Why are weebs like this? So incensed that people like an RPG that isn't bogged down by the generic gameplay and writing tropes, overly long run time and boring gameplay loop, that they have to accuse anyone who likes Expedition 33 as being racist against the poor JRPG genre?
>>738179685The game is an ugly piece of shit with no white people in it and no titties. Fucking die
>>738179891seethe looneytroon
LOOK MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
>>738179902>looneytroonstop projecting
>>738179685What is the perfect for the "i hate rap but i like kanye west" crowd?
What kind of retards actually believes you MUST like ALL entries for a specific genre otherwise you're some sort of fraud? It's perfectly normal to think bad games are bad but good games are good and that genres have both bad and good entries.
>>738180049This isn't at all what the person in the picture is saying. You made up that argument entirely in your head.
>>738180093What is even the point then? What exactly is wrong with "I hate rap, but I like Eminem?" What is wrong with "I hate romcoms, but I like The Princess Bride?" Does the fact that it is liked by someone that normally hates that genre means the game is not really part of that genre or something? What in the fuck is he trying to get at other than some pathetic gatekeeping sekrit klub bullshit?
>>738180181The point of the OP is that Clair Obscur is a RPG for people who don't like RPGs. That's the point, in and of itself. It is not a premise made in service of another argumentYou don't seem in disagreement with the point, so... what's YOUR point? Do you just don't like his tone?
>>738180490>The point of the OP is that Clair Obscur is a RPG for people who don't like RPGs.No, it's not. That's not how this shit works.The way it works is if you're a fan of a specific genre you're generally pretty prepared to suck up mediocrity but if you're not then it needs to actually be good.It's not a game for people who don't like RPGs. It's a game for people who don't absolutely love RPGs. There's a difference.
What's a good hot tea for the "I hate tea but I love that powdered shit they sell at Shop Rite" crowd?
>>738180181No, it's because eminem is white, so it's not OK to like him while disliking black people music
>>738180712JRPGs are based on western borne DnD, so liking JRPGs but not DnD makes you racist against whites?The Anime aesthetic is based on early cutesy Disney movies like Bambi and so on. Most Japanese pop culture is a refinement, if not outright copying of Western pop culture anyway...
>>738180651The person he is quoting not only dislikes the average RPGs but also dislikes video games in general.
For me? It's >i hate niggers, but i like Outkast
>>738180869Saying a video game is a stupid waste of time doesn't mean you dislike video games.I think video games are a stupid waste of time. I still play the shit out of them.
ff7 remake had zero cringe except the honeybee dance but even then i found that funny.rebirth holy fuck that dogshit is every worst part of anime in action, theres a reason why every webm about why the trilogy sucks is from rebirth
>>738179986For RPGs? Probably Persona 5.
Reminder that the faggot in op's pic has barely touched any jrpgs that aren't xenoshit and hasn't played any WRPGs other than E33. His "review" also opens with him crying for multiple paragraphs about people not playing JRPGs kek.>This is the "taste" of someone who seethes over E33
>>738180651I can't imagine being a jrpg fan and the seethe around e33 further proves how trash the whole genre is. Like any millennial that played a lot of games and not just ball and gun games as a kid I played and enjoyed a lot of jrpgs. I think my favorite from a gameplay standpoint was ff4 ds remake because it actually had somewhat interesting mechanics. P4 and smt 3 were ok, but I quickly got bored of atlus same game syndrome. Once you understand their system it ceases to be interesting and actually has less going on under the hood than pokemon. Tapped out on pokemon at gen 4 for similar reasons because of the sameyness.All of my interest in turn based games (primarily aw and fe) from childhood got replaced by indie roguelike strategy games. I think adult jrpg fans just never grew up and never sought more challenging scenarios and systems.The average player is absolute trash at strategy games. I can't believe at launch shit like wyldfrost was getting review bombed for being too difficult. It was a 100% winrate game at the highest available difficulty ffs. I don't even primarily play turn based games, my main games are 3rd person action games with a sprinkling of boomer shooters, colony sims, puzzle games, etc.I also read a lot as a kid so story and characters never did much for me in video games growing up. I played for the gameplay because the stories were middling at best. Fun to experience the worlds and take in cool art, but I almost never got attached to characters. P4 stands out as an exception there from what I remember. Twewy too, although the story took a huge backseat to the gameplay, music, and aesthetic.But all of this ramble to point out that my irl friends that are die hard jrpg fans all fucking love e33. So it really does beg the question just what level of sperg are we dealing with that stans jrpgs and hates e33? I haven't found a real one in the wild yet, they only exist online.
