Am I being fucking gaslit?>new mechanic is essentially exactly the same as lilies except the flashy button is a gcd you can press at anytime>afflatus solace and rapture still work exactly the same just tied to plenary>aquaveil and divine benison are now the same fucking button despite being different effectsWhite mage plays exactly the same as before they just added the same exact lily mechanic on top of the existing one. I cannot believe this is being praised.They gave bard the choice of which “rotation it wants to do” by giving you a choice of 3 buffs 2 of which offer the same exact end result and paladin now has a “counter” in an extremely loose sense of the word and you faggots call this fixing jobs?This is fucking psychotic. Is there a single person that plays this game that actually enjoys videogames?
aiiieee i can't use an afflatus overheal for lilies now, it has to be a cure GCD that heals to generate stacks for miserythis isn't a change at all (motorboating my lips with a finger) debybybyoboybybybuby
>>738173949Anon, guess what!Adopt evolved mode or perish.
You play the uwu healslut job, if you want job complexity you need to pick any other job.
white mage more like white breadyou WILL learn a heal rotation once they start putting in actual difficult healing fights in 8.5
>WHM complaining about liliesJust cast glare you faggot. Its an OGCD now.
>>738174231Thats not the problem. The problem is that they work exactly the same. Misery wasn’t even a dps increase so there was no need to “waste” afflatus on purpose
>>738173949It's being extremely overhyped. They are basically streamlining everything and adding some minimal new things like the directional dash or the "counter" (lol)Also they're blatantly lying when they said Evolved won't be easy mode, it very obviously will be
>>738174535I think you mean instant cast GCD, not oGCD
We're getting romance options it's gonna be greathttps://files.catbox.moe/jo6gfq.mp4
>>738173949>exact lily mechanicThe new one specifically only triggers if you actually restore HP and is not limited by charges. So unlike Lilies, which WHMs love to spend while not being helpful all, this new one actually refunds you for healing.
Evolved can't be the easy mode because Stillborn already is.
Wh*te mages aren't people and the entire job's identity is "baby googoo gaga job" anyway.
>>738176747Can I sexo Krile?
>>738176747https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZjUiKeXeOc
All races other than Lalafell should be removed from the game.
>>738178450Have you considered peaceful coexistence with biggers?
Something about Sena Bryer burning American flags and being encouraged by his simps like GrimnoGhost?
>>738178850Literally who? Sounds like an utter faggot though.
>>738178850Why should I care what some literal who faggots are saying on Xitter?>she
Dragoon and Paladin both got reworks that make them more interesting and give them more job identity. White Mage got dumbed down further because its identity is "the low IQ healer". Sucks to be a WHM main but wait for the SCH and AST reworks before writing off evolved healing entirely.
>Dude, having Cover tied to the gap closer sucks, they should be separated into their own buttonsIs he right?
>>738179185speen....
>>738178850>burning a us flag on 4th of july
>>738179328Yes!Why would I want to spin the bosses on the melee to cover a friend? What if there is a death puddle in the way when I want to cover my friend? What if we're doing something like Caloric and I can't cover a friend? What if there's an arena gap and I wanna cover a friend? What if I'm bound and want to cover a friend? What if I need all the dashes later and wanna cover a friend? What if I want to cover a friend and I have Allagan Rot? What if I want to cover a friend and I have the boss throwing AoE auto attacks at me? What if I want to cover a friend and the mechanic requires me to be somewhere specific?This is just off of the top of my head
>Fanfest>People hyped as shit for the new expansion>Meanwhile nobody is talking the last main patch has content for a few hours, raiders have to wait for June for the Ultimate and casuals at the end of July for OC2 and September for Beastmaster.
>>738179328in terms of practicality it is pretty stupid but it does allow for more impressive skill expression if you manage to pull it off
>>738179467>raids>contentliterally who cares90% of the subs would genuinely prefer the game never got an update again
>>738179573This. Mmo escapists HATE change which is why they're being so hysterical over evolved jobs. Their sense of self is also tied to how good they are at the game in its current paradigm so the thought of that paradigm suddenly changing is akin to annihilation for them.
>Japanese love lalafellsBe more like the Japanese
>>738179653i was referring to the fact that each update breaks mods and doesn't actually add anything for rp generally
>>738179742Ok well two things can be true
>>738173949>Aquaveil and divine benison are now the same fucking button despite being different effectsI was bothered by this but I came to realise it makes a lot of sense from the perspective of making leveling exciting, you start off with 1 shield and then later get to layer a second shield on top of it, it also means WHM has one less stack of heal casts which is good for job identity.I did have one other specific concern that held on more but I can't remember what it was now lol, I'll start bitching about it again when I remember it I guessBut beyond those 2 specific concerns I also broadly don't like 1 button combos, hopefully I can play evolved mode but with old style combos, even in that case though I will feel sorry for new players who don't know any better
>>738179705Only r*dditards hate lalafells. Any lala hater on /v/ is just a tourist r*dditor.
>>738179446Think of cover as a stronger version of intervention that you can only do in specific scenarios. They probably don't want you to do it all the time on purpose (they still have ptsd from Stormblood) so that's why cover has all the limitations that it has right now and in evolved they just replaced the oath gauge cost with another limitation (having to gap close to your party member).Is it worse than current Cover? Who knows, but it adds some flavor to the job while also maintaining a number of limitations on the ability so you can't exploit it as much.
>>738173949I have no opinions until I play it myself. I am not optimistic or pessimistic.
>>738179653The game very desperately needed a shakeup and they're bitching that it's not looking like how they wanted it to. Another expac with Shadowbringers jobs would have been a death sentence for the game. I highly doubt CBU3 wants to develop for VRChat Lite.>>738179705The only people that don't like lalas are faggots that keep an encyclopedic knowledge of anime character ages to harass people on Bluesky about. I hope Black Cat's age getting dropped got lots of them to rope over the loads they blasted to an underage character
I just want evolved already
>>738179849Jamie Jams is an actual autogynephile
>>738179886I do hope it gets patched in before 8.0. I'd really like to test it.
>>738179917I just thought the screenshot was funny, I'm not surprised it's a troon
>>738179467every patch is like thisthe game is only worth subbing to only one month per year, if not even less frequently, because the content is so anorectic
>>738178850>Willing to shit on Wuk's American VA all over Shitter>Still calling a man 'She' and 'her'. Jesus fucking basedchrist.
>>738179705the problem with lalas is a good amount of the players are "haha im le midget xdddd" memelord niggers and the design itself isn't degenerate or interesting enough. good thing mods exist.
Post some peak job identity design ideas for evolved>MNK gets faster and faster if you maintain your combos until you get 1 second GCDs>BLM can keep stacking Astral Fire to get stronger and slower until they're casting 12 second Fire IV and bitching at the healer to give them a shield>SGE has a Eukrasian version of every GCD>AST has an actual deck of cards and buttons to shuffle & redraw, you have to card count to be good>SCH cleric stance and lots of dots>VPR also gets a stance toggle between dual-wielding and 2H sword
I used a mod to change wuk lamats voice to JP while the rest of the game is in ENG. Totally changes the character.
>>738180172sounds like cope from a bluesky troon or redditoryou should go back there
>>738180196sex with wuk (jp)
>>738180196no, you just hate the VA. the character is still dogshit and this is evidenced by other languages who had biological women voice the character still lambasting DT
>>738180215>bluesky trooni literally called it too safeyou should go back
>>738180215You now remember when FFXIV opened a bluesky account after a single thread about it on the Official Forums requesting for it. Now tens of thousands of bluesky troons are being doxed and having their entire lives ruined.Fucking retards.
>>738180254this but futa wuk
>>738179328It is almost as if cover in its current form is overpowered and them forcing you to gap close and only having a 3 second duration is a nerf to make pld, the strongest tank, a bit more in line with the others, while also adding some cute new use cases for cover that is fun to play around with but less overpowered? (Since PLD manages downtime with holy spirits already)
>>738180196I played in JP and the character was still shit. 7.0-7.3 was a real drag.
>>738180275cope loony troonback to /reddit/
>>738180273Oh, yeah, I hate the tranny va. But the tranny va overrode all other aspects of the character. Because of that, she feels like a brand new character cuz I'm not repulsed.
>>738180389but it's still shit, you just covered it in glitter
>>738180196I watched one cutscene in japanese and she just sounds like a Naruto knock-off
>>738180295>Now tens of thousands of bluesky troons are being doxed and having their entire lives ruined.qrd?
>>738180196>>738180273I hate the VA, yes I hate men who think they are women simply because they took pills to cope. You can't change DNA you are a man and will always be that's how it is so when a man is voicing a female character, one that is meant to be 17 years old and the man voicing the character was 37 at the time of recording there's going to be a massive disconnect in how the character is presented and the performance.I used to hate gays but then I learned there is a difference, there are gays who live normal lives just like everyone else but are sexually attracted to other men, they don't make that their personality and can live successful happy lives.Then there are faggots who make their sexuality their entire personality, they are not happy people, they are very rude, very obnoxious and tend to be angry a lot.Then there are trans, men who aren't even attracted to other men, they're simply failed men that have porn addictions, get caught up in absolute degeneracy and make it their entire personality to the nth degree possible, they go even beyond faggots in that faggots make that their personality but Trans make being trans not just their own entire personality but try their hardest to make it everyone elses personality as well, having to accomodate them, having to change our entire ways to accomodate them.It's no fucking wonder people are sick to the back teeth of it. Then you have this 'Sena' (not real name) who doesn't even try to 'pass' is very clearly a mentally ill man but got in with the localisation director at the time, and that allowed him an in at Square Enix to voice a mainline character for an expansion to an audience of hundreds of thousands to the low millions. Let me be clear, this person was given this role something far beyond their ability simply because of how they had played into identity politics and Kate (localisation director at the time) wanted to make a political statement of the direction the game was going to take.
>>738180445You simply don't understand my disgust.
>Am I being fucking gaslit?no you are just retarded, they said verbatim that they want white mage to be the easy mode retard job in the live stream. all the other jobs they showed would be harder to play than their current reborn iteration.
>>738180196that sounds jarring as hell though probably less jarring than listening to the troonyou should stop pussyfooting and just change the entire game's VA to superior nippon
>>738179328it makes sense from a realism standpoint. If you're protecting someone with your shield you obviously need to be right next to them. Having a magic tether that just transfers the damage looks fucking dumb.
>>738180543not fucking reading that, i did not fucking ask for your life storythe character is shit regardless of VA
>>738180569>all the other jobs they showed would be harder to play than their current reborn iteration.You can play VPR right now and realize that this is not true at all. They said the same thing about VPR and all the jobs are turning into VPR.
I AM TIRED OF WUK LAMAT DISCOURSE THEY SHELVED HER LAST PATCH FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK I'M TIRED OF IT SHE'S FUCKING GONE YES YES I HATE HER TOO FUCK
>>738180643you forget that vpr actually had to think before jp players complained about it and they made it in line with every other job in the game.
Pat won
>>738180569PLD is largely unchanged.
