions.
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>>738173324
op eternally BTFO
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>>738181236
> every single thing you like of Vidya...can be done without technology
I was with you until this obviously false statement.
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>volume 1, part 1
>6 and a half hours
so it's even longer than that, what the fuck is this comparison? 2chers are a whole new level of retarded
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>>738181319
This, what about the gameplay?
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>>738173324
thanks wario
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>>738173276
Why do prudes shit on rpgmaker eroge and pretend like they've got no merit whatsoever, just because the games don't shy away from erotic content?
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>>738182187
What possible artistic merit can there be in:
>Such a slender child: her throat swallowing, strummed to a moan as he grabs her hair, twists it... she has him all figured out. Knows exactly when to take her mouth away and stand up, high-heeled Parisian slippers planted to either side of him, swaying, hair softly waving forward to frame her face, repeated by the corset darkly framing her pubic mound and belly. Raising bare arms, little Bianca lifts her long hair, tosses her little head to let the mane shiver down her back, needle-tipped fingers drifting then down slowly, making him wait, down over the satin, all the shiny hooks and laces, to her thighs. Then her face, round with baby-fat, enormous night-shadowed eyes comes swooping in as she kneels, guides his penis into her and settles slow, excruciating till he fills her, stuffs her full...
>Now something, oh, kind of funny happens here. Not that Slothrop is really aware of it now, while it’s going on—but later on, it will occur to him that he was—this may sound odd, but he was somehow, actually, well, inside his own cock. If you can imagine such a thing. Yes, inside the metropolitan organ entirely, all other colonial tissue forgotten and left to fend for itself, his arms and legs it seems woven among vessels and ducts, his sperm roaring louder and louder, getting ready to erupt, somewhere below his feet... maroon and evening cuntlight reaches him in a single ray through the opening at the top, refracted through the clear juices flowing up around him. He is enclosed. Everything is about to come, come incredibly, and he’s helpless here in this exploding emprise... red flesh echoing... an extraordinary sense of waiting to rise...
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>>738173324
>Le ESL boogeyman
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>>738183551
Rather "not even using civilized people alphabet" man.
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>>738173276
>Too much reading in a video game
>"Just read a book"
>Too much cutscenes in a video game
>"Just watch a movie"
So what's the balance here?
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>>738183757
>viet gooks and turk roaches are civilized



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