>>738181143>why does it always come back to dmcSonic being in there was expected but there needs to be a serious study done on dmc retards.>sonic>dmc>undertale/drThese are my proposed dark triad of franchises for immediate identification of the worst opinions imaginable on games
>>738179685nobody cares you retarded turd
>>738179902seethe looneytroon you retarded turd
>IMG_6636.pngmobiletranny>twitter screencapnovidya tranny
>>738181501DMCucks have an almost 100% chance of being either pretentious pseudo intellectuals, troons, or both in the case of the faggot in OP's screenshot.
>>738179685>XB2Fag criticizing anythingOh lordy.
>I wrote up a piece on BackloggdGenuinely the most troon coded sentence I've ever fucking read. Surprised xhe still goes by Cameron, I'd have thought xhey'd resent their "dead name".
>lazy concept art bgs with no cohesive design and partly destroyed buildings and random shit everywhere suspended in the sky because "um its not real so">zero character development, gustave has a promising start with backstory, motivation, and setup but gets killed off and replaced by a pathetic self insert with cringe one liners, lune gets 10 seconds of ffx's farplane scene, sciel is reduced to camp dialogue prompts, verso's family plot is bland "escapism bad" never played FFTA but it probably did it better>comically lazy macguffins that basically mock the player like esquie's orbs>plot seems ripped off of ffx's original plot (titled 17 where people mysteriously die at 17)>painting world idea is just a way less interesting zanarkand or pan's labyrinth/alice in wonderland>if you want to ask what the gameplay mechanics are just think "what if we did dark souls mechanics" and you'll get the parrying and dodging, chroma flasks, weapon and stat scaling, and flag bonfiresslop/10
>>738179685>weebsAnon, that's a NintoddIers.
>>738179685>E33 hate comes from the one group that can't play they gameWell well well.
>>738179685>video games are stupid and for idiots but i love this moviegameAre you sure that spending the last few months spamming this same thread like an idiotic monkiman while making E33 players look like tourists who despise video games was a good idea?
>>738179685>i's litterally in response to someone who hates video games>/v/brown tries to make it about anime
>retarded transniggers ITT once again proving nu-/v/ is filled with nothing but nufags who reply to twitter screencap bait for the gorillionth time.sasuga nu-/v/
>>738179685not all weebs, just a subgroup of weebs starving for attention. you see these types all over /v/, /tv/, /a/, /pol/. they act like stoic outsiders who don't care about normalfags yet they seethe this much whenever people enjoy something, because they have convinced themselves it's their media. it's a strange hipster mindset mixed with an inferiority complex
>>738183672This. Tendies have been trying to force the E33 vs Japan shit since release day.
i wonder if the guy in the OP knows there's some anon who's been so obsessed with him for months that he reposts the same threads and replies weekly
>>738183808kek, what a photo
E33 fills the void FF has left since FFX. It's pretty much a Final Fantasy game in everything but name and aesthetics. I hope its success is a huge wake up call to SE and they make FF17 turn based.Dragon Quest still mogs it however.
I had never heard of E33 up untill its actual point if release and still have 0 clue what the premise even is. The entire game feels like a psy-op, especially the fact that it got glazed so hard at the awards. Nothing looked special or even noteworthy about it.
>>738181550seethe looneytroonKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>738182515I'm not even going to bother with all of that. The world is novel because it is the creation of a child. That's a beautiful stroke of world building.Esquie's "mcguffins" are rocks because it is a french culture reference. There was a famous french architect named pierre esquie. Pierre means rock in french.
>>738184261Unlike tlou2 which also earned a shit ton of awards e33 had real world traces of success. Tlou2 had multiple irl pics of bargain bins full of $5 copies because of Sony reporting shipped copies as sales. E33's soundtrack alone charted and stayed top of the charts for months.
>>738179685posted it again
>>738179685because the hate campaign is the actual astroturf.
>>738179685E33 was dogshit and its fans are mentally ill
>>738179685E33 fans don't actually exist. There are just trolls and the people who argue with them.