>>738180702but she's voiced by a tranny
>>738180612There is something only about games where I always prefer using the eng dub, even when it's shit. It's like my brain doesn't process what I'm reading when I hear the JP dub alongside the text I'm reading. Doesn't happen with anime or movies, just with games. I don't get it.
>>738180725YESSSS I HATE THE TRANNY TOO MAY HE FOREVER BE UNEMPLOYED BUT HE'S FUCKING GONE FUCK I'M TIRED OF IT HE'S FUCKING GONE
>>738180756That's pretty interesting. However it does sound annoying for you.
>people actually think ack lmao is gone foreverit's like you retards didn't do the job quests in the past two xpacs
>>738180702Sorry, I just got back into the game. Haven't played since launch, since this mod didn't exist then.
>>738180709It's funny watching people blame this or that group over here, but it's the Japs that ask for all the shit we hate.
>>738180756do you understand what they're saying or something? if it's mostly foreign babble i figure you just read the text without getting distracted
>>738179467I have to catch up on 7.0-whatever the fuck because dawntrail was unbearable enough to make me quit the game twice. I have content to do.
>>738180836she is just going to show up again at the end of this arc story and probably no even voiced.
feels like DT went on sale 3 times as often as other xpacs
>>738181059maybe if they added a free msq skip it'd convince people to buy it for the next expansion
>>738180836see the conversation that just happened above your post. /v/ only hates yuck lmao because of the VA. if wuk's not voiced "we" don't give a shit because the tranny va is all that matters. no it doesn't matter she sucks up all the attention even when she's not present, no it doesn't matter she was the #2 character with the most lines in the base xpac alone, no it doesn't matter she overshadows your own character, no it doesn't matter her character has the power levels greater than the WoL, the character and its writing being shit does not matter at all, the troon VA is the only thing that matters to "us".
>>738180889Yes, that is probably the problem. I don't know Japanese, but I've watched hundreds of anime series and listened to hundreds of Voice Works from DLsite. I've picked up some words. Enough to know what is being talked about, but not in any detail. So, my brain is probably translating (poorly) what they are saying while I'm also reading in English. Another problem is that my brain tries to convert the sound of JP voices into ENG voices. I'm not just hearing what they sound like in Japanese, but also what my brain thinks they sound like in English.
>>738181139Check out the cope from this HRT golem
>>738181139>shit character gets horrible tranny VA that magnifies how shitty the character isyes normal people instinctively dislike trannies you freak. sex pests are easily recognized and justly cast out from acceptance. you should know this from experience.
>>738181289>>738181326>i'm going to call this person using words like "tranny" and "troon" a tranny, that'll show them!you faggots are completely mindbroken
>>738180721True and also not true. Pld:s core rotation changes a lot but in Evolve you gonna have to "hit" those counter attacks to keep up your damage, so it will also be very different. Kinda like TBN optimization on steroids.
>>738181520You know PLD already gets +15% damage reduction by timing Sheltron correctly right? If you aren't a complete shitter you're already playing the job the same as the evolved version.
>>738173949>White mage plays exactly the same as before they just added the same exact lily mechanic on top of the existing one. I cannot believe this is being praised.I mean, come on now, the White Mage is the most boring healer and job short of Summoner, arguably more so depending on your preferences. Were you expecting a massive reinvention when that's just how Final Fantasy is?
the only thing that bothers me is the loss of presence of mind and bell but everything so far looks OK there just isn't enough information about all the intended changes and how WHM actually functions in content, I'll reserve my judgement until evercold gets closer to releasing
i don't know how anyone could think the changes will be good after seeing what they did to SMN and BLM, and how PCT and VPR currently play
>>738181606They've still got Bell. Presence of Mind makes sense to cut since their attacks are now instant, unless you want to pretend you ever pressed that button to make your heals faster.
>>738179886Honestly just going to XIVCombos unless there's a better alternative, because it's clear as a controller player the devs want to shift people that way now.
>>738181403The character's fucking obnoxious. It being voiced by a Discord groomer from Kentucky certainly didn't help, but she could have been voiced by Tara Strong or Grey DeLisle and the character would still be written like shit and a smothering wet blanket over what could have been a story.
>>738176849Afflatus misery doesn’t refund dps. If any whm spent it just because they were retarded unless it was a dungeon pull or for movement. It doesn’t change the fact that the “new one” still works exactly the same.
>>738180702The beatings of Dawntrail and Wuk Lamat will continue until FFXIV's morale improves. Not until the last defender of that cursed expansion understands that it almost ruined the entire game will I ever stop shitting on Dawntrail.
>>738181606it's also dependent on how the fights are in the expansion
>>738181991Most of them just don't want to see their preferred gooning method come under fire. They don't play the game, they play Penumbra and paint their keyboard white on Balmung.
>>738181976>The old one works differently>The new one works exactly the sameMake up your mind schizo.
>>738182080It works the same. You are finding the smallest, most irrelevant “difference” to justify it. Its basically something an actual mentally ill fanatic would do.
>>738181867thanks for repeating what i've been saying this entire thread back at me i guess
>>738182154Why are you projecting so hard bro? The post I quoted is the one calling them different, not me.
>>738182158Short term memory loss is a serious condition, anon. You should find a neurologist
so is the new holy sanctuary spell buffed by all GCD heals (including unbuffed medicas/cures) or do you only gain sanctity by casting afflatus spells?
>>738181572How many times has correct Sheltron timing saved you from dying? For me it was literally only once, in a low-level dungeon where the healer was dead.Alternatively, how many times has correct Sheltron timing saved a healer resource? 15% mit on an auto attack is tiny and that's what you'll mostly be using it on since it's a short cooldown and tankbusters are infrequent.Evolved mode changes Sheltron from>I guess I should optimise this since I have nothing else to do with the gauge right nowto>Fuck yeah look at how many counters I can hit in this fightIt's simply more fun to have it unlock a GCD. Being meaningfully rewarded for using your kit correctly is a good thing.
>>738182590Yes.
>>738181572>You know PLD already gets +15% damage reduction by timing Sheltron correctly right?i play tank, cleared both savage and ultimates, have thousands of hours in this game and i never knew this was a thing, clearly this is a nothing burger.
>you don't lose Battle High anymore in pvpIs this a good or bad change everyone?
>>738181572I'm very much aware and I currently play like that. I also now it takes about 25 to 30 seconds to build 50 meter currently, that you can't overcap during downtime phases and that there is no punishment in dps to sitting on a 100 meter.I personally time my holy sheltron to boss autos to avoid overcapping when I got free mits, so to me it's gonna stay pretty samey. A majority of PLD players don't play to this level though and frequently sit on full meter (I usually 2x to 3x meter consumption compared to the average pld AND compared to top logs, most parsebrains are ass at self mit plans). Losing dps because of being a slacker with the self mit will be a big change to most pld players.
>>738182883Good if you're a good player, worse if you're a bad player.You can make a mistake or sacrifice yourself and not lose 100bh so you continue to carry the match. Meanwhile shitters don't do much more with it, they likely die more than ever because with everyone at max battle high in the lategame, you can exploded incredibly fast during engagements.
>>738183026It also clearly exposes the people afking since they're the only ones who won't be max by the end.
>>738182596I do ultimates so that aspect has saved my bacon more times than I can count when some messed up their mit casts (me fucking up, cotank forgetting buddy mit, lazy healers, etc)Why do you even contribute to this discussion if your frame of reference is a piece of content that can be done entirely without mitigation?
>>738182883I hate itIts no longer satisfying assassinating BH5s as a NIN
>>738173949Evolved jobs are unironically more interesting and better designed than reborn jobs and anyone that disagrees with that is a midwit that thinks lots of buttons you press every 30/60/120 seconds is complex which it isn't.
what did they mean by giving Ysayle a puffy vagina?
>>738179328Reminder that all the things xeno says about evolved stems from him being ass blast mad evolved war is an offtank
Theories for the new jobs?I want Mystic Knight and Templar
>>738173949>Plays white mage>Expecrs to do anything beyond pushing Cure buttonsIf you want a White Mage with utility then go play XI.
>>738182590Regular gcd cures (so cure and medica) give you stacks to buff holy sanctuary (up to 3) when you heal hp with them.Afflatus cures still exist and replace your regular gcd cure buttons whenever you press plenary, you gain lily stacks overtime just like before.Both mechanics “refund” dps rather than give you more dps which is exactly what afflatus does right now (afflatus misery potency is 3 glares in total, therefore it is only a dps increase if used in a large pull or at the start of a fight[which is only possible in dungeons or 24mans] or if you prepare it during downtime)
>>738183104>Why do you even contribute to this discussion if your frame of reference is a piece of content that can be done entirely without mitigation?Savage is content that can be done without mitigation?Anyway this post is a perfect example of the dogshit job design that they're hopefully moving away from in 8.0. If the button is only rewarding in high-end raids then it's bloat. Evolved job design is making Sheltron a fun button for the 95% of players who don't do on-patch ultimate rather than designing it just for the most unemployed raidtrannies.
>this will allow the devs to add more complexity to the jobsThis argument has been used everytime the jobs got dumbed down and the jobs never got more complex.
One worry with new WHM is that it has no DoT so GCD uptime will be even more important. Not very beginner-friendly unlike the rest of the job's design.
>>738183827>This argument has been used everytime the jobs got dumbed downno? for the past 5+ years people have been complaining about jobs getting dumbed down and new buttons literally just being finishers
>>738183827Their job design philosophy has been rotten for the past decade. Whether you like it or not the only solution is to burn the whole thing down and start over.
MNKbros, are we mentally prepared for yet another round of job rework?
>>738183879The fuck are you even saying retard? Do you think pressing dia and then afking for 30 seconds is any kind of meaningful contribution?
>>738183951What are they gonna do to Monk? Bring back riddles as stances?
>>738183951Why wouldn't I be? MNK gets reworked every expac. I was expecting it before I knew anything about evolved mode.
>>738183104>I do ultimatesOpinions discarded, go outside loser instead of trying to convince people that them trying to make jobs fun again is somehow a bad thing.
>do new content>final part of alliance raid still glazing tacos perfectly since the start of it>still random flavor text in MSQ saying tural was such a diverse place>thancred mention its rich culture by mentioning a tribe worshiping a giant sea snake or some bs, like it was a new thingbitch we had fucking leviathani can't wait for everyone to say they never been in a place that cold once reaching evercold
>>738173949>MMORPGs never fundamentally change and therefore can't ever fix fundamental problemsTook you a while to figure out
>>738184214>>final part of alliance raid still glazing tacos perfectly since the start of itThe fact they put in Shinryu only to fuse him to Gulool and then handwave his existence in a sentence to go back to HAHA TACOS is insulting on a cosmic level.
>>738180569I played WHM since heavensward and I hate how SE decided that my class has to be the dedicated retard class that solely exists so that dumb people can play healer too. There is genuinely nothing interesting about white mage anymore
>>738184085Current mnk barely has any buttons to prune, so I think it will mostly depend on whether they want to go all in on blitz or positionals. Mnk has more potential for wacky shit than a lot of jobs due to how many changes its gone through since ARR. Its also got a fairly small playerbase so even if its shit there won't be many complaints.
>>738184540> SE decided that my class has to be the dedicated retard class that solely exists so that dumb people can play healer tooSorry, friend. It was specifically designed for me. I am that retard.
>>738184540But that's what its always been. If you wanted a big brain class you played AST and if you wanted to pretend you had a big brain you played SCH.
>bard gets to pick between 3 new “buffs”>except 2 of them are just healsThe same exact thing happened to astrologian going into DT. I am dreading what they will do to AST this expac
>>738184540>the dedicated retard class that solely exists so that dumb people can play healer tooThat's what white mage was from the very start.
>>738184540there has never been a time where whm wasn't the easiest healer
>>738183951I'm scared that they will combine the main combo actions. MNK is one of the few which deserves to keep them split, and the current combo system is fun. Optimistically I want faster GCDs and more positionals. My crazy idea is a dropkick that you can only use while jumping.
>>738185032They can combine then into 3 buttons without losing anything, one for each stance.
>>738185145So you just press 123123123123? That's very boring. I play MNK to get away from that on every other job.
FFXIV is really intriguing because it has /v/ threads where people will scream about and rail against trannies 24/7 only to be set off by a small slight and have an emotional breakdown like a tranny where they get really snarky and all-caps passively aggressively greentext post for 100+ posts.
>>738184931It was, for short period when glare cast time was still 2.5s.
Bakool Ja Ja deserved better.
>>738176747>my wife is fucking deadthat's.... great....
>>738185270The only difference compared to now is that you hold shift for half of your 123s. I'll gladly take 123 with positionals over the current stand still except for every 9th gcd.
>>738185270I recall mnk being like 123, shift 123, 123, shift 123 with some CD's in between back in SB... did that change?
>>738173949WHM has always been the retard job for retards since ARR there's nothing to fix there so it was a bad example to showcase. We need to see SCH and AST. If they're getting rid of 2min meta AST needs a more engaging card mechanic that it does far more than every 2min and give SCH dots back and get rid of the contradictory shit in its kit, seraphism is gay. While they're at it they should make SGE the dps healer. "We want healers to gcd heal" works for WHM because it's the job identity but isn't gonna work for everything or combat the homogenization issue when the entire slate of content prior to 8.0 is not built around that and adding serious gcd healing requirements to normal dungeons, ex trials, alliance raids makes the content too hard for the people they dumbed the jobs down for in the first place.
>>738185521No. MNK's core rotation has never changed since ARR aside from DK spam and the start of DT, both of which were unintentional and patched out.
>>738185512>>738185521i use CTRL instead of shift.
>>738184540it was the retard job in ARR tho. Then SB came out and RDM was the retard job. Then the homgenization of ShB/EW came and all jobs became retard jobs
>>738183768already confirmed to be new jobs and not older FF jobs
>>738173949Maybe you should stop playing the babybitch job, healsissy.
>>738184540that's pretty much how it's always been, and don't pretend cleric stance did anything but annoy tanks and pressure WHM into fucking upt.WHM since heavensward too
>>738184025If your damage is all on Glare then missing 1/10 Glares is a 10% dps loss.If your damage is on Dia as well, then missing 1/10 Glares is a smaller dps loss.Healers were given DoTs so that they could GCD heal (or panic and move) without being punished so harshly for doing so.Bad players tend to have shitty GCD uptime (even with instant casts) but you could tell them to "just keep your DoT up at least" and they'd not be griefing too badly. So the dps gulf between good and bad healers will grow even more, contrary to the further simplification of WHM as the dedicated girlfriend job.
>>738176747Don't do that... don't give me hope
>>738185358Yes I agree, /v/ is a single person
>>738185407It still wasn't. It barely had any ogcds so it didn't need to weave anything. Pressing glare was all you needed. If you needed to heal you used a lily and used that to weave.
Bring back greased lightning.
>>738185771Hey, you're doing the thing.
>>738185727and every healer used cleric stance so that wasn't even a WHM thing.
Healing balance is impossible, if they nerf ogcds then healing for retards will be too hard. If they leave ogcds be then 2 healers coordinating can heal by barely using gcds. What is the solution to this, if they make healing hard then it will be too hard for pf people who don't even think about their cohealer.
>>738185737I guarantee the average whm is losing more than a single glare's worth of potency right now by not keeping proper dia uptime.
>>738173949WHM is unironically a difficult one to judge right now, because all they said about it is that they wanna design it around the expectation that you're actually a HEALER.And much of that isn't going to boil down to design, but hinge greatly on outgoing damage.It's great they want healers to heal, but there needs to be something to heal, so we won't know if their new design is any better until we've seen it in an Evercold combat situation.
>>738185778Positioning still mattered a bit even with slide casting as you wanted as many glares as possible.
>>738176747Female troon players in SHAMBLES
>>738185896>Positioning still mattered a bitdawg you need to get your head out of your ass, this is every job in the entire game.
Whelp. Here I go again, back into Delebrum Reginae to get timeworns and hopefully notes for the mount. Just the shittiest instance in the entire game coming through.
>>738176747BASED. We LOVE /ourwife/ Sphene here!
>>738185959don't let bozjerfags hear that
>>738186003I love everything about bozja outside of DR. I loathe going into it. I hate the mechanics. I hate the bosses. I hate the amount of time it takes.
>>738185896EVERY JOB NEEDS TO POSITION AND EVERY DoM NEEDED TO SLIDECASTDo whms really not play any other job in the game?
>Be me>Evolved Dragoon player>Do my entire combo the moment it becomes available because 2-min meta is dead>As soon as I push Sky High, whip my phone out and look at dragon women with HUGE tits>By the time I've landed already satisfied>Can do this with impunity because based CBU3 opted to give me 90% damage reduction while in the air>Look across the arena and see my fellow Dragoon stuck in Rebloat Mode, holding all his "CDs" for a burst window that'll never comeThe future is bright.
>>738179185Forcing sphene to dress like this and do her queenly duties while everyone watches
>>738186105Yep.... Based.
>>738186105>dragon women with HUGE titsNo such thing in FFXIV
>>738186103I was comparing it to other healers back in ShB you retard. Other 2 healers had 1.5s cast time while whm had it at 2.5s. Surely you can comprehend the difference.
>>738186105>and look at dragon women with HUGE titsferal ones with tits pasted on, anthropmorphic ones, or kemonomimi?I await your answer, fellow Dragooner.
>>738186105>Do my entire combo the moment it becomes available because 2-min meta is dead? you did this anyways because rotations lined up with 2 minutes perfectly 98% of the time and everyone cd's matched with it. 2 minutes existing never stopped you from doing your combos on cd, the boring part was that you did fuck all outside of it.
>>738186105A true dragooner if I've ever seen one
>>738186226Yes.
>>738173949Are there ANY fucking male coded healer gearsIt's all girl shit for troons and AGPs fucking hell
>>738186306And that will still be the case now.
>>738186446>playing a healer in an MMOyou have to be a faggot or an agp
>>738186446ShB ast af was made specifically for Urianger and looks like shit on girls.
>>738185853That's what I never understood about the people who don't like FFXIV healers dealing damage and just want healers to press gcd heals more, those same people would be even worse at healing if they had to do that. I played during ARR and HW and you did have to use more gcd heals then just because we didn't have nearly as many ogcd options and alot of people sucked at it.I think it's ok for WHM to be pushed more into gcd healing over damage casts since that's more or less always been it's identity but I don't think it's should be applied to that way to the entire role. Doing that would be a continuation of what they've been doing since ShB of WHMifying all healers which is the opposite restoring job identity.
>f2p with all the requirements to unlock Zadnor already done except ShB 5.5 MSQWorld's stronkest F2P.
>>738186446You can wear any gear now in any job
I hope sage gets to keep their dots and scholar doesn't just to see the melty.
>>738185853>Healing balance is impossible, if they nerf ogcds then healing for retards will be too hardthere is less retards than there are normal people that don't say anything and just play the game. appeasing retards never works they will always be fucking retarded.
>>738186217holy larp you actualy don't play other jobs. SCH got 1.5s cast time on broil in Endwalker not ShB. AST was the only healer that had it and it had way more ogcds than WHM.
>>738186446Only PvP sets are male coded.
>>738186446Yes.
sex with lalas male and female
>>738186719>frilly dresses>male
>>738186719>frills are male coded
>>738186446If even thinking of your character in a dress makes you doubt your sexuality, it's already over - just cut your balls off and be done with it.
>>738186719>"Male coded">Based on the only female Judge Magister
>>738186446>Are there ANY fucking male coded healer gearsyou can wear anything from any job now, just fucking make something you uncreative fuck. if you wanted a cleric glam there are a plethora of armor pieces to choose from to do so
>>738186719Seeing this blue mage shit always makes me want to play this game.
>>738186446just make something with gear from any job/role?world is your oyster, homo
>>738185861They said the same shit about healers going into dawntrail. Its clear that the encounter design is the main problem but you’re never going to catch one of the brain dead players that can only ever do simon says and strict rotations admitting that.
>>738186571I'm a perma zadnor bozja resident until I have every achievement there, good to see people taking an interest to it.
>>738186869Unfortunately blue mage is a minigame and not a game class this time around.
>>738186869heh :^)
>>738186446Mistwake healer/any set is some of the best designs in the game in a long time. However I’m excited for 8.0 to move away from rags and tassels
>>738186446all three vanadiel healing sets, Yuweyawata, Mistic, and Mistwake healing sest, all three arcadion healing sets
>>738183951I just hope the devs give back mnk grease lightning aura.
>>738186924I ain't fucking done until I can bully non-F2Ps with a full set of augmented law's order.The question is WHICH set because Aiming is absolutely bombastic but Healing is so clean that even the original color scheme is strong.
Imagine the smell.
>>738187003>Yuweyawata healing>Third walk healingHealers have stolen Red Mages' shit two times in this expansion.
>>738187058I got the maiming one since dragoon, go off of your main job.
>>738186676Then it would be balancing with raiders in mind.
>>738186928>>738186934I don't play, or at least not yet (i'm thinggggin about it) but I just like the idea for some reason, I'm aware they aren't like in 11 which I played on xbox 360.
>>738187058>he will never know the kino of Law's Order Maiming on a Viper
>>738187182It's better to look at Blue Mage in XIV as a minigame rather than a job.It has its own set of stuff to do, its own way of playing, and it's not allowed to hang with the big boys, but it's allowed to pester the big boys on occasion by blowing up their FATEs. It's more of a side activity.The same will go for Beastmaster a few months from now.
>>738187059I wonder how many time she farts a stream
>>738187259Can you be blue mage in free trial
>>738187059This would be less disgusting if she wasn't so old by now.You think I'm just being a dick, but I'm serious. Look up her age. It stops being cute real fast once you take that into consideration.
>>738187314Yeah.
>>738187327I think she's 46 iirc
>>738187314I think so? It's Stormblood content, and it's not on the list of exceptions, so you should be able to.