>>738179685Idk but the average jrpg unironically has better writing than the midwit soap opera slop in this game. This was some of the most painfully dull shit I've ever experienced in a game
>>738180181the point is that it's fine to like things but don't go spewing bullshit like "It's the best [thing] out there when you have no proper experience and knowledge of [thing]
>>738183719thisall of them are coming from reddit and resetera (echochambers that love e33)
>E33fags continue to prove Cameron's point half a fucking year later
Can somebody explain why this game where every single black person dies at the beginning, which is about love and family and saving civilization vs saving family, with a 16, year old redhead in skintight uniform, is getting unnatural amount of hate? Can somebody explain? You brownoids don't cry about any other game that long. Are you perhaps mad that there isn't any interracial relationship because a old white man literally nuked all niggers from existence lol?
>E33faggots think they can make fun of any fanbase for being overly sensitive like they weren't seething over Famitsu giving the one rpg they've played a 36/40
>>738187402Who the fuck cares about review scores, yet alone japanese ones? Fucking weebs.
>>738188107E33 fans, clearly do, since they were so angry about Famitsu not giving it a perfect score.>Inb4 "TH-THAT DOESN'T COUNT, WHAT ABOUT [other game]
Everyone should be banned ITT for replying to twitterbait and being a massive newfaggot.
>>738179685>parries your criticism and counters with 100000 damageWhat now idiot
I physically cringe at the very obvious paid eurocrat shilling of e33 that goes like "japanese games are done! french rpgs will now dominate"
>>738188551you clicked the wrong parry button. the argument was gradient.
>>738181143>burnout>ridge racer He's alright in my book
>>738179685It's normal to hate rap but like eminem. Rap is trash, but he makes it passably bearable.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/8uQhePU8oJ4EU7dSYnqC2A/
>>738179685>So incensed that people like an RPG that isn't bogged down by the generic gameplay and writing tropes>exp33>not generic gameplay or writing tropeslolLMAO
>>738189567>EminemThis but Japanese music. It'll be a normal pop/rock/edm song with some rap inserts and it's not that bad. Otherwise, only turdworld niggers love rap/hip-hop and metal.
>i hate metal but man metallica's black album is the best metal album of all time!
>>738179685I like RPGs and I’d like to try E33 at some point, but seeing people with open contempt for the genre praising it doesn’t make me wanna play it more
>>738179685>first game i played where i look forward to the cutscenes So he still hates games then?
>>738191036I think the point is normally he dreads watching cutscenes instead of getting to actually play the game.And he's right. It's pretty normal these days for a game to have many hours of cutscenes and glorified cutscenes. They are nowhere near as efficient with storytelling as films are. It's really starts to get very tedious.
>>738181348>stanWay to waste all those thought out words
It's a racial thing. Nonwhites are genetically incapable of understanding E33's themes, therefore they hate it. Every time you see an E33 seethe post, just know there's a 95% chance the person behind it is a Chang, Ramesh, or Muhammad and there's a 100% chance they're lactose intolerant. You'll see them prop up boring fucking slogs like Metaphor or Persona because they just can't get into E33.
>>738191589ah yes, its 2deep4u , the low effort asset shop flips are just .. too profound to understand!
>>738179685E33 will NEVER be a real JRPG
>>738179986>I hate rap but like the most well known and influential rapper of all timeDefinitely FF7
>>738179685Because Japanese storytelling is bottom of the barrel trash.Their entire gaming industry knows only the following storytelling devices:>Ripping off Western media>Retelling the same handful of Shinto/Buddhist myths>Slice of life>Misery porn mixed in with pseudo-philosophy>X is a cycle>Literally just a game about JapanThat's it. There has never been anything else.
>E33tards bending over backwards to defend this dogshit takeAbsolutely unreal. You people don't play games.
>>738192281>Weebtards bending over backwards to side with someone with this dogshit taste >>738181143
Superiority breeds envy.
>>738179685Japanophiles have become a cult that have taken to hating their own countries and thinking Japan is the promised landit's really demented and pathetic, I'm not sure what caused because weebs weren't like that back in the 00s, they just liked anime
>>738193661Fucking JAPANESE didn't use to have this jingoistic, unblemished view of their own country.Read manga about Japan from the 90s - they really pulled no punches in showing how hypocritical, superficial and alienating/unpleasant their society was. There's a reason they were so enamoured with the US (freedom to live their lives how they see fit) or Europe (cultures that aren't bogged down by the same crab in a bucket mentality).