>>738187314yesgood luck doing anything but leveling with it though
>>738183827More than anything they emphasized that its so they can do different shit with bosses so they don't have to just make easy fights where the boss stands still every 2 minutes and hard fights where the boss makes you solve a debuff puzzle every 2 minutes but then does nothing inbetweenRemains to be seen if fucking anything will actually change but that's what they've said
>>738187059God I wish I was that chair.....>>738187314it is and now that shadows is included in free trial, you can solo get it to max level with the leech trick in the tempest.
Action glam is probably the best thing they announcedhopefully it includes a bunch of action animations for shit like scourge or power slash that are no longer in the game. Anyway I hope DRK actually gets un-fucked by evolved because it has felt like utter shit to play since ShB
>>738183951>>738187052I really, REALLY hope they bring back building up greased lightning. Having to maintain my speed is really cool. I'm kind of whatever on the Blitz shit. It's fine, I guess. I'm definitely looking forward to Skill Glamours, because Elixir Field>Elixir Burst in every conceivable way.
>>738183951Current MNK could already go down to ~12 buttons with consolidating buttons and the removal of Riddle of Fire/Wind and Enlightenment What they do besides that remains to be seen but I'm gonna assume they'll just add an extra Blitz or two and call it a day
>>738187287What's funny is how farts will always make it through a mic even when you have a bunch of filters on.https://www.twitch.tv/calebhart42/clip/ChillyIronicAirGuitarCoolStoryBob-3ZwUDo-RRkHbE2_H
>>738187463I main dark knight too and honestly it feels pretty good in dawntrail. It got more love than any other job. Unlike reaper. Bloodspiller became those 3 unique skills which is esentially that one great sword skill from 11 where you like front flip strike at the end of it. (or if you're a mithra anyways)
>static needs one more clear of m12s this week and then there's no more raids until Feb (we already said we're prob not doing the ultimate)
Were only one of the post 7.0 dungeons a recolor of an old set? Hopefully the promise of a better budget means fewer recolors of old gear in general.
>>738179573second life fags should fuck off to, well, second life. I want to play an mmo
>>738173949sis they are EVOLVING the gamewe've NEVER seen anything like it in MMORPGsit will appeal to a WIDER audienceit's perfect for MOBILE DEVICESjust get excited and stop questioning things!
>>738187546>Unlike reaperWhat do you mean anon? They loved reaper so much they added a 2nd one to the game in DT.
>>738179467raids are like 5% of the gameplay
I wonder if yoship is secretly going to introduce a story skipper penalty for 8.0z there’s no reason not to.
>>738173949close enough, welcome back EoC
>>738187641xiv already has a mobile port THO
>>738187618Yeah. Underkeep is just lost allagan.
The hard truth nobody has realized yet and that most won't accept is that evolved is simply an excuse to prune buttons so that SE can release the game on Switch 2 in a last ditch attempt to milk an untapped market of retards.
>>738187464I always hated Elixir Field's animation but give me Howling Fist back
>>738187463Right now, I'd expect it to mainly be >lower level animations and versions of abilities>animations from removed abilities wherever it makes sense to be able to use them as a replacement animationDown the line, I can see them adding more and more replacement animations for stuff, though (including on the mogstation, unfortunately). I think they already teased that they might or could make stuff that replaces the teleport animation as well.
>>738187784Switch has the same number of buttons as every other controller
>>738187618Yeah. Underkeep (7.2) is a reuse. The only reuse.In Dawntrail, we got almost all unique patch dungeon glams, surprisingly. Disappointingly, none of them are dyeable.
I don't see how this isn't going to be a total disaster at launch with 21 jobs having two modes and introducing two more jobs on top of that. Should've just ripped the band-aid off at the start and get rid of Reborn immediately
>>738188156They'll nudge the raidfags towards the new shit by making Evolved like 2% strongerThe old mode is just there so they can fall back if they catastrophically fuck up
>>738187137no cause raiders are also retarded and want to streamline things for their own benefit. i'm saying this as an ultimate raider myself. it's akin to fighting game players who try to worm their way into the devs to get their character buffed
I really hope they'll just remove all the raid-wide buffs or at least a majority of them, leave the buffs to healers or something. I would really enjoy being able to play my own game with my own character where I get to decide when I want to pop my load and do the damage, just like in WoW. Having to line everything up perfectly and having to rely on others to not drift shit to be at your peak damage performance always felt wack
>>738173949PRESS THE FUCKING HEAL BUTTON YOU SLUT.
>>738188375>I really hope they'll just remove all the raid-wide buffs or at least a majority of themnigga they literally said that they are doing that in the live stream
>>738188375>just like in WoWNo one tell him
>>738188375>just like WoWcool. maybe you should go back.
XIV has never had good combat, this is because there is no variety.Class roles largely play the same and there is no way to diversify yourself from others. Every samurai plays the same as every other samurai.To fix this the game needs proper skill builds, gear customization, and more freedom in how to tackle bosses.Right now every samurai essentially will have the same gear, the same rotations, and fight bosses the same way. Yoshi-P has proven time and time again je is unable to remedy this.
>>738173949Is it wrong that I find potatoes attractive?
>>738187221Not until DT is F2P, though with the way you lot talk about it I probably wouldn't want to play it, even fer free!
>>738187546As someone who has played and mained DRK since Heavensward, DT was a step in the right direction but still has not fixed the primary issue with the class that it has had since ShBand that's the fact that it is still 1>2>3 with the least satisfying combo ender and delirium is still reskinned inner releaseand WAR still stole it's schtick as "the lifesteal tank"DRK's kit is also still all over the place, nothing lines up, Contrast this with GNB which is the single tank that feels the smoothest to play in the entire game (and released in the same expac that FUCKED OVER DRK)
>>738188384You don't pay my sub.
>>738188375go back blizztroon
I love femezen so much it's unreal
>>738188562>DRK's kit is also still all over the place, nothing lines upare you stupid
>>738188609She looks like she fucks her mount.
>>738188501there is nothing inherently wrong with this because the variety comes from the amount of classes in the game, and the fact you can level every class on the same characterthe problem imo is homogenization in XIV has lead different classes to end up playing the exact same
>>738188629That's because she does.
>>738182158She's hated in every other language. The voice has nothing to do with it. It just doesn't help.
>>738188629Femezen do be like that>>738188664Proof?
warbros...what will our gimmick be if we're no longer main tanks and drk will likely get the>more damage at lower healthshtick when we're supposed to be the angry berserkers?
>>738188501Back in ARR you had retards staying on base jobs for max level dungeons and people hitting literally 1 button on a 3 button class for 400 hoursThey give everyone literal glowing buttons telling you what to hit next because the second they even give someone an opportunity to do anything differently they make 3 to 23 other players lives miserable for the next hour in duty finder
>>738188723>warbros...what will our gimmick be if we're no longer main tanksanon no other tank heals like war does, thats been our gimmick for awhile
>>738188676There are plenty of people who hate her solely because of the voice. Her being a shit character has nothing to do with it.
>>738188676I feel bad for her seiyuu.That was her first big role and she was working for more than a decade.
>>738188676the voice makes it worse. you just know someone at SE thought this character would be widely hated while it was still in production and cast a troon just to dismiss criticism as *phobia and *ism
>>738187919Those buttons aren't as accessible, playing on a controller is already a mess and they know the average Switch owner wouldn't be able to keep up with 28+ individual skillsI'm not defending the current status quo or the 2 min buff meta, but anyone who thinks evolved will bring depth back to the gameplay in other areas is delusional. Their end goal here is to make the game as accessible as possible to as many people as possible even if that involves turning it into a mobile game.
>>738186924When is CLL active? Just the weekends?
>>738188456>>738188597I quit playing WoW over 7 years ago and I'm never going back to playing that game. I cherish the memories and how fun it was but the game I used to enjoy is fucking dead, so don't lump me with your usual tribalistic schizos trying to start shit, I'm just using it as a reference>>738188426I didn't know that, I didn't watch it. I'm just getting most of the info from the threads I visit occasionally
>>738188723Blue healer, same as always. Be sure to keep Nascent up on the PLD, he's using his defensive cd for damage.
>>738188932That's the joke. Its not.
>>738188882Not every seiyuu can make it big or have the celebrity status ;_;
>>738188501buildcraft is not combat
>>738188505NopeLalafell enjoyers are supreme high test gentlemen with full heads of hair and large penises, be proud
So how bad will the seething be when Zenos returns in Evercold?
>>738188975>Be sure to keep Nascent up on the PLD, he's using his defensive cd for damagethis is the party synergy i crave
Video game g/nerals belong on /v g/
>>738188932All of the time on aether
>>738189029I mean I completed it twice. Hell I even got Delubrum Reginae done twice, one for the story and then again for some fuckass weekly quest that I really wish existed before the first clear.Also this fairy is a 10/10 friend.
>>738189154>evading filtersPathetic
>>738173949ff14 is nothing more than a boomer nostalgia virtual theme park. do not play it. mmos are dead and gay and never coming back. stop wasting your time on garbage and do something else manchildren
>>738179328No, it's so fucking cool it's what really sold me on evolvedis it weird they did that but then also called PLD a main tank, yeah maybe, but it also makes intervention more than just a worse cover
>>738189230>do something else manchildrenhe says on the basket weaving image forum
>>738189230This. Think of how much money you could be making mr shekelberg if you spent that time working instead of wasting it on a fucking videogame.
i hope blm and drk get to sacrifice health for damage even more and make healies adjust
>>738189204Activity will pick up until next Occult is out, and then again towards the last couple of months before 8.0 is out.That's how I knocked out the 50x clears for CLL/Dalriada at end of EW. Then I did PFs for Delubrum, tried to get like 3-5 clears a day, then did only the weekly quest to get remainder gold coins.Fuck the 100x Forked Tower Blood clears though. Got a Fending +2 set, the TT card, and noped out.
>>738189230People really do this? Come to the anime and manga enthusiast site for autistic wizards and impotently whine about beloved JRPG mmos?
I saw some new "evolved" skillset posted on here, and it definitely looks like WHM is being gutted. Real shame, but I wouldn't be surprised by this dev team anymore. Hopefully it was a fake image.
>>738189410I hope off tanks are just buffed blue DPS with all of the benefits of more ho and next no management of buffs and nerfs
>>738189352dont forget mr unfunny poor attempt at irony poster, mr shekelberg loves your subscriptions and xpac money too. every second you arent playing ff14 you are literally giving shekelberg money for free and receiving nothing in return
>>738189183Very cute giraffe.
>>738183729It’s funny cause everyone forgot Dawntrail “split” healers to Pure/Barrier, and people have done two of the same fine.
>>738189536>everyone forgot Dawntrail “split” healers to Pure/Barrierthis split happened in endwalker when they made ast a pure healer
>>738189498Erm actually I'm giving mr toyota my money.
>>738189536magic melee and phys melee when
>>738189498The only ironic shitposts on this site are the ones pertaining to pretending to hate anime and JP media. It’s just that actual underage kids are too stupid to pick up unit and think it’s a sincere viewpoint
>>738189589Oh yeah, EW. Not DT.
>>738189536I think the problem is making only PLD main tank and everyone else off-tanksalso desu I think every tank should get the new parry gimmick, it will feel bad to have fights with that and only PLD gets to use it
>>738189716the new tank is also a main tank
>>738189651if XIV was based, Reaper and Ninja would be magic
>>738189183pov: it's penis inspection day
>WHMsissies lose againWhy are you still playing that job it's clear the devs want you to play literally anything else
>>738189118but high test makes you bald
>>738189825WHM is baby healerLike it always wasIdk why people get upset over it
Raiders are actually on suicide watch
>>738189716So you are saying you want to homogenize the tanks so they all play the same.
>>738190042The 1-2 of Warrior's combo means nothing. God these people are fucking retarded.
>>738190130>old Warrior
>>738190042Reminder that this faggot was cheering BLM being made easier for years.
>>738189894WHMs basically have a bigger ego than every other healer combined because WHM does slightly more damage. They push glare like their life depends on it, have 60% overheal on afflatus so it's functionally doing nothing and then try to take as much credit as they can when in reality, the barrier healer is carrying and ensuring the party doesn't implode.Their only utility is pure healing throughput, which is to say they have no utility at all.
>>738184540I've mained WHM since 2.0 and it's always been the babby healer job. Healing in general was just more difficult across the board in ARR/HW, they've all gotten piss easy since SB
how do you heal in a controller? like there is an specific button to select the tank?
>>738190289press down on the dpad nigga
>>738190042I like how he acts like the only way for the jobs to have skill expression is to bloat the gcd combos meanwhile the evolved jobs shown so far has more agency and room for skill expression than their reborn counterparts while having less buttons
>>738190184why lie?
>>738188705>Proof?Woman of fair skin.
>>738180196I use full JP voices and she was still a shit character.
>>738188705why does dragon blood turn people into dragons anyways? when will middy wake up?
>>738190184If CBU3 has balls they'll give Evolved BLM 7-second cast time Flare, Freeze, and Burst.
Blowing up the two minute meta means that bosses likely won't have designated down time periods anymore.
i haven't played since heavensward. how much content would there be to do now? i'm assuming the old expansion content still has a purpose?
>>738190340No u
>>738176747god i hope so, i have a wet dream where i marry alisaie and have 3 babies
>>738190372Still poor writtenBut not quite as annoying in my experience.Dare I say kinda cute sounding
>accidentally put all my good accessories in the glamour dresser outfits>ilvl dropped into the 500s>retainers still using stormblood gearI guess its time to grind trusts out of shadowbringers. I can't even get into the level 99 dungeon because mr 3d printer won't make me gear yet.
I'm just so happy that enough people chimped out over DT that they ACTUALLY course-corrected. Even having the CEO come on stage and say how much they're going to invest in the game speaks volumes. They realized they were killing their golden goose and changed things before going over the edge. When does that EVER happen in modern game dev?
>>738188629what's the bestiality status on Eorzea? half of the people are animal people already and half of the animals talk
>>738190325huh? isn't that button designed for another skill? like the whole layout in a pad is using the all dpad and front buttons for skills
>>738190540mhiggers marry non mhiggers. bestiality like that should be a death sentence.
>>738190376Dragons are like sleepy viltrumites. Their dna is stronger than yours and will beat it up. And somehow that dragon blood spread to every player character throughout 1000 years of history, despite ishgard being isolationist and the people who ate ratotskr being nobles.
>>738178850>burning american flagswtf i love llamatyi now
>>738190042Maybe if this faggot wanted to try and make an actual point he'd learn how to properly label his example so it doesn't look like a route map for a train station next to an inner city school
>>738190540How many female Elezen do you see on average when walking around?
>>738190535I'm already starting to see the effects of itSeeing "1st time playing XIV" videos coming out againAnd I been looking at Steam and this past weekend had the highest 24-hour peak in the past year
>>738190540Of eorzea? Gridanians will fuck forest critters if the elementals tell them to.Of aetheirys? Theres a tribe of xaela that marries their horses.
>>738190664why are troonra players still trying to gaslight people?
>>738183795>afflatus misery potency is 3 glares in totalit's actually 4 glares in total, which makes it dps-neutral (3 solace/raptures + 1 glare's worth of dps). Misery is actually a dps increase during burst windows, as you can fit in extra glares worth of dps at the end of the window if you time things correctly
People are saying that Enuo is voiced by Ben Starr, I honestly don't recognize his voice.
>>738190704it also helps the release of shadowbringers for the free trial
>>738190567Gamepads use the triggers as modifiers for hotbars, on their own the dpad and face buttons have different functions
>>738190523No cap her only good part was when her daddy died and she got pissed in jp. I cant even imagine how the dude did that scene.
>>738190042bro got that dementia handwriting
>>738190042>metaslave crying about lack of variety
>>738186214>No such thing in FFXIVbro forgot about Tiamat
>>738190535Hesitant optimism, anon. Don't think they've genuinely course-corrected until 8.0 is out and we actually see some of this shit implemented proper, especially "Evolved" mode. I have a feeling it's not gonna be what it's cracked up to be, just like the sad excuse of an implementation of the button replacements that only replaced a couple meaningless skills(like PLD Fight or Flight changing to Goring Blade, fuckin worthless), or how their Chat Bubbles are worse than the Mod one was. Every change they've made, including official versions of mods, has been lazier and worse every single time. The only reason I'm hopium'ing in the slightest is because 7.5's story did two things:A) Other than using Tural as an example of working together for the Garleans, DT is largely treated as if it never happened or was very minor, at best.B) When we found out shit was about to go south on the Moon, we didn't fucking talk to 3 locals to see if they noticed anything about the moon before speaking to Wuk lamat then talking to 3 loporrits before speaking with wuk lamat twice and then, while all these void portals are pouring demons into the world/moon, we didn't fucking go on a full-zone escapade learning about local customs and Lalafell History. Though that might just be because it was a patch and not an Expansion story, we just fucking went and dealt with it IMMEDIATELY.
>>738190704It's also helping that WoW is shitting the bed again. It truly is ShB again.
>>738190704Shadowbringers in the free trial will hook tons of people if they haven't experienced that yet. The NA fanfest really fucking killed it, might have been the best NA fanfest they've ever had hoenstly.
>>738190535Imagine being daichi hiroi . Killing the goose wheb all the japs are on break.
>>738190540>Civilize race x Civilized raceNobody bats an eye, fully legal>Civilized x Beast tribeWill get you odd looks in Gridania, legal but frowned upon in Limsa, fully illegal in Ul'dah.
>>738186446Sage is the dedicated male-coded Healer job. The other 3 are objectively fem/troon-coded
>>738188156Because it's basically an expansion where they can beta test the new system while giving people the ability to always go back to old reliable.They had hoped that this would be enough for people to be normal about things, maybe give measured and rational feedback rather than fiery "YOU KILLED AND RUINED MY JOB I AM QUITTING ZIV FOREVER YOSHITPISS FUCK YOU" type shit.But they underestimated the community's ability and desire to engage in melodramatics for the sake of being loud.
>>738190630Part of the plot of Heavensward is that over the time period after the knights consumed Ratatoskr's eyes the "noble blood" had disseminated so thoroughly into the population of Ishgard that pretty much anyone with family from Coerthas had some, which is why consuming dragon blood turns them into dragon menAlso iirc Ishgard's isolationism is a relatively recent occurrence
>>738187314yes, the funny thing is you need DT to access beastmaster, even though it ONLY works in ARR zones. Seems like a pretty big oversight for SE
>>738188156you don't understand anon. The job action trailers are ONLY gonna be for the evolved version of the jobs. Reborn is officially legacy shit and will be ignored/phased out post-haste
>>738188156Reborn is literally just copypasting what's already there. Barely any actual dev work involved.
>>738188156No Yoship brought it up, it would be like star wars galaxies where lots of players quit just because they radically changed the game with no option to play like the old way, granted for SWG it was shit but Yoship is thinking ahead and doesn't want to get bombed by Balance Black Mages
>>738190385god I hope so man. I want them to give BLM some fuck off massive 10 second cast that rewards proper positioning and timing
>>738189204>feopostingBased. It's one of the great failures of Dawntrail that Pilgrim's Traverse didn't have any Feo Ul voicelines, not even as a few one-offs when you summon her. Dunno about the Jap VA, but they have the English one there voicing Shale anyway. Just have her break out the highlands twang for five or six lines.
>>738190658He doesn't have a point to make. He's saying doing combo b to maintain a buff ortherwise do combo a for damage isn't a rotation and is actually a meaningful tradeoff. Which is fucking retarded.
>>738188375>just like in WoW.The funny thing is that WoW is currently designing itself into a 2m meta.
>>738190832>Hesitant optimism, anonoh of course, always. I've been burned too many times to blindly huff hopium like I used to. Just seeing positive indicators, that's all
>>738190896Yeah but every player WoL Raen wasn't born in Eorzea yet still has enough dragon blood from ratotskr to be a dragoon. Same with viera and Hrothgar. At least the xaela have an excuse of multiple tribes traveled from the Azim Steppe to Ishgard and got genocided.
>>738190827have you seen Tiamat?is she OK?
>>738189230How about you worry about yourself and what you do and let me worry about what I do, nanny-kun?
>>738191079Didn't she go back to Meracydia?
why is every raider coming out of the woodwork to gaslight people into thinking aligning raid buffs and pressing 1-2-3 is the pinnacle of skill expression, league characters with only 4 buttons are harder to play than ever single ff job combined. byakuya's rekka in under night has more nuance than every single combo in ff14. do these people play any other game or is their entire life on ff14. like it takes 2 seconds from a purely game design perspective that jobs having a party buff is fucking atrocious, it centralizes the entire game around said buffs. jobs become that buff and nothing more, burst windows are cool, burst windows are not cool when that's all jobs ever care about which is literally the gameplay we have right now. and on top of that our rotations just auto time everything for us anyways
>>738190042sindalf has to be one of the most mentally raped raidbucks around
I lowkey kinda don't want to play ffxiv until evercold is out
>>738191139to gather her brood, yes. it has been a while and she hasn't shown up yet
>>738191153Because their shiny pink and gold numbers are what they base their entire self worth around because they have literally nothing else in their lives. Anything that threatens that is bad.
>>738191153Its exclusively so that they can bitch at everybody for playing viable non-meta jobs and being bad at the game.
>>738190397That's something they brought up as an example.Whether they actually do anything with it is a case of waiting and seeing.
>>738173949Don't care. Did not ask. Go back to your containment board in /vg/. Your mmo is filled with literal cheaters and afk bots.
>>738191187I'm not resubbing until about a week before it comes out. Really no reason to stay subbed unless you're an Ultimatefag.
>>738191153>why is every raider coming out of the woodwork to gaslight people into thinking aligning raid buffs and pressing 1-2-3 is the pinnacle of skill expressionBecause it's easy and rigid which their raidertism loves, without raid buffs and jobs with more fluid rotations they might have to actually think or worse, CASUALS will start actually playing high end stuff making the raiders even less special
>>738191069At this point in time we have three entire races that have pretty big jumps in logic for them to be in Eorzea to begin with, when the player is a Viera, Hrothgar, or Au Ra making the trip to a place that just got fucked up by the moon crashing on it to make their fortune the idea that they might have an ancestor who was a globetrotting elezen who developed a taste for scaly/furry/bunny-eared pussy is rather mundane
>>738191279>having to catch up on dawntrail during evercoldCouldn't be me, but if you already caught up then theres pretty much no content at all.