>>738179902>>738180049>>738181143>>738186051>>738191589>>738192162>>738193661>>738193796E33 fags have to be the most pretentious fags ever.The story for this game isn't even good. The first 2 acts are a generic save the world plotline, while the final act is a failed allegory for escapism.The escapism is bad message doesn't work because lumiere is basically a real dimension with real thinking people. At best you could argue the game keeps it ambiguous, but clearly it implies that the people of lumiere are real.Not to mention that using the paintings is objectively beneficial due to time dilation. You can use them to effectively extend your life.Either way, lumiere doesn't work as an escapism allegory and has no grounding in reality.The ending is also a bit of an artificial dichotomy created for the sake of melodrama.The gameplay of the game is also highly derivativeAll in all, you fags are retards impressed by shallow aestheticsThe story is not mature, and it's nowhere near a 10
>>738192162Western fantasy RPGs are always ripping off Tolkien, though. Also e33 didn't have a good story anyways. The final dilemma is artificial melodrama and the game isn't good at delivering it's themes.
>>738194329>Western fantasy RPGs are always ripping off Tolkien, though.>Rogue Trader>The Elder Scrolls Series (5 games)>The Witcher Series (3 games)>Tyranny>Pentiment>Expedition Series (3 games)>Age of Decadence>Planescape: Torment>Disco Elysium>Arcanum>Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines>Expedition 33That's just off the top of my head. You're a retard.
>>738193389>guy who plays games vs guy who plays zero gamesThe choice is clear
>>738194480>>Rogue TraderWarhammer 40k isn't fantasy. It's more so sci-fi with some magic thrown in. >The Elder Scrolls Series (5 games)>The Witcher Series (3 games)>Tyranny>Planescape: Torment>ArcanumThese all have Tolkien elements, like stereotypical fantasy races such as elves, orcs, dragons, etc. >Age of Decadence>PentimentThese are more so medieval games with very low magic. Either way AOD did not seem particularly unique setting wise. Pentiment is a VN. >Expedition 33JRPG in spirit. The only reason it has a unique aesthetic / setting. If it wasnt made by a weeb it would be typical Western slop. Western games tend to have incredibly uninteresting fantasy settings, and generally very weak plots that have never engaged me. You very rarely find things that are truly imaginative or fantastical.
>>738180049You don't have to like everything, but JRPGs have existed for decades and the same people that called it trash started acting like the french one that happened to not look like anime was a gaming revolution
>>738194814>Warhammer 40k isn't fantasyActually I take that back. Its Science fantasy. But it's just one example, and it's based on a preexisting ip.
>>738194814>Warhammer 40k isn't fantasy. It's more so sci-fi with some magic thrown in.It's the quintessential science fantasy. But thanks for reminding me, I also forgot to throw in KOTOR (2 games + MMORPG), which also is one. An actual science fiction RPG is the Mass Effect series or Colony Ship or the Fallout series.>These all have Tolkien elements, like stereotypical fantasy races such as elves, orcs, dragons, etc.Tolkien invented neither elves nor orcs nor dragons.>>738194814>These are more so medieval games with very low magic.It's called low fantasy.You're still a retard, and your arguments are getting worse.
>>738191849Both those game mog Xenoslop btw
>>738195070>Tolkien invented neither elves nor orcs nor dragonsBut he popularized them. When I say Tolkien elements, I mean generic fantasy elements like orcs, dragons, elves, medieval European aesthetic, etc. >WH 40k>Star warsBoth of these are not game original, they are based on preexisting IPs. The fact that these are the only examples you have proves my point that Western games tend to be generic unless they copy someone else. >It's called low fantasy.Yeah, but AOD want particularly original either way. I will repeat what I said previouslyWestern games tend to have incredibly uninteresting fantasy settings, and generally very weak plots that have never engaged me.You very rarely find things that are truly imaginative or fantastical.
>>738195384>But he popularized them.No he didn't. Dragons are literally the most often used fantasy creature in existence. Elves have been used by other authors since the Renaissance. And his orcs have literally nothing in common with either 40K ones or the ones from Arcanum.You keep being an idiot.
>>738195535>No he didn'tHe clearly did. His books were some of the most influential. They inspired dnd. Also, my point still stands. Western games are samey slop with orcs elves and dragons over and over. And of course let's not forget the medieval Europe backdrop. You are the retard, which is why you enjoy this samey drivel.
>>738179685THIS SHIT DID NOT DESERVE BEST RPG. KCD2 CAME OUT THAT SAME YEAR.