>>738191153>why is every raider coming out of the woodwork to gaslight people into thinking aligning raid buffs and pressing 1-2-3 is the pinnacle of skill expressionit's more about coordinating all that shit while also dealing with a fuckload of other mechanics
>>738191279I do wanna Beastmaster, but the rest of the game is kinda just there now meanwhile I know it's gonna be way better in EC so it feels like playing an old inferior version
>>738191280i don't understand how you can develop this mentality, ff14 raids are mostly about the spectacle. i didn't complete TEA cause i wanted to express my skill in a fucking tab target mmo, i just like the content because it's cool and awesome
>>738191153Evolved Jobs are going to make raiding easier on the player end since they no longer have to rely on synchronizing buffs to burn through bosses and it's now more based around individually knowing when to use your own big damage moves safely. This now means bosses will likely not just be glorified punching bags with pre-scripted up and down phases built to accomodate those burst windows, which many raiders have grown accustomed to.This in general means that raiding will become less 'elite', thereby damaging the pride of people who just view raiding as a status symbol.
>>738191153>why is every raider coming out of the woodwork to gaslight people into thinking aligning raid buffs and pressing 1-2-3 is the pinnacle of skill expression,raidtards are literally The Raped™They suck complete dick and spent years convincing themselves that following the same piano routine while a static leader (or plugin) told them how to resolve mechanic made them uniquely skilled and worthy of getting their dick suck. Now they have to reckon with the impending realization that they are glorified chimps following orders while regurgitating the same abilities in the same order every 2 minutes for like 8 to 10 minutes.They are losing their identity.
>>738191310It would honestly make a LOT more sense if Allagans ate Bahamut's eyes or something. Cause they at least colonized Othard.
>>738191354>it's more about coordinating all that shit while also dealing with a fuckload of other mechanicsthere is no coordination, anyone that tells you this is fucking lying. your rotation auto times your 2 minutes. if you need to hold there is always a designated spot where you hold to that never changes.
>>738191327I only unsubbed like three months ago so I'm caught up on everything through 7.4. I can't imagine 7.5 will be more than like a day's worth of content.
I dont know why WHM get called baby healer. Theyre all baby healers.
>>738191361You have to remember anon that these people don't actually have anything else going on in their lives, I'm not even sure Sindalf actually works, I know for a fact Sfia unironically got himself fired to play more ffxiv
>>738191252janny applications are two blocks down
>>738191354The most that coordination ever boils down to is "the boss is untargetable here/our samurai will have a melty if we make them burst during this mechanic so we're holding burst until afterwards"
>8 months until EC
>>738191023Damn, really? That's such a fucking horrible thing to hear, why would they even want to do that? Did they accidentally go too far in their blatant copying everything xiv-related without realizing that they're stealing something that sucks?
>>738188501Not every game needs to be a spreadsheet simulator where we pretend your play an entirely different thing because you use a ring that gives you 1% more Penis Sucking Per Second.If it serves your penis better, just look at jobs as specs or something.
>>738191404>They are losing their identity.>Meanwhile Jobs are regaining their identity
>>738191512It's actually not that bad of a gap from first Fanfest until release. The last couple were like an entire year if I recall.
>>738191518I have no idea why they're doing it, but it's cosmic comedy. I saw a lot of wailing about "my class/spec hits like a pool noodle until the designated time where all the buffs are up and running" and chuckled
rip evercold if gta 6 is delayed again
she's easily the best side character in DT and deserves to join the scions and be a part of future expansions
>>738191580Helps that there's also a fanfest and two patches between.The biggest and most grueling wait will be 7.56 (mainly for BST) and then the third fanfest.
>>738191153So what do you propose? Every time jobs got changed they got dumbed down even more, why do you think it's going to be different this time. It's people still grasping for something.
>>738191630best case scenario would be GTA 6 releasing the same day as EC. It would mean all the tourists and bandwagoners would fuck off and leave the rest of us in peace
>>738191632we have enough elezen scions
>>738191718Urianger doesn't count
>>738191630Not really the same audience and 2K is reportedly treating their devs as slaves working them for damn near 13h a day shifts just to get it done asap because their whole company relies on it
>>738173949I'm looking for a mongol or nomadic type of glam for my melee jobs if anyone has a suggestion
>>738191630They're insisting there will be no more delays, but who fucking knows. I feel like GTA6 isn't going to be nearly as well received as people might be expecting.
the more raiders that get disenfranchised and quit the game the better
>>738191632We really don't need more characters like her in scions
>AlphinaudI sleepGive me WoL, Urianger, Thancred and Estinien as the group
>>738191718False. Eorzea and by extension Etheirys and all shards are rightful Elezen clay.
>>738173949No, but you are fucking retarded.
>>738191778Gonna have to combine warrior artifact gear with the actual sets from the steppe. And other stormblood sets as well.
>>738191718>the Scions are literally all Elezen, Miqote, and Lalafell with one token Hyur plus whatever your WOL isHow the fuck are there no lizard Scions they're the second most played race
>>738191687the evolved jobs they showed right now (besides whm cause they said whm is suppose to be easy) would be harder to play perfectly in than the jobs we are currently playing. there is no room for skill in the current design.
>>738173949get fucked healsissy
>>738191605Holy fucking shit dude what a tragedy. And when you think about it, it actually get seven worse. WoW devs have always been notorious for their kinda shit balancing. It's hard to blame them considering just how many DPS specs there are in the game so its definitely a hard job to do, but at the same time, it's also kinda hard to defend them considering the fact that there's been patches were a difference between one DPS spec and another could go over 30-35%, which is actually crazy. So again, considering this and their somewhat bad history of balancing things, I dread to think what's gonna happen if you combine this and slap additional raidwide buffs going on at the same time if they couldn't even handle individual player classes
>>738191814better him than her retarded sister
>>738191814The worst part is that Alphinaud nowadays means Alisae too. They go everywhere as a pair now.
>>738191632We're getting Hoary Boulder as our Tank Bro trust.
>>738191814Endwalker boys party is great but Heavensward type party means Ryne has to replace Ysayle.
>>738191872>How the fuck are there no lizard Scions they're the second most played racethe only one would would realistically join is too busy gooning to Hien
>>738191252Janitor applications are closed.
>>738191605>I have no idea why they're doing itbecause ff14 does (did) it, blizzard has been copying 14 for awhile now but doesn't really understand why it does the things that it does.
>>738191891I'll never forget the coping of Alisaiefags trying to hype her up on this as if Zeno didn't swat her away like a fly.
>>738191386Until they go back and rework encounters to meet current standards.
>>738191779>I feel like GTA6 isn't going to be nearly as well received as people might be expecting.That would be hilarious. It carries so much hype and so many inflated expectations it makes pre-release No Man's Sky look like a baby.
>>738191886and the worst part is that you can’t really change jobs like on ff14, so if you get nerfed to the ground you are fuck.
I’m new to this game. I like this game. I am enjoying this game. Thanks for reading my thoughts on this game.
>>738191978ok why was Zenos like 15 feet tall? Was that ever explained?
>>738190535>studio no longer has other projects>"we're giving the team more money"It's just folding the FF16 and remaster teams back into FF14. Square Enix has been horrifically mismanaged since the merger. This will not randomly change today.
>>738192025same anon
>>738192018wait really? I've never played wow before, you're telling me you have to make a new character for each class?
the wait isn't too bad except for that one part
>>738192030ancient genes I suppose, Varis was even taller.
>>738192030Garleans are naturally tall, Zenos is a physical freak even among them due to being royalty and getting the best meals, and he absolutely would have jumped for whatever unnatural enhancements and supplements he could take.The man's a freak of nature.
>I should unlock the shb custom deliveries>firmament is full for the past 15mThe fuck?
>>738192078yup, you pick your class at character creation and you ride and die with it
>>738192052>It's just folding the FF16 and remaster teams back into FF14even that is encouraging news. They could've easily had them fuck off to make the next Forspoken or some useless shit like that
>>738192078Yeah, but to wow's "credit" (I personally hate it but whatever) you can make a new character and rush to the endgame in less than a day or so.
>>738192135kek that's retarded
>>738191978Still not as funny as him casting Cattus Deletus and removing Yshtola from the expansion entirely.>>738192080That's the part around when I'll be coming back.
>>738192071Although I am new to this game, I recognize this character from this game. I believe that is the herbalist guild master in this game. Do you have romantic aspirations with her…
this was the best scene in SB and it's not close
>>738191814Give me Y’shtola/sphene/uriangier/estinien My party my nakama
>>738192220yes anon...
>>738192030Garleans are big and he's a chad. He's also only like 7 1/2 feet tall. He looks bigger than he is because he's often around manlets.
>>738192112Their armors are also strength enhancing future tech mechanized combat suits as well
>>738192252She's 44 years old you sick fuck.
>>738192030he's literally just a freak
>>738192240>rebuffs all of his opponents with facts and logic in the first half>goes completely off the rails batshit insane and retarded not two minutes later
>>738192080Actually, looking at it, it's not too bad. It's a bit of dead air between 7.5 release and 7.51, but then there's content to keep people busy until 7.55 PLUS EU FanFest. Then 7.55 has relics and Occult Crescent North Horn, which even if it sucks, it has a normal version of the raid and a relic farm step to keep people busy. After that, it's a little more than a month until BST and part 2 of the MSQ, and then end of October for JP FanFest. After that, it's November, December, January.
>>738192306 out of 10!
>>738192135really hated that and learning about race/faction locked classes in WoWI don't want to make an alt>we're releasing a new evoker class. but you need to be a dragon furry to play as itlike fuck off that sounds so dumb
>>738191928we're going to tame halmarut with the cock of light and have her join the scions. then we get both an au'ra AND an ascian rep in the scions.
>>738192080That's barely over a month
>>738192252You have my blessing anonymous. Go forth and multiply like the trees and flowers of the forest…
>>738191605Wowfags ITT is this true? I thought you guys don't really have a bunch of group buffs other than bloodlust or whatever it's called.
>>738192376it's a recent thing, they are just trying to copy ff14 as much as possible in every possible way without thinking about whats actually good or bad in ff14
>>738192130You’re not on your home server?
>>738192271Zenos is notably up there with the big boys like Garland, Exdeath, and Golbez.
>>738191873There is no fucking world where new DRG is harder to play than current DRG. You are delusional. No amount of encounter design will change that. The three roles shown featured:>DRG, where you press 11111 and then burst>PLD, where you press TBN to 'parry' with an innate 2.5s netcode delay and suffer the exact same issues as current DRK with TBN>WHM with no cast times on damage spellsAll three of these jobs are going to be easier to play than their current forms in all raid content. The game has only simplified and dumbed down jobs since Shadowbringers. The 'more varied' mechanics that you are requesting is just going to be what WoW does: where there are a lot more random AoEs that you have to move out of before they go off.
I miss her bros...
>>738192018Yeah lmao, I actually remember people in my guild getting benched because their classes got nerfed, without the possibility of re-rolling to another class because of the gear and the character power grind related to different systems. They just preferred to take someone else in their place, that was so fucked
>>738192376Yes. The 2nd reply to that guy was saying the same thing. >>738188452
>>738192430>they are just trying to copy ff14 as much as possiblewhy?they're a 30 year old established game why are they going so low as to copy a game, that initially started out as a copy of their own game? That's shameful to the highest degree
>>738192451?Sephiroth's sword going off screenIf I wasn't familiar with the source material I would think this is some kind of parody
Another one to bump limitWhat will they say when they realize the 'janny bias' doesn't exist?
>>738192080“This motherfucker” you highlighted is literally the same days as the first “fine”.
>>738189536Pure healer heals hp, barrier healer prevents damage, that makes sense. Main tank tanks boss, what does off tank do? Will every boss fight have constant adds?
>>738192515i can't believe /v/ actually discussed videogames for one thread
>>738192515Janny has deleted threads that were past bump limit and sitting on page 8 before.
>>738192318>oh fuck he's making too much sense, people might agree with them>*pulls emergency comically evil turboHitler lever*
>>738192458you are genuinely not gonna survive 8.0 it's crazy. enjoy the rest of dawntrail where your skill is doing the same rotation that auto times everything for you for 10 minutes
>>738173949You're completely right anon. It's not fixing anything. It's only looking to accommodate new Switch players. It doesn't really resolve any of the long-standing issues with the game that cause boredom in the first place.
>>738192458>>PLD, where you press TBN to 'parry' with an innate 2.5s netcode delay and suffer the exact same issues as current DRK with TBNIt's the same as current short CDs the other tanks have, where it's piss easy to hit the 4 second window. The problem with TBN is that if you outmitigate or outgear something it won't pop.
>>738192568Oh no! There's a literal bot posting template threads on cooldown regardless! Not my lost, end of thread discussions!
>>738192537Main tanks get counterattacks. Off tanks get damage down debuffs.
>>738192512because contrary to popular belief, ff14 is a very popular game and wow's direct competitor.
>>738192537based on the description, spamming reprisal equivalents and countering raidwides
>>738192240Nah, the best SB scene was either the GSM final quest or the scene where Nanamo releases Raubahn from service.
>>738192575It wasn't even a moral thing, he was just fucking retarded. How in the goddamn FUCK was he planning to survive like seven more Calamities?
>>738192514Sephiroth has basically become a parody of his old self. That new dissidia gacha has him wearing a jacket with snakeskin.
>>738192512because all the people that actually care and have some vision of the game left and now you have your typical salary man and manager that just want to suck it up as much as he can to get promoted, WoW have become a “product” and no a passion project anymore.
>>738192430Do you have any examples of this in WoW context for those of us who've either been out of it for too long or never played it in the first place?
>>738192601You act like the new job mode was the only thing they announced
>>738192686Not Sylus enough.
>>738192537I'm pretty sure the intent for the split is MT manages boss aggro and positioning, OT handles mitigating the bosses big attacks for the party. They had a slide up during the presentation for it but i don't have it saved
>>738192537Main tank has a counter attack so they NEED to take damage or they'll cry about MUH PARSE, off tank doesn't have one so they can do whatever they do now.
>>738192318>Goes on and on about hwo primitive the Eorzeans are >While they're all showing massive recent progress without the need for a dictator>Then proceeds to pull out the "WELL THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO FIGHT THE ASCIANS!" Card>While sitting across from the guy who's literally perma-killed Ascians himself
>>738192458>There is no fucking world where new DRG is harder to play than current DRG. You are delusional. No amount of encounter design will change that. The three roles shown featured:motherfucker Evolved DRG looks way more active than current DRG.Current DRG is literallyOpener -> 30s, High Jump, Mirage Dive ->60s, Lance Charge, Geirskogul, Nastrond, Stardiver, land a Heavens' Thrust or Drakesbane with Life Surge -> 90s, High Jump, Mirage Dive -> 120s, Re-opener/burstRinse and repeat. Only thing that changes is Wyrmwind Thrust every time you do your samey two combos properly twice.
>>738192458Current dragoon is not fucking hard and I don't know why you're trying to meme that it is.And WHM doesn't have cast times on damage spells because healing is becoming much more commitment heavy because the job doesn't have 56 fucking instant cast heals anymore. Just that fact is going to filter more than half of the people who are going to try it.
>>738192734guys don't talk like that
>>738192701you can look up the rotation of a lot of classes and you'll see they revolve around a 2 minute cooldown, combustion for fire mage as an example.
>>738192461We've completely ignored Ala Mhigo being a puppet colony of Ul'dah and dealing with undoing garlean influence since we found out Garlemald killed itself
if lahabrea loved athena, how did he merge with Igeyorhm at the end of HW?
>>738192512I'm not as surprised about them trying to do FFXIV'S MSQ (fully failing in the process, of course), because that's just another thing they can do for WoW that didn't exist before. But fucking over the classes as they are to drive them into a 2m meta just as XIV (thankfully) seeks to move away from it is comedic.
>>738192660My brother in christ, paladin has both Reprisal and Passage of Arms. He also can counter raidwides.
I can't wait for the fighting over who gets the left or right positional during a mechanic.
>>738192873If he loved her he wouldn't have tried to kill her.
>>738192869Mhiggers need a boot on their neck to prevent them from chimping out. We just exchanged the Garlean boot for the Lalafells
>>738192515I know your heart is torn to shreds reading this, but this is actually how it's supposed to be.
>>738192713All of the other things they announce exclusively exist to make players login less. >Stacking two weeks worth of dailies means they don't need to log in daily.>You don't need to gear other characters if you aren't raiding due to ilvl transfer(still need to gear up if you want to raid though lmfao)>But AGAIN since Raiding accounts for the vast minority of players in the game, this will only make people play less.>There will be LESS SKILLS for jobs to learn while leveling. Virtually 20 skills in 110 levels holy kekmao.>Jobs will be actually more boring in reborn mode because rotations are automatic and shorter. Fights are about to get even more yawning than before>Worse is these new job kits are actual dogwater and don't give any jobs actual identity meanwhile tanks got raped too.It's just funny, I guess
>>738192752It's even funnier because the Garlean Empire and their tech advantage only exists due to the manipulation of very Ascians he claims the empire is the only chance at destroying, and he's completely aware of this fact due to his grandpa having an entire warehouse of clone bodies he uses to mock him over this fact
>>738192873Iggy wore a mask so Lahabrea just pretended she was Athena
>>738191978priceless
>>738192130Is that a Peter Pan reference?
>>738192860Does this also include rigidly having to overlap with group buffs from other members, or is this more of a singular players have their own rotation rely heavily on 2m self buffs?
>>738192973I for one am happy Tomestones are dying off to make way for the Challenge Log EX. Reward me more for crafting and fishing please.
>>738192130feo ul rape
>>738190042I already use XIVcombo. DESU, if they removed heavy swing and main, I wouldn't even care. Remove those buttons and then give me other buttons that do something else.
>>738192343eye bigger than her nose ffs
>>738192973>Worse is these new job kits are actual dogwater and don't give any jobs actual identity meanwhile tanks got raped too.Gaped and raped WARcuck diaries.
>>738192973>Jobs will be actually more boring in reborn mode because rotations are automatic and shorter. Fights are about to get even more yawning than beforeso fun for you is just pressing bottoms ?
>>738192973>stackingThat's a good thing.>don't need to gearThat's also a good thing and we don't know the specific anyways. It's likely a way for you to do stuff up to EX at best.>raiding accounts Worthless trash>less skills, 20 in 110It's actually 20 in 50, dumbass.>more boringDamn, you sure know how this stuff we haven't actually seen works. Mind giving us sone EC info since you're obviously an employee?>new kits are dogwaterWrong.
She will not be forgotten.
>>738193097And thats a cute thing!
>>738191153my boy xeno isn't and that's why he's based
>>738193141>Snow literally dressed like a hobo/school shooter>he was meant to be the badass cool hero protagonists guyI still can't get over this shit
>>738192842No job in this game is hard. Pretending that they'll become harder when you reduce the literal only metric of skill in the game, pressing the buttons in the order they light up in is dumb. You will now do the exact same thing you currently do, but instead of pressing 12 buttons, you will press 3. I'm looking forward to Evolved because at least they're finally trying SOMETHING, instead of just doing another fucking finisher, but I lost all charitable interpretations of their job design after the ruthless lobotomies that have been sent out from SHB~DT. We lost MNK three times, BLM twice, old SCH, and SMN. Now they're proposing a massive rework where half the jobs get sundered again. The last time they did this we got Shadowbringers job design, which was fucking terrible compared to Stormblood. Why would I be excited for every role to get a Shadowbringers healer lobotomy?
>>738192030half giant. no really he's literally a half giant
>>738192461I miss Yda.
>>738193218Nojima is a retard.
>>738192973>There will be LESS SKILLS for jobs to learn while leveling. Virtually 20 skills in 110 levels holy kekmao.Lol?Now we're pretending like ability acquisition currently is great. The LARP is insane.
>>738192537My point is it hardly mattered, even for Savage/Ultimate. Xenosys babies are dooming too much for no reason
I FUCKING LOVE CASTING HOLY
>>738190042The whole reason autocombos make sense in the first place is that most jobs have no reason to ever not press the next button in a combo.Like, as SAM, if I press Gyofu, and then press Jinpu, pressing ANY other combo button besides Gekko is literally a misclick, with no advantages and a pure damage loss that sets my rotation back 3 GCDs. So in the end I have 6 buttons that exist for the sake of 3 combos that I'd never want to break for any reason.Now, if all 6 buttons are forced into a single button in evolved mode, and I have no control of when I use my positional combos or yukikaze combo, THAT would be bad, that would be a problem.
>>738193221>pressin da lite up buttons is skill expression ackchully remeber da shadowbarges!!!!!!!!Stick to reborn mode, Mr. Retard.
>>738193125Neither are fun anon. That's the problem. All rotations have been, are, and continue to be solo. Which is a retarded thing.
is he actually making an appeal to complexity in the year of our lord, Year 2 of the Seventh Astral Era?
>>738193297One of the biggest complaints about the game is that jobs feel completely fucking gimped if you roll any dungeon below like level 80 and now that problem is fixed. People complaining about this are fucking retarded.
Yeah, these evolved jobs look simplified and babby tier as fuck. I think I'm going back to WoW.
>>738193347same but unironically
>>738193297Who said it's great currently? The problem is that it is horrible and will continue to be bad. So what are these changes for?What is the point of the changes in the first place?(other than to accommodate new switch 2 players).
>>738192873he finally moved on after Ultima flopped in Praetorium and Igeyorhm FUCKS. Want proof? see the Thirteenth.
>>738193221>ShBShit started in SB bro. Cry harder.
>>738193413Exactly. It's one of the biggest boons for me for evolved because being scaled down to any job for a dungeon below like level 70 was excruciating. If you have more or less your full kit by 50, that'll make the earlier levels better for everyone. New players and old players going into scaled down content.