>>738195702>He clearly did.Right, I'm sure the tale of St. George was heavily inspired by Tolkien, as well. Or One Thousand and One Nights stories, multiple of which contain dragons. Or the entirety of Medieval heraldry. Or Chinese and Japanese mythology.You are such an illiterate moron it's becoming embarassing.
>>738179685Based take Plebbit 33 is overrated and only liked for normies who don't like real J kino
>>738179685>an RPG that isn't bogged down by the generic gameplay and writing tropes, overly long run time and boring gameplay loopBut E33 has generic gameplay, the gameplay loop is boring, it overstays the playtime by long mile and the story is just generic grief/depression porn every artsy western game does.
>>738195756No way fag
>>738195947You are failing to address my main point. Western fantasy rpgs are samey slop with elves, orcs, dragons, and medieval settings. Over and over.
>>738181143>Has good taste in vidya>Is right about E33 fans huffing their own fartsAre we supposed to hate this guy just because he's kinda pretentious? Seems like he'd be better to hang with than the average E33fag tbdesu
>>738196273>You are failing to address my main point.I already rebuked you, but per typical weeb retardation, you choose not to understand and repeat the same points.
>>738196068There's nothing based about her take, she's bitching about racism, doesn't get more reddit than that.
>>738196092yeah the plot is clearly just vibed out as they wrote it like "yo what if we killed the main character like now wouldnt that be epic as fuck?" there is no artistic intent behind the melodrama, no payoff.
>>738196273yea, because jrpgs are soooo orignial...
>>738196490Nah, you didn't. Western fantasy RPGs are samey slop.
>>738179685Based Pyra poster. E33sisters NEVER recovered from this
>>738181348>I think adult jrpg fans just never grew up and never sought more challenging scenarios and systems.This is a retarded take. People in general are retarded no matter what they do.
>>738196514>herIt's a tranny.
>>738179685The reason JRPGs were labelled JRPGs in the first, place, was that it was recognized how they are copies of western RPGs, but with a Japanese flavor. If you really think about it, Weebs are the "I hate rap, but I love Eminem" crowd. only replace eminem with an Asian rapper. Or maybe someone who isn't a rapper, but part of the rap world, like Nujabes.
>>738196560The popular ones are in terms of setting/concept>Persona 5>Nier automata>Xenoblade 2>SMT>Nioh 2>E33
>>738196514She's calling out tourists and filthy casuls
Yeah bro, it's a great idea to listen to video game opinions from someone whose pinned tweet is a grid post where you put two of the same thing.
>>738196764name a wrpg you have played from 1987 or shut up forever.
>>738179685Ai slop game with middle aged woman writing.
>>738180049>It's perfectly normal to think bad games are bad but good games are good and that genres have both bad and good entries.there's a big difference between this and thinking literally everything in a genre is bad except for one game
>>738196982You're credential seeking, because you can't disprove my claim with facts. But this is an anonymous image board. I can lie and say I played anything at anytime. As can you. So you have to try harder than that.
>>738196764JRPGs aren't 'copies of western RPGs', WRPGs emphasize player choice, staying faithful to their pen-and-paper origin, whereas JRPGs focus more on narrative.
>>738197831Oh my god, you're being too literal. Shut up.
It's true E33 is the JRPG for people who hate real JRPGs made by actual Japanese people
>>738197929>says something retarded>called out>"oh my god shut up"faggot
It's just a game for retarded normies. Only popular because it tries it's hardest to appeal to women. It has the same style of writing as every dogshit women's novel. None of the characters actually do anything that makes sense or act in their own interests. They only do what will maximize the melodrama. The gay old dad could have stopped the entire plot when he killed the first guy but he just decides to only stop him and let everyone else just walk away.
>>738197239no I'm asking you to list all those great western RPGs you have played that released the same year as final fantasy 1 on nes. go on ahead this should be an extremely simple task after you made your claim in >>738196764
>>738198324More like>Makes argument>Armchair cop: "do you have a license to make that argument">Tell the pig to fuck off>He gets mad and calls me a faggot.
>>738200078i have never seen somebody put this much effort into being retarded before.
>>738181143e33troons can't stop raping themselves and it's beautiful
>>738200929>Calling anyone a troon when the person you're defending has "taste" this garbage
>>738184589>I don't have to explain plot elements because baguette referenceyeah that tracks with all the other excuses for laziness