>>738193430>going back to WoWGood, fuck off and stay fucked of
>>738193363You know the only time it ever mattered?PotD 180 Behemoth to get its HP to near 15.1% as much as possible before timing a burst on its next long cast. I have a feeling the potency creep from culling raid buffs will make it matter less now.
>>738193460>Igeyorhm FUCKS. Want proof?She wears a red thong under her robes.
>>738193291>Zenos coming back from the dead AGAIN to be Loki.Basedbasedbasedbasedbasedbased
>>738193045i'm pretty sure it's all personal right now, but there is no rigidness about overlapping raid buffs in ff14, it's practically all automatic so nothing goes wrong. if a fight requires you too ever hold a 2 minute you just pick the next best spot and that will always be the spot every time. it's just funny that WoW has swapped to this design i mean, pally literally has an inner release now
>>738193494As bad as the DT MSQ was, it was nice to see all the tourists leave.
>>738193448>but controller Outside of monk, who's current iteration is junky on fucking keyboard too, controller has zero issues with doing anything in the current state. Reminder controller has easy access to 40 buttons or more.Stop being a brainless monkey trying to blame something when that something has NEVER been a problem.
>>738193430Okay lol.
>>738193297I ended up leveling MCH to 100 solely so I had something I could queue my dailies with that didn't want to make me want to kill myself if I got anything before level 70 on roulettes
>>738193045It's a player-only thing, and blizz has been balancing classes around burst windows or constant damage since forever. As probably the most egregious example. Legion (came out a decade ago) SP totally useless outside his StM window. The only raid-wide damage buff is blood lust and it is generally castable only once a fight and existed since vanilla.
>>738193616I leveled up MCH assuming I'd like it at least a bit.Genuinely ended up being bored out of my mind. The only thing I like about it is that one animation upgrade you get for your basic AoE at like lvl 85 or 90 or so where you pull out a shotgun and spray in front of you.
>>738193546hold up does Emet Selch's brats have shards? I mean, souls just kinda hop on bodies all the time, including babies so it's not like emet can spawn more unsundereds.wait could he and venat spawn more unsundereds? where do new souls come from?
>>738193336It made sense at least on paper. Main/off tanks don't even have that.
>>738193746Elidibus has already been reborn
>>738193430Bai bai!
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>>738193598I didn't blame controller. I blamed new Switch 2 users. It's ok being unable to read anon.Either way. Just get rid of rotation based design and designers will be forced to come up with actual multiplayer classes for people to play as with other humans.
>>738193746Emet and Lahabrea couldn't make more unsundered souls because the planet is what makes souls and it itself is sundered, but ancient genetics clearly cause some fuckery to happen to the kids because Varis and Zenos are fucktardedly huge and strong compared to normiesElidibus and Venat couldn't have kids because they're just aetherial constructs ejected from their respective primals and no longer living beings
>>738192973i can smell the felcleave coming from this post
>>738193746>wait could he and venat spawn more unsundereds?For there to be new unsundered, there need to be unsundered souls in the lifestream to inhabit new vessels. It isn't a case of two unsundered surviving the sundering, fucking, and so the kid is unsundered, because there's no unsundered souls left in the pool.However, with Zodiark gone, a lot of souls have gone back to the lifestream, plus Hades and Themis' souls have returned to the lifestream as well.
>>738193551how did you look at divine toll and think it looks even remotely like inner releasenothing in wow works like inner releasenothing in xiv is divine tollclean up your arguments little bro you could have picked literally any of the tens of 20% damage buff number go up and his brain went to a version of the game he played 10 years ago
please keep them away....
>>738193938it is quite literally inner release back when you could get 5 fell cleaves
Playing through the DRK storyline again. It really is one of the closest to a mainline “protagonist” story for the WoL isn’t it?
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>>738193916Considering how violent the aetherial sea is its likely that its going to keep souls at their appropriate fractional level for as long as its sundered. So WoL doesn't get to be 8/14ths past their current lifetime. And sundered ascians would have to collect their own shards every time thetheyy are killed and reincarnate, if they even bothered powering up their soul over just using their memories in the first place.
>xivvies try to gloat that wow is going "2 minute meta" just like xiv>are totally wrong and retarded and only end up shitting on xiv in the process
>>738194035the one from dragoon is really neat too
>>7381940699/14ths, sourcies are 1/14th normally + 7/14ths from 7 rejoinings, WoL is +1 from eating ardbert and graha is +1 from surviving an 8th rejoining
>>738194047my rimjob wives
>Evercold teaser already almost surpassed the Dawntrail trailer in a little over a weekKek the gsme really is saved isnt it
>>738194137You right I miscounted
>>738194175
>>738193828>Depending on soul mojo they get naturally instantly recycled or take a while>Densefags take a while because of plot armor or very strong memories or they're just built differently>Unsundered are in this category>As a soul is recycled their memories slowly fade away and they get ready for another round in this shithole of a world>Elidibus's death is literally: sealed and killed by the crystal tower>mind controlled by Athena for like 10 minutes>Instantly shot out of someone's vagina less than a minute after saying goodbye to the WoL for the 3rd time or whateverIt should be easy to track Elidibus because that baby probably screamed about Salvation and held up a sword before the umbilical cord was cut off.
I know yoshiP said they want to continue supporting FFXIV for years to come but I unironically think dev time is best served in making a new FF MMO11 is still going strong despite no new content in years, they should do the same thing as 11 did and then work on the next MMOPrimarily because working with the shitty fucking spaghetti code of XIV is not worth it. I would also like to see what they'd do for a new MMO, which I feel would take a page from FF16 and become an action game ala PSO2
>>738194137G'raha should be 17 because Source G'raha experienced 7 rejoinings and Exarch experienced 8.
>>738194216There will be no new FF MMO. MMOs are a dead genre that is on life support by constantly cannibalizing the everr dwindling playerbase from each other.
>>738194175did square finally bot the right video?
>>738188882I don't think seiyuus get judged much for how bad the writing was for their role, if the talent agency was happy with their performance that's all that matters
>>738194261Didn't Graha only absorb the memories of the other one and not his entire soul
The fuck is left supposed to be?
>>738194216Making a new MMO is too risky when seemingly 90% of the playerbase is only here for their MSQ comfort characters and attachment to their own character. Not to mention player housing and the like. People would be resistant to swap over.And no, it shouldnt be an action game, stop trying to make MMOs action games it fucking sucks. PSO2 only works because its entirely instanced, and modern MMOs already suffer from too much instanced content. People keep wanting souls combat in MMOs or something while souls combat literally doesnt even function in basic ass souls multiplayer already.
another victory for hopeunfortunately the cost of winning is having fence sitting 'doomers' who claimed to want the game to succeed and grifters subsisting on it
>>738194351All I know is that the exarch was still talking right up until the point of crystallization so I don't think he put his soul in the crystal fully if at all.
>>738194361sage?
the only thing i know about wow is that purple foot lady and imaging sucking her toes every time i pass the popsicle isle
>>738194351the blood crystal thing held both soul and memory.
>>738192869Making them a trade partner with the salt makes them less of a puppet than having to rely on outright handouts would
>>738194305yes
>>738194261I assume the merging works like a bitwise OR operand and only layers in the extra memories and soul stuff from the Exarch instead of making him 17/14ths of an ancient
>>738194440i like the blue toes around these parts
>>738192537>Will every boss fight have constant adds?God I hope
>>738194440I prefer the dragon that got raped for years to make mounts for the horde.
>>738194361>design new AF gear every expansion>its literally just the same gear as last time with some extra embroidery
>>738194361One of MNK, VPR, MCH, GNB, or SGE.
>>738194361if the new job is a hammer user, i fully intend on digging out the blacksmith sets
>>738194524wasn't that retconned because "rape is yucky" (yeah no shit, that's the point)
>>738194372ackshully it works in PSO2 because the combat's straight up client based. attacking and dodging play like you have 0 ping. if the game is lagging your damage numbers just rubberband or the enemies don't do anything for a whilei don't want FF19 to be a PSO2-like though. the game was a disaster in its own way
>>738194592I'm considering leveling Sage solely because I can finally wear my ALC AF
>>738194636no. it never was rape in the coomer sense people fetishize actually. Alexstraza was fucking her consorts to death to keep the dragon army up for Warcraft II.Technically Deathwing enslaved her.
Do the Primals concerts get uploaded anywhere?
>>738194702>Alexstraza was fucking her consorts to deathwasn't the point that she was being forced to breed with the black dragonflight to make mixed dragons?because her consort would've been another dragon
>>738194737it will take a few months but they do get posted on the official ffxiv channel
>>738193996divine toll does not give you 5 execution sentences or anythingi think nu-ret you wake of ashes from it? entirely unsure but it still isnt the sameyou're also not getting auto dh/crits every press
>>738194757nah, the weird dragons were experimented on, not crossbred. many of the supersoldier dragon jobbers were originally reds but they were stolen from AlexShe was fucking other reds and yeah if that sounds incestuous is because it was.
>>738194216>he hasn't realized that they're ship of theseusing xiv
>>738194421tell your friends all about it
>>738194880>>738194421one minute apart
>>738194524going back in time to make sure it happens too
>>738190042This fag has always been a MASSIVE fag. Everything he's recommended and supported has been a detriment to the overall health of FF14. Everything he's wanted has always been super niche and supportive of fags like him who make up 5% of the player base.
>>738194910>the speedster who plays /v/ at 10x time
>>738194216MMOs are on their way outthere's never really gonna be a large-scale MMO release ever againAnd before anyone mentions it, the Riot MMO is vaporware and will never see the light of day
Legitimately wish the community could stay the size it is while also getting all the cool Evercold improvements.Unfortunately it's really neat changes and improvements AND it necessarily attracts new grifters and tourists in the process.ShB was a mistake.
>>738194880you're obviously the lala giving himself attention
'People' who only raid in this game, who only play Savage and Ultimate and the most degenerate fucking retards I've ever come across.They've had two expansions back to back cater almost exclusively to them in content and they're STILL moaning like little dickheads.It's no wonder the pivot FF14 is taking now, is to move away from them and open up options for more people to play and more options TO play. Raiders had everything their way and they still weren't happy so in YoshiP's own perspective, why even bother trying to please them?
>>738195117raid (advanced) sounds pretty cool
>>738195071Wrong, I'm just calling him out by reading and making sure to respond to every one of his posts
>>738194216MMOs are risky and expensiveyeah maybe YoshiP can supposedly strong arm Mr. AI CEO into giving them more money but not enough to get a new MMO and "abandon" the current cash flowbesides, if we did get a new one then I'd kind of want it to be turn based/ATB sort of like DQX or FFXI. Something that allows for actual character building and really unique classesand we would 100% never get that
Healers are supposed to be easy and WHM is intended to be the most basic of them all to get beginners into it.
>>738174549Isn't the whole point of Misery that it's a refund on GCDs spent on healing
>>738195223People are forgetting that the primary audience for healers is women. Of course its going to be easier to play.
